BFFs with Dave Portnoy, Josh Richards, and Brianna Chickenfry - Episode 1 - Becoming Best Friends

Episode Date: October 13, 2020

Dave Portnoy and Josh Richards sit down in LA for the first time and introduce themselves to the others wildly different audienceYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/bffspod

Hey, BFF listeners, you can find us every Wednesday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Okay, so we good? All right, cool. All right, podcast one. Are we... This is live, so... Well, not live.

Not live right now. Like live to tape. Yeah, yeah. All right. Yeah, no, I'm going to put it down. Yeah, I think he thought we were talking to him we were talking to each other but that's good that's the producer dude so i can set the stage josh richards myself probably the weirdest combo day portland since your crowd's not gonna know that's the weird

thing i'm always with you usually whenever i do anything everyone knows who i am i know your crowd's not gonna know who i am no they're probably vice versa they're going to think like they saw you flirting with their grandma at the retirement home or something. Tough. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. But yours are going to probably think like, this kid doesn't play hockey. It's going to be that all over. There's a chance they're not going to like you. Your crowd may not like me.

Who fucking knows? So we're going to try this podcast. I don't even know how it came about. It's very odd. Very, very odd. It came from the Chase hudson thing yes so you got there was a beef with him on twitter i talked about it i'm like what's going on here and then your your guy your man your your michael michael who's like we say in the car one of the weirdest dudes i've ever met and and he'll probably

become like a focus because you've been around now and he he is your business manager is that what he is business partner business partner biggest name dropper of all time i'm not a name drop guy and i don't know anybody's fucking talking about but he set this up what is are we sticking with bffs his name of it i think that's what we were going yeah like best friends even though we're like clearly yeah we've been best friends for what three days now three days three days ago two days ago so to give the background for your crowd i'm dave port i started barstool sports been around for like two decades i've seen everything on the internet to me you've been doing it actually longer than i thought but you're a

tiktok guy to me yeah 100 yeah i mean uh for dave's fans fans, I'm Josh Richards. I've been doing social media for four years now. Started with the TikTok thing. Moved into YouTube. And then I'm doing a lot on the entrepreneurial side, getting equity in companies and starting my own energy drink, Anti-Energy. Yeah. And I tasted it. It's pretty good. Michael, being your guy, is like, let me send you a shit ton of it.

He's like, I got so much fucking drinks. I don't need any more drinks. No, Michael. Michael's going to be in on you about that you're gonna have 40 cases trust me i know michael's gonna get thrown out a fucking window if as this relationship goes on it's gonna be like all right dude i get it but so yeah it's two different worlds in my and probably so we did if we're backing it up when when the little Huddy, and for little Huddy is a TikToker, who is dating, I always pronounce her right, DeMaio. DeMaio, yeah, DeMillio.

Charlie. Who's like the queen of TikTok, basically. She was the first, I remember she was in the Barstool offices, I want to say like six months ago, and someone told me, I was like, I don't know who that is. Next thing I know, she got 90 million followers. I saw videos of her. It's like's the beatles when she's walking around so this came out because now they were dating little huddy who dresses like an asshole a little bit yeah he for he he's like an emo he dressed like an emo weirdo for those people listening but he was

dating her number one girl he does you laugh but that's how he dressed i mean yeah yeah that's his style he he dresses i think they call it e-boy e-boy it's like emotional boy i think so they were dating then he was trying to hit on your girlfriend yeah and it became a big thing big enough where it transferred from tiktok to people talking about it on twitter and that's when i i'm like what the fuck's going on? And that's how this all started. And then we did the Instagram live. And I had no idea what to expect because my interpretation of TikTok is like, I have nothing in common with him. I probably won't like him.

I thought our Instagram live went pretty good. I'm like, oh, this is a normal dude. I can talk to him normally yeah no definitely got traction we we were definitely uh feeding little huddy some shots left and right yeah roasting him a little bit right we want you to fight him of course as there's and now we like i mean we're not live i assume we can be live as we say fight there's like a video out of you like people know that you throw punches uh yeah they know right So you're on TMZ. You don't give a fuck. Like, don't seem to care it's there.

I mean, I think it's like we don't condone like just going around and fighting. So what happened with this fight? So pretty much what happened is this guy punched one of my friends, right? Why? My friend was being an idiot. He was drunk. So he deserved to get punched? I mean, I don't think he deserved to get punched because we calmed the situation down down like he he went and like threw a cone in the air and it landed on this like a traffic yeah like a little traffic and then i walked up to the girl uh with my two friends and

we started talking to her and we were apologizing we're like our friend is drunk as fuck he's being belligerent he's an idiot and then she forgave us we keep going we're trying to get in our uber to go to this uh i think like we were going to someone's house. And then this guy walks out of Mel's yelling, like screaming. Mel's Diner, famous L.A. diner. And he's yelling at us saying who hit his car. And then our friend responds and says it was him. And then he just comes over.

How old was this guy? This guy was probably, I mean, he had full beard. Like I'm talking like maybe more impressive than your beard. I mean, that shows the age when you're like how old was this guy this guy was probably i mean he had full beard like i'm talking like maybe more impressive than your beard i mean that shows the age when you're like how old it's like well you could grow a beard yeah i mean he was old i can't grow a beard right so like i mean i think you're 22 you can fucking grow a beard fuck so maybe he was 35 that should give you a sense of the difference here i do have full beard but it's like well this fucking dude's old he had a beard he had fucking facial hair that's fucking wild no he was i mean yeah he was probably 35 he was like was he a big dude i think he was probably over 200 pounds oh so big dude yeah he's probably like

200 210 okay yeah so that happened he throws a punch and then you guys all like piled on him yeah we get we brought him to the ground that was he like were there any injuries uh nothing serious like we talked to the guy after that's what you said yeah so we talked to the guy and like we it was a weird conversation um but pretty much we we settled things like everyone was calmed down and then we left and that was it so yeah that that was the punch of the video i don't even know what we started that but we were well because we were talking about the facetime and little hud. From my perspective, and I'm sure it's the same as yours, why we're doing this pod. And for everyone's like, what a weird combo. Why are they doing this?

For us, it's like, Barstool has been around forever, 20 years. I remember like, I started on MySpace. You want to date myself? I remember people being like, yo, you got to get on MySpace. I'm like, okay. Then Facebook, then Instagram. And now TikTok comes along. It's like, all right, how many followers you got?

On TikTok, I have 22 million. 22 fucking million, and how many you got shipped on Instagram too? Yeah, like over 7 million on Instagram. Yeah, so you're one of the – and it's one of those things I have no idea. I don't know the answer. You may actually have thoughts like how many of the – you're like my hands. I always move them. You're looking at my hands.

I look like I'm fucking moving chess pieces. But for me, it's like, all right, Barstool has been good at staying relevant. There's this entire new audience that may not have any fucking clue who we are. When we got approached,

like, huh, this is a new audience for us. And probably for you, same, I think reverse. No, a hundred percent.

I mean, I was telling you this story, like we did the live stream and then I was walking down the street, like maybe a week after a few days after. And there was a group of 25-year-old guys, which is not my demographic at all. And they came up to me, and they were like, you were the kid that was in the Barstool podcast. Not you're Josh Richards. You're a TikToker.

I was from you guys. So that's kind of the genesis of how that came about. There's two audiences that probably don't know, and then we'll find out if we can make it interesting moving forward. So I came down to L this weekend and first i was telling michael before he came in barstool's so different in the sense we're in new york and it's east coast and like so i've been here like last night i met i had like dinner with milk boys they love you by the way yeah yeah and then i did like uh impulse of the jake paul podcast so i i mean logan paul yeah i can just be like running around and there's all these influencers that i know who they are i remember like i remember when logan

paul came up it's like who's this vine i didn't even know what vine was but we've been following it in new york there's not like you can't do that like if you came to new york you can come to barcelona and like people come through our headquarters all the time but there's not like the tiktok there's so much fucking more going on i don't know if it's good or bad it's different like everyone's kind of doing shit with each other we're in our world like i don't do this i know even like uh when i did the logan paul he's like you never collab with anybody right i'm like not really and that's one thing as you've heard me and mike talk again mike being his manager it's like why you meet this guy why you meet that i don't give a fuck about anybody like generally right you were talking to me and you were saying how like

you're not a network guy correct you're you're a guy that's just you do your thing and you make your videos and then people come to you right and so this is different but good and i was actually kind of asking so it's gone in my head like how many of these tiktok guys are gonna make it like tiktok won't last forever it may last but you know how many people so what you did when you said all right i have 17 million or whatever you said on tiktok and now seven million instagram that's somebody who can move their audience with them how many of those people do you think there are um i mean i think that there's gonna be maybe five kids from tiktok that total i mean i think that there's going to be maybe five kids from tiktok that total i mean i think there'll be five guys and they'll probably be about five girls i

think it's gonna be so that's small out of every fuck like every tiktoker that's crazy that's it so when i go on tiktok is one of the things like i i'm pretty much like if i go out in new york or east coast almost depending on the city but 75% to 80%, I get recognized instantly. I run a Hey Dave, Hey Dave. TikTok, I'll see people. It's like, whoa, this fucking dude or girl has like 2 million followers. Does that mean it? Does anybody know who they are?

It's so different than it used to be, right? Because I've been doing it for so long now. like it's so different than it used to be right because i've been doing it for so long now so i remember like if you had three years ago if you had 100k followers on tiktok it was musically then but if you had 100k you were a known person like that was a lot of like in the street people would be like like with only 100,000 followers okay now it's the point where people can have 5 million followers on tiktok no one will know who they are no how do you judge who's like for me again the content it's the content 100 because some people make videos where uh people like them for their videos but not necessarily them do you see what i'm saying

they're like sway boys we try to show our personality we try to be like do you yes yeah i mean like so i was a douchebag i was at the Sway House, for those who don't know, and I thought it was like a Zoolander skit in the beginning because I'm like, what do you guys fucking do? They all got their shirts off. They're all in great shape. It's like a very boy band vibe. It's like, oh, we wake up, we work out, and we eat protein shakes.

I'm like, no, really, what do you do? It's like, that's what we fucking do. It was a Saturday afternoon, college football. I'm looking at my line. You get the dude from The Bachelor who's, like, awesome looking, too. It's like just it felt like a boy band vibe. So, like, I didn't until we spoke, I didn't have a vibe on your personality at all. I was like, I don't know what this kid is going to be like an idiot.

He's going to be like normal. Is it going to be you say play hockey, which to me is like, all right, he's a sports guy. At least we have that kind of in common. So is like, I don't he's a sports guy. At least we have that kind of in common. So is, like, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I can't tell you. Maybe a douchebag. People think I'm a douchebag, but no joke for people. He, Josh drove me and Frankie back to our hotel.

You got like a Mercedes that 99 bazillion percent of America can't afford. Like it's one of 300. That's a douchebag thing to say and then you drove 190 miles per hour i thought it was a fucking puke like it's such it's it's a quick fucking car it's a quick i gotta go fast you're eight 17 or 18 18 you're 18 driving a car worth 300 grand what is it is how much? 190 in like a fucking 20. That would cause most people to be like, this guy's a fucking asshole.

I don't get that vibe from you when I'm talking, but if I just saw it, this kid fucking sucks. That's what I think happens. I think people on the outside always see me and they're just like, this kid's a fucking dickhead. I do not like this. But once they actually meet me and they start talking to me or we vibe on something, they're always like, oh, I fuck not like this. But once they actually meet me and they start talking to me or we vibe on something,

they're always like, oh, I fuck with that guy. He's a cool guy. Yeah, see, I don't get, I sometimes get with me,

it's different than that, but I don't get, I feel like you can kind of tell when you meet somebody like their aura or just how they are. It's like, oh,

this kid kind of sucks or he doesn't. I haven't got like, I haven't got like an arrogant vibe from you, but you do fucking arrogant stuff. Does that make any sense? yeah,

I think it's like, I think it's one, the lifestyle we live, like we're blessed enough to like, we have someone paying for our house. We have someone giving us these cards. Like all that shit wouldn't be happening if we hadn't worked hard to get to a certain point and then get people to sponsor us. Right. Right. Like if we were paying for rent, we probably would be living in a place that has $10,000 rent instead of $55,000. That makes sense. So it's part of just us being lucky. I think also being an 18-year-old, if I have a nice car, I'm going to go fucking crazy. Yeah, that's a fair point.

It's like people who probably fucking hate you are to a degree jealous. It's like, well, we don't get to do that. And I mean, I do this. So Barstool, backstory like i i started it delivering handing out newspapers outside subway stations moved home didn't have a fucking cent couldn't afford a hamburger i've made now more than i ever dreamed and i'm pretty upfront about it like people know and they get mad about that but it's like yeah right and when i was poor i was poor as fuck and now i have like in my mind i don't know what tiktok money is but like for me

i have like fuck you money that i never thought i'd have i still want more and i'm open about so i could see that what about so you're saying the sponsors you're so young so hard like i can't imagine like when i was 18 i had like a fucking paper route are you rich are you already rich uh i'm doing pretty good yeah i mean i wouldn't say i'm fuck you money because i think fuck you money is like you're talking 100 million dollars plus so that's what i got right so you got fucking okay so i don't know if it's like the same page it's on paper a little bit but you're not there no i'm not i'm not 100 million not no and what are you making millions yeah i'm doing good yeah that's crazy so at what point it's how we talked a little bit it sounded like your dad was like

pretty smart like and just hearing you talk for like five minutes like all right he's got like a grounded like family how involved are that it's almost like because at some level you gotta think and i i don't want to put words in your mouth but let's say a year like the record stops or something like something changes like when you're an influence or whatever, like I always worried about, we've been doing it now for like two decades, but we built it around, but you're you. So if people go out on the Josh Richards brand,

are you set? Like, does that keep you up at night at all? I mean, so it used to a lot, I would say about eight months to a year ago. And then I started talking to Michael and I met him and i was like people in this industry are treated so unfairly like creators they have no union they don't have someone like fighting for them so i'd what would you have a union for though i mean like i went on

two tours that summer a year ago and one i think gross like anywhere from a mil to three million dollars i got paid 750 dollars total total so like i made fucking nothing were you big were you already like i was i was probably one of the top five biggest people on that tour and then we go on another tour and like we see them marking up our merch numbers we see them like doing all this sly stuff in the background to make extra money like selling extra tickets at the door right yeah just. Yeah. Just stuff like that. Yeah. Shady shit. And so when I talked to Michael about that, that's where we came up with kind of like creating talent X.

So we co-founded that together. So you're in on that. Oh yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, no. Talent X was me and Michael and then there were two other co-founders along with us and we went into that and then started sweat. Interesting. So, all right. So that's part of it. So are all this, how into that and then started sway interesting so all right so that's part of it so are all this how does that work then are you like are you getting a cut of the sway boys or is it like all one thing together no so like sway we all own and by the way for those again i this is the weird part of this podcast the sway house is like the biggest male TikTok house. So it's you, it's Bryce Hall.

Blake Ray, Noah Beck, Jaden Hosler, Love Anthony. I mean, the list goes on and on. It's a boy band. It's like Keo. Oh, I didn't know you had that many. I mean, it's so fucking weird now because there's three different houses, right? And fuck those kids living at the Studio City house because you're still living on my rent. So I need my fucking money back.

But there's Anthony, Vinny, I think the kids, I haven't really met him yet, but his name's like Jordan. And there's like another one, all living at this one house that me and Jaden used to live at, and that's where we live. So are you part of the pitch then? If you find a kid, like, oh, this guy, he may be somebody we can blow up. Are you trying to get him in sway? Are you like a recruiter?

That's how it used to be. Like, it was me and Michael texting kids. It was me. I used to study the algorithm, the For You page, like hours a day because I would always then be able to know what videos would get likes and which ones wouldn't. And that's when I was really in my growing phase. So I knew how to just pump out million-like videos back to back to back.

And I'd do five a day. And then I would see these other kids that are starting to blow up and i was like okay if i give them a little bit of direction they can be huge or or if the sway boys help them we got the sway effect yeah yeah yeah that's what we call like barcel it's right it's similar like find somebody who may be talented get them in the pipeline 100 100 but then we clearly on a barcel it's like we monetize those we're a little i don't know how you do it like barstool be like all right like call her daddy that podcast is fucking huge they're basically unknown we sign them to a contract they're with us three years at the end of three years they can go fucking do whatever they want we can resign them that fell apart that's like so big because i'm assuming it

happens with tiktokers it happens with us i heard you guys talking about once in the name but as people grow it's like oh they'll do anything we'll be in your videos they get big and they change how they look at the world 100 i mean there's so many people like that come to us right and they'll start filming at our house and i think we've gotten better at like not letting this happen but they would just use us for videos like they would they would come sleep over they'd make videos with us they'd always be like get in our videos get in our videos in our videos. And the thing that sucks about that is then you don't really know who's out to get you anymore and then who's just really trying to be there and, like, be your homie vibe with you.

So that fucking sucks. But, yeah, we'll usually sign people to, like, two years. All right. So it's sort of a similar business model to us. Like, sign, we'll blow you up. We're going to monetize you when you're here. And then if you if we keep you great if you want to go be a star and do something else we like each benefit from the

relationship yeah and i mean i think that the dope part about sway is that we all push each other so much and i mean it's kind of like what would happen at personal one podcast is going to push the other podcast it's just like when bryce um i first started posting with bryce like i was pushing him and then bryce posts with me and he pushes. Are you guys competitive with that? Like who's got the most like followers and shit? Yeah, every day. It's like who had the better TikTok likes, who had the better YouTube video?

I think me and Bryce are in the YouTube like more. We're really trying to like grow that out and become established as youtubers because we're not tiktokers like we're really like our attitude isn't the same as the other kids that every tiktoker is like i want to be a model and an actor it's like so does every fucking other person in the world right there are like the calm i tiktok i feel like i've seen so i don't like i we i have a tiktok page it's just we have people who just cut up my old videos and put it up there. Although the one we made today will probably end up. I was fucking pumping iron. My skin looks like a baseball glove compared to fucking you guys.

I'm not going. I mean, I don't know. I could probably work at a better tan than you. No, no. I mean, I got the tan. I got like 43 year old skin versus fucking all these young bros. But yeah, there is some comedy. But you got to.

Yeah. You got to differentiate. I mean, were you actually worried about this TikTok ban thing? No, just because I moved to YouTube. I was pretty confident. We had our trailer deal set up, so we were kind of making sure no matter what happens, we were going to be fine. Got it. So, yeah, you want to diversify beyond the TikTok just label.

Do you care when people are just like, dude, he's a TikToker? I don't really care i think it fuels me to like that lets me know like i haven't done enough yet to be not called the tiktoker anymore right like if i'm trying to get to the point where someone calls me a youtuber or they respect me as an entrepreneur instead of a tiktoker or a wiggle dicker whatever you want to call wiggle dicker is my term i know i I made that up because at first, when I saw it, all I saw was you guys just shirts off, wiggle dick. And it was that song that everybody was doing it to. I know what you're talking about.

And the crazy thing about TikTok, it must be the algorithm. You do the same song like a hundred fucking times. Oh, yeah. That's an algorithm thing. And the thing is, is like TikTok just keeps pushing it to like they will just make sure that video does so good when that song is trending like you'll just then the creators post five ten videos to that audio it's yeah it girls do a girl that's the other thing for somebody it's like the girls are wildly sexualized they're like how old is the girls be like fucking 16 like basically gyrating sex every two seconds like all right i gotta get off this thing right it's a

dangerous app how you must have a gazillion fucking girls who slide into your dms there's a few a gazillion because i know what my d i i have a shit ton in life and i'm like not a sex symbol guy how do you what platform do you use for that tiktok or instagram i mean if if i were to use i we know you're using it you can be a hypothetical. So for the, you, you aren't officially dating this girl. NASA was like, I, she's a big TikToker that you blew up.

Correct. I mean, I don't want to take credit for blowing her up. She, we, we, how many followers did she have when you met her? I think like 300,000.

And how many did you have? I think like 5 million. Okay. So, I mean, you blew her up, but that's fine. I mean, that's, that goes a lot. She was probably fucking think like 5 million. Okay. So, I mean, you blew her up. But that's fine. I mean, that goes a lot.

She was probably fucking using you. That's fine. Are you dating? What's your status? No, no, no. We're not dating. She's my ex-girlfriend. We're still cool and everything.

Right, right. So, you're communicating with girls on fucking... Somehow, how are you doing it? I mean, like DMs I guess For what platform? Instagram It is Instagram 100%

What's the average age Of girls sliding into your DMs? They're usually college girls Yeah That makes sense Yeah it's quite a life No yeah It's pretty dope

You know Going to your DMs 50, 60, 100 Just keeps going Yeah I mean Even girls that I know Who are like older Yeah we like these TikToks

And I'm almost a fan Like what are you talking about? You're just fucking weird They i mean i even girls that i know who are like older like yeah we like these tiktok guys like i and i'm almost a fan like what are you talking about they just fucking they probably don't even play fucking sports and stuff oh there's a few that don't bryce he can't fucking play sport for his life really he can wrestle i'll give him that he's an insane wrestler the least like for somehow he has no balance in sports besides wrestling i always have a question for you for guys like this like did you go to public high school where'd you go yeah so like what are your high school friends like so started off i was like i was going into high school being like a pretty popular kid right like i didn't do social media at this time i played hockey i played soccer i played um lacrosse like i played all the big sports in my

town and from canada where yeah yeah outside of toronto small town called coburg like 15 000 people at the time so uh going into that year dumbest decision i've ever probably made but not before my or fuck before my uh ninth grade year i decided to post Musical.ly's, right? And it was because my sister was doing them, and then people were commenting on our videos. And Musical.ly is just like – did it look like TikTok? It's like a ten times cringier version of TikTok. It's like so bad. The worst. Videos will still pop up every once in a while of like my old TikTok or Musical.ly's.

And what were you doing in them? It's just like holding the phone and like syncing and moving your hand, but it's sped up. So it slows the audio down when you film it, and then it speeds it up when it posts. It's just, dude, never look at those. You won't want to do the podcast with me anymore. It's so bad. I've already seen a lot of WiggleDigger videos, and we're still here. That's actually a good

point so yeah but no started doing that went to school it was instant bullying like i mean i probably deserved it i would like who was bullying you i mean every senior i knew all the seniors before i knew like every grade just because one my dad worked at the school uh and two like i told you i played sports but even my own friends like they would give me hard time. But it's a little bit different coming from your friends. Like, of course they're going to make fun of you. But mainly just, like, slurs, calling me, like, gay and stuff like that. And then as well, just calling me a pussy. That's pretty much it.

I can see that, I guess. I mean, high school. Musically kid. Yeah. I don't – I want you to slur, but I'd be like, you're a fucking loser. Like, that – Yeah loser How are you doing it When I started thinking As I was getting made fun of

At the start I was pissed I'm like what the fuck And then I kind of look at my content a little bit And I knew what I was doing And I was just like You know what If I wasn't this kid and this kid went to my school I would bully the fuck out of this kid.

So when did it turn from you just doing it, your sister's kind of doing it, to like there may be something here? I got a video that blew up like the worst timing again. But the day before school started, I posted a video and it got like I think like 2 million views. It got like 275,000 likes likes i was used to like getting 500 likes like that was the biggest thing i've ever had 500 likes this video blows up gets me 26 000 followers overnight i wake up i see it i'm hyped and then i literally start my high school and that's when it was like at that point i was like oh it's too fucking late people are already branding me as this musically kid now if i quit then i'm I'm just going to get made fun of for quitting it.

Right. So I might as well just keep going. And when did you go from Toronto to L.A.? About eight, nine months ago. Moved out here. Oh, so recent. Yeah, yeah. No, I first came out and looked at, like, we were all staying in this house.

I came out January 5th. I stayed for, like, two weeks, and then I went back home. And then I came back out again after that, probably February 5th. And then that's when I started. And what about you? I'm always curious. Like, when I started Barstool, I remember my dad specifically just, he didn't get the internet.

My dad's the type of guy, still to this day, like if he sees an article on the internet, like, he's like, hey, I want you to read this. He'll, like, fax mex me it like he'll print it out in facts he doesn't understand anything so you still have a fax my dad does he does fax it to air i don't have a fucking fax i'm not that fucking old my dad my dad who actually so we have our own radio station we have like barstool on sirius xm like he has uh i gave him basically his own radio show to yell at air. That's like my dad. So he never got it in the beginning. He supported it, but he didn't know what the fuck I was doing.

And as people start recognizing me, he'd be like, hey, how does that guy know who you are? It's like, Barstool, Barstool. What were your parents thinking? It's funny because I've never even said this story before, actually. So awesome exclusive for the podcast. But, um, my dad, I remember when I first started it, like very start three to four weeks in. And, uh, my dad started seeing in his PayPal, like this money was coming in and he was so confused.

Right. So he came up to me and he was like, what's the PayPal? Like how, why were you getting money in your PayPal? Live streaming. So I would go live on, uh, musically and then people would set up like a Twitch thing where people can like donations. Yeah. So then I was making this money and he was super confused.

He didn't really know where I was making this money. Probably thought I was like selling drugs or something. So he came up to me to have this conversation. He was like, so what are you doing? Like, I also heard about these video app, like, what is this? And he was talking to me about it and I like showed it to him and he, and he looks at the phone and then looks back up at me and he's like, this kind of gay and then i was like i was like yeah and then he was like he was like like i don't i don't care like if you're gay it's fine like like he's

supportive right like that's how my dad is but he was just kind of like it is kind of gay though and i was like yeah i know and then like i just kind of kept going with it i explained like to him like my vision was the money right i saw that you can make money off this app and i didn't want to go fucking work at a ice cream shop or like tim hortons like fuck that right if i can sit in my basement turn on a camera and play video games or like fuck around with my friends and make more money than they are why the fuck wouldn't i do it so how important it sounds like obviously even back then for tiktok do you just have to be like really good looking is that like can you can you survive on tiktok if you're not like a good looking i mean if it's funny yeah is comedy catching up on tiktok yeah comedy is picking up a lot right now and like especially i think as more

people got on it the app started becoming a lot more of like a high or like high school college app before it was like i feel like a middle school Right. So now there's like my whole for you page, dark humor, just every single video on there. And like, that's because I think that's why you like, but yeah, there's definitely so much different content now than when it used to be.

And it used to be like, you only really blew up if you were a good looking like thirst trap video maker. What do you think of, and I've seen it while I've been at the house you tiktok is no doubt like that's the buzz social platform people don't even know what tiktok is like tiktok you get all these brands all these people and everyone wants audience and you guys are like kind of the top whether it be you know the hype house whatever with like charlie and those girls

and asin ray you guys are all interconnected. It's over the house, and it's like, oh, this guy's fucking Addison. This guy's fucking. It's all connected. It's literally all connected. Yeah, yeah, okay. So you guys are kind of the top of a pyramid that right now is the top of the top of the pyramid, and everyone, I assume, is hitting you up,

and they want to, like, I'm going to be honest, and, like, who's the guy who did the roast, John Ross? Joe. Oh, oh, Jeff's the guy who did the roast, John Ross? Oh, Jeff Ross? Jeff Ross. Yeah. I've never met him. I think he's very funny on, like, Comedy Central roast. When they said he was doing it, I almost packed my bags.

Like, I got to get out of here. This is bad for my brand. Like, these are guys who are no longer very relevant, trying to get relevancy through the TikTok people. Yeah. What is, like, what's your take on that? Like, people are going to say, hey, Dave, that's what you're doing. I've never done it.

Like, I think we are some back. I still think Barstool is, like, wildly relevant. But some of the people that, like, are not relevant are trying to get relevancy through you. No, 100%. And I think you see it with also, like, these Disney kids. Like, there's a lot of, like, ex-Disney kids that will start hanging out at these houses. They'll start posting with these TikTokers out of nowhere. And everyone's just kind of like, what the fuck is going on?

But it's just people trying to get back at it. I feel like being relevant is kind of like a high. You get hyped up everywhere you go. Every comment. Everyone wants to be your friend. And then once you lose it, which it happens like that right instant um you're like you're missing out on that hot you're missing out on that life so you just try to surround yourself with the people that are at the top all the time what we've probably gone i don't know like probably good timing on this what with

this podcast we talked a little bit how involved like did you have any were you like yeah i want to do this right away or do you have second thoughts like i in your shoes i had second thoughts if i was in your shoes i would add second thoughts i think that at the start like i didn't realize how strong barstool was i didn't actually understand the like fandom that you guys have and like the you guys have like a cult following yes it's very cult and um once i started just looking into it a little bit more i i just was like this is a perfect fucking fit also like i'm trying to expand my audience just the same you know what i mean like i feel like the people that i have a hard time reaching is that like male audience totally different yeah and you

guys reach that audience so well yeah Yeah, my hesitation was twofold. And it was all the way through. It's like, all right, I got to get along with the dude. Because I've never done it. Like, I literally, I barely, I just started a podcast with Barstool for the first time. Like, we have a ton of podcasts, but I usually don't because I'm doing a lot of the business side. And it's all inside Barstool. So very different than this.

It's just like people want to know what's going on with us. But it was like, all right, I don't want to do something where I don't get along with the guy. And it's like I don't want to. It's like dreading waking up to do it. It's like I don't want to fucking talk about nothing. And so that was one. And it's like I don't want to just be like, it has to be good. Like I'm pretty particular with everything I fucking do.

So it's like if we didn't get along, no audience is worth it for me. It's like that's how we've gotten here yeah so that was that was the hesitation with me that's why we came out get along meet see how it goes and I mean who fucking knows you're walking you guys all get shirts off and you fucking protein shakes I was like Frankie I don't know what the fuck's

going on I mean you joined us this morning so I did that's a little I look like an asshole in the video but it'll be a very funny video oh yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if people are going to choose to hate on us or hate on you for that video. They're going to, I think, both. My crowd will make fun of me and you. I think people will be surprised with you.

Our crowd will be like, okay, he's got a head on his shoulders. And to be honest, our crowd's a little older. You're always hesitant being like, he's 17, 18 on his shoulders and to be honest our crowd's a little older it's always you're always hesitant being like you know he's 17 18 how much can you know about business but it's clear you've been doing it for a long ass time yeah i mean no yeah that's been something like i've been passionate about like just that entrepreneurial spirit like i used to have a hockey t-shirt company i was telling i think i think i told you a little bit about it but like it was called berserk hockey and i did it in i think seventh eighth grade like those two years and we just made these designs and would sell them to hockey teams sell them to kids at school it was me and my one friend gavin stevenson so

shout out to him um and then after that it was a lacrosse company it was string so always hustling always doing that shit right so then when i came out here it was like how do i make companies that are going to make money so so what's – well, might as well play. Is the energy drink the number one thing you're focused on right now? Yeah, I think that's the main focus, any energy. Like it's – fucking I was so happy how it tasted because like these energy drinks taste like ass. I had it. It's very good.

And I finally tried it, and I was like, okay, this is actually going to be a good tasting energy drink. I don't have to front about it because like the Bang, like, you know, like the Bang energy promos. Everyone's lying. No one fucking likes Bang. No, Bang Red Bull I don't like either. Absolutely. But I'm not in that. Yours was good.

I don't like to drink it because I don't drink those type of things, but it's good. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So that's the first episode. We don't even know when this is dropping, actually. Yeah. We'll figure that out.

It's not. I mean, there's nothing. It's pretty evergreen. Yeah. And then, like, moving forward, sometimes, sometimes hopefully you'll be in New York. I maybe get LA time. If not, we just do the fucking, you know, the studio stuff. You got to get a studio in that house.

I know. We're going to get one built. And we'll just kind of take it. You can ask me questions in my world. I'll ask about the TikTok world. Stay in touch. Find out how Nessa is doing. Who's fucking who.

Let's figure it all out, man. All right. There it is. Episode one. Peace.