BibleProject - Joshua: The New Adam and Moses – Numbers E8

Episode Date: September 19, 2022

As Moses’ death draws near, Yahweh selects Joshua to lead the people of Israel. What made Joshua uniquely qualified to lead? How does his leadership differ from Moses’? In this episode, join Tim a...nd Jon as they discuss how the Hebrew Bible depicts Joshua as a new Adam, a new Moses, and a precursor to the Messiah himself.View full show notes from this episode →Timestamps Part one (00:00-15:08)Part two (15:08-37:33)Part three (37:33-49:43)Part four (49:43-1:04:16)Referenced ResourcesThe Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of the Old Testament, Ludwig Koehler and Walter BaumgartnerInterested in more? Check out Tim’s library here.You can experience the literary themes and movements we’re tracing on the podcast in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Show Music “Defender (Instrumental)” by TENTS“I Main Samus Now" by Sleepy Fish"Empty Me Out" by Liz Vice"I'll Pray for You" by XihcsrThis episode was produced by Cooper Peltz with Associate Producer Lindsey Ponder. It was edited by Dan Gummel, Tyler Bailey, and Frank Garza. MacKenzie Buxman provided the annotations for our annotated podcast in our app.Powered and distributed by Simplecast.

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Starting point is 00:00:36 As we near the end of the number scroll, Yahweh leads Moses to the top of the mountain, where he can look out onto the land that is promised to Israel. A new garden land. A land he will not personally get to enter. Then Yahweh selects Moses' protege, the new leader of Israel. Because the congregation are like animals that need a shepherd. The job goes to a man named Joshua. A man described as being filled with the spirit of wisdom. Now there's only three other times in the Hebrew Bible where the spirit of wisdom
Starting point is 00:01:09 fills a human. The third time that this phrase appears in Isaiah 11, describing a future branch, a little offshoot from the family line of David that will sprout up one day in the future. And this figure is going to bring justice on the nations, bring peace between humans and animals, and he's going to bring God's people to dwell so that there is no pain or destruction in all God's holy mountain, because all the earth will be filled up with knowing Yahweh. You see so far it's been Moses who shines with God's splendor. Moses mediates between God and man. Moses is the leader who will rescue Israel.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Moses is the closest we've gotten to a delivering Messiah. But now that torch is being passed to Joshua. And so now Joshua is going to be the next main character on the stage who starts filling out even more The portrait of the kind of deliver that God's people need to bring them into the land to plant them in the new Eden land I'm John Collins. This is Bible project podcast today We continue the third movement of the scroll of numbers and I need to apologize in advance as you listen You'll hear that
Starting point is 00:02:25 I was dealing with some sickness. Thanks for joining us. Here we go. Hello Tim. Hey John, hi there. We are in the scroll of numbers. And we are in the third movement of the scroll of numbers. And we only have a couple more conversations left before we need to be done. That's right. With numbers and move on to the last scroll in the Torah, Deuteronomy. We're moving towards the end of the whole Torah, really. It's been a fun exploration through the Torah. Yeah. It seems like we're just landing down in these movements on specific stories,
Starting point is 00:03:11 trying to give a shape of like what's going on overall. Yep, in this section. In this section, but then just really landing on some specifics and actually reading them and talking about them. And so that's what we've been doing here in numbers where in the third movement, we landed down and just read that first story after the census of the daughters of Zellovhad.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Zellovhad. It's a tough one. Yeah. Yeah, big picture. The number scroll has three big movements. It begins at Mount Sinai, where they are arranging the camp of the tribes around the Tabernacle, where God dwells right in the center, and then they leave Mount Sinai. The center movement of numbers is about the journey through the wilderness, and it's a collection of multiple rebellion narratives that keep increasing in intensity, both in who rebels. In other words, it's not from the people to the leaders to like the most important leaders, and the fallout and the consequences keep getting more intense so that eventually the whole generation that was rescued from Egypt and slavery dies off in the wilderness. And so here in this last movement, it's that next generation that's being instructed about the wisdom of God
Starting point is 00:04:38 that they need to live by as they are getting ready to go into the new Eden land. And that's this last section that we call numbers 26 through 36. Okay. And it began with the census that matches the first movement of numbers, showing that numbers itself is its own little chiasm. And then the story of the daughters of Zalakhad
Starting point is 00:04:59 who come and say, hey, our dad didn't have any boys. Yes. Which would mean by the law that we have currently, our father's clan won't inherit any land. And that seems like an injustice. And Moses is like, yeah, let me check on that. And sure enough, God's like, yep, that would be an injustice.
Starting point is 00:05:20 They're right, those daughters can inherit land, like a son. Yeah, so that was the last story we looked at. And then the story of the daughters is completed by another story that's forward-looking, which is not about the new wisdom that God's people will need to live in the land, but it's about the new leadership that God's people will need in the new Eden land. And that's the story that begins in Numbers chapter 27 verse 12, a little what might feel obscure corner of the Torah that actually has huge significance for where the story of the Hebrew Bible is going.
Starting point is 00:05:59 And maybe just to recall the name of Joshua, whose key figure here in this little story, is the Hebrew name that's at the root of Jesus, of Nazareth's name. Yes, Yeshua. Yeah, so the longer form in Hebrew is Yehoshua. Yehoshua. Yehoshua, which is a combination of the divine name, Yahweh, and then,
Starting point is 00:06:23 Yahweh, okay. Well, Yahweh, but when you take off the way at the end and then stick the short form of Yahweh on the beginning of another word, the Yahweh turned into Yahweh. Anyway, it's Semitic Diffthongs. You know those Semitic Diffthongs. And then the Oshua comes from the Hebrew root, Yahah or Yashah, and it's the word to deliver, we're to rescue. So Yahweh rescues, this guy's name, and then they got shortened both in Hebrew and then an Aramaic to Yashua. And then Yashua got rendered into Greek as Yezus, and then it got rendered into Latin and then Rom into Greek as Jesus, and then it got rendered into Latin
Starting point is 00:07:07 and then Romance languages as Jesus. Yeah, Jesus. So actually, when you can hear that name pronounced, like in Spanish today, it's Jesus, which sounds much more like the Greek form, Jesus to Jesus, anyway, there you go. Yehoshua to Yeshua. Yeshua to Jesus. Anyway, there you go. Yo, Hoshua to Yeshua. Yes, Yeshua. To Jesus. Jesus to Jesus.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Yeah. Wow. What will your name one day be in 2000 years from now? That's a great question. I think the most interesting one is how Jacob turned into James. Well, that was just a full pivot. Yeah, yeah. But it was still, it was linguistic development, where the cuck of Jacob still survives. I think it's in Italian, Yakima, but it became silent in other romance languages, which is where you get like in Spanish, Jaime. I thought King James just wanted his name in the Bible.
Starting point is 00:08:07 No, it's urban legend. Oh, that's an urban legend. I believe so many urban legends. It's ridiculous. Yeah. I believe that one too for a long time. In Scott McKnight's, super dense, no stone unturned James commentary. He has a long, long footnote on the linguistic development from Jacob to James.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Super interesting. At least I thought so. The nerdy to think linguistic footnotes are fascinating. Yes, it is nerdy, but I'm used to it. Okay, anyway, numbers, chapter 27, verse 12, then Yahweh said to Moses, go up to this mountain of Aurem, which is an actual mountain or hill somewhere on the east side of the Jordan River, but it's a word play, because Aurem is spelled with the same letters as those passing on, which is a Hebrew euphemism for, like a similar to our English past way.
Starting point is 00:09:09 So go up to the mountain of passing away and see the land that I've given to the sons of Israel. And when you see it, you will be gathered to your people just like Aaron. Your brother was. And why? Moses, let me remind you, in the wilderness of Zine during the Maryva, Hebrew word, it's the word that means fight or quarrel. During the quarrel of the congregation, you rebelled against my word and didn't treat me as holy before the eyes of the people there at the water. And we talked about that story two episodes ago.
Starting point is 00:09:48 We did. That's right. So in other words, this is Moses' suffering servant moment where he is going to die, both because of the sins of the people and also for his own sinful rebellion. And he's told to go up to a mountain and look at the land that God is going to give, not to him, but to the descendants of Abraham. This is a little hyperlank right here. To Genesis chapter 13. Oh, and Abraham surveys the land?
Starting point is 00:10:13 Mm-hmm. Yeah, this is Genesis 13 for sort team. Yahweh said to Abraham, after lot separated from him, now lift up your eyes and look from the place where you are and he's up on hill near a place called Hebron. Look from the place where you are north, south, east, west at all the land that you see that I will give to you and your descendants forever. So the analogy is just as Abraham was given a promise of the future Eden land for his descendants. So now Moses is being given the gift
Starting point is 00:10:48 of seeing the land that's going to be given to the sons of Abraham, but not him. He's going to die with the wilderness generation. But then Moses, he has something to say about that. Moses spoke to saying, oh Yahweh, the Elohim of the spirits of all flesh. Would you please appoint a man over the congregation? And a dumb? Yeah. So what a weird way to say this request. Is it weird? I don't know. It's in Hebrew. Maybe that's just how they talk. Well, okay, but what he could have just said is, hey, Yahweh, please appoint a new ruler. A successor. Yeah. Why does he say Yahweh, the Elohim that gives spirit
Starting point is 00:11:36 to all flesh, may you appoint a man over the congregation? This is a good example of a phrase you're like, why is that there? Yeah, and that's Genesis 2, right? Exactly right. Where God breathes. His nafak? Yeah, exhales his breath into the dirt, to give life to the human. So this is a good example of, I mean, I could show you two dozen other little random or oddly phrased or placed things in the section of numbers that are all little Eden hyperlinks. So what Moses is saying is, listen, I'm going to die outside of the new Eden land. I don't get to go in. But could you please, by your spirit, give life to a flesh person? And what he says is, you are the God who brought
Starting point is 00:12:27 life out of non-life, right? Who gives life. Yeah. And that, you know, this goes back to that we started this whole journey, movement by movement through the Torah in Genesis, one through 11, tracing the pattern of spirit. Correct. And it was really cool to kind of see in the biblical imagination, the framework of God's spirit, not only being involved in creating order and sustaining the order of creation, but then also being what is giving life and sustaining life for all BIOS, like for humans and animals, and it's just a pretty remarkable way to look out into the world and to imagine this is all being sustained by gods.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Yeah. Rewach. Yeah, pervasive presence. And that all sustaining presence is the focus of God's spirit, hovering in the dark waters in Genesis 1, in the 7-day narrative. In the Eden narrative, which is a complement sitting right next to the 7-day narrative, but works on a different time frame, it focuses in and it shows the role of God's breath in
Starting point is 00:13:39 animating and empowering one particular creature to become a representative in the Eden space to mirror God's life and character to the animals and the creatures. And that Eden image is actually it's both because what Moses says is God you give Ruach to all flesh. So that's Genesis one of like God's spirit is what sustains all life and being. But then it's also Genesis 2 where it's he's gonna say so appoint a human. Come and fill a human. Yeah, like appoint one particular a new human. Hmm. Who will be over the congregation and then he's about to describe the congregation like animals.
Starting point is 00:14:21 That need a human overseer. So in terms of the melody, we're back at then the beginning of the melody. God is recreating order, numbering the tribes. Yeah, so the numbering of the tribes is the fruitful and multiply. That's the role of the census place. The abundance of Genesis 1, and now we're getting to where then he's going to appoint a human. The Daughters of Zellofchad is about God appointing male and female to oversee the land together. Yeah, it's just Genesis 1. And now, in terms of this section, what you're noting, and this is true.
Starting point is 00:14:57 The biblical authors often organize stories where burlows or material following the sequence of ideas in Genesis 1 through 9. and that's what the section is doing. What you call the melody. So now we're recalling God animating a particular creature to oversee the animals in the New Eden land. Oh, okay. What is that? Oh, it's interesting. God, oh, Elohim of the spirits of all flesh, appoint a man over the congregation who
Starting point is 00:15:53 will go out and come in in front of them. That little phrase go out and come in is a figure of speech for leading the people out and leading them in. Okay. In fact, that's what he says next, who will lead them out and bring them in so that Yahweh's congregation won't be like sheep who have no shepherd. Ruler of the animals.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Yeah. In this case, the animals are, yeah. Or all the other people. Totally. Yeah, people are like sheep. And what they need is an overseer. And in Eden, that was Adam and Eve. And now here, we need a human who will do that.
Starting point is 00:16:25 So Yahweh's response to Moses is, man, you know, you've got your boy. Not his actual son, but he's become like his protege, take your Hoshua, the son of noon, a man in whom is the spirit. I've actually already been working with this guy. God's been, what do you say, developing Joshua. And this is the culmination of a whole set of kind of random mentions of Joshua in the Torah up to this point.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Right, he was one of the 12 spies. That's where you first met him maybe. Even more particular, this is a great example. He first appears out of nowhere in the book of Exodus. That's right. He must have been young. Yeah, in that story about when Moses has to go up on the hill and hold the staff up high, what Israel's fighting,
Starting point is 00:17:17 and enemy that was trying to mug them in the wilderness. Joshua is the one leading the people out in battle. So the first time you meet Joshua, he's leading the people into battle. Where God rescues them through Jasha's leadership. The second time he appears, you're told that Jasha went up with Moses to the top of Mount Sinai. It's really interesting. Oh, that's right. Yeah, but he didn't go all the way up, right?
Starting point is 00:17:44 Well, there's really interesting. Oh, that's right. Yeah, but he didn't go all the way up, right? Well, there's an ambiguity. Because what God said to Moses was, Hey, you and the elders, an Aaron go up to the middle of the mountain and Joshua. And then when God says the Moses, Hey, Moses, you come up, what the narrator says is, Moses got up with Joshua, his servant,
Starting point is 00:18:00 and Moses went up to the mountain of God. And you're like, well, why did Joshua get up? So it's a suggestive little ambiguity. And then when Moses is coming down the mountain with the tablets in his hands at the Golden Calfs story, all of a sudden, Joshua is like with him as he comes down the mountain. You're like, wait, what? Why is he there? It's, yeah, it's really interesting.
Starting point is 00:18:25 And then Joshua appears, yeah, he's one of the spies in numbers who believe that God could deliver them. And then here we are right here. So he is a suggestive character who's always like, right next to Moses, he's right with Moses. And what you learn is that Joshua is empowered by the same spirit that Moses is empowered with. So lay your hand on him.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Oh, this is what people bringing sacrificial animals do to the animal when they surrender them at the altar. In Leviticus, it talks about the laying on of hands. Yeah, the press. The press, the hand press. Yeah. That's right. Oh, that's funny. And- Because it kind of sounds like a press. That's right. That's funny. And-
Starting point is 00:19:06 Because it kind of sounds like a workout. The single hand press and then you get the double hand press. But as symbolism, that's intuitive of commissioning a representative. Like, I have point this person to represent me. So lay your hand on him and have Joshua stand before Elazar the priest and all the congregation and you will command him in their sight. You shall take some of your...oh this is interesting, I forgot about this. So I'm reading the New American Standard right now, I'm reading the New American Standard right now. Numbers 27, 20, it says, you Moses put some of your authority on him
Starting point is 00:19:48 so that the congregation of Israel may obey him. But they have a little footnote that says, or literally, the Hebrew word means majesty. Would this be connected to the word glory then? Yeah, it's the word, hood, which is talking about the visible splendor or majestic or royal appearance of a royal figure. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Ah, in Psalm 8, what is human that you take care of him, the son of human that you pay attention to him? You have given human majesty. It's that word. A little lesser than the heavenly beings. Yes. The word Hode, it appears, what?
Starting point is 00:20:33 24 times in the Hebrew Bible. And in the Psalms, this word consistently describes God's appearance when he's depicted as the king of the skies, sitting on a heavenly throne closed. Offer translated splendor. Splendor, yes, yeah. So here, okay, and this is connected to all the little links to Joshua before in the Torah. What he says is, take some of your hoed, your splendor,
Starting point is 00:20:59 your royal splendor. That's what it actually means in Hebrew. So here, let's look at other translations. The English Standard Version says, invest him with some of your authority. Ah, that's interesting. Definitely interpreting there. New international version. This is 27, 20. Give him some of your authority. Yeah, all of them have been authorities with All of them are really into the authority. King James. Ooh, thou shalt put some of thine honor on him.
Starting point is 00:21:33 We're getting a little closer there. Good job, King James. Clearly, it's put some of your majesty on him. So one, this assumes that Moses somehow has some radiating, Splendiferous Majesty. Splendiferous. I just made that word up. Well, I think I've heard it, but I think it's made up for it.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Sounds like a Calvin and Hobbs word. And you know, we know of Moses' Splendor, don't we? It's an object of meditation in the biblical story so far. You remember this? Of course, you love this moment in Exodus. Yeah. Although you ruined it for me a little bit. With the horns. With that ruined it for you.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I mean, a little bit. Okay. I mean, it didn't ruin it. It made it more interesting, but like, Yeah. It kind of bothers me a little bit, actually. So in Exodus 34, when Moses comes down from the mountain, and remember, Joshua was just suddenly right there with him.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Yeah. And strangely, seems like he gets up to go up the mountain with him too. It's really the narrative leaves it intentionally ambiguous. Anyhow, when Moses eventually does come down in Exodus 34, what we're told is that the skin of his face, and then the Hebrew word is Karan, which is the verb of the Hebrew noun Karan, which means horn, like animal horn.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Yeah. Yeah. So, on one level, the skin of his face sent out horns. Yeah. Which, and I, maybe I wasn't clear, I think it's a figure of speech. Oh, is it? I just like, you're not supposed to imagine him like turning into a cedar or something
Starting point is 00:23:16 at this moment. So here's the thing, is that this verb, oh, this verb appears. Oh yeah, one other time, to talk about an animal actually sprouting horns, a bowl growing horns. So this verb is used, can be used literally to grow horns. However, the noun horn, which almost always refers to animal horns, does on one occasion,
Starting point is 00:23:41 and I'm looking in the Hebrew-America lexicon, the Old Testament, I call her Bomb Gardener. Oh, yes, okay. There is one, I should have brought this up back when we talked about this, back in Exodus. In Hebachic chapter 3, verse 4, the noun horn is used to talk about rays of the sun that flash out like Keren, like it's the plural, Karnayum, horns. Like a flash of light is described as a literally in Hebak 3, 4, as a horn of light.
Starting point is 00:24:13 So is it a hominem? Maybe? Like, it's not, it doesn't actually relate to animal horns. It just sounds like the same word, but it means brilliance or shining. I think that what it speaks to is the human perception of light beams or light rays. I mean, most times you look at the sun and you don't see light rays. Yeah, you're right. But sometimes you do. Oh. And that's like, yeah, like when you draw a sun as a kid, there you go. You draw those little horns around it. Yeah, the little spikes.
Starting point is 00:24:46 The radiance. Yeah, the radiance. Oh, no. And then Hebrew, the noun used to describe animal horns is used to describe the radiance. I clearly did not make that clear enough when we're not land for me now. Okay, well, this is a hyperlink back. Okay. This podcast hyperlink.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Really settled that for me, thank you. I was getting creeped out by like the satir Moses coming down and But my point back in that conversation in Exodus was the use of the word Karan There's many words for shine. Yeah, that the biblical author could have used an Exodus 34 Okay, and that the choice of used in Exodus 34. And the choice of emit horns is intentional because one as a way of depicting the light, but also as a way of depicting Moses as a sacrificial animal. Oh, that's right. Because he has already suffered and surrendered his life on behalf of the people in this
Starting point is 00:25:41 very story. Yeah. It's like an intended double meaning, I guess what I'm saying. Anyway. So, that is the only other story that comes to mind in the Torah that could possibly be what's referred to. This is the Hode. Yep.
Starting point is 00:25:58 And here in Numbers 27, God says, you shall put some of your hood on him, Moses. And the hood means a visible manifestation of a royal figure's majesty, power and beauty. Splendor. Hm. Which is not like a visible thing. It's like, it's an aura of sorts. aura? Yeah. This is how the high priest had hood too.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And they shimmered with gold and jewels and emeralds. That's true. Any ruler is gonna have just majestic robes and shiny metal on them. And yeah, they're gonna hoed. You can hoed. So one point here is that Joshua is being depicted as a new Moses.
Starting point is 00:26:41 So put some of your splendor on him so that the people listen to him. Just like they listen to you. Now they're going to listen to him. So Joshua is depicted as a new Moses. In the same way, Joshua is depicted as a new Adam from the link up above. Oh, Elohim of the spirits who give spirit to all flesh appoint a human over the congregation. Yeah. Because the congregation are like animals that need a shepherd. So this is the narrative's way of depicting Joshua as a new Adam and as a new Moses. And lo and behold, it's interesting that the ideal human figure is depicted as a,
Starting point is 00:27:20 like in the high priest, as a shiny shimmery figure. And then Moses is depicted as a shiny shimmery figure, and then Moses is depicted as a shiny shimmery figure. And so Joshua here is depicted as someone with the splendor of Moses too. Yeah. So awesome. Authority isn't too far off in the sense of if you're thinking just about biblical patterns. Yeah. Like why a point, an Adam to rule and have authority. That was the logic of the Bitcoin narrative. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Yeah, authority isn't, what do you say? It's not a wrong translation. It's an English word that doesn't get you the visible splendor and element of meaning. Yeah, to hide that meaning. Yeah, totally. Whereas if you put the word majesty, I think this is why the new American standard had a footnote
Starting point is 00:28:05 with majesty. Because it would sound odd, but I think that's the point here. It's an intentional oddity meant to invite the reader to meditate. Okay, verse 21, he, that is Joshua, God's still speaking to Moses, he will stand in front of Elias R. the priest, who will inquire for him by the judgment or decisions given by the Urem before Yahweh. What is that? We've never talked about the Urem, did we? Okay, this is so great. All right, so up to this point, Joshua is depicted as a new Moses. So up to this point, Joshua is depicted as a new Moses. But now this is interesting.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Let's say Joshua ends up in a scenario where he doesn't fully know what to do. What would Moses do? He'd go up the mountain. Yeah, like in the story right before this one. He would just go into the tent and consult Yahweh. Here, Joshua is a new Moses. Oh, that's right. He doesn't have to go to Mount Nemoar, he's going to be here. But let's say Joshua needs to make a decision, he doesn't know what to do. His way of consulting Yahweh is to go to the
Starting point is 00:29:12 High Priest, Elazar, and the High Priest will make an inquiry for him. How? By the decision of the Orem. The Orem. So, if you're like we're about to uncover some conspiracy. This is so cool. No, this is rad, this rad stuff. So, this is a hyperlink back. Have been controlling us all. To the high priest garments in Exodus.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Remember, two long chapters about the high priest clothing. Exodus 28, 29. And when the special breastplate with the jewels representing the 12 tribes of Israel, there was to be this little pouch tucked into the back of the breastplate. I don't know why this is so easy. I don't know why. I actually don't know why. I just, the stuff the Bible makes you meditate on and in that little pouch are to be two little objects that in Exodus 28 verse 30 I called the ooreem and the to meme. The word ooreem is the Hebrew word for lights. What what lights like lights lamps. Okay, candle lights. So this is the Genesis one. That word is ma'or. It's the same meaning.
Starting point is 00:30:29 There's two ways to use the word light to spell lamp. You can say uhr or you can say ma'or. But both mean light. And both recall the light of day one of Genesis. Yeah. So the uhrim is the plural. Sort of light. And it's the plural.
Starting point is 00:30:45 So lights. And then toomim is the Hebrew word for complete. Or the King James translates this lights and perfections. The lights and perfections. So most of our English translations actually straight up don't translate these Hebrew words, which is why we have urem and toomim in some modern translations. They just spell them with English letters. This feels very sorcery.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Yeah, it feels very like, divination kind of stuff. Yeah, the lots. And the Bible talks about casting lots. These are them. These are the lots. These are the lots, yeah. They're called lights and perfection.
Starting point is 00:31:20 They're called lights and perfection. And a lot technically is, what would it technically be? Yeah, the word lot is a Hebrew word go raw, but both the Urem and Tumim and the go raw, because Joshua is going to use these to actually divide up the promised land. And there's this deep conviction, and there's proverbs about this in the book of proverbs, that people cast lots, but the decision comes from Yahweh. Right. So, yeah, this was a way to hear from God of discerning the will of God by the priests and early
Starting point is 00:31:58 as relight leaders. Yeah. There you go. Sometimes, it's like the previous chapter, right? You have to use your mind or you take a case before Yahweh, right? Like the Daughters of Zellof-Had. Yeah. Other times it requires asking for a sign and a symbol in this case by rolling the lots.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Yeah. And both are ways that people in the Hebrew Bible discern the will of God. You know, it sounds weird to us. I think it's not dissimilar from moments when people reach where they don't know what God wants them to do, where there's a decision. Yeah. And so they ask essentially for God to give a providential sign. Yeah. And that's an equivalent, I think. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like,, like okay Lord if you feel like I should Move towards this opportunity or take this thing then I'm just gonna trust you like open the door to that opportunity or
Starting point is 00:32:54 close the store and Whatever happens you could look at from right the perspective of just pure chance cause effect operations chaos theory Right? The perspective of just pure chance cause effect operations chaos theory. But I think committing to a theistic view of the world is that through the nearly infinite numbers of cause and effect chain patterns in the world, that there is some sort of underlying purpose moving forward. And so if that's asking for a sign about whether you should take a job and asking God to order their circumstances or rolling the uri-mertune name, it's kind of the two ways of doing the same thing.
Starting point is 00:33:34 At least I think so. God gave the high priest like Magic the Gathering dice. Yep. Essentially. Yeah, totally. It's kind of crazy. It is. So notice, essentially. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:33:46 It's kind of crazy. It is. So, notice, okay. So, that's the Riemann's tourmium. But what's fascinating here is Joshua has been depicted as being a protégé of Moses, a like Moses, but also unlike Moses. Right? Moses, never shown his role in the Riemann tourmium.
Starting point is 00:34:04 He just goes into the tent, speaks face to face with Yahweh. But Joshua is a new Moses, but also a lesser than Moses. It's like Moses is the high point, and now the Moses role is being split out into two figures, the high priest. And the high priest goes into the tent, and who stands outside the tent and he represents the royal role of Moses, whereas the high priest represents the priestly role of Moses. Isn't this interesting? You know what it's actually more like than give me a sign.
Starting point is 00:34:34 It's more like rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Rock, paper, I think so. I settled so many things with my camera. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? It's like, yeah. I don't know. Let's just rock. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? It's like, yeah. All right, I don't know. Let's just.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Yeah, sure. All right, paper scissors shoot for it. And um, but I've ever done significant decisions that way. Hmm. Like usually those are like, ah, it doesn't matter. Who could be this, could be that. Let's do rock paper scissors. I see.
Starting point is 00:35:00 But like, you know, my kids aren't making super significant decisions in their lives. It's like who gets the controller right now? Totally. Yeah. Yeah. No, yeah. Even though this seems dice or associated with games for us, this is like, you know, should we go into battle or not?
Starting point is 00:35:24 Should we settle in this valley or in that valley? Like those were the decisions, little higher stakes. Yeah, that's kind of nuts that they would leave that to dice, essentially, instead of, why not take a vote? So I agree with you. This is fascinating. This is an example wherein the Hebrew Bible, the ritual practices that ancient Israel engages in, I'll be more specific, the ritual practices that are commanded by God
Starting point is 00:35:52 to Israel are at home in their ancient and their eastern context. Yeah, they wouldn't have thought it was weird. Rolling sacred dice. And then there were other forms of essentially divination and omens, so not by consulting spirits of the dead, but by often it was taking a sacrificial animal, removing its liver after you slaughter it. And then they actually have these like liver dishes. They would make a plaster mold of a liver in the shape of a liver. And then they would elevate an actual liver, like a warm fresh liver, and then drop it onto the mold plate.
Starting point is 00:36:31 And however, the liver kind of splattered and fell into chunks and pieces would be a sign of communication from the gods. Wait, and they did this in the Bible? No, no, no, I'm saying Israel's neighbors did this. Israel's neighbors did this. The practice is described in the book of Ezekiel as something the king of Babylon does. To determine which city he's going to attack in a campaign. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:36:57 It's really interesting. So the Ancient Erys was filled with different ritual practices for discerning the will of the gods. One of them was rolling sacred dice, and that is mirrored here in the practice of Eurim and the Thumim. And you know, I guess to take this up within a larger biblical framework or the biblical story, it's another element where God accommodates, where contextualizes his relationship to Israel to their cultural context. And so the Eurium and the Thumbim were viewed as a way that God would accommodate to a
Starting point is 00:37:30 practice they knew, but then also actually use it for his providential purposes. At least I think that's what we're supposed to conclude. I'm going to have a good time in this little story about Joshua. I like this. Okay. So Moses does, just as Lord commands, he took Joshua, he set him in front of Ellie as our the priest, before all the congregation, he laid his hands on him and commissioned him, just as Lord spoke to Moses. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:23 So here's what's interesting. This last movement of numbers concludes the number scroll. The book of Deuteronomy is one long series of speeches of Moses that all take place in the course of one day. And so when you reach the last paragraph of Deuteronomy, this moment right here with Joshua is picked up again. Deuteronomy 34. Now Moses went up from the plains of Moab to the top of, and you're like, oh, the top of the Mount of Arem, right?
Starting point is 00:38:53 And here in Deuteronomy it's called to the top of Pesca, which is the name of an actual hill there too. And Yahweh showed him the land. Do you see we're doing the thing that numbers 27 said? Numbers 27 begin. I thought he already did that numbers 27. Oh, no, he said to go do it. Lord said Moses, there's numbers 27. Go up to this mountain of Avarim and see the land. Okay. Then Moses said, but hey, wait, appoint somebody. There's the Joshua thing. And then all you're told is Moses did is Yahweh commanded. He commissioned Joshua. So Deuteronomy 34 comes around and it actually, it's a backflash to the moment and then
Starting point is 00:39:38 fills it out even more. But it calls them out in something else. But it calls them out in by a different name. So go to Mount Nebo, the top of Pesca, and there, Yahweh showed him all the land. And that's not uncommon for a place to have two different names. Nope. No, it's not uncommon at all. It happens all the time in the Bible too.
Starting point is 00:39:58 What's interesting is he gets an outline of the land according to kind of the rough tribal allotments, Gilead, Dan, Naftali, Ephraim, Manassa, the land of Judah, the Negaev, he's looking from north all the way down to south. Yahweh said, this is the land that I swore to Abraham Isaac and Jacob. That's a nice hyperlink. And this is the last paragraph of the Torah, and it's hyperlinking back to the first scroll of the Torah, Genesis. Verse 5 of Somosis, the servant of Yahweh died there in the land, according to the word
Starting point is 00:40:33 of Yahweh. He buried him in the valley of the land of Moeb by Baitbaor, and no one knows where he's buried, not even till this very day. It's a clear that the speaking voice, the narrator, is some distance from the events. Yeah. Moses, who was 120 years old when he died, his eye was not dim, nor had his vigor abated. Literally, the word vigor there is juice. Moisture.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Holy. His moisture had not drained. He wasn't a dry old blind man. That could be what it means. I could also be referring to his reproductive fluids. Oh, okay. No, the rest of the was, you know, he was still... Even at 120, he was in his prime.
Starting point is 00:41:23 I think it's prime figure speech. So everybody weeps from Moses and then verse 9, this is really what I'm after here. Then Joshua the Son of Noon was filled with the spirit of wisdom, for Moses had laid his hands on him, and the sons of Israel listened to him as the Lord commanded Moses. So the ending of the Torah ends with the glowing hyperlink back to this commissioning scene and numbers. Yeah. And well, all that you observed, there's some significant little differences here. Uh, ooh. Okay. Oh, that's pop quiz. I'm giving you lots of pop quizzes, recently, I feel like. So remember Moses said, hey, you're the Elohim who gives Ruaach,
Starting point is 00:42:08 spirit, all flesh, a point of human. And then, yeah, he always says to Moses, this guy, Joshua, he's been hanging out with you and he's got the spirit. So, yeah, commission him. And then they do. And then they do, But notice the difference. And the difference here is, okay, then God gives him a spirit of wisdom. Yes. In Numbers 27,
Starting point is 00:42:31 he has the spirit, but he's here he's filled with the spirit of wisdom. Yeah, totally. So there's a difference between, I think, the numbers narrative is depicting Joshua as a new Adam. He has the spirit, so to speak, of like spirit level one. He's got the like life spirit that everyone has, as opposed to, but I seem like it was more than that. It did seem like it was more. Yeah. And then now we've revisited Joshua and the spirit, and he got even more on top of what seemed like a little more. And the new title for this aspect of God's Ruaach is crucially important because it is the spirit of wisdom. Which, this is a good chance. Ruaach Hochma is, sorry, I'll search in Hebrew. Oh, yeah, man. This is awesome. Isaiah 11, there it is.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Yeah, the phrase, spirit of wisdom, appears three times in the Hebrew Bible. Oh, only three times. Yeah. It appears to talk about an artist from the tribe of Judah, named Betzalau, whom God commissions to make the Eden tent.
Starting point is 00:43:43 That's excess training. And that's because Hokma means it's like it is an artisan ability to be able to like use materials wisely. That's right. Yeah. Or yeah, whatever one's craft is. Whatever one's craft is. You are proficient in hyper skill at it. Hokma. Okay. The second time the phrase spirit of wisdom appears in the Hebrew Bible is right here at the end of the Torah. It's what Joshua's filled with. But not to build a tabernacle, but to lead the people. To lead. Yeah. And to be the leader of a group of migrant people who are going to go settle in a land that's full of people who will oppose them and attack them, try to destroy them.
Starting point is 00:44:27 So that takes some skill. Keep a group of people alive, surrounded by people who want to kill you. The third time that this phrase appears is describing in Isaiah 11 describing a future branch, a little offshoot from the family line of David that will sprout up one day in the future, and the spirit of Yahweh will rest on him. No, I can't hear him. Yeah, it's no as name is a verb, and the spirit of wisdom and understanding the spirit of counsel and strength, the spirit of knowledge, and the fear of Yahweh.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Now, you, one time, I'm glad we're here because I've had this question. You've called this the sevenfold spirit, and I was back in here, and I was like only reading six. Wisdom, understanding, counsel, strength, knowledge, fear of the Lord. Oh, and then three pairs. That's right. But then the first one is the spirit of Yahweh. Okay, so if you count the spirit of Yahweh But it feels like the six are like Defining what the spirit of Yahweh is. Oh for sure. That's exactly right. Yeah, but in terms of the actual the number of times the word
Starting point is 00:45:38 Words associated with spirit the spirit of Spirit of Yahweh spirit of wisdom and of understanding. Okay. So yeah, total of seven, but in six traits. Six traits of what the spirit of Yahweh is. Yeah. Okay. And what's going to be interesting is this figure is going to go on to bring justice on the nations. A lot like what Joshua is going to do. Lead Israel to become God's vehicle of justice on the Canaanite tribes.
Starting point is 00:46:08 He's going to bring peace between humans and animals. This is Christmas card. You know, the wolf will dwell with the lamb. Little babies will play with snakes. And he's going to bring God's people to dwell so that there is no pain or destruction in all God's holy mountain. Because all the earth will be filled up with knowing Yahweh, like the waters cover the sea. That's Genesis 1 verse 2. So, yes, it's so cool. The spirit of Hokma links Joshua to then this like Messianic figure that Isaiah talks about. Yes. Years and years later, generations later, because Joshua is way before even the time of David, and then this is well past the time of David.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Yeah. So in other words, for the final compilers and shapers of the Hebrew Bible as a whole, they've arranged the story of Moses as the deliverer of Israel from their slavery, out of slavery through the wilderness on the way to the promised land. He's one portrait of a delivering figure in the Hebrew Bible. But now, even he failed. And so he's going to die outside the land. See, all of his stories of being God's arm of deliverance still stand there in the Torah, giving you a picture of the kind of leader that God's people need. But now that baton, or you could say, that torch is being passed to Joshua.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And so now Joshua is going to be the next main character on the stage who starts filling out even more the portrait of the kind of deliver that God's people need to bring them into the land and plant them in the new Eden land. And so we'll get from numbers all the way through Deuteronomy and Joshua. It'll be Joshua's story. But then he makes at least one mistake and then he's going to die. And you're like, oh man, I thought he was going to. All right. So now you have most of the story and Joshua's story. And they're clearly set on analogy to each other. And then you keep reading forward. This is how the Hebrew Bible works as Messianic literature. And then the judges will all give you crazy upside down inside out inverted portraits of the kind of leader we do or don't need. And then when you get to David, David will be the same, like a positive figure, but then huge failure in death. And so in the book of Isaiah, this future seed of David is described by using language of a new Adam.
Starting point is 00:48:48 So Garden of Eden language. He's described as a new Joshua, because he has the spirit of wisdom. When you're in Isaiah, that phrase, spirit of wisdom, takes you backwards to the Torah. So this future figure is described in terms of the language of Joshua and of Joshua's victory over You know hostile nations, but also described as a new Adam and then as you go on through the Isaiah scroll this Anticipated figure is depicted as a new Moses and as a new David Hmm, and this how the Hebrew Bible works. Yeah, so when you're in obscure or seems like a random little story in Numbers 27, how do you read a story like this?
Starting point is 00:49:30 And this is part of what we mean when we went through the paradigm discussions about reading the whole Hebrew Bible as Messianic literature. This story in Numbers 27 is one of a whole network of stories that light up throughout the Hebrew Bible, all interconnected and hyperlinked pointing to a future deliver figure. Alright, this is rad. I'm going to take us back. This is how these stories and numbers are designed according to the sequence of themes and ideas in Genesis 1 through 9, the melody. We just, with the census, God's people are fruitful and multiplied, that's Numbers 26. First part of Numbers 27 was about male and female, having responsibility of the land together,
Starting point is 00:50:38 daughters of Zalaf-Had. Second part of Numbers 27, appointing an Adam, a new human filled with the Spirit and splendor. Yeah, to rule the animals. To rule the animals, that is the people, in that land. So, hmm, I wonder what comes next. A test. Actually, that's true. But let's say, in this cycle through the themes, I wanted to round off like the, yeah, that would be awesome. Oh.
Starting point is 00:51:07 That would be beautiful. I would expect the number seven, like a seventh day rest. A seventh day rest. Because we're just painting the ideal picture here. Yeah. And the ideal pictures, like Genesis 1, culminate in the seventh day, dude. Numbers, chapters 28 and 29, are like the number seven on fractal steroids It's so crazy man. So it's the longest list of sacrificial offerings in the Hol Torah Hmm, it takes up all of chapter 28 and all of chapter 29, but it's just one list and
Starting point is 00:51:42 It's all about the offerings that the Israelites are to offer on the feast days. So Leviticus talked about categories of offerings that you bring in needs of the moment when I want to say thank you to God. Right. Right? When I want to say.
Starting point is 00:52:00 And it talks about when to do the feast days. Yes. Yeah. But it doesn't have the list about what offerings to make on what feast days. And why not keep it to this part of the Torah? Totally. So what we've done is we saved the list that could have been at home in Leviticus.
Starting point is 00:52:16 And by we, you mean the... Oh, the biblical authors. Oh, yeah, she, that's for such a choice. I was imagining, okay, check the ego there Tim. So the biblical authors have saved a list that would have been right at home at the end of Leviticus. A kid you not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Would have been perfect there. Yeah. They took it out and they put it here and it just sticks out like a sore thumb like what's it doing here? But this is a moment in the melody where we're about to signal the end of our stage one of like the gift of God's Eden blessing rest with male and female as rulers over the land with a splendorous image of God to guide them. This is able giving the good offering. Oh, yes, that's right. But without the cane-enable murder. Without the cane-enable murder
Starting point is 00:53:09 and without the Adam and Eve exile. Yeah, totally. But it's this idea of, well, because Adam and Eve didn't have to do and sort of... No. ...sacrificial stuff in the... But remember, Adam and Eve, their job description is called
Starting point is 00:53:21 to work and to keep the garden. And those are the descriptions of what the Levites and priests do in and around the tabernacle. Their daily duties. Work and keep it. Yeah. So what here is, okay, I'm going to a list of what offerings happen at what times. So, you know, it's interesting. We're going to start with the offering that takes place at morning and at night, and evening, it's the same words in the evening, the morning, and in the evening.
Starting point is 00:53:51 So that's day one of Genesis. So it goes through. So that's day one. Here's the next offering, then on the day of Shabbat, offer this kind of offering. So that's the seventh day. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:54:05 Yeah. So we're actually, we're going through Genesis 1 and then we're going to start going through the fractals of the seventh day on out. But we start with the evening and morning. And then we rest on the seventh day. And then we go to the Sabbath day, Sabbath day rest. Then at the beginning, and it's the word, oh, it's the same word as the word in the beginning from Genesis 1, 1, at the beginning of each month. So here at the beginning of the 12 months, okay? So here are the offerings you do at the beginning of each month.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Then on the 14th day of the first month, the two times seventh day, it is Passover. This is additional offerings being made in the tabernacle in addition to the Passover offerings. And what we're going to do is, and then it's like, on the seventh day, you shall do no work, we're going to go through Israel's whole calendar, the seven feasts, and offer a whole new layer. And it's just all the language of the seventh day and resting. And it's a good example of, what's this doing here? It really belongs in Leviticus. But it's been put here as a note portraying the ideal rest
Starting point is 00:55:17 of the new generation in the land. This is what's possible. And this is what it'll look like in your calendar year. Like these are the moments for you to go, And this is what's possible. And this is what it'll look like in your calendar year. Like these are the moments for you to go, yes, we are in the land with God. These are the activities we're doing. Yeah, exactly. So numbers 28 and 29 in this first section of units in the third movement of numbers. The final movement of numbers begins with a set of stories and laws that are portraying this generation as
Starting point is 00:55:52 being like Adam and Eve's setup in the ideal good land. And so now this too long chapters are all in expansion and meditation on the seventh day of Genesis 1, of resting with God in His presence, surrendering as an axe of worship to the will of God so that together we can live and discern the will of God in the new Eden Land. That's the picture here. Numbers 26 through 29 all this animal sacrifice stuff to me feels Like I don't know Like uneasy like hmm. I'm not around dead animals a lot. Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting just scanning this Like the word soothing aroma mm-hmm appears all the time. Yeah, yeah, and you get this sense of
Starting point is 00:56:44 There's actually something really calming and mm the time. Yeah, yeah. And you get this sense of there's actually something really calming and... Yeah. Actually, the word soothing is the Hebrew word Nighouach. It's a variant of Noah's name. It's an aroma of rest. When humans are at peace with God, and remember all these sacrifices represent surrender of surrendering before God, what's most valuable as an act of honor. It's the smell of barbecue.
Starting point is 00:57:10 In reality, it's the smell of ribs, smell of smoke barbecue. Yeah. So I know that we took two episodes here, just to crawl through one, you know, what, four chapters, numbers 26 through 29. But I think the value here is to see that what can feel like a Hodgpod jumble of like, that's cool, and that's cool, and that's cool. But why are these here? There is a logic to the organization of sections in the Torah. It's just maybe not a logic that feels native to us or like how we would do it. So it does raise a question, what could go wrong?
Starting point is 00:57:50 Well, that's what I was going to ask is like, then am I going to anticipate some sort of failure? So yeah, here's what's fascinating, kind of, kind of. What follows in numbers 30 is a random set of laws about making vows, but specifically it's going to be about what happens when the vows of a husband and wife are in conflict with each other, or vows between a father and a daughter. So vows are when you make a promise, or you say you're going to do something and you bring God into it.
Starting point is 00:58:26 And so in the cycle of the melody, I think if you dive into vocabulary at number 30, you find the vocabulary that recalls the Eden story where Adam and Eve have a conflict of wills over what God said and whose word is most important here. And so the failure is reflected in that moment there. And then after that, number 31, you get a story about conflict between brothers. Mm-hmm. Can't enable, but it's a story about a war between Israelites and their relatives, the Midianites. Interesting. Totally. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Totally. Yeah. This section of numbers is designed along the motifs of the melody, all leading up to the tribes of Ruben, Gad, and half of Manasseh, deciding that they want to settle on the east side of the Jordan,
Starting point is 00:59:20 not in the land. Which is like a bit of a rebellion. It's interesting. It's interpreted as an act of rebellion at first. And Moses gets in their faces and is like, dude, he doesn't say God's going to send a flood, but this is actually the story that recalls the flood narrative, where what these guys do is interpreted by Moses as a great act of rebellion and he's able to avert disaster by compelling them to cross over the land, the armed men to cross over and help their brothers. And what they are to do is set up little
Starting point is 00:59:55 refuges for their wives and children and houses like little arcs And build little refuges for your animals, your children. It's like exactly the list of what Noah brings along with him. It's animals and then his wives and his sons and daughters-maw. And then they have refuge in the ark. And so these tribes are to leave their families in these little art refuges they build until they cross through the waters to go deliver their brothers. And then we went through the cycle and boom! So now, that's numbers 26 to 32, is a unit.
Starting point is 01:00:36 It's the opening unit of this movement, and it's exactly the themes of Genesis 1 through 9. Okay, let me just say two things. Learning how to discern this has been a skill that I've had to work on and develop. I know that some people would say this crazy or made up. I'm convinced it's not made up. It's like right there to be seen. So this is a skill set that I've learned from a number of Hebrew Bible scholars, so you just know this isn't like me. So some are Jewish and Israeli scholars. Yitzhak Berger, Yonatan Grossman, and then some
Starting point is 01:01:10 are Hebrew Bible scholars, but here in the States, David Andrew Teeter, or over in the UK, William Tumen. So there's people who actually see this stuff and really make a good case that this is how the Hebrew B is put together. And once you look at things from that angle, did the Hebrew Bible like things pop? Yeah. So this is kind of a fun little tour through the second. Yeah. Where are we going to touch down next then?
Starting point is 01:01:35 Yeah. So we're going to touch down on the last chapters of the number scroll. And it's going to be all about as the Israelites go into the new land, what do you do if there's murder or bloodshed in the land? You know, like in the flood, leading up to the flood, and the blood cries out from the land? How are we going to prevent future floods of judgment if there's innocent blood crying out to God in the land? You know, we need a new kind of arc,
Starting point is 01:02:06 but not one that floats. We need a arc that's called the City of Refuge, that we need to plant all over the land, and did. It's so cool. That's what we'll talk about next. Thanks for listening to this episode of Bible Project Podcast. Next week we wrap up the School of Numbers. We're going to look at a story where two and a half of the tribes of Israel decide not to go into the Promised Land. They look at the east side of the Jordan River and think, oh, this seems good enough.
Starting point is 01:02:39 These two tribes are replaying both the failure of Adam and Eve and also the failure of Cain. Because this illegitimate, seeing, desiring, and taking, what God has not given for them to take, is going to lead to a division within the tribes. Now the land that was supposed to be for all of them together will be only for the 10 and a half, and it will be for two and a half over on this side that they've carved out this little Eden in their eyes. And this leads to a division in the brothers. Today's show is produced by Cooper Peltz
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