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Episode Date: July 10, 2025The BFFs are joined by recently dumped Love Island USA contestants TJ and Jaden. TJ offers his candid thoughts on Iris and Pepe’s budding relationship and weighs in on who he believes should take ho...me the win. Meanwhile, Jaden opens up about the current status of her relationship with Austin and spills the tea on the most frequently asked fan questions. 00:00 TJ Interview 24:55 Jaden Interview Subscribe to the podcast now: https://barstool.link/3m4Q0Fq Follow TJ on Socials: IG: https://www.instagram.com/tjpalmaa/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tjpalmaa?_t=8XwJn2BFO0J&_r=1 Follow Jaden on Socials: IG: https://www.instagram.com/jadenashleyd/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jadenashleyd Check out the BFFs Social Media Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bffspod/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/BFFsPod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bffspod Follow Josh Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshrichards/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@joshrichards?lang=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/JoshRichards Follow Brianna Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/briannalapaglia/?hl=en TikTiok: https://www.tiktok.com/@briannachickenfry?lang=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/bchickenfry?lang=en Check out Barstool Sports for more: http://www.barstoolsports.comYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/bffspod
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I guess I kind of took it all, didn't I?
You did.
Well, let's get into that.
Let's go.
All right guys, welcome back to BFFs.
We have a very special guest.
We have TJ dumped from the villa straight to BFFs.
What's going on?
What's up, man?
How are you?
I'm good.
How are you guys?
Thanks for having me.
We're good.
Yeah, I'm going to interview you right post show.
It's an honor.
There was a clip of you were on the VyloFiles.
And the first thing he said to you is, are you okay?
I'm good, I promise I'm good.
You're good, you just said that you're in LA
for the first time ever, who else are you with
from the show, hanging out with?
Yeah, and so this is my first day in LA,
I'm staying with Austin and Charlie,
I'm sleeping on the couch the next couple days.
There we go, there we go. I'm sleeping on the couch the next couple days. There we go.
There we go.
I gotta say, one of my favorite clips
I think I've seen post-show,
or like when people come off the show
and they're answering comments or they're going live,
probably one of my favorite clips actually of all time
coming out of Love Island is you on live on your couch
and you're sitting there looking and reading comments
and you're like, oh
I just got cracked shit. At least I gotta go camping. Oh
In all time favorite clip of mine. Oh
I appreciate you know, honestly
I didn't know what that comment was saying until I read it and like you could you could tell like halfway through I stopped
reading and I was like shit, but
Yeah And like you could you could tell like halfway through I stopped reading and I was like shit, but yeah
I've been there. I've been there you read a live comment. You're not really trying to read the comment and then you got to go from there
It's a tough situation. Yeah, and I'm not I'm not really good with social media and like I never was
So I'm just trying to get used to it and everything. I was like my first live ever to them. So
Well, people are saying I mean included, you're one of the funniest
like contestants on social media after coming out of the villa. You're kind of crushing it.
Which is crazy because I never would have thought that. Like I said I'm so new to social media so
like this whole thing, this whole space is new to me so I'm just trying to do my best and I feel like
I have a decent sense of humor and I'm just trying to do my best. And I feel like I have a decent sense of humor. And I'm just trying to like, you know, show the audience
that the people that like didn't get to see that on the show.
Yeah, you're crushing it.
Thank you.
So for like you, what was the reason to go on the show then? Because I know there's a
lot of people that will go on the show and you know, there is the like, find love aspect.
But I think there's a lot of people that go on the show and you know, there is the like find love aspect, but I think there's a lot of people that go
on the show and they go on and it's like, okay, my socials are
going to get boosted. Like there are a lot of semi influencers
or people that were already doing social media that went on
the show this season. So if it wasn't a social boost for you,
what was like the true reason you wanted to go on the
violent? It was really because of like finding love. I feel
like I haven't had the best dating experience
And I don't really love the day and I'm super picky and like I thought this would be a great experience
Regardless like it's just a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. So it's like something that
Probably is never gonna come around again
So it's like one of those things where I felt like I had to do it regardless
But also like the love aspect like I just want to find that person.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, definitely.
I think a lot of us thought you did find that person with Iris.
I think you thought you found that person with Iris.
So when you got dumped from the Villa, I hate saying that it sounds so dramatic,
but when you got dumped from the villa what what was going
through your head like did you ever think oh maybe it could be a possibility Iris would leave with me
or we could make this work like what was your feeling about Iris when you left? Yeah so I think
in the moment um I was like completely stunned like people wouldn't say like sorry and like you
know this is a tough decision and whatnot I just didn't really have any words because it didn't feel real to me yet.
So like, you know, now I've processed it.
But also in the moment.
Yeah, I didn't really think about Iris leaving with me like yeah it was an option. But at the end of the day, like it's her experience and I told her that, hey listen, I want you to go through with this
because I don't want you to have any regrets.
You'll probably never get to do this ever again.
And I just felt like it's her experience, not mine,
and I wanted her to go through with it.
So that was kind of the conversation that we had.
And we agreed, or she said she was gonna wait a couple days
and think about it, whatever. but I told her like hey listen like
you're strong you got this and like I just want you to go through with it and
that's kind of like where we left off but you know throughout the whole process I
always thought like would this work on the outside and I always thought it
would like we had the same you know morals values the same we want to get
the same things out of life so So we just connected on that level.
And yeah, it was tough leaving,
but you know, what are you going to do
at the end of the day?
Yeah. Yeah. I got to ask,
have you watched any of the show since leaving?
So I've watched, I didn't watch last night's episode,
but I've watched the last few episodes since I left.
Okay.
And I haven't watched the ones that I was in,
because I feel like it's so weird watching me on TV.
Watching yourself on TV?
Yeah, it's so weird.
Yeah, because I was gonna say, I was gonna say like,
even your response you just gave,
I had said to Brie on last week's episode,
it felt like to me, you and Iris were like,
one of the only two people and the only couple that went on that show and
were just about
building a relationship and building a connection and you know falling in love ultimately because
Everyone else was always in the drama and with that it seemed like I was like, you know, where is my TJ?
Where's my TJ screen time? What's going on here? Like why are they, you know, they're cutting to all the drama throughout the show.
And I'm like, yo, put that guy TJ back on the screen.
This guy actually gets the point of the show.
Yeah, I think, you know, me and her were just
super unproblematic and like drama-free.
And not that we didn't care about what the hell
was going on, but it was just like,
it was like a bit childish to us.
And like, we were just like in our own world
and I appreciate that. And I'm super, you super you know drama free and I don't like that shit
but yeah I haven't watched everything back so I don't know what they show to
me but I've heard that it's not a lot and you know I'm not mad about it I
think I went about it the right way and like that's all I could ask for
oh yeah you you say and you guys were clearly because they didn't show you a away and like that's all I could ask for. Oh, yeah.
You you say you guys were clearly because they didn't show you a lot.
There wasn't a lot of drama with you and Iris.
But as viewers, we've been locked the hell in on the show.
There's it comes off as like a very drama filled island.
Like people are always going at each other.
And of course, it's a show and we don't get to see all of it.
But when you're in the villa, was there tension?
Did it feel like there were drama between Huda and Shelly
and the girls or the guys?
What did it actually feel like living in there?
Or was it just kind of dramatized for us viewers?
Yeah, I mean, obviously you guys only see a few percent
of what actually happens.
But I would definitely say that waking up for example after the postcard night I felt like there was a
lot of tension. I didn't know who to talk to because I just felt like everybody
was on edge. But some days like that, yeah definitely. I feel like majority of
the time everybody gets along and everyone speaks their mind and I felt
like everyone was having a good time.
We were all super genuine and just being ourselves.
So I never looked at it as like,
oh my God, everyone's always in drama.
But there was definitely a lot of days where I was like,
oh shit, like what is going on?
And I was kind of out of the loop sometimes,
like that postcard night, I was looking around like I didn't know that happened, you know, and I think Iris was kind of like
in the same boat. But yeah, but there was definitely some tension.
Were there any guys that you felt you didn't really connect with in the Villa or that you
probably wouldn't be friends with outside of it? Or did you do you think you guys can
all got along well?
I think I didn't get the chance to really get to know the Casa Boys as much. We only
had a handful of days and they were in their own group and stuff. But I'm here with them
now and they're all great people. I think all the OG guys that when I came in, they
were all super welcoming and that's all I could ask for.
And there's nobody I didn't get along with, to be honest.
There's people that I was closer with, like Pepe, Nick,
but yeah, Pepe, Nick, Austin,
but there's nobody that we didn't connect with,
you know what I'm saying?
Damn, to hear you say you were closest with Pepe.
Yeah.
And now it's like,
A little like,
Oh!
Yeah.
It's tough.
It's tough seeing it because, you know, I'm human,
but I just remind myself that, you know,
he's there for himself and like,
I don't expect him to do anything for me.
Like I'm out of there, you know,
if I was in there and he was doing something,
even then, you know, it's Love Island, like this is his experience and that's what you're supposed
to do. So I can't blame him at all and I have nothing bad to say about him and I never would
say anything bad about him. Did you expect him, did you expect him to stand behind you?
Yeah, I really did. I'm pretty sure in that episode, you could see the smile on my face
when he's walking up to me.
And then he kinda goes around me and says,
I'm sorry, and my head drops.
And that shocked me just because throughout that day,
again, I don't know what they've shown,
but throughout that day, he was just praising
Iris and I's relationship and how good she was,
how good of a
like couple I was I guess
and So I was like really expecting him to stand behind me and you know when he didn't it hurt
But I just hope that in his mind at that time like that was the right he thought that was the right choice
And you know as long as he thought that I'm all right with it.
Do you think it was fair? Or do you think because Taylor, I
don't know how to say it without sounding like a hater, because
I might be a little bit of a Taylor haters just from the
beginning of all the Landry stuff. But do you think that
everyone that stood behind him should have stood behind him?
Like, what do you think about She that stood behind him should have stood behind him?
What do you think about Shelly, Sierra standing behind him?
So I think the biggest shocks were Pepe and,
not Austin, Pepe and Sierra.
Sierra was so close to Iris,
we would go on double dates with Nick and Sierra,
but I still expected Nick and Ace to stand behind Taylor.
Like, I just assumed that was going to happen just based off of like friendship.
But I think Hoda also shocked me with Iris standing behind Hoda that one time,
saving her over Jalen.
So there was just a few that it just didn't really make sense to me.
But I think Ciara shocked me the most and definitely shocked Iris because she couldn't
believe it.
She was like, well, none of my friends stood behind you.
Like this is crazy.
And I agree.
Do you think that they were following Ace?
Like did it actually feel like Ace was kind of the ringleader in the house or like kind
of what he said everyone would follow behind? I don't think it was like a ringleader in the house or like kind of what he said everyone would follow
behind?
I don't think it was like a ringleader thing.
He definitely had a strong opinion.
Everyone like took that into account.
But like at the end of the day, everyone makes their own decision.
And you know, like I said, they probably take it into account.
But I don't think they base their votes solely off of him.
But he definitely has a strong opinion.
Yeah, because they very much like the perception on the outside of the Villa for all us viewers
is like Ace is very much the guy that's, you know, stirring the pot.
He's a little bit of a shit disturber.
And he also has like very strong it seems like whenever he has a decision made,
a lot of people in the villa tend to follow it.
Is that more of a editing thing that's going on
or is there some truth to that actually on this show?
I would say there's some truth to that
just because I feel like since the jump,
those guys, like I came in as a bombshell obviously,
but those guys were super close from the jump those guys like I came in as bombshell obviously, but those guys were super close from the jump. So
Coming into that like those guys have their own opinions on everything and I think that they kind of really stick together
Not that we didn't have conversations and we couldn't you know discuss things
But I think that he did have a strong or does have a strong opinion
And people take that into account,
but I don't think like, you know,
he makes a decision and everyone listens,
I don't think so, but yeah, he does always speak his mind.
And I feel like, you know, that's always shown.
You were just talking about coming in as a bombshell.
How like, how nervous were you
coming in with Meg the stallion? So I didn't, I thought I was coming in alone and I was, I was shaking and then
I found out like I was coming in with Andrena and then Megan the Stallion was coming that made me
even more nervous when I heard that. But you can't see in the episode but I was shaking like my legs
were shaking standing next to Meg and it was just super nerve wracking. I didn't know in the episode, but I was shaking. Like my legs were shaking, standing next to Meg. And it was just super nerve wracking.
I didn't know what to do, who to talk to.
Like it was just super nerve wracking,
but I got through it and it was a fucking great experience.
How close to it do you find out
that you're walking in with Meg Thee Stallion?
Did they tell you right before
or did you know a little bit beforehand?
So I, they told me it was a special guest and then they probably told me like an hour or two beforehand
and then they had me do like the walk-in shoots with the camera following me and she was like in front of me
getting her makeup done and she kept looking at me and I was like really distracted.
The producer was like telling me to like walk this way and I'm like what like they're like TJ like you're good and I was like looking at Meg like a couple hours before.
Wait how? I always wonder this this is just kind of a silly question but how awkward are
those shots that you guys have to make because you have to do all these like sexy walks you
have to like touch yourselves like how long do those take and how often did you have to
do them? Oh?
I don't know
They were alright for me like the first few were nerve-wracking
Nerve-wracking like everyone watching you there's a whole crew you got to do it like ten times and
So that was super nerve-wracking, but once you do it a few times like it's it you get over it And everyone's like everyone doesn't care, no one's judging you.
I think that's what I was more worried about, like, oh, how do I look?
What do these people think?
But nobody cares.
I know we have limited time, but we do have a lot of questions we want to know.
We want to make sure we get them all in.
But I think what everyone wants to know and everyone's freaking out about is in the challenge where you guys like
I'll have to dress up the heart rate challenge
Did Hoda like sit on ace's face? Did they cut something that we're not seeing?
Did she sit on his face? I feel like I'm like pretty I didn't also I didn't watch the episode
So I don't know what they showed but I'm sure she did not sit on his face
I think that she did go a little overboard
With the challenge, and I think a lot of people didn't like that
But I also think that hooded and mean it in a malicious way and you know
She she's over. She's always known for going hard and challenges
but I think some people took it as like,
it's getting late in the season, and this is my man,
and you're going overboard with it.
And I think that's where the disconnect was.
Do you think, OK, so clearly everyone freaked out
about that for Hoda in the villa.
Shelly was freaking out.
People thought it was disrespectful.
And then now we kind of fast forward and Sierra left the villa and Alandria immediately with
Nick, but it's just kind of not talked about. It's like whatever, no one's saying that maybe
that's not a girl's girl's thing to do. What do you, what do you think about Nick and Alandria
together?
So I think it's okay that, you know, Elandria is exploring and being Sierra's friend
just because it's Love Island again.
Like it's a completely different world
than the outside world.
And I hope like in real life she wouldn't do that,
but I feel like in Love Island it's okay.
And I love Elandria and I love Nick too.
Like I think he's the best.
Do I think it's like super real?
I have no idea. I feel like now
that Ciara's gone and Taylor's gone too, that they could really like focus on each other and like
figure it out without any like distractions or like Ciara and Taylor watching. So I hope it's real,
you know. I would like to think so but I know they tried it before and didn't really work out So that's the only thing that's a little sketchy to me. I don't know. I
Don't think it's real
No, I don't think I feel like that was our guess
Yeah, I mean Josh
We really said that you and Iris felt like one of the only real couples and it's just keen
It seems like everyone's scrambling to win at this point.
And I hate to even say it, but Iris and Pepe,
just because I'm saying it to you,
but Iris and Pepe do seem like, I don't know,
they could be good in the outside world.
I like to look at it in that sense.
And what are your thoughts on Amaya and Brian?
So I love Amaya. Amaya is like, she's so funny and I think she's hilarious.
And just like very misunderstood.
Brian, I like honestly, I really didn't get to talk to him much,
but I think he's a good, good ass guy and they look good together.
I hope it's real and I hope like, you know, they
both genuinely have feelings for each other and they genuinely genuinely want to be with
each other. And it's not just like, all right, you're here. You're the only person left type
of deal. But I like them. I think if anybody was to probably win, it would probably be
them to be honest. If you could give the money, TJ gets 100 grand to give to his, his winning couple.
Who are you picking? I would give it to, I would give it to me and Iris back in the day.
But probably not Brian. Brian, Brian. Yeah. There we go. There we go. When you were ultimately
having to choose between Iris and
Vana, like how quickly did you know the decision was Iris? Was
it all the time Iris? Was it like something that you had to
have a couple of conversations or where was your mind at?
So my mind with the whole experience was like, I'm just
gonna be present and like try to immerse myself in this crazy
experience. So when I
was in CASA I did my best to like try and not think about Iris over in CASA.
That was obviously hard and she was always in the back of my mind but I went
into it like I'm gonna give these CASA girls the best like chance to get to
know me and I don't want to you know take that experience away from them. I
think that my first conversation with Vanna went super good and there was a to get to know me and I don't want to, you know, take that experience away from them.
I think that my first conversation with Vanna went super good and there was a lot not shown
after that, that just led to like my final decision. But I think after like our last
conversation that day, I knew where my head was at completely. And I was okay with like
going home and I knew that. And, um,
I just didn't want to fake something with Vanna and then, and just stay,
because I, you can tell, like, I just didn't really, uh,
vibe with her towards the end at all. And, you know, I saw her last night.
She's a great person that we just didn't get along romantically, but it was,
you know, it was like always Iris.
It was always Iris.
This is why I'm team TJ.
Let's go, Josh.
Green might be over there, you know, cheering on Pepe, but I'm all TJ.
I'm all TJ over here, dog.
Let's go, guys.
When I get back to LA, we'll all hang, all right?
Let's do it. Let's do it.
There we go. There we go.
I do have one more question,
it's also kind of stupid, but I'm so curious.
So you and Iris, you guys went and you went camping,
but you left the room, so you didn't do it inside the room.
What is it like?
Do you hear people having sex all night
in the room together?
Is it quiet?
Do you know what's going on?
Do people actually have sex?
What's the deal with that?
So yeah, people definitely have sex. I feel like for me, I was like so tired every day
and like when I finally got to bed, I just knocked out. So I really didn't wake up and
like hear people. But like every morning people would be like, oh my God, like, did you hear
like, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I'd be like, no, I'm sleeping. But yeah,
definitely. Under those covers.
Getting nasty.
Do you think you were correctly perceived on the show, TJ?
No, I think I mean, I'm like an introvert. I have like the
extrovert side of me, but I'm more quiet than not
I feel like a lot of the clips they showed to me was we're super awkward and like
People come up to me on the street like yo, you're actually like a good guy like you're cool and and I'm like
Like maybe I have to watch these episodes
But you know, what are you gonna do they didn't show me much and I think that's why I was in the bottom three
I don't think that people disliked me. I think it was just more of
We didn't get to see TJ
If that makes sense. Yeah, no, definitely
Yeah
Is there is there any one like couple right now that you don't think should be a couple?
Currently. Yeah
Well, you think they should have ended with someone else maybe or be with someone else? Yeah I think I need to think about this one.
It's kind of hard.
Well who do we have?
We have Ace and Shelly.
Yeah.
We have Alandria, Nick, Huda and Chris and then Pepe and Iris.
Is that it? And Maya and Brian, sorry.uda and Chris, and then Pepe and Iris.
Is that it?
And Maya and Brian, sorry.
Maya and Brian, yeah.
I think,
I think Brian always wanted to speak to Jaden,
and I thought they have a good connection.
But that never happened, she got kicked off that night,
that's kinda like why he voted for her.
So I was interested in seeing that.
But I don't know.
I think Chris was very interested in Shelley.
And I thought that could possibly work out.
I know Shelley and Ace have been together for a while.
And I think that...
Like how long? Like before the bill?
I mean, I didn't know that. I thought they just you know
knew each other from the outside but supposedly word on the street is they were together. I don't
know. Correct me if I'm wrong. That's just word on the street. That's yeah I'm just hearing that
through the grapevine. There's whispers going on. Yeah I didn't know anything about that so.
going on. Yeah, I didn't know anything about that. So TJ is officially confirming that he heard
they were dating before the show. No, I did not know. I saw them on a date three years ago.
All I know is that they knew each other beforehand. I see what you're doing.
Romantically, they've known each other before and I get it. I see what you're doing though. Romantically they've known each other before and I get it. I see what you're doing. TJ said it.
TJ said it.
No, I didn't.
Why weren't you invited to Vanna's birthday party?
I was, but I couldn't make it.
I was with family and I just flew last night.
I thought there was beef, but I guess you said you saw her,
so there's no beef.
No, there's no beef
We talked last night. It was it was awesome. It was all chill
All right. Well This was awesome. I could ask you questions about the villa all day long. I would
Wish we had a little bit more time, but maybe I'll get some good inside scoop stuff and we when we link in LA
Yeah, let's do it. All right. I've already already talked to Austin too so we'll get all we'll get
all the guys together oh yeah let's do it yeah okay sorry you're all the way in
New York it guess if you make the flight you can come hang okay thanks boys no
problem no problem thank you TJ thank so much. I appreciate you guys.
Hey, thank you, man. Thank you for coming on.
Oh, my gosh. You look so pretty. What the hell?
Thank you. You're so pretty.
Thank you. Okay. Are we good, guys?
I'm also here, though, too. I'm also here.
Okay. We're here. We only have limited time,
so we want to get all of our time with you.
We have Jayden from Love Island, USA.
How are we feeling?
How are we doing?
Good, I'm happy.
I'm happy.
I'm overwhelmed for sure.
Excited to talk to you guys.
I am in LA right now, but still living in Seattle
and it's been really fun and cool to see
a lot of the people.
It seems like everybody goes to LA right after the show wraps like that was the same with
the cast last season too. Is this something that like Love Island tells you guys to do
or do you guys just all want to go hang out post show and you're like oh let's just all
go to LA? I think we all just want to hang out, post show. And the majority of the cast,
I feel like always lives in LA.
So it's just the most convenient.
Makes sense, makes sense.
Have you seen Austin in LA yet?
Barely, I saw him last night,
but it was like a really short interaction,
unfortunately, because it was so late.
I had to go, I had to go home.
And that was really nice.
But I think we had a discussion just about us both being super overwhelmed with the whole
process.
And I think we definitely want to still explore.
But I think we both are planning to like come
back to each other when things have like calmed down a little bit.
Okay.
So, so you guys want to explore each other or you're, you're exploring other connections
outside of the Villa?
Outside of the Villa.
You pulled them for a chat and talked to them about this?
Yeah, I pulled them for a chat last night.
That's so funny because that's actually what I said.
The lingo sticks for a bit, eh?
It does.
Yeah, I think we both just like, I don't know, I had no social media presence or anything
before.
I'm not sure that he did either.
So I think just we are both extremely overwhelmed and not really even sure like what we're doing
right now.
So like with our own lives.
So I think we're trying to figure that out before we take anything too seriously like
together.
But we're both still very interested in each other.
Okay, I like that.
That's a that's not sure way to go about it. Do you think
you're overwhelmed? Because maybe are like a lot of people sliding in your DMS now? You
know, I haven't even looked. No way you haven't even looked. No, no. I feel like I'm so overwhelmed like scrolling like it just doesn't end.
And I've like never seen that in my life.
So there's not like one username, not one username,
maybe with like a blue check that stood out in the DMs.
No, like I haven't looked at all like genuinely.
I think Dean dead serious.
I believe you.
I believe you.
She's still she's still. My believe you. I believe you.
She's still, she's still my violin.
Yeah, there we go.
Yeah.
I feel like if it wasn't for a few of my friends, like, I don't even know they've helped me
like you need to post you post like I, I feel like my friends were always telling me to
post before a violin, post. I feel like my friends were always telling me to post before Love Island, otherwise I
wouldn't.
So I think it's just a lot.
I'm trying to be better at social media now.
When you guys go onto the show, someone runs everyone's account for them.
Is that something that Love Island tells you guys to do?
And how did you pick someone to run your account for you?
I think they definitely recommend it,
but not everyone, it's optional.
Not everyone does it.
I, it was honestly a hard decision.
At first I just thought, okay, mom, you got this.
And she, I tried showing her how to put a song
on like a photo on Instagram and she couldn't, she was so confused and I was like, okay, this is not
going to work out. I was like, I don't think I'm trying to teach her about hashtags. And I was like,
yeah, I think I got to pick somebody who knows they're doing a little bit more.
And I, I picked my friend who's just really good at social media.
Yeah, she crushed it. Do you think she did a good job?
I do. I do. Especially from like what I've seen. I haven't seen all the episodes yet.
And I don't think like, I think with what she was given, absolutely. I think she pushed it. Yeah.
Have you been keeping up with the show post like you exiting?
Like have you been watching episodes? Like after you? Have
you watched any of the episodes with you on? I know you said you
hadn't watched like all of the show yet. But what have you
watched?
I've watched, I think the first three or three to four episodes I was in and then I have kept up with the show through social media.
I do want to watch it, especially now being friends with everybody.
I want to see it, but I just haven't had time.
She's LA busy girl. She's getting crazy. She doesn't have time. She's pulling awesome for chat.
She doesn't have time to watch the show.
And there's no peacock in Fiji.
Oh, true.
Which is ironic.
But yeah, I feel like I could have caught up there if it were available.
How long do you have to stay in Fiji after you're dumped from the villa?
I think everybody is different,
but most people do after sun.
So you get dumped and then you go back to the hotel
until after sun and you don't get your phone back yet.
You don't get any, everything is basically the same
as it was before you
went in the villa until you've done after sun.
Okay. And how long were you in Fiji before you entered for Casa? Were you there from
the beginning of the show? Like waiting in a hotel?
No, I actually went in the very beginning with on like the very beginning and then they flew me home and said we might
fly you back and I wasn't sure that was actually going to happen or not. But then they did
end up flying me back for for Casa obviously. So I didn't have to wait in the hotel too
long.
Oh, so when you originally flew there, did you think you were
like going to be one of the OGs on the season?
I did.
Wow, that's so interesting. So they must be like last minute
picking who they want the cast to be.
Yes, it's very last minute. I feel like they've changed their
mind like, every day leading up to the first day of filming too.
Yeah, I feel like they have to they're probably thinking about who would even be good connections
in there like what's gonna fit and who would be a match but oh my god I would be so sad if I flew
there and they were like yeah you're leaving you're not you're you're going home. I know and I think unfortunately that happens more than you think.
I think that happens to a lot of people.
So when they told me, oh, we might fly you back, I was like, yeah, I don't think I'm
going to be back here.
Oh, there's a...
Who, when like you...
Oh, sorry, sorry.
My bad.
Someone, wait, Bri, can I pause for someone?
Someone keeps knocking on my door.
Yeah.
I'll, I'll, I'll talk.
I'm so sorry, guys.
I'm so sorry, guys.
Give me one second.
Wait, I wonder who's knocking on his door.
He's in Cabo.
He decided to just go to Cabo this week.
Oh, that's nice.
Yeah.
He's having fun.
And he's back. All right. I'm so Yeah, he's having fun. And he's
back.
All right, I'm so sorry, guys. I'm so sorry. I'm in my own
villa right now.
Wait, I want to I want to talk about you actually being in the
villa. So you coming in, you're a casa girl, you have to do
like all the crazy makeout challenge in the beginning.
You're there. You're with the boys. Did you have your eye on anyone?
Immediately that you wanted like right when you guys sat down on those bleachers was there like someone you're like damn
I want that person
No, I think I had my eye on austin before going in so
I kind of knew that but it was
So I kind of knew that, but it was interesting seeing them in person for sure. Like just seeing like things that you don't really notice on TV, like for instance, height,
like things like that.
But and they're all more attractive in person.
I swear all of them.
How about is Ace really 5'10"?
I think so. Really? There was a little bit of a
hesitant answer there. I feel like that on what heels I wore, I was
taller than how tall are you? How tall are you without us?
Five, seven. I'm five, seven. So I feel like
were you ever wearing four man shields?
Well, I think we got the answer, folks.
We got to the bottom of that one pretty quickly.
That was pretty quick.
That was pretty quick, wasn't it?
Oh my gosh.
When, okay, when you first had to do your recoupling, I don't know why.
It was something in me.
I was like, no, I know that she's going to stand up and picnic.
I really thought, and I think everyone watching thought you were gonna like leave Austin and pick Nick just because they showed us
Some conversation that you guys had had and it kept showing us that Nick was kind of interested in you
So I want to know is it ever a thought that crossed your mind to even pick Nick or or not and why didn't you?
Nick or or not and why didn't you?
Uh, honestly, it did cross my mind because I feel like a quality that I am looking for and was looking for is like a sense of humor and I feel like Austin
and Nick definitely both have that.
But I feel like something that stood out like,
and made them a little bit different
in making that decision was I felt so comfortable
around Austin, the whole situation
and the feeling of being in the villa is so uncomfortable.
And he's like the only person that I felt like peace
when I was with.
I feel like I wasn't nervous about anything. I wasn't overthinking
when I was with Austin. But it was a really hard decision because typically like I feel like us
girls always say like we wish we could take different qualities of different men sometimes
and like make one. But for both of them, I liked them both for the same reasons.
And that was just the only reason
about Austin that stood out.
Yeah, I mean, I could only imagine being thrown
into the villa.
And then also, being a casa girl,
I feel like you're just so scared that all the other girls
are going to hate you.
And you're already so overwhelmed.
I would 100% pick the person that made me feel comfortable
too. So that makes sense. Were you nervous?
And I think-
Sorry, keep finding.
I did not know. I thought him and Amaya were good. I thought Naked Sierra were good. So
that didn't really have anything to do with making that decision until speaking with Austin later than I was like, I was nervous about, you
know, stepping on toes and whatnot. But it helped going in with like a group of girls.
I wouldn't have had it any other way now.
Were you were you guys terrified like just as being the casa girls of meeting the OG
girls when they finally come back to the villa. What was it awkward?
Was there tension?
I was excited and nervous and I think I was the only one that said they were
nervous. I think all of us were, I was just one that said, but they were all so,
so nice that I had no reason to be nervous.
so, so nice that I had no reason to be nervous. I was curious to see how I didn't know how Amaya would react to Austin recoupling. I'm super happy that she was making other connections
the entire time. I was nervous about meeting some of them, but they all exceeded my expectations
as people.
That's good, because I know that Vanna went on another podcast and had said
that Huda was actually a really nice girl,
and that's when kind of the whole public perception of her
was that she was mean and she was awful,
and she had said that Shelly wasn't that nice
and that some of the girls were really mean,
but you experienced everyone being nice to you? Yeah and especially with Huda I asked Alandria because
we basically unpacked into that dressing room in any space that we could and basically we're taking over one of the girls' spaces in that moment.
So I asked Landria, whose closet am I using right now?
And she said, Huda's.
And I was like, oh, great.
I was like, I'm so scared.
I was like, I'm scared to tell her.
I took over her entire closet.
And I told her that was one of the first things I said to her.
And she was so cool.
She was like, I don't care. And she like gave 75% of the closet to me just because I was lacking space in other
areas. Like she was so sweet and so cool about it.
So do you think that's crazy to hear?
Because like, like I said, and I know you didn't watch all of it, but the public is so, I don't even know if they're 50-50
on Huda, if they like Huda, if they hate Huda.
It's like whiplash, but it's great to hear
that she's actually really kind to everyone in the villa.
So you think that she's not being perceived correctly
on the show?
Yeah, I would agree that she's not.
I think she's so sweet. She's definitely a dramatic.
But at least when it came to her and I's relationship, I feel like in a way maybe she was like, maternal
like to me because I was I was probably the most nervous or I might be the most introverted girl that was casted,
I feel like, and I feel like she kind of took me under her wing in a way.
So you guys connected really quickly.
That's great.
Is there any of the girls or guys, any of the contestants from the villa that you have like zero interest in speaking to again?
Honestly, no, I feel like I would be excited to see anybody
but I did not get to know like for the cause of guys that
unfortunately got dumped during the recoupling I actually just
Basically spoke to them for the first time last night. So
what was going on last night? Everyone was together. We just
had TJ on. He was like, he was Yeah, I was with everyone last
night.
Um, Andreina and I were kind of doing our own thing. So I wasn't
there for majority of the night.
And then it was her last night here.
So she was like, I was like, okay, fine.
We'll go see them, even though it was like two
in the morning.
So that's why unfortunately Austin and I didn't talk
for a long time.
We just showed up at the very end to say hi.
But I think everybody else was together
for like the entire night.
Oh, okay. Was it like a house party yeah I wonder if any new connections were made with
people yeah is there any yeah flirting in the LA Villa I don't think so. You didn't pick up any vibes of new couples? No.
All right.
All right.
No.
That's interesting though that you guys say that.
Now I'm actually...
Now you're thinking through the night a little bit more?
Yeah.
I know.
I'm like, what about you and TJ?
You're exploring new connections.
I'm like, would that ever be a connection?
No, we're really good friends. Like he's super, he's super sweet.
He's really nice.
Yeah, just had him on and he was huge. Great.
What do you think about Iris and Pepe?
I think it's wild, but they're very cute. Like, I feel like
they're cute. But I also haven't seen the episodes. It was just
shocking because of how upset she was and how saddened I feel like TJ may still
be that I do feel like their connection was super genuine and I feel like from
what I've seen on social media, at least, Pepe
and Iris were almost like, immediate, I don't know, I haven't seen it, but like immediately
coupled up. Like it almost took like no time. It was pretty fast. Yeah. So I think that's
like a little crazy, but I also know that Pepe didn't really have a strong connection and I could see them
being compatible.
Yeah.
Do you think part of it is got to go get in a couple it's like nearing the end of the
show try to win 100k?
I think most of us forget that there is a prize at the end of it.
Surprisingly, you don't really feel like you're on television when you're in there.
Like, I would forget all the time.
So for me, I even just forgot until you said that that there's 100k at the end.
So maybe maybe some people think about that. Yeah, I did not. I took it day by day. But
I do think in that atmosphere too, like, you do know that you have like, you have to couple
up.
Is there anyone on the show that you felt you didn't get a chance to connect with or have a
conversation with or somebody that you had your eyes on that you didn't explore besides Austin or
besides that quick chat like little chats with Nick? Brian. That's what TJ said about you.
Yeah, I think we had a lot more conversations that were not shown. And we were getting to
know each other quite a bit actually a lot more than I think was shown. So I also haven't
seen I wish I could see I want to see like how him and Amaya are doing. but I definitely, we spoke for a minute when I got dumped and we talked about
possibly talking when he were to get off the show. So we'll see.
I guess that will tell if like him and Amaya's connection is real, if he leaves the villa
and he goes straight to you, we'll see what we may do but he seems like a very genuine person like with all of his connections and I think like he
was exploring you a little bit he showed interest in you you haven't watched it but he would
talk about wanting to speak with you while you weren't even like around him to the other
guys and he also would talk about that with Amaya so it does feel like he's actually following
good connections and I feel like you guys would be compatible if him and Amaya don't work out.
Mm-hmm, yeah, I definitely spent more time with Austin.
Like, if there were a recoupling,
I would have still chose Austin,
but that was probably the only other connection
that I wanted to explore more.
Yeah, fair.
I've seen a lot of discourse about your eyeliner
on social media, which I don't even know
how you do it.
It's so perfect.
It's so great.
But did you did you sleep in it?
People were wondering.
Oh my gosh.
Not for like, what's it called vanity reasons?
What is it?
Yeah, not for me.
Not to be in vain.
No, literally not because I wanted to, to be quite honest.
There are some nights that go so late and you don't have the time to get really ready
like you do the night before.
So I'm like, yeah, if it stays on, great.
If it doesn't, great.
Like, there's a chance they will, so I just took my chances sometimes.
I love that.
I have a couple questions about just like the girl shit that I'm always so curious about.
So when you guys wake up, is it immediately get glam to go like have chats and stand by
in the pool?
How long do you guys glam for before that,
before going to the pool?
In the morning, you really, we did not have a lot of time.
We had less than an hour for sure.
It was depending on the day,
but I learned how to get ready so fast, real quick,
because you don't have a choice.
You're like 30 to 45 minutes to get ready
for the entire day.
And you guys like-
And that includes showering, you know, brushing your teeth.
It's not just like your makeup.
Holy shit.
And you guys have no like, for the girls,
no glam teams helping you or anything.
It's just you guys.
Yeah.
Oh my God, you guys are all so good.
Did any of you guys have razor burn. I forgot to ask ask that
Yes, I mean, I think all of us did at one point. I mean, yeah
Brand razors on the island like on the villa or is it like those like hotel razors that you get that just always cut
You know mad what? Oh
hotel razors that you get that just always cut you no matter what.
Oh my goodness. I had my razor still. I left it at the hotel. It was a good one. So I asked for one when I got there. It was like the one single blade. I was like, oh,
oh my God. It's a bloodbath. It's not going to be good.
Is there anything that you wish you were allowed to bring
to the villa with you that you couldn't?
Yes, I think for me, I love makeup
and I use like a magnified mirror.
They would not let me bring that.
And like a mirror with like a light, like
you could see the mirrors on the dressing room table, they don't turn on. So no good
lighting. The light kind of sucks.
Oh my gosh. Oh, we're done. We have to wrap up. We only have 25 minutes with you, sadly.
I could talk about the girl stuff all day long. It's all I want to know.
Me too. I love those questions.
Well, you are awesome. Thank you so much for coming on and I hope
maybe you and Austin find each other again.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you for having me.
Oh, thanks for coming on.
Yeah. Good luck in the LA Villa.
Thank you. Have fun. Bye guys. Bye.