BFFs with Dave Portnoy, Josh Richards, and Brianna Chickenfry - The Truth Behind The Sway House Breakup- BFFs Ep 27 with Whitney Cummings
Episode Date: May 5, 2021The crew is back together. We watch the latest Lil Huddy music video, get clarity on the real reason Sway broke up, and Logan Paul's reaction to Alex Cooper exposing him. Comedian Whitney Cummings com...es on the second half of the show to talk about her thoughts on the Tik Tok world.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/bffspod
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All right, BFFs.
Yes, sir.
Willis Reed game.
Do you know who Willis Reed is, Josh?
Do I know who what?
Willis Reed.
I don't think so.
He's some old school.
He's even before my time, but he's famously played for the Knicks,
and he was injured and showed up with a bum leg or something,
played like one minute.
That's what I'm doing here because I am under the weather.
You sound sick.
I am sick.
You got the little red around the nose.
Well, that's burn.
I was at the Kentucky Derby and just sat in 90.
Have you ever worn sunblock?
Well, I was in Miami for a month and then went to Kentucky for the Derby,
sat outside, is in one of the few seats that was in the sun,
and just got assassinated for six hours.
Yeah, how do you get burned in the Kentucky Derby
after you've been in Miami for a month?
I have no idea.
That shows you just how strong the sun was.
So the nose is burned, but, yeah.
You got the Iverson mentality today
you're not missing game day correct correct i love it show up and it's a well-known fact i've
been hanging out a lot with a girl so this girl sylvana and she doesn't go to sleep she just
doesn't there's a well-known fact she doesn't believe in sleep like sleep on your dad sleep
when you're dead dave needs sleep but it i think one plus one equals two in this case, that the more I don't
sleep, the more I get worn down, and old man Dave just is under the weather.
So that's where we're at with this.
All right.
Into it.
We're going to go over this quickly.
We have to quickly address it, Josh.
Big time tweet.
What do you call these things?
A tweet stream?
Thread.
Thread. Thread. Thread. Thread.
Thread.
Basically.
That makes it sound super intense.
You know, telling the world how you feel.
We talked about it.
Should we even mention it?
Because I know you want to get past this.
But how are we feeling right now after the whole debacle, I guess, is now a couple weeks
old, three weeks old, something like that.
Yeah.
No, yeah.
I'm feeling good.
I mean, I'm feeling a lot better.
I'm ready to go out a bit, maybe party a bit.
Who knows?
We'll see what happens.
Okay, so that's good.
That's good.
I saw the tweet stream.
We're going to put that all behind us.
Such a weird, hard, because our show is clearly, we like getting,
if you were in a different world if this like drama happened it wasn't
directly affecting you we'd be like oh we gotta get these people on and talk and talk yeah we'd
eat it all up yeah but then when it's actually somebody you know it's a little bit different so
i'm glad we can put this thing behind us everybody goes on their way i don't know i'll say best of
luck to them but let's just move on perfect Almost past it. How's that? Perfect.
Yes, sir.
Love it.
Okay.
It's in the past.
We have Whitney Cummings coming on the show.
We did this before.
Very funny.
Gruen versus Bryce.
So Gruen ends up in the middle of this thing every time.
Gruen pulled Griffin and Josh from the Sway reality show,
and Bryce and Gruen went at it.
We have a clip.
Let's watch the clip.
Yeah, just first things first. It's like, I love how people say
he pulled us like we wouldn't
have a choice. It was like, we chose
not to do the show. How long
had this been going on for?
The show or
the drama? The show.
The show was like, I think we were probably
a part of it for like five weeks, maybe
like four weeks and then we were like, bro, this is just wrecking so many deals.
Like this is getting people like texting us being like, you guys look like idiots.
Like it was just not good.
It was the worst idea ever.
And so did Bryce want to keep doing it?
Yeah, no, all the other boys wanted to keep doing it.
They didn't want to stop the reality show.
I mean, it was like a fat bag, right?
But for us, it was just not worth it.
Okay, so let's see the clip.
Ha, fat bags.
That was a low blow.
Why are you just staring at me like that?
Low blow, low blow.
Why are you staring at me?
Because I was asking you a question.
It would just be a respectful man thing to do to just tell me.
Big respectful man thing. We're done. So stupid. It would just be a respectful man thing to do to just tell me. Big respectful man thing.
We're done.
So stupid. It got really stressful. We didn't see a significant utility out of the show
itself other than cash. Every decision we make, including leaving the show, is a group
conversation because ultimately, you know, everything we do personally affects our professional
life.
You kicked me out of the Venture Capital, too, when it's my entire name.
Animal is your name?
Yes.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I didn't know Animal existed without you.
Animal is my whole brand, dude.
Party Animal is my whole brand.
If you think it's like me, then shoot me.
Why'd you choose Animal?
I don't know.
Why not?
Who gave you the idea of Animal?
Here, I'll just answer for you.
I did.
You **** on everybody in Sway.
Look at your text to Blake.
What, where I called him out for being a jackass with you?
Where you said that you know every single person that he works with for brand deals,
and you said you could take him away like that?
Not what I said.
Look, is that what he said?
Yeah.
I don't have a photographic memory, so I don't remember the exact text,
but is it something like that?
Something in that area, yeah.
No.
What kind of f***ing power do you have to do that? It's not f it's not power if i get a call from a brand asking me to vouch for someone
and i know that they're doing stupid it's very hard for me to get on the phone with someone and
say yes i vouch for that person who was the one that put the foot put their foot down and split
up sway oh me 100 hey michael let me see your bitcoin wallet oh yeah because you don't have
bitcoin you're a complete cat the only reason you're getting connections right now is our Hey Michael, let me see your Bitcoin wallet. How do you f*** yourself? Oh yeah, because you don't have Bitcoin.
You're a complete cat.
The only reason you're getting connections right now is our likeness.
You were messing with the top influencer.
I'm delusional.
You tried to get me out of my own energy drink.
That has my name on it.
First of all, never tried to get you out.
Josh, sorry to involve you.
Did he try to get me out?
There was a time when you weren't coming on any calls yet.
For like four or five years. You tried to get me out of my own energy drink.
What the f*** does that even mean?
Because it was my idea.
Literally, nobody speaks up to him.
Everybody just gets stepped on by him.
And I don't f***ing like it.
He tries to claim that he has so much power.
He says he can ruin anybody.
Ruin me.
I'm telling him.
I'm giving him permission.
Like, do it.
Damn.
I can be honest, I may have to
start watching this fucking show if it wasn't
canceled. That was pretty fucking good.
That was good. I watched it. Kareem texted me,
you gotta watch this episode. I watched it and then I binged
the whole thing. That, to me, felt very real.
I mean,
nah, bro. That shit's so
fucking fake and cut together
in certain ways. That whole entire
scene wasn't even shot close to like that whole entire scene wasn't
even shot close to like that like they they're editing and stuff that happens like three hours
later putting it before and like they'll add the stuff that's from like two-day clip interview
before throw it into there it's like it's kind of weird super super so grew in grew and commented
on that he said that the episode initially was supposed to be about Dave,
and that you broke up today.
We have the clip.
It's like a short clip from a podcast that he did with Griffin,
but basically it was supposed to be about Dave,
and then they just changed it and made it about Gruen.
No, they did.
That is true.
We got to watch the first aired episode.
This guy, dude.
What actually bothers me more is the personal relationships with this.
I consider Bryce a friend.
It affects them personally.
But the other part about it, I think this whole thing is really funny,
is they originally filmed an episode where they painted the entire narrative
that Dave Portnoy broke up Sway.
And then Facebook didn't let them show that
because it was already on the internet, all that information.
So then the next episode is like, it's me who broke up Sway.
So I texted the executive producer.
I'm like, I don't know.
I'm just curious.
Like, was it Dave or me?
Because it keeps changing.
Yeah, I just want to know.
They're like, information evolves.
And now the guys, some of the guys think it was you.
And I said, but they thought yesterday on record that it was Dave.
So are you like, maybe you're creating a narrative?
Is it possible?
They didn't respond.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, obviously they are.
I mean.
Oh, really?
I mean, not wrong.
I like it. It was kind of funny because they did show us like this pre. they didn't respond yeah well i mean obviously they are i mean oh really i mean not wrong i like
it was kind of funny because they did show us like this uh pre like they would like do these
airings right and we'd all sit down and watch the the episodes before they came out and there was
this whole episode dave where it was like me and you were fucking satan like we were the worst
people on the earth we were we were the reason sway broke up We were like the epitome of just bad dudes.
And then there was like, I think Bryce.
Where would they even get the footage of that from me?
It was just like from our podcast recording with Bryce.
It was like a couple clips they were taking off the internet,
taking off of Barstool.
And then Facebook was like, no, we can't air this
because there was like a bunch of
drinking montage clips from like bryce's old vlogs or like strippers from his old vlogs or
something crazy like that so then facebook was like we can't air this episode so then they
reshot the entire episode and completely changed the entire narrative they had to find a new villain
how big is this show or was this show is it still going now that you're out of it? Or is the show dead? I mean, I don't know.
I don't... Oh, it's still going.
No, it's still being filmed.
But you're just not in it? No, I just
was like, I'm gonna leave. Because
we didn't want to do it from the start, but
then they were like, no, we're gonna cancel the show for
all the boys if you and Griff
don't do it. And we were like, fuck,
well, that makes us feel like dicks if we're taking
away like $100, dollar deals or hundreds of
thousands of dollars from our friends that are already like committed to that.
Right.
They already thought they were getting it.
They already signed the deal.
So it was just like this really weird situation where we were kind of like,
all right,
do we take the hit and do the deal?
But then it just started affecting too much stuff.
So we had to step.
So how much money did you turn down,
Josh?
Um,
I ended up like the, the full deal was a cap and mail.
For just you or for everybody?
No, for me.
So you just turned that – that is – you're living right if you just turn that down.
Yeah.
And am I wrong?
This is my impression as we continue this way.
And even though I threw that jab, I like making fun of him.
I like Gruen.
I'm team Gruen.
I like that.
Yeah, he's growing on me but you
gruen's grown you gruen and griff griffin yeah you seem like a pod within now am i wrong about that
are you like like i don't see gruen and bryce being like bryce does his thing but i don't see
him being like a gruen guy i really see it being you grew at one
point it was it was me bryson gruen though for like a good three months straight that and that
was like because griff was kind of doing more like just like still doing social media shit
and then me and bryce were doing like all these investment calls together and we were doing all
the like we were doing everything and then he just kind of stepped away from it he just didn't like
it he wanted to be more entertainment-focused.
He started, like, being like, no, I don't really want to do that stuff,
which is fine.
Like, cool.
You go do what you want to do.
You know what I mean?
Bryce is like an entertainer at heart.
He's, like, big, big energy in front of a camera.
He's not, like, sit down at a desk and listen to a venture call
for 30 minutes to an hour.
That's not that guy.
Right.
So would you say I'm right then in that assessment? that guy right so would you but so would you say
i'm right then in that assessment now yeah yeah now i would say you're right i would say that
it's like me griffin grew and go and do our work together every day and then like
like we hang out with people it's just like when we're working we're together so how's the
relationship right now and i know it's gone up and down with Bryce. Good? Yeah. No, I would say I'm chilling. I would say we're
great.
Interesting.
How many views? Do we know how many views S.Y.
showed? That was like, whether it's real or not.
So I know it's on two places. It's on like their
Instagram and it's on their Facebook.
But we can check.
Welker, so our BFF hoodies.
I don't mind the BFFs being on the shoulder.
I guess we sent out the hoodies wrong. They were in the center and now it's on the shoulder. Yeah, that's BFF hoodies. I don't mind the BFFs being on the shoulder. Just, I guess we send out the hoodies wrong.
They're in the center and outside the shoulder.
Yeah, that's kind of fucking annoying.
There's a thief in the office.
They left me my hoodie and someone stole it and we caught them wearing it.
And there was only four hoodies ever made.
And then Owen stole my hoodie.
Owen just stole it?
He just stole it off my desk and is pretending that he didn't steal it from me.
He was just wearing it around.
Wait, is he still holding on to that narrative though? Yeah, he's saying that he took it off my desk and is pretending that he didn't steal it from me. He's just wearing it around.
Wait, is he still holding on to that narrative, though?
Yeah, he's saying that he took it off Kareem's desk, but he took it off my desk and he's just wearing it around proudly.
Well, the issue was I never had one because they were like prototypes.
We had like four in existence.
I think Dave had two, Brie had one, Josh had one.
So he couldn't have taken it.
So did everybody who got it, got it with the logo on the shoulder as opposed to the center?
They're shipping this week, so we don't know yet.
I think that person is probably one of the first people.
So next week we might have to give an update and say like all 500 or however many we sold out. Well, we can always resend them and make Welker pay for them.
Right.
True, true.
All right.
Videos to react to Logan Paul on Alex Cooper hookup.
By the way, how's Griffin's relationship going with the girl that I hooked him up with?
Dude, it was like super like nothing went anywhere.
She's awesome.
Right?
Yeah, she was bad.
She was good looking.
And cool.
Yeah, super cool.
Met her at the pod, no?
Oh, he was talking to me about her.
He said that she is looking for a relationship and he's not looking for a relationship.
Ah, fair enough.
Yeah, everyone's single for the summer.
Single for the summer?
The opportunity presented itself and, like, I'm curious.
And I was like, yo, she fucking talks the talk because she walked the walk.
So you hit the Gluck Gluck 9000.
I didn't hit the Gluck Gluck 9000, George.
But one of us did.
And it was fantastic.
And she walks the walk.
If there's one
icon of this generation
who should be giving young women
and even men sex advice
it's Alex fucking Cooper.
My issue with it was this. she went on the podcast and said
logan quote unquote logan paul can't keep a secret and in my mind i'm like dude i told like
one like close friend yeah hey you just told the whole internet i even texted her i was like hey
like are we good did this like i did that offend you was i supposed
to like lock that in a vault forever like how can i that's not like i liken it to fucking
finding the fountain of youth and not telling anyone yeah like i i got it i found it and it
was great i'm sorry for putting your business out here, Alex. She started it. Fuck you. I'm just going in.
She doesn't put out.
She's she.
I think I was like a very like rare circle.
Now, I think I was a very rare, rare circumstance, like for whatever reason.
She doesn't put out.
And at first I was like, oh, she's like cap, like because she definitely doesn't put out.
And yeah, she she's a creative at heart.
She just happens to be the product.
I'm lost.
I'm lost.
She's smart. I gotta be honest. I keep the product I'm lost I'm lost now She's smart
I gotta be honest
I keep hearing the word cap
What the fuck does that mean?
Cap
She's cap
You're lying
Like you're capping
Like you're lying
And all girls say that
I mean
The I don't put out thing
That he said
All girls like
After they is
I don't put out
Whatever
But yeah so
That's Josie
Harry Josie
Yeah he's the one that spilled it.
He's the one who spilled it.
He's, by the way, he's become like a team Portnoy guy.
Since BFFs?
I can't go.
He's commented on everything.
He's sending me like voice memos.
He's like my boy now.
He's your best friend, Doug.
Yeah.
Yeah, I will say I'm like Logan Paul in this sense, except I'm open.
Not necessarily.
I don't like being told secrets.
If you tell me things, I have to tell you.
You can't keep secrets.
Yeah.
But I'm open about it.
Don't tell me about it.
Just don't because I will not keep it.
Yeah.
You always been like that.
You always keep secrets.
Oh, I can't keep a secret.
What's the point of knowing something if you can't tell somebody?
I mean, I guess it's true.
It's a better way to go.
So if you tell me, I'm telling everybody.
That was like Lana with the last part.
You were just 100%.
Yeah.
Why'd you tell me that?
Yeah, she's like, I beep beep, blah, blah.
Blake Griffin, blah, blah.
Like, well, I have to say something.
Yeah. Yeah. No, but we just did it's all good uh t-pain doesn't know how instagram dms work i was today years old
when i found out about the request folder on instagram that's full of celebs trying to reach me
dude is that fergie barstools in there smh
Dude, is that Fergie?
SMH?
Oh lord, I missed him here.
I've been accidentally straight up ignoring all these people for like two years.
I thought DMs are supposed to just show up in a normal folder,
and you don't have to go digging for all these.
Yeah, it didn't have to go on this long.
He was just showing off now.
Yeah, yeah, he was showing off for a little bit at the end, but... Wow.
He's got a lot of people.
I did, he was a super nice guy.
I met him, I did a pizza review with him.
I wore shades, I remember that.
It was like before a concert or something.
That might be the most clouded DM request.
He's got a lot.
Actually, no.
Bill Gates' wife probably right now is the most clouded DM request.
With the breakup.
Yep.
Dave, you didn't have your request signed in.
You know how many people must be sliding in?
You didn't know that was a thing?
Yeah, I didn't.
Like a dough brick?
Yeah, that's what I said.
Yeah, the top.
Mine, though, I don't have a lot of people in there like that.
I had like three people.
But Dixie and Noah Beck take Disneyland.
By the way, Dixie's veryah beck take disneyland by the way
dixie's very close i want people to cut this to get on my shit list because i went on her show
she's supposed to go on our on ours and now her people have been sort of like big time in us
she's always like yeah yeah and then her people like oh she can do it the end of may it's 20
minutes dixie i went to la i did your fucking show. So before this turns into World War III, I would tell your people, cut out 20 minutes and come on the show because that was the deal we made.
You don't want World War III?
No.
You don't want it.
Just saying.
Dixie and Noah Beck take Disneyland.
All right.
I mean, this probably looks like World War III.
Oh, hey, Dixie and Noah.
Hey, Disney Parks TikTok.
While we have you here we just have
to know what is your favorite disney park snack mine's probably the spicy pickles mine's gotta
be the frosty part no cap see you real soon did they just say no cap that was a they shouldn't
have said no cap it didn't even make sense in that situation everybody's saying no cap
everybody's saying now and if you're saying it now you're too late on instagram last night was a
movie enough everywhere you go last tonight's gonna be a movie last night was a movie enough
that that has already come and gone yeah like like you in the basement with your boys isn't a movie
bro everything last night was a movie um that's like Brianna with her post yesterday.
No back.
Brianna posted that yesterday.
We're not skipping this.
Brianna posted a TikTok, and it was very My Life's a Movie.
Did you?
I did not write My Life's a Movie, though.
I posted a montage of my day.
But you didn't say My Day was a Movie.
The caption was like, what was the caption?
I was very happy because I saw my boyfriend for the first time in a while.
I thought you broke up with him.
No, we're together.
Me too.
So you did break up and you're back together.
We were having a little rough patch and we were together, yeah.
But they're stronger than ever, she said.
That's good, right?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Me and Dave, he's got a girl now too.
So you guys, you're single for the summer and now we're coupled up.
He's got a girl now too.
So you guys, you're single for the summer and now we're coupled up.
Gosh, you guys are leaving the third BFF just to fucking go into the trenches all alone.
Get your boy Noah back.
Yeah.
Where Mickey Mouse here is getting dragged around Disney World on a leash.
It's the worst, man.
Come on, Noah. Let's go play some soccer. It's the worst, man. Come on, Noah.
Let's go play some soccer.
He's going to do something.
He's wearing Mickey Mouse ears.
Come on, Noah.
I wonder how much they got paid for that.
Probably infinity dollars.
Yeah, like ridiculous amount of money for that one TikTok.
No cap.
No cap.
No cap, and last night was a movie. Haven't you guys noticed last night was a movie? It's everywhere. and my last night was a movie haven't you guys noticed last night was a movie's everywhere everybody's yeah it is everywhere movie yeah it's because everyone's out of covid
now or like they're starting to get out a little bit so then they're going out and like partying
and they're like last night was a movie dog like we went out and we had like four beers each it
was wild everyone's tolerances are low everything Everything's just going to go crazy, man.
Do you want to do this?
Siblings are dating.
Do you want to do the game or no?
We can save it.
We have a couple of headlines we skipped.
Where are the headlines?
I skipped headlines?
Yeah, this page.
What?
Oh, shoot.
That is true.
All right.
Then we'll do the headlines.
Little Huddy new music video is America's Sweetheart starring Charlie.
Are they back together?
I don't know.
I think they're just besties.
That's what we – I don't –
How can you go from dating to besties?
That doesn't happen.
Yeah.
I'm just going to vouch on that one.
It does not happen.
Okay.
So let's see it.
Okay, so let's see it.
Is it?
Yeah. Everything I touch always seems to break I get so depressed when I hear your name
I don't really give a shit if you stay
I don't really give a shit if you go I don't really give a shit either way That's Charlie dancing.
Is that Charlie dancing?
Yeah.
Oh, true.
I'm so glad. Is that Charlie Branson? Yeah. Oh, true. That's right.
We're about to get hella copyright.
We just made Chase a bag off this pod.
You don't like it?
This song sucks.
I thought you liked Little Huddy.
I'm neutral on Little Huddy, but that song is no good.
Oh, see, I kind of like it.
I was waiting for the chorus the entire time.
You didn't hear it yet, I don't think.
All right, let me get to the chorus before I judge.
Yeah, that's true.
You can't judge before the chorus.
Wait, did you think that I wouldn't kind of want them to?
It's coming.
We're about to drop. And I'm gonna tell you something you don't wanna hear
I won't feel good until I disappear
I don't really give a shit if you stay
Yeah, the give a shit.
I kind of like it.
That song was too slow.
That song was too boring, too slow.
If that was an American Idol song, I'd tell the contestant, pick a new song.
Too slow.
It's slow, but I think that's what he was going for because she was all dancing.
Yeah, definitely was going for that.
I don't like that song.
Look at the views.
I don't doubt it.
Lil Huddy puts asses in the seats.
I don't doubt that. And you're puts asses in the seats. I don't doubt that.
And you're telling me Lil Huddy.
Obviously, you're going to get a million views.
The combo.
You like his other...
But you liked his other song, right?
The vampire one?
21st Century Vampire?
I think we reacted to it and you were head on.
Maybe.
But they're definitely together again if they're in the video.
Yeah, 100%.
They're not just friends.
Yeah, I think they're back together.
Huddy stans come after Bryce Josh for old real music take. What does this mean? if they're in the video. Yeah, 100%. They're not just friends. Yeah, I think they're back together.
Honey stands come after price, Josh,
for old real music take.
What does this mean?
Old real music.
Oh, my God.
I think it's because... What was it?
Hit us up.
This is so...
I actually want to do real music.
Oh, shit.
Oh, my God.
I hit you when your real music gets 4 million views in four days.
That shit was funny as fuck.
I mean, he still doesn't have a video with, like, what,
100 million total streams across platforms, but it's fine.
That's still soft-ish?
Yes, sir.
Still soft-ish.
No, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Congrats to him.
I think that song, like, his voice sounds like it improved from the last one.
It sounds like there was, like...
Well, he wasn't auto-tuned
on that one. Yeah, there was less auto-tune.
There was a couple points, but he was softer
singing, you know? So you got a little bit more to hear
that actual voice, I think.
So he always dressed like that, even
when he was with you guys.
Yeah. He was the original E-boy.
Well, yeah.
He was the OG...
Nail-painted... Can I see that hoodie he was wearing again? he was like the oh yeah he was the og like uh nail painted can i see that hoodie he was
wearing again it was like it was like deadly he didn't want to sit too we couldn't sit too close
i'm on the couch because he was like poking my eye out at one point it's spikes coming out of
the you see how far away we had to be yeah damn it got me in the eye. Was Huddy part of what, like, was he in Sway ever?
No.
Hype House.
No, no, no, no.
We were, he was in Hype House.
And then, like, it was like, we were both in Lights Out Boys,
which was, like, our tour that we went on.
We were in that group.
And that's when we were, like, homies.
Got it.
All right.
Charlie gives her fans a name, Charlie DeMeo.
A lot of Charlie news.
Jeez.
She turned 17. What are you guys thinking before we watch this? Charlie isMeo. A lot of Charlie news. Jeez. She turned 17 this week.
What are you guys thinking before we watch this?
Charlie is 17 years old.
She just turned 17.
She's 17.
This week.
She's 1-7.
1-7.
That is a young motherfucker.
She's got the world ahead of her.
Holy shit.
Charlie's only 17?
Kind of blew my mind.
How old is Huddy?
How old is Huddy?
19?
Huddy turns 19 in 10 days.
Oh, yeah.
Jeez.
Holy shit.
So they're like two years.
That's not even bad.
I mean, Charlie's like the youngest.
That's crazy.
I sometimes forget doing this show.
How young?
That's crazy, bro.
Sperm.
No cap.
Yeah.
No cap.
Still being fertilized.
You're so young.
So young and rich.
And I don't think that it's cool to be making fun of the people that give me the platform that I have.
I think my baby Duncans are the cutest people on planet Earth.
And I really don't like you guys making fun of them.
So please, please don't do that.
It's really hurtful.
And they have feelings, too.
So can you please stop that?
Because I'm going to stop using this account if that's what my comments are filled with.
People are making fun of the Baby Duncans.
That's our fans?
Yeah, the Baby Duncans.
For how long has that been her fans?
Probably since she got the Duncan deal.
Gaz loves that clip.
He told me about it like four times.
Like, you got to play the Baby Duncans clip.
Why do you like that?
It is an awesome clip.
Have the Baby Duncans bought into it?
You know what?
It's kind of baller just to be able to label your fans.
You just name your cult.
Not only that, she named them after an advertiser.
Dunkin' Donuts.
She literally used her fans to make a brand deal.
She used their name.
She was like, hey, watch this shit real quick.
I'm going to make a bag off of my fans' names.
Give me $10 billion and and we're gonna name my fans
the baby dunks unbelievable if if charlie didn't get a brand deal out of that she already had it
she's already sponsored by duncan's they just probably like increased it this 17 year old
there has to be a bonus yes whenever i was playing checkers it It's crazy. God damn. Baby Duncans.
I'm about to come out with a new fan name called
Adult Starbs
or something like that.
That sounds weird.
What do we call BFF stans?
Besties?
I feel like besties.
I think we would lose 50% of our audience.
Do we have any stans?
The Twitter's insane.
I do all the tweeting
and it's like you post
and then within like 10 seconds
like people have the notifications on.
Hundreds of people.
How many people are on our Twitter account?
I think it has like 35,000 followers
but that's not really a good metric
but like we can tweet anything
and it explodes.
I get tagged in like at least 20 videos a day
of people making videos about us three.
Really?
They stan us pretty hard.
Wow.
They're stanning all over us.
All right.
Good.
Jeff Wittek broke his face doing a stunt for David Dobrik video.
So Dobrik's still out here just doing shit?
No, no, no, no.
This is called the vlog squad is now realizing David is gone.
They have nothing left to make like money and and now he's like let
me go on this rampage where i'm gonna like come up with a documentary come up with all this shit
and just like pile up the views get as much money as i can while i still got clout that's what i'm i
i feel like because it seems like everyone that knows him is just like they're just piling on the
outing like they're just piling and piling and piling it on so i feel like this is just like uh we got nothing left bunch of chickens running
with their heads cut off yeah i feel like jeff wittek is also milking the shit out of this though
it could have been like one youtube video and he's like he's acting like it was something he
made a whole documentary no yeah i don't know like the full situation what happened what i heard and
i heard this like actually before it even came out.
I heard this, like, five months ago when David, like, stopped his vlogging.
Like, his whole break from vlogging was essentially because this, actually.
Not COVID, I heard.
But it was, they were training for a skydiving or, like, some stunt.
And Jeff was training for it.
And then for that stunt.
He was like tied to a.
Excavator.
And they were swinging him around on a lake.
And David's like filming it with one hand.
While swinging him around on the excavator.
And just went too quick.
Flung him into like a.
I mean he did almost die.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which is like brutal.
And apparently like David never even went and visited him in the hospital
or something like that.
Like, never cared, never came to see him.
Went with him to the hospital when he was hurt,
but then, like, never visited him again, never talked about it.
But, I mean, maybe it was just, like,
they never established the line between, like, are they homies
or is this a business, you know?
Let's see the video.
Corinna gets on it, and then David starts moving it.
It's like, this shot looks so sick.
This looks beautiful.
God damn.
She's got it, she's got it.
The thing comes off and it starts falling down.
And Corinna's like, what the fuck?
Put me down, put me down.
She's like, you take things too far, David.
I just jumped out of a plane 20 times.
What's the worst that could happen if I swing from a rope over a one foot deep lake?
And yeah, I didn't know I was going to go that fast.
So I grabbed a fucking rope and I tried to make a goddamn funny video for people.
But this is where I made a mistake.
I forgot that the biggest fucking idiot I know was driving it.
Oh shit!
Oh shit!
That's literally a horror movie.
That's a horror movie.
Time literally slows down.
Go to Utah Valley Hospital, Jeff's been hurt.
The whole side of his face
is just open and nobody could do anything to stop it wait a sec they're all in on this shit
yeah that you're right that felt like that was made for a video yeah also they're acting like
david made him like do all this stuff. They enabled David.
They did all these stunts for him.
What do you mean by they're in on this, Josh?
The documentary.
The documentary.
If Jeff hates this man, why is he going and getting documentary clips from David?
Have you watched it?
I watched the documentary. Not at all.
Jeff's take is kind of like it was his fault.
He did it.
He's not mad at David, but he thinks david takes advantage of people so they're kind of like coming out being like david's a shitty person but like
this wasn't really his fault we all did this shit with him well yeah they they realized what they
were getting out of it yeah they were doing it because clout and money and whatever but it's just
like god damn so wait are like david and all these people actually in the documentary
yeah for for some parts but i think there's more coming out right now it's really just jeff but
natalie talks in it and um so does jason nash i don't know any of these people are the vlog squad
they were like the the biggest people on the internet like before now it's tiktokers it was
the vlog squad got it i feel like i need to educate myself before I speak about it
because someone's going to take what I say and say, I don't know.
No, you didn't say anything wrong about it.
You were kind of right.
Weird situation.
I mean, from an outsider without knowing any of what he did,
Dobrik was huge.
I don't know who any of these other people are.
They're doing shit with Dobrik so they get huge and make a living.
So he puts you on an excavator, slings you across your face busts open get a couple views you know the game yeah
i'm what's no different than a little jackass like yeah you know the game you get shot out of
a cannon and into a fucking brick wall and uncle veto comes running out and hey that's a wrap you
get views what's the difference here don't't complain. Your face gets ripped apart.
You want to have clout.
You want to be part of the vlog squad.
You want the shine.
You get thrown around an excavator.
Yeah.
Big deal.
So I'm saying they did it.
It's not like David made them do it.
You almost died.
Big deal, dog.
You want clout.
You want people to know who you are.
Like, would people know who you are if you're just walking on the street,
punching a clock nine to five?
No.
So shut up and get thrown off an escalator.
Off an escalator.
We're going to have like a mass report from kids just jumping off of escalators in malls.
Trying to get on BFFs.
Yeah, trying to get views.
I think that's it, right?
Yeah, that's it, unless you guys want questions.
We can do questions.
No, let's run some questions.
All right.
Who was your first celebrity crush that you can remember?
Kristen Kruk, Smallville.
Selena Gomez.
Who's Kristen Kruk?
That's a good question.
She was on a show, Smallville.
She was so hot.
First crush ever?
You remember Topanga?
Punky Brewster, super little. I like Punky Brewster, too. So hot. So hot. First crush ever? You remember Topanga from Boy in the World?
Yeah, oh, Punky Brewster.
Super little.
I like Punky Brewster, too.
Okay.
What's a relationship deal breaker for you?
Relationship deal breaker?
Cigarettes.
Smoking cigarettes 100%. Maybe not going to sleep.
Okay.
I have a funny answer, but I don't know if I have a...
I mean, you can't just dangle us like that.
Yeah, you can give us two answers if you need to.
I don't know what's a deal...
Is it like rude?
Do you think it's rude to say, like, bad breath?
No, that's a fucking deal breaker.
No, that's a huge deal breaker, I would say so.
I just don't want to be like a rude guy.
Bad breath, you cannot overcome bad breath.
If someone has bad breath, that's absolutely a deal breaker.
Deal breaker, okay.
Get that out of my face.
What advice would you give your younger self right now if you could talk to them?
Keep your circle tight as fuck
i think that had some bearing in reality younger self that was that was such a like dramatic like villain yeah wow i don't know
i really don't know younger self younger
dave was just not doing much i mean he was just kind of living i don't know i really don't know
no advice no regrets no i really don't i don't know yeah i don't have anything terrible answer
but i don't have yet don't worry about too much every day day is different. I don't know.
Go with the flow.
That's great advice always, I think.
Yeah, that's it for the questions.
All right.
One final thing.
Our producers want Josh to react to this video.
Remember last week we watched the hot boy summer of him and Bryce?
They were like standing in front flexing.
Is it Singy for the summer?
Yeah, of Sass.
I love this video, dog.
I love this video dog
Oh, let's fucking go the boys are singy for the summer no trouble is coming
No, sir. I absolutely love that video. I saw that and I think I sent that to like five people
It was it was it was funny too because like I knew like, bro,
I went over to the house and I knew Bryce was going to want to film that video.
Like I knew he was going to want to get that type of video because like we both just went through the breakup.
So I knew he was going to want to do it.
And I'm like in the bathroom and I'm like changing
and I hear Bryce come up and he's like,
hey, Josh, you want to film a TikTok, man?
I'm like yeah sure
just give me a sec and I'm like waiting
I'm like waiting for Griff to get done his thing
cause then we were gonna leave after
and I'm like I was in there for like 5 minutes
I'm trying to like act like it's just taking me a long time
to put my pants on or something
and then Griff is just taking so long
and I'm just like fuck alright we'll film it
I don't really care that much. We went and we filmed
the video. Did the little like daps up or whatever.
It was kind of funny, but it was just also like kind of, you know.
Kind of Sway Boy.
Prime Sway Boy house.
Sure.
Prime Sway.
Yeah, that's a great word for it.
Prime Sway Boy.
Yeah, it was Sway.
Yeah.
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Okay, so BFFs, we're already.
Whitney Cummings, thank you for coming,
and I know it's a big deal because we asked you short notice.
Yeah, no, I'm only here for the money that you're paying me.
And by the way, you said that.
Does any podcast pay for this?
I do.
Yeah, I pay for car service, hair, makeup, and then I donate.
Donate to...
Donate what?
Donate money.
I just say, like, what charity of your choice, I'll donate.
Okay, so you said you have a podcast today with Kevin Nealon, right?
I do, yeah.
Okay, so how much do you pay for that? I will provide him a car, hair and makeup, if he wants it. But we so you said you have a podcast today with Kevin Nealon, right? I do, yeah. Okay, so how much do you pay for that?
I will provide him a car, hair and makeup
if he wants it. But we offered you a car.
Oh, really? That's fine. I drove myself.
Okay. Yeah. I know women can't drive
and you probably think women can't drive. No, I don't think that.
I did okay. I don't think that.
I don't think that at all. I think women can drive
just as equally as men. Just as equally.
Yeah. And by the way,
we had a big list of guests.
Yeah.
And it was probably what?
I know.
I literally was like,
who canceled last minute?
Which is something I would say,
so I like that.
But you were on
the extreme short list
of who I picked.
Thank you.
Josh.
That's true.
Josh has never heard of me.
So he thinks I'm Joan Rivers.
He's younger.
He's clearly younger.
He thinks I'm Stormy Daniels.
He's like, who is this?
No, I don't think that is.
Where have you ever heard of me?
I saw you just furiously reading my tweets right as I sat down trying to figure out who I was.
That is what I was actually doing.
Thanks for preparing.
On a printout.
Someone printed that.
Two broke girls.
I know that.
Someone killed a tree so that you could look at my tweets, even though your phone is right there where you could have looked at my tweets.
Someone killed a tree so that you could look at my tweets,
even though your phone is right there where you could have looked at my tweets.
Well, I feel like to his defense, to accumulate the tweets in that order.
I feel like he can defend himself.
Why don't you let him defend himself?
Go for it.
I mean, I don't really.
Why do I need to defend myself for reading a one-sheet?
I feel like I'm sort of fascinated by you.
Yeah, well, you said that's what I was going to ask.
I thought you were joking.
First of all, I don't know.
Gruen, Mike Gruen.
Yeah.
So you're friends with him.
No, I mean, I'm fascinated by the fact that he's going to go to jail any minute and no one is saying anything.
Because of Lou Pearlman, you mean?
Well, no, I mean, his pants are around his ankles.
His pants are I walk
in a home. You know that Louis C.K.
has not worked since because of that exact
thing. Oh you're saying he did that to you. No I'm just
saying you can't walk around with your pants around your ankles
anymore when you have people around and you're
doing a production. That's physique. Have you
guys not learned anything from my generation?
That's his physique though.
I mean like sometimes. Well no he's going to have
a heart attack in 20 minutes.
I mean, so I just wanted to sort of get it on the ground floor.
I like how you go right after.
I've told him that.
I've told him that.
Yeah.
I said like, yo, get, I bought him a Bowflex.
I bought him a Bowflex.
I was like, yo, get on the bike.
Yeah.
He didn't.
So I was confused by our Texas change.
So what we did, I was like, yeah, I think you're very funny.
Thank you.
Who else did we pick on that?
It was Snoop, you, and there was one more person maybe.
Thank you.
Tick Tock.
Mark Wahlberg maybe.
Mark Wahlberg.
And we were like, no offense, he's just the name there.
I wasn't sure he'd get what we were doing.
Yeah, yeah.
So it was a very short list.
Only person with people with dumber names of their posse than you, Spider, over here.
Spider's actually a great name.
Spider, what's your actual name?
Daniel.
Daniel.
How did it happen, Spider?
I'm going to call you Daniel.
Why did you get that nickname?
Because I was loved in a case of waters like that
by you and Big Cat on the run down.
Spider got his job by saying...
Do you know his real name, though?
Dan DiOrio, yes.
He got his job by...
He would just carry water.
Do you know his name?
Yeah, Kareem.
Okay.
His name?
Now, we had a little...
Do you ever watch 24-7? No, 24, right? The show? The show. Did you ever his name? Yeah, Kareem. Okay. His name? Now, we had a little, do you ever watch 24-7?
No, 24, right?
The show?
The show.
Did you ever watch that?
Yeah, it's a hot reference.
Yes.
Well, I have great references.
So he had a gambling syndicate within our office, basically.
And I nicknamed him Marwan, and that got a little bit.
We had to change that because everyone was like, wait, did you say it?
Because you're kind of the new Steve Jobs.
Remember when Steve Jobs had two? That's nice. Yeah, I'm a nice bit. We had to change that because everyone's like, wait, did you say it because... Because you're kind of the new Steve Jobs. Remember when Steve Jobs
had two...
That's nice.
Yeah, I'm a nice person.
I think I was waiting
to figure out like...
Yeah, that's huge.
You are.
I mean, people thought
he was an asshole.
I was waiting to figure out
what the insult was.
No, I'm not insulting you at all.
I'm a fan.
That was a compliment.
But here's the thing,
comics fuck around.
Like, comics fuck around
and when you have comics...
I called my girlfriend last night
and was like,
do you know what you're signing up for?
Comedians come on and we fuck around and we're sarcastic and we, like, barb.
That's me.
Okay, good.
Yeah, so I can.
So back to the Texas change.
Let me finish my thing about Steve Jobs.
So he had two employees named, like, Joe or something and didn't have time to, like, figure out which was which.
So he's like, your name's Billy now.
Like, he just changed their names.
We all have
kind of nicknames that that work like i guess kareem doesn't spider just stuck he used to carry
his water like the key to getting hired is just for us is just act busy so he literally would
carry like the water from one side of the office put it down pick it up and carry it back and
forth oh spider's killing it oh yeah is so smart. Now he's here.
I respect that. The Texas change.
Yes. I thought it was joking
and then you were like, so you
didn't think we were going to attack you or like
what was it? Ambush.
Ambush. Oh no, well for me
the way that this
I'm learning about how the podcast space works.
I've only recently been doing a podcast for the past like
year or so and it's just it's such a casual vibe.
It's like, hey, want to do my podcast tomorrow at noon?
It's just sort of like...
It's very casual.
I don't normally book things 12 hours in advance, but I did it.
So we're never together.
This was kind of like a last minute us getting out here.
It's always better when you do it in Zoom.
I kind of like to prepare and know what I'm doing, but I'm not prepared.
How do you prepare for a podcast?
For like just a casual conversation?
Yeah, well, in my day,
you show up,
you know something about the guest.
You've heard of them.
You've Googled them in advance.
You sort of watch.
Oh, no, I like typed your name in Google.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you.
I gave you that.
Yeah, no.
I was not disappointed.
Like, I can't know who you are or else I would go to jail.
Like, that would, I would be on Megan's list.
Right.
Like, I can't follow you on social media.
My friends, my male friends have done that with young females and they aren't working.
So I can't, I can't really know your work.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Or else I'm a pedophile.
True.
Do you know what I'm saying?
How old are you?
You're 19 now, right?
Yeah.
All right, I'll follow you.
Okay, I'll follow you now.
We're out of the pervert age.
You're allowed to know who I am. I'm not really
allowed to know who you are. There's laws around
this stuff. 18, yeah, and you've been
in the middle of that with a lot of your
people. What's the legal age in Canada?
Is there a... I just don't know.
18, is it? I'm looking for...
Age of consent? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have sex?
I think it's 16. Is it in
Canada? Yeah, it is.
So I went to school in Michigan.
Do we have, you'd like the game we play, actually.
No, so because of the age difference, we do Boomer Zoomer,
and we put up, like, they didn't know who Pearl Jam was, for example.
Yep.
And then I won't know basically anybody they're doing.
You're 38?
I'm 38.
Research. Yeah. Good job by me. Yeah, thank you. You're 38? I'm 38. Research.
Yeah.
That would be right up the alley.
By the crow's feet around my eyes.
You just looked at my face.
38.
So you, a lot of what we're seeing there, you think Hollywood's dead?
Is that it?
I don't think Hollywood's dead.
I think what happens with, like, everything.
By the way, the hair is bold for 38.
Thank you.
Thanks.
Like, people chirp me for being like, you chirp me like you're not 18,
but you dress kind of like how I dress.
You guys each have a bomber jacket, too.
You do.
Do you want me to answer any of the questions, or do we just ask a question?
Sometimes we just jump over.
At your leisure.
It does happen.
So is the idea to answer the questions you ask, or just to keep jumping around?
Sometimes.
So I feel like I can dress like this.
You guys just dressing in pajamas is wildly insulting.
That's actually, I just like to wear pajamas.
I know, but in my day, if I was 19 and did a podcast
with someone who's achieved a bunch,
I would wear a button-down.
I would sort of brush.
I would dry my hair.
Are you saying to be with me or you?
No, it's washed.
It's washed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, it looks like shit.
I would say it's like 7.3.
I can't tell if it's wet or if it's pomade. 7.3? It looks insane. You look insane. That's their move, yeah. I mean, it looks like shit. I would say it's like... I can't tell if it's wet or if it's pomade.
7.3?
It looks insane.
You look insane.
They don't move, though.
That's the thing.
That's what plays.
But in 10 years, are you going to look back and be like,
God, I nailed that?
I would say so.
Do you have a plan for in 10 years?
Because getting famous this young has worked out for literally no one.
Every...
Name one person.
Every child Disney star has worked out perfectly for that.
Okay, Amanda Bynes, Lindsay Lohan.
Does the name Eddie Furlong mean anything to you?
Macaulay Culkin, Corey Haim, Corey Feldman.
Macaulay Culkin's not doing that.
Macaulay Culkin?
You don't even know how to pronounce his name.
He's not doing great.
I struggle with his name.
If David Portnoy doesn't know who he is, he's not doing well.
No, no, I know exactly who it is.
I want to, he's in a pizza band.
I'm just curious,
is that, oh yeah,
that is true.
His brother's killing it
on Succession.
Yeah, that's the best
show on TV.
So your brother
is going to kill it
in like 15 years.
Do you have a brother?
Who is a child star
who's going to eat it?
Who is a child star
who has not gone crazy,
gone to jail,
died,
like, is there
any game of his?
That one,
Miley Cyrus is a fair example. Miley Cyrus has fucking nailed it. However, her dad gone to jail, died about, like, is there any game? That one, the full house.
Yeah, Miley Cyrus is a fair example.
Miley Cyrus has fucking nailed it.
However, her dad was really famous,
and she wasn't really living in Hollywood
in a fucking douchey house like this.
She was living in Nashville.
How is this?
As is the transformer.
I'm just saying, are you going to be okay?
Billie Eilish, I feel like, is doing great.
Well, she's brand new.
She's brand new, and she's young.
Jessica Simpson. That's right. It was a's brand new and she's young. Jessica Simpson.
That's right. It was a rocky road.
But she's a pretty normal
wife right now. But she also
started doing the branding stuff.
You know what I'm saying? She stopped being sort of the face
of her business and started branding. So that's
what you'll do. I got it. Olsen twins.
Yeah, that's a fair one.
Aren't they like billionaire business people?
Still successful, mentally well.
They're not mentally well?
They're definitely successful.
I don't know.
They're wildly successful.
That's a great one.
Yeah.
How about the other one from Full House, though?
Mentally happy?
I don't know.
Not the Stephanie or whatever from Full House.
Do you know Full House?
The Full House, I think, had that issue.
I watched Full House, Different Strokes,
Fresh Prince of Bel-Air was my favorite show.
Oh, nice.
My parents would throw me a little bit.
Oh, Will Smith.
Boy Meets World.
Right, right, right.
Will Smith was a little bit Topanga.
I don't know.
Do you think that's fake?
Dude, I am so...
Cancel that motherfucker.
Dude.
You think it's fake?
Who?
I don't think it's fake.
I just think anyone.
The center's trust.
Any bitch who is going to come after General Mills, who has provided us joy for 40 years,
the product is $3.
It's easily.
Is this the shrimp thing?
Yes.
But we were there.
We were talking about it last night.
You fucking dork.
We think it's fake.
We think it's a work.
Because he's putting out a Netflix show now.
So it's like perfect.
It's a very strange time.
He's been at Hollywood Tool for a while, that guy.
How did he get Topanga?
Oh, because actresses are known for their wildly high self-esteem
and great choices with men.
Topanga, I feel like, he doesn't strike me as a high self-esteem.
He's like a Hollywood producer.
I used to have the fattest crush on her.
Yeah, she's awesome.
I was telling this last night. We did a the fattest crush on her. Yeah, she's awesome. I did.
I was telling this.
We did a party with her back in the day.
Yeah.
And I was just fat and kind of out of shape at the time.
And there's a website, Hot Chicks with Douchebags.
Oh, yeah.
I remember that site.
It was.
I love that website.
Muscle heads, tan.
Yeah.
And I took a picture with her.
And they just put me a set.
And I was wearing a brown fur.
Oh, you were in it.
Oh.
They said, hang her with a potato.
Oh, shit.
That was like the caption.
Now she looks back and is like, oh, I wish I had fucking gotten a ring from that guy.
Well, it sounds like she's doing pretty good with that, too.
I don't think so.
No, I think that he tried to come for General Mills, and then, like, girls in Hollywood
were like, oh, hell no, because he tried to come for General Mills.
You don't come after cereal.
That is a weird thing.
Easily the greatest cereal of all time.
That's breakfast choice.
What?
That's cinnamon toast crunch?
No, I'm not.
I don't fuck with cinnamon toast.
Oh, really?
What do you fuck with?
For like junk cereal?
Yeah.
Well, cookie crisp, but it's not even really.
Oh, that is so basic.
Apple Jacks, maybe.
I like Apple Jacks.
Cookie crisp is basic.
How do you not fire that, by the way?
You eat cookie crisp.
That's why you also hang out with 19-year-olds.
We need to work on your...
This is a podcast.
You should be eating Raisin Man.
All right, you're here.
You need Grape Nuts.
You're 44.
You're here for the same reason.
You need to get a colonoscopy this afternoon.
I have all the ammo.
I'm used to getting attacked by people.
You're in my demo.
You guys can go to the appointment together.
What is that old thing?
You're rubber.
I'm rubber.
You're glue.
Everything you say, bounce off me, sticks to you.
All my insults can go right back at you.
That was, oh, no.
That was like a Gilbert Godfrey.
The rubber glue?
I know.
Well, it's like you're hitting me in this.
It's like you're dressed like a deer.
No, you just did like an Andrew Dice Clay set.
You're rubber.
I think that's a compliment.
It is.
I'll take that as a compliment. Nine of your fans will get that. Andrew Dice Clay set. You're a rubber. I think that's a compliment. It is. I'll take that as a compliment.
Nine of your fans will get that.
Andrew Dice Clay?
No, we've had, so I'm 44.
So our audience.
Your stool is old on you.
I've been doing this for 20 years.
Yeah, I know.
So they started with me mid, how do you, you do know?
I do know you.
I'm really impressed by you.
You said that I was, what was the word you used?
Reckless.
Yeah, I like that.
You're dangerous.
How so? I like that
about you. Well, most people that like, you know, are forward facing of businesses and stuff,
they like play it safe and they're careful and they don't want to offend advertising. Like,
you're just very reckless and dangerous. And I like that about you. I mean, you're going to get
canceled any minute, but I'm... No, I don't. I don't. They tried to cancel me already. You're
kind of one of these uncancelable guys because it's just like, you're so reckless.
And I mean it in a good way.
I agree with most of what you say.
From what I know, I don't know everything.
But I like it about you.
There's kind of like the cancel myself mentality.
So how do you cancel me?
Well, you just, they're like, this is me.
Well, there's definitely jokes I've made that you can't make now or they're under way more scrutiny and I wouldn't have made.
But I like that you're a businessman that is like, I'm going to have a bunch of incendiary opinions and it's not going to affect my business.
It's actually going to build it.
So that's Comedians 101.
Yes.
And it was built without the thought of doing that.
It was just a very like, we always, our crowd knew who I was and continue to.
The people who don't like me come from the clouds.
Like, for example, during Black Lives Matter,
I got canceled or something, or tried to.
Which, by the way, you didn't get canceled.
No, we're here.
You're all here.
But it was something, there was a big hublock.
And I truly, truly didn't, like, I wouldn't, basically,
I don't know if, do you know the story of what got me in trouble?
No.
So here's the story.
We do Super Bowl parties.
Yes.
She walks off after this story.
No, no.
I can't be sitting next to you.
Are you okay?
I would never do this again.
I cancel her.
She has her whole life ahead of her.
I would never do this again, but I did it in real time.
Real time with Bill Maher?
No.
Not with Bill Maher.
I did this.
I made a video.
So we do Super Bowl parties every year, and we can't get like Justin Bieber and Taylor
Swift, so we have to be creative.
So we went old school.
By the way, you could. If you paid them, you probably could. That's. They are like, you't get, like, Justin Bieber and Taylor Swift, so we have to be creative. So we went old school. By the way, you could.
If you paid them,
you probably could.
That's...
They are, like,
you can get people like that.
Well, you can do anything
if you have the money.
If you have money.
Like, I could go to the moon
with Elon Musk
if I had the money.
Yeah, totally.
Totally.
We don't have the money.
Right.
So, ergo, we can't.
So we went old school,
Ja Rule and Ashanti.
Best concert ever.
Right.
To announce it,
and we do this every year.
I face the camera.
I'm like,
I'm going to sing
his top five songs. You guys guess who it'm like i'm gonna sing his top five songs you guys guess who it is yeah one of his top five songs has the n
word in it i sang the lyric they went back five years found it yeah and my thing was like i would
never do it again but i'm not that dumb like i knew it was going out to the internet yeah i didn't
mean intent yeah and for that's where it gets like so weird now on what you say.
So there's instances like that, probably 10 of them.
But I always trust my intent.
And it's like.
Yeah, intention and impact.
And it's also like I think a lot of people forget.
And like, I mean, please correct me if I'm wrong about this.
What is it?
22% of people are on Twitter.
Of that, 2% generate 80% of the comments.
Right.
So anyone who's really taking Twitter feedback seriously.
It's not coaching.
But also you're the,
like,
I mean,
with comedians
and cancel culture,
like,
we're the ones
exacerbating it
because we won't
stop talking about it.
True.
Stop talking about it.
Like,
you're the one
that's amplifying
all this.
Comedians are like,
I can't say anything.
It's like,
yes,
you can.
You're just,
I mean,
comedians,
like,
we're professional
complainers.
Right.
We'll complain about
Hot Pockets
for 45 minutes.
You know what I mean?
That's kind of the nature.
Do you know what I'm saying? So it's like, so any, our whole thing is like, freedom of speech, we should be able to. Right. We'll complain about Hot Pockets for 45 minutes. You know what I mean? That's kind of the nature. Do you know what I'm saying?
So it's like, so any, our whole thing is like, freedom of speech.
We should be able to say whatever we want, have any opinions we want.
But you're not allowed to have an opinion about my opinion.
Are you more careful in what you'll subject you'll touch now?
For sure.
For sure.
Because it's like some things just aren't worth it.
Right.
You know?
And if it's not in the context of a stand-up special.
So this is like incredibly dangerous.
Like, I don't know why you're doing this. I don't get it. It's not live. This is such a bad idea. It's not in the context of a stand-up special. So this is, like, incredibly dangerous. Like, I don't know why you're doing this.
I don't get it.
It's not live.
This is such a bad idea.
Yeah.
If you fucking edit any of this, I'm recording my own.
If you edit anything I say, I'm going to go back and air it myself.
We're pretty great with the zero, like, editing people.
Well, again, I trust, like, everybody.
I trust the more.
I don't say things that.
But I think you're, the reason I'm here is because I think your demographic is down with devil's advocate and down with people saying, like, comedians, we say things that are on purpose that aren't true
to have an interesting conversation.
When everyone agrees, it's just not an interesting conversation.
And it's always the intent.
That's right.
To me, it's the person trying to make you laugh and not every joke's going to hit.
But are they actually trying to, like, hurt someone's feelings?
But what I like about you is you go into dangerous spaces,
and that's what comedians do.
You're willing to go into dangerous spaces and be wrong
or have a hot take.
I appreciate that.
That's why you're you is because you're bold and you're reckless.
Here's a move that...
I mean, the jig's going to be up soon, but...
I don't know.
I mean, the fact that you're not just taking the money and running is wild.
You're so successful.
I'm fascinated with people that are rich but aren't just tapping out.
Like, what do you need that you don't have?
Well, I can't tap out.
So we sold, like, I sold, we've sold Barstool twice.
We sold it five years ago to Churning Group.
You probably know them.
Yes, I do.
Yeah, because they did, what's the show he had?
Peter Churning is one of the biggest TV producers in the world.
Yeah, but he had one.
Many, he had many.
But he has one.
It's like the other day when I was texting.
New Girl.
I was texting New Girl.
New Girl.
Yeah, New Girl.
Zooey Deschanel.
Deschanel.
She's on your head.
You can't say anything.
Oh, because I threw up a name?
I'm not exactly the first name guy.
I love you, dude.
But it's a form of respect to be able to talk to each other
like this, right? Yeah. No, but I like how he just
slings it. Like, he's not like a guy that's gonna dance around
the name and be like...
I'm on the verge, right before you came in,
of pulling a U move.
Hold on. I'm learning a lot from you because if I
just had a modicum of your confidence,
I would have accomplished all my goals so far.
I want to learn from you. I mean, you're doing pretty well.
I feel like you do. That's very nice. You guys, I feel like you're him and a female. Thank you. You don't think so? But I would have accomplished all my goals so far. I want to learn from him. I feel like you do. That's very nice.
You guys, I feel like you're him and a female.
Thank you.
You don't think so?
But I would never have the audacity to ask a busy, successful person to come to my house for free to be on my podcast.
That's true. I want your confidence.
All podcast things are free.
I know, but so many people owe me favors from so long, and I know that my podcast does enough numbers that I can help people.
So I'm still codependent.
So do you think you're doing, see, I think this is good.
So do we owe you a favor now?
No, I think this is good for you.
Michael Gruen owes me a favor, for sure.
Oh, see, I don't think so.
But here's the thing, because the amount of time
I turned around getting here.
If you guys said, hey, in two weeks will you do it?
That's different.
Saying, hey, can you move?
I had to move three productions today to be here.
So that, yeah, do you?
That's a weird thing.
By the way, I told Groen a hundred times,
we can do it Zoom.
Because you said, no, that doesn't do numbers.
Zoom's ridiculous.
No, Zoom...
I don't think Zoom...
Oh, we've never done it this way.
We've never...
Our whole podcast is Zoom.
You should only do it this way.
Where I'm in New York.
You should change that.
You should come out here in two weeks a month.
We'll work on it.
I don't fucking like it here.
Who wants to listen to a Zoom podcast?
The audio sucks.
I have to look at another script.
I mean...
I mean, I'll be in Miami.
No, no, we edit it up.
Yeah.
We edit it up.
Because I'm going to Miami.
Maybe ask the fans.
Do you guys like the Zoom podcast?
Totally.
It's better in person.
Then do that.
Well, again, you're saying you didn't want to drive 40 minutes.
No, I'm here.
Right.
But, I mean, we're across the country.
It's a little different.
Also, I don't think we're good.
See.
I don't think I'm doing you a favor, by the way.
Okay.
I'm doing Gruen a favor because I turned around so quickly.
See, I don't even think – I think this is good for you as well.
Thank you.
Because I mean –
No, all your incel fans are going to hate me after this.
There's no way this is going to go well for me.
There's a lot of Barstool fans that watch BFFs.
Yeah.
So they would like you.
And our crowd is very different.
That's why we did this.
We're not both like I wanted his crowd and he wanted our crowd.
And I don't know what crowd you want.
And I'm like the TikTokers, I would say like my fans are a little bit more on the side of not being super soft.
Interesting.
There's some like soft people in the TikTok world.
Big time.
They've seen it.
The comments are just like.
It's horrible.
Yeah, well, they do.
You can't make a joke on the app.
Right, right, right.
It's very hard to do.
But that's also, that's, but also this thing where, look, I'm like, come from traditional comedy and stand up.
And that's normal.
When we put our whole thing is we go on stage and people either laugh or they don't.
And they go, that fucking sucked.
That's part of it.
Oh, well, sometimes I know I'm funny.
I'm like, oh, that's funny.
Totally.
But feedback is part of doing comedy.
100%.
I'll rewatch myself.
I'm like, bro, that, yeah
But it just used to be in person
You know what I'm saying?
Where people go like, oh, I don't like that
You know what I'm saying?
Like it's part of doing comedy
This whole thing where it's like
Performers don't want any feedback all of a sudden
Is like, that's not what we're signing up for
We're signing up for a bunch of people going, that sucks
Like that's part of it
But you live here
But I mean like
It's like, dude, you live here
You're winning People love you If you're living but i mean like i mean dude you live here you're winning
people love you if you're gonna focus on the negative that's like a choice it's also like
i've never everyone's nice in public everybody's nice oh no one's ever mean everyone's only mean
online i've had a couple just i think just because the stigma is around tiktok i've had a couple guys
that walk by and what stigma it's like the wiggle dickers yeah or like the
the like frat guys or like all the every guy's just like tiktokers are pussies that's like their
go-to word okay to like saying on us okay um so it's just like sports can't play stealing girls
they shouldn't be it's like a new it's the whole like the whole like like they're all gay that's
what every day just like every male TikToker is gay.
I've had a couple times where I've been either sometimes...
Sorry.
I'm obsessed with people
that are as successful as you
in their brain.
What is it?
What happened to you as a child?
I have a gigantic brain.
You do.
You get bored so quickly. No, I don't. I just have a gigantic brain. You do. And your brain is incredibly fast. You also, you get bored so quickly.
No, I don't.
I was paying attention.
Is it an ADD thing?
But Howard Stern is like this too.
When he gets bored, he just changes the subject.
And he's the greatest interviewer of all time.
You don't know who that is, you should Google him.
Howard Stern?
I've heard of him.
You should really Google him.
I think we did him on Boomer Zoomer.
I think, you don't know Howard Stern?
I think if I like, was like the face,
I would be like, oh, that's Howard.
He's the one with the curly
Looks he looks king of all me. Yeah, if you want to talk for a living you should really
Get compared and I I'm not saying it's even category. Yeah as we were growing. They're like, oh, this is kind of like a new-age
Stern was okay. Were you a fan? I wasn't as big. I mean, I'm super aware of them, but I didn't listen growing up
I became more aware later.
We had an incident.
He trashed me.
Like, I was on his show.
This is early Barstool.
I didn't love that.
Yeah, yeah.
And then we had a serious station, but we never interacted.
I feel like I was too young to listen to him on radio when I was listening to radio.
He was the original.
That makes sense, right?
I listened to radio growing up.
That was a huge part of my life, I remember then like the big change when like everyone just went spotify
yeah apple music yeah but it was like well like i still use vcr when i was uh yeah that's surprising
to me he's got a quote a tribute to him eight that we use all the time it's like people who
love me listen for five minutes people who hate me listen for 10 that's like from uh that his
movie was but i like how you're polarizing polarizing it's good though polarizing is great yeah it is um but what who's like who's
whose career do you want i'm just fascinated by because you were talking about his hollywood
dead i'm gonna eventually try to make this somewhat cohesive whether you like it or not
no no um this is a good question and i i think that every iteration that we're seeing of fame
this kind of of we've had before whether it was MTV VJs,
whether it was commercial people that got famous.
I mean, the Old Spice guy.
They're the new boy band.
He got famous, that Old Spice guy.
It was like getting television shows off of some funny commercials.
The Dell guy did.
We've seen this before.
I've seen platforms come and go.
I've seen my space come and go.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like this isn't a new thing.
Correct.
Which is why I go like,
what's the plan and how are you not going to die in a murder or suicide or get a drug
problem? I don't think it's healthy to get this much money this fast. I think here's
the other thing. I already went through like a little bit of like a crazy party, like drinking,
TMZ, little like paparazzi phase. Because it's just like human being.
You know like the Justin Bieber phase that everyone goes through?
I already did that.
I'm just saying, totally, but I'm just saying,
when I was 19, I got to make a bunch of fucking mistakes in private.
I got to like...
Oh, mine were very...
But also now, you're only as successful as your creepiest friend.
So like, your friends might fuck up your future.
Is he my creepiest friend?
No, I'm just saying, oh, the Dobrik thing.
I just was looking at the David Dobrik thing. I would not claim him as my i know i'm just saying
no no i'm not saying you i'm just saying he did he seems like a good dude his too good his friend
fucked it up for him right well he i i always hate speculating because he seems fairly involved tell
me but i'm just saying if like a tweet from 10 years ago like i don't expect anyone at 15 to be
tweeting things that are
your thoughts at 15 are fucking should not be put on like i've had even like my friends that
like live in my house where like people have pulled up old things a lot like what happened
to you dave where like people are pulling up old like comments from when these kids were
one 13 14 years old yeah living in like kids like either like the south or like kentucky like just living in like small like shittier town like and like i Living in like, either like the South or like Kentucky,
like just living in like
small, like shittier town.
Like, and like,
I come from like kind of
like a small shitty town too.
And it's like,
you're kind of like,
you act like you're environment.
That is different now.
The girl from Teen Vogue,
should she have lost her job
because of tweets
that she posted?
That's the one we had,
correct?
When she was 15?
Isn't that who we had
on the show?
Who do you know?
The girl from Teen Vogue that was the editor of Teen Vogue.
Oh, I know who you're talking about.
I just don't think any...
All the thoughts I had when I was 15
up until probably 25
should never have been written down.
We're in an era now where
the social media has been around long enough
where there is a record
of what...
If anything I wrote in my journals
or that I thought was a good opinion when I was 15,
it's like don't make permanent decisions
based on temporary feelings.
See, I was lucky.
My parents had a rule until I was in ninth grade
where I was only allowed 30 minutes of screens
when I came home.
So it was like I got back from school.
My dad was a high school teacher
and this school was on my street.
He'd walk back home
and it would be like 30 minutes after I'm home
and he was like, get the fuck outside.
I don't want to
defend or answer for him, but the question
on what his, I think he's
one of the few that's very
hard to answer. I would love to answer it
if you want me to. Yes, please.
We do the whole not answering questions sometimes,
but I would like to answer. Because you
seem so kind and and I get worried.
Kind.
Because what goes up, I always am like,
just in seeing how the internet builds people up
and builds people up, and then just waits to tear them down,
waits for you to make a fucking one mistake.
Someone could already have a tweet from you years ago.
So here's the thing.
One, I blew up with the image of like, you can't cancel me mentality.
That was kind of like what we were doing.
You have an ex-girlfriend who you broke her heart, who one day just wants to cancel.
Like, do you worry about that?
I don't think so.
I mean, like, we really have been like.
I'm going to accuse you of rape in two years because I need to retire.
Wow.
Thank God.
That's a bold statement.
See, I'd be afraid to make that joke.
You just look like an ATM machine.
That's all I see.
You know in cartoons when people look at a person
and it just turns into a turkey above their head?
Yeah.
No, but I even look up to, I would say, Dave
when I look at where I want to go with my career and everything.
Same with Mark Wahlberg.
Like building a business.
Yeah, exactly.
Being behind the scenes.
And the pivoting they
bought those how smart is that the silly brands so like we just did an m&a with silly bands yeah
then i just know there's even more money to settle it's true even bigger settlement i want to accuse
even more now wow so it's like we i do a lot of things that are like on the entrepreneurial side
so i'm like i would say i'm one of the smarter creators that's actually setting myself up like
there's a lot of creators that are out here like buying seven cars. Yeah
We Floyd Mayweather openly says they're least like you guys are the right generations that are buying car. They're not buying them. Okay good
They're being I by the way, I openly tell everyone like I didn't pay for my car
Yeah, like I got a gifted to me. Yeah, it's like why the fool
The money it's never as much as you think.
I did a clubhouse.
I did a clubhouse with him yesterday night.
Yeah.
I was on a clubhouse little chat with him.
It's never as much as you think.
What?
Money.
Oh, yeah.
He's like, yeah, it is.
Well, depends.
But, like, do you want to do movies?
Do you want to do...
Yeah, so, like, when I look at, like, what makes Josh Richards, it's like I'm going to be a movie star with the production company.
Are you talking first person?
Is this a red flag?
This is already going south.
I didn't hate the way he answered it.
It's like Jimmy from South.
You think of yourself as a business.
Yeah.
That's amazing.
I mean, I've thought like that since I was, like, 12, 11 years old.
Love it.
And to be honest, I don't think we could, this podcast would work
if, like, we didn't have a similar, because there is obviously a huge age difference. A it. Love it. And to be honest, I don't think this podcast would work if we didn't have a similar,
because there is obviously a huge age difference.
A lot of TikTok people, I would never be able to do a consistent podcast.
Yeah, I'm going to toot my own horn.
I would say I'm the only TikToker you could do it with.
Probably.
I'm going to toot my own horn here for a minute.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, please, no.
No, no, I would say sometimes that happens.
No, but you're obviously incredibly talented.
It's like I'm just so curious because being...
I mean, I invest too.
Like, that's a big thing.
Bill Murray said, you know, about fame one time on Howard Stern.
This always, like, stuck with me.
Try getting rich and see if you still want to be famous.
Right.
So fame, for me, I just feel like fame, like getting more famous at this point could be a liability.
There's different levels, for sure.
Like, at what point do people go, okay, I'm famous enough,
I'm going to step away,
I'm going to be enigmatic,
I'm going to be mysterious,
I'm going to go away.
Did that happen to you?
Well, for me,
like a female comic,
like when I started coming up,
I mean, female comics
are like the most hated
species of person
on the planet.
But that's like
the cool thing about
like what you've done
is like you've broken
out of the stigma
and that's what I respect
so much of like
the whole like females
aren't funny thing. Like everyone always makes that joke. It's like a standard thing out of the stigma and that's what I respect so much of like the whole like females aren't funny thing like everyone always makes that joke it's like a standard thing
for like the female comedians but like you're obviously very funny thank you I would say we're
all laughing I don't know you guys seem to be I don't I don't love stand-up in general yeah it's
like hard there's this new thing where if you're funny people feel attacked because because now
people uh uh take jokes as facts You know what I'm saying?
They take them literally.
If you're just like, oh, because you're an idiot.
I'm not an idiot.
No, it was a joke.
Right, right, right.
People forgot how jokes work, at least on the internet, not in real life.
So are you going to tour?
So I actually already did do that.
Okay, how'd it go?
It was really fun.
I actually, like, I'm someone that loves that type of energy,
just like, and interacting with the fans.
And so what was it like to see your fans in person?
Like, was it what you expected?
Were they the age that you expected?
I think that's when I had, like, my first, like, what the fuck moment.
Like, I'm kind of, like, I'm a celebrity a little bit.
Yeah, a little bit, yeah.
Like, I have, like, people that really want to just, like, come pay for tickets to come see me.
Like, that was the craziest thing.
To be in the same building.
How do you look at that, by the way, celebrity?
So, like, I grew up in, like, Robert De Niro is an A-list celebrity.
Yeah.
DiCaprio is an A-list celebrity.
But then you get the TikTok people who are probably, and it really, I remember when TikTok
started, we had Charlie in our office.
I didn't know who she was.
She came to our school.
To meet you.
They're like, yeah, they're like, we have, like, who is this?
I have no idea.
Yeah.
Then someone showed me a video of her at a mall, and it was like the Beatles were there.
I mean, she was getting swarmed.
How do you look?
Like, do you consider, because he has the following variety,
but he's not the traditional, you know, star that we grew up with.
My thing, it's like, well, it's the kind of thing that when you have people that love you,
you better have a fucking product for them,
because they feel so invested in your fame.
What I'm learning is like, you know.
But A-list, B-list, C-list, like where do you put his level of celebrity?
True.
Actually, yeah, that is an interesting question.
Well, if I knew too much about you, again, like Chris Hansen should jump out and take
me to jail.
Like I've made a conscious effort to not know.
That's like Catch a Predator guy.
You do know.
He actually got in trouble.
Yeah.
He's a shitty guy, but. I don't think it was like Predator shit, but he's got in trouble. Yeah, he's a shitty guy. He did something.
I don't think it was like Predator shit, but he got in trouble.
Imagine if he got caught for being a predator.
That show was an all-time show.
But imagine he got caught for being a predator.
That would be Jeff's kid.
Here's why you're invincible.
All your shit anyone can get you on, you are out there.
100%.
I don't think people are out to cancel people.
We are an incredibly forgiving fucking...
Robert Downey Jr.
Like, woke up in a bed with a 17-year-old.
He's Iron Man.
We all forgave him.
We were like, I mean,
Mel Gibson has 14 movies in production.
Like, we're not, we don't really.
He's not my favorite guy.
I'm just saying, but we're actually very forgiving.
You know, I did a, I think maybe I told you this.
I did an independent film with Mel Gibson's son.
Whoa.
Like, weirdest, weirdest. How was that? Just, like, tie into this. Do you feel like film with Mel Gibson's son. Whoa. Like weirdest, weirdest just like tie into this.
Do you feel like people, because this is what happens on the TV side, which I'm quitting.
Your brain's all over the place.
You say jump around.
You're a mile mid.
Do you do Adderall?
I don't do Adderall.
This is like a natural ADHD thing going on here.
Well, no.
I just.
I'm like ADHD through.
I just feel like someone has to take control of the situation.
And it's not going to be you or you.
I feel like I have.
I'd like to hear from you at some point, Brie.
How are you doing?
I'm doing good.
Good.
Yeah, this is fun to watch everyone bicker back and forth.
I'm about to pull a you move.
I was trying to say it.
I had the call before you came out.
So someone blackmailed you with your boobs, right?
That's correct.
And you just put them out there.
Yes, I did.
Fuck, I love that.
That is the most baller move I have ever fucking heard.
I would do the same thing.
Did you do that?
No, I said I would.
If someone was trying to blackmail me.
It wasn't like even a nude that was like impressive.
I have so many impressive ones in there.
Then why would you put it out there?
I have the best, I got my boobs done by the best plastic surgeon in Hollywood.
They are incredible, except, I don't know what to tell you, it's the second women bend
over, you know how your boobs get like long? Like, you know what I tell you, it's the second women bend over,
you know how your boobs get long?
You know what I'm saying?
No matter how dope they are.
Sure, I guess.
Yeah, you get a little fluttery when you bend over.
You probably haven't seen a lot of real boobs.
You probably grew up with porn.
No, I've seen a lot of real boobs. So I was hunched over in a bath.
It was a screen grab of a video.
So I was just more annoyed that my tits didn't look as
good as they are. So did you take
a high quality
ring light, maybe production
like this? Do you know who it was? I didn't know who it was.
He got a screen grab of it
and he basically said of something that I accidentally
posted on Instagram stories when I was
high on edibles in the bathtub. I accidentally
posted it. You posted it?
Took it down. He had screen grabbed it a week before my special came out on Netflix.
He was like, here's a...
That sounds like I would accuse you of that being a work if you released a nude before...
That's what someone else said.
That's what someone else said.
It makes sense.
But she wouldn't release the good one first, right?
But he came at me a week before my special.
So why doesn't he get accused for capitalizing on the fact that my special is coming out?
Why do I get accused for it?
Well, that would be because you...
Everyone said it was a genius PR stunt.
That would be because the people who are saying
you're doing it are saying you made up the guy.
I know, but I screen grabbed the email.
People thought that me and Bryce were...
I know, totally, but in my day,
you just get success off your talent.
You don't do these, like, PR stunts.
Like, I would love to learn how to do them. I disagree. I think there't do these PR stunts. I would love to learn how to do them.
I disagree.
I think there are so many PR stunts.
I understand, but as a comic,
we just don't like to
take shortcuts.
I mean, there are full careers that are just
PR stunts. Do you think Elon Musk throwing the rock at the car
was a good stunt? Didn't you go on Last Comic Standing?
I was on Last Comic Standing.
That's a shortcut.
Didn't even get past the first round.
That is a shortcut.
My manager was the producer.
I was so in debt, I needed money.
And I made $1,000.
Shortcut, though.
When I was 22.
Just saying.
You said comics don't like shortcuts.
If you got selected, that's a shortcut.
I know, but I was 22.
No one at 22.
I didn't think I'd have that in my back pocket.
That's all right.
No, you did a deep dive.
But I wasn't on Last Comic Standing, also. I was in the... You didn't make it. I didn't make it. I was in my back pocket. That's all right. No, you did a deep dive. But I wasn't on Last Comic Standing also.
I was in the...
You didn't make it.
I didn't make it.
I was in the preliminary.
If you go on American Idol, that's a shortcut.
No, stand-ups doing stand-up anywhere is never a shortcut.
Stand-up is the hardest thing.
That is like them doing their craft.
Absolutely not.
No, but a game show.
Have any of you ever done stand-up?
Actually, I see what you're saying.
The difference between a game show and on stage.
You didn't get your fame by working in the club.
Nope, nope.
You went on a TV show.
You don't even get to go on Last Comic Standing
unless you can work in the club.
So as someone that thinks Last Comic Standing
is a shortcut in a corny show...
We're fucking wrong.
No stand-up is taking a shortcut.
If a stand-up has done stand-up at any point,
they're not taking a shortcut.
So you don't think that's a shortcut?
No.
That show.
I think it's corny, but I don't think
it's a shortcut.
Because I think
to become famous
as a comedian
before the internet
was so fucking hard,
a lot of people
who did Last Comic Standing
had been famous
in the comedy world
for 30 years
and they finally got a break
that they already
had deserved for 20 years.
So you don't think
then like American,
and in a singing show,
same philosophy,
a lot of them
are in bars and bands.
I just don't know enough
about the music business
to know what's merit-based
and what's not. I just don't know. Like, music business to know what's merit-based and what's not.
I just don't know.
Like, I don't know who deserves what in music.
I pretzeled you, and now you can't do that one.
What?
I put your brain in a pretzel.
You actually didn't, but...
We have the tape.
Yeah, no, but the tape?
Yeah, no, we have the tape.
Every now and then, you are 44.
All the tape.
I put that in the VCR.
First of all, I don't know how you knew the 44, because I just turned 44. All the tape. I put that in the VCR. This is, first of all, I don't know how you knew the 44,
because I just turned 44.
Okay.
Was that just a wild guess?
No, I Googled you.
Like three days ago.
No, I Googled you.
You did just that.
It said you were 44 on the internet.
I am.
No, but to answer your question,
I don't know enough about the music business
to know what a shortcut is for there.
Like American Idol, I don't know.
I think a lot of people deserve to be famous that aren't.
What do you think a shortcut is being a comedian?
Like being funny on Twitter and thinking you're a stand-up
or like lip-syncing and not.
Like if you can't go on stage and make people laugh for 45 minutes.
You're not a comic.
You're not a comic.
Just calling yourself a comedian is, like don't charge people money. Oh, I got to ask this question though. Yeah, you're not not a comic. Just calling yourself a comedian is, like, don't charge people money.
Oh, I got to ask this question, though.
Yeah.
I got to ask this question.
Remember what Quinn said.
Yeah.
And if you're not taking risks.
If you're a comedian.
Can I say one more thing?
Yeah.
If you're not taking risks.
Okay.
So that's the other thing.
Like, Shane Gillis.
I would say Quinn takes risks, though.
Yeah, she does.
Like, Shane Gillis, like, whatever he was working, if he had done that on a stand-up
stage, and it was like, it's context, too.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, you can say something about whatever,
trying to, or whatever.
If you're on stage, it's the same thing with roasts.
Like, if I...
That's, I love you on roasts.
Thank you.
If I come and we're just having dinner
and I'm just like roasting, I'm just being mean,
but in the context of a roast, I'm just doing my job
and everyone has the same expectations.
I think now everyone's expectations are so off,
it's hard to know when you're, can't read anything.
So this is going to be my question every time we have a comedian on every single time. I know it's
It's a bad idea
Does it come in like we're combative just fine right? Okay fair enough
Does a comedian have to say they're a comedian?
Like do they have to publicly be like I'm a comedian or like does that kind of defeat the purpose of being a comedian?
Cuz you're just supposed to be funny?
Like, in what?
Like, in your bio?
Just, like, out there a lot.
The goal is that it's just obvious.
If you have to say you're a comedian, it's like when people have to, like, say there's something too many times.
It's like, what's going on with you that you need to prove?
I don't know.
In what context?
We had someone more of, like, a standard question.
We had a dispute.
Do you think you're trying to be funny right now?
I think I'm trying to keep my head above water.
Right.
It's like an alert.
With us, you mean, right here?
Well, no, because I think your fans want to hear more from you than they want to hear from me.
No, they get funny about us.
I feel like I'm just trying to get my questions answered about you guys.
Interesting. See, I don't get the vibe you're trying to be my questions answered about you guys. Interesting.
See, I don't get the vibe you're trying to be funny.
You're just funny.
Thank you.
Which is what I am.
But that's what funny is.
But also.
Whenever people, you know those kids in school that were like.
That's why I don't like stand up.
But fuck funny, dude.
Anyone can go on YouTube or TikTok anytime and see funny whenever they want.
We're competing with cats, like singing, dancing to Beyonce.
I think that interesting is the new. For a podcast, I think like singing dancing to beyonce like i think that interesting
is the new for a podcast i think the goal is to be interesting yeah no but that was kind of like
what i where i was going is like you know those kids in school that like you'll you'll see them
and they're not trying to be funny at all they're just like doing their regular like everyday thing
and like you just start dying laughing yeah that's the funny shit but then they go and try to be
funny because they see you like laughing at them or. And then you're just like, ugh.
It's all context.
So it's like, if I'm on stage last night and I do 20 minutes on a lot. How often do you stand up?
Let me get to that.
We are in a period.
I feel like we should go to a...
I just want to answer this question.
The people that are listening have such emotional blue balls at this point because we're not finishing.
I'm just trying to be pissed.
Yeah, everyone's listening ready to be like,
okay, finally, they're going to finish.
I mean, I'm sure your audience is used to this case.
But if I go on stage and I'm talking about martial sports
and TikTok and joking and everything,
and then I come here and do the exact same thing,
I'm going to be corny, I'm going to be forcing it,
I'm going to be hacky.
Do you have to re. There's no audience.
You don't have a little bit of a routine
at all? Of course I do. But not when I come to a
podcast. Right. Because the last
thing I want is people to go, Whitney tried to be funny
and she's corny and she's annoying. She did this already
in her Netflix special. She's obnoxious.
If you brought your sex robot, people would have been like,
come on. I should have.
I remember my favorite comedian
stand-up, and I don't like a lot of them.
You can do it.
Yeah, I got rid of mine.
It's Chris Rock.
I think he's like the best to ever do it.
But I was stunned.
So I was like, I'm going to go see Chris Rock everywhere.
And I was in college.
I went, saw him, then saw him.
And I was stunned, and this is just me being an idiot,
that like everything was the same.
It was like going to a concert.
I was like, wait a minute, I've heard the timing,
the mannerisms, all of it.
That was like, I didn't know that at the time.
It's something that we compose.
But it really is a show.
It's a live movie.
That's why comedians are good actors.
Saturday Night Live in New York is a favorite thing I've ever watched.
Because you're basically pretending you're coming up with it every night.
I'm fascinated by you.
If anyone's like, oh, Whitney's disrespectful to TikTok,
people who are TikTok stars, I have so much respect for what you guys do because what we do,
we work on it for eight months. We have eight months to figure it out,
get it right, then we shoot it four or five times, then we intercut it, make sure
it's great. We get to get it and edit it, then put it out. You're just shooting stuff
in 20 minutes and putting it out.
I don't have that skill. I'm completely
fascinated.
You do, and I don't
follow you enough on social media.
I feel like if you put...
You're welcome. If you put...
Maybe you're doing it, but if you went on TikTok,
any platform, and you were just, I'm going to make minute
vignettes of me being very funny,
I feel like you would be very popular doing that.
Maybe you'd do it. I don't know enough about TikTok.
Like, I just don't. Wait, whoa.
I'm not on anything.
We're about to make you owe us a favor here.
So Dave's about to make you owe us a favor.
Just get on TikTok.
What are you doing?
Just put, like, you literally would have
a hundred videos from, like, just your Netflix. I just need to know, like you literally would have a hundred videos from like just your Netflix.
I just need to know, like there's people on TikTok that have eight million followers on TikTok, but only 20,000 on Instagram.
Well, no, no, no, no, no.
That's not true.
I'm not fakers.
You know what it is?
Here's here's what it is.
And this is like something like I figured out really early in social media.
But there's like two types of creators, right?
There's people that create content
and they create like viral content.
So those are like, a lot of the times,
they're really like clean, cringy people.
How did you just make your hair worse by fixing it?
Sometimes it just happens, you know?
That was incredible.
Like, see?
Anyways, it's drying.
I had like this stupid perm.
At some point, you're going to hit her back
with the fact she has blue hair.
Blue hair?
I know, the fact that you're not really having me.
I have the smirk jokes.
I have the dicks look like she's trying to be young again.
I got a catalog here, and I'm just like, she looks straight out of Riverdale right now.
It looks like she just came off of a set of Riverdale.
I don't even know what that show is.
The funny thing is, I'm too old for you to hurt my my feelings because I don't even know what the references are.
I didn't even know what you were talking about.
God damn it.
You can't even hurt me.
Sorry.
So there's two kinds of creators.
Yeah, so there's like the people that are like pretty cringy
is just what I would call it.
Horny.
The little kids like it though, right?
Like if you're from four to eight,
which is weird that those people are on social media.
It's easy to watch.
It's easy to understand.
But it's like whatever.
Yeah, four to 12. Translates internationally. Because are on social media. It's easy to understand. But it's like, whatever.
Yeah, four to 12. Translates internationally
because you have to
translate internationally.
Exactly.
They have the Brazilian.
They have like all those fans, right?
Asia, whatever.
The thing about those fans, though.
What?
When you make like a, you know.
Who has to translate internationally?
Like Lele Pons.
No, there's TikTokers
that are big in other countries.
Talking about it.
What do you mean,
what am I talking about?
Your fans aren't all
from the United States.
This is a global platform.
You can check, too.
Dude, I mean, like,
I could literally pull up,
I think my biggest city
is in Brazil.
For real?
I mean, like...
What good does that do?
Most of the...
Okay, Amanda Cerny
goes to India
for a month a year.
I think she hates me.
Amanda Cerny.
I wouldn't be...
I mean...
Why?
I can't imagine
anyone hating you.
Actually, she...
Come on.
Does she hate...
Who is she? Hold on. Does she hate... Who is she?
Hold on.
Like, a lot of these fans are international, right?
Yep.
They're not all American.
Full stop.
Like, do you know your metrics of where everyone is?
I give you the best advice.
That's what Barstool's good at, by the way.
Like, you should be on...
We morph quickly to the platforms to get the police out there.
So, my second biggest city is New York now, by the way.
Oh.
Which is sweet.
But my biggest is Sao Paulo or whatever the fuck that is.
Uh-huh.
Are you going to go there?
Because that's where your fans are.
I mean, 1% of 7.3 million people is a great amount of people for that city, I'm sure.
Right?
Like, for a city like that.
Yeah, you should go there.
If your fans are there, you have to go there.
Mexico City.
That's Amanda Cerny.
Really?
Yeah.
She's a model.
She was big on Vine, and she's a big content creator and, like, YouTuber.
This is not who I thought he'd be.
Oh, no.
I don't think she hates anyone.
She's awesome.
Yeah.
But I'm just curious, like, in your business plan, do you go, okay, these are where my
fans are.
I go there.
Like, how...
We look at that for, like, definitely, like, speeches.
If you go to, like, a paid speech.
Or, like, if there's, like, maybe content.
A lot of times, like, the travel, like, you know how there's, like, travel Mexico or whatever, right?
There's, like, the traveling tourism companies down there.
Sure.
They'll pay.
They'll pay for us to go.
Yeah.
You just had an epiphany.
What did you find?
I got to ask this,
which is crazy.
I don't want to,
because we're doing Alex Cooper next.
Love her so much.
So you have this tweet,
because I was in the middle of that,
and right here.
Yeah.
The Caller Daddy girls need to call me.
I'll sort this out.
Yeah.
When I saw that,
that's when I really sort of got to know you.
So why didn't you ask Dave? He asked you. Well, that was chirping. Like I get on Twitter. I get in.
I get the fuck out. I don't hang out there. That was she's like anyone doing anything
good on Instagram live during the quarantine. I was doing the unboxing, which was like you're
doing a fab fit. How are you going to how much money like we need to who is stealing
from you that you're still doing things for money?
Me?
We need to talk to your business manager.
I wasn't doing...
I do it for content.
Yeah.
It's like we run a company.
And like...
Dave's the man of the company.
I didn't answer it.
We sold our company.
Great guy.
My sister.
We sold our company.
I signed a five-year contract.
So like, I don't own any equity in Barstool anymore.
I own it in this company called Penn, which it's been great.
But it's a gambling.
So it's like a five-year vest?
It's a five-year vest, yes.
I'm fascinated by what drives people.
And you have an incredible drive, and I'm just fascinated.
And also, you know that, like, is the statistic 30% of people in the top 1% of every field
are psychopaths or sociopaths?
So I always like to...
I'm more psycho than sociopath.
I don't think you're a sociopath.
I hope not.
No, you show emotion.
No, a sociopath knows.
A sociopath doesn't show emotion.
That's right.
He doesn't feel empathy.
But a psychopath, the difference, I believe, just because I've dated a lot of them,
and I've been in the business of Hollywood for 15 years.
But sociopaths can almost deliver fake.
But they can be very highly functioning.
And a lot of the people that we come in contact with on a daily basis
just statistically are psychopaths and sociopaths.
A lot of people have told me I have sociopathic tendencies, which I don't know.
Someone said that about you?
Michael tells me it all the time.
Oh, why?
Okay, you're going to.
He's a psychopath.
Don't listen to anything.
Oh, by the way, like, I very much just like been like.
The fact that you're taking advice from someone that's smoking Marlboro Reds with his pants open is wild.
Well, it's usually just the flies down or something.
Yeah, that's that you can't do that in a business setting.
But it's awesome because it's just like...
Do you guys have an HR department?
Yes, our school does.
It's just like...
I like the number.
I'm remembering all these things now,
and this could go on for hours.
Really, we could do like a three-hour special.
That's what I said.
We had a TV show that was getting pitched,
and you know what was the one that...
Why would you do TV?
This was years ago.
You would lose money in TV.
No, this was years ago, but it was Chelsea Handler's, the show that I wanted to be.
Chelsea Handler meets Pardon the Interruption, which is a sports show.
You were on that as well.
She's, I always thought was brilliant.
I don't know now.
She seems a little off the reservation.
Well, I think comedians feel this pressure to be like political
or something. Yes, that's where she was like
which is if that's your thing, that's like
great. But I think comedians like comedians
in my
I would like to just stay funny all the time.
You don't need to know how to vote. You don't need to know.
If you're in that field, though, you should probably just
be like. I always say with us, people
don't believe, but I use the Michael Jordan quote with us
like blue shirt, blue states and red states buy T-shirts from us.
So I want them all buying.
I want all tickets online.
My job is not to preach to you or tell you you're wrong
or that you vote wrong.
My job is just to make you laugh.
And if I can't do that, I've failed.
I mean, for me, it's pretty easy
because every time I'm just like, I'm Canadian.
So when they hit me, they would easy out.
Because I've done a couple.
I was on Fox Business.
Stay out of politics. I was on Fox Business, and they hit me like they would easy out because I've done a couple like I was on like Fox Business stay out of politics
I was on like
Fox Business
and they hit me
randomly like
we were doing
a whole
we were doing
like a whole
like it might have
been talking about
a trailer or something
and then
out of nowhere
they're like
so what do you think
about like Trump
and something like that
and I was like
I just pulled the like
I'm Canadian man
what are you talking about
yeah yeah
you owe no one anything
be as mysterious
as possible
I interviewed Trump,
so that definitely put me in the people,
but they didn't listen.
It doesn't matter.
If you go on Fox News,
people say you're one way.
If you do something else, it's done.
Do you think the media,
since we're getting two sets of media now
and you're this media mogul,
what's going to happen
given the fact that people are getting two sets of news
and are operating on different sets of facts?
Do you think that media should be private?
I think social media is going to become
just more and more everyday than new media.
It's the news.
Because people are going to want to man...
But people are doing things that aren't true.
Do you know what I'm saying?
It used to be like journalists,
they had to vet it,
they had to fact check it,
and then they put it out.
Now people that don't know what they're talking about
are saying things and it looks true.
I don't know.
People believe this.
But I feel like people don't like... I don't know that that's talking about, are saying things and it looks true. I don't know. People believe it. But I feel like people don't like.
I don't know that that's true.
I think there's obviously.
You think everything QAnon people post is.
No, no, no, no.
What you just said is true.
I agree.
I'm just saying I can go and find.
Everybody has an angle.
And lying, trying to create this.
I don't know that Candace Owens isn't right.
I don't know.
I don't think that's new.
That's all I'm saying.
That's interesting.
I think that's been going on forever, but social media.
Just to amplify it or show it.
Correct.
But I think from the beginning of time, who's ever controlling media?
That's true.
They have an angle.
And what is it?
History is told by the winner.
An emotive.
Yes.
You're right.
You're right.
I just don't think that's a new thing.
It's just.
And headlines have always been clickbait, even when it was a newspaper.
Extra, extra read all about it. That's true. It's just... And headlines have always been clickbait, even when it was a newspaper. Extra, extra, read all about it.
That's interesting.
So, but it's definitely, and I firmly believe, like, I hate the extreme left.
I hate the extreme right.
I think 98% of the people are normal in the middle, but everything is torn apart.
And it sucks.
But we also have to stop focusing so much on that tiny sliver on Twitter because that's
our narcissistic addiction.
100%.
100%.
If Alex Cooper is coming, I mean, what more could he possibly want from me?
Well, how are you going to fix that?
What?
You said you wanted to fix Call Her Daddy.
Oh, no.
This was during the fight.
Yeah, right, right, right.
Well, because it was like, I think it was like right during the ambiguous time where
they didn't know if they were going to go forward.
And it was just my way of going, I'll be the co-host.
Did you listen to that?
Did you listen?
I didn't listen to it, but I watched Alex's video and I was totally taken with her.
She's a monster.
She's a star.
Yeah.
I'm just a fan.
And it is my goal to get famous wearing hoodies.
So she is, in my day, you had to fucking try.
You keep, Alex people would wear what you wear.
I had to wear fucking push-up bras and mini skirts from 20 to 30.
That's very true.
It's different.
Women couldn't dress like this and be on television or have opportunities.
Like, I come from the time where you had to, like, show up and be a little thot,
and you had to, like, flirt in order to be on camera.
Like, I would pull a full Sharon Stone.
If this was 10 years ago, I'd be in a miniskirt just, like, showing my pussy.
You know why?
You're pretty.
Thank you.
So you got caught because, and I'm not saying she's not, but there's, I forget the name,
there's a comedian, female, black glasses.
Don't drag me into this.
Don't drag me into this.
No, black glasses.
I'm not on.
Black hair, very funny, but she dressed very drab.
Sarah Silverman?
No, I like Sarah Silverman.
She's thought of as, I mean, she's stunning.
Yeah, no, that's not what I'm
talking about oh um she starred in Boston or did a lot in Boston black hair black hair black round
glasses um black glasses Charlie uh female she probably is not too many female comedians right
that's okay you don't I mean but you're about to say something that probably shouldn't be said so So let's just switch. Now's the time to change the subject. You said you had to wear push-up bras and look sexy. She did not. Right. No, I mean, I'm saying as an actress, not as a comedian. Oh. As a comedian is the opposite. The comedian, I had to neuter myself and wear hoodies and no makeup. So you tried to be an actress first. Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah. I had a TV show called Whitney for two years. Oh, I did see that, though. Yeah, your parents probably saw it.
Your dad's probably jerked off.
Oh, you're on this thing.
Nice.
All right.
My parents both listen to this podcast.
No, they don't.
No, they do.
They just shit on it.
I take that back.
This podcast is a shit ton of shit.
Yeah, they're going to watch it together, actually.
They're either going to love me or hate me.
I'm taking that back.
They're going to be like, thank you.
They're going to be like, thank you for parenting.
Thank you for telling my son to clean the house.
There's a shit ton of funny female comedians.
I'm taking that back on this list.
Yeah, we already knew that.
But stand-ups are, there's SNL comedians, there's sketch comedians, there's stand-up comedians.
Oh, her.
Who's the one that did the movie, like, who's the bigger girl that's like.
Melissa McCarthy.
Melissa McCarthy.
And I mean, I'm not saying.
Is she a comedian?
I'm saying in my day to be on TV to be like a host to be on to look like
Ruffalo Jimmy Garofalo was a fucking movie star dude. She was a movie star reality. Yeah. Yes. She was reality bites
That what was she did movie with Uma Thurman?
I mean that was back when like if you were a successful comic you became a movie star What was a movie star Pauly Shore was a movie with Uma Thurman. I mean, that was back when, like, if you were a successful comic, you became a movie star.
Whoopi Goldberg was a movie star.
Pauly Shore was a movie star.
He was.
He was.
You don't have to have liked the movies, but he was a movie star.
I don't know if I've ever seen such a, like, spit take.
That was preposterous.
That is a little bit.
If you are number one.
That is a little bit.
True?
Just too true? Pauly Shore is a movie star. He was are number one. That is a little bit. True? Just too true?
Pauly Shore is a movie star.
He was a movie star.
He was in movies.
He starred in movies.
He did.
Number one on the call sheet.
Who's water is that?
Number one on the call sheet.
What's that?
Is this your water?
I think someone might have gotten it from me, but it feels a little bit like.
Groovy blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't.
I'll test it out.
Get out of here alive.
Whitney just went night, night.
Yeah, right.
But yeah, no, he was a movie star.
You can't pretend Encino Man
and all those whatever
G.I. Joe, G.I. Tract
wasn't real.
I'm not happy about it either.
Pauly Shore is a movie star.
He was a movie star.
If you starred in a movie...
Can you look up Pauly Shore?
His movies were massive at that time.
Because here's the thing.
People got so famous.
I feel like TikTok's the new MTV.
MTV was the biggest thing in the world when I grew up.
Now it's TikTok.
Right.
You're a superstar.
By the way, you didn't answer the question.
Don't turn out like this is all I'm saying.
You didn't answer the question of where you put me in the category of A, B, or C-list celebrity.
Because I'm not totally sure yet.
Because I do know that in TV for the last couple years
in casting, that we'll
be like, oh, we're casting this part and they'll go like,
can we get this TikTok star or this one?
And then they learn that
the numbers don't translate.
You need more than just
like, and this goes to the
two creators thing.
This goes to the two creators thing too.
That's how I judge it.
If a creator on TikTok has big on other followings,
then I assume they're legit.
If they don't, then I don't trust them.
Do your fans want you for free like this,
or will they actually go find you,
tune in at a certain time,
and help another show that is not just yours?
I mean, I think my fans help the show.
They follow, yeah, yeah, for sure.
They'll probably follow,
like Liza Koshy's will follow her to your show,
but if you're on fucking Modern Family,
are they going to go, okay, where is that?
They will.
I just don't know.
They do.
I think so because...
I think they should.
They follow me to Barstool.
They follow me to WFA and Radio Hits.
Do they even know how to find ABC, though?
Do they even know what ABC is?
Oh, that's a different question.
I mean, yeah.
No, but I don't know if I could. If you gave me a remote, I don't think I could find ABC. I Do they even know what ABC is? Oh, that's a different question. No, but I don't know
if I could.
If you gave me a remote,
I don't think I could find ABC.
I just go to Netflix
or I just go to Apple TV.
But I also think
where you're going to be seeing
a lot of TV is going to change.
That's true.
I also think that there's
going to be a lot of SVODs.
Someone's just going to
Google modern fans.
He's an exception.
There's few of them,
but there are there.
I'm on his side.
I'm just saying,
do your fans even watch
traditional television?
I don't know if they do.
I don't know if they,
I mean, like,
I can't answer that question.
They do.
I bet they follow you.
I'm sure they,
I'm sure, yeah, they do.
But they watch whatever
the fuck they do.
If Riverdale says
we want you to come
do five episodes.
I probably would say no.
You know why?
Because of where
I want to go with my brand.
I don't think that matches my brand.
I'm going to follow a brand.
I'm not going to just start doing things left and right because it's a bag.
Wow.
You know what?
But there's no money in TV.
The boxes.
If you executive produce, too, though.
And I have a production company with Mark Wahlberg.
So I get the double hedge.
You almost made a face.
Nope.
Nothing surprising in TikTok anymore.
I know how the TV business works.
I mean, if you're creating it and if it gets syndicated, you'll make money.
But the celebrity boxing.
Or unless you have a deal.
You could probably get like a big deal, like an overall deal.
No, because I decided I didn't want to do that.
So like I could have either went to like a random like warrant, right?
Why are you going to produce for other people?
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
I could have done that, got a big check this is this is do be 50 cent that that's
as i'm saying vitamin like this is this guy is fucking i'm gonna be working for you one day it's
gonna be so embarrassing when you're my boss no i decided like this is my future i feel like kind
of like i mean like with with dave a little bit like it's the same with mark it was like going
to team up with this like whole like what the fuck
who's gonna guess that i'm gonna do this collaboration like no one saw this no this
coming no one ever saw that smart and then it's the same with the marketing like they're everyone
just started going crazy like headlines everywhere there was like a bunch of even like tiktoks being
but a lot of older people are going to try to use you to be relevant i'm not saying that's what i'm
not saying that's what what mark is i'm just saying like it I'm not saying that's what Mark is doing. I'm just saying, like, it is... You're saying that's what Dave's doing. Yeah, well,
because he's a smart businessman. I need to learn how to do this.
I'm not doing a podcast with somebody who doesn't bring us something. No, this is a fascinating...
Yeah, exactly. It's why I'm here. It's a fascinating combination. And you,
and why are you so normal? Good parenting? Very good parenting. Okay.
And, like, that hit me a little bit when you said I didn't have good parenting because of the cleaning thing.
I'm going to be...
Oh, that was a joke.
I know it was a joke.
Yeah.
But my parents are going to be a little...
But I wasn't on camera for that.
It was before.
I didn't say it on camera.
Was it before?
Yeah, yeah.
He's on camera so often that he doesn't even understand, like, a conversation that's not recorded.
Like, to the point where, like, you don't even know I'm on camera literally all the time.
I know,
but I purposely said that
off camera
because I,
you know,
he doesn't even understand
the concept
of a private conversation.
Oh,
I don't know how to wrap this up.
Do you censor all of our conversations?
Okay,
we got to wrap it up.
It's an hour.
It's a straight hour.
So for everyone listening,
I'm so sorry.
There's no way
this is going to have
gone well for me.
But thank you for having me. I think people are really going to like you. Very pessimistic. I think so too. There's no way this is going to have gone well for me. But thank you for having me.
I think people are really going to like you.
I think so, too.
Very pessimistic.
No, I just think coming onto other people's podcasts,
I always am like, they don't want to hear from me.
They want to hear from you guys.
I have one more question I need to ask.
Have you ever just bombed?
Just bombed a show, booed offstage?
Not booed offstage.
But the first, like, eight years
of doing stand-up, you're basically
bombing, and if you're not bombing
even after you're famous, you're not taking
risks, and you're not doing anything new, and you're not
performing for people that aren't your fans. So
the biggest thing right now, challenge for comedians now,
is, like, we are going back on the road. Theaters
are going to be open in the fall, but
comedy clubs aren't open in a way that, like,
you know, Chris Rock goes out of,
part of the reason he's so fucking good
is, like, he goes out of his way
to stop by the comedy store,
midnight on a Tuesday,
people that are not there to see him,
they weren't expecting him,
they didn't pay,
and then it's, like, it's fair again,
because you'll plateau
if you don't constantly put yourself in front of audiences.
You've got to always push yourself, though.
Totally.
So it's like if someone's already paid $100 to come see you,
they're already invested in laughing,
and you can kind of, you know, like, you know, but if you go in front of someone else's audience, if I if I walked on stage on one of your shows, I'd have to.
That's different. I'd have to fight tooth and fucking nail. And that's when you really find out if I'm a good comic or not. Not if I can make people that already love me laugh. I already have them. But if I can go and get your fans to me, that's that's a true comic. So if I open for you, I'd probably eat shit for the first 15 minutes and i'd have to fight tooth and nail to get them to laugh i don't know so you should always be bombing
you should always be right or else you're not trying it's it's the same thing with like social
media when you add depth going on to like this podcast first like first podcast i did there was
like definitely some guys that like still pulled the whole like josh is a pussy and like i'm not
gonna fuck with the tiktoker but then slowly and surely
like you see
like comments
were starting to be like
oh actually fuck
with this Josh kid
he's a normal kid
like he's the one
TikToker I think
I could probably
just like hang out
and drink a beer with
like those type of shit
but you should be
if you're not getting
haters and people
being jealous of you
you're not
you're not doing anything
it's part of it
polarizing again
going back to that
you're going to be rich
and famous at 19
and everyone's going
to love you
like it's never,
it's just this is the deal.
No, I don't think
I really get affected
by the like hate too much
too because like
I started social media
when I was 14 though.
So like I was hated
in my high school
just like going
through high school.
But also,
but people who aren't
TikTokers were
because my last name
was Cummings.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
It had to be quite a big deal.
You know what I'm saying?
Everyone gets bullied
for something.
Right.
It might as well be he's a fucking famous TikToker. That's the best thing to gets bullied for something right it might as well
be he's a fucking famous tiktoker that's the best thing to be bullied for that's very true
yeah look back on it but it's like it's not great to get roasted for like uh
you're you're a kid trying to do musically and you have like 20k followers yeah that's when it's
like it's good it's toughing you up and prepared oh yeah thank all those haters be like thank you
for making me strong because now you're gonna oh and over the world. Oh, and I always say if I wasn't the kid doing the musical.ly, I would have been the kid making fun of the musical.ly kid.
Because you also need some adversity.
It's good that you had a little bit of adversity so that you can, you know.
Of course.
Thank my friends all the time for making fun of me, too.
Yeah.
When you started, yes.
All right.
I know we have to wrap this up.
I'm glad you can.
I apologize to your fans.
You have 40 minutes.
Now you're going to go back?
Apologize to your fans. Our fans are going to like you. I'm apologizing to them. I think everyone's going to like you. So now, like you. I apologize to your fans. You have 40 minutes. Now you're going to go back? Apologize to your fans.
Our fans are going to like you.
I'm apologizing to them.
I think everyone's going to like you.
So now, like you,
all right, how many...
They want to hear you talk.
I mean, we're...
I'm kind of like the mediator.
Okay, yeah.
How'd this go?
How'd this go?
It was good.
She got added late
to the podcast.
Yeah, I got added.
It was awesome.
But like, great idea.
The amount of people
I've had come up to me
and rounded it out.
Great idea.
We needed a female...
We needed the female perspective.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, no, you let her talk a lot.
She's really, her perspective is really.
Well, you sucked all the air out of the room.
I felt like the wind was knocked out of me this whole conversation.
I was like, I was gasping.
Also, my podcasts are like three hours long.
I kind of do what Rogan does, and it's sort of like, but now I'm feeling like.
I can tell your podcast is three hours long because I feel like I could
win three hours.
For people, let's be fair.
Name your podcast and when does it air?
Or do you do a rotating schedule like he does
and you just drop it whenever? I do.
It's called Good For You Podcast. It comes out every
Wednesday, Wednesday nights.
So who are the last bunch of guests you've had?
Kevin Nealon.
I'd like to mix it up.
So I had like Hannah Stocking.
I don't know who that is.
Okay.
You guys?
Yeah.
Social media?
Yeah, yeah.
Hannah, like I did a bunch of social media.
You had Liza.
Liza Koshy I just had on.
Kesha.
Dude, dude, Liza was David's ex.
Yes.
You asked her about that?
I did.
What'd you say?
But I asked her, I basically was like, hey, this is all anyone ever asks you about.
I'm not going to ask you about it because I think you deserve to know.
Oh, I think he meant like the recent rape allegations.
No, I had Liza on before all that.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then Paris Hilton was on.
I'm already not getting shot.
This means someone more since Alex.
It means that we've run way long.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you can Google it and find it,
and then we can let you guys go and do your next podcast.
Sweet.
All right, thank you.
Thanks, guys.
What a pleasure to meet you guys.