BibleProject - Elijah’s Contrasting Mountain Tests

Episode Date: December 16, 2024

The Mountain E8 — On two different mountains, we witness mountain tests with two very different Elijahs. On Mount Carmel, he partners with God in challenging the false prophets of Baal, leading to t...he people’s repentance and renewal of trust in God. But then only a chapter later, Elijah is on Mount Sinai accusing the people and loathing his prophetic calling. Why the sudden shift? In this episode, Jon and Tim discuss the contrasting mountain test stories of 1 Kings 18-19, reflecting on the human tendency toward fear, condemnation, and false narratives—even after great success.View more resources on our website →Timestamps Chapter 1: Recap of the Series So Far (0:00-9:53)Chapter 2: Elijah Tests the People on Mount Carmel (9:53-32:36)Chapter 3: Elijah Fails the Test on Mount Sinai (32:36-53:06)Official Episode TranscriptView this episode’s official transcript.Referenced ResourcesCheck out Tim’s library here.You can experience our entire library of resources in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Show Music“Surrender (Instrumental)” by Beautiful Eulogy“Movement” (artist unknown)BibleProject theme song by TENTSShow CreditsProduction of today's episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer. Frank Garza and Aaron Olsen edited today’s episode, and Aaron Olsen also provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.Powered and distributed by Simplecast.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Bible Project Podcast. We're continuing to trace the theme of the mountain through the story of the Bible. We've seen that mountains are an overlapping space of heaven and earth, where humans are asked to ascend. And when they do, they face a crisis. Will they surrender everything and trust in God's wisdom in order to gain what is truly life or will they cling to their own wisdom? In today's episode we talk about the story of Elijah. He's a prophet during the time of King Ahaz whose wife is Jezebel. During Elijah's time Israel has turned their allegiance to the God Baal and so Elijah calls a drought on the land and then he takes the people of Israel up on Mount Carmel
Starting point is 00:00:48 to force them into a decision. Who will they trust? The true God of all creation or this domesticated God of their own making? Elijah approached the people and he said, how long will you go limping after two opinions? If Yahweh is God, follow him. If Baal is God, go after Him.
Starting point is 00:01:08 It's a showdown. Yahweh versus Baal. Elijah calls on God and fire from heaven consumes the altar. The people repent and they renew their commitment to Yahweh. Rain falls. The king of Ahab throws a feast. It's a high note for Elijah's ministry. When the people saw it, they fell on their faces and said, Yahweh, He is God. This is a little Eden picture of God meeting His people with the gift of presence and rain and life on the mountain. And so it seems like things are going to go great from here, except they don't. Queen Jezebel threatens to kill Elijah, and instead of Elijah remaining bold, he flees into the wilderness and tells God he wants to die.
Starting point is 00:01:52 He goes to Mount Sinai, and he complains to God. He does the opposite of what Moses did in this very spot. He asks God to take his life, but not for the people, but for himself. He's accusing the people who just turned back to Yahweh. It's a portrait of how the same person can become that mediating mountaintop hero to reunite heaven and earth, yet that same person is capable within just a few choices of becoming completely unable to hear from God on the mountain. Today on the podcast, we'll talk about Elijah's two very different cosmic mountain experiences.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Thanks for joining us. Here we go. Hey, Tim. Hey, John. Good morning. Yeah, good morning. Hi. We're talking about the mountain? Mm-hmm. That's what we're doing, cosmic mountains, in fact. It's these places that are an in-between space. They're land, so it's where we go as humans.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Humans belong on the land. Humans belong on the land, but it's a part of the land that's elevated so high up towards the skies that the highest places of those peaks that we call mountains, they are described in the Bible as an in-between kind of space, often spaces where people encounter heaven on earth. The main mountain at the center of the show, there's two in the Hebrew Bible, Mount Sinai down in the deserts and then Mount Zion, like the Hill of Jerusalem. So these are places where heaven meets earth. So that's kind of the basic premise of mountains in the Bible, and the biblical authors take
Starting point is 00:03:29 that for granted. What the biblical authors do is they place key pivotal moments of the larger biblical story consistently take place on mountains. And this is kind of the unique biblical take on the cosmic mountain motif is that it's a place where humanity comes to terms with the presence of God in the ultimate reality of human nature and purpose and existence. It's on the Garden Mountain where humans are commissioned to rule as God's image and to spread God's order and generosity and goodness out into the land as God's partners.
Starting point is 00:04:10 But humans, you know, really don't trust God and act in really terrible ways as a result towards each other. But God wants to get people back up the mountain. And so isn't it interesting that in the stories of Abraham, a key covenant partner of God's, his whole journey of trusting God, failing and having to reckon with it all takes place on the journey between two mountains, the mountains connected to the tree of Moriah in Genesis 12 and then the mountain of Moriah that also has a tree on it in Genesis 22. The story of Mount Sinai, Israel is going to face a test of whether
Starting point is 00:04:45 they'll trust God as God's covenant partners. They blow that opportunity and because of what happens with the golden calf, Moses ascends the mountain and puts himself in the vulnerable place before God, even surrenders his life and identifies with these covenant violators of Israel down below. We looked at the story of David and of how David brought the Ark of God's mountain presence up to Jerusalem and he blows it himself with Bathsheba and then all the cascades out of that. And then the story of Samuel, the Samuel scroll ends with David facing a test on that same mountain that is also called the mountain of Moriah where Abraham had his test, where he both blows it through terrible choice that affects the people, but then in the last moment
Starting point is 00:05:38 he inserts himself and like Moses surrenders his life for his own sins on the mountain. And that's the place where the temple gets built, and that's the place where David's son is going to face his test. And at first, he responds well, he asks God to give him wisdom, but then he uses that wisdom to produce too much tove. And it corrupts, distorts his sense of right and wrong. So I'm interested in what the biblical authors want to highlight is that mountains are this place where the crisis, being on the mountain, forces you into a crisis of reckoning with who you are, what you define as good, what you think is life. And mountains
Starting point is 00:06:16 are typically places where God forces people to surrender what they think is life and the life they've created by their own wisdom and to surrender it only to discover that God wants to give them an even deeper, richer life and vocation, but it requires a kind of death, a death on the passageway up the mountain. And I think that's the motif that so fascinates me. And it's the motif that the biblical authors keep putting in front of us when it comes to these mountains. So, as we look at these stories of people journeying up the mountain, or having tests on the mountain, or next is a story about Elijah and his throwdown on the mountain, we're learning about what does it mean,
Starting point is 00:06:58 what does it take to be people who exist on the cosmic mountain. And when we look at David and Solomon, we're seeing tales of the crisis played out for us to get wisdom. We are mortal dirt creatures who have this impulse to be protective, to not trust, to not be generous, but we've been invited and placed in an environment, in an atmosphere where that's just not gonna work.
Starting point is 00:07:30 And the way to exist in this atmosphere is trust and generosity and abundance. And we've gotta learn how to exist in that atmosphere. And it feels like a death. It feels like to learn to live in that atmosphere is to lose so many parts of ourselves that feel vital. Yeah, yeah. But once you've done that, if you can do that,
Starting point is 00:07:54 if you can pass through, then you actually are finding an existence that is more life than you could have imagined, that actually the atmosphere of the Cosmic Mountain is a wonderful place to exist. If you could learn to breathe its oxygen, essentially. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's a good way of putting it. And that's the idea of heaven and earth uniting in your life, in your communities, anywhere.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Yep, that's right. Yeah. And so that process of giving up something that I thought was life, but actually might prevent me from really experiencing the abundant life of God's gift on the mountain, it feels like a death to give that thing up. Even if I get it back again, I don't know that I'm going to get it back again. What I know is that I need to give it up. And that's what's happening with Isaac. That's what's happening with David. And that's what's happening with Isaac. That's what's happening with David
Starting point is 00:08:45 and that's what's happening with Solomon too. I don't know how to lead these people, Solomon says. So he puts himself in a vulnerable place before God to say, I don't know what to do. And then that release of control he finds, at least for a time. When he trusts God, he gets an abundant version of life that he had never even imagined. That's a major theme of these mountain stories, is somebody giving up or not giving up the thing that is most precious to them. What's interesting about the story of Elijah is that two stories with opposite lessons are placed right next to each other. A success story and then a major fail story. So, to the Elijah story we go.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Okay. So, we ended our last conversation with Solomon and about how he ended up forfeiting his role as the wise son of David King. He married hundreds and hundreds of women who drew his heart away and Israel's heart to follow with the gods. The kingdom splits in the next generation, a bunch of the tribes in the north secede, and that kingdom is typically called Israel. And then Judah, with its capital in Jerusalem, remains in the south. The author of Kings starts alternating back and forth between north and south Kings as
Starting point is 00:10:29 the generations go by. And seven generations after the split, the seventh King is a guy named Ach-Av, otherwise known as Ahab. Okay. But Ach-Av. Ach means brother, Av means father. Brother father. His name is Brother Father, which is pretty rad. And the seventh king is climatically
Starting point is 00:10:53 the worst, worst of the bunch. And he's in the north? He's in the north, yep. His story begins in 1 Kings chapter 16 verse 29. And the important thing for the summary is that he's introduced as, well, Ahab, the son of Omri, did raw, bad in the eyes of Yahweh more than all who came before him. Okay. This is a new low. If it wasn't enough that he imitated the sins of Jeroboam, that was the king that broke off way back after Solomon. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:28 So now that was the seven kings. Yeah. And what he did was build two alternate temples and put golden calves in them. Yeah. That's what it's being referred to. So not only did he continue like the worship of the golden calves in those temples, he also took as his wife, Yisel, the daughter of Etbaal, the king of Sidon. He went and he served Baal or Baal and bowed down to him. So he marries
Starting point is 00:11:56 the princess of Sidon, which is a kingdom connected with Venetia right up north, whose patron deity is Baal, the god of thunder and storm god and the fertility god. Whose mountain is? His mountain is either, depends, I think for Sedonians, it would have been Yabl-Akra, the cosmic mountain way up in the north. And in the library of literature that comes from this culture called the Ugaritic Library, Ba'al is one of the names of their chiefs, deities, and there's all these stories about him slaying the dragon and defeating the waters
Starting point is 00:12:36 and ascending the mountain to build a temple and a castle up there and reigning forever and providing food for everybody and rain from the mountain. So he's the rain provider. And this is a big deal because for God's people, the Israelites, it's like the main thing is don't worship other gods. Yeah, no other God liberated you from slavery in Egypt. Just Yahweh alone.
Starting point is 00:13:03 So don't give your allegiance to other gods. It won't lead to life. It's the first commandment. You shall have no other gods before me. Yeah, that's right. And so what's interesting is because Ba'al is associated with rain in particular, what happens next is clearly a jab at the religious culture and thought of Baalism. And that story begins in 1 Kings 17 verse 1, which just begins with saying, there was a guy named Eliya, the Tishbite. Elijah.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Elijah, yes. Eliya means my God is Yah, short for Yahweh. And so Elijah said to Ahab, as Yahweh lives, the God of Israel before whom I stand, there will be no dew and no rain for years except by my word. I'm the rain God. Yahweh is the rain God and Elijah is his spokesman. So this whole story then of Elijah and Ahab and their tension takes place in the course of drought. The whole thing is set in a drought.
Starting point is 00:14:17 And that's a crisis for anybody who worships Baal. If there's no rain, then Baal's must be ticked off of you. We're not in right relationship with Baal if there's no rain, then balls must be ticked off at you. We're not in right relationship with ball if there's no rain. So the drama is about how God provides food and water for His prophet in the midst of this drought. And we don't have time to go through 1 Kings 17, though it's amazing. What I want to focus on is chapter 18. Chapter 18 begins, and many days later, the word of Yahweh came to Elijah in the
Starting point is 00:14:46 third year. So sequences of three are almost always associated with the test. There's going to be some test of someone's trust in this story. And God said, go present yourself to Ahab so that I can give rain on the face of the land. So Yahweh is showing his role as creator by withholding rain and now he's showing his role as creator by giving rain. So Elijah went to present himself to Ahab and the famine was very severe in Samaria, which became the capital city of the north. So when Ahab and Elijah meet, Ahab saw Elijah and said to him, is that you? You who have thrown Israel into confusion? This whole drought's your fault. Like this is your fault. Elijah
Starting point is 00:15:37 responds, no, no, no. I didn't throw Israel into confusion. You and the house of your father have by forsaking the commands of Yahweh and following after Baal. So send word and assemble all of Israel to me on Mount Garden. Mount Carmel. It's called Mount Carmel. Carmel is a Hebrew word for a cultivated plot of land where you grow fruit trees and grapevines. Okay. Garden mount. So on Mount Garden. So in the third year on Mount Garden, I want you to get 450 prophets of Ba'al. So get the equivalents of who I am for Yahweh.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Okay. Get 450 of them. And are these Israelites because Ahab's been worshiping Baal? Oh, that's a good question. It doesn't say. Okay. So probably it's a whole mix. Some Sedonians came down and yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:35 450 prophets of Baal and 400 prophets of Asherah, who was a female Canaanite fertility goddess, female goddess. All those prophets who eat at the table of Jezebel. So Jezebel is the key sponsor for this new religious order in Israel. She's the connection to the Sidonians and their, the way they worship. Yeah. So the whole introduction of Ba'al allegiance in Israel is connected to his marriage to her, but she's the real engine of it. So Ahab sent word among the Israelites and he assembled all the prophets to Mount Garden. Elijah approached the people and he said to all the people, so just imagine, it's just as if all of Israel is now on Mount Garden. How long will you go limping after two opinions?
Starting point is 00:17:29 That's a deep rabbit hole. We don't have time. OK. But that word limping is really interesting. But it's the idea of you've got two paths in the road, and you can't decide. You're trying to worship Baal and Yahweh. And you're like wavering between the two.
Starting point is 00:17:43 And he says, if Yahweh is God, follow him. If Baal is God, go after him. You can't worship both. You're trying to do both, and it's a contradiction in terms. So choose one. It's time to choose. Time to choose. Then Elijah said to the people, I alone am left as a prophet of Yahweh, but the prophets of
Starting point is 00:18:05 Baal are 450. Now here's something that's really interesting. That's actually not true. Matthew 4.1 Elijah is not the only prophet of Yahweh. Matthew 4.1 He's not. This chapter began with Elijah going to Ahab's right-hand like courtier servant, a guy named
Starting point is 00:18:22 Obadiah. And what we're told is that Obadiah feared Yahweh. So he's pro-Yahweh, working in the court of Ahab, who's pro-Yahweh and Baal. And when Jezebel was going around killing the prophets of Yahweh, you're like, oh my gosh, she's on like a assassination spree. Obadiah took a hundred Yahweh prophets and hid them by fifties in a cave and sustained them with food and water. So Elijah is the only one not hiding? So he's the only one not hiding. Now you could say, well, it's just ignorance. He doesn't
Starting point is 00:18:59 know those prophets exist because they're in hiding. Or on Mount Garden. I'm the only one here. I'm the only one here. There's 450 of you. The reason I'm bringing this up is because he's going to take this kind of true insight and inflate it big time in the next chapter. So famously, what he says is, let's get two bowls and build two altars. You pray to Ba'al, but note, don't set it on fire. You pray to Baal, I'll pray
Starting point is 00:19:26 to Yahweh, the God who answers with fire from heaven, a lightning bolt that sets the altar on fire, that's God. Pretty simple test. But notice the test is for the people. So the people are there, they are wavering between two opinions about who is the true God. And Elijah's gonna force this to a test. So really this is a drama about the people's wavering loyalty. Who do they think is God? That's the test. Well, okay, except that the people are gonna decide based off of which God shows up.
Starting point is 00:20:05 So in a way the test is also for God. Oh, I understand. Yes, that's right. Which God is real. Which God is real. Let's test. And then based on that, your loyalty should logically follow what happens as a result of this test.
Starting point is 00:20:20 You're right. Actually, it's as much a test for Yahweh as it is for the people. Do we have a hint here that Elijah, because it seems like testing Yahweh is not cool. Yeah, not a typical kind of move. Yeah. Well, he's presented as being so in with Yahweh that he's- Elijah is. Yep. That what he's putting forth is apparently God's down with this. Yeah, that's what it seems like. That's the assumption of the narrative.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Right. And well, as we'll see, that assumption gets itself kind of problematized as the story develops. But it seems like God's down for this because God responds. So he lets the prophets of Ba'al go first. I'm going to summarize. They pray and cry out. They dance.
Starting point is 00:21:03 They end up doing self-mutilation, which is apparently some kind of cultural practice. And multiple times the narrator just says, there was no voice, there was no response, there was no answer to their prayers or to their cry. He jokes, perhaps Baal's on a journey. He's on a work trip. Maybe he's asleep and needs to wake up. Yeah, he gets sassy. But there was no voice, no response, no answer.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Elijah said, everybody, all the people come near to me. Then he rebuilds a Yahweh altar right there on top of the mountain. He rebuilds it from 12 stones according to the number of the tribes of Jacob. Now that's interesting because the tribes are split right now. He has a vision of all Israel reunited on the mountain experiencing the presence of God. This is also what Moses did when the covenant with Yahweh was made on Mount Sinai. He built a 12 stone altar.
Starting point is 00:22:01 So this big hyperlink. He's like a new Moses. Then he built the altar. Then he arranged the wood and had the bowl cut into pieces. And then he ups the ante, this famous. He says, get four jars, fill them with water. And this is during the famine, during the drought. This is the most precious thing. He's surrendering the water that is life. So get four jars. This isn't just showing off.
Starting point is 00:22:25 No. He's making a point. He's surrendering what to them is the most precious thing they have at the moment. Pour it on the wood. Do it again. Do it a third time. So in the third year of the drought, three times. Three times four, that is, they're four jugs. So, twelve jugs of water poured three times. So, it's all the test imagery. Okay. And the test is for the twelve tribes of Israel. Anyway, it's a great number of symbolism. And then he prays. He says, Yahweh, God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, that goes back to the ancestors, let it be known today that you are God in Israel and that I am your servant and that I have done all these things by your word.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Answer me, Yahweh, answer me, so this people will know that you, oh Yahweh, are God and that you have turned their hearts back again. Then the fire of Yahweh fell down and it ate up the burnt offering, it ate up the wood, it ate up the stones, it ate up the dust, and it ate up the water that was in the trench. It licked it all up. When the people saw it, they fell on their faces and said, Yahweh, He is God, Yahweh, He is God. That's a hot fire. I've been on a camping trip where we've made like a really hot fire and it'll
Starting point is 00:23:53 just burn anything up. You know, you think like aluminum doesn't burn. Oh, yeah. A hot enough fire and they'll burn. Yeah. So it's like that kind of fire. Meaning be reduced to ash. Yeah. Yeah. So basically you like that kind of fire. Meaning be reduced to ash. Yeah. Yeah. So basically you let anything get reduced to ash, but not the stones. Yeah, the stones.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I've never seen the stones reduce to ash. I guess that would, from our vantage point, it would be like turning them back into molten material. Yeah. Wow. It's hot fire. It's super hot fire. So the people respond. Yahweh is God.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Great job, Elijah. And great job, Yahweh. And great job, people. Like it seems like it works. Interestingly, after this passing of the test and the people make the right choice, Elijah, he gets a little, something like a cane impulse, he gets a violent impulse. And he says, seize all those prophets of Baal, don't let any of them escape. They seized them.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Elijah brought them down to like a stream and he slaughtered them all there. The word slaughter, it's shachat, it's usually used of animals, how you prepare an animal for sacrifice. So that's gnarly. He's pulling like what Phineas did. He was a priest from a priestly family in the wilderness. He speared an Israelite and a non-Israelite woman through. It seems like when they were having sex in a tent because this guy, this Israelite had given his allegiance to another God by wanting to marry this woman.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Is that in Judges? It's in the book of Numbers. That's the book of Numbers. Yeah. And he's said to have zeal. Oh, yeah. Zeal. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:25:38 For Yahweh. And Elijah's following that same tradition here. Now it seems like you kind of have this undertone here of Elijah went rogue. Well, I don't want to go that far. I just want to notice also at the Golden Calf, when Moses enacts the killing spree of the Levites to kill the idolaters of the golden calf. Yeah. There the narrative is really ambiguous of whether that was God's idea or Moses' idea or Moses claiming that it's God's idea, but the narrator never explicitly said so. There's this motif within Israel's story about the use of violence to coerce Israel into following Yahweh. And it seems to not really work.
Starting point is 00:26:28 And it's this interesting study of religious violence that keeps not working. That's a theme in the Hebrew Bible that I wanna learn more about. But it's happening here. Yeah, cause you could read this and easily just be like, Elijah's on team Yahweh, they're in cooperation this whole time. And Yahweh shows up. And so when Elijah makes this move,
Starting point is 00:26:52 why would you not consider that Yahweh and him are still tag teaming on this? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So my point is just that it's ambiguous. But what's interesting is it does set in motion. You have made it feel ambiguous, but I don't see it in the text where the ambiguity is hyperlinking to all these other stories. The ambiguity would be through the hyperlinks. Yeah, when God's representatives employ violence to coerce religious devotion to Yahweh, it doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Like, the outcome of it is almost always at backfiring. And so you have to stop and say, what's the purpose of that motif? That religious violence actually doesn't generate trust and faith among God's people. Yeah, so that's the little, that's the rabbit hole. Okay, the zeal rabbit hole. Yeah, the zeal rabbit hole. So what follows is Elijah goes, tells Ahab, so we're not told if Ahab made this confession of Yahweh as God. Ahab isn't Israelite and we're told that all the people of Israel were up there and all the people saw and said Yahweh is God.
Starting point is 00:28:02 So I think we're meant to see Ahab as among. He chose the lane. Among those who choose the lane, yep. Elijah said to Ahab, hey, go up to the top of the mountain and eat and drink for I hear the sound, the noise of rain. So let's go have an Eden feast and celebrate God's blessing that's returning because God's people have acknowledged Him as God. So he went up and he had a big feast.
Starting point is 00:28:30 And Elijah went to the very tippy top of Garden, Carmel, and he kneeled down to the ground. He put his face between his knees. He is praying. He's in intercession mode. And he said to his servant, please go look towards the sea. Mount Carmel exists today. And there's a park on top of it. And you can go up and...
Starting point is 00:28:53 Matthew F. Kennedy Yeah, it's cool. It's great. I had a picnic up there once. It's a great spot. Go look in the direction of the sea. He went up and looked and the servant said, I don't see anything. And then Elijah said, I don't see anything. And then Elijah said, go back. This happened seven times. So now this servant's faith, Elijah's faith
Starting point is 00:29:12 is being tested, right? Because he's like, I said that there was going to be rain, but there's not, where's the cloud? Okay. So the rain hasn't showed up yet. It's like everybody's getting tested in the story. Yahweh had to show up. The people had to show up and make a choice. And now Elijah's prediction of the rain is being tested. And it happened at the seventh time. The servant said, well, I see a small cloud.
Starting point is 00:29:39 It's about the size of, well, a human hand coming up from the sea. That is a small cloud. It's a very small cloud. Elijah said, okay, go tell Ahab, harness your horses, get ready. Rain's coming. Rain's coming, you're gonna be riding in the mud, buddy, so get on your chariot and beat the rain.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Because in no time, the heavens grew dark with clouds and wind and there was rain. Ahab no time, the heavens grew dark with clouds and wind and there was rain, Ahab rode to Jezreel. But the hand of Yahweh was on Elijah. Where is Jezreel? Why did he go there? It's down the hill. Let's see, I need a map to remember if it's due east
Starting point is 00:30:18 or if it's a bit northeast. What's the significance of him going there? Oh, I was a major Israelite town in that time. I would need to do a little more homework on that. So Ahab's writing and then the hand of Yahweh is on Elijah and he girded up his loins, that is, he tucked in his excess robe into his belt and he ran in front of Ahab. Like he beat Ahab. He's like, he's running with God's pleasure.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Chariots of fire. Yeah, chariots of fire. Pun intended. That's how that scene ends, first test. So you're like, great. Yeah, it's a great final scene. It is a great final scene. Like the blessing is provided when God's people surrender their allegiance to anyone else
Starting point is 00:31:04 except the Creator. When Yahweh meets, sees that trust and, sorry, He didn't see their trust, God responded first. When His people weren't trusting Him, oh, that's an interesting twist. God responded with generosity and that's what compels. Having the showdown was an act of generosity. Yeah, Yahweh responding with fire was an act of generosity to compel faith in His people. And then the trust of Yahweh's prophet is tested as He waits for the rain and He keeps praying, waiting for the rain seven times over.
Starting point is 00:31:42 And so it seems like things are going to go great from here, except they don't. It seems like we just had a party on Mount Garden and a feast and God provided rain. Sweet. What could go wrong? And that's what the next story is about. But for a moment, let's just pause. This is a little Eden picture of God meeting his people with the gift of presence and rain and life on the mountain. It results in the Eden feast on Mount Garden. 19. Ahab told Jezebel all that Elijah had done and how he killed all those prophets with the sword. And remember, she sponsored all those prophets. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:49 So she just lost on her investment. So Jezebel sent a messenger to Elijah saying, may the gods do to me and may they do even more if at this time tomorrow I don't make your life like the one of them. I'm coming after you. Tomorrow I'm going to come kill you. Yeah. Which, if you stop and think about it, that's kind of a funny thing to do if you really want to kill somebody.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Sure. Yeah. Advanced notice. Yeah. Yeah. Like if she wanted to actually kill him. Yeah. It's kind of asking someone to a duel.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Yeah. Totally. Or telling them like, get out of Dodge, you know, which is what he does. So this fascinating, think of what just happened in the previous story. And then look at his response. He was filled with fear. So he got up and he ran for his life. He went so far, this is my commentary, he went down to Be'er Sheva, the Well of Seven,
Starting point is 00:33:50 which is the southern, southernmost town in the southern kingdom of Judah, right near the border with the wilderness down there. And he even left behind his servant there and he went a day's journey into the wilderness and he sat down under one tree. In Hebrew it says one tree. So think of just a desolate region with one little broom tree, which is more like a bush with barely any shade. And he asked Yahweh if he could die. He said, it's enough, Yahweh. Take my life. I am no better than any of my ancestors. Yeah, this is taking a turn. Yes. This is so different. This is so different. He didn't show any of this insecurity or fear up on the mountain.
Starting point is 00:34:47 He was just bold, you know, with the power of God. And he was facing 400 enemies, as it were. He took out Jezebel's crew in an act of faith in alliance with Yahweh in a duel. And then Jezebel's like, now I want to duel you again. He's like, oh boy, now I'm scared. Yeah, that's right. Doesn't really add up. It doesn't add up.
Starting point is 00:35:14 And he flees out of the land and then even beyond the ordered realm of the land into the chaos realm of the wilderness. Yeah, and then wants to die. And then he wants to leave the land of the living. So he leaves his people, he leaves his servant behind, he leaves the land of his ancestors, and now he wants to leave the land of the living, just like solitude, isolation, despair. And what he says is, it's enough, too much, Yahweh. You've put too much on me." He is saying to Yahweh, the situation
Starting point is 00:35:48 you put me in as your prophet is too much. Yeah, the queen wants to kill me. Well, she's not queen, but she's the princess. Yeah, she is the queen now. She's the queen. Yeah, so he's kind of... I mean, that's intense. The queen wants to kill you. It is intense, but just such a contrast. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:03 It just feels like something's not connecting you. Gone too far, Yahweh. I'm tapping out. I'm tapping out. Take my life. I'm no better than my ancestors, meaning, listen, like, if I can't accomplish a transformation among the people by the thing that just happened. So he's appealing back to the prophets who came before, a guy named Achya and Samuel. I can't lead the people back to you, Yahweh. But he did lead the people back to you. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:32 That's exactly right. It seems like he's lost touch with reality. Okay. So what happens is God feeds him under this tree, he sends an angel and he's fed with food that has all the vocabulary of God feeding Israel manna in the wilderness. Even the name of the jar that's provided for him is the name of the jar that the manna got put in, in Exodus. So it's like a reed he's providing for his faithless people or person in the wilderness.
Starting point is 00:37:06 And what he says is, get up, eat this food because the journey is greater than you are. So God acknowledges, like, you have a task before you that is too great for you, but I'm asking you to do it. So God graciously feeds him in the wilderness. And then what we're told is he got up, ate and drank and went in the strength of that food 40 days and 40 nights. And you're like, oh, just like Moses. And he went to Horeb, the mountain of God,
Starting point is 00:37:35 which is otherwise known as Mount Sinai. Okay. So we are really just, we're doing the wilderness. We're doing the Moses thing. We're doing the Moses thing. The Moses thing. Yeah. He's all of Israel in a way, doing the Moses thing. The Moses thing. Yeah. He's all of Israel in a way,
Starting point is 00:37:46 because he's Israel that's fled, well, stuck in the wilderness. Yeah, being nourished by God, and then now being asked to go up the mountain. And he was already a Moses figure on Mount Garden when he built that 12 stone altar, right? Put a choice before Israel, follow Yahweh or not. So he's like Moses already, but now he's like Moses.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Moses asked God to take his life once in Numbers chapter 11, when the people complained about not having enough food. And he was like, I can't do this. I can't carry these people, just take my life. So now he's like Moses in his despair. And so he goes to Mount Sinai. So now he's going to another mountain and it's just him. This story is so rad.
Starting point is 00:38:34 It's a little riddle. He came to the cave. So you're just supposed to know what cave. He goes to the cave and he spent the night there. And you're like, well, there's only one other person who's been on this mountain in the story of the Bible who stayed the night in a cave up there. Okay. So this is Moses' cave. Yeah, it's Moses' cave. When he was up there, and what was he doing? He talked with Yahweh
Starting point is 00:39:01 spending the night in the cave. he was interceding, asking for God's mercy on the faithless people, identifying himself with the people. So much so that he said, if you don't go with us, if you don't forgive the people, then I'm not going and take my life. How different is what Elijah is going to do sleeping in the cave on the same mountain? The word of Yahweh came to him and said, Elijah, why are you here? What are you doing here? This is not...
Starting point is 00:39:42 This is an important spot. Yeah, this is an important spot. Yeah, this is an important spot. I can kind of... You think Yahweh could kind of be put the pieces together. He's trying to do the Moses thing. It raises the question is, where did God feed Elijah to go? When He said the journey's too great for you, where was he supposed to go? Ah, yeah, yeah. Was he supposed to go back? Like it didn't say.
Starting point is 00:39:59 It just said, he ate the food and then he went to Mount Sinai. Right. You're like, why did he go there? Why'd you go there? Why did you go there? Yeah. And- So this clues you in, Yahweh doesn't seem to think that's where he needs to be.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Yeah, Elijah's like, why did you come here? What are you doing here? Got it. Here it is. Elijah said, I have been so zealous for you, Yahweh, God of armies. Listen, the Israelites have forsaken your covenant, they've torn down your altars and they've killed all your prophets with a sword. I alone am the one left and they are trying to kill me.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Yeah, well, Jezebel is. Okay, let's notice that. Yeah, he is taking what Jezebel said and made it as if all the people are trying to kill him. So, it's not quite true. I alone am left over. Well, that's not true. In fact, there are a hundred prophets living in a cave that that guy Obadiah, so it's kind of surely ironic. Now that Ahab's chosen Elaine, those prophets could be out and about.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Right. Yeah. So that's not true that he's alone. They have killed your prophets with the sword? Well, Jezebel did. They have demolished your altars? Well, I guess more Jezebel did, but he just rebuilt one on Mount Carmel. And he killed all of their prophets. They have forsaken your covenant? Well, yes, but they just re-ann of their prophets. Yeah. Yeah. They have forsaken your covenant.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Well, yes, but they just re-announced their allegiance. I was going to say this story makes more sense if it was the story before. Right? Yeah. The story we just read. Literally, the only thing honestly, transparently truthful in his speech is, I have been zealous for Yahweh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Everything else is distorted and it's not like it's a lie, but it's a distorted vision of reality. Where he has interpreted everything that's happened as if he's the center of the drama. And notice what he doesn't do. He's accusing the people who just re-signed up for the covenant. And he does the opposite of what Moses did in this very spot. In this spot, when the people were faithless and idolatrous, Moses is... Moses says, I will be the covenant keeper for my people.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Yeah. Even though the people are not down. Yeah, and so he offers his life in the place of the people. Here, Elijah goes to the same spot, and not only does he not do that, he asks God to take his life, but not for the people, but for himself. And now he's accusing the people who just turned back to Yahweh. That they're not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Oh, wow. It's a total distortion. Yeah, dude, this is a fascinating portrait of despair, of like the strange ways that we distort reality in our minds when we spiral and become over-isolated. But also I think a little over-focused on thinking that my story is the only story of what God is up to in the world. He clearly thinks that the whole story of God in Israel hangs on him. And he's like, it's hopeless, it's over, take me now.
Starting point is 00:43:15 I mean, he did just play a pivotal role. Yeah, that's what's so puzzling. But things went well. I know, yeah, totally. The only problem right now is he still has an enemy with Jezebel. Exactly, yeah. And somehow that pivotal moment... That spun him out.
Starting point is 00:43:30 It's a... I want to be empathetic here. Okay. Because I think most of us know some kind of moment like this. Where something really hard happens. Yeah. And it spins you out. Totally. And it's so hard to know what is reality anymore.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Yeah. So I want to be sympathetic. But at the same time, the jarring contrast between the Elijah of chapter 18 and this Elijah and the contrast with Moses. Somebody really wants us to compare him to Moses and contrast him with Moses. So Yahweh responds. He says, go out and stand out on the mountain before Yahweh. So what's interesting is standing before Yahweh is a key phrase.
Starting point is 00:44:12 That was the first thing Elijah said. He says in chapter 17, as Yahweh, the God of Israel, before whom I stand, says, there will be no dew or rain. Oh, okay. So God's response is essentially, listen, stand before me. Yeah. Meaning, like you're my guy. Like it's an invitation for Elijah to stand once again before Yahweh. It's a shorthand for stand in my presence. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Let's do this. Suddenly Yahweh passed by. I know this. I know this story. With Moses. Yeah. With a great strong wind ripping the mountains, crushing rocks in front of Yahweh. But Yahweh wasn't in the wind. After the wind, there was an earthquake. But Yahweh wasn't in the wind. After the wind there was an earthquake, but Yahweh wasn't in the earthquake. After the earthquake, fire, but Yahweh wasn't in the fire. And after the fire there was, and this is the famous line in the King James, it's translated as a still small voice.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Well, that's King James. Still small voice. Still small voice. Oh, that's King James. Still small voice. Still small voice. It's not quite, it's not quite right on. The phrase is kol de ma de ka. Kol means the sound. De ma ma means silence or a void of sound such that the silence itself feels like a sound. Have you ever been in somewhere that's so silent that it actually, your eardrums are experiencing something?
Starting point is 00:45:53 They're kind of ringing. Yes. But what they're ringing with is the sound of the absence of sound. That's demama. Okay. There's a Hebrew word for that. Yeah, demama. It's aama. Okay. There's a Hebrew word for that. Yeah, demama. It's a very precise word. Yeah. And then daka, which means, refers elsewhere to something that has been so pulverized or
Starting point is 00:46:12 crushed into powder that it's like, it's almost transparent. It's a thing, but not a thing. Wait, what's that word again? That's the last word, daka. Daka. So the phrase is kol demama, the sound of a sheer silence, a thin silence. In other words, in the story of Moses, when Yahweh showed up, what he said, he passed by in fire and wind, and he spoke saying, Yahweh, Yahweh, gracious, compassionate, slow
Starting point is 00:46:42 to anger, abounding in loyal love and faithfulness. Yahweh says this. That's what Yahweh says. Here in this story with a prophet who doesn't want his job anymore, Yahweh shows up in wind and fire and earthquake, but don't mistake those things for Yahweh himself. And then right at the moment you think Yahweh is going to say something. He just says nothing.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Then after that Yahweh repeats His question, what are you doing here? And Elijah repeats the thing he just said, his distortion of reality. And then Yahweh's speech is, all right, I need you to go back to the land and you are going to appoint all of your replacements. So go appoint Hazael, the king over Aram, I'm going to use that guy to do my purpose. Go appoint Jehu, the son of Nimchi, over Israel,
Starting point is 00:47:41 he's going to accomplish a bunch of stuff for me. And then go anoint Elisha and he's going to accomplish a bunch of stuff for me, and then go anoint Elisha, and he's going to be a prophet in your place. And listen, I have, remaining in Israel, 7,000 who haven't bowed their knees to Baal. You're actually not the only one, Elijah. I've got a whole crew. And if you're going to withdraw from my service service and you're going to refuse to listen, then go appoint your replacements. And that's how the story ends. So he has a success on the mountain and then he has this personal failure to trust God
Starting point is 00:48:19 on the mountain and he forfeits his role as God's prophet. Isn't that fascinating? It's such a fascinating story. Yeah. on the mountain and he forfeits his role as God's prophet. Isn't that fascinating? Such a fascinating story. Yeah. So hearing the silence, it feels like in context of all these stories now, it feels like that moment is about Elijah stuck in his own delusion
Starting point is 00:48:40 that he can't hear Yahweh. That's right, yes. Yeah, even when Yahweh is showing up, and all the things that are classic Yahweh, the fire, like he just did on Mount Carmel. But now Elijah can't hear, sense God, it's just like he's closed any accessibility to God out. On the mountain, on the very,, we're playing with the contrast here. So here's a guy who can't experience the heavenly presence of God on the mountain anymore, because he's so living in his own head.
Starting point is 00:49:15 It's the guy who just brought down Yahweh fire and turned all of Israel back to Yahweh on a mountain, on the garden mountain. I know. You just did that. You just did that. And now the same guy is so lost now that he can't hear the voice of God on the mountain. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:37 So it's a portrait of how the same person can become that mediating mountaint top hero to reunite heaven and earth and turn faithless people back to God. Yet that same person is capable within just a few choices of becoming completely unable to hear from God on the mountain. And not just that, it has to do with this, he has a selfish turn where
Starting point is 00:50:05 he begins accusing the people instead of mediating on their behalf. So the portrait of Elijah is really complicated. He's a positive and a negative figure, but that's true of Abraham, that's true of David, it's true of Solomon, it's true of all these biblical characters. Right. Yeah, we've just come off of David and Solomon and what struck me with those is how it's the same kind of whiplash. Yeah, the total whiplash, yes. And that's part of the narrative effect, I think, that keeps driving the messianic portrait or plot line forward in the Hades Bible. But here it's so tightly like constructed.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Yeah, the next week too. It almost doesn't feel real. You're like, could somebody really go through that? But actually, think about it. Think about how fragile we are really. Our psyches really are. And our ability to keep a grasp on what's true. That we can all see parts of our own life that make sense of the story. That's exactly right, yeah. The stories, you can at a distance be critical of him,
Starting point is 00:51:09 just like you can of Israel in the wilderness. But then the moment you think about your own life journey and see yourself in the mirror of these characters, you're like, oh yeah, I know this. I've been there. I've been there. And yeah, so both of these are depictions of the crisis of the mountain, the heavenly mountain coming down to meet people.
Starting point is 00:51:32 And sometimes it goes awesome and sometimes it doesn't. And these two positive and negative portraits are right next to each other with the same guy. And that's the puzzle and the power, I think, of the Elijah story. So there's a puzzle here about just the crisis of humanity's calling. Yeah. And there's also then at the center of this driving theme of who can ascend. Who can ascend? So we've got Adam and Eve and we had Abraham and we have
Starting point is 00:52:03 Moses and David, Solomon, Elijah, and they're all problematic. And so that's where I want to take our attention. Next then is in the portrait of the Cosmic Mountain in the Psalms, which is going to take all of these narrative themes and wrap them up in a handful of poems that we'll look at. But one of them, the first line is, Who then can ascend the mountain of the Lord? Thanks for listening to this episode of Bible Project Podcast. Next week, we'll continue
Starting point is 00:52:36 the theme of the mountain in the scroll of Psalms. Specifically, we'll look at Psalms 15 through 24. And there we'll find the hope for a mountaintop intercessor who creates a cosmic feast. This whole collection is about the arrival of a king who has suffered, been vindicated by God out of his suffering, holds a feast on Mount Zion that summons the righteous and the nations and even the dead. Even the dead? Well, that's next week.
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