BibleProject - God’s First Commands in the Bible

Episode Date: March 30, 2026

The 10 Commandments E2 — Why does God give commands and why is it so hard for humans to follow them? Before digging into the 10 Commandments line by line, we’ll first trace the theme of God’s co...mmands in the Genesis scroll. The first two times God issues commands are on pages one and two of the Bible. In this episode, Jon and Tim discuss the blessing to “be fruitful and multiply,” as well as the “do not eat from the tree” command in Genesis 1 and 2, highlighting humanity’s folly and foundational need for God’s guidance. FULL SHOW NOTES For chapter-by-chapter summaries, biblical words, referenced Scriptures, and reflection questions, check out the full show notes for this episode. God’s Very First Command Is a Blessing (0:00–9:51) The Three-Part Command About the Trees (9:51–29:32) The Human Folly in Eden (29:32–47:17) OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT View this episode’s official transcript. REFERENCED RESOURCES BibleProject resources about the snake in the garden:  The Satan and Demons Video Spiritual Warfare Podcast Episode Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books. SHOW MUSIC “Hope in the Morning,” by Lofi Sunday feat. CRFT & GXNXSIS “Eucalyptus,” by Lofi Sunday feat. Eluzai BibleProject theme song by TENTS  SHOW CREDITS Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer, who also edited today’s episode and provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty writes the show notes. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:05 What is the first command of God in the Bible? Well, it's on page one after God creates life and orders the cosmos. He creates humans and he points them to be his image. And he instructs them this way. Be fruitful, multiply, subdue the earth, and rule it. In other words, carry forward God's authority and rule over what he began. The first directives God gives to the humans are essentially imitate the divine life. So the first time God tells anybody what to do, it's a blessing. While the first command in the
Starting point is 00:00:42 Bible is called a blessing, the second command in the Bible is straight up called a command. And it has two parts. The first part of the command reminds us of the blessing. Eat of every tree in the garden. The good that you see out there is real. And when you find the good, enjoy it. And when I am enjoying the good, And what I am enjoying is God. The second part of the command is about how there's one tree that will look good, but will actually lead to death. So don't eat from that tree. There are apparently some things that look good, but that won't be good for me, at least not now. And these two parts of the command work together.
Starting point is 00:01:25 God's command is twofold. One, have life, enjoy good. The second part of the command is don't die. Now, all the trees in the garden look good for eating. But not every tree is wise to eat from. You can appreciate goodness, but not have to take it into yourself and make yourself become one with it. You can just see and be like, that's good.
Starting point is 00:01:51 And isn't that what God's asking them to do with this one particular tree? So how can we learn to discern between what looks good and what is truly good? How can you know? The only thing in this story is Yahweh's command. Today we trace the theme of the commands of God in the Bible as we prepare to meditate on the Ten Commandments. Thanks for joining us. Here we go. Hello, Tim.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Hello, John. We are talking ten words. The Ten Commandments introduced to us in the story of Exodus as the Ten Words. Yeah, that's right. Some of the most famous things that God says in the whole Bible. famous meaning, lots of people probably know about them. Whether all those people have pondered their full significance and all of the cosmic meaning buried within them,
Starting point is 00:02:48 well, that's the journey we are on. That's the journey you and I are on. Yeah, and we'll get to the bottom of everything. So in our last conversation, we just kind of introduced the 10, roughly where they appear in the biblical story. Yes. They're introduced in the second book of a Christian book, Bible. Right. And the second book of the Jewish Bible, the book of Exodus, and actually halfway through it.
Starting point is 00:03:11 So you're almost 70 chapters in to the biblical story before the 10 are introduced. Yeah. Typically, when you and I are doing a theme study, we try to look for themes that are introduced right in the first pages that are continued throughout the Hebrew Bible, culminate in Jesus, and somehow there's some kind of culmination near the end of the Bible. So the Ten Commandments as such don't quite fit that bill. It's a little unique because they're not introduced till way, way into the story. Yeah. However.
Starting point is 00:03:49 All right. Tell me about Genesis 1. How did you know? How did you know? So the significance of God telling a human what to do, that doesn't happen for the first time. at Mount Sinai. Yes. That actually happens
Starting point is 00:04:08 in the first pages of the first scroll of the Bible. About Genesis 2, though, however, right? Right. Genesis 2. It's where God tells a human what to do.
Starting point is 00:04:18 That's right. But God's speaking happens in Genesis 1. Okay. I think I know this, Bible trivia. In Genesis 1, 10 times God speaks?
Starting point is 00:04:28 Oh, God speaks 10 times in Genesis 1. It's got to be connected to the 10 words. Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely. That's great.
Starting point is 00:04:35 The first place, that we actually do start is with the 10 words spoken in the seven-day creation narrative. Yeah. Where God tells creation what to do. And the first one is, let there be light, right? Let there be light. What God does is speak to God's own self about God's own light, right? emanating, generating out into the universe.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Something goes out from God into the nothingness. It is God's own light. So that's God speaking to the darkness, day one. And day two is God speaking about the chaos waters that they separate. God introduces an orderly line and division in between the waters. Then God calls, thirdly, the dry land up out of the waters, and then calls plants, summons the plants to come up out of the ground. These are all the words.
Starting point is 00:05:24 These are words, one through four. Okay. Yeah, one through five. There's seven days, but there's ten words. There's ten words, yeah. So you go through. The tenth thing that God says. is to the humans.
Starting point is 00:05:36 In Genesis 1, and it goes like this. And God said, let us make human in our image, according to our likeness, and let them rule. Then you get the little poem in verse 27. Elohim created human in his image. In the image of Elohim, he created him, male, and female.
Starting point is 00:05:56 He created them. Yeah. It's a rad little three-part meditation puzzle. Then you get a repetition. of God speaking. So actually here's the 10th. Oh, wait, that was the 9th before? Yeah, that was 9th and, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:09 So the 9th and the 10th are a little symmetrical frame around the image of God poem. Around the image of God poem. Whoa, okay. But this 10th one has a little twist and God blessed them and God said to them. So the 10th thing God says is also a blessing. They're called blessings, not commands.
Starting point is 00:06:27 But they're stated as instruction or like, do this. Yeah, be fruitful, multiply, fill, the land, subdue it, rule. You can think of those as instructions or commands. That's right. Yeah, it's five. It's framed as blessings. Five verbs. Be fruitful. Do multiply. Do fill the land. Subdu it and rule it.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Yeah. But they are called blessings, words of blessing. Okay. So blessing, right, is about God donating his own infinite auto-generating abundance to another creature so that it now gets to generate and experience that abundance and security and order and harmony.
Starting point is 00:07:10 And what else is being fruitful and multiplying and creating order, subduing? It's about abundance. It's about abundance and order. And order. Yeah, that's the blessing. So the first directives God gives to the humans are essentially imitate the divine life out of God's infinite abundance, a whole universe. of different things comes into being, all these different expressions of God's creative abundance.
Starting point is 00:07:40 And then he makes a creature that's an image. It's like that likeness of God is focused in on one creature. And that image is also called to bring order and experience. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. So the first time God tells anybody what to do, it's a blessing. Isn't that interesting? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Just enjoy being and be like me, which means to be fruitful and multiply and spread order. Yeah. When instructions are a blessing, that's interesting. Yeah, the tenth word, which these ten words in Genesis do, well, actually, you would invert it and you would say the ten words of Exodus are in echoing back to God's ten order bringing blessing, generating words, something like that. So you could think of the Ten Commandments as stodgy rules.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Right. But you could think of them as an opportunity for blessing. Yeah. Yes. And being the image of God. Yeah. And then the fifth command, the fifth of the ten, actually has the blessing in it. Honor your father and mother so that you can have long days in the land.
Starting point is 00:08:49 That's the blessing. Yeah. So creating an ecosystem of multi-generational honor will result in an experience of blessing long days in the land. Yeah. That's the first time God tells a human what to do. Second time, God tells a human what to do. It's going to feel similar, but also the narrative context is a little different. So here, it's the context of God has brought a garden into being in the middle of a desert. This is Genesis 2.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Yep. The Eden story begins, Genesis 2, verse 4. What we're told is there's no plants, there's no water, it's no human, it's just dust. just dust and dirt. So spring pops up out of the ground, plants come up out of the ground. Yahweh plants a garden, Yahweh forms the human,
Starting point is 00:10:10 then breathes into the human, the breath of life, puts the human in the garden, and then we're told, man, this garden is sweet trees. Every tree is beautiful to look at and good for eating. And there's the tree of life
Starting point is 00:10:27 in the middle of the garden and the tree of knowing good bed. So lots of beautiful trees. They are given to eat and enjoy, sustain your life. There's a tree that will really sustain your life. And then, you know, the tree of knowing good and bad, which is introduced and you're like, well, what's the significance? Yeah, that one must be tasty.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yeah, and the last one is the one that should cause the most questions in the minds of the reader. You get a little aside about the river that flows out of Eden. The one river that is four. One river becomes four. Then verse 15, we pick up, Yahweh God took the human and rested him in the garden of Eden to work it and to keep it. These are important little words because the word work avad is also the word used to serve or to give one's labor and allegiance. Like all of my productivity that I can generate is for another.
Starting point is 00:11:28 That's this word. And then to keep means I've been entrusted with something. And now it's my responsibility to guard it, to keep it. And both of these words are going to be relevant in the Ten Commandments. Both of these words are used. Oh, okay. Do not have any other gods before me. Do not avod them.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Oh, and that's the work. Oh, yeah. Do not serve them. Do not serve them. Don't direct all the energy of your life and what you produce. in allegiance to another deity, Avad. And then in the fourth command, keep the Sabbath, it's Shemar,
Starting point is 00:12:11 this word used here, keep the Sabbath. Keep it, keep the garden, keep the Sabbath. Yeah. So notice, this is the narrator, this is not God speaking, just the narrator says, Yahweh put the human in the garden to work and to keep. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Then Yahweh Elohim commanded the human human. Okay, here's the command. This is the word command. It's not the var. It's not the word speak and it got translated as command. It actually is the Hebrew verb command, which is sava. Okay. And then from that you get the Hebrew noun mitzvah, mitzvah. And then the plural of that is mitzvote commands. Okay. So, tzvah, mitzvah. Instruction is one way, but I actually think that English word better captures the Hebrew word Torah. Instruction. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:01 So command's a pretty good one. It's a directive. I'm telling you what to do. Command. Cava. Savat. I mean, can we think of some other direct? So instruction.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Instruct has a pedagogy program, like a school. Training in mind, and that's not Savah. Okay. Svah is just basically... Do this. Follow these... Do this. Do what I say.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I need you to do what I say. Okay. Yeah. Command. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Now, this is the narrator telling us, Yahweh al-Him commanded the human, saying, and now we're going to maybe, let's try and define what Savah means by what it is that God says. Okay. Let's think of it that way. And here's the mitzvah.
Starting point is 00:13:46 From every tree of the garden, you will eat, eat. This mitzvah has three parts to it. Okay. That's part one. That's part one. So the first part is from... Eat of every tree. Yeah. And you're like, well, that sounds like the jesus. Genesis one blessing, which was be fruitful and multiply. Which means I need a lot of food.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yeah. So here it's just enjoy all the trees. Eat up. Eat up. Yeah. So the first part of the mitzvah is to enjoy God's good world and what it provides for you. Party on. Party on.
Starting point is 00:14:17 So there's this wide open field of human experience now that I've just been commanded, right, to enjoy. That just raises a million issues. Like how, right? And so the second part of the mitzvah comes along, and it qualifies, specifies. And it's the first prohibition in the Bible. The first do not, thou shalt not. But from the tree of knowing good and bad,
Starting point is 00:14:47 thou shalt not eat from it. Which is just you will not eat from it. Yeah, okay. So we were introduced to that tree earlier. Yeah, yeah. We didn't know why. Here, it's like, oh, okay, that's the one tree not to eat of. We still don't know why in the story.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Yeah. Eat of every tree. There's this one. It's a tree of knowing good and bad. Not that one. That's right. Just not that one. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Now, knowing good and bad. So just a quick reminder, this is a phrase used throughout the Hebrew Bible. To discern between good or bad or know between good and bad, it's a mark of human moral maturity. children that are really young or a human that's super old, like right about near death, are the two seasons of human life where
Starting point is 00:15:36 someone doesn't really probably have a very reliable knowledge of good and bad. I didn't know about the old one. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So for children, you're naive. You don't know. You don't know. You haven't learned. Yeah. There's a guy that comes to David when David is coming back to Jerusalem after he was run out
Starting point is 00:15:54 by his son who staged a coup. And this guy says to David, like, I'm not going to come with you. You don't need, I can't add any value to you. Let my son come with you, but I'm too old. I don't know good from bad anymore. You lose it. Yeah. Point is my mind isn't.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Your mind's going. My mind's going. Yeah. Yeah, super interesting. Okay. So go back to these trees. This is important. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:19 This is, as always, what's happening in this moment is foundational for understanding all of God's commands to follow. In a way, you could say all the commands, the 10 and the hundreds, all are unfolding. It all starts here. The core idea of what's happening in this moment. What I was just told
Starting point is 00:16:40 was that every single tree in this garden is desirable to see. Desire, that's the word used in the 10th command. Don't covet. It's the same word in Hebrew. Don't desire. Hamad. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:55 So every tree, and actually this is key, Genesis 2 verse 9, this has been a very productive meditation for me in the last year. Yahweh caused a sprout from out of the ground, every tree, and it's given two descriptions, desirable for seeing and good for eating. So those are set in parallel with each other. So desirable to see, good to eat. Let's meditate on these things. So desirable matches good. and seeing matches eating. Huh.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Think of it like two parallel lines in Hebrew poetry. Oh, Lord, the trees that you have planted, they are desirable to see. Yes, they are good for eating. Okay. If that was set up in a line of biblical poetry, you would say, hmm, somebody wants me to think of these two things connected. So what's the relationship of desiring, something that is desirable and something that is good? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:54 When you desire something it's because you want it and you want it because it's good. Right. At least you think it's good. Yeah. So what any creature wants is its own good.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Yeah. And that might seem so intuitive but it actually it's worth saying out loud. Yeah. What is it that motivates any living creature to do? This is why the golden rule works.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Yeah, that's right. Due to others what you would do yourself. I want good. Yes. So do good to others. That's right. Now, you can introduce the twist to say, well, man, what I think is good isn't always actually good.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Yeah. So I want good, but do I actually see what is good? Totally. But that doesn't call into question the basic truth about human experience. That is our good. Whether or not it is good for me, the reason I do anything is because I think that it is the good. I might be mistaken, but the reason I'm doing it is still because I think it's good.
Starting point is 00:18:52 That is interesting that for how diverse people are and how many different ways there are to try to exist in the world, every single person is actually after the good. The good. And it might be how in the course of a human life that my sense of what is good has become so misshapen, right? So damaged, so corrupted that what I am. actually think is good for me are actions that hurt me or hurt other people.
Starting point is 00:19:28 But even then, underneath all the wreckage is still a desire to do what is good. It's just the good has become so mutated that it's hard to see what good one is pursuing if they do something that right on the outside looks really bad. So notice that desire and good are connected there in the parallelism, desirable to see good for eating. What I desire is the good. I desire the good, wanting the thing that I believe will bring me good.
Starting point is 00:20:00 That's the basic relationship. So now let's move to the seeing and eating. Because those are desire and good, you said, are pretty intuitive how those relate. Seeing and eating. So seeing is a part of noticing, perceiving something as good, but not taking it.
Starting point is 00:20:19 You can see and appreciate goodness, but not. But you haven't consumed it. Yeah. So the difference between seeing and eating is really interesting. Because you can appreciate goodness but not have to take it into yourself
Starting point is 00:20:33 and make yourself become one with it. You can just see and be like, that's good. And isn't that what God's asking them to do with this one particular tree? Because when the woman sees the forbidden tree, what we're told is it was desirable to look at. Yeah. Because all the trees are desirable.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Because all the trees are desirable. This is so profound, man. The longer I sit with this simple little verse, Genesis 2 verse 9, it's like the whole universe opens up. And remember in the seven days, God did X, he saw that it was good. Genesis 1, creation is good. When God has his way, he creates the good.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Yeah, that creation is good. And good is something that humans perceive, first with their eyes, and then their eyes, which creates desire. Which generates desire. Yeah. Which then leads to an impulse to take
Starting point is 00:21:30 and want to become one with it. Yes. Yeah. So by saying that every tree is going to look good, but now we know there's one tree that looks good and will excite your desire,
Starting point is 00:21:45 but it is not good for you. It's a sneaky tree. And there's nothing visible that will lead me to know the difference. So how can you know? How can you know? How can you know? The only thing in this story is Yahweh's command. Yeah, the word. And the word says, eat of every tree in the garden. Oh, this one.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Do not eat from it. No, let me finish the command. That's the third part. Because in the day you eat from it, you will die, die. The verbs repeated twice in Hebrew. So first command, enjoy every tree. Why? Every tree is so beautiful to see. And once that desire is excited within you, it'll impel you to move towards the good. So follow your desire and consume the good. Follow your desire.
Starting point is 00:22:34 The good that you see out there is real. And when you find the good, enjoy it. And when I am enjoying the good, what I am enjoying is God. because the seven-day narrative taught me that God is the knower and provider and definer of all good. So any physical object within creation here, with the trees,
Starting point is 00:22:59 is actually a sign or a symbol pointing to an ultimate source of all good. So in a way, eating and enjoying the tree is a way to enjoy God. That's what these two narratives next to each other are teaching me. Because God's the provider of what's good.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Good comes from God. But you're enjoying the goodness God's providing. Yes. How are you taking the next step saying, and so I'm actually enjoying God? Ah, because anything that is good is a gift of God, because God is the provider of what is good. Good doesn't just happen. Good is the product of a mind with the power. Good would not exist without God.
Starting point is 00:23:40 That's right. To generate a world within some objects are fine and other objects are good. But actually, Genesis 1, the 7-Dayan era, taught me that all of it's good. It's all good. It's all good. But there are apparently, also some things that look good, but that won't be good for me, at least not now. And the only thing that will tell me is not looking at it. It's listening to God's command.
Starting point is 00:24:08 That's right. So God's command is twofold. One, live. Have life enjoy good. Yeah. The second part of the command is don't die. Truly. I mean, right?
Starting point is 00:24:24 The assumption is in the day that you eat of it, you'll die, then kind of the assumption is, and I don't think you want to die. Yeah. I think you want to live. Yeah. So live and do not die. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:35 So follow your desire and eat. Yes. It's all good. Yep. Although you are going to run into situations where it's going to look good, yes. But it's not.
Starting point is 00:24:45 It's not. In that situation, listen to my voice. Yep. Yep. And when you do that, you're not going to die. Yeah. You'll avoid death and you will experience life. Which is back to then, well, what's the purpose of this? It's for life. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Okay. So that's the three parts of God's command to humans. Yeah. Three parts. And there's really just, there's a positive element. Yeah. Eat and have life. Yeah. Listen to my voice and don't die. Don't eat what will lead to death. Okay. Do what leads to life. Don't do what leads to death.
Starting point is 00:25:20 When you say it that way, it's kind of like really, really simple. It is really. But when you meditate about this image of the trees and the garden and being in this orchard and all this beautiful fruit, but there's a poison tree and you don't know the difference. It's just like cites the imagination. It's hard to think of a story with better images. I have an impulse to take, but I could take the wrong thing that will do. destroy me. It's kind of comical to think of us as creatures that just want to like take good and consume it. Yeah. Yeah. Take and eat and consume and become one with good. We want the good. I want
Starting point is 00:25:55 that. I want to be one with that. Yeah. It's very simple. It's not just that we want good in the abstract. What we want is the goodness that the concrete thing in front of me will provide. I want to live. I want to taste good things in my mouth. Yeah. It's pleasure. Yeah. Pleasure. Yeah. I desire pleasure and life. Abundant life. Abundant life. Yeah. Yeah, because you can just stay alive and eat like bread and stale bread. And that's living.
Starting point is 00:26:22 But man, if you could live and taste apples and oranges and tiramisu and soft brownies with vanilla ice cream. Right? Keylamp pie. Keylamp pie. Now we're talking the good life. But then that introduces the problem, which is not everything that humans see,
Starting point is 00:26:42 and desire is actually good for them. So the story introduces these kind of two principles. God wants humans to live, to be partners with them. Yeah. Listen to what God says, do what leads to life. And you can think of it in terms of you can eat something that's actually poisonous. Yep. But the real complexity of human life where things get weird is how we relate to each other.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Right. And how we relate to creation, which is a part of how we relate to each other. Right. So as we're taking and consuming the good, I mean, there is the trap of grabbing something and consuming it and realizing actually that wasn't good for me. Right. And that happens. Yeah. And that can be complicated.
Starting point is 00:27:21 But where it gets really complicated is as we're all taking and consuming and looking for the good as a community. Yeah, right. How to do that in a communal way. Yes. Where we are honoring each other and loving each other. Yes. And in those complex environments, it will often be the case that we don't. actually know what is truly good for ourselves.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And our desires, or what we see, is not reliable. Like, it's either selfish, self-oriented in some way, that it's about having pleasure of goodness at the expense of another.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Or it could just be lack of knowledge, ignorance about the cause-effect sequence, that me doing this thing that I think is good will set into motion something that actually is bad for my neighbor 10 years from now. So this story is simultaneously saying God is pat creation with goodness to be in joy that leads to life. But I actually need to become also suspicious of my eyes. And I need to be somewhat suspicious of my desires, not because desire is bad,
Starting point is 00:28:29 but my desire for the good could lead me towards something that looks good but is not. And how am I supposed to know what's the way forward? And in the Eden story, it's a very simple moment in the story where God is the one who says, listen, I will teach you. I will teach you how to know good from bad. If not from this tree, my command will be how you know good from bad. That's fundamental. So Genesis 3 begins by saying there's a snake in the garden. And it's crafty.
Starting point is 00:29:39 It's shrewd. So he's an opportunity. Yeah. So no backstory about the snake. Other than it's a creature that God made. We know that. And I don't know, maybe I'll hyperlink to our podcast series on spiritual beings and the God series. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:59 So the snake starts talking to the woman and says, did God really say, don't eat from any of the trees of the garden? Which, of course, is kind of a trick question. Not what God said. In fact, it's the opposite of what God said. He said, eat, eat. It's what God said with the introduction of the word not. Remember? It's a way to screw things up.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yeah. God said, do eat from all the trees of the garden. And what he says is snakes said to God say, don't eat. Do not eat from any trees of garden. So the woman, that's the easy one, right? Yeah. So she says like, no, that's not what God said. The fact checks the snake, right?
Starting point is 00:30:35 Yeah. Yeah. But what the woman notices is, well, God did say from all the trees. of the garden, eat. Well, but there's one. Yeah, the one. So, suddenly the snake draws attention to the one.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Let's talk about that one. The one object of desire that God said, it looks good, but it will kill you. Right, he's drawing attention to that. Right. And the woman says, well, God says, we'll die if we'll eat it. So it looks good, but it's not.
Starting point is 00:31:04 And then the snake says to the woman, you're not going to die. God knows that in the day you eat of it, your eyes will be opened, an image of knowledge and illumination. It was a metaphor. Okay. And that you will be like Elohim, knowers of good and bad. Now, we can't really trust the snake here at this point.
Starting point is 00:31:25 That what he's saying is reality. No. That's the whole point, is that he's a deceiver. So the snake both tells the truth and he lies. Okay. And that's always the hardest kind of lie, right? The lies that are full of half-truths. So he does say you will not die, and that is not true.
Starting point is 00:31:44 They're going to die if they eat the fruit. Yep, totally. They're going to cut themselves off from God's life. So that's a lie. And he also says there's just other effects that you'll have that you really will by declaring through your choice to do what God said is not good. You will become a knower of good and bad. Yeah. The tree.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And that's true. And you desire that. Yeah. He's speaking to her desire. You want to know good from bad. You can actually just have it. And the day you eat from this, you're going to have it. That's right.
Starting point is 00:32:18 You will in that moment become a knower of good and bad. And that's a sneaky half-truth too because it's true. Yeah, totally. But it's a distorted knowing of good from bad. That's right. Because God just invited you to trust him to trust his command. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:36 So this phrase, you will be like Elohim, knowers of good and men. bad just always throws me from you. Because they are like Elohim. They're images of God. Yeah, that's right. And they are meant to know good from bad. Well, they are meant to rule and steward creation as God's partners,
Starting point is 00:32:56 which will involve making calls about good or bad. They don't yet make calls between good and bad like Elohim does. But that's the riddle of the command, because the command seems as if God is saying,
Starting point is 00:33:11 I don't want you to have the knowledge of good and bad. Right, don't eat it. But the command itself is the first lesson about knowing good from bad. Namely, that you will know good from bad, not by following your desire or your eyes, or what you perceive as good, the most reliable source will be from the divine command. And if you begin to let that teach you,
Starting point is 00:33:32 now we're going to actually begin to learn true good from bad. At least I think that's the logic of the story. Okay. So, verse six, and the woman saw that the tree was good for eating. Because all the trees were that. Mm-hmm. Okay. And that it was an object of longing for the eyes.
Starting point is 00:33:55 And the tree was desirable for making wise. Okay. So three ways is kind of saying the same thing. Yeah. Remember, it was just two ways before. Desirable to see. Good for eating. Good to eat.
Starting point is 00:34:06 That was the word Hamad, or Nehmad. And that is used here in Genesis 36 for the third description for desirable to make one wise. That's that word Hamad. The second thing for the eyes, it's a new word. Oh, it was desirable for the eyes. And here it's object of longing. Yeah, an object, a ta'ava. Ta'ava.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Ta'ava. So ta'avah and nekhad are the two key Hebrew words for desire. No synonyms? There's synonyms, but ta'avah speaks more like our English word craving. longing, it speaks to the physical experience of desire in a way that's a little more visceral. More primal. Hamad is certainly connected to our bodies, but it is speaking more, I think, to the, a little more to the mental. Like our mental imagination a bit.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Yeah, imagination. Yeah. So Hamad desire is about your imagination. Ta'avah is about the physical impulse. The impulse. like when you see the food, and you're really hungry. Yeah. There's an appetite.
Starting point is 00:35:12 When you smell the food cooking. That's right. And you salivate. That's a ta'avad. That's right. So that smell, obviously the eyes are a activator. Yeah. A physical longing for food and for sex and for pleasure, for comfort, right?
Starting point is 00:35:29 You see a mansion that's not yours. So that physical, the thing happens in your stomach. Right? When you want something? Okay. That's here. Okay. So first notice, notice the order.
Starting point is 00:35:43 When back here, when the trees were introduced, it was every tree was desirable to see and good to eat. So seeing, then eating. Okay. Because you can see something and then just be like, that looks good, but I don't need it. I'm good. Yeah. And it can be good. It can be good and I can be good without eating it.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Notice how eating is second. Okay. Now, in this scene, what she first perceives and sees is that it's good for eating. The order has been swapped. Okay. So the first thing she sees is about what it is in relation to me. Okay. The good needs to come into me.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Right. I think that's significant. In other words, because you can see something that's desirable and just be like, that is so rad that exists in the world. And if I take it, I'll screw it up. Yeah, but I don't have to eat it. It can just be. It can just be.
Starting point is 00:36:41 But it is noticing you'll see something that's good. It'll excite the desire. And then you'll want to consume it. And here, what she sees and notices first is what that thing is in relation to mind. I'm going to eat that thing. Yeah. That thing is for me to eat. She doesn't notice that it's beautiful and good, but that I don't have to have it.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Okay. The first thing she sees is what it is in a relationship to me. I can eat that. And it would be good for me to eat that. And when I see it, I crave it. Crive it. I need it. So, okay, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:37:19 So you're saying when seeing is first, you can see and desire it, but it can stay neutral. And then when eating's first, the seeing becomes this impulsive kind of craving. Craving, that's right. Where you aren't letting it be neutral. you're just like. Yeah. Yeah, maybe it's the difference between I'm hungry. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:37:40 And I'm riding my bike home. This is actually a real experience I sometimes have riding home. I've worked all day here in the studio. And if I ride my bike up Ankeny Street, I'm going by all of the restaurants. Some of the best restaurants in Portland are a block parallel to my bike ride home. Right? And I'm just like, oh, my gosh, that smells so good. And I'm hungry.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Yeah. Like, my mom want to go home and we're going to start dinner. So it's kind of like that. But so it's that difference of I smell that it is good. It excites my desire. But I can say, that can be good for all the people in there right now. But I've got a good thing that I'm going home for. That's what's good for me right now.
Starting point is 00:38:20 But here, it's inverted. And it's just the moment you smell it, you're just like, I need tacos. That's mine. That needs to be mine. Tacos in my belly. That is mine. Yeah, it's that different.
Starting point is 00:38:32 See, there's some distance. Like, I can distance myself to say, that is good, but I don't need that right now. And the swapping of the order, I think, here in Genesis 3-6 is telling us that... That can get inverted, which screws you up. You can begin through habit, I think, mental habit, begin to relate to any object. And the moment you see it, you're just like, need that. Need that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:57 That's mine. It can begin, I think, to develop a distorted way of relating. to things that are good. Yeah. Your first impulse is to just take it. Isn't that what a cookie monster is? Really? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I just keep thinking of the cookie monster. Yeah. Cookie is for me. C is for cookie. And cookie is for me. Cookies not for anybody else. Just mow on cookies. Cookies not just for the shelf to be tasty and good without me having to eat it.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Cookie is for me. This is three, six, right here. Okay. The woman saw the cookie, and the cookie is for me. Yeah, that's it. All right. So, of course, she took from its fruit, and she ate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:44 And then, of course, she gave to her husband, who was right there the whole time. We'd find out now for the first. Can we talk about the third part, though? It was desirable for making wise. Oh, oh, oh, thank you. Thank you. Because the impulse of being wise is a good thing. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:40:00 This is my skill, or hot. This is positive everywhere else in the Hebrew Bible. It's the way to find success through your decision-making process, to find the way forward that leads to goodness. But what's interesting is what you were told, the tree is connected to knowing good and bad. And knowing good and bad is crucial for making wise decisions that lead to a good outcome.
Starting point is 00:40:25 So in this sense, she's not wrong. Yeah. She should have gone the opposite direction. Okay, I want to be wise. I desire to be wise. That object looks like it's good. But do I need to eat it? Actually, no, God said don't eat it. Yeah. Yeah. So what defines wisdom? Is wisdom defined by following God's command and assuming God is wiser than I am? Or this tree represents a decision and the moment I take it, I'm striking out of my own and declaring, that's how, that's wisdom. Wisdom is following my desire.
Starting point is 00:41:01 And if I follow my desires, if I be true to my most authentic, right, desire, then that is wisdom. That's so tricky because in some cases that's true. That is the baseline God gives. But in some cases, it's not true. But then how do you know when it's not true? And the only thing is the command. So is it God's command that gives wisdom or is it following my desire? So this sets up the fundamental dilemma, I think, of the human story.
Starting point is 00:41:34 And to me, this has been so important over the years because this isn't a moment of like, hmm, depraved rebellion. Hmm. It's not a... It didn't kill anyone. It is a fail. The word sin means moral failure.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Okay. So it is a failure to not do what God said or to do what God said not to do. So it is, the word sin, in his accurate description. It's not used in the story, but it is an accurate description. Yeah, but it's not like armed rebellion. It's not. They're not like, you know what, we're fed
Starting point is 00:42:07 up with you, God. They're culpable because they heard what God said, so they're accountable to that, but it's not like they have a broad life experience to draw on and they are willfully, they're stupid, they're foolish. This is
Starting point is 00:42:23 an act of folly. Like they don't even know what death is. experientially. Yeah. So they're depicted. And again, not knowing good and bad is the state of children. They're naive. They're easily deceived.
Starting point is 00:42:36 So it's with Kane in the next story that we're going to start getting into, God just told me this is bad. What is bad is taking the life of another. I'm mad. I'm going to kill my brother. Then we start getting more into a little more culpable. But this is, I think, depicted the fundamental human condition is that we don't know. We are ignorant. We don't know what's good for ourselves. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:03 And our desires sometimes point us to what it's good, but not always. But we need to know this if we're going to ever get ahead. And this is the moment in the story that's saying, like, humans from right as far back as we can possibly tell are pretty much trapped in folly and ignorance and being misdirected by their good desires. Good desires can lead to bad ends. And it's a problem that every human and every generation of humans seems to grapple with. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:36 What's the way out? What's the solution, even if humans don't seem to listen to it? It's God's command. God's command leads to life, even when it doesn't seem like it. This is fundamental stuff. Okay, where we're going to go from here is then trace, just overview real quick, a couple key moments where God also tells some people what to do.
Starting point is 00:44:01 He tells Noah or no sons, one specific thing about murder, and then he tells Abraham to do all kinds of things. And that is going to introduce all these twists because Abraham sometimes doesn't do, sometimes does, and sometimes half does. and what happens in all those combinations. And then we'll get to Mount Sinai where God tells a whole bunch of things to do and not do to the Israelites.
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