BibleProject - Justice Part 3: Jesus and His Mission of Justice
Episode Date: October 23, 2017This is part 3 in our Justice series where we discuss Jesus and his mission for justice. Tim and Jon begin the episode (0-12:30) discussing why its a big deal to think of humanity being made in the �...��image of God.” Tim and Jon speculate on what separates man from animals. And whether there were vegetarians in the ancient world. In the second part of the show (12:30-23:40), Jon ponders the juxtaposition of viewing life as a competition vs viewing it as an opportunity to do social justice. Tim discusses the social justice themes of Jesus in the gospel of Luke. Tim also outlines, the unique justice of Jesus dying on the cross. The final act of the show (23:40-end) the guys discuss what the Christian response is after Jesus’ death and resurrection. Tim says the people of Jesus should be at the forefront of creating and doing social justice to create a better society in which all people are honored as sacred and divine images of God. Thank you to our supporters! If you would like to participate in our Justice Q+R episode next week, record your question (keep it less than 15 seconds) and email it to us support@thebibleproject.com . Deadline: Weds October 25th, 2017. Don’t forget to include your first name and where you’re from. Show Resources: Bruce Waltke: Proverbs Commentary Show Music: Rosasharn Music: Defender Instrumental Hang Massive: Once Again Beautiful Euology: Blessed are the Merciful
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Hey, this is John from the Bible Project.
Today, we're going to continue a conversation on
biblical justice. There are two terms in the Bible, justice and righteousness, and they're
coupled together when talking about the Bible's view of a just society. And what it looks
like is pretty clear, it's a society that takes care of the vulnerable, specifically the
widow, the orphan, the poor,
and the immigrant, or what theologians have called the quartets of the vulnerable.
In this episode, we're going to look at Jesus and how he carries this rich tradition of
biblical justice forward.
Jesus comes on to the scene, embodies this prophetic vision of Mishpat.
He's constantly moving towards the vulnerable,
and including them first,
this what the Gospel of Luke intentionally turns up the volume on that part of Jesus' mission.
This is good news for the poor.
It's Mishpat for the poor.
So we're going to talk about Jesus, his mission of justice,
and why it's crucial for us to think of humans as being made in the image of God.
Here we go.
How does this come to its climax in Jesus?
Yeah, that's what we haven't talked about.
No, no, we haven't even talked about Jesus.
We haven't talked about Jesus.
So maybe I can just do a quick breeze through what I think the story line could be like.
All of this is rooted in the way the Bible works as a unified story.
All of this is rooted in humans as the image of God.
The ones who are supposed to be ruling the world and God's beings.
Yeah, what makes a human different from praying mantis in any
Dillard terms?
Many things.
Well, many, yeah, there's a lot of things.
But in terms of the Bible's vision of what humans are, humans
uniquely are the divine image, representations of God,
appointed to be responsible and steward and rule over the world and its resources in a way that no other species has proofed capable.
Even though many other species of creatures are more powerful than we are.
They don't have the intelligence.
Yeah, they don't have the brain.
The prefrontal cortex.
That's right. So the biblical vision of justice and right relationship,
underneath it all, is what's going on on pages one and two
of the Bible with humans, have a,
are how we treat each other is supposed to be different
than how praying mantises treat each other.
And it's because of the image.
And so you have the, you have Genesis one.
Pregnances are the ones where the female eats the hungry. No, it's because of the image. So you have the you have Genesis one Metz is are the ones where the female eats the
Just thinking about this. Yeah, so after
After mating mating
So so where this comes out in page one is
Let us make humanity our image let them rule over the creatures and that kind of thing
So humans are God's image, they represent
God and are responsible. But where this comes out actually is in chapter 9 of Genesis, this
thing about the sacred value of life in chapter 9, where after getting off the boat, Noah
and his family, God recommissions Noah as a new Adam.
It's like creation's been washed and renewed,
and Noah is blessed and gets the same commission
as humanity on page one.
Except there's a couple things different,
and one of them is the ideal humanity
from Noah onward doesn't have to be vegan.
Ideal humanity is vegan on pages one and two. And it's the vision,
again, of a world where for me to exist, another creature doesn't have to die. Another animal,
you just eat plants on pages one and two. But, but from now on, bacteria, viruses, and
But, but from now on, without bacteria and viruses and...
Yeah, yeah, whatever.
I'm just telling the story.
Okay.
Tell the story where.
But Genesis 1 and 2 doesn't say don't eat animals.
Yes, yes, as I've given you every plant and seed bearing.
Tree.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
So, so by excluding animals from that list.
Correct.
Okay.
That's correct.
Yeah.
The ideal vision is, yeah, if you can diet.
Okay. Where you live off what the land produces.
You got to make sure you get a whole protein out of those fruits.
That's nuts.
No, nuts. Complete protein.
That's right.
But when Noah gets recommissioned as the new humanity, there's a provision made for eating animals.
And then there's a clarification made saying, but not humans.
Not humans.
And then this is a little poetic line.
That's interesting.
Whoever sheds a human's blood, by humans his blood shall be shed for in the image of
God he made humanity.
I want to look this up. Genesis 9.
Genesis 9 verses 5 and 6.
He says, don't eat humans.
No, no, no, no.
No, he says, I give you, he repeats what he gives to humans on page 1.
Okay.
All of the things.
So God bless Noah and his son, saying, be fruitful and peace never and for the earth.
Yeah. So that's repeating Genesis 2.
The fear and dread of you will fall on all the beasts of the earth and the birds of
the sky and every creature that moves along the ground and all the fish and sea, they
are given to your hands.
Everything that lives and moves about will be your food for you.
So this is the new thing.
Yeah, I give it all to you just as I gave you the plants.
Just as I gave you the plants. Now, cool. Now you can eat the animals. Yeah, wow, I never it all to you, just as I gave you the plants. Just as I gave you the plants, now, cool.
Now you can eat the animals.
Yeah, wow, I never really noticed that.
Yeah.
So now, yeah, you're off your vegan diet.
But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it,
which is like a kosher thing, right?
Yep, yep.
And your lifeblood will surely demand an accounting.
What does that mean? Oh, and for your lifeblood, I will surely demand an accounting. What does that mean? Oh, and for your lifeblood,
I will surely demand an accounting.
Yeah.
So for humans, so if a human dies,
there better someone's gonna be held responsible.
And then you get a little poem on packet
whoever sheds human blood by a human,
their blood shall be shed.
Why?
Why is killing an animal to eat it different than killing a human?
For in the image of God, he made humans.
So animal rights activists who seek mishpot for vulnerable animals will have had a difficult
time.
This isn't a great passage.
And what he's saying isn't, Therefore go like destroy all living creatures.
That's ridiculous.
He does say that they will fear and dread you.
Yeah, like a deer.
Deer doesn't want to eat.
Yeah, he's fears and treads you.
Yeah, he runs away.
But you have cattle and they like you.
They're hanging out.
It's a good point.
Your pig becomes afraid.
I did not grow up on a farm, me neither.
But I hear pigs are very intelligent animals.
So the point is, in Genesis 9, the value of human life is seen as having a sacred, transcended
dignity, that a human being who takes the life of another human is very different than squishing a praying
mantis. And that you are actually wrong in God. And you're wrong in God when you harm your
animal. Remember that proverb about the wise man takes care of his animal. So because that's a part
of God's creation and good world. However, there's never a moment where you can kill a person
for your own sustenance or preservation,
but you can with an animal.
This seems to be the point here.
And why is it?
What's the rationale underneath that?
Because of the image of God.
So here's what's important is that
this is a uniquely Jewish Christian tradition
and idea that is not derived from nature. It's also unique in the history of human civilization.
You can go to the great author, the great ethical thinkers of ancient Greece, Aristotle,
author, the great ethical thinkers of ancient Greece, Aristotle, and his whole argument is, there are some humans who are more valuable than others, and by nature, some humans are meant
to be slaves and be ruled by the reasonable and the rational.
That's not even just an ancient thing, everyone is founding of America.
You got this totally.
Yeah, all humans are created equal, except the ones who aren't white, your peons.
Exactly.
And women.
And women, yes.
Exactly.
Even societies that say that they honor the Bible have found this a difficult vision to live up to,
or have just straight up not actually been consistent.
They've been inconsistent. At least a radical contribution of the Hebrew Bible to human history
is the concept of a mishpot, a right, the inherent possession of every single human. Regardless of, I mean, it's page one, by my will.
Regardless of gender.
So that's easy to take.
Yeah.
That's easy to take for granted.
That all humans deserve.
Yes, yeah, that's right.
In our culture, it's now easy to take for granted
because of our cultural amnesia.
But yeah, like that's why should you care
about every human the same?
Yeah.
And in reality, we don't.
I mean, I can't.
I can't care as much for an orphanage full of kids
in Romania as I do care about my own kids.
I just can't, but maybe that's not what we're talking about. Because I'm not going to go and kill them.
No, I don't think that's necessarily what it's talking about.
But it is saying this is the rationale underneath all of this,
Mishpat and Sareka, and it's that human life is sacred and precious,
every single human life.
And so within my community and realms of influence
that, you know, under the wise administration
of my life and resources, there are going to be people,
however, whose mishpot is neglected,
their image bearing value is neglected.
And I, God, a follower of Jesus who takes it seriously will notice, like
try and notice that and be a part of whatever is at their disposal to change that for the
people.
And it's really like you don't learn this.
Oh, so there's one other time, the image of God's explicitly drawn on in the same way.
In the New Testament, it's in the letter of James, where he talks about the way we talk with people,
talk to people in James chapter 3.
And yet, that great line, where he says, with the same mouth, you know,
we say, praise God and thank you God for everything.
And then we go and speak poorly of somebody we don't like.
And he says, so with, yeah, with the same tongue,
we bless God, and with it, we curse humans
who have been made in the image of God.
This should not be happening.
He says.
So it's the same rationale. There's actually no human who deserves to
be cursed. You can say what somebody's doing is wrong, but to slander and devalue to them,
treat them as less than human. That's a violation of their dignity.
Even people that you don't like.
That's a really uniquely biblical idea.
Okay, image of God.
Okay, image of God.
So that's the idea where every human has a mishpat
before God, a right and a you. From here, then, it's kind of a familiar territory.
When human beings redefine good and evil, they take the knowledge of good and evil into
their own hands.
They tend to create societies where I assert the rights of me and the mishpot of me and
my group at the expense of the mishpot of you and your group, whether and whatever.
That's just human history. That's Genesis 1 to 11. So God singles out a family.
And there's a line in the Abraham stories that haven't got the attention they deserve.
It's in chapter 18. Where God says about Abraham,
surely Abraham will become a great and mighty nation, and in him all the nations of the
earth will be blessed, won't they? For I have chosen him so that he may command his children
and household after him to keep the way of the Lord by doing, Zedaka and Mishpat,
righteousness and justice,
so that the Lord may bring upon Abraham what he's spoken about him.
So what's the premise?
That all nations will be restored to divine blessing.
How? Through this family,
living among the nations by a different value system than Egypt or Babylon,
and its righteousness and justice. And so here the definition is assumed, all this broad
meaning that we've talked about, and so that's, and then they experienced themselves God's own
righteousness and justice when he redeemed them out of slavery in Egypt.
They became the vulnerable and God showed righteousness and justice for the oppressed on their behalf.
Therefore, he revealed to them the laws of the Torah that were embodiments of
Mishpah and Siddhaka to create the family of Abraham that does Mishpah and Siddhaka,
to create the family of Abraham that does Mishpah and Siddhaka, and that all the nations would look and say, well, what an incredibly wise nation that does Mishpah and Siddhaka. Israel doesn't do it.
Here's where the prophets come into play. And then here's what I thought was interesting,
when we get to the prophets and the wisdom literature, is that the prophets are pointing out all
these ways that is really, are perpetrating injustice.
And they talk about the new messianic leaders, going to come and so on.
But I thought this was, this quote from Bruce Waltke, this is from his commentary on Proverbs.
He's incredible Hebrew Bible scholar, wrote two fat volumes on Proverbs that are
So legit
But the whole the first volume begins how you this the excitement you get about large books
I'm just in a time. It's like you you actually show me the size of them with your hands
And then your and then your eyes kind of glaze over and your mouth drops a little bit. It's wow pretty funny
Okay plays over and your mouth drops a little bit. It's, wow, pretty funny. Okay.
Um, the first hundred pages, it's just these really cool essays
on all these biblical vocabulary words,
of like wisdom, foolishness,
and he has these two great essays on righteousness
and justice in the book of Proverbs.
Anyway, he summarizes it with this great line.
He says, if you read the Book of Proverbs,
here's what the common denominator you see
about the righteous, the Sadik.
The righteous are those who are willing
to disadvantage themselves to the advantage
of their community.
We call those suckers. Right? No. The wicked in proper. The rasha wicked. Those are who are willing to
disadvantage the community to advance themselves. So funny like I was really into poker for a while.
And I remember that.
You remember that?
Well, I remember I was living in Wisconsin.
Oh, in that period.
You know, I probably was playing a little bit
when you moved back to.
I don't know what point it stopped.
But you know, poker night with your friends.
No, I would go and play like tournaments.
Oh, what?
Oh, I did not know that. I thought you would, poker night with your friends, like, no, I would go and play like tournaments. Oh, what? Yeah.
I did not know that.
I thought you would do poker nights.
No, poker nights got boring because my friends don't like
to really play poker, you know?
Like it just becomes a social thing,
which I should care about, I should care about it.
But what I was really loving was just the competition.
The competition, the game of poker.
And in the game of poker, it's all
about taking advantage of people when they make mistakes. You have to. Like that's how
you win. That's how you win. Someone makes a mistake. Yeah. You take advantage of that
person. Wow. And you get some of their chips. And it's all about collecting your chip,
the chips over time. And it's not necessarily the cards you get dealt. It's about finding the opportunities
to take advantage of someone. You can lie. It's bluffing. You're supposed to. You're supposed
to pretend you have a better hand than you do. And the person who comes and doesn't know
what they're doing, you call them the fish. They're the fish, they're the sucker. And every table, you don't know where the fish is,
you're the fish.
And so it's always being aware of who can I take advantage of
and how am I gonna take advantage of them.
And then when people are strong
and you know it's gonna be hard to take advantage of,
then you try to find their weaknesses.
You're like, okay, what's this person's weakness?
Do they have a tell?
Yeah.
Where they can, you know, you know what they might have
by their body language or by their actions.
Do they have a certain habit, just in the way
that they bet or different things?
And take advantage of that.
It's like, hmm, hmm, so interesting.
Yeah.
It's like the opposite of Mishpoth.
That's why I bring it up. Yeah, that's like the opposite of Mishpoth. That's why I bring it up.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Do you think that that's different than any other sport?
Do you feel like the...
Oh, yeah, it's very different.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's very...
It's very...
It's like when you're playing basketball, you're also trying to exploit your opponent's weaknesses
and advantage, right?
Mm.
Yeah.
There's a different, because it's just you as opposed to a team.
It is true.
It's very individual.
There's no teamwork.
It's usually for money as opposed to...
I don't know.
There's something ruthless about it.
Yeah.
I can...
It feels different.
I'm just trying to understand what the difference is.
Between that and basketball.
Because the basketball, yeah, you want to fool your opponent,
you want to be thinking, you're dribbled left,
and you're gonna dribble right,
and you wanna fake them out and realize,
oh, they don't have a good jump shot,
so I'm gonna make them have to take the jump shot.
Yeah, I don't know, but for whatever reason,
reading that, the righteous are those who are willing
to disadvantage themselves to the advantage of their community.
If you go into a poker room with that mentality,
you're gonna lose.
You're gonna lose.
Everyone else can take advantage of you.
I think that's the mentality that maybe,
when that gets applied then to life,
like life is the poker room.
And I've got to, I've got to take the chips that I can
and I can't show weakness or I'm going to
get taken advantage of.
To tell someone, to go into the situation and be willing to disadvantage yourself for
the advantage of the community is just so backwards.
Yeah, that's true.
And here, the reason why I included that is because I think this is kind of our ticket to the way this video works,
and the way it connects to Jesus.
Yeah.
I mean, really, it's like the perfect takeaway.
Because Jesus comes on to the scene, and he first of all embodies this prophetic vision of Mishpah.
He's constantly moving towards the vulnerable and including them first within
this, what the gospel of Luke intentionally turns up the volume on that part of Jesus' mission.
This is good news for the poor. It's Mishpoth for the poor. Like, think of this parable where
like a few throw a luncheon. If you're a part of the king of God and you throw a dinner. Yeah, don't invite people that can pay you back.
Yes, invite the people who actually can't benefit you at all.
Which means it actually is all for your disadvantage because you're paying for the meal.
Yeah.
And you're going to, and Jesus says that's what it is.
Yeah.
When Jesus confronts the Pharisees in the Gospel of Luke in chapter 11. He says, you know, you're really precise
that paying a tithe, not just your produce, but love your mint plants. You have that
front in your hand. Yet you risk, you disregard justice and the love of God. These are things
you should be doing without neglecting the others.
So justice and love are two sides of the same coin for Jesus.
But that's what we already knew that from Micah to do justice and to love mercy in terms
of looking for those who are the vulnerable.
So that's the Jesus part. And then, so it's both he embodied
that vision of Mishpah in his kingdom of God mission. And then what the cross, the moment of the
cross is precisely the moment where God disadvantages himself. God, yeah, in Jesus, God disadvantages himself, while he also accomplishes recompense.
So the cross becomes this moment where the judge becomes the judge.
And it's where you could say it's where both definitions of justice
perfectly meet together at the cross,
where God brings a just recompense on human
evil. But he provides it by embodying Mishpah for the poor.
By taking it himself, and so the cross is where God's love and justice meet together,
I think that's really compelling, interesting, and beautiful idea. I'm going to be a little bit more careful. And then where you go from there, since our goal was to think about response in some way,
is followers of Jesus find themselves as people who have received this loving mishpot, where our plight has been,
our plight of frail mortal, mortal, morally corrupt humans has been recognized.
It's been addressed through the life, death and resurrection of Jesus.
It's our Exodus.
It's our Exodus. Yeah. He looked on us in our slavery to ourselves and to even deeper
mysterious evil powers that I don't claim to understand. And he provided a way forward himself.
And so the people of Jesus should be at the forefront of creating this kind of mishpot, especially for the
vulnerable.
You can see how the ark goes there.
So it's the image of God.
Every human has inherent sacred right and value.
The way human history works, we disregard that.
God singled out a family. I mean, this has the
arc of many of our theme videos. Yeah. I wonder when these are going to get like tiring to people.
Yeah, I know. Yeah. Same thing. Yeah. It's a good question.
Part of it is just, this is the biblical story. Yeah. So we're just trying to think about it from different angles.
Yeah. But yeah, I thought about that as I was writing in this.
Oh, did you? I don't think we're there, but it is something that came to both our minds.
Yeah. No, that's cool. And then, yeah, what I like is that if we can build these two
senses of justice, and then the Jesus and his death and resurrection, or were both
of them come together, were God's way of confronting evil and stopping it, is also his means
of showing generous attention to the whole world.
Yeah, the two ideas are very stitched together.
Yeah.
Almost so much so that, like like is it essentially the same thing? Like does,
does our evil always result in oppression? Is that just a natural result? Yeah, interesting.
Or is there a kind of evil that wouldn't, you know? Well it's interesting. Yeah, when
you were talking about like the Bernie Madoff example interview. Yeah. Even the person at the center of all that wasn't just like the embodiment of evil.
Right.
Yeah.
So somehow our own insecurities, mistakes, even noble efforts can all get twisted and turned
into create great injustice.
Yeah.
Totally. That's a part of, yeah, the great injustice. Yeah, totally.
That's a part of the human condition.
That we need help, we need to figure that out.
Somebody needs to figure that out.
And the story of the Bible is that Jesus is the one who is the only way out of that plight.
the one who is the only way out of that plight,
by what he did on our behalf, but also by the new way of living that he embodied.
And here we're, I mean, we're talking about
what he did on our behalf is an example,
but then in also some way releases us
from whatever the draw is, whatever that spiritual evil is,
that traps us in that.
This video really isn't going to get into that.
No.
No.
Which is interesting.
What's the...
Oh, you said we might do this video.
It would be the chaos monster.
The chaos monster.
Chaos monster.
But like, yeah, like that's the connecting piece to like, what's the salvation?
Like, what am I being freed from?
And so that now I can live a life more of righteousness and justice.
Because I could think of how I might be able to do it without Jesus.
Like, I'd be like, well, I'm just going to care more about the poor.
And I'm going to care more about my consumer habits and the climate and all these different things
that might all affect things and that's going to make my life all about that.
And I don't need Jesus in that equation.
So maybe I'll be like, yeah, I's a cool moral example of having done that. But, yeah, what's the actual like, empowerment, but that's a different video, it seems like.
Yeah, it is.
Okay.
I think this is mostly about painting this biblical definition of justice as being primarily
oriented towards the vulnerable.
How that's rooted in the image of God
and then violated
and that God's on a mission to create a people
who live differently and that Jesus is the one
who perfectly leading the way.
The bodies and trailblazes the way forward into that.
By taking the ultimate consequences of injustice,
therefore rendering recompense on human injustice,
but then also in that same act,
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