BFFs with Dave Portnoy, Josh Richards, and Brianna Chickenfry - Episode 3 - Nessa Barrett

Episode Date: October 29, 2020

Josh has somehow convinced his other BFF, Nessa Barrett, to join the pod and discuss their relationship, and if she really hates DaveYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/bffspod

Hey, BFF listeners, you can find us every Wednesday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Episode three, BFFs, we're waiting. I don't know how you pulled this off, Josh. I don't know either. I got the text. You're like, Nessa's going to join. I was like, are you fucking kidding me, basically?

So thank you for joining. You know, like I fucking interviewed the president i may be slightly more nervous like now because i don't do you don't hate me right nessa do you even know who i am really no we'll figure out how oh my god yeah yeah we'll see how it goes and then figure out right yeah that's what i'm thinking we'll go with the flow here and then she at the end can be like yeah i hate him no i don't so right i'm sure you know the backstory because i met josh and i'm trying to figure out like his world the tiktok world and i think most of what it stemmed from i was trying to figure out your relationship

i'm like okay how'd you guys meet was she big before you or vice versa and it kind of the way i understood it was like he started dating you and then you blew up your fans fucking did not like that they were like in my ass being like you're an asshole you stink and i'm like first of all i don't even know that that's an insult if that's how it went down secondly i'm not trying to be mean and then i saw your music music video, and it's like, you know the show You? Is that what you based that music video on? Yeah. Right.

So I sent you a tweet, which you probably didn't see, but I thought it was funny. I'm like, yo, is that Josh in the box? Because if it is, we have beef. Now, to me, that's like me being funny. That's what I was wondering. I was wondering the same thing, though. It wasn't.

It wasn't. No. I don't know, Dave. I think that was me in the box. No, it shouldn't be anyone. Then who was it in the box? Right. It was just some person.

It was just like a symbol of your love interest? Yeah. But I feel like once you come out with a song, it's not yours anymore. It's other people's. So if I say it's anyone that is involved in my life, no one's going to relate to it. Speaking of mine. Yeah, but all songs, I'm not a songwriter, but most of the stuff has inspiration. And you guys had a very famous relationship, which I got to add, are you guys together now?

What's the deal here? No. Yeah, no. We're like bffs like the podcast name you know bffs wb like what's the wb with benefits no oh no no so you guys are just without friends without yeah no exactly yeah like josh is like my best friend when did you break up oh my god i don't know like i can't even tell you a date yeah i don't know the exact date it was like a couple months ago right i'm thinking like like january

like february no no wait no maybe like february i have no idea so all right it's a couple months if you guys were publicly dating somebody else you'd be like that first of all i always feel weird when i'm doing this like everyone's like you old creepy dude you're getting their lives but whatever i'm trying to figure out you'd be totally cool with each other dating other people on tiktok or wherever i mean like i would i think that i think ness is capping but i'm not no i'm being honest like we broke up for a reason like we want to grow on ourselves and what does that mean what was the reason like we just had more like maturing to do yeah no she's right there definitely like it just wasn't like i feel like we were in a relationship that we weren't like ready for in a sense have you guys

ever like been together talking about this um i don't really know i think we did a youtube video about it just when we broke up saying, like, guys were broken up. Other than that, no. Other than that, not at all. And I know, Nessa, you're probably not going to answer this, the other thing, because, I mean, there was the controversy you made out with Lil Huddy and his fashion sucks, all right? Like, that's something that I think. This guy, Dave. That is so rude.

Dave does not fuck with his fashion. I think it's dope. I'm his fashion. I think it's dope. I'm sorry, but I think it's dope. You really think his clothes are good? People like his clothes. It's different. It's dope. It's a thing. People like his sense of fashion.

Now, Josh, you're rolling over because she's there. Because if she's not there, you'd be like, that clothes sucks. But he's there. She's there now. You're trying to be nice. And, I mean, you don't like the guy because he made out with her when, like, the shit was going on. Of course, yeah. No, of course.

Like, I'm never going to, like, be besties with fucking or BFFs with Chase again. Like, that's obvious. But, I mean, I don't need to, like, I just feel like he knows it. I don't need to keep digging at him, you know? It just happened and moved on. She obviously wants it to get moved on from because, I from because then she doesn't have to hear it anymore. It's a stupid situation that people just took too far.

It's basic everyday life. Do you know how to announce your words a little louder? Sorry. It's okay. How old are you, Nessa? I'm 18. This is a fair question because you guys both, like, when did your fame hit?

And by the way, let's answer the question with both of you there. Who was famous first? Who blew up first? Josh. Okay, so then Nessa's fans, there we go. And by the way, there's nothing wrong with it. That's, like, a pretty common thing that there's nothing wrong with. So we were accurate in our representation of it.

Fine. But how does it – Say what you want to say next. If you want to call out Dave, call him out. No, I think that like they knew that Josh was like bigger first, but I think it was like when like the whole like using thing came into play. That's when they thought it was a little bit rude. Did I say that?

Yes. What was my exact phrase phrase i don't know that use it's like well that's how you got big but you guys had a real relationship it seemed yeah no it was real yeah i think it was like kind of said something along the lines of like me using him for clout you fucking hate me don't you that's what i'm thinking no you just you just didn't know anything i feel like anyone that like was in like your position and like knew like part of the story would like think that so like how did you guys then meet uh i i think i dm'd you right i literally i i literally was on tour and i saw a video of hers on tiktok and i thought she was hot so i just dm'd her i'm gonna say very clearly she shook her head there is no way you two are like i'm watching the body language i mean i'm

not like you know some expert but there's no chance in hell you two are just two platonic friends la-di-da going about your day there's no fucking chance we are yeah okay whatever i mean i have eyeballs i'm looking right at you and it's like anyone who can see the body language well how often are you over this house house now um i mean not a lot i feel like i mean like i'm also like friends with like everyone so like i come out and we just like hang out. So when's the last time you two went out? There's that picture that's floating around that you guys. Did you see that? Did you see that picture last night of me at Boa?

Yes. That wasn't even me. I wasn't at Boa yesterday. He was at the studio with me last night. Yeah. Okay. So you guys are together. By the way, I thought it, I didn't think it looked like you, Josh.

I thought it looked like Nessa. I thought it looked more like Nessa than it did Josh. But that's also because I've met you and seen you, and I've never seen Nessa in the flesh. Okay. So I don't believe the story you're telling. By the way, there's nothing wrong with it. But the question I was going to ask, you're both young. You both kind of exploded.

Do you care about people gossiping about your life i think it's kind of from josh's perspective and what i've seen it's part of the i don't want to say game but it you know you guys are in the fame game so the more people are talking about you the more people are tweeting about you like kind of the better it is for your brand um do you feel that way, both you guys? I mean, for me personally, I think my image and like the online presence I've developed is like people, I have haters and then I also have people that love me. So it's like as long as people are talking about me, I know I'm doing something right. But I don't know if that's the same for Ness. Yeah, I don't really, I don't really like it.

Like I got into social media without like like, kind of, like, trying, and then it all just kind of happened, and, like, I just don't like always getting, like, picked apart and, like, everyone, like, having their own opinion on me. So if you could go back in time, and this is always a hard question, and be like, would you trade what you have now for, like, animosity? Like, nobody would know who you are. But you lose, like you're starting a music career.

Like there is a lot of things I assume that you've gotten and that you benefit now. Would you trade that to be just a normal girl? I mean like I'd love to live like a normal life and no one really know who I was because I feel like I'd always end up doing music because that's something that I always wanted to do because I don't really care about like the following or anything so you would you would trade all your following to go back in time right now

I think so yeah but even for a music career if that's what you want to do like that could cost your whole music I know like it's helped me so much I mean like actually I don't know because then I wouldn't have met like Leo or... Yeah, you wouldn't have met everyone. Yeah. Who did you just say, Leo? He's my producer. Sound Factory, shout out Sound Factory.

It's where we go to record. Yeah, he's amazing. I thought you meant like DiCaprio. That shows what I know. Leo DiCaprio. But even if you're going down the music career, the ultimate goal, if you blew up with music, people are going to know you that way. Like anything you're going down the music career, the ultimate goal, if you blew up with music, people are going to know you that way.

Like anything you're going down. Yeah. Comes with the fame, basically. Yeah. I just wish like I started off with music. I think it's so hard transitioning from like being like a influencer to like trying to be an actual artist. Well, yeah, because no one takes you seriously. No, no.

And people just think like people kind of shit on you after that. It's like once you become a tick tocker and you try to go into music or acting just think like people kind of shit on you after that it's like once you become a tiktoker and you try to go into music or acting they're just kind of like or yeah that's what every tiktoker just have like their own like opinions on it and they think that like i got big and i was given like the opportunity to do music and i just took it for a bag but it's like i've always wanted to do it and no one understands. But that's something you see. The more people know, including even like myself, you're going to always have haters. But if you look and I'm not dating myself like Jennifer Lopez was a fly girl.

She was like a dancer on like a comedy show and then turns into a career. There's tons of, you know, not from the TikTok world, but from different spaces who get fame in one side and then go to the other. That's just kind of it. As long as you have the fan base, and your fan base is fucking rabid. They were saying some meanest shit that's ever been said to me. They are so protective.

It's not even funny. I don't know why they're mean, though. No, some of the stuff was pretty intense. I'm sorry. I'm a grown man, so I can take it. Like, I was laughing at it, and I thought it was funny. I didn't even really know. Well, you told me how I insulted you because I said you used him.

And I didn't really mean that like you answered him or did anything because you thought you'd be famous. But there is generally one person leads the other and everything like that. So I don't know. Yeah. generally one person leads the other and everything like that so i don't know yeah yeah i think i think maybe i think maybe it was nessa just going undercover as the fan pages hitting you up on all these fake fan pages that's not even funny just getting her word across i just didn't care and i wouldn't care enough to like do anything i just think like one day i think like the day

after or actually like a little bit after you uh posted the first podcast i like went on my instagram and it was just like blowing up of all this stuff it was like fan accounts did you see the memes did you see the memes that barstool made we make we make big yeah because you showed me and thought it was funny and i just didn't laugh but it was funny it wasn't funny 100 funny i But it was funny. It wasn't funny. 100% funny. I don't find it funny. Of you beating up my fans and you beating up Chase? That's not funny.

Chase dresses like an idiot. No. He always goes to that every time. That's the meanest thing in the world. I'm saying his clothes suck. It's not... you know, that you can say a lot meaner things about somebody.

It's just like different like taste in clothing, but personally I think it's dope. Right. So it's like. He doesn't wear a sweatshirt in like sweatpants every day. He does wear a sweatshirt in sweatpants every day? No, I had a suit on. You do? This shirt, this

thing's fire. Do you guys watch the mandalorian absolutely like fire sweatshirt all right so i'm still confused and that's i get it even talking to you you're never gonna like throw anybody under the bus you're gonna be nice no matter what i don't believe you two at all that you're not like still kind of together i don't believe it for a second you're shaking your head. It's like your body language and the way you talk and you're over the house a lot. Do you like, by the way, the rest of the Sway guys, Nessa?

Um, yeah. Are there any that you don't like? Because you should say it on the podcast. 100%. I can't do that. Yeah, if you want to shit on any of the Sway boys, now's the time. I can't. We can go down the list. Bryce, Jaden. I like Bryce.

Bryce, okay. Bryce gets into trouble, but he's a really sweet person. Okay. In person. So then what happened? I know you guys know, sweet old Bryce, the story goes that he was vaping. They're like, hey, you can't vape at this place. And next thing you know, it's like WrestleMania.

So what actually happened? I know you know. Oh, gosh. place and next thing you know it's like Wrestlemania. So what actually happened? I know you know. Oh gosh. I don't know anything about it. Come on Nessa. Nessa. I seriously don't. How do you

I mean like See she's holding out. I know. She's holding valuable information. Did you have to come on? I was stunned. He forced me.

I'm being forced. It was it was it was like I will I will do anything. I will walk your He forced me. I'm being forced. It was, it was, it was like, I will, I will do anything. I will walk your dog. I will come on the podcast. Do not lie right now.

Okay. This man has been texting me nonstop every day. That's not true. To get on this. Maybe like twice I've texted her. And he told me that he was going to have a terrible day because I was not going on his podcast. Yeah, I tried to guilt trip her into it. And I was like, okay, so I'm being

forced right now. Like which is great by you making me do this. Do you know what Call Her Daddy is? Do you know Call Her Daddy? The podcast. No. What? I was going to say it's like this huge female podcast.

It's like wildly popular. I can't get our own girl. She works for me. I can't get her on the podcast. So like shout out to you for getting Nessa on there. I didn't think it was happening. But yeah, I know. I know.

I texted Dave this morning finally. And I was like, she's on the podcast. We got it. Let's film. So what do you think right now? Do you hate me? Or are you like, oh, he's not that bad? Yeah.

What's your. No, I don't hate you. I don't really hate anyone. Oh my God. No, no, no. You're not bad. i don't hate you i don't really hate anyone oh my god no no no you're not bad i don't know how much do you think that do you understand that it's more of a huge like coming from humor than it is coming from like people thinking it's hatred yes and i could never hate you i just want to make that yeah and like because i never met and josh and i are still trying to like figure each other out and figure the podcasts out and figure it in this thing.

I didn't expect this. Crazy. When we did that first podcast, I was like, oh, my God, people are going to have an issue with anything we said. And then I was kind of confused. And then next thing I knew, people would call me a pervert for even opening your YouTube videos, being like, why are you watching her video? She's like 17 and you're 40. You're fucking gross. I'm like, what are you talking about?

I didn't even know I was opening it. So weird. Yeah. So it was crazy crazy so i cut you off so josh what happened with bryce you originally were like said we couldn't talk about it yeah yeah i know there was like there was a lot of shit going on with that but i'm pretty sure bryce came out and talked about it he pretty much told me the same story he told the internet which was he didn't vape at anyone's face they told him to stop he stopped they didn't think he did they came back out tried to force him out of the restaurant without his credit card he asked for it back they started putting their hands on him a friend came in and like defended bryce the manager pushed the friend to the ground and then bryce came in and like split i split it up got involved i don't

know but there was a lot of lies thrown around there were a couple witnesses that stepped up and said like bryce was touched first so it's it's another thing every week with that guy you never fucking know so what is the vibe at like this way house or with you guys when a story like that breaks when i've been around you you guys don't seem to care it's like oh this just we're in the news again is this one where it's like oh shit is there like i get a very different vibe from nessa where if news breaks about her she's like i really wish this wasn't happening whereas with you guys you're like let's let's crank it up let's go like right was this one of those cases i think that in this case it was 100% the opposite than it usually is.

Usually we're like, oh, media, press, let's fucking run it. But this time it was more of like, all right, we need to learn from this mistake. And it needs to stop because it was fucking, it was just dumb. It was a crazy story. It was right after I did it with him. I actually tweeted at him too. Some other things. What was the Bryce hall's a bitch

on the guy's back though i saw that so on r and r yeah there was a guy that got a tattoo bryce hall's a bitch on his back well it wasn't that so we have like a boxing league we we actually i bought like a boxing league a long time ago and we do fights like i don't know well in non-covid once every couple months there's a guy who goes by the moniker i eat ass that's literally like what he calls himself and for some reason he called out bryce hall and he had like bryce written his like handle like i want to fight bryce hall bryce is a bitch bryce actually responded to him um but oh bryce would fight him probably. Yeah.

I mean, who wouldn't want to fight Bryce if you're trying to get notoriety? He has bazillions of fans. So it's one of those situations. 100%. Do you think it's a smart move for Bryce to step in the ring with a guy? Or is he a little crazy? This guy's a pretty bad mamma jamma. I wouldn't see much to gain from Bryce fighting this guy. This guy can fight.

He's like a legit, crazy person, good fighter. So, I mean, people would watch, but I don't know. I don't know. What would be, right now, the number one TikTok fight that people would want to see? I think, what do you think, Ness? You answer first. I don't know. i know you know you could put two people together right i wish i had i think it's i wish when the cameras are off

they were sneaky on so i could see everything that ness is gonna say when this is done because she's just like pleading the fifth everywhere we go everywhere she's like oh i don't want i don't want this tiktok room post to go up, so I better just say I don't know in my cute little voice. No, that's not what I'm doing. I seriously don't know. Yeah, Bryce and Thomas. Bryce and Thomas, 100%.

So that's the guy who started the hype house. Bryce is trying to fight him. They are posting each other's exchange. Do you think they will? No, I don't think they ever will. I think that Bryce is ready to i think that thomas sees it more as like uh let's let's grow off each other let's like kind of like utilize each other's social medias to grow so they just have different mindsets about it like bryce isn't looking to like grow his social media off this bryce is looking

to fight someone like it's a total different thinking process and sticking with fights a big tiktok story ryan garcia who's like a legit professional boxer pro yeah very pro legit probably like top five top ten best known like fighters in the world gets busted on tiktok i don't know how he got busted on t. Like someone else. I really don't understand. Took a video. Something like that. And it looked like so obviously that if you're doing something that you shouldn't be doing. He's making out with this girl, Malu. Do you guys know her?

Like do you know her beyond the story? I don't know her beyond like knowing of her. Yeah. I just know who she is because social media. So they're making out and he's got a pregnant fiance at home this story blew up again and and he's pretty well known like i saw a video he was teaching like addison ray and one of the de mellows like to box so he's in the tiktok world are you laughing at the way i said the name yeah yeah yeah you never get that name right

so this is we we actually want them on this whole world of tiktok becoming like the new e-weekly it's just bananas like it's like it exposes someone every day right right tiktok is outing people fucking their careers canceling people it is like the tool to just like expose people it's insane i i don't understand but it's just everywhere you go if you are in like the public eye you just need to be ready to get caught on video because that's just what's happening it's like it's so draining though because like i just like did not go out for a good like month and a half because i was just like so like tired of like paparazzi or like hollywood fix like catching me on video. It's just so annoying.

And they always try to twist shit too. They always try to set you up. I mean this Ryan one, it's kind of hard to set the guy up. He was, you know, tongue deep in Malou's throat. Yeah. Go ahead. Sorry. No, sorry.

They're like crazy though. Like they'll hide in the bushes. Like they'll get like whatever they can. So what is your, where do you live? Nessa? Are you with like your parents? Like what, where are you in can so yeah what is your where do you live nessa are you with like your parents like what where are you in la like what's your deal yeah um i live alone in hollywood see i mean that in itself is nuts when you really think about it because you're still super young so what was it what what was your plan before you blew up um if i'm being honest i didn't have one and i was like insanely scared and i got a lot of

anxiety going into senior year of high school because like i did not know what exactly i want to go to college for where i want to go to college or if i even want to go to college because i never really liked school um i just couldn't like focus yeah i was just like gonna stay home for a little bit and then get a job. But I mean, thank God this happened because now I can do like music. Right. That turns. And then, Josh, do we remember what the original slide was, by the way?

The slide. The slide. Yeah, slide. You slid into her DMs. Oh, shit. It just pulls up all DMs. Should I go through and see what the first DM I DMed you was? I'd be very curious to see the first DM.

And did you already know everything about him? That's where you're like, holy shit, Josh Richards just DMed me? Okay. It was like kind of during the time where like that whole like Lights Out group blew up on TikTok. That was the tour I went on. It was called Lights Out group blew up on TikTok. That was the tour I went on. It was called Lights Out. Yeah, so it was, like, a group of, like, guys that, like, some were on Sway, some are in Hype.

Yeah. But, like, they were, like, kind of blowing up. And I, like, saw him, like, a few times on my For You page. And then, like, obviously, like, I knew who he was. I didn't, like, I wasn't, like, following him, though. You had no posters in the room. She probably had a few posters. Do you have the original?

Do you have the first? No, I didn't. I have the first DM, but it was lame. What did it say? It was just a hey. I really just slid in with hey, and then she said hi. And then I said, what's up? She said, studying for my finals.

How about you? And I said, nothing. What's your snap? Because I was just trying to move it over to snapchat you know that's that's terrible game right there yeah this is not i don't know how i got it i pulled yeah but is it terrible game if it worked out that's also the famous all right so how long i don't know why i don't know why this is interesting yeah wait when was the date of that uh that's June 11, 2019. And how long did you guys talk before you actually hung out?

Probably like... Three months. Yeah, I would say like... Yeah, we were talking for three months before we saw each other in person, like FaceTiming every day. Yeah. But not together at all anymore, huh? Mm-mm. I mean, the guy basically laughs when he answers that.

You basically... I don't know why. Dave, it's because your face. He thinks everything's funny. You have just such a contagious smile, Dave. I have to smile when you smile. I've never, ever been told I have a contagious smile. I've never once been told that.

It is a fact. All right. Everyone knows it. So if you guys, if I said right now, like, put your hands up and swear on your mother's lives, you would both do it, that you're not together in any way? No, we're not dating. You don't hook up at all? He's my best friend.

That's just weird. Hands up. You do it. You swear on your mother's lives. Why did I just hear, like, a laugh in the background of your studio, Dave? I just heard, like, someone, like, just like a, like, one of those cough laughs. I just don't believe anything I've been saying. But, all right.

Wyoming. What were you guys doing in Wyoming? Well, it was like Brock Pierce invited us out to Wyoming. And he's running for the independent, like, I don't even know. It's like some independent voting president. Who's Brock Pierce? He's a crypto billionaire. Oh, all right. right crypto is flying yeah go

ahead so you so what were you doing so we just went out there i mean it was just kind of like cool to go to wyoming we got some vlog content i shot some youtube stuff it snowed hella so i tied a toboggan to the back of a six-wheeler truck we did some donuts it was awesome but sounds awesome it wasn't like there wasn't like a plan to my vocabulary hella try to do that hella yeah you gotta you gotta add that one and maybe like liddy liddy titty maybe throw that one in the vocab to shindig do you say shindig like what do you mean by that like that was a shindig? Yeah. Like, what do you mean by that? Like, that was a shindig? Am I using that correctly? No, it's like a party.

Yeah. That's like you're using, like, a 60s word that you brought back. Shindig's been around. Like, that's like, yeah, that's, like, super old. Yeah. Like, older than Dave old. I use it all the time. Lobo.

He goes lobo. So I'm starting to get a feel on Josh's life. Like, Nessa, what is a typical day for you? Pretty much just, like, wake up and feed my dog and go to the studio and go home and sleep. So it's all focused on music right now for you? Yes. Are you still making TikToks, like, on the regular? No. Yeah, I've really cut down my social media time

and haven't really, like, had that, like, a priority. You're trying to brand yourself as, like, a musician now, right? Yeah. So, like, like I said before, like, it's so hard, like, transitioning from, like, an influencer to, like, an actual, like, musician. So I'm, like, cutting back from, like, all the social media stuff and pushing so much on music, which has helped me like a lot personally. And I feel like would also like ease like that transition better.

But yeah. What was your first impression when you met Michael Gruen, Michael? I don't know if you saw that face, David. That was not a good face. She didn't. She did not like that question. If you do you want me to pull out all the cards on this man right now on this podcast would that hurt you no go for it say whatever you want to say like everything say it i do not like i do not like him why

he's rude uh he is he is so rude he hates he hates me he me. He has it out for me. I think he's jealous because he's secretly in love with Josh, which is no problem. But, yeah, he has called me ugly to my face and in front of people. He has said that he wants to. That is not true. Okay. That is not true. You know that's true for a fact, and I have so many people that witnessed it. Michael said, I'm defending him on this one,

he said my taste in women was not good. That's what he said. In front of her, though? That's, that's, yes, yes, yes. And just kept repeating it and looking at me. I mean, I'm on Nessa's side there. That's, that's the same thing. That's like, that's like rude.

Like, that can make me cry. But anyway, like, yeah, he has said, like, the beginning of quarantine, that he wanted to send me on a one-way ticket to Mexico and have me trapped there alone. And I was 17. He is just rude. Nessa and Michael have a feud. It's awesome.

It's super entertaining for me. No, it's no feud. I just don't waste my energy on him. I just don't like him. He's a terrible person to be around. That is the most like we've most energetic and by the way i kind of believe everything she's saying also i would kind of see if i'm putting on like my psychologist hat it's because you guys probably are pretty close

and josh is my like michael's guy needs him do stuff it's like i'm talking to ness i'm doing ness's stuff so you're in the way probably i don't think i'm in the way yeah why the hell you getting in the way i'm not in the way though I'm in the way. Yeah, why the hell are you getting in the way? I'm not in the way, though. Like, I don't do anything. You see how she has more emotion behind her voice now and she's actually into the conversation all of a sudden? Crazy, right?

That woke her up. That was like a jolt of energy. It's like, what do you think of Michael? We said the name Michael Gruen. Let me fucking tell you about this guy. Because he just... She told everyone to shut up. She was like,

give me the mic. This is my stage. I got this one. Now, it doesn't surprise me that Michael said that, but what's, the story she just told is a wily asshole thing to do

to be in front of you. So, he's, he's a certified asshole. There's nothing else to call him. He's just rude, and he hates, he hates me so much,

and I just don't care because I've never done anything personally to him. Yeah, they have a weird. It's just rude and he hates he hates me so much and i i just don't care because i've never done anything personally to him yeah they have a weird it's just and like even like when that like that podcast came out like the first episode like he was like fighting my fans for a good like 20 minutes just like commenting back to them and i i i don't even understand so i just like hit the unfollow button i was was just like, I just. I saw that. I saw that. Yeah. Low key savage move.

Respect it. High key. And I, and by the way, it's just, again, that I, the one thing I'll say about Michael, I, I think if you ask him, are you an asshole? He would probably be like, yeah, I'm an asshole. Like I don't get a hundred percent running from that. Yeah. He knows. Right.

That doesn't mean anything different different but that that's a dick thing to say and for you guys you guys were dating when he said that in front of you no it was like recent yeah it's pretty recently we were just it was like what a month ago no i'd say it was probably like a few weeks ago honestly like maybe like three and it was like all of us in like the backyard like hanging out there was like there was like 10 of us and then 10 of us and like that's like when it gets embarrassing because it's in front of other people and i'm just sitting right there and everyone knows it's targeted at me and it's just like rude yeah it was messed up i mean it's because i think it was like it came from humor i mean he was making fun yes it did you talk do not lie

right now do not lie hey i don't want you speaking because you're just full of lies. I'm not full of lies. I'm not. I'm not. I'm 100% on Nessa's side because you can tell. She got so animated about this, you can't pick up that emotion. Oh, no. I'm not on her side. I was just trying to defend Gru in a little tiny bit just so he didn't come off as the biggest dick in the world.

That's what makes me mad, though, because he just lets whoever talk as bad as they want on me and he there's just like no defending we're we're not dating you just said that it doesn't matter but like you guys are definitely fucking dating even the way no we're not no no but i'm just saying like and anyone in my life like that like i care about and of course I care about him like he's like my best friend like if anyone was to say like anything negative about like that person or like anyone that's close to my life like I would defend them I think that's like you just have to I do defend you no you don't you let Michael call me ugly no I didn't that is rude at what point though you got

mad as soon as I said something. At what point are you like, you know, like you're obviously attractive girl. At what point are you like, dude, just look in the mirror. Right. Like at what point do you just like go back to like, you're calling me ugly? Like, what are you talking about? I mean, like, I don't, I don't know. You got like, you got like 10 million plus followers to prove that people obviously like how you look. Yeah, I know, but at the

same time, it's just like it still hurts. Yeah. It still hurts to hear someone say that. Well, you can literally, there's so much ammunition on Michael too. Totally. You know what I'm saying? You can easily pick on that guy. He's not exactly fucking George Clooney.

Yeah, but I still wouldn't say anything like that against him because what he said to me hurts. I'm still not mean enough to say that. I feel like Ness, when she gets attacked or someone chirps her, she kind of goes into a little bit of turtle

mode. You know what I mean? It's more of like, oh, now I just feel bad. I don't want to make it worse. I'm not a mean person. She's not confrontation. That's the exact word. I don't want to make it worse. I'm not a mean person. She's not confrontational. That's the exact word. Yeah, I don't really like to get in arguments. Dave, I feel like we're very opposite. I look for confrontation.

Exactly. And I will say, Josh has never, to me, said one negative thing about you. Not behind. You've heard what would be construed as the most negative you heard. And I didn't even think it was negative. So he's had nothing but good things to say. Yeah. I don't stick up for you.

Head ass. You're not saying anything bad about me. It's not like you're not sticking up for me. All right. So we got a couple and we'll wrap it up. We start doing the fan questions, which I think will be a good segment, know yeah that we can continue and i just picked a couple you guys can both answer them if you could go to dinner with one person you've never met before who would it be geez um i'd probably go to dinner with i would have to go to dinner with matthews you know toronto

austin matthews yeah austin matths. So I used to do a goalie challenge where I would throw on, like, street hockey gear, and then NHL guys would come in. So it was like him, the little guy who looked like, what the fuck was it? Marner?

Marner? Yeah, Marner. They all came in the office. I stoned the fuck out of them. I mean, they couldn't... Oh, I did that to P.K. Subban. I don't know if you know, but I dressed up.

I know P.K. well. Stone cold goalie right here. I'm the nicest tender you'll ever meet. But he only scored like one or two out of ten breakaways. It was too easy. What about you? Probably like Billie Eilish. That's a good one in the music industry.

Biggest douchebag on TikTok? Bryce? bryce yeah i'd say bryce hall 100 dude he was over at my house this morning giving people permission to touch his muscles i gotta be honest i met him i thought he was gonna be way bigger he's not like a huge guy that's so i thank you for saying that yeah jayden called him Stumpy. Yeah, Jaded called him Stumpy today too. That got him going. Like Bryce is like, he just walks around and he's like, yeah, I give you permission to touch this rock.

That's kind of like the entire Sway House. I even saw your video the other day. You had some wrap around your chest and you were pumping iron. And I see that and I'm like, when I see those videos, I'm like, yeah, no shit. A lot of people think these guys are douchebags. It's like if I just saw the video, I I'm like, when I see those videos, I'm like, yeah, no shit. A lot of people think these guys are douchebags. It's like if I just saw the video, I'd be like, this kid's an asshole. Like if that's the only experience I had with them.

Look at her shaking her head. See how she's shaking her head. She's like agreeing with you, saying I'm an asshole and a douchebag. But then she can't say other people are assholes and douchebags. It's kind of messed up. When did I ever not say anyone was an asshole? How people dress. We just talked about that.

Well, I'm being honest. Without dressing. So you don't think he dresses up, but you admit that when the Sway Boys are in that little backyard of theirs with their shirts off just lifting, they look like idiots? I think it's funny to watch the videos. So you're laughing at us, though? No. I mean, like, it's cool that you guys are working out,

but I just... See how she's trying to flip it? We almost got her, Dave. We almost pinned her in a corner. Got her to say something bad. The only thing... We got Gruen. If we mention Gruen, she's going to go for the throat.

Other than that, it's going to be... Maybe her and Gruen go in R&R? That would be a hell of a fight. I'm not getting into the same room with him. Okay. Jeez. Never mind. I already have the answer to the last one for you guys.

Would you date a fan? Clearly, because you guys did it with each other. No. Okay. Take that back. Take that back. How was that? You were totally a fan.

I was not a fan. I was not a fan. I was not a fan. I was not. Hell yeah. If Josh Richards wasn't Josh Richards, when apparently his intro DM was, hey, you would have responded to just a nobody? Yeah, if I saw his face. It's a compliment to you.

I don't believe you necessarily. Yeah, I don't believe her either. What do you mean? I looked like a squirrel back then. You're in high school. I'm just saying, you're in high school and you have people from other schools DMing you. Do you not answer them just because they don't believe her either. What do you mean? I looked like a squirrel back then. You're in high school. I'm just saying, like, you're in high school, and you have people from other schools DMing you. Like, do you not answer them just because they don't have a following?

Like, be honest. I mean, I didn't answer DMs around high school because I was doing social media. Okay, well, before social media. Okay, see, like, you wouldn't understand. Yeah, I have a different situation. But, like, I wasn't, like, doing social media, like, during most of my high school.

Let's just leave it at this. She answered because she's a fan. So we both would date. Don't say that. That's next question. That's not. I mean, it's again, I don't even think there's anything bad. There's a bunch of randomness.

Dave and Josh going to start business together. I don't think we're even close to having a business together yet. Who fucking knows? I already asked nessa if that was supposed to be josh in the cage there's nothing she can say that's going to make me think that wasn't you in the cage the timing adds it wasn't it was not the timing adds up but she says it wasn't so now i'm apparently i don't defend her so i gotta defend her now what timing there is no timing well when you guys there had to be an incident that caused you guys to break up or it's just you both grew so much.

You're like, oh, we got to spread our wings. Something had to happen. We turned into butter. No. Yeah. We just like we're not happy anymore basically. That's pretty much. I mean, there's a bunch of basic stuff that we've already done.

Some questions I won't ask. I think that's about it. I appreciate you coming on, Nessa. I feel like I've become this weird interview guy now of the TikTok world. I'm not quite sure what to make of it. Right. It's like we almost just like interview people and their drama now. Yeah.

And the reaction my people are getting, like the Barstool, the Dave, I'm getting everything. Some people are like, you're such a fucking douchebag for getting into this world other people like i surprisingly like it other people like you're a pervert so i'm getting fucking everything under the sun doing it no i'm getting it all too besides the pervert part oh no i seen the tiktoks booming i see them going all over the for you page uh i mean i yeah I feel like some of your fans are liking me now. I see a few people being like, I'm actually starting to like this Josh kid. He's not a fucking douchebag. And then some people still hate me, so that's cool.

And not that the charts are everything, but if you'll notice, like a lot are slipping. We're kind of like staying, like we're going up a little bit. We're like not going anywhere, which is good because it means people are kind of listening and like, all right, I'll listen to that again. I got a lot of people today being like, where's the podcast? The Nessa fans I'm sure will join in on this and maybe they won't hate me after this one too.

Hey, let's hope so. That would be awesome. Anything else? I mean, I think that everyone should probably go and stream Nessa's song because she did us a favor and came on here. Absolutely. So what's the best way to do it? To go on iTunes?

Any platform. Apple, Spotify, all that? Yeah. Pandora. There's Deezer. I don't even know what that is, but that's one. All right. Go listen to it everywhere.

So just go play it on any platform is what you're saying. Yes. I already listened to it,. So just go play it on any platform is what you're saying. Yes. I already listened to it, so I liked it. I studied it, and then I got called the P word for it. All right. Thank you. That was very nice of you to come on. Thank you for having me.

All right. No problem. What's your dog's name, by the way? Last question. I'm good at guessing, and I'm going to go with George. Her name's Baby, but also Chicken. Baby and Chicken. Is Baby named after anything in particular?

No. When I got her, she was just so tiny, and she's still so small, so I was like, she just looks like a baby. Got it. All right. Yeah. Baby, George, six of one, half dozen of the other. All right.

Thanks, guys. Yeah. Until next week. Peace. See ya.