BibleProject - Acts E3: Global Christianos

Episode Date: May 15, 2018

This is episode 3 in our series outlining the book of Acts! In part 1 (0-11:00), the guys briefly discuss the other Jewish messianic sects that were also in the ancient world. Jon comments that in his... imagination, there were just two sects of Judaism, the Pharisees and the Sadducees. Tim responds saying that in fact, Judaism was extremely diverse. There were more sects and messianic movements than just the ones that were explicitly covered in the Protestant Bible, and ancient Judaism had a whole spectrum of beliefs with nominal to radical followers. In part 2 (11:00-34:00), Tim outlines Acts chapter 8-11. This section is known as the persecution and scattering of the ancient church. Luke (the author) intentionally weaves stories of Peter and Saul/Paul together. Peter and Paul both wake up to the reality of the risen Jesus in two different ways. Peter’s vision on the rooftop, where God shows him that the kosher food laws no longer apply, would have been extremely offensive and destabilizing for ancient Jews. Jon says that it’s difficult for him to imagine the lives of ancient Jews and their customs. Jon asks if there are any modern cultural symbols that we hold to be true that could be equivalent to how the ancient Jews saw these laws. Tim comments that every culture has their norms, their accepted beliefs, and those who choose to break away or live outside of those cultural norms will be thought of as strange and potentially undermining the culture they live in. This is exactly how the early Christians were viewed. In part 3 (34:00-44:00), Tim outlines a few famous stories in Acts, like Phillip and the Ethiopian Eunuch and Paul visiting Antioch. Antioch was a melting pot city, a kind of San Fransisco of the ancient world. While Jerusalem was the symbolic center of Christianity, Antioch became the hub from which the first missionary journeys were launched. In part 4 (44:00-end), Tim explains that fundamentally Christianity is an ancient eastern, multiethnic religious movement. This is unique among other world religions. Christianity is the largest multiethnic religious movement in history. The guys discuss how this places Christians in a unique position in their respective cultures. Thank you to all our supporters! Resources: Rodney Stark: Cities of God. Eckhard J. Schnabel, Acts, Zondervan Exegetical Commentary on the New Testament Alan Thompson, The Acts of the Risen Lord Jesus, Kavin Rowe, World Upside-Down: Reading Acts in a Graeco-Roman Age Christopher Nolan: Dunkirk (The Movie) Produced By: Dan Gummel. Jon Collins. Matthew Halbert-Howen Show Music: Defender Instrumental: Rosasharn Music Reveur: Pyrus Lights: Sapphiros Ehrling: Typhoon

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Starting point is 00:00:40 This is John at the Bible Project. Today, on the show, we're going gonna continue our conversation on the Book of Acts. These conversations are gonna turn into a four-part animated series covering the story of the Book of Acts. Reading Acts kind of reminds you of a movie script. Their shipwrecks inspired speeches, heartwarming reunions, and bitter arguments. And one of the main themes of these arguments,
Starting point is 00:01:05 the inclusion of Gentiles into the Jesus movement, and on what terms is hands down the most controversial issue, rocking the whole New Testament. For most of us today, we think of Christianity as a global movement, but it wasn't always that way. It started as a small Jewish messianic sect. Really just a handful of Jewish people sitting around in a tiny room in Jerusalem trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:01:32 how they were going to restore the kingdom of God to Israel. This was a Jewish faith based on the Jewish scriptures built around a Jewish man but they were about to experience a twist. The story of Israel wasn't just about Israel. The way of Jesus wasn't just for them, but as the story develops, Luke really wants to show actually the Jewish Jesus movement is in continuity with the deepest roots of Israel's story and Israel's scriptures. This movement is still alive, and it started with stories like the one found in the book of Acts.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Because Luke's trying to show that the Christian movement is inherently a destabilizing movement into whatever culture it enters, not by proposing a new system of beliefs, but by a group of people creating an alternative culture. So today, Jesus in the start of global Christianity. Thanks for joining us. Here we go. We're talking about the book of Acts. We're talking about Acts. Acts of the Apostles. Yep. Or Acts of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Ah, the Acts of Jesus and the Spirit. Better so called. That's right. Ah, I have a frog residing in my throat today. Yeah. So don't mind that. You usually don't. Your little horse.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Happens to me like once in winter. Really? And you're not sick. Your voice just kinda taps out. I mean, it's some kind of cold or something, but it doesn't make me feel bad. It's just my voice does this for a few days. Every winter.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Portland man. Portland just beats up her throat. Yeah, anyway. Yeah, we are making an ax trilogy. The ax trilogy. Yep. The second part of that trilogy is going to cover the central section of the book, which
Starting point is 00:03:24 goes from the murder of Stephen, which Saul, Saul of Tarsis, will become Paul. So we ended with him, looming over the dead and the bloody corpse of Stephen. And then it's going to end with Acts chapter 8. It's going to end with Acts 21, which is Paul, the same man who's going to get aboard a ship to go to Jerusalem to face what he thinks might be a similar fate as Stevens in Jerusalem. And in between those two events, the Jesus movement has gone from a small, persecuted Jewish messianic sect in Jerusalem to a multi-ethnic international movement across the Roman world. Oh, well, even in the first section, it's kind of multicultural Jewish.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Oh, well, yeah, it's Jews from all over the world who've gone to Jerusalem. Okay. Here in the center of the book, from Paul standing over Steven's bot dead body to Paul going to Jerusalem, where he thinks he's going to die. It's going to go outside of the Jewish community. The thing explodes outside the ethnic boundary lines of Israel. And that's the main burden of this section of the book is we end in Jerusalem. We're going gonna end this video looking back towards Jerusalem, but the movement has fundamentally transformed itself. If I were a Jewish reader, this section would probably feel really
Starting point is 00:04:55 surprising and uncomfortable. Ah well, I think it depends on what group within Judaism you are a part of. Judaism was as diverse as Christianity is today across the world. You think so? Oh yeah, as diverse. Yeah, especially in the second temple period, extremely diverse. Yeah. Yeah. What became the mainstream form of Judaism after the destruction of Jerusalem and 70 AD, that was just what survived and became the mainstream was just one stream of Judaism in Jesus' time period, it was a much more diverse movement. In my imagination, there was just two sex, the Pharisees and the Sajji Sis. Oh sure.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Right, they're the ones that are talked about. Yeah, yep. Yeah, because they're the main influencers in Jerusalem and Judea, which is where the Jesus story comes to its showdown, you know, and so they figure in the gospel. But they're two of just of many. Yeah, the dead, the community that produced the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Kumran community, they were most likely a group that Josephus, a Jewish historian called the Essines, and
Starting point is 00:06:16 they separated, they would self-identify as not Pharisees, definitely not Sadducees. But they were contemporaries. Contemporaries? Yep. There's the movement, a broad movement of resistance against Rome, the anti-Rome crew. The zealots. The one arm of which became known as the zealots. We'll talk about other zealots in this conversation. Because Paul viewed himself as a salad.
Starting point is 00:06:49 And then you just have all of the Jews around the world who are living in different countries. Living in different countries, yeah, totally. Because Judaism pre-70 AD was a temple Jerusalem-centered religion, many people living out in what was called the diaspora, just had varying degrees of commitment, and varying degrees of assimilation to their surrounding culture and Greece or Macedonia.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Just like today, both in Jewish and Christian traditions you have your nominal believers. Yeah, real firm believers. So some of them would say we need to go to Jerusalem every year. Yep, yeah, for would. And the would. And the would. Yeah, others who are like, yeah, I've got a Mezzah's a little prayer scroll on my door.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Yeah. And feast are really more about what's in my heart. Yeah, that's right. And maybe sometimes I'll have a ham sandwich with my Greek neighbors because it does taste good after all. So just the whole spectrum, you can imagine. And actually that spectrum is going to be really important because they didn't need sandwiches back then.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Yes, that was my. Wink wink. Retrojecting. Retrojecting. Yeah, the book of Acts is going, Luke is going to love giving us brief portraits of all of these different kinds of people, Jew and non-Jew, who fall in love with Jesus and become a part of the Jesus movement. Many of them are Jewish and Jews of all kinds, who were living out in different parts of the Roman Empire. That's one of the things Luke's
Starting point is 00:08:16 has done as he tells the story of the spreading of the movement. Each leg of the movement spreading, he includes these short little stories about all the different kinds of people. He just gives them a few sentences about Alidia or a guy named Christmas or Tabitha or just all these people who become a part of the church. It's really neat. So this, this Jewish sect is just one of now dozens. Right, in this period, the Jesus movement is one messianic movement of others. There were other messianic movements, meaning a movement that were a key leader
Starting point is 00:08:55 or prophet, figure claiming to be representative of the hope from the line of David. So there were many different types of Judaism, all in Jerusalem and then all over the diaspora. Yes. And then there were specific ones that were messianic and that they would come around a key figure. And this is a form of Judaism that happened to be messianic
Starting point is 00:09:20 around Jesus. Yep. Yeah, they're called the Nazarens, they call themselves the Way. And actually, in the section of the Book of Acts, the word Christian is going to appear for the first time in history. It's in the city of Antioch, the Christ ones, which means Messiah. The Messiah ones are called Messianics. Messianics. Messianics.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Or Christianos, which means the anointedointed ones who follow the anointed one. Cool. Yeah, there you go. So that's what the section is about. And in the framework of Jesus' announcement at the beginning of the book, remember from Jerusalem, he said, the mess that you'll be my witnesses here in Jerusalem, first rang, then the next rang, Judea and Samaria, and then outer rang to the ends of the earth. And Judea and Samaria, and then outer ring to the ends of the year. And Judea and Samaria are like the outskirts of the light territories, right? Yeah, if Jerusalem's a city, Judea and Samaria would be like the states or counties to use American terminology.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Yeah. And then- The boundary lines of their ethnic territory. So actually, in this video, we're gonna cover two movements. The whole of the Judea and Samaria section is Acts 8 through 12. Okay. And then in Acts 13, Paul and Barnabas are sent out into the first of three missionary journeys throughout the West Roman world, the west of Jerusalem. And
Starting point is 00:10:45 there's three missionary journeys and our job is to summarize the essence of those journeys and what happened. So we're gonna look at all three of those as well. Yeah, yeah, at least the key themes that Luke develops in the missionary journeys. So X eight through 20 is what we're gonna do in X Part 2. All right, it's a lot of territory to cover. Yeah, it is, and our goal, again, in the videos, isn't to tell every story. It's included dozens and dozens of episodes. But as this usual and biblical narrative, he's given us clues as to the key themes,
Starting point is 00:11:20 because of the same words, keep repeating the same themes, the same types of stories repeating the same themes, the same types of stories keep coming over and over. So there's really just about half a dozen of themes that he's trying to communicate. So, the first movement out of Jerusalem is the Judea and Samaria section of Acts and Luke's really wrapped us up with a nice literary architecture. He gives you an introduction, he gives you a series of episodes, he gives you a transition summary about halfway through. Some more episodes, then he gives you a concluding summary.
Starting point is 00:12:22 It's just really nice, He's wrapped it pretty tight. So, introduction is in chapter 8 verse 1 where he says, a great persecution came against the church. In Jerusalem, it's where the first part of the book took place. This is after Stephen just gets killed. He gets rocked. And so now this is like, they're going after everyone. Well, yeah, the execution of Stephen becomes like thematic of a whole wave of opposition now to come in the people that represent.
Starting point is 00:12:55 That's right. In Jerusalem. In Jerusalem. Which is where this has been home-based. Yeah, that's it. And then it's only existed in Jerusalem. That's right. Well then Luke says, and everyone scattered into Judea and Samaria
Starting point is 00:13:07 Yeah, except the apostles so even just those words there Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria you can view this Narrative moment as a tragedy. Yeah, all death murder Scattering but those same words are precisely The itinerary that Jesus directed. And so it's interesting statement where by itself this sentence is a tragedy. But in the framework of the larger book, it's also you can see divine providence. Yeah, if the persecution hadn't happened, then they just would have been content just to hang out in Jerusalem. Apparently, potentially.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Yeah, the persecution becomes the means by which the disciples now are going outside. And so these disciples, it's not the apostles, they say put, but basically all of these ethnic, multi-ethnic Jewish people from all over, would you assume they're going back to their home lands? No, because they're going to Judea and Samaria. It's just what he says, into Judea and Samaria.
Starting point is 00:14:08 And then he's just going to give us the snapshot portraits of things that start happening. Cool. In the chart here, you can see Luke's literary strategy. He has three narratives about Paul that he's interwoven with a series of narratives about Peter or other apostles going out. And so the three narratives about Paul, if you were to just take them out and stick them all together, it would be Paul standing over Steven's dead body. Paul trying to get more Christians arrested. He's going up to Damascus in chapter 9, Jesus rocks his world, it appears to him in chapter 9.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Paul gets rocked. Paul gets rocked, metaphorically. And then he realizes that Jesus, people that he's been persecuting, this Jesus actually is the Messiah. He has a full conversion of his mind and heart about Jesus of Nazareth. And then he immediately starts promoting Jesus everywhere he goes, and people are freaking out. Then in chapter 11, there's a story about Paul and Barnabas who go to what's becoming
Starting point is 00:15:13 the largest, most influential church in that part of the empire. Barnabas is just a Jewish follower of Jesus who's awesome. Yeah. So you have three stories about Paul, but instead of telling them all together, he's broken them up into three sections. Yeah. And interwoven them with stories about Peter and other disciples going out into Judea and Samaria. Now, sorry, this is really a nitpicky, but the introduction says that the apostles don't leave and then the stories are actually leaving. Yes, well, a Peter. A Peter in particular. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:48 So there's the three stories about Paul. The three other stories are first about a guy named Philip who goes into Samaria. And he starts announcing the good news about Jesus and the kingdom of God. And Samaria was full of ancient enemies, like half related to Israelites. And so many of them start following Jesus that Peter sent by the apostles to be like, okay, go check this out.
Starting point is 00:16:16 These were like, not our friends. Yeah, but now they're following Jesus. They're following Jesus and we should go see what the deal is. And then Peter comes and he's like, oh my gosh. The same thing that's happened in Jerusalem. It's happening here. It's a spirit coming to empower people and lead people to Jesus.
Starting point is 00:16:34 It's what's happening here. And that becomes a slow in the section. It's Peter waking up to the fact that God has his eye on the whole of the human race to redeem them and make them new humans, not just the ethnic covenant people of Israel. So it's a beautiful literary strategy. It's really cool here. He has a whole bunch of material for this period of this really just a few years, but what he's done is he's interwoven the story of Paul, because he's going to become the main representative disciple to the nation. But at the same time he wants to show the organic connection between Paul's mission.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And what the apostles were doing and waking up to. And so this section becomes really a Peter and Paul. It's a great narrative technique. What's a movie or show that does this? Where there's two main characters, and their stories will eventually meet in some way, but they don't know about each other. And you're flashing back from one scene to the next
Starting point is 00:17:40 between them. Do you watch a Dunkirk? Oh yes, oh great example. But that one it messes with time a lot to oh Yeah, I mean that's fine. It still works. Yeah. Yes three different watching three stories different lines It completely oh they all converge at some moment in the story. Yeah one and one plot line happens over the course of like a week What happens the course of a yes? Day and one happens in the course of like an hour. But then they all climax together.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Yes, what is, it's the guys on the boat, the guys on the shore, soldiers on the shore, and then the... The Air Force pilot. Yeah, yeah, that's a great example. Yeah. And each one of them is about, has a story of courage and of cowardice. Yeah. But at different moments. Yeah, that's great of courage and of cowardice. Yeah. But at different moments. Yeah, that's great.
Starting point is 00:18:28 That's a great analogy. Yeah. That's what Luke's doing with the... He's splicing these two stories. Licing the Paul stories in with the Peter and other stories. Because Peter and Paul, they may have ran into each other at some point, but... For sure, did. Yes, and they will in this section.
Starting point is 00:18:45 And they will in this section. Yep. But yeah, okay, cool. Yeah. And each one is waking up to the reality of the risen Jesus. And the story of Israel wasn't just about Israel. It was about the family of Abraham becoming a family of all nations. So the divine blessing and the new humanity
Starting point is 00:19:05 can encompass all humanity. And so that's what they're both waking up to, simultaneously, but unbeknownst to each other. Yeah, it's a neat effect. So I think in the video, we can do something cool here. Where it'll be these snippets from the Paul story. Right. And these snippets, like Paul has a vision.
Starting point is 00:19:24 They're both having a conversion of sorts. They both have visions. Paul has a vision and he sees and talks to the risen Jesus. Peter has the vision on the roof. The weird, tarp thing. About these ritually impure animals from Leviticus are declared pure. And then he goes into the house of a Gentile of a Roman soldier who wants to know about Jesus. So two unlikely people end up giving their allegiance to Jesus, Paul and the Roman Citrion,
Starting point is 00:19:54 both enemies and figures. You know, it's hard for me to get to the mental space where that is scandalous or that is really crazy for them, for Peter to have that vision and to hang out in a Roman style. Like to me, it's just kind of like, I, it's kind of expected at this point. Yes. Versus like, whoa, what is happening?
Starting point is 00:20:17 Yeah. That's what I'm saying. If you're a Jewish reader, this might feel really disturbing, not, are just really unexpected. unexpected, and taking you back. On orthodox. On orthodox. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Against everything you grew up caring about, it was very important for you to keep a kosher diet because it was a central part of your identity as this people. Yeah, a cultural symbol, a public cultural symbol of your unique identity. And not only that God told you, this is how you should eat.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right. Same with, yeah, there were three, I mean, they come, they're gonna all come into play here and acts and then especially in the rest of the New Testament where the kosher food laws, male circumcision, which in Greek and Roman cities, there's just men who are a lot more naked.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And like the Roman in the back houses and the gymnasiums, public centers. Yeah, they don't have as many like stalls that they don't change. Yeah, so it would be like be like there were as many of these venues as there are like gyms in a, you know, probably a Yeah, American or European city. Yeah, except they were male only and Ultimate or naked all the time. Mm-hmm. And so circumcision was a very public like very clear. It's very clear
Starting point is 00:21:42 The Kim Sijin was a very public, like, very clear. It's very clear who's Jewish in this neighborhood, because they'll stick out at gymnasium or at the bathhouse. And then Sabbath, because Romans, unless you were part of the elite or wealthy, they didn't have like weekends. Yeah, you have to just keep working. You just work.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Yeah, I've become this stop working. Yeah, so the Jewish practice of Sabbath was extremely countercultural. Countercultural. Jews reviewed as lazy or seditious. Seditious. Like, just undermining the Roman work ethic and undermining the foundation of the empire, which is hard work.
Starting point is 00:22:22 If you're a Jewish and you're a slave and you're asking your master for they have rest like that. That kind of thing. Right. So these were... Do you think you are? Yeah. So and in this time period in Acts, man, just 150 years ago in Jerusalem, the whole thing with the Maccabees went down and there was that Syrian king and Tiaqas. He made it illegal to be Jewish in Jerusalem for three years. And then the Maccabees had their uprising and revolt. And so we now have ancestors that have bled and died for the kosher laws.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Yeah, so you cabith. And so this is a really potent cultural symbols and There each going to be relativized yeah in this messianic Jesus movement And that's the paradox that's what Peter is beginning to wake up to in his vision Do we have any parallels like things that if you told me or if I told you hey this is not important anymore You would just get pretty Surely yeah, yeah, we just need to take a few minutes and brainstorm. There's like price silly examples Yeah, I sit here's a silly example
Starting point is 00:23:39 Okay, but it was a big deal to me as a 15 year old So when I started skateboarding in the late 80s, this was still totally the California coast scene dominated the culture of skateboarding, Santa Cruz, Venice Beach, Malibu, all this kind of thing. But then in the early 90s, the center of gravity in skateboard culture shifted to San Francisco. There was a whole new wave of skateboarders, a whole new kind of
Starting point is 00:24:06 skateboarding. So we got more technical in street. Yeah, we got more technical and for some reason. I think it was the rave subculture. It was early 90s. So the ravers, we called them ravers in that school, which is like a drug dance party scene. But something about raves, rave or style clothing, which was just unbelievably gigantic pants. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I made a couple more people in here. Yeah, I was 15 wearing size 40 waist pants with this belt that like there was so much excess on the belt it hung down almost to my knee. And this was all the skateboarders were wearing
Starting point is 00:24:51 in San Francisco who were part of this new movement in skateboarding. And so that's in the videos that's all they're wearing. I go to the skate shop here in Portland. That's what everyone's wearing. It's what everyone's wearing. And so for most of high school, I wore these gigantic pants.
Starting point is 00:25:06 It was so, yeah. It was so irrational. It was so irrational. Yeah. We didn't think of it as irrational, but like the pant legs were so huge, they would wave around while you were skating.
Starting point is 00:25:18 I'm like, Oh, so is it practical? Yeah, it's like, it caught in your wheels. Yeah. But it was like, that's fine. We just thought it was cool.
Starting point is 00:25:25 So I still remember I was junior year in high school. I had a friend Sam, Sam Challey, who came to school. He's a really good skateboarder. He was a part of our crew. And he came wearing normal pants. You wore normal pants. And he was like, yeah, you know, it's, and it was part of this, the next wave, whatever,
Starting point is 00:25:46 you know, this was now mid-90s. This is just my own life experience, makes this meaningful. He won't be meaningful to anybody else. But I remember, it was, I was just like, Who do you think you are? He's betrayed us. He's betrayed us. He's like, he's violated the code.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Yeah. Which is like, what, dressing like a normal person. Right. Yeah, so whatever, that kind of example could be multiplied Sure, it's just human subcultures. We get together and we create these Rules so for rules and code now add on top of that Generation after generation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, century every century of the same correct kids wearing size 50 waist pants. In fact, in their story, God told them that to like that, I shall wear large baggy pants. And then the guy comes and wears this
Starting point is 00:26:35 normal pants. So my example is actually trivializing. No, but it's like an American fashion trend, and they come and go like every two years. So so yeah, so yeah, do your experiment with it, which is put it in the Bible in your culture's Bible and give it centuries of history. Centuries of history. So from America, because America's so young on the help side as much, we do have things. But there are, yeah, there are gun rights. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Actually, here you go. That might be a good one.
Starting point is 00:27:08 That's a great example. Yeah. So here's something. And many people that a certain right, practice, right, gun rights, is tied into the roots of our culture, into a constitutional right, is where people will connect it to. And they'll therefore connect that to a divine right, to liberty and self-protection and private property. Yeah, being in the Constitution,
Starting point is 00:27:31 or an amendment of the Constitution, is like God having to set it in America. Sure, yeah, that's right. And then it can get joined into, it becomes so interwoven into a religious culture, the form of Christianity with this practice, they're inextricable now. It's like Jesus, God, gun rights, America, it's all one thing.
Starting point is 00:27:55 And I'm not making a judgment one way or another about that particular example. I'm just saying, it's an example of, there's nothing about gun rights in the Bible. Right. But certain passages in the Bible about liberty or about the dangers of the monarchy or something. You got appealed to in the dangers of the Israelite monarchy, like Samuel's speech, and for Samuel 12. What's that? Oh, it's where he talks about all that kings do, is take your property. Oh, right, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Oh, yeah, the founding fathers were in that speech. It's really interesting.
Starting point is 00:28:26 People have done studies on this. So the founding fathers interest in First Samuel chapter 12. Oh, really? Totally, yeah. It totally does, because it's in the Bible. It's the suspicion about if they build a couple of critiques of monarchy.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Yeah. And so that gets joined to all kinds of other stuff. So there you go. So the moment you go to Idaho, or some part of the country where that's just the norm, and you start saying, you know, the Jesus movement actually takes a totally different posture towards violence or weapons.
Starting point is 00:29:02 And it's like you're both attacking the foundation of a religious culture, but of the culture itself. That's kind of scandal that Jesus' movement represented when Paul and Peter started. You know what integrating non-Jews and Zs is? No, non-Jews and Zs is. I've been learning a little bit about the Quaker tradition, and many Quaker traditions they don't take sacraments, they don't baptize, and they don't take the Lord's Supper, because for them it's more of an internal reality. And that's pretty close to home for tradition, and I'm not trying to say whether or not
Starting point is 00:29:43 that's legit or whatever, but we were told by Jesus to do this thing, right? It seems to be the case. Yeah. And so for a group to come along and say, actually, no, you don't have to do it. That seems very similar to like, oh, you don't have to follow these food laws.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And I don't know, that's my not. And I always want to make an example. Yeah, I think the difference, at least what for what the apostles are doing, is that they very much are appealing to their common scriptures for the precedent of this, for the full inclusion of non-Jews without having to take on these cultural symbols, they're going to appeal to the Bible to see, like, oh, well, this is actually what was supposed to happen all along.
Starting point is 00:30:33 So we'll talk about that. That comes to a head in the missionary journeys later, but the seeds of that are being sewn right here. It seems like at first God's doing it about face. I told you to do this. Now, I'm telling you to do this. It does seem that way. But as the story develops, Luke really wants to show actually the Jewish Jesus movement is in continuity with the deepest roots of Israel's story and Israel's scriptures. That's a big deal. Yeah. That God's not just changing his mind. He's actually fulfilling something that, you know, in the Apostles' view has simply been forgotten or rejected. It's also important to
Starting point is 00:31:12 probably realize, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, the kosher laws that were observed weren't like strictly taken from the mosaic law. They were developed. Oh sure. It becomes something even more. Yeah. Their centuries old and they have developed into all kinds of more clarifying rules. Yeah. Yeah. And those are embodied, were collected later a couple of hundred years later, but they preserve all these old, earlier clarifications in the mission, what's called the mission and the Talmud. Yeah. Yeah. If you take almost any example, I don't even know if I want to do it because it will make us uncomfortable and people listening uncomfortable. But like, things that become so central to your faith, when we talk about guns,
Starting point is 00:32:08 so some people are already uncomfortable. But you take a bunch of other things, and then you talk about God coming and giving a vision of like actually no, like this is fine now. Yes. Like that's very uncomfortable, especially in the spiritual tradition I grew up in. Like if someone came and said like hey, by the way now women can preach or now different
Starting point is 00:32:31 things you'd be like, WHAA stop, like what's happening? And I'm not trying to create parallels to anything, I'm just trying to get my mind to go around the shock. The shock factor of Peter having this vision. Yeah, it seems to some people out of sync with the whole story or like you're breaking what this thing has been about, but then at the same time Peter and the apostles are going to go back even further into Israel's story before to back to Abraham and say, this is what the calling of Abraham was always about to bring divine blessing to all the nations.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Abraham is actually called a father of nations, plural in Genesis 17. In Genesis 17, which is the chapter about circumcision. So yes, I want to honor your point because it's a good one, the shock factor. And the inclusion of Gentiles into the Jesus movement, and on what terms is the hands-down, the most controversial issue rocking the whole New Testament. It's the central debate driving most of the New Testament documents, certainly Paul's letters and the book of Acts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:46 And the developments of it are seen in Peter's letters. It was huge. Yeah, it was interesting. The Gentile Jew divide isn't the... It's like the subtext almost behind every issue. Yeah, that's right. In the New Testament. In the New Testament.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And then once the church became majority, non-Jewish, it just wasn't an issue anymore. It's so this is why. But then you still have these letters. All these documents. Documents, that was the issue. That was there. And then you kind of, I mean, I grew up reading these documents
Starting point is 00:34:17 and I didn't see those as the main issue. Yeah, that's right. Like I remember the first time someone pointed that out to me with Ephesians and I was like, oh, yeah, it's what the whole thing's about. It's what the whole thing's about. Yeah, it's the joining of Jew and Gentile. Yeah, it's never, never saw that. Yeah, that's right. 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1%, 1 %, 1%, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, So this first movement is the Judea Samaria movement. It's Paul, Peter, bouncing back and forth. Each one of whom is having a radical vision encounter blows their minds and is going to lead into the next
Starting point is 00:35:29 major movement of the book which is to the ends of the earth and all humans Discovering Jesus, but they're really specific vignettes the stories blocking for the yeah blocking for the videos It's about choosing the right stories to make emblems so the Simon and the Sorcerer story in Chapter 8, is that the one where the Sorcerer's like, hey, can I have these powers too? And he's like, not for sale. Yeah. He prays like a curse on him and he goes blind. And then the Ethiopian, Unic, that's the guy that's reading the...
Starting point is 00:36:00 It's pure legit. Yeah, so Philip goes to Samaria, all kinds of people are following Jesus. Peter goes to check it out to make sure it's legitimate. And he's blown away, he's like, oh my gosh. What happened to Pentecost and Jerusalem's happened here? And that's where he has a run-in with Simon Sorcerer. And then there's a story of Philip being prompted by the spirit to go up to this chariot This royal chariot mm-hmm. Let's cruising down the road. Okay, and what would that have looked like? It would have been a
Starting point is 00:36:33 Like some horses pulling just one. Yeah, I guess so what comes in my mind is like medieval. Yeah, right? Carriages. Yeah, sure it doesn't look like it's a good point. I am not up to speed on my ancient carriages. We may have to visualize that. Yeah, it's a good point. And he looks inside and he sees a royal attendant of the Queen of Ethiopia, Candace. He's called the Ethiopian unit. But we should really think it's like a state official.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Right. A whole point is he's a diplomat. A dreamly, he has diplomat, extremely important, individual. And he's sitting in there listening to Isaiah scroll, be read to him. Yeah. And he's like, oh, Philip says, hey, hello, and they have this conversation about Isaiah 53. Yeah. And the guy is like, holy cow, Jesus is the suffering servant king.
Starting point is 00:37:26 I wanna join this people right now. That's a good example. Luke, it's like it's a brief little portrait. It's just a paragraph, the story. And you're like, why is Luke, it's cool, but why is Luke concluding this? And it's- He's an outsider.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Yeah, this is his strategy of he'll paint the scene between the leaders of a church about the growing movement. And then he'll just pepper the stories with the short little vignettes of all these different kinds of people who are coming to acknowledge Jesus as the new human and as their redeemer. So there's that. That's a pretty epic story. There's Peter's vision and then going to Cornelius House. That's, I think, pretty mission critical. And then after that, we get a transition to Paul. There's a guy we're introduced to Barnabas.
Starting point is 00:38:16 And then he goes and gets the newly converted Paul and they go to the city of Antioch, which was the biggest city in that part of the world. It was the third most popular city in the Roman Empire. Antioch. And where was it? Well, it's right up on the right where the coast of the Mediterranean goes from being vertical north-south and turns.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Turn the bend. Yeah, so it's a monodate turkey. The modern city of Turkey, right near it, is called on Takia. It's the same word. So it's southern Turkey, right near the Syrian turkey border. It's like half a million people, just within like the city, limit proper. It's second only to Rome and I think Alexandria.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I mean, gigantic city. Yeah. And so that's, so it's Jerusalem focused. It goes in outside of Jerusalem and then Antioch becomes the base for Paul and Barnabas. And this is the first multi-ethnic international Jesus community in history. What would have been the main like a hair ethnicity in Antioch at that time? Oh, it's a port city. For all indications that we have, I could do a little more homework on this.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Just got a Rodney Stark who's written a lot on the early Christian urban movement and the makeup of these cities. Oh, that'd be good. I should go, we look at that again. He wrote a book called Cities of God on the topic. I'm pretty, from what I remember, this was a number of years ago,
Starting point is 00:39:44 these are truly melting pot. a number of years ago, these are truly melting pot. These handful of major cities, Roman and the Roman Empire, they were all on the coasts. So they were major trade harbours, all the highways intersected, so melting pot. So you got Greeks, Macedonians, Jews, Arabs, Eastern Europeans. It was founded near the end of the fourth century by one of Alexander the Great's generals. So I mean, it's not that old of a town. Well, it's 400 years old. Well, 300 years old.
Starting point is 00:40:16 It's Jerusalem. Yeah, that's right, okay, yeah, got it. Yeah, that's old. Sure, but it's Alexander the Great. Yeah, part of the Greek and Roman legacy. It is general being it. Alexander the Great. Yeah, part of the Greek. Alexander the Great. The Greek and Roman legacy. Yeah. Is general being it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:27 So it was like a geographically, it was a military and economic location. For the spice trade, silk road. It rivaled Alexandria as a chief city in the Near East. It was also the main center of Hellenistic Judaism. Yeah. So there was a lot of Greek Jews there. Hellenistic meaning, culture. Hellenistic meaning culture. Greek language and culture.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Yeah, so Hellenism was essentially, it's the equivalent of what Western culture is through TV and media throughout the world. It's clothing, lifestyle, economic preferences. So at the end of the second temple period, it became where the Hellenistic Judaism was its epicenter. Most of the urban development in Antioch was done during the Roman Empire. So it's a very Roman Empire city.
Starting point is 00:41:17 I was wondering if it had another heritage like it was another people group. Oh, I understand. Yeah, got it. It's like San Francisco of the Mediterranean. Yeah, right. Yeah. Something like that. It's this melting pot. Yeah. Trade harbor. Yeah, goes back to early American history in that part of the world, you know, in the Bay Area, or in that part of the country, the upper Mediterranean. It goes back to the early roots of the Greek and Roman empires. So it was from this city and church community that was launched the first international
Starting point is 00:41:56 missionaries and Luke, as he's trying to show the nature of what Jesus and this spirit were up to in this next phase. He just focuses in on, it's the Holy Spirit who leads the disciples and anti-octas, start sending out missionaries. That's how he tells the story in Acts chapter 13. And so Barnabas and Paul become the focus after that. Peter disappears almost entirely from the storyline. So he's really key in the transition. He was key in the Jerusalem part. And he stays in Jerusalem, right? He's key in this.
Starting point is 00:42:33 And then he will we leave him because he went up to Samaria. Yeah. And then that's where he's left. That's where the narrative leaves him. And later church tradition has him traveling all over. Oh. And when he writes first Peter, he's writing to communities all in the area of modern Turkey, Asia Minor, same area where Paul writes his letters. But there's no New Testament apostolic record of his travels. It's interesting. It's interesting.
Starting point is 00:43:01 So it's also interesting that it wasn't Jerusalem that becomes the epicenter of Christianity. Right. It becomes Antioch. Yes. Mm-hmm. Which... And Jerusalem remains a symbolic type of center as an origin point. And most of the apostles are still there.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Yep. That's right. The Jerusalem. The Jerusalem. That's right. The trees are there. Yeah, that's right. In the next movement of the book, once lots of non-Jews are coming to follow Jesus, then they have to settle this question about the circumcision and food laws and so on. And so they don't have a leadership meeting in Antioch. They have a leadership meeting in Jerusalem. Right. And of course, and G.S.'s brother, James presides.
Starting point is 00:43:46 He's running the show there. He's the key leader there. No, not Peter. Peter's there at the meeting, but the narrative is very clear that James, G.S.'s brother has been appointed as the leader, James the Chest, or James the Righteous. He's called the Righteous One. So yeah, there's so much, so much Luke doesn't tell us about those early decades. And that it's again, it's another, it's just like Old Testament narrative. They're actually, he's offering a, not just history, he's offering a theological narrative
Starting point is 00:44:19 about the meaning of those early decades. And so he's super selective. And the moment Paul goes up to Antioch and the International Mission starts, that's all he cares about. He just focuses on that. Maybe one of this will fit more into the atmosphere of the video, but I think personally this has become more and more significant as the years go by that the birth of the Christian movement movement to Jewish Messianic movement was from its very early years a multi-ethnic reality. It's a multi-ethnic eastern religious movement, which if you ask anybody in Western culture today what they think about Christianity, it's so embedded now with the history of Western culture. The people assume that, you know, it's bound to one political, one demographic, or it's
Starting point is 00:45:51 so associated with Western institutions. Yeah. And so for me, this was just so refreshing and mind-opening to see that this is an ancient eastern religious movement that was multi-ethnic from its origins. And when you say that, you mean by the fact that even all of the initial Jewish followers of Jesus were from all different ethnicities? Yeah, all different.
Starting point is 00:46:16 That's right. All different culture backgrounds because of the exo-Ilandiaaspera. Yeah. But then what Luke's trying to tell us and acts is that we're not a decade into the movement Yeah, and the thing is by nature. It's busting I mean it's bust out of that one cultural mold
Starting point is 00:46:34 into the larger human family. Yeah, and because that's not typical of Religious systems. That's correct religious systems are usually to create cohesion within one, you know, people group. Yeah. Yeah. Not all of a sudden break down all these boundaries between people groups. Yeah. That's right. So, so Axe is giving us, like the genetic code of a movement that will become the most culturally, ethnically diverse, religious movement in human history. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:06 The Church of Jesus Christ. And that's still true today, the majority of the world's Christians in 2018. Don't live in Western America or Europe. Yeah. Fast majority. And so, that's still true today, but for the, you know, the middle-aged period, an early modern period. It was primarily Western. Primarily being carried through the power structures and institutions of Europe and America.
Starting point is 00:47:33 So it's just this fascinating shift in the modern era that actually makes it much more like it was in those early centuries. That's interesting. It's like that original DNA that you're talking about was not lost, but it was a bit buried for a while when it became a very political, when it became part of the power structure in Western civilization. Yes. Yeah, it's just what happens when the Christian movement gets too closely wedded or identified with one particular culture. Just not meant to do that.
Starting point is 00:48:09 It's not that kind of religious movement. A people make it into that. We all do. Exactly. Our greatest temptation is to turn it into something that's just like me. And to protect what I know to be life, you know, my way of life. Yeah, that's right. My protect what works, what then if it can work towards that end, then, yeah, then I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Yeah, and actually that's a great segue. We might want to talk more. I don't know if you want to talk more about how we want to block out the video for that part of this part. The book of Acts. But as we move on into Acts 13 and forward, there's one scholar of Acts in particular who just, oh man, I've just tried to read everything I can get my hands on by him about the book of Acts. His name is Kevin Row. And he's done the best job of any Acts scholar I know to capture the destabilizing, disorienting nature of the
Starting point is 00:49:06 Jesus movement in the early Roman world. And what Luke's doing, he's already shown us the way that it was a Jewish movement, but was also rejected by many of the leaders of the power systems in Jerusalem. That's why kept getting persecuted and people are not. That's why Stephen is murdered. That's why kept getting persecuted. People are not. Well, that's why Stephen is murdered. That's why Paul is persecuting. But then, so he has that on the, that front, the Jewish front.
Starting point is 00:49:33 And then on the other front, he's loose going to start tracing the same culture clash with the Greek and Roman world. And so most of the narratives to follow in the book of Acts are about Paul going to places announcing the Christian message that Jesus is king and of being persecuted and rejected. Yeah. And riots. It's just riot after riot after mob after riot. This is whole section of the book of Acts once we leave Antioch. Yeah, so you have to stop and ask yourself, what's Luke trying to do here?
Starting point is 00:50:07 He's trying to say, and this guy, Kevin Rowe, all of some quotes, we can walk through that section of the book, but he's trying to say, Luke's trying to show that the Christian movement is inherently a destabilizing movement into whatever culture it enters. Not by proposing a new system of beliefs, but by a group of people creating an alternative culture. The questions, the foundations of any and every culture. Because it's built on the conviction that Jesus is the true king of the human race. Yeah, and that's who and who sets culture especially in this time in the world. Yeah, it's the king.
Starting point is 00:50:48 It's one man. Isn't it with the Roman Empire, like that was very multicultural? So there was some similarities in that, like Hellenism, you know, like you said, it's like everyone started kind of acting the same way and became unifying in that way. Yeah, that's right So Christianity kind of fits that mold, which is hey the Roman Empire is breaking down all these cultural
Starting point is 00:51:15 Barriers in certain ways. Yeah, I see yes Yeah, Rome was offering a unified political religious cultural narrative Mm-hmm about human history. Yeah, and it culminates in the Roman Empire. Yeah, they're it. Really, I mean, once, and precisely in this first century, the Roman emperors knew the end of their lives and after their deaths are being announced as gods that they were embodiments of the divine pantheon in the flesh, if temples built to them.
Starting point is 00:51:47 So there are descriptions, there are like births, inscriptions about different Roman emperors that the gods have ordained their births, and they use the same vocabulary as the apostles. Good news, salvation, peace, redemption. Yeah, right. To describe the birth of a new Roman Empire. Yeah. And so, yeah, the Christian announcement would have just been heard as a very disruptive
Starting point is 00:52:13 as another empire. As a message. Yeah, an alternative kingdom, but that posed no military empire. An alternative empire that posed no military threat, but that posed a religious cultural threat. Yeah, it's so interesting. It is. Yeah. It's like you would know what to do with a bunch of people who said, let's build an army. Yeah, take over and this guy's gonna be our leader. Let's be a counter-empire. The
Starting point is 00:52:45 Roman Empire would be like, yeah, yeah, let's try and just kind of just stop you and you're like, yeah, they know how to deal with that. They know how to deal with that. Yeah, go kill them all. But you get a bunch of people who say, hey, we're happy to, you can, we'll be in the Roman Empire. Pay taxes. We'll pay taxes. We'll pray for the Empire as well being. Right? We'll follow the laws. Yeah. But, but you're not our true king. Yeah. And they're kind of like, what? Yeah, we believe there's another king.
Starting point is 00:53:12 That's in fact, that's precisely how people summarize Paul's message when he goes into Thessalonica. Yeah, he's pretty good. He's saying there's another emperor. Yeah. That's what they hear him say. And then when you kind of like start questioning him, you're like, oh, you're talking about a dead guy.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Like, okay. Yeah, totally. This isn't a threat. Yeah. Right? Yeah. If you're like a Roman official, you'd be like, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:38 So, yeah, we'll explore that more. And I think that, to me, that's an exciting part of the, I think the second main half of this video is, I'm excited to capture that ethos of the really Christian movement going out into the world. They're saying good news. There's a new king. It's the risen Jesus. And these communities that are being formed are so diverse. All the portraits, loot gives of these different people. And the poor being cared for, but man, there's a lot of angry people, particularly associated with politics, and religion, namely, people who preserve the worship of Roman gods. And that'll be the second main half of the video. Thanks for listening to this episode of the Bible Project Podcast. La segunda vez en la videota. more about what we're up to and all of our free resources. They're at thebibelproject.com. Hola, mi nombre es Adriana, y soy de Perú. Y también mi ciudad es Barcelona,
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