BFFs with Dave Portnoy, Josh Richards, and Brianna Chickenfry - ELLIE ZEILER IS THE NEXT BIG INFLUENCER MEGASTAR — BFFs EP. 64

Episode Date: February 3, 2022

Ellie Zeiler joins the pod to talk about her rise on TikTok, her future plans, and people saying she only got famous for looking like Charli D’Amelio. We rank TikTokkers by their fashion. Support Our Sponsors: Birddogs: Go to https://www.birddogs.com and use promo code BFF Would: Shop now at https://www.getwould.comYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/bffspod

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So big news in the baby world. Rihanna and ASAP Rocky. Months of speculations. They are expecting their first child. Rihanna took a picture with him. And Rihanna just makes everything look good. She still looks hot, even though her jeans are way too long. She just always looks

great i was about to say that it looks like those got to be some dirty it looks like she has no shoes on yeah i still like her look though oh yeah the coat the coat with the one button up kind of rocking it this is everybody's looking baby in the world yeah so i mean rihanna's super hot asap rocky he's he's hot the hottest guy to exist yeah oh well that's pretty strong words no a lot of people would agree asap rocky is the hottest man hottest who did he date before her i don't even know it's really just always been him and rihanna well Well, that everyone talks about. Yeah, right. But Rihanna has been linked to a bunch of people.

Regardless, that's strong. Brie hottest man who ever lived. Okay. Jenner. He was with Kendall Jenner before. Okay. So he's swinging for the fences. Good for him.

I guess that's what happens when you're the hottest man who ever lived. Kendall, Kylie, Chanel, Iman, Rita, or wait, what? Wait, wait, wait wait wait and do it wait kylie that can't be right no he was definitely he was linked to kendall but he was never like actually actually linked to kylie they were like great seen at the same time i was reading i was just reading the the list it didn't a bulb didn't go off like that he dated both? No chance. They do crazy shit. I don't know. Not that crazy. Addison Ray's ex and Bryce Hall's ex hang out.

Addison and Bryce's exes before they dated fame are now hanging out with their current boyfriend and girlfriend. Bryce's ex is the blonde girl and Addison's ex is the boy on the right. It's taking me a second to digest what they're saying here. Addison. I think it's taking me a second to digest what they're saying here addison i think it's just addison's old ex and then bryce hall's old ex not like addison is right you know what i mean it's

like they're two exes before they dated each other or together and hanging out and and which one is Addison's ex is? The guy on the right. And who's Bryce's ex? The blonde girl in the picture. She's pretty. How did they end up together, though? This doesn't make sense to me. So I actually heard it was like, because I saw her this weekend. And I brought it up to her.

I was like, oh, I saw you were with Bryce's., I brought it up to her. I was like, Oh, I saw, I saw you were with, uh, I saw you were with Bryce's and you were with Addison's ex. I was like, you guys trying to stir a little cloud up, you know, do a little cloud farming, get a post going. But apparently she's dating one of his friends and it's just like a big coincidence thing. Don't know if I can believe that, but maybe. Did you say you saw Addison? No, no, no, no. I saw L, who's Bryce's ex.

You saw Bryce's... She's a nobody, right? I don't mean that disrespectfully, but she's not in the social media world, right? No, she's not like a social media girl. So how'd you see her? Because she just lives in LA. Or was in in la at least

so the whole thing's confusing there's too many in the fucking title i don't know what whose ex is whose where's bryce from bryce is from maryland okay so but this is his ex from la yes

yes so all right. So then it wasn't like, as long as Bryce has been in LA, he's been, I thought we were talking like before they were famous type exes. No, I think, oh, the only one for Addison. Yeah, it's her. That makes a lot more sense why that girl. I'm like, oh, she's really pretty. It's like, okay, that makes sense.

Speaking of Bryce Hall, Bryce Hall, Bryce Hall roast finally may be happening. Deaf Noodles reports. Well, Deaf's really pretty. It's like, okay, that makes sense. Speaking of Bryce Hall, roast Bryce Hall. Bryce Hall roast finally may be happening. Deaf Noodles reports. Well, Deaf Noodles reported it. Deaf Noodles reports Bryce Hall is set to be roasted, hosted by Jason Nash with Josh Tana, Jeff Wittek, Jose Canseco, and more, Jose. I mean, he's an easy guy to roast. Wittek's funny.

Tana, I assume, would be good. Oh, wait, you're on there, Josh. Yeah, I am. I am on there. So is this official? Yeah, it's going to happen. Where? You know what?

That's a good fucking question, Dave. I have no idea where it's happening, but I know that it is happening because I got to write up some disses on this guy. question, Dave. I have no idea where it's happening, but I know that it is happening because I got to write up some disses on this guy. How hard are you going to go? I feel like you got to go balls to the wall. You should have Dave ghostwrite for you. Give you a couple.

They asked Dave, but he ghosted. Really? What are you talking about? Well, you might not have seen it. That's probably the I definitely didn't know. I was that that's breaking news to me that I was asked. Would you do that, Dave? I'd have to look at my calendar and everything, but yeah, I, I,

I would be a good roast guy. I think, I mean, I feel like for the roast, you just, you, you go as hard as you can because it's all about laughing at yourself. Right. So it's like you kind of go to the full extent. And I feel like Bryce Hall could also be kind of like a Michael Scott situation. I don't know if you ever saw the Michael Scott roast. And then Michael Scott got like really upset.

He just goes upstairs and cries. Yeah. And then he roasts everybody else. I think it could be something like that. Bryce might get a little offensive, defensive. Jake Paul releases Dana White distract. Jake Paul releases distract us and Dana White

because he's trapping fighters with no healthcare, little money. I talked about this before. It was very well done. It's Jake Paul being Jake Paul. I feel like I like Dana. I like both these guys. They're just different people.

I feel like anytime Dana White engages, he loses. It's just that's what Jake Paul wants. Right, and you're giving Jake kind of like the validity. You know what I'm saying? You're making this a bigger deal than it is, really. Did Dana White respond to this latest one? Oh, yeah. I mean, he always responds and now

dana white's becoming like obviously not becoming he is a personality in his own right but jake paul is one of the best to ever do it in this realm this he's in his playground doing shit like this so it's hard to compete with that yeah that's very true kim k second sex tape kanye west said in a recent interview while kim was preparing for her snl show kanye flew from new york to la to take a late laptop from ray j containing a sex second sex date between kim and ray j and returned to nyc to watch the snl show where he had to watch kim and pete kiss in front of him kanye's interview um what does he say in the interview kim's lawyer by the way denied this claim ray j says he wants SNL show where he had to watch Kim and Pete kiss in front of him. Kanye's interview. What does he say in the interview?

Kim's lawyer, by the way, denied this claim. Ray J says he wants to be left out of it. He has kids. Let's watch the interview. I don't know if anything interesting was said. You know, how are you going to bring me to SNL and kiss the dude you dated right in front of me? And everybody's like, oh, that's that's cool. After I went and went and got the laptop from

ray j myself that night right and then got on a red i met this man at the airport then got on a red eye came back delivered it to her at 8 a.m in the morning and then i gave it to her and she cried when she saw it you know why she cried when she's not seeing a laptop because it represents how much she's been used it represents how much people didn't love her and they just saw her as a commodity a second sex tape i don't know i mean don't you think it would have already been out ray j was kind of like irrelevant don't you think you would have dropped it that's a good point. But why? Why is Connie even getting it?

Why? Why is Connie collect? Is he saying it like he's the hero? Like I recovered the. Yeah, he went and got the second sex tape and brought it back to her. And she was like crying. Thank God. But why?

There's definitely multiple sex tapes. Like you just don't cut that type of sex tape and never have made sex tapes. Why it would come out now, who knows? But as somebody who's unfortunately had to deal with it, like, you never know. True. You don't know why, when, where.

The whole thing's kind of weird. But why would Kanye? I can't tell. Every episode we talk about this we can't tell what kanye kanye is saying pete davidson has aids he's rescuing fucking uh laptops he's making out with his girlfriend then he's getting mad about the other he's just all over the place i think he's in his feelings this and pete in his songs yeah it's crazy it is crazy how do you think his new girlfriend like if she has real feelings she can't like any of this i think she kind of beats it up i'm gonna be honest i think

she loves it him doing that for kim like clearly means he's still in love with her so that would suck for the new girlfriend but she's like she's kind of like making the drama bigger, no? Like, isn't she kind of in half the stuff that he's posting about? Yeah, yeah, she is. There's some people who can't turn the cloak machine off. Yeah, no, they can't. Guys, by the way, Ellie's here. Okay, perfect. So we can get back to the Kanye, Pete Davidson stuff later

because it's not a funny statement at all. But the reports that Kanye West is saying Pete Davis is out of control. It's funny, but not funny. You know what I'm saying? It's like, come on. But it is funny. It's so out of pocket that it's funny. Who's going to get

a group of Kanye lookalikes just to like ambush Pete Davis? It's funny. Like, imagine Kanye just tapping Who's going to get a group of Kanye lookalikes just to like ambush Pete Davidson? It's funny. Like, imagine Kanye just tapping you on the shoulder. Be like, yo, and there's 50 of them. You know that Pete Davidson probably thinks it's funny, too. Yeah, he's pretty self-deprecating. So for sure.

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like you're a good golfer is that what that means I never know why they put that on the sheet like a golfer to me or like you're a good golfer is that what that means i never know why they put that on the sheet because it's not like i was like dustin johnson but i was like a competitive golfer like that's what i would do with my time you know like high school yeah like high school golf and like competitive golf and what does that mean what's your so what's your handicap uh good question good question that is a great question and that is what i don't know anymore because i not necessarily stopped but like what was it at the peak of your golf career what was at the peak of my golf career i was shooting like 80s but i didn't so that's really good little known fact a day portnoy fact my mother was the first varsity male coach in the state of massachusetts she was the high school golf

wow other male coach yeah she coached the male varsity golf team oh yeah yeah yeah yeah that just came out a little she didn't become a dude and then start teaching did i not say that right it sounded like she was the first male coach. Yeah. No, no, no. She's definitely a female, but took off seriously. All right. So the rise to fame and obviously, first of all, do you guys know each other?

Is the first time you met Josh? Kind of. Kind of. Yeah. Yeah. Nice to meet you as well. Okay. I'm always curious.

So you got your start because people are saying you were Charlie lookalike. Is that basically right? That is. Yeah, that's right. And now as it's continued, you've become well-known. Is that becoming a thing you're trying to get away with or do you embrace it? Seems like a lot of people chirp you for it now.

No, actually, I think that it's kind of considered like old news where I think in the past, they would chirp me for it 24 seven. And now it's kind of like, get over it, move on, things like that. So not anymore.

So break it down for me though, is the way it happened. She commented on something to be like, wait a minute, this girl looks exactly like me. And then bang all of a sudden, like you wake up and you're kind of a star. Is that the chain of events?

Not necessarily. Okay. So how I kind of started the started the start story that I tell everyone, which is so before I, so I grew up in a very competitive high school, competitive environment. And so the social media and being creative was very something, it was something that like wasn't embraced. And so I never got on social media. It was always something that I never, not necessarily never had, because I did really like YouTube. I loved, loved, loved YouTube.

But I just wasn't on TikTok until two weeks into quarantine. My thing's just shut. Is that a thing? Can you still hear? You can hear fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

No, no. No, it's okay. Anyway, two weeks into quarantine, when we all had time on our hands, I decided to post my first TikTok. I had like rarely, rarely ever been on TikTok before, so I didn't even know kind of what the environment and the whole TikTok realm was. But I posted that TikTok, I think overnight, it got like 3 million that I posted that TikTok. I think overnight it got like three million views, my first TikTok.

And then probably a week I had a million followers. And that is that's how it all started. Started. Yeah. So did you get the three million views because people are saying you look like Charlie, right? Yes. Got it. because people are saying you look like Charlie, right?

Yes. Got it. And now, so if you weren't into it and then you blow up, how quickly did you decide, all right, I'm going to go after this because I have this opportunity? Pretty instantly. We're like, I think at the beginning I was like hit, hit with hate. And since I was so competitive, I'm like,

I'm not letting anyone tell me that I can quit. And so I just continued to do it. I remember specifically there was a night where I was having a breakdown, which sat me down and he was like, Ellie, some people, if they're lucky, get this one opportunity handed to them just like this, like handed to them. And it's really going to be up to you if you're going to quit and if you're going to listen to these people and continue doing what you were doing before, or if you're going to work as hard as you've ever worked before and show people kind of what you're made of and continue. So I chose the second option, which I think was the better one. Good dad move. Good dad move. Yeah. Motivational speech from dad. They always work. How old were you? Because you're still super young. So how old were you right when you blew up? I was 16 and then I'll be 18 next month. Was it hard blowing up and then being like 16?

What are you, a freshman, sophomore in high school? Yeah, I was a sophomore. I feel like I was such a baby and looking back, it was like I just didn't think, I didn't know about so much. And social media makes you grow up so, so, so quickly. And so to look back, it was like just this little baby getting like punched every day by all of these people on the internet. Kind of like Josh. Josh grew up very young too.

Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say, I can relate to that. Like the high school part of blowing up is always tough too, because then you don't get, just get it when you go home and it's like in the comments, you kind of just fucking ignore that, but you also get it in the school. it when you go home and it's like in the comments, you kind of just fucking ignore that. But you also get it in the school. Yeah. I had such a rough time in high school, even before social media, because as I did say, I started in quarantine. And so it's really sad to think, but I haven't been back to a regular school since I just actually just graduated high school. Thank you very much. What do you mean you had a hard time in high school before? Like why? I moved a lot, which a lot of people don't know about.

But I went to like three different high schools, four middle schools. And so girls. Wait, how many? Let's see. I moved high schools three times, technically four. And then middle school is four times. You know what? So you got mean girl, because if you're going into that's like the oldest high school girls don't

want like an attractive new girl coming to their high school. That's a problem. Competition. They don't want no competition at all. The oldest trick in the book. I know it was, it was really hard, but I also think I'm such a believer in a field like this,

but like that everything happens for a reason. And so like, I think that I was really meant to do what I meant to do, because I'm sure Josh can attest to this and both of you guys that like, it doesn't take like wimpy people to do what we do every day. And so to kind of grow up with that, like chip on my shoulder of like, not everyone's that nice to you. I think it really carried through on social media. I respect how you're talking. Like if you didn't know like what was going on, you'd think you're like a grizzled, like 45, like my, like you're, we're talking like back when I was a kid, it's like from 16 to 18,

you're still super young. Now the way you're talking makes me think this is not necessarily true, but it says your future plans, you still want to go to college and become a real estate agent? Or are you like, is that wrong? Well, technically. Okay. So nice job, Kareem. I'm reading facts that I know are wrong. It should be. It says it right on the page.

It says Ellie has said, despite being an influencer, it is her dream to go to college at NYU for real estate. So wow. That is like completely. Okay. I guess. Nice job, Kareem. Devin's looking at me like I have receipts, like she's going to pull something. Yeah, like she's going to pull up something when I was like 10 years old, like I want to go and be a real estate agent.

No, but okay. I guess we'll go through that each. I did really my whole life want to go to NYU. My dream is to still be in New York at some point in my life. I also wanted to be a movie trailer editor, not a real estate agent. On that side, I did a movie trailer editor. Yeah, it was just it was what a weird thing to be like. That's what I want to do.

Right. OK, I was really harshly bullied in high school because i always had some weird because of that you wanted to be a movie trailer editor people were like hey fuck you okay to be honest i watched this movie when i was younger of this woman like being a movie trailer editor and she was just you watched a movie wait wait wait with cameron with cameron diaz uh i think i know the movie you're talking about. Home Again. It was Home Again where they switch.

Yes, yes. It was with Cameron Diaz, yeah. Yes, and didn't she have the most amazing house? Yeah, and Kate Winslet, she was balling out, yeah. So I could see where he got that, but I don't know if that's real life. But I'm not going to, it is kind of a sick thing. Movie trailers are awesome,

but I didn't even know that thing, that I guess it's a job. But anyway, sorry. I always wanted to be the kid to like have kind of know what i was doing and like have my life figured out so like although i didn't necessarily want to i was like i'm gonna tell people i do so then they're like okay she's good um the real estate side i did i am in real estate i just probably a few months ago bought my first real estate investment, which is residential real estate. And I'm in the process of flipping that and having people come in and rent that. And then college, I did just apply to all of my colleges, but I'm

waiting till March to hear all of them. But I am still going to go. This show at times makes I feel like people listen, feel so dumb. Like 18, you bought real estate, you're flipping it. It's like, OK, so don't you like your parents help with that? Are you like you did this all yourself? No, I think that, well, my dad is just the hero in all of these situations. But my dad is in real estate. He is in charge of not letting me be stupid with my financials. And so he was like, and plus, I always knew that I wanted to do it.

I know my dream is to have by the end of the year, seven streams of passive income coming in. And so that was just one of them that I really wanted to do. But in that scenario, I bought this house on the beach in San Diego. We're flipping it from one place into five places. And yeah, he's helping me with that, which is great. I'm so lucky that I have that experience. Some of these statements, I don't mean to keep saying, but seven passive, what did you say? Seven passive streams of income? Yes. Or seven streams of income in general by the end of the year is my goal. I've got something I need to share. I got to back my girl up Devin here for a second.

This is a quote from an article. It says, what are your future goals? My dream school is New York university. I'm interested in having a career in the field of real estate when I grow up. As of now, I may be an influencer, but I plan on continuing with my scholarly studies. That was in 2020. Okay, but that doesn't mean like go to NYU. Okay, fine. I give it to you. Yeah, you know what? You guys, you guys do the research.

But it also is like that's from two years ago. So, I mean, that's like a year and a half, but still that's due diligence from Devin there. Yeah, we're good to defend it thanks so i don't even know i'm almost afraid to ask this i'm seeing you doing a bunch of things seven passive forms of income so you've given us real estate modeling is that one no i know i don't model but thank you that nice. What is this? Ellie has partnered with makeup brands in the past, like Lancome. Oh, that's like my brand deal. So basically, at the beginning of doing social media, I was doing kind of what we all call like one-off deals, where it's in the sense that like a company pays you to promote their products, and then you continue doing that. My business strategy kind of changed this past year

where instead of having one-off deals, I really wanted to have long-term partnerships with people. And so Lancome, for example, is like my makeup kind of category. And so Lancome and I have like a long-term deal where I promote their products and I love their products as well as Levi's is like my apparel category and things

like that. But that's like social media deals, not modeling. I feel like, yeah, I guess I just saw in the picture, it looks like a modeling picture with Lancome under it. So I was like, oh, she's modeling. And he has, yeah, he has. So what is, what, what are you most interested in then? Like what, with all these different things you got going on, what are you most passionate about? I'm passionate about really, not to be like this, but like all of it where it's kind of, I'm going to college to study business with a minor in social justice. And so I really want to be that person on the internet that kind of shares

factual information and someone that's educated and can um share what they believe in in social justice terms as well um but also kind of doing all of it i really want to by the end of the year have like dive into hosting shows i think that that's a passion of mine um i'm moving to LA next week, which is crazy, but I'm starting that. Who are you going to live with? Graduating. I'm living by myself. I'm living. Like no friends, nothing?

No friends, nothing. I think I'm like, yeah. Okay. Between though, I heard Dave, Mr. Courtney, right? Yeah. Close enough. Yeah. Yeah. Is that how you say Courtney, right? Yeah. Is that how you say your last name? No, it's close out.

Portnoy. And mine's Tyler. So we switched. Anyway, I heard you say that like homeschooled kids are weird. Yeah, I did. It's true. I've been homeschooled for the past like two, well, like online school for the past two years. I believe it.

I'm like not. thank you so much. So now I'm like not used to having friends. You seem the opposite. I mean, like what, you seem like somebody and Josh is part of the sway house would be like, I hate those guys. Wow. Whoa.

That was beautiful. Come on. Headless. You don't think so? If you asked like, thank you. For sure. It just doesn't seem like you guys are on the same page in life. Like these guys are taking shirtless videos dancing and you're like wildly intellectual. I'm buying

a house, six houses, making five more properties. Josh has passive income. What are you guys talk about i got my fucking business on the lock well josh is one of the best but i'm saying you drink fucking let's run through it dave absolutely but you wouldn't know that you wouldn't know that i'm saying if you just overtly was like sway house or this stuff ellie seems like somebody would hate them yeah right yeah it's so true and like that's the thing that I don't think. This is fucked.

This is crazy. I feel like he complimented you. He's complimenting you saying that like, you're not like everyone else. You're not like this, like stigma that people like put you in, like a sway boy or like a TikToker, you know? Like, I just don't see you running in a lot of the same circles of a lot. And I could be wrong. You can't judge a book by a cover, but a lot of the same circles that a lot

of the influencers, I guess we've had on this show. Yeah. Uh, I really don't run in the circles. I, I mean, this is, I don't really have, okay. It's so sad when I say this, but I swear to God, it's not meant to be sad. I just don't have that many friends and so like i hang out with my brothers who are my best friends and like i just stick to myself and my bubble and uh i'm moving here by myself and bringing my dog and are you nervous yeah that's a that's a huge move to like move to la by yourself at your age i know it is well i did go to therapy for it last week, but I am super, super nervous.

But I also think that it's time in the sense that like change will come for more change. And so like, I'm ready to kind of develop as my own character instead of being around people all the time. I think that when you're alone, you get to like develop yourself a lot and develop your uh opinions on things and things like that it's time to become my own person you know are you are you interested in any of the stuff we talk about on the show like before you

came on we're talking about pete davidson and kim k and like are do you follow that shit or no are you watching like uh you know i don't know, the finance channel. He's watching just TED Talks all day long. TED Talks on repeat. No, no, no, no. I don't want to seem like I'm a teenage girl. Of course, I care about all of that. Just for the record, there's nothing you've said during this entire interview

that is remotely typical of a teenage girl. Not one thing yet. That was but like nothing. And I'm not saying they're bad or negative, but it's just very different. I feel like I'm talking to an older person. So we're going to go back into these topics and feel free to jump in or give us a stock quote

or whatever you want to do. So when we left, we were talking about Kanye apparently spreading the rumor that Pete Davidson has AIDS. Big jump. Supposedly. Just to me. Well, that's where we left off. Again, to me, it's obviously not funny,

but it's super funny at the same time like i i think of like queen and like well rightfully so but pete davidson does look like he's sick wow he says that he says that about himself he doesn't look you know like correct yes shoes and paleness and that what they do. Vampire. Vampire. Vampire. Yes. Kim Kardashian, the weekly Kardashians, the Kim, Kourtney, Khloe, all under fire.

Photoshop photoshopping pictures within the last week. Kim Kardashian deletes Photoshop fail from Instagram. Our leg is looking extremely morph. This seems like every week there's something with that. I don't know why they care. We had a gigantic. This seems like every week there's something with that. I don't know why they care. We had a gigantic, Brie probably knows about this, Photoshop controversy at Barstool because one of our own employees was going on an account and saying Photoshopped underneath it, which I thought was really mean.

I seem to be the minority. I don't know if I was the minority. I don't know where you were on this break actually no I said that I would never comment on someone's picture I would probably send it to my friends and be like this is photoshop but she was commenting under the girl's picture she lived in her house

I mean her apartment it was a little strange yes agreed that's so sad like if someone decides to photoshop like clearly like why would you call them out on that that's so sad like if someone decides to photoshop like clearly like why would you call them out on that that's so mean and there's two sides i saw there is two sides yeah alex being well i'm protecting like body image because you shouldn't be doing that because you're sending the wrong image and then the other side's like well the girl clearly isn't satisfied with her

own looks and has so you're making her fear worse. I, but it was before Alex had a platform. So was she really being a savior? Was she just doing it to like have her friends comment on it? She was being a bully. There's a little mean girls, right?

That's exactly what she was doing. Josh. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I mean this picture, Chloe, now this,

you can make fun of with zero like that this hand is gigantic like that that you deserve to be made fun of her nails are also five inches long so that adds to it does it not no it does

it does for like the Kardashians like they give a fuck but like but why would the Kardash like but it looks like why would the kardashians care it's like they have constantly been accused of photoshopping but they're so huge i i that's one thing you get to a level i don't even know how you look at your comments or care about anything yeah that's true and it is hard to remember. People are mean to everybody. It doesn't matter who you are. The Internet comments cesspool. That's it.

You get it. Just that's an unfortunate factor. We're all the way sticking with the Jen's Kylie Jenner under fire for stealing packages. Kylie Jenner recently launched a Valentine's Day Kylie cosmetics line and famous drag queen makeup artist Trixie Mattel is calling Kylie out for stealing her packaging. Trixie shading Kylie. This is why I would never want to make a makeup line because it's so hard to be original because there's so much of it that it's like a heart shaped tube. I agree with you. I think there's a lot of time.

Like, I'm looking at these two. They're not close enough. And Kylie is so big, I would give her the benefit of the doubt. If she thought she was stealing something, she wouldn't. And a million people would be like, don't, because you'll get backlash. She's gotten in trouble for doing it before, though, with Jeffree Star. There's got to be, like, a million different companies that have heart-shaped. Yeah, especially for Valentine's Day.

They all come out of the same manufacturer too. Like it's all the same. They all come from the same warehouse. I'm sure you can find a chapstick at the dollar store that looks like this. That has a little heart shape. I thought of that when I saw the picture. It looks like Barbie toy lipstick to me.

Happy birthday, Josh. You're on the thing. Your 20th birthday Monday, you're almost becoming a full-grown human. I know, man. I'm almost an adult and legal and shit. It's crazy. Are you going to throw a gigantic 21st birthday party? I would like to.

I guess you get a little time, but yeah. I plan for about the next 364 days. So happy birthday to you. All right, we got some videos to react to. Lamar Odom on Celebrity Big Brother. Saw this commercial. My name is Lamar Odom, and people may know me for winning two championships

with the LA Lakers. They also may know me for me marrying Khloe Kardashian. We had our own TV show, our own reality show. Why do you look like that? Yeah, maybe. He looked like so upset when he said it. It looked like he just took like a handful of sour Skittles before he fell in love with you. What percentage of people do you think know him as a Kardashian versus an

NBA player? I would say every girl that knows him probably knows him as a Kardashian. How many girls know him? I think a lot. A lot. Yeah. Ellie, do you know who Lamar Odom is?

No. Ah, oh, so you're not a Kardashian fan then? No. So do you watch TV? Yeah. Like, what do you watch?

CNBC. Like, what's your favorite show or movie? No, I like, like, Million Dollar Listing. I like that. So real estate, yeah. Right? That's a good show. The New York one's very good.

I like The Housewives of all the different places um i like curb your enthusiasm okay there you go yeah i think it sucks now but back in the heyday it was like the best show going um snoop dogg's uber eats driver refuses to deliver food motherfucker from fucking uber east didn't bring my fucking food. Talk about he arrived. This is not a safe place. Punk motherfucker, where my food at? Nigga, you got all my goddamn money. Punk.

This is not a safe place. Where was he? Where was he going? He was at the drop house. I felt coming to this house. I was like, this is a scary. How is this a scary home it's like on a brit like a hill there's a brain just like bottles of alcohol just like out on your freaking whoa whoa what he had a birthday party last year 20 party there were there were

people here that was brewing grew and drank Yeah. We're going nuts last night. I was like, yo, we need to relax. This isn't cool. I have a podcast to do tomorrow. Yeah, I had to get up in the morning. Jackson Mahomes handled the L well. I haven't seen this. I don't know what this is going to be.

I didn't know that was Jax in my home. Somebody sent that to me and I didn't know. I was like, what am I watching? I didn't, I had no idea that was him. Wow. Is he not? Nothing, nevermind. Gay?

Yeah, that's what I think. I don't think he's ever come out. He said, he said not gay i'm not gay i have a girlfriend he said that before yeah has he said that okay yeah well there's rumors there's you're not the first person to think that not that anyone cares either way um by the way he and uh in my homes is fiance or wife now i mean people hate them. Like, that was the number one reason people are glad they lost. Yeah, they're like the worst tag team going. Oh, LSU football camp. That was sturdy as fuck.

Yeah, that's the second time he's done it. I think Brian Kelly is trolling. I'm surprised that's on the BFF video thing. I wouldn't have seen that one being on there, but whatever. Swimming from Brooklyn to Manhattan. Last summer, I swam from Brooklyn to Manhattan. I had to start the swim at slack tide when there wasn't much of a current, or else I would have ended up either in the Atlantic Ocean or the Bronx.

There you go, Johnny! Thankfully, there wasn't a lot of ferry traffic that day, and while I saw a couple police boats, they didn't bother me. In fact, the only obstacle I encountered was stale bread. There's Donnie. I think he had to reroute because of a bunch of baguettes. Just a whole bunch of baguettes just coming right towards him. This could be bad. Not sure why I did this besides to prove to myself and my coworkers that I could. I just hope swimming in sewage doesn't have any long-term health consequences. When I made it to Manhattan, a bunch of confused Chinese people were there to

congratulate me. Good job, right? I celebrated by taking a dip with Lady Liberty. The difference between try and triumph is a little bit of umph. I read that off a meme page this morning, and it really motivated me. Is that like the dirtiest water? Yeah, remember the girl on TikTok jumped in the Hudson, and it was like all over the news, and everyone was freaking out? He just did the same thing. He works for us, the wanton Don.

I'm not 100 sure why weird videos this week i feel like unless what we just not have good videos this week well we wanted we wanted a couple extra ones and like brie said we talked about the girl on the show that jumped in the hudson yeah and they were going viral on tiktok as well yeah brie just said that and kareem just capitalized on brie bailing him out a little bit there i don't think i don't know if you actually we do our prep here yeah i don't know. We do our prep here. I don't know. That looked like the prep took three seconds.

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It's great. Bird dogs. Use the promo code BFF and you get that beanie. All right. We got games for Ellie. So we do these. We create them for all our guests. Hopefully, they'll be better than those videos.

Ranking TikToker's styles. So we'll put up, because you're into fashion, right? Yes. Okay, that we got right. So we'll put up the pictures, then we'll all give our feedback on how they're doing. So it's like a tier list. People do this trend all the time

where they do it with like snacks, but we figured because Ellie's into fashion, we're going to do it with style. And S is the best. And then D, is it going to do it with style and S is the best. And then D is it at D or F is the worst. F is the worst. S is the best. That just means you have style.

No, it's like super. So yeah, it's the best. It's yeah. Like Supreme tier. Also, before we do that,

since we're going to make a graphic for this, let's go over the results of last week's smoke circle thing. Yep. Everyone was shitting on me. Mine was the best. Brie won 31.9%. Dave and Dead Last, 19%. That's because Brie picked Harry Styles, dude. It just had all the girls being like, oh, I'm going to do this one.

Well, I think that's because of Adam Sandler. I think he has more pull over Harry Styles nowadays. Ellie, who would you have chosen out of these? Adam Sandler, too. Like, whose circle? Which circle? We can get all three in the circle, though. Okay.

She's definitely picking Breeze. Yeah, Breeze. Duh. That was obvious. I knew enough to knew that one. All right. All right, so you guys have to come up with a consensus on these, like with the tiers.

And then we'll make a graphic. We're all going to put them together? Yep. So do we want to judge off all style or just this one style in the picture i think all good question all so her style in general yes addison ray's style in general so i put you in rank if i don't know the other people you you know? Well, no, it's just her, right? Yeah, it's just her. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Yeah, you just say where you think she kind of lies. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Yeah, I think she has actually really, really good style. I think she has a different style, which is cool. I would say like S, A, between. I think it's good. I'm going to go B. Yeah, I was going to go in between the B and the A. Because there's sometimes when I see outfits and I'm like, what was that?

It's good, but it's not very original, I feel. All right, so consensus, there's a B. Okay, B. Because you all have to agree on one. And reserve S for the top of the top. S is the best ever. All right, B. Well, Hadi.

I mean, me personally, I got to give him a C. It's just not my style. He's grown on me. He's not my style either. I would never do it, but I'm going to put him at an A. I think his style works for him. Yeah, it's very unique too. Yeah, Chase could do it.

I guess we're rating them on their style, right? It's just, I don't know. It should have been Hunter. I think Addison's, like, C, and then maybe he's B. Like, when I think of him, that's actually what I think of, whether you like his, like, he's a, like, wears weird, stylish clothes. Right, right. Like a fashion guy, yeah.

Like, yeah, like, when I don't think of, when I think of Addison, I don't think of, like, what she's, her clothes, her style. Maybe Ellie's Right, right. Fashion guy. Yeah. When I think of Addison, I don't think of her clothes or style. Maybe Ellie's right then. Addison is C and him above Addison. Yeah, I can agree with that. Yeah. Wisdom cat. Wisdom deserves an S. Yeah, yeah.

So steezy, bruh. I have no idea who this is, but those glasses are bananas. Yeah, fine. I'll trust you guys. We're so over the top. zebra so i have no idea who this is but those glasses are bananas i'm gonna go yeah fine i'll trust you guys we're so over the top he's known for his fashion so i think we've got to put him in s for now he holds that spot yeah he does dixie um c don't we already have someone on c you can put them in the same yeah they, they can be in the same category. Okay. Yeah, C.

Yeah. It's not that her fashion's bad. It's just nothing like extraordinary. I definitely don't think of fashion when I think of Dixie. I put her in the same category as like Addison. Yeah, very similar. Blake Gray. I'm going to give him a B.

D? Yeah, does he? I feel like he doesn't really dress that well doesn't he dress like a full pair it's like if he goes to a fashion show he looks good you know

Blake gets outfits and stuff he's a pretty stylish guy I think he has some fits where I'm like yeah that shit's hard same with brie i didn't it doesn't jump out the page yeah i think he dresses up when he has to but like all all around fashion maybe not that good b so what do we think c b yeah c i guess c c total yeah which i think's high this is his girlfriend amelie right did i. This is his girlfriend, Amelie, right?

Did I say it right? Amelie? Amelie. She's kind of a fashion icon, I think. Yeah, I'm going to give her like an A, probably. Yeah, A. Yeah. Fine, I'll go on that outfit.

I think if it weren't for her, Blake would be like an F. Those shoes are awesome. Yeah, defining gravity. Those are are sick the shoes are like missing i'm looking they're missing the heel they're like very like lady gaga back in 2009 yeah i'm i'm down with those i'll go a fine quentin greg's yeah yeah i agree this is this is i'm with ellie this this picture sucks yeah i i i never really loved quentin style sorry dog but um i'm gonna have to give him like a maybe like a d or an e yeah that shirt's brutal that like baby t you ain't about that life it's tough for guys to wear crop tops it is a tough it's a tough one to pull off that's for sure tough one to pull off especially that one sucks

so f are we going to f yeah yeah we can just tana e yeah yeah she's very much just like Instagram trendy, wears whatever's trending, doesn't really have her own style, I feel. Correct. Yeah, E. I think she's been getting there, I think. I think like a D.

And I don't, when I say E, I don't even mean the clothes she's wearing. I guess this game I'm thinking like when I think of them, I think, oh, style. Like she's, she's just seems like she shops at like forever 21 yeah i think she like says that shit too so i don't even think she would say she's a style icon yeah e olivia ponton we have the same stylist so i feel like oh you have to give her a good one then what does that mean like what if you weren't living in LA

styling for like videos like styling you yeah they just like pick out your outfits and shit like special things got it got it got it I think she's pretty stylish yeah I want to give her like a B because I don't think she's as stylish as Omni no that's true

I remember in a video of hers her saying like I'm like not good at style but that doesn't i think it'd be i'd go be i like her yeah yeah she pulls everything off anthony reeves love anthony's fits i love this guy's fits at s yeah i think an s2 i think he like shares which is so awesome his style is so unique to him. And I just think I just fucking love it. Yeah, he's always looking good. This picture makes its way into our podcast every week.

I'll go A because I like this fit. I don't know what else he wears, but this looks great. So let's A for him. Sure, yeah. Yeah, not better than Wisdom K, but still good. Yeah, still very good. All right. Noah back. He's A. He wears great shit. Yeah. yeah not better than wisdom k but still good yeah still very good all right noah back he's a he wears

great shit yeah yeah he's a little fashionista yeah he's actually what i think of like he now probably whether it's dixie or just fashion he could actually be an s for me wow i just think that he took that like his wisdom goes like very over the top with outfits, but he took that like guy style and then elevated it. I think S2 like I think he does a really good job.

He came to my house last night wearing like a tux or something. I saw that he was like fitted out last night. I was just like yo, who's birthday party is this, man? I got a fucking t-shirt and a flannel out shining at your own party. All right.

S for Noah. Avani Greg. So this is Anthony's girlfriend. I think she has good style too. She does have good style. I don't know if it's as good as Anthony's though. Yeah. Maybe she's though. Yeah. Maybe

she's more like makeup. Like if this was makeup, she'd be an S. Whatever she's wearing now is pretty stylish. I'll go. I'll give her an A without knowing anything else. That's where I was wanting to lay. A. A for Bonnie. Yeah. Vinnie Hacker.

E. Yeah, I don't think he really has that much of a... He's just good looking. People just love the way he looks with his shirt off, but his fashion is pretty basic. Yeah, he could wear a trash bag and people would say he looks good. Yep.

E. All right, a couple more. E. Yeah, okay. Nikita Dragon. I think that she deserves... It's not necessarily about... I think she she deserves, it's like not necessarily about like, I think she deserves an S cause she goes like full out for every single one.

You know, she does. I get like respect the fact that like she put on blue hair solely to like match her shoes, you know? Yeah. Yeah. She,

I'd go, I'd go a, there's definitely always like a vibe to her. I don't know if it's all yeah she i'd go i'd go a there's definitely always like a vibe to her i don't know if it's just style but it's like she's definitely going all out all the time yeah for sure maddie monroe last one maddie monroe i don't i don't know her style even enough i'm gonna go see yeah she's very like just normal normal she just seems like pretty girl like wearing what if you go out to a club and like anywhere yeah yes correct she's gonna look like a lot of other people in the club yeah see yep all right that's our that's our tier list all right do we have

do we have time for boomer zoomer yeah i think I think so. All right, so let's do Boomer Zoomer. So what this is, Ellie, it's basically we'll put somebody famous up and we're going to see who knows it. Generally, I get the older people and everyone else gets the younger. I don't know about you because you seem like you're an old soul,

so maybe you'll get some of mine. Okay. Damn, I have no clue. Yeah, nothing. Nothing. Is this for... Do you know this one, Dave? I know I should, but I don't.

Does your name start with like a K? Or maybe an N? Does it? A. Who is it? Ashanti? Wow, nice. I would have never gotten that.

Not even close. Who's Ashanti? Am I crazy? I don't even know who Ashanti is. Yeah. Come on, Ja Rule and Ashanti. A million bangers together. Oh, we probably know the songs if we heard them.

Yeah, yeah. Definitely would know the songs. Banger after banger. I actually hired them for a Super Bowl party. When you said Ja Rule and Ashanti together, it kind of like did something there in my brain. Clicked a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Millie Bobby Brown. I love her. it kind of like did something there in my brain so clicked a little bit yeah yeah millie bobby brown yo yeah i love her she's so cute yeah she's she's the best do you know who

that is dave nope have you ever seen stranger things yep oh i know she's 11 yeah she's 11 i didn't recognize her i should have known that one. She does have hair in that picture, to be fair. She's bald. She kind of looks like she could be her sister, Ellie. Yeah, I actually got that a lot. And it was funny because what I was saying was we talked to the same guy for a while. And so I was like, I kind of see the correlation here with your type. Wait, which guy?

His name is Psy. Psy? year with your type wait which guy uh his name is cy who's on cy is like is this millie bobby brown like somehow connected to bobby brown no the maker oh i think it's just a coincidence no i don't think so yeah it's just a quick quink the singer you're saying yeah yeah yeah no oh no this is you should have this yeah phil yeah phil millcreston yeah yeah no idea sabrina carpenter yep yep drivers don't know who is that who is oh olivia rodrigo wrote it. That's the other girl, yeah. Oh, that's the girl who stole the boy? Damn. There was a couple songs back and forth. I don't even know, really, if we know what happened.

I feel like Olivia Rodrigo won that battle. Yeah, I would say so. Usher. Yeah, right? Yep. Did you know that one, Josh? I knew the Usher. Are you supposed to call it out knew the usher I knew the usher I knew usher

yeah I'm just supposed to call it out I feel like I'm the first like well you're supposed to yeah we're kind of letting you see if you know oh fuck um no idea you guys know who this is do I yeah

I feel like do we have him on last week Do you guys know who this is? Do I? Yeah. I feel like, did we have him on last week? Was he on last week? Who the hell did we have on last week? Yeah, what do you... No, not as a guest. Oh, oh, oh. On Boomer Zoomer last week. No, no, no.

That was Kid Cudi. It's sort of in the same realm, though. I thought it was maybe him again. No, it is... I thought you meant had him on BFFs. I was like. No, no, no. I'm not that dumb.

It is Frank Ocean. Oh, my God. I feel so stupid right now. Everyone's going to be so mad for that. I feel so stupid. Wow. You know what? To be fair, don't.

Like, I think. I haven't seen a picture of him in a while. Yeah, it's not. I don't like follow Frank Ocean very closely so damn I feel so stupid oh oh fucking Sarah nope

Sarah she's in promising woman or no she's in no what is it pretty woman she's pretty woman what's what is it? Pretty woman. She's pretty woman. What's her? Julia Roberts.

Julia Roberts. I was saying Sarah Jessica Parker. That's one that makes me kind of feel old, but what are you going to do? Yeah. My bad. Should have got that, I guess. Oh, that is Tyler, the creator.

Yes. That guy's got some style um fuck this is like sports no clue talk to trey are you serious yep that's so sad i feel likeisby left like twice or three. Yeah. What is she from like when he was younger? I think I get it. Oh, she's from Euphoria.

Yeah, Sydney Sweeney. Yeah. Someone was trying. It's Hunter Schaefer. Oh. Jules. Jules, yeah. I see her in New York

like all the time. I did over the summer. Guys, come on. Don't laugh. They're both blonde chicks in the show Euphoria. She doesn't even, but she doesn't't laugh. They're both blonde chicks in the show Euphoria. She doesn't look blonde.

Yeah. Does she have a thing going through her, the bridge of her nose? She does. Wow. I don't know if I've ever seen that. I don't know if she does for real, but I think it might be a glue on. I don't think it's real. Got it. Got it, got it, got it.

All right. So that's Boomer Zoomer. And I think that, for the most part, is this episode of BFF. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. All right. So that's Boomer Zoomer. And I think that for the most part, this episode of BFF. So we appreciate you. Come on, Ellie. Best of luck in LA. Thank you for having me.

If you're ever in San Diego. And you want to buy a house from her. You're going to give me a pizza place. Yes, I am going to recommend this because yesterday I went to this place that my family's been going to for like 20 years. My basketball coach owns it and works there. And he was like, we were talking about, you know, what are you doing tomorrow?

He's like, tell them, tell Dave, if you're ever in San Diego that his pizza does not flop. I don't know. I think that means a lot. That's good. Stay straight. It'll make it for you. What's the name of the place? It's called mama cellos mama cellos family family owned they're awesome but it's also really good ellie i got you tagged dave in an instagram story one time what was it do you remember oh my god no it wasn't tagged it was

then so i was at the indiana uh the ind Indiana football game and versus Ohio state. And you were there. And I think all of us were a little. Anyway, we set my whole, all of us, we were all like my, our whole group was like, Dave, come over here. And then, yeah, so that's what it was. I didn't know that. Yeah, we did our college

football show there. It was a massacre. Yeah, it was a bad game, but it was fun. So what were you doing at Indiana? We have some of our best family friends were there, and that was actually my first Big Ten football game. And so it was so fun. And I love tailgating and all of that stuff.

Indiana is a great place. Bloomington is a great college town. Great college town. Agreed. I applied to Indiana. So we'll see about that. Great spot. Great spot. All right. Well live and learn. Thank you for coming on. Um, and hopefully catch up with you sometime soon. Yeah. Thank you so much.