BFFs with Dave Portnoy, Josh Richards, and Brianna Chickenfry - THOMAS PETROU ON DAISY KEECH LAWSUIT, THE HYPE HOUSE DOC, & LIL HUDDY — BFFs EP. 41

Episode Date: July 28, 2021

Thomas Petrou joins the BFFs to talk about what happened with Daisy Keech, the upcoming Hype House documentary on Netflix, and his relationship with Chase Hudson. We play a game of "Would You Let Them Into The Hype House" with some of your favorite influencers.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/bffspod

Hey BFF listeners, you can find us every Wednesday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. What's up boys and girls, welcome to the BFF's YouTube channel. Make sure you guys tap the bell, subscribe, like the video, and comment down below. Okay, BFF episode, no Josh, we don't know where he is. He's missing in action. Yeah, I'm all'm in. I'm all suited up in Arizona. We got an announcement coming up. And frankly, the lighting, I think,

is making me look gross. So I should have skipped this one. But it is what it is. So it's just me and Brie. We have a Thomas Petro interview and we'll go through the highlights on TikTok world. So we get the first teaser of Addison's movie, which, have you seen it yet, Brie? Yeah, she seems like the only person on TikTok that can actually act. It was actually impressive. Okay, let's see it.

I haven't seen it. Makeovers are my thing. I will create the next prom king. No, but I do think it'll be fun watching you try. A bet? We'll pick the guy. He is a total disaster. Weird.

Antisocial. I don't want to stare at your underwear while i eat dirt bags just wait until it's so short that's like the only small clip that they've put out about it they tried to get a guy who's not gonna be good looking but he's even good looking when he's not supposed to be good looking i know that's what they do yeah well that transformation did nothing for me i guess i don I don't know. That was a two-second teaser, so I don't know what the fuck we're supposed to get from that. Again, Bryce loves kissing the homies. We talked about this last episode. He's doing it again.

He's doing it again. I think it's just a bit at this point where he's kissing as many people as he can. All right, and we have Tana's friend ari and bryce kissing so this is like the sus one that everyone's like okay maybe he actually has something going on because they kissed like four times yeah and it was like a paparazzi video. But there, so there was like rumors. I don't know how true it is. I wish Josh was here to ask him.

But on Musical.ly, apparently Bryce, I don't know if this is true, but came out as bisexual. So everyone, all the comments are like, this is already known. Like Bryce is bi. Why is everyone surprised? But I don't know how true it is. I mean, I'm going to say maybe he's slightly bi. I could care less. But like, you you know i'm a guy who grew up i just didn't go around kissing my buddies in the lips like it's just not something we did yeah it's a new world so i don't know if he's bi or this is just a new trend where you kiss your homies here's a news outlet reacting to it

and then when we get back to new york we need to contact um And then when we get back to New York, we need to contact Leslie to see what she can do to minimize the press. So this is the guy that he was kissing? Yeah. Another divorce. That guy looks bi. Is that bad to say? No, I think he is, like, openly gay.

He's one of Tana's good friends. Oh, all right. Well, yeah, so maybe. Who fucking knows i i mean who cares if it's a bit you know what's he kissing harry josie yeah now harry josie's in on it they're all kissing it's kind of crazy but harry josie makes me think it's a bit because i he's definitely straight but he's also like i'm gonna do whatever to be a club farmer yeah yeah he has a little bit of tana in him so i mean if he's looking around being like,

oh, people are talking about Bryce kissing dudes on the list, guess what? I'm going to get in that game. I'm going to start kissing. Like, Harry Josie will do it. Harry Josie, I think, would fuck if he thought he could get page views. Like, that's his game. I think he would too, 100%.

It's just for clout. Okay, so, and then this is It's just for clout. Okay. And then this has turned into the Bryce show. I know. Riley and Bryce updates. Addison commented on Riley's IG post. Fans speculate Bryce's tweet is about her doing so. Yeah, so Riley's Instagram caption was,

you are such a waste of time. And then Addison liked it and commented on it, your eyes, whoa. So people think that her Instagram caption was you are such a waste of time and then Addison liked it and commented on it your eyes whoa so people think that her Instagram caption was about Bryce got it it probably was right seems like it but then Bryce tweets I wake up to a weird insta caption I'm being tagged in my ex commenting on it Austin McBroom suggesting I fight Logan Paul I'm never drinking again so maybe he got drunk and did something towards Riley and then she posted that why obviously Bryce Hall is a waste of time if you're trying to have a serious relationship like duh obviously that's kind of a no-brainer and what do you mean Austin McBroom suggesting I fight Logan Paul Logan Paul Paul, he'd kill Bryce.

Yeah, he's like 10 times his size. And Bryce already got killed once. I don't think Bryce is trying to say he's a great fighter. We have speculation. Oh, no. Speculation about Dixie and Noah's relationship. Uh-oh. I'm sorry.

This is Dear Becksters and Beckys. That's a great couple name. Yeah, that's their couple name Dear Becksters and Beckys. That's what. That's a great couple name. Yeah. Yeah. That's their couple name. Becksters and Beckys. I don't get it. Am I that stupid right now?

Oh, okay. All right. I think I understand what's going on. Okay. So what is Beckys? Dixie? That's their like couple name. Like it's like if you're a Stan of Noah and Dixie, like I think I understand what's going on. Okay, so. What is Becky's? Dixie? That's their, like, couple name. Like, it's like if you're a stan of Noah and Dixie, like, being together.

No, I think it's just Noah stans, isn't it? No, I think. No, Becky's. Well, that's what I'm saying. Becky's. How does Becky's have to do with Dixie? So there was a YouTube video. There was a clip.

I saw it. There was a clip on. I think this might be what they're talking about. There was a clip where Noah was saying he wants be what they're talking about there was a clip um where noah was saying he wants to get married soon and have babies and then his parents were in the video saying no not with dixie like you can't do that with dixie and all the comments were like oh it seems like uh the parents hate dixie and they shouldn't be together so i think that's what the dixie slander is and they're like like, Becky's back off of Dixie.

I saw that this morning. I didn't think this was going to happen. Noah is going to like remember how old. Noah's talking about having babies? Yeah. He said once. Yeah, it's in the car. He said once he was financially stable, he wants to have children. And he's like, I'm finally financially stable.

I want kids. He's 19, I think. Dude, what are you doing? 19, you want kids? You want your financially stable? I mean, he is, but who's financially stable at 19? Listen, I like this relationship. I'm not going to throw slander at it, but what are you talking about?

And how does that video get published with the parents saying they don't like Dixie, was that not what it really was they didn't say they didn't like dixie but they were like no you and dixie aren't ready for that and all the comments oh yeah no shit they're not ready for it they're like fucking 14 years old exactly you guys think i'm ready no no i mean i i want i've always told myself i wanted a kid when i was i would i would be ready for a kid when i was financially stable. I think I've hit that point. Yeah, but you're not emotionally ready for a kid. You need to put the brakes on it.

You want to live young while you can. You're kind of a douchebag. Wow, Haley. But Noah would be the only one of those guys that's, like, ready to settle down and get married right now. None of them are. I can't believe any of them would be um all right this is for us barstool double tap barstool we're holding a talent search for all you people out there like oh how do i do bffs or how do i work for barstool or how to become famous we're looking for the next star here so we're holding talent search to find content creators to work for us um so i guess here's the instructions do we have it here you post an original tiktok on your page by monday august 9th use the hashtag barstool search in the caption

encourage people to double tap your video tag barstool sports in the comments the higher the engagement more views you'll get and we're reaching out uh for all the people um that we're looking for and after the first round judges at barstool will pick creators to move on, compete in different challenges until the double tap winner is approved. I believe you get a job. Yeah, I think it's like a full-time job here at Barstool. It's kind of like Barstool Idol. That's how I ended up here on TikTok. So it's a good contest to enter.

Yep. Maybe we'll get them on the show or at least show some of the videos that are going on. Yeah, like the best ones. we'll put them on BFF. Right. There's like a little sizzle if you guys want to watch the video attached to the... Who made this sizzle? I have probably somebody on the video team. Stop absolutely everything you're doing right now.

Your chance to work at Barstool Sports is here. So then she tells me it's either her or the barbershop. We're launching our newest TikTok talent search competition called barstool double tap all you have to do to enter is post an original tiktok and that's it hashtag barstool search in your caption and get absolutely everyone you know to double tap that video and tag Barstool Sports in the comments. That's it. The higher the engagement, the higher your chances of getting picked. I don't know what you're still doing here. You only have until Monday, August 9th. Go. Sweet. It's pretty, pretty straightforward. Yeah, I don't know what I

thought. This isn't real, but it is pretty straightforward. And we have hired, we got Bree, we got Little Sass. I guess those are only our two TikTok people, right, that we've hired? Yeah, I would say so. Little Sass is kind of Twitter, too. Yeah. Yeah. We need some more TikTokers.

Ooh, videos to react to. Jeff Wittek uses Brie's voice. Yeah. Have you seen this? I take it you have. Yeah. Film everything's going to be fine. Just film everything everything make a nice six-part docuseries out of it just tell them to milk it not milk it look i didn't make a single dime from the fucking youtube videos all right they had restricted everything demonetized everything they copyrighted i used copyrighted music that was not the intention i

want to make an inspiration it was that little part right there i that went so fast i didn't even fucking realize i know right it's like he played it while he was talking i'm gonna milk it not milk it look i didn't make a single dime from the fucking youtube videos all right they had restricted everything demonetized everything got it got it got it got it got. So he's kind of playing along now. Yeah. I think he, I don't think he really cares. There's no way anymore.

I feel like super self-conscious with that setup that he has. And I'm like, just sitting in, like, it looks like me and interrogate fucking Tehran or something. You do look like you're getting interrogated with your suit on. Big time suit. They're like white walls.

Barstool employee drives a Ferrari four, eight, eight spider. Wait, look who it is. Suit, the white walls. Barstool employee drives a Ferrari 488 Spyder. Wait. Look who it is. Oh, look who's here. Hey, what's up, guys? What happened, Josh? Looking at the clock here at 855. Yeah, yeah.

I just fucked up. There's really nothing to say. I just messed up my Wednesday calendar with my Tuesday calendar last night, and I was like, all right, so I got to get up at 9, got to go to this meeting with some company. I was like, I'll be good. Yeah, it wasn't good. It wasn't good.

Where are you? I'm in the new house we just moved into. So do they know you're not coming to the other place? Yeah, I think that's what Katie's doing right now. Got it. All right. Well, welcome. We're almost done, but welcome to the show.

You're looking pretty fly. You're looking pretty spiffy. Yeah, I feel like I look gross. I said at the beginning, it's like the lighting. I'm not loving this fucking interrogation look. But yeah yeah i have a press conference i gotta go to right after this um all right barstool welcome to the show josh richards so you want to talk about the the press conference dave since this isn't coming out till tomorrow or no yeah we can we're sponsoring which is a big deal for us we're sponsoring a bowl game the the Arizona Bowl. So it's going to be the Barstool Sports Arizona Bowl.

And we have the press conference. Yeah. So we control. And not only are we sponsoring it, we control, like, all the broadcasts. Right. So we get to pick who, like, we can be in the booth. The number one thing we already have, Big Cat is going to jump out of a plane with the American flag and then land and sing the national anthem.

That's so awesome. Is that real? Is that like for real? Like, like parachute. Yeah. Holy shit. Like the back of like a guy.

Yeah. We got a bunch of shit we're going to do. We can do whatever we want. We control like the entire game. So that is, that's, that's almost as cool. That's almost as cool as you guys uh sponsoring

the little volleyball team that i'm joining for the six-man tournament on friday did you hear about that no i have no idea what you're talking about i texted kareem i texted kareem so me and all the boys were at uh what what is this el sombrero we were at this restaurant me and like a couple of my friends that are just like young guys playing in the NHL shout out like Brendan Bresson Jack Blake um but we were all down there and I saw this flyer for the six-man like volleyball tournament so I look at Gab and I was like hey we should probably join that tournament all the boys are kind of like laughing like thinking I'm kidding and then me and Gab are like no like we're gonna join the tournament so we all signed up and we're repping like BFF uh shirts for the top so we're like team BFS or something like that i love it i didn't know yeah that's friday yeah it's friday friday

so it's gonna be a gonna be a good good amount of fun we had some guy come up to us and he was like yeah i'm playing in the six man you guys are fucking toast and they were like it's like serious yeah yeah like he plays like d1 volleyball. We were all looking at each other. We're like, all right, man. Like we're probably not going to. Signed up for fun. Yeah, we're probably right. But hey, we'll have the most heart out there. No one can beat us in heart.

There's no way. Yeah, the offense can't. That's like we had a Barstool basketball team in like not even the highest level, and I don't think they won a game. They're like 0-10 or something. All right, back to the videos here. Barstool employee drives a Ferrari 48ari 488 spider hey excuse me i love your car what do you do for a living

um i guess i respond to the right dms respond to the right dms yeah for real no i work for a sports company oh dope well what company barstool barstool sports yep oh that's awesome cool i appreciate it thanks just full cap right uh full cap but i don't know so i've been on that guy's like thing he sets it up well so like he'll be like hey you want to do this it's not just a random meeting so he must have reached out i don't think i don't think he always does that man one i've had a person just walk up to my window before and been like hey what car do you drive him i don't know if it was him specifically but it sounded like i'm like i mean i assumed it was him that kid's like pretty big on tiktok i i think but it was it was a while ago like i mean this was like probably like six months ago maybe someone

came up to me and was like hey what car do you drive and they did like all the same thing like the exact same thing i swear we're saying i'm pretty sure i said like i think he like plans them now and like yeah he probably started i did a pizza review and he 100 he's like hey let's plan it you do it here i walk up so i assume with him i can't it doesn't drive her i don't know who's i didn't talk to her after so i don't know who's ferrari that was it's fucking not hers yeah i feel like it was the guys i wonder if you just i was gonna say he probably yeah like at first he was running it like ran into a couple celebrities and did it and then eventually it's like you're just gonna reach

out to people because you're he's not running into like hannah at like a hotel like that looked like a hotel like he was just sitting in a ferrari in like a hotel lobby like and hannah those answers like she knew you could tell she knew they were coming like that wasn't she wasn't like stuttering around like she knew what she was gonna say there's a script yeah um girl gets mysterious text please look at this filter this makes your skin look good who's that who's that you got the chicken in the beginning too bro he's like fuck the good kid who's this dm coming from

well yeah i mean i didn't realize like i was minding my own business when she did that and i didn't realize because i'm not really on tiktok i had no idea that's like a trend you guys know that's like a thing people do yeah it's it's funny i've been seeing it you're probably the only person that would fall for it though because everyone else knows you have no idea what's going on on tiktok no i saw a bunch of them where like guys are getting like furious hers wasn't as but they like you can write in whatever you want she should have wrote something crazier yeah oh wait wait wait that was the filter yeah it was the filter it like you you pop up a message and she pretend like another guy texted her yes date what if it's like it was

looking smooth i was like oh this guy's just got smooth skin and then yeah like his girl also got a text i thought it was it was both things were going on she should have made it extreme like like text me when you're done with dave kissy emoji or something like then it would have been but then they may have been blood in the streets like i mean it wouldn't have looked then dave would have looked like a good guy like he pulled off he wouldn't have believed it wasn't a good guy who weirdly weirdly sylvana was almost because she showed the others and some people in the comments like he's pretty chill about it like he doesn't and she's like almost reverse got mad at me that i didn't get mad i didn't freak out you never do enough man

you can never do enough i got mad it would have been like why aren't you why aren't you okay with me and then if you're like why aren't you mad enough do you not care yeah it was kind of between and i really was like oh my skin does look good in this filter that must be it it's like i look really smooth right here and i saw that i'm like what what is that that's literally what i was like it's a nasty filter by the way like when you say if you're not on tiktok how do you ever know it's evil hey yes pretty evil that's a heart hurter yeah um they always i knew like girl gets mysterious texts i i didn't know it was that but these are always like related to us famous exes my mom knows nothing about pop culture so i told her these are my ex-boyfriends he looks nice yeah he was nice he's a little sad what is he sad

what grade was that what how old were you oh fuck he's a little older he's into like i don't know the younger girls oh man yeah not a good look that's so bad with that photo they did me so dirty with that so dirty i've never seen that picture of you that's a pretty crazy one that's like from the ugly dave era when jenna marvels they did like a story that's like in milton those are milton office days that's worse than the green shirt one i think we should start incorporating that that is not worse than the green picture one but yeah it was like they just came i hadn't done anything damn you put me up against like bieber and fucking drake with that picture that's tough man kisses girlfriend it's just all on me now know that's my favorite video ever that dude stole that from us because someone sent it to me

and i i responded to him like just for the record that's not me i saw it on twitter yeah because i retweeted the girl resembles sylvana so it like sort of works it was perfect it was good i think let's kid wants ice cream let's hope this one moves to one of you two here oh shit i haven't seen that one that's awesome wow that's getting creative people are getting really jiggy with it now they're getting jig jiggy with it. Damn. That one hurts. That one hurts. Yeah. Hey, yeah. They always, why do they, BFFs always end up, oh, I'm getting through the pictures. I'm probably going to be good this time. They blue balls me with it.

And then they just go, wow, mallet on the blue balls. Mallet on the blue balls. They just get you, attack you. Old hearted every time. Those are all the videos. We played a game right already yeah but we should play this one too just to wrap things up all right just a quick yeah we should play another game i feel like i've been late on the games today okay so answer the internet yeah ati let's do it

all right who is a music artist that everyone hypes up, but they actually suck? This is a loaded question. This is. Fuck. We're going to have so many people coming after us. Like. I think Kanye has sucked for a while. Oh, that's a great answer, actually.

Like, I like his old shit his new shit i i haven't liked at all lately he writes it in an hour and then puts it out what about you josh that's that's a hard one um jayden i think i think a boogie with the hoodie okay no i think a boogie i think i used to really love like all of his shit like every album that would drop i'd be like i'd be listening to it and then i feel like his last like couple i just been like he like the last one i was like yeah okay that's a good one what about you brie playboy cardi kind of think he's trash okay okay what's next wow you're gonna absolutely i know that's why i didn't want to say it but dave is gonna too for coming out that cult following like they literally make music for him

i know i know all right and then brie if you just want to read these instead of me screen sharing just because of josh's video it'll be better so yeah uh what would be your walking song in a baseball game your walk out song in a baseball game? Your walkout song in a baseball game? These are questions you gotta think about. I know. Walkout song. I already had a walkout song for my baseball game. What was it?

I think it was Forever by Drake. Okay. Yeah. Basic. I feel like a lot of people do that.'s a good one though fuck you too it's a good one though I mean I can't really think of anything but I love like center field but it's jake isles band I think I'm dating myself but it's is it is that the name of i don't know i just come out to silence oh just set the set the tone yeah silence no hey quiet no it's a mental game i don't know i don't know what song i just picked you just made up the fakes i don't know is it i don't know if it's a song and i picked the wrong guy it's john fogart I picked the wrong guy.

It's John Fogerty, center field John Fogerty. It wouldn't be, but it's a sick baseball song. Okay. All right. What is a conspiracy theory that you 100% believe in? 100%. Oh, I believe in the SeaWorld one. What one what is it blackfish is that a conspiracy or is that just the truth it's just like a doctor what is blackfish it's like how how awful sea world treats all the animals yeah i think that's just true but i would never watch that because

i'm an animal guy yeah i cried the whole time it's pretty bad yeah i would never watch that because i'm an animal guy yeah i cried the whole time it's pretty bad yeah i would never watch that conspiracy i mean i like i have the jfk shit there's like for sure some like conspiracy shit with that the world's probably flat too eh yeah you're flat earther flat earther no not a chance but uh i think i think like the the moon landing kind of freaks me out sometimes because i feel like they're like the wind is, like, blowing it. How is wind blowing in space? That's a good one. A lot of people believe in that one. That one freaks me out.

I haven't looked a lot into it really yet. But I feel like I just – What's, like, the advantage of tricking people that we, like, were on the moon? That was better than Russia. Right. It was just a little cold war it was a little bit more move against russia beat russia to it yeah a couple more okay

uh if you had to pick one person to be the ambassador for the human race to meet aliens who would it be so like if you would send someone up who do you think would would be good to meet the aliens first bill Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton? Everyone loves Bill Clinton. Okay. What about sending a personable, nice, funny guy up there? Seth Rogen. No, he would not be good at this. I feel like Charles Barkley? Everyone likes Barkley. He's funny. Who doesn't like Charles Barkley? I feel like you might charles barkley everyone likes barkley he's funny who doesn't like charles

barkley i feel like there's a an immense amount of people that might not like charles barkley really compared to like gandhi probably gandhi though gandhi would get like taken for a fucking ride i feel like he'd just agree to any. By the way, I'd leave with the aliens. I wouldn't send me. I'd go. I'm very team alien. I'm on the record. Like, if the aliens come, I would turn over all the human secrets in a second as long as they're, like, you're my guy.

You'd be the human alien? Yeah. Yep. Wow. Yeah. You just proved yourself. You're not for the humans. Well, I wouldn't, yeah.

I wouldn't send me if I was a human because I will turn on you quick. I'm sending Adam Sandler 100%. Okay. Adam Sandler, right? Everyone loves him. I don't know. I think like maybe,

maybe Martha Stewart's got it personally. Oh yeah. She's a cutie, but she's like hard if she has to be. Yeah. Right. That's what I'm saying. Like jail time.

Yeah. She's hard. All right. What is an album that has zero, if she has to be. That's what I'm saying. She's hard. What is an album that has zero skips? Lady Gaga, Poker Face, Bam, done. Is that the name of the album?

Poker Face. You're a Gaga stan. We've done this on Barstool Radio, the greatest albums of all time. The album is called The Fame, Dave, not Poker Face. Whatever. All right, crank. Death Race to Love, This World.

I could listen to that entire album. Oh, yeah, that's a good one. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy by Kanye. No one said that. Popular answer. I like Uzi's old album. I don't even know the name of it, though. Listen, i'm just reading through here fame monster lay gaga bad romance aljandro monster dance in the dark telephone

um just dance paparazzi poker face are you kidding me i mean those are all monster hits loaded it's a loaded one who else has one of those crazy albums isn't it katie perry that has like a ridiculous album or something she has probably yeah there's a couple out there that we've done we we played that game it's actually a good game for this show you just play every well we can't play the songs but it would be like you say skip or pass banger or not but yeah oh acid rap acid rap every song's a banger on that too. We could do that one day. It's just the episode wouldn't be monetized, but we can maybe figure it out. All right, last one.

All right, last one. It will be. Name one restaurant you would never eat at even if you were starving. I'm going to get roasted for this, but I will not go to Taco Bell. Really? Why?

I can't have it because I know I'll get sick. Taco Bell. Really? Why? I can't have it because I know I'll get sick. No cheesy. No, you won't. I know. I don't do Taco Bell. I like pizza. What?

Blaze pizza. That's what I thought you were going to say. No, I don't do Taco Bell. I just am like, ugh, Taco Bell. I don't know what to do. I just, I'm out. I've never had it. Ever? Never had.

Never. You're missing out, honestly. And I like tacos. How do you know you're not going to like it? How do you know you're going to like it? I just, I'm out. I've never had it. Ever? You're missing out, honestly. And I like tacos. How do you know you're not going to like it? I just know. I just know. You're missing out. Wasn't it like a taco, like 59 cents or something?

Maybe back in the 80s. Yeah, so that's like freaked me out. It's like, what do you mean it's 59 cents? What is this fucking rat meat? I'm like, maybe it is. Don't ruin taco bell for me i'm just saying it's right me bro i'm mucking it it's so good it's so good listen i i know i know i it's like one of the cows at the same time as eating tacos sounds like i just i just don't do taco bell i just don't do it wow what about you josh taking care care of New York's rat epidemic.

Wow. Stop. I'm going to throw up. I'm actually going to throw up. And I'm sure it's not. It's just one of those things, for whatever reason, as I – it's like I just don't do it. I've done it all fast food. I just don't do Taco Bell.

The country rallies around Taco Bell whenever there's like World Series. It's like they steal a bag. You get a free taco. In the NBA Finals, it was like if you came back the suns came back one one game and then everyone got free tacos so i i'm in the minority i the people's taco bro yeah i also loved kentucky fried chicken there were so many horror stories that start freaking myself out on kentucky fried chicken and i don't even call it friday anymore they just call it kentucky chicken right or just they do i thought they took out the fried. Damn. That's fucked up.

Yeah, KFC kind of freaks me out a little bit too. I won't do that. I would say probably Arby's is mine. Oh yeah, that's gross. Checkers. Have you guys heard of Checkers? Yeah, I've heard of it. I used to see it all the time in Ohio and it just grossed me out. White Castle kind of grosses me out.

Yeah. I'm not a big fan of that at all either you eat mcdonald's dave yeah all right if you said no to that that would have been i'll i'll eat mcdonald's uh i'll eat all that i mean mcdonald's uh wendy's i think is the best of that version but i'll eat all of those and i don't consider like in and out when these yeah yeah wendy's is wendy's chicken nuggets wow but you don't you don't count you don't count like you don't count shake shack and that you don't different that's an elevated category yeah yeah 100 that's not fast food you guys have do you guys have a and w out here like not just the root beer like the actual burger chain no no no wow do you have canes josh canes yeah uh but that's totally that's a total different category that's a different category but that's my favorite yeah that's no i'll drive 45 minutes outside of la for

canes sometimes i fly to ohio for culver's mindset what over so it's like culver's is like a Midwest chain. I never had that. It's so good, Kareem. It's pretty, like the ice cream there, the custard or whatever it is, fire. The self has what? The steak? Steak and shake.

Oh, steak and shake? Yeah, steak and shake. Do you like burger? No, I didn't love it. Oh, I like steak and shake. I don't think I've been. Been to Five Guys. Five Guys is very good.

So good. I love Five Guys. Never disappoints. Five Guys, great. And now, great. All those are good. Shake Shack, great. All those.

Yeah. All right. There it is. That's BFF. We got 10 minutes of Josh. Yep. And then the interview is good with Thomas. Yeah.

All right. BFFs. Thomas Petro. And I got to be honest. I'm looking through here, and we'll get all the background. And I'm looking through the original Hype House roster, and I'm just going through the sheets, like catching up on what I got to know,

because I'm new, relatively speaking, to like TikTok and, you know, this whole world. The original Hype House, which you founded, relatively speaking to like tick tock and you know this whole world the original hype house which you founded this roster thomas petro little huddy charlie de mayo dixie de mayo addison ray daisy keach nick austin alex warren etc outside of nick austin and alex warren who kind of don't know who they are the other people are like first ballot hall of fame as big as you get across the board it's an amazing list so i just had to start there and you put this house together you're a team 10 guy got out of team 10 and started the hype house can you just explain the background of like what made you come up with the

idea and where did you find these people yeah um so i wasn't really a part of team 10 a lot of people think that but i i was friends with jake at the time during the height of team 10. And so when I was friends with him and over there, I kind of saw the way the business ran. And it was a very simple concept of like, bring in talent. He took X percentage to help blow them up, give them opportunity to career, et cetera. The only thing that I saw wrong with that is that in LA and in Hollywood and these kids, when you take a percentage of someone, it doesn't matter what you do for them. Eventually they'll hate you. And I've noticed that with managers and agents,

no matter what, they will end up, you'll end up being the bad guy later down the road when they're ready to be like, I don't deserve this. I deserve better than you. I don't want to share my money with anyone or anything like that. So I was like, what if I take a different approach and I bring a bunch of people together?

There's no percentages. There's no like agreements. You can do do whatever you want leave whenever you feel like it let's just bring a group of creators together that are doing well or blowing up and then let's just take it from there and i found charlie when she had like 2 000 followers on instagram addison had like 8 000 followers on instagram and i just randomly reached out to them and then chase was also friends with charlie and so it just kind of worked out. Okay. So that's such an interesting idea to me because even Barstool, what we do, we pay people in contracts, they become popular hopefully. And then it's like, you know, if you saw, I don't know if you

paid attention, we had a very famous incident with Call Her Daddy, which was like an unknown podcast. We signed a three-year deal they tried to get out of it before alex just signed a 60 million dollar deal so kind of like that in a weird way it's an athlete model or a band model like a band is unsigned no one knows who they are they sign a contract they blow up it's like wait a minute i could i don't need these guys anymore so what was the advantage of you creating this house? Like if you're not getting a percentage of these people, what are you getting? Well, what I was getting was an opportunity to be successful in this industry on my own, which was like kind of a unique position because not being a manager,

but while helping guide and manage these kids to try to help them get a better opportunity in their careers, I was offering that to them. And in exchange, they were building a brand that I was building. And on top of that, they were helping me build my career. So it was like a unique position because not many people were 21 fitting in with these kids, like creating content alongside with them. Most people who think of like that agent model, think of it from a purely like percentage standpoint. I bring you brand deals. I make money, but I was like, I can make a lot more money being in this industry myself. And I know how to create content and I know how to network and I know how to be like a good person to these kids. So I came in and kind of helped mentor them.

But I was like, I don't need anything from you. I was like, let's just try to build this thing up. And it's worked out well so far. So it was more like you bring them in and then you just build your clout together off each other. That's the transactional thing. Kind of, yeah. I mean, it's a content house. I know it's a source of controversy that we can get into, but you theoretically own Hype House.

So, you know, if someone leaves and comes in, you still can sell brand deals, Hype House. If someone wants to leave, you replace them. It's like almost a Saturday Night Live. So you keep saying how old are you i'm 22 now okay so what was the average because you're calling them like kids so how much older and not really the kids like obviously like we we have kids here kids um but alex and cover are 20 and 21 they're uh friends that they brought up papper uh patrick calvin they're all like 22 21 they're same age as me it's just i've kind of are 20 and 21. They're friends that they brought up, Papper, Patrick, Calvin. They're all like 22, 21. They're the same age as me.

It's just, I've kind of like taken on like a father figure type role for a lot of the people in the house, just because they're lost. A lot of them are very lost, especially when they come out to LA. And I try to just be a good friend and try to help them with their relationships

with everything. I've spent endless amounts of hours with everyone that was a part of hype house or is a part of hype house, just helping them through their personal life and personal problems with their, whether it's with their families or their friends or people trying to take advantage of them, just trying to like help talk them through that.

And like, so that's why I always say kids is just cause I've tried to like be a big brother figure for most of these people. So you've been out here the longest, no? Like out of everyone in the house, you would have been out in LA the longest, right? Yeah. Yeah. I've lived here for four years.

Right. So that's, that's where the, the leadership comes in. It's like, you got the experience. So Josh, I'm curious your take on this because you were somebody in the sway house. So if you joined us, you could have easily, I guess, theoretically been like hype house. So what would your take be on the pitch that Thomas just gave? Like, here's what we're going to give you. And Sway is basically set up the same way, right?

It's like no one's getting you can come and go as you please. Essentially, except if you signed with Talent X, then you're signed with the talent management. But we also had Sway as well. But we had kids that came into Sway and would, like, do stuff with Sway. but we also had sway as well but we had kids that came into sway and would like do stuff with sway and then they wouldn't have signed to talent x or we let them off the talent x contract when they they wanted to leave so it was kind of a little bit different um but we had i think the difference between thomas's and sway was more thomas was you guys you were kind of running it all no like you were doing the brand deal side you were doing no managers no agent no yeah yeah so like where it was different for us is we had a whole like staff at talent x

that was either having managers assigned to certain talent or uh we had brand deal guys that were doing stuff as well so where thomas was kind of taking that all on his own we had other people doing that at sway which is just like a different different approach i'm not saying one's better or one's worse it's it's definitely weird because we but the whole thing with me is that i knew that once these kids grew that they were going to want their own managers agents etc like they're going to want their own team so i was like i don't have the resources to fulfill a whole team for all these people nor do i want to because i don't want to deal with the backlash that comes with that later when a brand deal falls through and something doesn't work out and then they hate you. I was like, I don't want to deal with this. I like these people as friends.

I was like, go get your own managers, get your own agents, make your own money your way. It has nothing to do with me. We help build this collective that will help all of us grow and kind of be like a modern day, like Nickelodeon and help push out talent. The natural question is, it seems like based on what you're saying, you tried to create a, you know, a frictionless environment where people would come and go. That hasn't been the case. You've had and we actually were talking about a little bit yesterday. And I mentioned Daisy Keach was like one of the first people that I saw. And I'm like, who is this TikToker?

She was blowing up. I didn't realize the Hype House. I didn't realize the beef. So where if you're setting this up the way you just described, why is why is there this beef that essentially is she saying she created Hype House with you and wanted equity in that brand? And you were saying no? Kind of. This conversation is sticky because we both have signed something saying we're not allowed to speak about each other. So we can't really talk.

And it was because her team was attempting to sue me, which failed horribly. And then they withdrawed, and now we can can't talk so you guys signed ndas so it can if you blink twice is it just to say ownership of hype house like that and what else could it be it was an intellectual property suit over yeah over it well you don't have to be yeah but there was backdated evidence of me and alex discussing this years before i met daisy so that was kind of the problem there so is there you clearly don't have a good relationship with her we'd say actually we fixed it i talked to her about a week ago um it took a long time because during that whole like period of the first lawsuit,

I've never been sued before or like been through that. And I'm sure that you have been through that or so at some point. But yeah, I was I was horrible. I was like, throwing up every day from anxiety every morning. I felt like shit like I was like, never done this before, just kind of like thrown into a business that I was just like a trying to have fun and bring people together that was the whole concept of it and then quickly i realized like you have to have a business in place you have to have equity in these things that like i didn't think about any of that stuff when i started this um so when that happened it was like really bad but we worked through it and like i talked to her a week ago we kind of put everything in the past which is good still can't talk about it though you should list those ndas it'd be better better

fucking views for this podcast i'm sorry no that's just the drama we wanted yeah they're that situation i i sadly can't speak on anything so are you saying you were you're basically the one person that started hype house was there anyone helping you or you're like the founder? Chase helped me. Chase helped me a lot with finding talent, especially, but on the business end, like when, when it came time, when I was like, Hey, I need your guys' help. If you're going to be like equity partners in this business, like I was like, you guys got to help me do this, this, and this. And they were all like were all like well we want equity but we want to go leave and not do anything and i was like well this is where it's not fair it's like that's that's a hard i have to get that's a hard yeah i was like yeah i was like that's just not fair i was like if you want a piece of this then you got

to do your share you got to hop on all the meetings you got to do all the zooms you got to do all this and they're like well i don't want to do any of that. And I'm like, well, then this isn't fair then. And Josh, I've heard like, I don't want to say you said the same exact stuff, but whispers of deals come through and guys are like, well, you know, they're happy when the money comes through, but they may not want to sit on the calls and all the things that lead up to the deals. Oh, yeah. No, I mean, Thomas knows this.

I think the problem with social media influencers, when it comes to the actual entrepreneurial side of like what you can do with social media is these kids are so used to instant gratification, right? Like they blew up so quickly. They blew up overnight. They posted a video. It got millions of likes. So now they're used to every time they post instantly, they see the likes instantly. They see the comments. It's all over for you page. They get a brand deal. They get the money right away, right? They do a post. They're getting paid for it. So then when it comes to something like Thomas is talking about where you're getting equity of a company, that company might not exit or you might not be able to sell whatever for five years, seven years, ten years, right? But that could be a lot better of a fucking deal taking the equity than the cash right now. And then that company grows and you make a shit ton of money when it like goes ipos or something like that so kids just don't they're not used to the long the longevity or like the long-term play they're used to that right now right now right now what where what is the state of hype house right now or how is it general like and again since i've been doing this i feel like sway and that was my introduction to it

has kind of gone down. People are going – and when I say go down, like people are doing their own things. There's not as much of the house. Like what's – and by the – even before I get it, my brain jumps around. Where did the name Hype House – I have my idea where Hype House, the name, came from, but it's your house. Where did the name come from? Actually, Alex thought of the name, Alex Warren. We were sitting around trying to brainstorm, but it was literally just because the hype was going to – your house where did the name come from actually alex thought of the name alex warren we were we

were sitting around trying to brainstorm but it was literally just because the hype charlie had the hype right we're transferring like there it was literally people on tiktok were blowing up and were your whole for you page it would be like oh josh one day then bryce the next day then charlie then it was like the weirdest thing on the planet and And so Alex was like, why not just the hype house? And we were like, that makes sense. That was kind of like Charlie's coin term too, right? Like she had the hype. Yeah, that's what I thought it was. I thought Charlie had the hype and that's where it like came from.

It jumped around a lot though. I remember like, remember Alex French had it for like a week, Josh? Yeah, it was like, it kept jumping around. Like I remember there was a time where troy zar bro was my whole for you page that's all i saw no yeah it was a really weird thing i mean it went from charlie i thought it went to dixie for a little bit i thought there was something with charlie to dixie to the hype house yeah right yeah yeah but didn't that french girl had it for like two days or three days, blew up, hit like 3 million followers in three days,

and then just like was never to be seen again. Is that still a thing that goes on now? Like if you guys were like, who has the hype? Like as we're doing this right now, like a top three, like who jumps? Vinny. Vinny has the hype, I guess. It was Sienna. After the fight, he was like, my entire For You page was edits of him,

and I barely saw Vinny before, and I live with him. So it's like, it just, there's something that happens when so many people are looking up someone or something. It's like getting a lot of engagement reacting to their face on TikTok, where TikTok's like, this is doing well, let's boost this. So they just boosted everyone. No, 100%. So, and I jump, so where would you say, like, right now,

the hype for the hype houses, if the hype house at the hype of the hype house with that roster that I just listed, like that was, you know, the golden age of the hype house. Where's it now? Right, that's a 10. That's a peak.

Where's it at? Yeah, we're at slow point number three. So we had insane blow up, quarantine hit. Everyone had to go home. So huge dropdown down engagement fell completely moved to a second house boosted it to the highest we ever had it like hype house was averaging like a million likes on instagram which was insane for a collective group um then it slowed down again we moved again it got a little jump now slowed down again netflix little jump it's just like it's just like this and part of that is bringing in new talent and working with new people

and like just trying to keep it as like a revolving door where so the whole point was i knew that at some point people were going to leave because i was like we're not locking people in they're going to eventually get to the point where they're like i don't need to be a part of a collective group anymore my brand's big enough to where I can be on my own. And it's like that first time with Charlie and Dixie, then it happened with Addison, but it wasn't, everyone kind of looked at it as like, oh my God, they're leaving. And I was like, no, they're leaving, but they're moving on to better things.

Like that's the whole point of this is to help them get to a point where they can be like, look at how far they've gone. Like, I feel like we've put out a pretty crazy group of people from like Avani, Charlie, Dixie, Addison, whether they were a part of it and then moved on, it's like, look how far they've gone. And I'm just proud of them. And that's your selling point, right?

To try to get new talent. Do these people stay? It's almost like I always look, if you watch a college football game, you see NFL guys come stand on the sidelines and like, charlie and dixie and addison are they still will they still pop in to do like hype house shit because that goes a long way obviously um or are they just like i'm over this dude you're big timing you

i don't know honestly i mean i'm friends with most of the people that have gone the only people i'm not friends with are the people that it ended badly or like where i told them like you have to leave and stuff like that um but for the most part like we're all friends obviously they're not gonna like promote the merch and stuff when they're not like a part of it anymore whatever because the people who live in the house help do the branded content which pays for their rent to live in the house so it's like if you don't live here then no one has to like larry's still a part of hype house but he doesn't have to do any social posts for it because he doesn't live here so it's just like people do it for exchange for rent and then every

and then everything else just goes towards legal expenses like do you guys have like huh i was gonna say like do you see a end to the hype house or is it just you just keep door rotating with new talent, new talent until you get to the point where it's like you don't even do social media anymore. You're just managing this like social media conglomerate. Is that like the end goal or what's the what's the plan with Hype? Honestly, I it depends on how the show goes, because the chance of like having the show on Netflix was insane. And like, I worked on that for a year and if the show performs, like I'm hoping that it will, then obviously there's a whole like potential franchise with hype house on Netflix and reality show and building out a brand there. If it doesn't do well, then possibly content, obviously it's not

going to last forever. I don't think it depends on how long TikTok's around and how long social media in general is popping like it is right now. But as long as there's a revolving door of people coming in, then it will stay around. But until then. Right. Is there any, I don't want to say resentment, because I think what you're doing is putting yourself, myself in your shoes is pretty stressful. Like if you lose a star you got to replace them and that's not always the easiest thing to do and being in the talent business in general is not an easy thing to do because they by nature of it you're building these people up

to just turn around leave so and then you gotta start the process over is there any level where you look at yourselves like man if i just concentrate on myself because you've built or helped propel these gigantic stars and they go off and they're doing all this stuff and you're still grinding, find the new talent, the Netflix show, like you said. But how do you look at that world? It's tough because like there's part of me that does get a little upset about it sometimes. And I'm like, what am I like? Why am I spending so much time on these other people? But then I feel like it's helping build the brand, which like you said, I own,

which can help me build something that I could potentially one day. It's like the long-term play, like Josh was talking about. It's like, what if one day someone wants to buy Hype House, the name? Because it's been built for so long and it's been doing so well.

It's like, that'd be a nice payday for me one day. But at the same time, like I'm using everything that I have right now to make money to invest myself so that I'm setting myself for a long term. Like realistically, I'm not going to be in this forever. I don't like all I've ever wanted because I grew up super broke and like had a bunch of family problems. So my only goal in life was to be able to afford to have kids to where they're not like struggling. And I feel like I've already done that at 22. So it's just now it's just how far. You were thinking about having kids already? No, no.

Yeah, what are you doing, Thomas? I grew up where. What are you doing, man? You trying to have kids right now? Not yet, not yet. It's easy. I'd like to be able to have my kids have a good life. That's my goal when I have them.

He's going to have kids and put them in the Hype House right now. Perfect. Use it for content. Ironically, a lot of the decisions are things that you go through in your mind. I don't know how well you know Barstool, but very kind of similar things with building myself versus bringing in other people building it. And we got to the point where the Barstool Sports name means something

and we're able to sell it. So it is it is an interesting balancing act um you got the netflix show you know by the way that i i you may not know so my introduction i became a little huddy hater right off the bat because josh and little huddy had like beef and then i looked at the way he dressed and I don't get it I do not get the way the dude dresses but I want him on the show I've come to respect as I've gotten more of it he what I said it's like his his uh we talked about it's the e-boy style yeah he has his own little niche he he's like the only one that can do it we roasted the fuck out of chase we lived with them for

like we I love chase but yeah it's a weird style i mean everyone kind of has i know a lot of people with a weird ass style he rocks it though can you get him on our show for us he's like a golden he's like the the mobile why doesn't he just come on the show i feel like he would never do it why i don't know i don't think i don't know chase just like also isn't very good at on the spot conversation like i think bryce said it best he was like i've never seen someone with 12 million instagram followers like not talk this much right like never do them or call and be like yo i'm on bff so will you like they want you to call them you should face you should face them right now i don't think you

would ever get on this is a hard no I feel like it's just a hard pass. So what happened? Here's one of your big cons. And by the way, so this new Netflix, when is that hit? I don't know. They won't tell me the release date, but I would hope. It's supposed to be like early, end of summer, early spring. And now like we had had nikita dragon on

the other day she's in it but she's not actually a hype house person correct yeah what's the hype house roster right now like who's actually in the hype house right now what we started line up so when we moved to the second house i had the idea of unfollowing everyone because it was too much of like uh oh my god where's charlie oh my god where's chase oh my god where's my like it was too much that was all what the comments were is like there's 20 people followed all 20 people need to be in every post and we were like right i was like i'm so over this like direct list of people like the whole point of this brand is so that people move on and so like there's to be people that come in and out. So, but right now who lives here is me, my girlfriend, Mia, Alex, Cover, Vinny. Then downstairs, we have

Patrick, Calvin, Papper, who are like, Alex's like diehard friends from when they, when he was in Carlsbad and like, they started blogging together and that's how they made it. And like, they are, what I've noticed is a lot of the people with clout are like very, very bad on camera, which is weird. But me and Alex are very YouTube based. And a lot of like people who are very popping on TikTok can't speak like when on like on the spot, like they don't have good comedic timing.

They don't have the charisma. They don't have the charisma to be in front of a camera. They're used to 15 second sounds. They've got that really good 15 second, like, ooh, I can do a quick dance or I can do the fuckboy look or whatever. But then when a camera is put on them, they kind of freeze, which is weird. So it's really nice having people like Calvin, Patrick, Connor. Yesterday, we took little Barbie carts and ran them down our acre and drove them down. But anyone with numbers would be like, no, I'm scared of that.

So it's nice having different types of people in the house. This is a controversy that happened. What went on with the Hype House chains? Just to give you a list. I get a list. I get a list of everything that has ever gone in the history of Hype House. So you guys said you were giving away free chains that are $20 for shipping. I guess people thought they were getting scammed. What happened there?

I mean, I just, it was literally, I was selling chains on my, this was on my YouTube channel. This wasn't even on Hype House. I literally just dropped Hype Chains. And I didn't think they were going to do as well as they did. But the person I was selling them with was like, I've done this in the past if you switch it from 20 with free shipping to free with 20 shipping more people will buy it and i was like i was like there's no way that there's more people will buy it just because

it's free and the shipping is the price it worked it did very well i mean i was like you're still getting a 20 chain like it's not like so what do you do did you ever say that i like you were you just openly like yeah we were trying to like get people to buy it by saying it's a fucking money i said yeah i'm an entrepreneur i was selling something all right easy is that would you do it would you do it again that way probably not just because the backlash no just because i wouldn't want my fans to feel like i'm trying to like trick them into buying that that was where i felt bad i was like i was thinking about it purely from like sales perspective i wasn't thinking of it like i don't want my fans to feel like they're getting ripped off i'd rather just put 20 and like be like just buy it or don't

got it um buy it or die no i mean it obviously makes sense and shipping like that's almost there's always the shipping the like live it's a it's a it's kind of a it's a smart move low-key a lot of people do it 20x the amount of people to swipe up to go check it that's the thing like it probably brings so many more people to the page just because they see it's free and then they're like yeah oh it's $20 they're like i have a company and i was thinking about doing because like i do stickers and i was gonna do them for free with like two three dollar shipping just because they're like free stickers included in a purchase but if you buy them on their own it's a couple dollars to ship them but i'm like i don't feel like that's scammy i just feel like that's like there's marketing

yeah yeah that one works if you're looking at purely entrepreneurial, everything you look at that way, it's like, is the backlash worth, you know, is the juice worth the squeeze? All right. So what are your thoughts? And I know you had beef with Bryce. I don't know if that's squashed at this point. It is squashed. So you're just a beef squasher. You come on this show and everybody you have an issue with, you're going to say that beef is squashed.

It's squashed. Daisy, Bryce. I mean, with Bryce, we had a big beef. We had beef like multiple times. Oh, yeah. It was like eight months long. Eight months long. But I also think it's because we're kind of similar in some ways,

which created us to like want to do better. He was kind of at one point leading Sway, and I was at one point like leading Hype're competing brands like it kind of made sense but with the problem with bryce like crossed the line and then in my head i was like this isn't like a beef thing bryce looks at things very online like let's throw a boxing match let's do that he's good at selling he's good at building hype for things i'm like i wanted to go to his house and kill him because he was disrespecting me and my group of friends so it was like we came from two very different mindsets i was like i don't care about clout like i don't like when people treat my friends like shit or treat me like shit so then that's where we butted heads on that and then after after a while, I remember we just met up and I was just like, I don't like that you're doing this.

And he was like, this is what bothered me. And we were like, well, let's just be men, shake on it and move on. And then we did. And I was like, perfect. How long ago was that? That was at the last house. That was over six months ago. Okay.

What was the thing that he crossed the line? I forget. It was just like every time i talked to him it was just because he's good he likes like building he likes stirring the pot to make things entertaining but like every night he'd be over at our house and then would be at saddle the next night being like fuck hype house fuck thomas he's a scumbag and i was like you were literally at my house last night like we were hanging out so i was just like that was the part like i hated the two-faced thing and so i just like it started to bother me so much and then and then he said like i took then he said i took a

percentage from everyone in hype house and i was like this is like very obvious a no like ask any person who's ever been a part of it and then that pissed me off because that like made me look like shit to the internet because people were like wow this kid really is coming in and i was like the whole reason i started this was to not do that and so i made like that's what frustrated me so much josh where were you what was your head when all this was going on so i was there at the beginning because like initially it wasn't thomas and bryce beef it was me and chase beef and then that like turned into hype house versus sway beef very quickly And then from that, like what Thomas was talking about, when Bryce started kind of like leading Sway and being the front runner was when I left.

So I had left after this point and me and Jaden left and moved into an apartment. And then Bryce started kind of taking control of Sway. And that's when like Bryce and it became like Bryce versus Thomas really. Like that's when they started going at it. So I was a little bit – I was removed from that part a little bit. But when it was Hypos versus Sway, it was – I think like the matchup was like me and Chase and Thomas and Bryce. And it was kind of like you had those two head-to-heads. But I think me and Thomas both kind of very similar like in how it was like we

took that shit personal more than we took it like social media numbers so like when i walked over there one time i was like like i i think thomas was there but me and jayden walked over and we were like yo we consider you guys our friends so like there's this this and this that they were doing and we were like we don't fucking respect that we would never do that to you guys in fact we haven't and told you when that situation was going to happen so we deserve the same respect because next time we're not going to fucking talk to you when we come over so it was kind of like it was kind of like we were pissed off right keep in mind so we went and did that none of this involved me like i like no no that wasn't thomas he was just there like being kind of like all right i'm gonna watch make sure my friends are good blah blah blah we had that talk and then after that that's when there was

like the huge shit with the hype house versus way the paparazzi outside hype house that's when like people were going into the house hopping the fence gate that shit was keep in mind too that day when all that shit hit the fan when josh brought up what he did in that conversation none of us knew about it like why he hated chase so much none of us in the house knew about it which is why we were so confused and then we were like oh my god we're like this makes so much more sense so josh i do you still hate chaser now it's like the enemy of my enemy is my friend type situation? I don't know if it's enemy of my enemy is my friend. I think it's just like I've just like moved on from it so much and like forgotten about it.

And it's like it's also just like I think it's I don't give a fuck. And like there were things I did that were shitty and there were things that other people did that were shit. So it's just like, at the end of the day, I'm kind of just like, bro, if that was the worst thing that would have happened to me in my life,

I would have been happy. So I don't really like, I don't really think about it like that. Like I'd have chase on here and be, I'd be like totally perfect. Like I wouldn't be like, fuck you chase. I'd be like sitting and joking with him.

Like we're sitting and talking with Thomas. Like I wouldn't, I wouldn't care. I feel like josh and i are similar with this is like the beef when you take it to heart and you're actually upset about it you don't want to go post about it and go make stories about it and go make youtube videos about it like you want to end it because it actually like bothers us so it's like that's how it is for me like when i'm actually upset with someone i need to just get it off my chest so i can move on like i hate hating people and i hate people hating me like i like just like living my life like comfortable what would be like the it if you had to guess from the people you've had in the house in the hype house what if there was a complaint about you and they're like this fucking guy because

you seem super nice what what would their complaint be what would be the thing that they're like nope don't believe like what he's saying right here a little self-deprecation yeah people would say i'm an asshole and that's because i am the only person that like when you run the business is going to be that asshole like Like someone needs to be the asshole. You know what I mean? Someone kind of needs to be a little bit. What it is is like when, when I was living, especially with all the people that I used to live with,

like in their heads, they were like, Hey, let's have a hundred people over a day. Let's throw parties. Let's do this. Let's do this. But not thinking about,

Hey, if we ruin this house, we're going to get sued six months later. Or, Hey, if we do this, there's about hey if we ruin this house we're gonna get sued six months later or hey if we do this there's repercussions to that or hey if the police get called too many times or then we lose brand deals then we lose this then we look like they don't see the domino effect so they just see fun and that's when i would come in and be like no and like if you want to do that then get the fuck out of my. And that's where there's definitely been people who do not like that. But I've noticed that it never works out later down the road.

It's like, I'm trying to avoid the lawsuits. I'm trying to avoid the problems. I'm trying to avoid the brand deals getting dropped. Like I try to avoid all that stuff at all costs because that just stresses me out more. You said earlier you had to kick some people out of the house. Who did you have to kick out or tell them to leave? Um, I had to tell the Lopez brothers to leave. Okay.

That was one of them. There was a girl, Darianca. I had to tell her to leave. And then Daisy. But Daisy was a whole houseboat. Honestly, all four were a whole houseboat. And everyone voted no, whoever was in it at the time. But, yeah, I had to remove the lopez

brothers right when the controversy stuff came out and i was like this smart move associated with the brand that i've worked this hard building right because your guy's brand is clean too like hypos isn't a yeah and like whenever we heard whenever we heard about that we were like i was like this i gotta take care of this right away and i took care of that right away and the derianka thing that was because i think like there was a bunch of drama going out about her like talking shit about charlie and charlie was kind of like a part of it still like overall time she felt uncomfortable and i was just like yeah i was like charlie says jump you jump that yeah that's the rule of fucking tiktok charlie could yell jump right now i'd jump

i'd been friends with charlie for so long i was like i don't want her feeling uncomfortable at a house that like and she's so young and little yeah and i just wanted her to be happy there so that was that one and then daisy obviously that one was a big situation in the beginning and that the kick out i know you can't talk about but that was all around the that, the kickout, I know you can't talk about, but that was all around the, that's the same dispute, the IP, right? Yeah. Yeah. That was, that was the main issue there. And then the, yeah, it was just kind of like, she was, I said that all this in my YouTube

video. So that, that part, like this part I can talk about, it was just like, she was kind of off on vacation, like Bali one week and then Cancun the next week. And then kind of being like so what where's my part and i'm like i haven't seen you in a month like i've been doing press interviews i've been doing all the brand deals i've been scouting talent i've been doing all the posts and you're like where's my percentage but you're not here it's the same issue that i ran into with like multiple people when they were like oh well i thought because i posted three times like i own a hype house and i was like no like yeah doesn't work that's the hard part about mixing like friends and business

right is you get those classes where people are going to start to try to take advantage of you or say oh but i was only gone for like one week bro what do you mean man like it just kind of starts that also battle if you become a huge star like Daisy clearly became, you actually theoretically can look at it from your side. It's like, well, yeah, I'm away, but my one post carries more weight than somebody who did 100 posts and working their ass off. But guess what? My one matters more because I'm so big.

So it's like a bunch of different ways to look at it. And on top of that, for example, Vinny was huge before he moved in here. So was Avani was pretty fucking big. Avani was big before she got here. Most of them were like, already had their huge careers on their own. But for example, Vinny's the most recent.

Hype House is probably on its slowest point it's ever been at. I'd say all the houses like in general at the slowest point they've been at since they started vinny moved in then i like helped him get this fight because they reached out to me for me to fight and then i was like i'm not interested in fighting deadgy i don't know the kid i did like like i said i turned down bryce because it was personal like i didn't want to be like a youtube boxer i wanted to if i were ever to a fight i wanted to be a real fight in the future whatever blah blah then i was like how much money by the way how much money yeah what's the money what's the money level i mean if realistically if i had

a couple million dollars up front to fight someone i would fight someone just for entertainment purposes okay continue they offered a good bag but i was just like it just doesn't fit my brand it's not who i am i don't want to fight someone for no reason but then we talked about vinny and then i got vinny in vinny gained two million followers on instagram after the fight so it's like did hype house help him not necessarily but kind of like without that he might not have gotten that and then there was like a bit a lot of talk about his name when he moved in and then the netflix show like it's brought opportunity to him even though he's already big soflix show like it's brought opportunity to him even though he's already big so it's like that's the cool part about it is like no matter who you are

it kind of helps you and then if you're ready to move on you just move on okay uh it makes sense brianna we got a game right yeah the game is we create games for our guests oh yeah would you want them in the hype house so you got to tell us if you you want them in the Hype House? So you got to tell us if you would let them in or if you would let them go. Oh, God. Bella Porch. Yeah.

Easily, right? Why wouldn't he? Even I know, this is the one I did the duet with. Isn't she gigantic? Why wouldn't you want her in the house?

Yeah, you couldn't say no to her. Huge. Okay. Jake Paul. is the one i did the duet with isn't she gigantic why wouldn't you want her in the house yeah you couldn't say no to her huge okay jake paul yeah i love jake so what what is that rumor on the sheet we we glossed over that you got fired from team 10 why do people say that so i was friends with jake for like i met him randomly at sammy's camera and I had been vlogging. I've logged for four years, daily blog for four years. And most people don't know that about me, but I met him two years into it and he was on day like a hundred. And so we talked about it at Sammy's camera. And then we followed each other on Twitter at the time. And then he DM me. And then I was like, Hey, like, I'd love to come by sometime and hang out. And then months pass. And he was like, Hey, you want to come over? And funny enough,

he used me as an example. I've always referenced this blog I have, but he like talked to the talent in his house and was like, how is this kid who gets 200, 300 views on a video posting more than you guys are when you have the opportunity at your fingertips like you have millions and millions of views hundreds of thousands of dollars at your fingertips you're not using it and like that there's insane similarities between some of the stuff you say and some of the stuff barstool like similar shit right yeah yeah yeah so it's like it's funny how there's so many people who are given this at their at like literally handed to them and they don't use it like look i love nick austin he's literally like i love the kid he's like a little brother to me like i've tried to i've known him for a while he's got so much opportunity his fingertips like

dating one of the biggest superstars in the world being a part of one of the biggest internet collectives averaging six seven hundred thousand likes on instagram photos and then quitting it's like it's weird it's a it's weird how people do what did he quit for is he just gonna go to school or like what's no no he just doesn't do anything i'm like just gave up that's not like that's that's actually not he just doesn't love this and i'm like i don't i don't get it but i'm not gonna force anyone to do anything but i'm like it's just no yeah you have it here but you don't do it i understand how people can get sick of like the social media world especially these kids that get thrown into it so

quickly because it is like you blow up overnight you're so like submerged into it and then people get either like mental health gets fucked up or whatever ends up happening but you gotta have a fucking back you can't just do nothing yeah who's Nick Austin? Who's his girlfriend? Madison Beer. Madison Beer. Madison Beer. Who's on the shit list? He's the one that you call the 14-year-old. Oh, he looks like he's – I saw him at the pool at the one, and he looked like he was like 14 max.

Maybe that's why he quit because you said that about him. He quit? Yeah. I mean, he didn't quit, but, like, he's just not active and doesn't do anything with it. He got one of the all-time pulls like yeah that's tough that's tough to walk down the street when you're like oh that's gonna be your little brother it might be the it might be the climax of his life actually that that never mind getting the fame and fortune that's that's you've got to hold on to that. All right. Yeah. Next one. Sherry Nicole Addison's mom.

No, but that's just because. Hard no, he said. Yeah, easy no. No, I mean, I love Sherry, but it just doesn't make sense. Okay. No moms allowed. That would help. I mean, everything I've heard about her, she just puts asses in seats.

I feel like it would be funny. It would be a new demographic. Could be funny, yeah. She's a Barstool fan. She just followed BFFs, Barstool Sports, Dave. She loves Barstool. No way.

Let's go. Yeah, I think she will try to get... We have Addison in a couple weeks. We'll try to do it. Yeah, maybe she'll come along. Jacob Sartorius. Fuck yeah. I heard this kid fucking smokes weed.

I heard this kid smokes weed. He's so fucking sick. This kid's sick. This kid burns. No, no, no. I'm just joking around. I've talked to him like a couple times, but I don't like him. I feel like the musical kids got like the worst generation.

Like I feel like they got fucked. Yeah, they got fucked. They got the worst group. Like no one respected them. No one cared. Like at least tiktokers have built a little something a little yeah these kids get shit on taking out the kardashians like i mean like we it's kind of cool but jacob was at jacob was at a crazy level he was

dating millie bobby brown like i wouldn't say he was like i forgot about that oh my god yeah like he was massive at one point he was pulling over like one million likes in Insta photo. Yeah. He got into a big thing with one of our guys. KB is like a wrestler. They want to wrestle, and he sent the entire all our people. I have like Jacob Saturis merch. I have like sweatshirts and shit.

I wear them around. They're not bad. Oh, you're a Team Jacob? Oh, yeah. Here it is right here. I could be more on board for this jacob that's fucking awesome that $50,000 slapbox match yeah i'd love to see that that'd be hilarious who wait wait wait who's who's he talking to this is to kb our one of our someone that works for us said you a pussy come catch these hands who do you think would win, Dave? KB.

I would be rooting for Satoris. KB's twice his age. He's a grown man. And he's a wrestler? I feel like the Musical.ly kids. I think the problem was they never branched out of 12-year-olds. Well, Josh is a Musical.ly kid. The one of the few that made it.

Chase was a Musical.ly kid too. Yeah, no, Chase was. Me and Chase knew each other when we both did musically like when we were like maybe 16, 15 or something like that was he still dressing like a weirdo oh yeah I respect that I think he was

funny enough Josh and I talked about Hype House before it was Hype House yeah I was gonna say like me and, because it was funny as fuck, because when we had that conversation, me and Michael had just started talking about doing our house, and I remember we were like, oh, what if we just combine the two, right? So Thomas was talking to me. I think that was, like, the first night Charlie had come over to your guys' house too, no?

Yeah. And then we were all talking about, like like what we wanted to do with the houses, whatever. Then it turned into a house rivalry. Honestly, probably way smarter. Probably way smarter. Way smarter. Do you guys ever like kind of look around and just be like,

I know you're so far in it, it may be hard to step out of it. But when you talk about me and josh talked about doing the house beforehand and charlie came over and addison's the amount of people that have been spawned like from this world where apparently you guys knew each other forever yeah i mean i took pictures of josh at uh knott's berry farm josh blake like all these people like before and i remember seeing like the amount of fans at that time at knott's berry farm was unreal and that was before it even got started like that was that's also because we just came off we just came off lights out tour after that right we just came off our tour yeah yeah yeah yeah so we were like i probably had a seventh of my following like at that time you know what's insane you know what is

not good for BFF podcasts and people like myself I feel like we're in a cooling era right now I don't know if you feel that Brie but like all the animosity and the rivalries there's no dying jump out to me right now yeah there's no there's no drama really it's boring yeah i mean we did just you guys gotta spice it up stabbing tires at our podcast dave i don't know i guess that was crazy but that was different that was like fight that's true that that that jake has moved though into like the box i i look at him legitimately now like boxer over anything else me too i look at him are we in summer right now and and Logan are the two people I view who have made it in social media. Yes.

They're not going anywhere. And Shawn Mendes are the three that like have made it from social media. Well, I mean, it depends how far like even you could go back. Like Bieber was like a YouTube guy, really. Or like Will Burnham or like some of the comedians that have come out. Like there's people like that. But I feel like my whole goal from this is to be able to get to like that level where it's like i did it like i did it for a while i made it i'm good like that that's my i would say dave that you did that

dave you did that yeah yeah yeah i i don't know how people describe like we're a newspaper to start and then like blogging before social media. But yeah, internet for sure. I always say we're the oldest digital media company in the universe because we started as it went. All right. Anything else? It was an interesting interview. Great interview. Yeah.

Got a lot of insight. Yeah. I'm curious to see. Have you seen any of the Netflix show? Yeah, a little bit. So how realistic would you say it is? Realistic, but I can't really get a full grasp because I've only seen like 10 minutes of it. And there's going to be eight 30-minute episodes.

Right, so you don't know how to cut it and shit. You don't know if they cut it differently. I have to watch it all, yeah, because I don't know. And they can't really show me even though I'm a producer on it because it's like conflict of interest because they don't want me to be like hey i want you to cut this or portray you a certain way yeah so i'm like i but i was like i just want to watch it because i want to know if it's good or not like that's why yeah yeah they're keeping you in the dark geez yeah that's kind of scary a little bit it's terrifying they could portray you however they want.

There was cameras installed in our house for 10 weeks. Just nonstop? It's like old school MTV, like real world type shit. In your bedroom? Big Brother, however you want to do it. They can cut it any way they want. Was it in your bedroom? No, just main kitchen, downstairs, outside. I was going to say, how are you jerking off?

Other stuff. All right, well, downstairs, outside. I was going to say, how are you jerking off? Oh, there's more. All right. Well, that was interesting. I found that super interesting. I appreciate you coming on. Everybody, make sure to check out the show. Wait, one more thing. We didn't quite finish the game,

and it gets a little bit interesting with the Hype House game. So let's just – No, you guys got on the Sartorius thing, but it gets more interesting. So there's only a few more. Okay. Zoe Laverne. Oh, God, no.

Yeah. The hardest pass ever. Hard pass. Why was that such a hard pass? She dated a 13-year-old. Oh, damn. Yeah. Can't do that.

Nope. This girl dated a 13-year-old? How old is she? Am am i wrong am i right she dated like no you're right dave we talked about this on the pod remember we were like you know that guy probably went to school and was like guys i got a she's pretty what are you doing all right gross next yeah bryce hall um yes but legally it would be a nightmare but yeah i was gonna say that's a liability. That is a liability. It is a liability, but yeah.

That's like hold your breath, pray. The Hype House is going to have so many views, so much things. There's going to be so much controversy. Same with Jake Paul, though. Hopefully you just come out the other side with the Hype House still in one piece. Yeah. Mads Lewis. No.

No? Why? Wow. Mads Lewis No No Why Wow Only because of Same drama Like There's good drama And there's bad drama And I've

Known Mads For a long time And No We froze What's the drama with her No no I love Mads

I've known her for a really long time She's sweet But like Like I don't know I've just seen some things with her back when she was you know dating who she was and like i saw things in person where i was like i couldn't deal with this in person too much drama yeah too much josh oh this guy's

fucking sexy yeah yeah fuck yeah thrown me in there pretty chicken fry i could come chicken fry i mean what's she gonna say no it'd be super rude you're right here yeah i don't know i've never seen your social media or anything yeah you could check it out i wouldn't fit the brand at all i would get you guys in trouble so kick me out yeah all right last last one. Last one, Dave. Yeah, sure. Wow, that was like reluctant. Again, what's he going to do? Say no?

I would never live in a house. Please. I have enough problem. My gas fucking tries to sleep over my house every night. Enough of that. I could never fucking leave my house. You don't like cuddling up in a house? Yes. You don't love cuddling with Kareem, Dave?

Please, please. Kareem, too, another one. Every time I have a place, people are inviting themselves over. All right, that's it for the game. Appreciate it. Thank you. Nice meeting you, man. Thank you.

Thanks for coming on, Thomas. Take care. Later, Josh. Peace.