BFFs with Dave Portnoy, Josh Richards, and Brianna Chickenfry - JEFFREE STAR ON HIS RETURN TO THE INTERNET -- BFFs EP. 36
Episode Date: June 30, 2021Jeffree Star joins us in Miami to talk about his return to the spotlight, his makeup line, the drama around his name, Kanye West, and your favorite NBA player in his DMs. We play a game of word associ...ation and finish with a game of the fan favorite f*ck, marry, kill.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/bffspod
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Okay, BFFs, let's start.
Josh, what's up with that fucking pullover?
That's disgusting.
You don't like it?
No, I don't.
Not at all.
Why not?
School makes me puke.
I like it, Josh.
Why do you like it?
I think it looks cool.
I went to school in Ohio. What does that mean. I like it, Josh. Why do you like it? I think it looks cool. I went to school in Ohio.
What does that mean?
I like OSU.
Where'd you go?
I went near OSU, and I went to OSU every weekend.
It's a party.
You were near the school that kicked you out?
No, no.
I just went to another school.
That's lame. You go to school in Ohio, you claim Ohio State. That's like I just went to another school. That's lame.
You go to school in Ohio, you claim Ohio State?
That's like I went to school at Michigan.
I'm not like, oh, Michigan State.
I just said I like it.
It was a fun school.
Okay.
Anyways.
Let's get into the headlines.
So last week, Josh, we had the little do-to-do with Karina.
Right, right.
Yeah, we did.
Karina, and for those, I was taken aback because karina uh
slid into your dms asked her on a date you said you were too busy i'm like you unbusy yourself
and then uh we went back and she she responded because you said you couldn't do it because you
had a dinner she responded i actually rain checked because out of town but we'll go with that a couple emojis and then i didn't see this you you put in you
responded that's odd and you put in the whole yeah because a lot of people i saw a lot of people be
like josh's cap and i knew what that meant it meant lie i've learned that on this show i i i
ain't with that i didn't do that i said said, I was like, I have a business meeting.
And then she hits me with the, oh, shit, now I need to come up with an excuse.
I'll wait a day, wait the next day.
It's 5 o'clock the next day.
And she's like, oh, never mind.
I'm actually going to Miami.
It's like, ah, okay.
Yeah, I'm on.
I mean, both of what you said sort of you could claim the truth.
But I also was like, yeah, we'll reschedule.
It's not like I was on the podcast being like, no.
Did you talk to her after this thing, after we talked about it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She texted me.
Laughing?
Like, ha-ha?
Yeah, kind of.
It was like I was joking around with her.
So I don't know.
I guess I don't know really how she was speaking because it's through text.
So it's kind of like you take it how you want.
You'll have to keep us posted on the wild adventures of josh and
karina you should call her right now on the i'll keep it updated i feel like i feel like that's
just not a great idea i've asked her to come on this pod before and she's like i don't do pods
i feel like if josh asked maybe she would yeah And have you asked the Tomellos yet?
Yeah.
They weren't in Miami when we asked them.
But, like, Josh is in L.A., I'm in the Hamptons, and you're in New York.
I mean, we have this thing called technology.
Okay.
We'll ask them again.
I'm supposedly going to see them 4th of July.
Oh, really?
Oh, really?
Yeah, that's what I heard.
I'm going.
supposedly going to see him 4th of July.
Oh, really? Yeah, that's what I heard. I'm going, um, Michael
Rubin is throwing like this gigantic
like, it's a white party.
Supposedly it's like going to
be replacing Diddy's like white party
in the Hamptons for the 4th, so I'm going to that.
I got some white pants tailored way too small.
If people think I wear tight pants now,
oh, just wait. Just wait.
You ain't seen nothing yet, boy.
Nice.
We're talking more about son of a boy dad versus Gruen.
And that's, of course, our son of a boy dad is our guys,
Roan and Sass's podcast.
Roan and Caleb say Gruen will run Barstool one day,
but where he could become like Harvey Weinstein.
They face-signed him.
Josh, although sitting next to him,
was too much of a pussy-ass bitch to hop on the call.
Let's see the clip.
Let's see the clip.
I think I walked by him or some shit.
We were saying that you have,
and please don't take this the wrong way,
but you are on a trajectory of an early Harvey Weinstein
in his film-producing career. Not in the bad way, but you are on a trajectory of an early Harvey Weinstein in his film producing career.
Not in the bad way, though, in the good way.
Like, you got to think that Weinstein did a lot of good shit before he came out as a
bad guy.
I mean, I have a lot of friends that work for Weinstein, so I kind of know some of the
stories from just how he was in the UN.
I said, listen, Gruen is, he is, if not one of the next presidents of the stories from just how he was a human but i said listen gruen is he is if not the one
of the next presidents of the united states he will be our boss but but he has a half of a brain
right now because he's still young and you have to admit that the human brain doesn't fully form
until you're 25 and that's facts i didn't make that up that's facts so i know you're about to
say something cool right there but let me finish finish. Dude, look at the screen.
Are you doing other business deals?
I am.
I'm answering emails.
Sorry.
I said that you will run Barstool
if Barstool chooses to keep going
and doesn't just become a chain,
like a mall,
like something you go to in the mall
and buy like Hot Topic, basically.
Why do you?
You're basically calling all fat people
that you think,
all fat people you're saying are essentially fat people.
I didn't even say that word, F word.
I never said that.
You said that.
Well, here's what's happening.
And I think Rue knows it.
Those three cats right there, Roan, Caleb, and Little Sass, like, I mean, if those three try to engage you in a conversation, you just don't engage.
Yeah, they're trolling everyone they speak to.
Their entire existence is a troll.
So another thing that we sort of broke with Vinnie Hacker,
and Josh, you've been saying it, and Gruen's been saying it,
the social gloves that these guys aren't getting paid.
So they reacted to our podcast and put out this statement.
It was, of course the tiktok first youtubers before this was an unbelievable tweet or dm or what a story statement yeah before people start any rumors they were talking about us we are
working tirelessly to verify the financial results of the Social Gloves events. We have hired a leading account firm
as well as a first-class forensic auditor
to make sure that all the amounts are properly accounted for.
Our sincere hope is to pay every fighter and every talent
who participated in this spectacular event
in a reasonable time frame.
Please continue to send us your receipts
as it assists verifying the total amounts earned.
I don't know what the fuck that means
anytime you're talking about bringing in forensic auditors and like receipts like what are you
talking they're not gonna get paid that that's a crazy that's what that means that's what that
story means they said that they hope bless you thanks i saw welcome they're saying and this is
later in the notes that they did like 130 000 pay-per-views
i don't think that's been confirmed but that cannot be right no even if later on they had
that many though the problem is that's not going to be enough to pay everyone 130 000 that's how
much we did on rough and rowdy with jose canse 140. There's no way they only did 140. That would be a disaster of epic proportion.
Epic.
They had to do more than 140.
Austin McBroom is saying that that's not the right number
and the truth is going to come out.
It's like later on.
It can't be.
We did 140,000 pay-per-views for Ruff and Rowdy,
for Billy Football versus Jose Canseco.
Yeah, but how many 12-year-old girls have their own credit card?
Yeah, but doesn't a 12-year-old girl tell, hey, daddy, I want to watch boxing?
And then the dad's like, I'm going to pay 50 bucks so you can watch two guys that lip sync to a camera punch each other?
I know.
Honestly, yeah. two guys that lip sync to a camera punch each other i know honestly yeah like if i tried to
ask my dad to buy that when i was a kid he would have been like he probably would have had a talk
with me actually he probably would have sat me down for like a 30 minute talk but there were
people in the crowd so it's the same logic no i think that they they had to have sold way more than that. Way more. I don't think so. Really? No, I don't.
We did 140 for one.
For like, for Billy Football.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's no way.
They did 139.
I don't think, there may be an extra 10,000 pay-per-views.
Oh, I think it's, well, I think it's going to be at least 500,000.
Well, McBroom came on the pod and said it was going to a million and speaking what's he gonna lie about his event yeah tana is
calling him out awesome mcbroom because he owns part of social gloves not awesome this is and
she's got a new podcast i guess as well tana coming out that's why she's changed her name
to canceled which by the way she didn't i. I will call her ass. She's never.
I've never spoken with her ever.
Actually, I don't even have her phone number.
I just have her DM.
Do you have her phone number, Josh?
Yeah, I think I do.
Read it out over the air.
Yeah, I have it.
Yeah, just spill it.
Just read it out.
Put it on speaker.
You want me to call her?
I was going to.
I don't have it.
I don't think.
You could send her number to Dave.
I feel like fat chance this girl is up right now.
Oh, yeah.
It's like 8 a.m. in LA.
Absolutely valid point.
Or she could still be up from last night.
So am I calling or what?
Yeah, give it.
We could try, yeah?
Yeah, might as well.
Just be like, we're trying to get in the pod.
What's up?
I'd tell her.
I think...
Changed her number?
Am I blocked?
Josh is blocked?
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Check if it's still blue.
I'm sending a text.
If the iMessage is blue.
Oh, it's blue.
It's blue. We're good. We're good. We're good. It delivered. I'm up blocked. All right, iMessage is blue. Oh, it's blue. It's blue.
We're good.
We're good.
We're good.
It delivered.
I'm up locked.
All right.
We'll see what happens.
Okay.
I texted her.
Oh, shit.
Thought I did something wrong.
That's a good segment just to start randomly calling people.
Yeah.
I think a lot of people would love us if we did that.
We just randomly call them.
But if you get the thing, we'll tell her, hey, you're on the air.
You can hang up on us or talk. Anyways anyways she's got a new podcast coming out called
canceled i think supposedly worth millions her instagram handle now is canceled but she said
not awesome mcbroom owning most of social gloves and then everyone being surprised people aren't
getting paid by the way she fucking hates awesome mcbroom awesome reply not the most desperate human
being speaking on shit she doesn't know about
don't try and bring me or the event down to make you feel better about tana con what the fuck's
tana tana con was a disaster she she put on an event and it was the biggest fail in like history
of youtubing events every fighter including myself will be getting paid and a lawsuit is
happening it's not with social gloves, dum-dum.
Well, who's it with?
It was with LiveX.
They're trying to say LiveX Live.
But that's what you did buy it through.
That's what you bought the pay-per-view through.
But I don't think it was LiveX Live that had to pay these creators.
I'm pretty sure it was social gloves that is required to pay the creators so it's like it's not live x live is like the streaming partner of the exactly
they're like the distributor right so they're distributing content that's all they do yeah
there's discrepancies between how much live x live said they they actually sold and social
gloves thinks they sold so that's where there's's beef now. Got it. I mean, I got to be honest.
Dave, like you said, LiveXLive is a publicly traded company.
You can't fudge pay-per-view numbers.
They are what they are.
Their whole company would be fucked if they lied about this.
And why would they make that bet on like a few million dollars?
And then I got all this stuff i don't care about
but good we put in extra material it's this stuff um so that well it's fascinating we'll see what
happens and and i'll give gruen team gruen and team josh uh the credit the first ones to call
it gruen still in the news and we should have probably tried to get him is he there should
have just we should have just asked for him to come on. I know. I don't know why we didn't.
Because he and Bryce
go at it.
They're going back and forth.
I guess there's videos
attached with the tweets.
What's the best way
to summarize this fight
between Gruen and Bryce?
I would say
it's like
he... Gruen and Bryce? I would say it's like he
Gruen was
working with all of us
because we all ended up getting fight offers. There was like
three of us that got fight offers, right?
So, like Gruen said, I mean
he's been saying this kind of from the beginning
but he was talking about my offer with
a guy and it started off with like
$500,000 and in the span of two minutes
we brought it up to $2.5 million on the phone call and we with like $500,000. And in the span of two minutes, we brought it up
to two and a half million dollars on the phone call. And we were like, all right, that's, that's
weird. That's a little sus that in negotiation in three minutes, we brought it up $2 million.
Like that doesn't happen. So when we got the contract, Michael, uh, Michael was redlining
it a bunch. And he, he, it was just like, there was weird wording in the contracts about people getting paid and it not being like a guarantee and so on and so forth.
So anyways, he was trying to help out Bryce.
And when he went and talked to people that were running the event about Bryce's contract, he was like, I want Bryce to get some sort of guarantee.
This is ridiculous.
Like you're pretty much banking on the fact that Bryce is going to sell,
even if he sells 200,000 tickets alone,
you're banking on the fact
that all these other creators
are going to sell 400,000, 300,000.
That's unfair to Bryce
because he's going to bring all this attention to the event
and still not end up getting paid.
That's fucked up.
So what ended up happening is someone
or somebody went and talked to Bryce
after Michael was saying that.
And I was like, besides Michael, so like I'm going to vouch for him on this a hundred
percent. Like I heard him helping out, uh, Bryce on the deals. I was like there for the phone
cause I was there for the, uh, whatever. But, uh, Bryce ended up hearing that Michael was like,
someone went and was like, it was shit talking. He was saying you couldn't sell any tickets,
blah, blah, blah. And I'm pretty sure that person was probably just saying that to hype up bryce and get him like pumped up
to sell tickets but then that's what started this like gruen and bryce clash but then bryce brought
it up when we were on the tv show of sway so the problem with that was is michael was like under
nda shit or it's like he couldn't go and expose other people that are there if he told the full truth, because
then other people are getting thrown under.
So then Michael was just like, oh shit,
I kind of got to, like, speak
but jump around certain shit and not
really say my truth. So that's
why he wasn't, like, able to talk a bunch about the
event. Josh, there's no such thing as my truth.
It's called the truth.
And now he's here. What? From the heavens.
From the fucking just, where did he come from? This is like Field of Dreams coming out of the corn. All of a's here. What? From the heavens. Where did he come from?
This is like Field of Dreams
coming out of the corn.
All of a sudden,
there he is.
The beautiful face, Michael.
Michael, you've been
in the news growing.
I know.
It's great, man.
So Josh just gave
the background on it.
Where are you right now
with Bryce?
We gotta get Bryce
back on the show.
I don't know where he's at.
I just exposed the truth,
put up the videos,
and this is when I'm done. I don't know where he's at. I just exposed the truth, put up the videos, and at this point I'm done.
I don't really care.
You're over it?
I was never not over it. I just was waiting for a couple weeks to get those videos out.
When it was recorded, I knew no one was going to believe me.
So, but are you
and Bryce cool right now, or are you still like...
No, he hates me.
Yeah, I was going to say, there's no way
that you guys are cool right now.
Does that put you in a weird spot, Josh? No, he hates me. Yeah, I was going to say, there's no way that you guys are cool right now. Yeah, Bryce.
Does that put you in a weird spot, Josh?
I mean, like, I guess, kind of.
It's just like, what are you going to do about it?
I just try to mend it or whatever.
I don't know.
But it was a kind of fucked situation.
Like, I think that, like I was saying like someone went and told bryce like
michael shannon on him when he wasn't i was there with michael so i think it just started from like
lies and it's just ended up growing and now it's just this like situation that's been blown up
when bryce should have just been able to realize like michael was protecting him or or they should
have just been able to have a conversation about it when it wasn't being filmed on a fucking tv show
should have just been able to have a conversation about it when it wasn't being filmed on a fucking tv show so where are we at right now with the sway boys like i feel like since i've been involved
it the house is kind of or the people have gone more their separate ways like what if are you
who would you say is like your closest with right now out of that crew the original crew um it's probably like anthony griffin like yeah
and bryce i guess and keo they're cool i fucking hang out with them i i hang out with all of them
still a little bit like no i'll hang out with every once in a while but he's always gone
he's always fucking everywhere and he's with dixie all the time so it's it's mainly
it's mainly i see anthony every day and then it's like griffin and then there's noah and dixie gonna
get like fucking married they're together like every fucking second making like funny weird
videos and he had to make some soccer videos i saw the other day just to get some street cred
back so he's not right getting like whipped around and crew's poof he's gone oh he's gone
he's out of the mate. He's just coming back.
He's back.
I was just texting Kareem if I still needed to be on
because it looks like you guys moved on to topics.
Well, you've got to watch out, Gruen.
I like you enough to be like,
don't keep engaging little sass Caleb and Ronan conversations.
That's an impossible conversation to get with.
Yeah, they're just trolling.
Those guys are professional trolls.
No, we're texting.
We're becoming friendly.
We're texting on the side.
He's like, do you want my help on the Bryce situation?
I'm like, it's funny.
Little Seth.
Yeah, I think he's hilarious.
It's an odd friendship.
I love it.
So right now, Gruen, you obviously are still working with Josh.
And who else are you like?
Obviously not Bryce.
Who else are you working with? Nobody. I work with Griffin and Josh. It's like obviously not Bryce like who else are you working
with nobody I work with Griffin and Josh it's been that way for the last year got it I was
helping Josh out a little bit I mean Bryce had a little bit in the beginning but I know he I stopped
doing that just because he was doing more and more towards like YouTube entertainment I just
kind of let him do his thing um we were fine up until the fight thing like I it's interesting I
don't know if Josh told you, but we just had breakfast yesterday
with the chairman of Live by Live,
and we talked about the whole
Bryce thing. He's like, no, you were
asking pointed questions. You're not shitting on him at all.
He told this to Josh directly.
So a lot of it comes from
a misunderstanding. I don't even know where it comes from
because the guy claimed he never
talked to Bryce.
What do you think, last question, then I'll let you go what do you think the actual they're
saying 136 139 buys i find that i don't think that's possible i think it's gonna be way higher
than that what's your guess for the actual i think it's 139 because there's a massive streaming issue
with um illegal streams it was on everyone's twitter feed it was all over tiktok how would
why would someone buy that you can go on your for you page for two seconds and get it for free i think there was
millions of views i think the fight had probably five million watchers impressions yeah but nobody
bought it not just impressions like real streams off of illegal streams but we saw streams of
hundreds of thousands of views and you know this pay-per-views are very different than what than
streamers or viewers and i don't think that had the appeal to spend the 50 bucks.
I do think it had the appeal to watch it.
I watched it.
I was someone else's stream in my room.
I'm like, I'm not paying for that shit.
Yeah, Kareem had some sort of illegal stream for us, too.
Oh, we paid for it, right?
Him and everybody else in America.
And that's just the facts.
I believe it was 136,000.
I believe that's an accurate number.
Maybe you find 5,000, give or take,
on the audit, but you think
they're going to 6X the audit?
That's crazy.
I was saying publicly,
I didn't know it was public. I said to Josh, it's crazy.
Our last rough and rowdy,
our Canseco one did 140,000.
That's crazy.
Yeah, and by the way, also,
there was a bunch of other drama behind the scenes
that nobody even noticed about.
The guy who was running it,
a guy named Paul Kaysers,
was kind of hung out to dry.
He's a super good dude and reputable.
He was the agent for Logan Paul,
and they kind of just didn't listen to him.
He was like, you've got to do paid media.
They didn't listen to him.
They allowed him $50,000 in the budget
as opposed to the millions they wanted to.
They just handled the marketing incorrectly.
When LiveXLive did paid marketing, it converted at a 30 to 80 ratio.
They just didn't listen.
When we found that Austin was actually owning it, that was the answer to everything.
That was like, okay, great.
That's why it's not run like a business.
It's run more like a social media show.
All right.
Thanks, girl.
Go back to wherever I guess you came from.
Under the bridge. I'll see, thanks, girl. Go back to wherever I guess you came from. Under the bridge.
I'll see you soon, Michael.
Addison Rae rumored to have a new
boyfriend.
Is this still in
Jack Harlow stuff?
That don't look like Jack Harlow.
Can we put up the picture
of this guy?
Yes.
MGK's guitarist. Yeah, of this guy? MGK's
guitarist.
Yeah, but he's not MGK.
Come on. Yeah, this is wild.
Right. You would think Addison is
going for MGK, not MGK's
guitarist. No, this is
not good. It's bad.
This is, wow. I mean, it is
pretty crazy.
Let me see a picture of this dude.
You're going to be a little mind blown.
Is it going to be one of those things where I'm not going to give my honest opinion because I'll feel bad?
Maybe.
Listen, you can get away.
I get.
I don't get.
I know some girls are like, oh, let me get like a weird looking guy with the red hair and the big glasses he's mgk but as in right
girls say that yeah they do i think it would if without the red hair maybe like all right
travis okay okay go to that top left travis barker doesn't have tattoos no one even fucking
looks bad that's not as bad yeah blonde hair i think the red hair is fucking it's not as it's
not as bad i mean this guy's lucky to get a six in high school.
He's dating Addison, right?
No offense to this guy.
He's a great guy.
Right.
You're being honest.
I get what you're saying.
If you take off the tattoos and the crazy look, you just have like a normal dude.
Yeah.
Well, Addison said that this isn't true.
And when we talked about the other football player, that it wasn't true.
What other football player?
Remember the soccer player.
Right.
No, I was like, okay, that makes sense.
She said on her live that when we covered it on BFFs it wasn't true.
Fine.
Good.
Good.
She said on her live to tell BFFs specifically.
I want the homecoming queen to date the quarterback of the football team.
That's the world I live in.
I get what you're saying.
But she specifically.
Whittledickers and band guys and tattoos and colored nails and fucking pierced nipples.
That's the world now.
That's the world now.
When do these guys get the girls?
I don't get it.
Right.
Are you jealous, I think?
No, I'm too old to be jealous.
I would have been lost. I was going to be jealous, I think? Is that what it is? No, I'm too old to be jealous.
I would have been lost in high school, but I wasn't pulling chicks in high school anyway,
so who cares?
Do you have any tattoos, Dave?
What?
Do you have any tattoos?
No.
You should get one.
Would you ever paint your nails? You should get a BFFs tattoo.
I'm wearing,... Speaking of our...
Oh, nice.
Those are fire.
So, the merch going on sale.
It's on sale now.
It's on sale as we speak.
Yeah, they're listening.
It might already be sold out.
It's probably already sold out.
Could be sold out as we're doing this.
They should pause this and go buy it and then come back.
Well, if they're watching the premiere right now,
then it'll probably still be available.
Yeah. So, pause the pod, go get the bathing suit, and then come back. Well, if you're watching the premiere right now, then it'll probably still be available. Yeah.
So pause the pod, go get the bathing suit,
and then come back.
Yes.
Do it quick.
Fast.
Britney Spears.
What?
So Britney Spears spoke for the first time
about her conservatorship
and how she wants to be freed from her father.
She was forced to take lithium,
currently has no control over her life.
Scary shit, the free Britney.
Holy cow, yeah.
I mean, it's wild.
Now, this is one of those age
things like britney was baby hit me one more time like that was a lot of young young fellas out
there it's like oh i like i have a dick like the first time it's like what's going on with
britney spears right right is is she just not in your wheelhouse because you know she definitely
is she definitely is she is yeah oh i would have thought you missed that whole wave a little bit.
No.
I mean, she wasn't.
I don't think she was probably at her peak when I was.
Like, when was Baby Hitman?
That was like a long.
Were you even born, Josh?
But, dude, Britney Spears is a, like.
She's just an icon.
I feel like she's generational.
Generational star.
100%.
I'm looking right now, trying to find out when Baby Hit Me One More Time came out.
It's Hit Me Baby One More Time.
What am I saying?
Baby Hit Me.
Baby One More Time, official video.
Came out in 1998.
625 million views.
Yeah, Josh wasn't even born yet.
No, I wasn't.
I wasn't.
I was...
1998. I wasn't born yet either. I wasn't even born yet. No, I wasn't. I wasn't. I was. 1998.
I wasn't born yet either.
I wasn't even conceived yet.
I was.
I think I was just conceived.
Not sad.
Little Huddy's unreleased music.
Little Huddy claims he has 296 unreleased songs.
By comparison, Taylor Swift has only released 179 songs in her entire career.
Let's watch a clip of Lil Hottie teasing his music.
That's a big album.
Huge.
Imagine if he released it as one album.
Oh, 290.
I mean, he's probably not wrong.
Why would he lie about that?
I've never seen Huddy do anything, but I respect his game.
What the fuck?
He's killing it he still gets
views he still gets likes he's doing his shit it's wild like what was that video what do you mean you
have 296 unreleased songs the power there's 296 different songs in there or do you think it's like
there's 296 audio files yeah do you think it's cap or no cap there's like a good version of one song
and then there's like the mastered version and then it's like the no cap there's like a good version of one song and then there's like the mastered
version and then it's like the rough draft different verse and then it's like maybe there's
like a hundred songs i don't think there's 296 bangers that'll be something right they can't
they can't all be bangers or else he would have no yeah at least like one song right he has two
i think i know i think vampire one and the new one with Char Char.
I feel like it's been like three songs.
We have this guy, Glenny Balls, and he's just like I've described him.
He's like a manatee.
He just floats through life, like bumping into things and moving,
like never out of sorts, never under pressure, just floats.
You know, until he hits something, floats a different way.
But I always envisioned I wanted him to be like a private investigator for me,
like he throws on a Hawaiian shirt and just tracks people.
I would like for him to track Little Huddy for like a week
and just see what that guy does.
That would be awesome.
I wonder.
Little Huddy wouldn't even look twice at Glenny Balls.
I may start doing that.
We could have his address.
He'll be like paparazzi.
Balls in just a Hawaiian shirt.
With a bowl of ice cream.
Eating hamburgers.
Waiting.
I feel like that's super invasion of privacy, man.
Not when it's Balls.
Yeah, no.
He's a good guy.
Good guy.
When Balls are coming into your space?
Glenny Balls would end up drinking with him.
They'd end up best friends.
He's just a friendly guy.
All right, fair.
Balls are in your space.
It's not weird.
Yeah.
All right.
We've got a couple videos to react to here.
Griffin loves Zumba.
Oh, I saw this.
Oh, I feel like I've seen this video before.
So I came here today with 305 Fitness Dance Class.
I'm gonna let y'all watch me get my ass kicked.
Clap it.
Last time.
Here we go.
Let's go.
Crush it.
Bro, this is my friend.
It's so sad.
The only guy there.
I mean, what is the, why did he go there?
What was the purpose of going there?
Was that an ad?
It had to have been.
Maybe it was a little something.
That has to be an ad.
Why else would he do that?
Sometimes it's hard to be Griffin's friend.
I respect him.
I never know what he's going to do.
You never know what he's going to do.
He's like, should I hit this golf ball?
And that'll be like one of his things.
He'll be like.
He goes from like golfing on the course and catching sharks to just.
Twerking with moms.
Just twerking with moms.
It's like who.
Very versatile.
What does this guy not do?
What does he not do?
Gotta respect it.
Bryce Hall has the best comeback.
Oh.
Who said it? the front, please.
You have a whole
dance floor.
Who said it?
Right here, baby.
Everyone, everyone,
everyone, where
the security at?
I'm so mad.
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Watch out.
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Everyone to the
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Just get like fucking harassed by dudes all the time.
Let's skip along.
The Diplo thing's dumb.
Addison's squeaky window.
This is kind of funny.
Do we have any reaction to Bryce joining OnlyFans?
Would you be?
Stop item beauty.
Okay.
Would you be a subscriber on Bryce's
shop item beauty.com
I love you guys
my windows are squeaky
they are
uh oh
let's get that fixed
get that fixed
you have to get that fixed
it's like
oh no shit
man thanks
Bryce is on OnlyFans
yeah well
I don't
I don't think
so I think he like
I think he tweeted about it or something like that as a joke.
It was him and Taylor because they were talking about how they just lost their fight.
So it's like, where do they go after this?
Got it.
So I think they made a joke like, oh, we're going to start an OnlyFans.
Got it.
Justin Bieber asks fans for privacy.
I feel like I've seen...
I mean, he does this every other week.
Yeah, I know.
I feel it's such a normal thing
this is my home you know what i mean this is where i live and i don't appreciate you guys being here
you guys can be anywhere.
This is my home.
This is where I...
You know, at the end of the night when you come home,
you want to relax.
This is my space to do that.
So I'd appreciate it if you guys could be here.
Fuck you.
I respect the girl going in for the hug after he's like...
That was bold.
He just ignores everything he said.
Yes, it's like doesn't listen to a word he just said for the last 30 seconds so how about that hug let me get that
hug babes that's tough like that's tough you never get a second to relax but i mean uh given that
speech ain't gonna change it he's what it's never gonna change like famous people you're justin
bieber you gotta live with it yeah it sucks what's. What's the game that we have? Should we play it?
Well, we don't really need to
because we played with Jeffrey.
I think that's everything then.
So again, a reminder,
the merch, we got Brianna a whole
and you didn't like the original.
We saw the pictures.
We were ready to put them out.
Well, it was a picture of me in my room
with the bathing suit on.
I was like, no way.
We gotta do better than that.
So buy it.
The bikinis. Get them. Bucket that. So buy it. The bikinis.
Get them.
Bucket hats.
Bathing suit.
Summer is here.
Fourth of July is here.
Okay.
All right.
BFF, Jeffrey Starr.
My first question.
Okay.
Hi.
Hi.
Hi, everyone.
We said the hi's off camera.
We did.
And we color coordinated.
Yes, we matched for this.
How did we get you for this?
To me, you're like a huge personality.
And I know a little bit about a lot, but a little.
Is this like your kind of return in terms of doing interviews?
I would say so a little bit.
I also have a lot of respect for you,
but I normally don't do interviews.
Okay, yeah.
So that's, I guess that's what I'm driving at.
You're very transparent.
So to that effect, I'm surprised you're sitting here.
So you know who I am, the BFFs. Yes.
Okay, I would have never dreamed that.
And so I have a shipping fulfillment center
and I have a lot of clients.
I do like Ninja's Merch And Max Holloway
And all these people
And my employees
They live for you
They said
If you don't do that
We're all quitting
Like they're obsessed
With your podcast
And I was like
Okay let's go
So how long
How long have you been
Aware of the BFFs
Or like me
Or whatever
Whatever it is
How long have I known about it
Yeah
Like I would say
Six months
Okay so we're A little bit new Yeah. Like I would say six months.
I'm a little new.
Okay, so we're a little bit new.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
I'm a newbie, not gonna lie.
Because I've actually been doing like internet shit.
Okay.
Maybe not internet shit,
like almost as long as you.
Like I started Barstool in 2004 as a newspaper.
Wow, okay.
Slowly morphed like,
I'm sure you've crossed paths
to like the Jenna Marbles of the world.
Oh yeah.
So I hired her at a tanning salon.
She like worked for me and nobody knew. So forever. Oh, yeah. So I hired her out of a tanning salon. She worked for me.
Wow.
Okay.
Forever.
So much history.
It is.
Wow.
Yeah.
And actually got introduced to you probably at the height of your power.
Okay.
When it was like you had the makeup brand and everything.
Everybody's watching.
Yes.
And now you're sitting with us on the couch, which isn't necessarily worse,
but here we are.
A full let's say.
Yes.
All right.
A new world.
So, you know, there's so much to go over with you.
Dive in.
I know.
There's so much.
This is the thickest pack we've had all day for you.
But imagine being on the internet since you're 16.
There's a lot.
Like you say 2004, that's when I started like going on the internet a lot.
I graduated high school early in 2003.
And then I just never turned back so yes my mind's all over the place because I'm so fascinated your career is like an interesting one even a guy like Josh I like you to me and I could
be wrong were one of the first people that I was aware of who took the fame from the internet and
put it directly into a business yes yes I don't ever want to toot my own horn, but I kind of coined the internet celebrity term.
Absolutely.
I would agree with that.
And made, I mean, we have a sheet here
that says you may be the richest of all the influencers.
I think because of my brand.
Because they always do the YouTuber's top whatever earnings,
and I think it's because of my brand
and my investments, absolutely.
YouTube makes good money, but it's not my job. But it's a's because of my brand and my investments absolutely right YouTube makes good money but it's not well it's not it's not my job but it's but it's a big part of my life it is
look at it sub job well we're talking we're talking about cosmetics right now right when
you said it's right which is what I was going at the brilliant so it's been a crazy journey so
basically seven years ago I had five hundred dollars so it's been seven years ago yeah oh
so was there a point when you were almost putting up like an act of like living a bougie lifestyle?
Absolutely.
Fake it till you make it.
Oh, my God.
When I had zero money, I would fake it and make it work back then.
Just buy a fake designer or what was it?
Never bought fake.
Okay.
But I would have like one or two bags and really wear them out.
Use them out.
Right, right.
Or I would go to other people's places.
I would dress up in their stuff.
So I used to do makeup for a lot of celebrities.
And I would dress up in their closets and take pictures and then post them like it was my Chanel.
That's fun.
Before I could afford anything.
Isn't that crazy?
I love it.
So what was the moment, if you were being on MySpace since 2003, I had MySpace as well.
Okay, rest in peace.
Didn't they try to bring that back with like Timberlake and stuff?
Yes, and it was awful still and no one wanted it and we were all kind of past that moment.
YouTube 2006, you join it.
When did everything start?
So I started YouTube a long time ago as a whim.
I probably used it for like a year.
And then it went dead and silent for years.
And then I tried to be a pop star.
I saw that sign.
And it failed miserably.
There was a lot of odds against me.
I think it was the wrong timing.
So when I fired them all, and we're all good now.
We've made peace.
But when I let go of everyone, I had nothing.
I was in my little two-bedroom apartment in North Hollywood with a dream.
Do you still have a good
relationship with Akon?
Yeah.
We're so really close.
He called you the nice lady Gaga.
That's a bold title.
That offended people back then.
They got mad.
I mean, to be honest,
I'm like a little bit
of a little monster,
so almost that offends me.
Yeah, it's okay.
She's like as talented
as they come.
But how cool is that
he discovered her and T-Pain
and made so much money from them.
I didn't know that even, so maybe I'm not as lost.
Akon finds so many people, though.
He knew, but it just wasn't in singing that we'd be successful.
Okay, so continue along with the journey.
There was something there.
Yeah, so I met someone that loaned me a little bit of money,
and I had a little bit of savings.
I had $500 in my checking, a little bit of my savings,
and I banked it all on three liquid lipsticks in 2014.
So, and was that new liquid lipstick?
Was that, like, new at that time?
It was newer on the market.
You wear a lot of makeup, you enjoy beauty.
So, like, back then when I launched it, there was probably, like, one or two brands that had a formula like that.
It was really, like, new.
And it was kind of like, hmm.
So I brought those to my lab and I said hey
make my formula better
because these are all
awful and drying
and they gave me
the best formula
it was the right place
the right time
what year was this?
2014
yeah
okay so
that's all it took
was three
yeah and I had a really
good cult following
well that's what I'm asking
and there's always been
a lot of activity
I was one of the most
followed people in my space
and it was like
I just always carried over.
So that's what I was asking. To me, without
knowing the actual products, I don't use makeup.
I got the vibe from you. You could have sold
shit in a
thing, but you had such a loyal
cult following.
And for being a makeup artist since I
was probably about 12 years old,
I knew formulas. I knew how
to create a good product.
So all of my stuff, even if people hate me, they still wear my makeup.
So how big was your audience then at the time when you launched this?
God, that was a while ago.
So much has happened.
Not that big.
Like how much did you have on YouTube?
Okay, so when I launched my brand, I didn't do YouTube.
It had been dormant for seven years. So that's what I'm confused about. So it was Instagram. Instagram, Okay. This is when I launched my brand. I didn't do YouTube. It had been dormant for seven years.
So that's what I'm confused.
So it was the MySpace.
So it was,
it was,
it was Instagram.
So Instagram.
Okay.
And you had like millions,
two million.
It was,
it was a few,
like probably two million.
So it's not that big.
So,
so this,
you must have had a super cult following.
Yes.
Or the product was that good.
I can't,
like if you had to,
uh,
the product went viral.
It really did.
Right.
The formula, it really spread.
Liquid lipstick was huge.
Yes.
And it's still, now that the masks are coming off,
it's now our number one seller again.
So are you saying, in a way, if somebody...
It mattered, obviously, because you have this audience,
but if Joe Schmo invented this lipstick,
that would have been...
It didn't matter?
Was that good of a product?
I believe so.
But it was the way I marketed it.
It's the following, the the formula yeah and then you just continue to
ascent after this basically yes and then i discovered um youtube again and i really and
i had never done tutorials or shown behind the curtain of what i was doing so until i started
youtube no one had ever seen me without makeup yep it was very was very, like, my thing, like, my mystique.
And then I just pulled the curtain back and showed it all.
People loved it.
Yeah.
You showed full glam.
And then the channel went from 100,000 followers to 10 million and so fast.
And it just kept growing.
Did you collab?
Who was the first person you collabed with on YouTube?
Oh, Nikki Tutorials.
Oh, okay.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
That was the first big person.
First collaboration?
Right.
Was she bigger than you at the time?
Yeah.
Oh, so you must have been like, fuck yeah.
Because she did that.
Remember the flower of makeup where she split her face in half with nothing and then full?
That was iconic.
And it went viral.
And that's how I discovered her.
And I was like, wow, she's so talented.
And she just like, come on.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's so sweet.
You got lucky.
That's awesome.
Okay.
And then I just, yeah, then I just kept growing and growing.
But it also makes so much lifestyle, my relationship, my dogs, my life, showing the business.
It wasn't just like.
It's very personal.
Oh, yeah.
I showed a lot.
Too much.
What?
We've talked before.
Because like we did this podcast.
I want to get Josh's TikTok.
He wanted to get our older.
But like the internet to me is like the ocean.
You never know.
I remember the first time I saw a video.
It was with a girl.
And she's like, you don't know who that is?
I'm like, no, I don't.
It's not my demo
Right I would do
Then at like
The height of it though
Like what percentage
Would you say of like
Girls were watching
His tutorials
And the house videos
And all at the height
You were YouTube
Yeah every girl
I grew up on YouTube
Was such a massive trend
And there weren't that many
Yes there wasn't
Now there's so many
You were like
The Jeffree Star,
the makeup guru.
And I think COVID kind of
took out beauty a little bit.
Because what are you getting ready for?
Yeah, people aren't going out.
People aren't getting ready.
It got more personal.
It did.
No, for sure.
All right, continuing along.
So rise, rise, rise.
Yep.
And then there's a fall, essentially.
There's a lot of falls along the way even before
the rise but yeah so if you are basically i guess doing your own autobiography yeah because you took
a step back right you kind of went out of the thing you've been out cancel culture's going like
how do you look at i just keep it going like i feel like i'm an internet cockroach and i just
think i'm uncancellable i How are you going to cancel me?
What have I done so horribly where I need to go away and kill myself?
What is it that people, what is it that people have to cancel you?
But you have apologized, no?
What is it?
Everything, yeah.
So I think whenever moments happen or there's feuds or fights,
people always bring up the same old things that I've addressed so many times
and they just love to like use that as the ground of,
he should go away forever.
So if you don't feel like you've done anything that bad, why do you apologize? And they just love to use that as the ground of, he should go away forever.
So if you don't feel like you've done anything that bad,
why do you apologize?
Oh, I have done some crazy shit.
Yeah, I've said some crazy shit.
I've done some crazy shit.
And I've made amends with that.
But I think to keep mentioning it every six months,
it's really old.
So are you back in the flow right now?
Fully flowing.
You are? Are you ready to get going?
Yeah. Everything's back.
I never really stop.
I took a little break to really, really evaluate life,
but I always just keep it moving.
So do you still have haters than the same people coming at you every time?
Or no?
I think last year there was so much hate,
then it kind of just like all fizzled.
I think it was TikTok.
It was a new wave.
TikTok really fucked up the whole case of culture.
That's so real.
It's TikTok.
Most people that had
known who I am
and seen everything
and heard what I had to say
understood it.
They saw apologies
and then it was a whole
new wave of people
that I had never
experienced before.
And how do you deal
with that?
Does it get,
I mean,
what you just said,
is it almost like...
I'm so transparent.
I'm so jaded.
Like...
Yeah.
No.
So it doesn't, but it does if you're doing the.
Yeah, in the moment when there's a lot and it's really intense,
it can really wear you out for a minute.
And then it's like, life moves on.
Like, were you scared that your whole career was going to go to shit
from how crazy it got?
Yeah, was there ever a point where you were like,
holy fuck, my company could crash, my, like, everything.
Yeah, 100%.
Those are real, real fears I don't think people ever want to admit my, like, everything. Those are, yeah, 100%. Those are real, real fears
that I don't think people
ever want to admit to,
and especially when I have
hundreds of employees now.
100%.
I started with.
You're putting food
on people's tables,
essentially,
by giving them jobs.
From everyone,
from security teams
to the people that are shipping
and picking and packing
the makeup
to the factories
that are making it.
You know, the chain goes long.
It goes back.
Yeah.
That's a scary thought.
It is.
It didn't happen
like this is a tough question i don't even know how to answer someone asked me
like great if you could go back and change like what if there's one thing that you could change
oh okay like do you know what it would be like yeah keep my fucking mouth shut
but you can't that's your brain yeah i know but i think sometimes the internet i let them
expect me to always respond.
Instead of sometimes, I would handle things with people in private.
And then months later, they would bring it up.
Or start a whole new thing for attention or views.
And I'm like, we already handled this a year ago?
This is so weird.
So it just became like, everyone was coming for me for a minute.
Do you think that's just because of success?
Yeah, absolutely.
It was Jeffrey and Shane at the same time. They were together. is coming for me for a minute. Do you think that's just because of success? Yeah, absolutely. So it's a jealousy thing?
It was Jeffrey and Shane
at the same time.
It was,
they were together.
And he's MIA right now,
right?
Yeah, he's in Mexico
right now,
sipping on a martini.
And are you still
close with him?
Yeah, we went out
last week, yeah.
Do you know when
he's coming back?
Is he coming back?
I saw something posted,
I thought.
Yeah, like I think
that he's worked so hard
and had such a long career.
He's not just going to
throw away his YouTube channel.
He's had so much success.
So he's working on things, but there's no definitive date of like,
he's coming back in the fall.
Is he taking a break because he feels like he fucked up
and he needs to reevaluate or learn a little bit?
I'm going to speak for him, yes.
Absolutely.
Okay.
And what was the criticism of him?
That's where I sound like an idiot.
What happened?'s so much
Bringing back the past
And making it
Trying to seem like
It's all relevant
At the same time
It was like
Videos from 2008
On YouTube and stuff
So basically
Old videos
Yeah there was a time
When everybody was
Some like weird stuff
Going on in the video
Whatever
Yeah absolutely
There was weird things
Jokes that aren't funny
Yeah
The biggest thing
Was with the Will Smith family, I think.
Yeah.
It was him talking about Will Smith's daughter.
Really?
Is that awkward?
No.
No?
No, they've never talked shit about me.
You didn't do anything to them.
It wasn't you.
They're cool.
Yeah, I think that's where you just got crushed.
I respect them.
It was such an old video when it got brought up too, though, no?
Yes.
Like Jeffrey said, it was everything at once brought together.
Yeah, it was a combo.
But they were years apart.
So it was like, look, Shane did all of these
things, let's cancel him. And then they brought
Jeffrey with him. Oh yeah. After our
second documentary, they dragged me right in.
And that's okay. Shit happens.
Shit happens.
It definitely, I mean, it happens
for the higher you are,
the more target on your back.
You are the heart of your fault too.
It's very true.
I thought you went away more.
You're saying, I mean, obviously it's COVID,
so people are doing different stuff,
but you're saying you kind of,
you weren't as affected by it, if I'm reading this,
as maybe I think someone else.
Yeah, other people may not want to hear that,
but yeah, I mean, it affected me mentally
and I really have worked on myself a lot.
But I just kept, the show always has to go on to me.
Yeah.
When I'm done is when I'm done.
You can't just close down production, right?
No, absolutely not.
Like you were talking about that, like with the jobs, you can't just, what, shut down and tell all these people,
oh, sorry, you don't have a job for a few months.
Exactly.
What about...
There was a lot on the line, and there were so many launches.
Obviously, products made a year in advance in the beauty world,
which a lot of people didn't know until I unveiled the curtain of my documentary with Shane.
And we had so many launches planned,
I couldn't just disappear forever.
You know what I mean?
Did you have to push back on anything?
Yes.
When all of that was happening?
So you have launches coming eventually?
Yes.
Okay.
Absolutely.
Oh, yeah.
Back at it.
But even, I always say this,
and I know it upsets some people,
there's a lot of people that even hate me
and they really love my makeup.
So the makeup's doing really well.
If I was in financial troubles,
I would be like, oh, fuck.
But yeah, I lost millions of followers last year.
My brand, killing it.
So do you care about that?
Thank you, Jesus.
Do you care about the losing the followers?
I used to, 100%.
It was a humbling experience
and there's still a really great audience out there,
but at the peak, it was so crazy. I kind of asked my higher power to slow it down i didn't know it'd be being
canceled the 10th time right but um yeah very humbling yeah the makeup still okay we just
we have to ask this because um she was here right before nikita dragon we said you're coming up
what's there is there something? She doesn't love you.
Okay.
Why not?
That's what it said.
I have no idea.
Yeah.
Her words,
some people don't need
to be friends.
Yeah.
And she said,
ask you.
You crossed a line
and she didn't say
what it was,
but there was a line crossed
and she thinks you don't
need to be friends anymore.
Some people aren't meant
to be friends.
But didn't give us any more.
I mean,
I can respect that.
I haven't seen her in years.
Yeah.
She said that.
Yeah. So how that. Yeah.
So how did you guys know each other?
Like, what's the story there?
Just being in the beauty world,
having similar friends,
and then our similar friends
really backstabbed me,
and then it exploded
into the biggest beauty drama
on the planet years ago.
That's with James?
No, that was with Manny, Laura,
and that whole thing.
Okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, the internet labeled it
Dramageddon.
So fucking ridiculous.
Yeah, Which is funny
And that's such a big term
In the beauty world now
But yeah
It was a lot of people
Had backstabbed me
And it was all revealed
And it all just
Trinkled down
And then it was
It was a war
Everything about you
On camera
I assume
Like if you're friends
With somebody
The odds are
That people know
Who it is
Because everything
Is transparent
See that's hard
That is super
And in the early
days i i always put nikita on my channel i pumped her up i think i gave her a little push and i
think people with egos never want to admit that right like i helped you out admit it it's all good
we're all we're all in the same space but no i can't see us being friends anymore there's also
that element with anything if everything's on camera and and you're as big as you are,
or anybody, it's how we see with TikTok,
it's like, at what level do you start thinking this person's kind of like using me?
You're right, that's a fine balance.
Are they my friend or are they my friend
when it's convenient for them?
Correct.
Is this just a business relationship?
So when people are disloyal off camera,
that's what I learned from being friends
with a bunch of YouTubers.
That they're disloyal like... Absolutely. bunch of YouTubers. That they're disloyal.
Absolutely. Second camera turns off, they're a different person.
Yeah.
Fuck you, Jeffrey. I think a lot of people, they join
YouTube and then they get successful really quickly
and the money starts pouring in and the views and the attention
and they don't know how to handle it.
This headline,
and we have our guys who put together
a lot of headlines. I don't mean to put it across.
But no, why are people afraid of Jeff?
Do you still think people are afraid of you to like work with you or like?
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, I think that when you're so controversial sometimes, which am I?
Maybe.
I don't know.
I wouldn't want to piss you off.
Do you think?
Yeah, I feel like I'd be scared to be on your back.
Controversial?
Yes, 100%.
I've heard that a lot.
Yeah.
Why?
Like, because he's going to air you out publicly?
There's nothing awful?
Like, what?
What makes...
Maybe.
I don't know.
He...
You fuck it up on Twitter.
Like, if you cross Jeffrey, he's like, okay, I'm not just going to sit back and let it
happen.
I'm going to, like, air your shit out.
I like that.
Yeah, because I feel like so many people...
Yeah, that's what people do.
Yeah, that's what people do.
People paint in fake narratives, and then when someone comes out with the truth, it's like, oh, okay.
So I've dealt with that a lot.
A lot of my best friends publicly have turned on me,
whether jealousy, envy, I don't know why,
and then I've had to, like, respond.
Yeah.
You know, because if you don't respond,
but the new me, I don't respond anymore.
It's exhausting.
The only way not to respond for me would not.
Yeah, and that was my biggest thing.
It was so hard not to look.
So I don't look anymore.
Yeah.
You can't.
I enjoy and live my life and I post on DoMe.
You've looked for too long.
It's been years.
Yes.
Done looking.
Did Gucci give you that or do you have to buy it?
This is not a sponsored ad.
I bought this.
You bought it.
You know Gucci doesn't give clothes away?
Even to Beyonce or anyone? Gucci Mane doesn't get clothes. You know Gucci doesn't give clothes away? Even to Beyonce or anyone?
Gucci Mane doesn't get clothes.
Gucci Mane doesn't get clothes from Gucci?
No, he pays full price.
Come on.
I swear on my life.
Unless it's a collaboration.
He was just the face of Gucci for the first time ever for, I think it was Perfume with
Jared Leto and Lana Del Rey.
And I'm sure they gifted him some stuff, but prior, they don't give anyone anything.
I respect that.
Louis Vuitton gets people.
Yes.
He's Louis Vuitton royalty. Yeah, I was about to say.
Who would have thought?
Walk me through that.
It's like you just go to the front door and there's a gift
or you have to call and be like, I'm interested in that
or all the new stuff. Or was it like you
shop there all the time and then they notice you?
He had a bag that said LV. I thought it actually said
live and we're in Miami. I'm like, that is
that's all I am.V, I thought it actually said live and we're in Miami. I'm like, that is, that's all I am.
I went from having one purse
to being the number one
Louis client in America.
I don't know why
and it's not something
to brag about.
I just love fashion so much
since I was little
and I never thought.
If you saw the vault
of his bags.
I never thought I'd be able
to afford any of this stuff.
It's honestly crazy.
It's scary.
So I am probably
one of the biggest
Louis collectors.
I'm the only customer
that they've given
their own monogram
color to and created
pieces for
which is really cool
for my fashion
unreal
that's crazy
can people buy it
or is it just unique
for you
yeah
there's been A-listers
that have asked for
hey we want this pink
and they're like no bro
what list do you
consider yourself
that's a great question
what do you mean
you just said A-listers
pink yet
oh
you love pantheon
of celebrities.
It's such an interesting way to look at it.
I'm going to shave myself. I say D-list.
D? I don't know.
What about at the height
when you were as top?
There's no way you're at least B.
Maybe B-minus.
You wouldn't put internet people
just in the category.
If Leonardo DiCaprio is an A, I think everyone can agree he's an A.
Yeah, I think people think A is like huge
musicians or actors.
But then someone like Addison Redd
who's starting to step into mainstream,
is she an A-lister? Is she a B-lister?
Where would you put her? I think she's a B+.
Yeah. Well on her way to A.
I think the times are changing. I think social media
people are starting to become A-listers. Totally.
The TikTok guys are like boy bands now.
Yeah.
Scary.
I agree.
Yep.
What, is there, and again, these are questions for us.
If you were conducting the interview to yourself and we get out of here, I don't like being soft because I feel like it's a real,
is there a question that people can be like, hey, Dave, why didn't you ask him that?
Like, we want to know this about him.
Right. I feel like everything is so aired out at this point i don't
know can you think of one like maybe the kanye shit talk about that that's funny oh my god true
that it is funny that people say did you hook up with cause he absolutely you trolled it though
and it you fed into it Yeah It was awesome For a day
And then I was like
This is actually
I didn't know it was
Going to be so big
Because imagine
You just wake up
And there's a text from your mom
Are you fucking me
Are you fucking me
And I'm like
Huh
I was like mom
Watch your mouth
And I had no idea
And then I
Open up the laptop
And I go on Twitter
And I'm like
Oh
And then it's like
A girl that licks toilets
On TikTok
That created it
I think it's funny It girl that licks toilets on TikTok that created it.
I think it's funny.
It's humorous.
So how did it start?
How did this rumor start?
A girl that licks toilets.
Just a random. Yes.
They're both living in Wyoming.
It's the coincidences of our lives.
I live in Hidden Hills.
They live down the street from me.
And then you both end up in Wyoming.
I live in Wyoming, but he's six hours away or whatever their place is.
It's so far away.
What was the Instagram caption you did?
That's when people were like, it's real.
Oh, I saw about Sunday service.
Sunday service with the dove.
And that's like.
That's awesome.
That is so funny.
If people are going to think this, whatever, I'll play into it.
But no, I like more of the taller.
Are you friends with him?
No.
Oh, so there's no.
Nothing.
Once, I think.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was at Kim K's house for a beauty event.
He's too short for me
I'm not into that
This guy
No, it's all enough how tall do you think what's what's not tall enough not well you're tall
I'm six foot. So I least need someone six three. Yeah, it says you like NBA guys
What's this mean? I mean? NBA guys reach out
to you? A lot of NBA players
and rappers, yes. But I have a
code where I'm never going to out them.
And a lot of them have threatened to murder me if I ever say their names.
Jesus. The sex
is great. The names are invisible.
How do they reach out to you?
How do they do that? They DM me.
If you had the password to my phone, you would shit yourself.
But that is like crazy.
Unless they just know that because that's crazy.
Because what if that's a huge risk just to do that if they haven't talked to you yet and you haven't.
Right.
But I've never added anyone and they know I'm trustworthy.
That's it.
So it's like a community.
Do you think they hear from like friends or like they hear from community?
They hear from my VA?
Well, it has to.
Right?
Maybe.
Because you can't just send that blind because if you were Going to do something And they didn't want it
Out there
So it has to be
Like word of mouth
What about this one
This ex
You aired his
He robbed you
He used you
Yeah
You know what's funny
We're cool now
You are
Yeah I think that
Forgiveness is really important
I think the old me
Was so bitter
And didn't want to
Ever accept sorries
But if I wanted people
To forgive me
How can I not
Forgive others
Is this the recent ex That's very true Is this the most recent ex What are we talking about Ever accept sorry, but if I wanted people to forgive me how can I not forgive others?
Is this the most reason I don't know his name what was his name Andre Andre? Yeah, he robbed you um
He didn't return a few things
I want them back and then they never come back. It's okay. It's not about the money.
It was just about, you know.
Principal of it.
Yeah, you kind of care about someone and they act shitty, but.
Right, right.
He apologized.
We're cool.
It's all good.
That's good.
So you never touched alcohol
or any drugs besides weed?
No, and no one believes me
because I used to tweet about,
you know how you tweet about
and make shit up when you're little
about, I have a Jack Daniels bottle
and we're about to go to the club.
I've never tried alcohol.
That's fucking crazy. But you like to ses the club I've never tried alcohol That's fucking crazy
But you like
You like to sesh
I've never tried
Oh my god
I'm the biggest stoner
On the planet
Fucking love it
Yeah
That's strange
Why would you try weed
But not other stuff
I
You wanna know
Cause my family's
All losers
Sorry guys
They're all addicts
They're
I'm the only one to
Make it and be
Remotely successful
So you came from
A house of alcoholics
Type of thing
Full alcoholics.
My dad died at five
from alcoholism.
My mom was drunk
my whole high school years.
So that makes sense
why you wouldn't
want to touch alcohol.
So they're all addicts.
I'm close to a few
family members.
But yeah,
there was a weird
conspiracy theory
that I lied about drinking.
Does that even make sense?
I feel like,
why would you lie about it?
I don't know.
It's like,
who cares if you do or not?
It's because I used to
tweet and say crazy things and hold liquor, but I've never obviously
drank.
Right.
More of like a flexing thing.
Yeah.
Right?
Like some Don Hooey or something.
When you were broke?
But I love Red Bull.
I love Shirley Temples, and I drink a lot of water.
You got to.
To get the skin good.
How are you so skinny, though?
Because you eat like shit, right?
Um, mainly.
Yeah, you're a taco.
You love Taco Bell.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You love everything.
It says you will eat icing out of a jar with a spoon.
Oh, that's my favorite thing.
Yeah, you just eat, but I don't get how you look the way you do.
I have a sugar addiction.
I mean, I got the sweet tooth to the max.
Like, candy is like my weakness.
That's my favorite thing.
That's my alcohol and my drug.
Yeah.
Yeah, it is crazy.
Because they're skinny.
If you, it is.
Yeah, if you don't have acne, that's crazy.
It also says you love pizza, huh?
We should have pizza.
I eat pizza every day.
Like, um.
Obsess with pizza.
You guys should do a pizza. I've had pizza from day. Obsessive pizza. You guys should do a pizza review.
I've had pizza from all around the world,
from Finland to Africa to New York.
So do you know why you have to do a pizza review?
I review pizza.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
So what's your favorite pizza in LA?
That's rough.
LA has awful pizza.
Prime, I think, is pretty good.
Prime?
Okay.
I like Prince Street.
Yeah, well, that's new.
They have one here now, too.
We're going to Prime tonight. No, but in LA. Well, that's new. They have one here now, too. We're going to Prime tonight.
No, but in LA.
No, that's the steakhouse
you're talking about.
But what's your favorite pizza in LA?
I don't have one.
No?
No.
I like Joe's Pizza.
It's not bad.
Prince Street is so fucking good.
Well, what's your favorite pizza ever?
There's cute places in Calabasas.
It's called The Six.
The pizza is so good.
I love black truffle,
cheese.
Oh, see that?
Yeah, I'm'm not gonna get all
fancied out no i'm like i'm like a cheese pizza or like pepperoni and cheese it's like cheese pizza
yeah what is your what do you think of since somebody's been doing this for a long time
tiktok coming up like what do you think of the state and as a broad question like
the influencers right now like you've probably seen them come up
like do you think tiktok do you think what percentage do you think these people will
stick around like in 10 how many of the big tiktokers right now will be here in three years
five years uh probably five percent i think i think it's going to be like six to ten of the
tiktokers yeah like i think it's going to be they'll be like the top five you have to be
business savvy,
financially smart.
Who is that to you?
Like, who do you respect
what they're doing right now?
This is going to sound awful.
I don't really watch TikTok.
See, that's why I thought
you were going to fight.
I know.
That's, yeah.
I'm ignorant on, like,
the big players.
I really am.
You obviously know Charlie.
Yes.
Yeah, so Charlie, Addison.
Those are just household names now.
Exactly.
So they need to,
for longevity,
they got to evolve,
switch up the brand,
and really grow their image.
Is there anybody out there
that you haven't met
that you're like,
oh, starstruck,
I want to meet that person?
Or have you done it all
at this point?
I've just worked
with so many people,
done makeup on so many people
and met,
I feel like,
everyone.
Like,
I like Jimmy Buffett.
Like,
that's my guy.
Right.
Yeah.
Okay,
if it's people like that,
like,
the author,
Stephen King.
Okay.
Okay.
That's a great,
that's a great,
that's a great,
that's a great,
I would die for that.
I bet he doesn't know
TikTok exists.
Right.
He strikes me as an eye.
He's like, oh, what's TikTok?
Yeah, exactly.
But yeah, someone like that, absolutely.
But like, off-stars and people like that.
You still get invited there?
Like, I feel like I used to see you.
I stopped going out because it was just getting too crazy.
Yeah.
But yeah, I do get invited to things.
I'm still on people's PR list.
There's some beauty brands that are really scared for me to touch their makeup or try it on anymore
But most people they don't care they're like we respect you very honest with
Absolutely, yeah, and then so then brands will get half cancelled for sending me their PR now
We're at that point. I don't
Know just a multitude of everything
thrown together.
There's not one specific reason why people are like,
cancel Jeffrey. It's like, let's just
cancel him because we hate him at this point.
Right?
There's not a specific reason.
That's some real shit, absolutely.
Interesting.
Interesting.
I know mine when they come up.
It's like, I have the head.
Oh, why is there a picture of me and my dog?
Well, you, it's because you love dogs.
Your dogs are like your kids.
How many dogs do you have?
Yeah, I love my dog.
How many dogs do you have?
I had nine.
Sadly, two passed away.
And I have seven.
Lucky number seven now.
And they're my world.
My oldest is 12.
And they're all the same breed, right?
All Pomeranians, yeah.
Wow.
Would you ever stray out?
What do you mean?
Like in a different breed?
You want to get hooked
on like the breed.
Do you still have
your dog, Dave?
Stella, no.
Stella passed.
She was 16,
16 and a half
in that photo.
Wow.
Or 16 and a half
when she passed.
That was a little bit younger.
Animals are just so precious.
Last time I was in Miami,
my fucking dog ran away.
I know that.
Yeah.
He's like,
you know,
that's my biggest fear.
I was like,
do you know the mayor of LA?
It's like,
I don't think he likes me,
but no,
I was literally at a,
I was at Miles' party.
I was at Miles' party
and I had to step outside
of the party for like two hours
stressing my dick off.
How did they get out?
So it was like
something along the lines of
there was like some fence
that broke in our backyard
or something like that
and my dog just went in.
But it was funny as hell
because my dog buddy,
I have a Siberian husky, right?
So she was just,
she loves to explore.
She loves to explore.
She was just walking
our walking path.
She was in the back
the whole time, right?
No, not in the back.
She was out walking
the street walking path
that we go on
every single day. That's awesome. Like she was just walking it on her own. That's cute. Just like living, not in the back. She was out walking the street walking path that we go on every single day.
Like she was just
walking it on her own.
Just like living,
not knowing anything
was wrong.
But yeah, funny as hell.
We got games, right?
Yeah, we do.
We have two games.
All right, let's go.
We create games
geared towards you.
Okay, so this is
the word association.
We've never played this.
Is this not?
I think this was
Fuck, Marry, Kill.
Okay, let's do
word association first.
Okay, so we're going
to put pictures up on the screen,
and you say whatever the first word that comes to your mind.
Like a roch broch thing.
Yeah, it's like...
So are we letting Jeffrey say the word first?
All right, all right.
Oh, shit.
So as soon as you say it, you'll first.
Yeah, just like what you think of when you see it.
We'll keep our words in our head.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Those are my first three words
Wow
That's like a different person
I didn't even know it was you
That is 2007
Actually that might be the word to describe that picture
2007
First word that comes to mind
Vintage
When did you start getting all tatted up?
17
I was going to say like punk rock that was yeah my word punk
So that my first tattoo is on my ankle. That's my mother's favorite least favorite getting cunt. Oh
That's your first tattoo. That was my nickname on my face. I tried to bring that word back at
Cut is fine. Just don't call it to the wrong person
Yeah, I mean that word kind of popular back then before it was really not good to use
That's why there's just like my nickname for being sassy. That's the first one
Okay vintage next oh
Come on
What is happening sad that's a sad what's in the hand
Candy I don't know what the point of this picture is
Irrelevant
That's me
Stop
No it is
That's Dave
That's fat Dave
No it's not
No it is
Giving candy to a little girl
Yeah
Dave had a glow up
I was like
Are we just seeing a random picture on the street?
That's why
That's how I thought
Irrelevant
Irrelevant
Oh my god
No I start Barstool.
First of all, the clothes are terrible,
but I used to eat, like, Panera chicken Caesar salad
for lunch every day.
They give you an apple or baguette.
I get a baguette.
I get a full baguette for lunch, pizza every day.
I never left my computer, and I looked.
The only thing offensive about the picture
is those fucking shoes.
Oh, my God.
It was quite a bit more offensive.
I don't know if I like the shirt so much.
Everything about it is offensive.
You look 10 years older than there.
I'm going to be honest, I saw that the first time I saw it, I had the same, it's like,
who is that?
It's you.
It is crazy that you look younger now than you did.
Absolutely.
It's crazy.
Yeah, age regimen button.
Okay.
Regimen button that shit.
Irrelevant.
Oh.
The locals were really upset about that one
Is this Wyoming?
Montana actually
Does this mean they're going to keep
I'm curious to see what the next photo is going to look like
Thirst trap
Is this my OnlyFans debut or what do you guys got in the vault?
Yeah what is in here?
Are you on OnlyFans?
Hell no
They ain't ready for that
I mean
Your answer of hell no is maybe.
That was a change.
Hell no.
Maybe.
But tomorrow everyone gets it.
That is so demoralizing it launches on next Thursday.
Maybe.
I think just because it would be so shocking for people, no one's ever seen me in that environment.
No.
So, we'll see.
You'd make a fat check off that.
Yeah.
If I, no, I'm like, okay, know i'm like okay go ahead all right here we go
oh seriously i don't know what the this is just an interesting game i didn't know what this is you
this is me were you arrested there is that why you're in front of the police department it's
giving me we were giving them pizza so i was doing a good it's giving me i just left my
chemical romance show and my mom got arrested
for a DUI.
Yeah.
DUI.
That's what she's serving.
I know that's a great word.
Was that a little
after a powder pop or something?
Is that why you're
wearing eye black?
Oh, it was just
a long night.
That's just your makeup?
No, no, no.
It was like we burnt
a champagne cork.
Okay, I thought
that was running makeup.
I'm like,
geez.
Oh my God.
And what's the blue drink? 7-E like, geez. Oh my God. Yeah.
And what's the blue drink?
7-Eleven?
Uh,
no,
Dunkin'.
Yeah.
I'm over it.
Fun Dunkin' though.
Ooh.
First word,
divorced.
Iconic.
Oh,
I was going to say iconic.
Divorced is your word?
that too.
Is that Stephanie,
what?
Gaston?
No, that's Kim
I can't with you
That's Miss Kim
That was when I was
At her house actually
Well I knew it was you
I still am getting to the
Divorce
Wait a minute
Divorce
That's funny
I actually
That was a good call
If anyone knows
What Stephanie Gaston
Kind of looks like
Looks like that
They used to have a show
Won't he?
Yes they did
I actually know who that is
There was a show called though
The Guest
Getting Gaston or something Yeah So how close are you with her? We're not close at all who that is. There was a show called, though. The Guest. Getting Gaston or something?
Yeah.
So how close are you with her?
We're not close at all.
Oh, that's what I was going to say, because the Kanye.
Yeah, we're acquaintances.
We respect each other's brands.
But she got canceled for sticking up for me, like years ago.
Oh, okay.
I didn't know that.
In the block.
Yeah.
Damn.
But we're cool.
We've been out here.
Oh, fucking sexy ass.
I remember this video.
Video?
I'd probably say cringy, actually.
This video was fucking something else.
What was it for?
Diss track.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mine's just a...
Mucking the bird.
Happy Pride.
Happy Pride.
Speaking of Gaga, that was the best concert
i've ever been
to pride week
at the apollo
a private concert
okay she did
full set like
it was full
it was unbelievable
this is like three
years ago
next game
fuck marry kill
cute
it's running
oh jesus
take the wheel
they really they really got on the nba wave Oh, Jesus, take the wheel.
They really got on the NBA wave.
Tristan Thompson, Kyle Kuzma, Tyler Hero.
Yeah.
So this is going to be a new one for y'all.
Kyle, fuck, and Mary killed the other two.
Bye, next.
Okay.
Wow.
Okay. I like that
So I'm killing Kyle Kuzma
By the way
You're killing that guy
Get him out of the Lakers
No Kyle
We're keeping
No not for me
Not for me
Difference of opinion
Difference of opinion
I gotta
Kill Kyle
Okay
Oh Jesus
Y'all really setting me up.
Kanye, MGK, James Parker.
If I had never met all three of them, I would say Mary Travis, because he's a great businessman and all about the family.
Right.
Fuck MGK.
And sorry, Kanye, we're going to have to kill you.
Too short.
Yeah.
Too short. Very. Yeah, MGK is And sorry, Kanye, we're going to have to kill you. Too short. Yeah. Too short.
Very.
Yeah, MGK is tall.
He is.
Yeah.
And he can smoke down.
We smoke together.
Really?
All right.
He did a pizza review last week.
He was good.
Yes.
I'm scared of the next one.
Yeah.
You guys don't know?
Oh, what would I do?
Yeah, it's just me over here.
I would.
You'd fuck them all, right?
Oh, what would I do? Well, Charles's just me over here. You'd fuck them all, right? Oh, what would I do?
Well, Charles Barker I'd kill.
What?
Easy.
Okay.
Really?
Yeah.
That's different.
I think Kanye I'd marry because he's brilliant.
He's kind.
And I feel like if you just don't want to talk to him, he doesn't want to talk to you.
So you can just be like quiet.
Right.
Okay.
We'll not talk to you for three weeks. And all free clothes and shoes right everything that's true you would get
dicked out that's true i'd probably use that for life oh okay paris hilton nicole richie and lindsey
low yeah we would this is a good one we would fuck paris marry nicole and absolutely kill lindsey
absolutely kill yeah why over it Compared to those two goddesses?
Absolutely.
Okay.
I'm going to marry Paris.
Yep.
Fuck Nicole Richie.
And then kill Lindsay.
Kill Lindsay?
See, I love Lindsay.
Oh, man.
What the hell, guys?
Are you going to kill her?
That's just because of Mean Girls.
No, I just...
Parent Trap.
What the fuck?
I mean...
I probably...
Disney.
I'd fuck Lindsay marry Paris
and kill Nicole
I think I would
same as that
unless
we'll accept that
like Lionel
is gonna play
I love Lionel
maybe he just plays
Lionel
Lionel's playing
at the wedding
it changes everything
it does
oh my god
is that it
that's it
that's a fucking episode
yeah
that's the epi
wow are we all smoking blunts now or what's happening at the club yeah Oh my god. Is that it? That's it? That's a fucking episode. Yeah. That's the epi.
Wow.
Are we all smoking blunts now?
Or what's happening? Monsters Hit Club?
Monsters Hit Club.
Do you smoke or no?
I do a little bit.
A little bit.
He dabbles.
Yeah.
Yeah, I smoke every day.
Okay, okay.
Do we get everything?
I think we did.
We did, yeah.
Is this your return?
Do you have anything you want to say to anyone?
Yeah.
Do you have anything? Or is it your anyone? Yeah. Do you have anything?
Or is it your turn?
Well, your first, like, interview.
No, it is, 100%.
I really went quiet for a minute,
and, like, I know it sounds like a crock of shit
because so many influencers and celebrities say this,
but I really wanted to work on me,
do a lot of self-reflection,
and just stay off the Internet.
Post, go away.
Stop engaging with all the bullshit
that was just unnecessary.
But did you think, like, when you work on you and all that stuff,
so that means you think there's, I guess, a little creep.
It's like people always criticize me.
It's like, fuck them.
They don't know.
I haven't really done a self-inflation because I don't think it's good.
Oh, yeah.
I didn't like looking back how I reacted to so many things
and was popping off and using emotion quickly, grabbing the phone,
and not even processing what had really happened.
Just immediate reaction, and that's what got me in trouble a lot of times.
Yeah, impulsive.
Absolutely.
That's the worst.
Too impulsive, and I just slowed the fuck down.
Got it.
Yep.
Cool.
Well, I appreciate you coming on.
Yeah, thank you.
Of course.
Thank you guys for having me.
I really appreciate it.
Yeah, it's so exciting.
All right, let's go.
Hey.
Jeffery Song, VFX.