BibleProject - Our Collective Identity – Family of God E2

Episode Date: November 30, 2020

What is God’s picture of an ideal humanity? In this podcast episode, Tim and Jon look at Genesis 1-2 and talk about how God makes one humanity, divides them, and purposes for them to be one again. A...nd this oneness that God brings doesn’t erase personal and cultural differences; rather, it completes them. View full show notes from this episode →Timestamps Part one (0:00–7:30)Part two (7:30–37:30)Part three (37:30–49:15)Part four (49:15–end)Show Music “Movement” by Felty“Day and Night” by Aiguille“Cocktail Hour” by Strehlow“Defender Instrumental” by TentsShow produced by Dan Gummel. Show notes by Lindsey Ponder.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, this is Cooper at Bible Project. I produce the podcast in Classroom. We've been exploring a theme called the City, and it's a pretty big theme. So we decided to do two separate Q and R episodes about it. We're currently taking questions for the second Q and R and we'd love to hear from you. Just record your question by July 21st
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Starting point is 00:00:37 On the second page of the Bible, we get a wonderful little story about Adam. He's the first character in the Bible, and his name in Hebrew, Adam, means humanity. When it says in the middle line, in the image of God, he created him. In English, we have to use a masculine singular term to go back to that humanity of the first line. God created humanity in his image. The image of God, he created him. But that him doesn't mean male human. It's referring to the generic humanity. Adam is in God's good world. He sees all the other animals have male and female counterparts. But he realizes he's alone.
Starting point is 00:01:13 So, verse 21, he causes a tardé ma to fall upon the human. Divine stupor. This is not normal sleep. This kind of sleep happens about half a dozen times in the Hebrew Bible. And it's always God causing it, and he took one from his sides. Now all English translations have the word rib. God took Adam's rib.
Starting point is 00:01:34 It is certainly not what the word means. It's an architectural word that refers to most often, it's used to describe the side of a building. So God took a side of Adam, like a split of a half. So it's the human becomes man and woman. God turns one into two. And then, at the end of the story, the author steps in and gives us his reflection. Dear reader, for this reason, I want you to realize this isn't just an interesting story
Starting point is 00:02:04 about people in the past. He's telling this story as an archetypal here. For this reason, a man in Ish will leave his father and mother and he will cling to his Isha. Isha being Hebrew for a woman. And they will become one flesh. And so humanity starts as one and then becomes to yet a supposed to unite back as one. This is the way he would buy what works. It's advancing an idea, a philosophical idea about the nature of humanity. Humanity is a unique kind of species that its oneness consists of its more than oneness.
Starting point is 00:02:45 I'm John Collins, this is Bob Project Podcast. Thanks for joining us. Here we go. Here we are. We're going to continue a theme on this new discussion. We're going to continue a discussion on a new theme. On the family of God. On the family of God. And we began last episode just setting the table. You brought to my attention, all of our attention, that Christianity is a very diverse global movement. In fact, the most diverse religious movement on the planet. And that's no accident. In that, at the core of the story,
Starting point is 00:03:27 is that God wants to use one nation and through that nation, all nations will get in on the party, as you said. Yeah, yeah. Or even, let me just develop it one step further at this moment. You could say the story of the Bible begins with a global focus, all humanity focus. However, by Genesis 11, a crisis takes place that God responds to by focusing in on one family among all of the human nations. So you start with the many. It's like a triage. Yeah. It's like things go crazy and you're like, I'm just gonna focus here, stop the bleeding.
Starting point is 00:04:10 So it begins with the nations. Focus is in on the story of one nation with the story of Abraham. And then for the rest of the Old Testament, it's really zeroed in on that one family. But all nations in the one family, the one nation, it's intertwined. What God is doing through the one is for the many that the story began with. So that in the story of Jesus, it's both the story of Israel, the one
Starting point is 00:04:34 being worked out so that we can fulfill the calling of that one among the many that started back on page 12 of Genesis. So it goes from the many to the one back out to the many. When you use the sort hands, the one to the many to the one, my brain just kind of shifts into like idle and just kind of like stops being able to follow. No, I don't have a white board, it just makes so much sense. But I think the many. The many meaning all the nations, all the nations all the nations all the nations That's how the story begins a global focus. Okay, so Genesis 1 2 11 God and the nation
Starting point is 00:05:12 Well, that's we're gonna look at today. Yep focus in on or Abraham to the story of one nation one nation whole Testament the story of Jesus begins with making his focus on a mission to that one The story of Jesus begins with making his focus on a mission to that one. So that post-resurrection, and even a little bit before then, we go back out to the many, to the mission to the nations. It's a simple way to think about the storyline of the Bible, from the many nations to one nation, back out to the many nations. In terms of where is the story's focusing? Where the story is focused, yeah, that's right. Because it does raise the question, if Christianity is the most global multi-ethnic movement,
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yeah, then why is four fifths of the Bible all about one? One people group. Exactly, that's it right there. So if it's a story about all nations, why is the majority of the Christian scriptures about one nation, that's the question. So then there's nothing for it. You gotta tell the story. Gotta tell the story. Gotta tell the story.
Starting point is 00:06:08 We talked last episode about how the story ends with this picture of new creation with a new humanity ruling over the earth. But there's actually still kings and kingdoms. Yeah, nations. And nations, who are participating in this, it's not some new, homogenous group. Yeah, and the focus on the nations in Revelation, chapter 21 and 22, is about all of their unique difference, because each one is bringing their honor, the glory,
Starting point is 00:06:44 the unique thing, the unique value bringing their honor, the glory, the unique thing, the unique value that they generate in the world is all brought together and unified in bringing honor to the creator, to the Lamb. So that was the flowering of the theme in full bloom, the nations unified in allegiance to their creator. So obviously if that's the solution, then the problem is the nations not unified and using their honor and splendor not to beautify or honor,
Starting point is 00:07:15 but to pull power plays and be in conflict with each other. So how did we get there? How did we get to a whole bunch of human families that can't stand each other. So how did we get there? How did we get to a whole bunch of human families that can't stand each other and that think of each other as more important than their neighbor? Yeah, well I don't think you need a Bible to answer that question. Right? No, but the Bible is offering us an angle on that question. It has its own story to tell on why the human family is so divided. And we call this Genesis chapters 1 through 11. 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc
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Starting point is 00:08:24 1 tbc 1 tbc So let's do two quick stops that will not be quick, I'm guessing, on how the story of the Bible depicts the ideal humanity in Genesis 1 and 2. So, Genesis 1 and 2, yeah, depicts an ideal which then in Genesis 3 is distorted, corrupted, and forfeited, which leads you to Babylon in Genesis 11. So let's stop one with ideal is a picture of the ideal humanity in Genesis 1. We've spent many hours of conversation on the image of God in Genesis 1. We have. And I love to do it.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Let's see, especially in a series that was on the image of God that's in the podcast, but also in our series on the Son of Man, we did along a deep dive. I've realized that this theme more than any other has stood out and been influential in the way I think About the story of the Bible. It's very exciting and empowering and almost feel like any theme we're talking about it's always humming in the background. It's true. Yeah, that's right It's the reason why it's on page one. Yeah, it's like. There's a lot on page one. There's a lot on page one. That's true. It is a bit of a draw on page one.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Yeah, that's right. Yeah, or you could say it's like a beam of light that goes on through all of the different themes throughout the Bible to get refracted and reflected in different hues and colors. Yeah. But underneath all the different themes later on in the Bible, usually the image
Starting point is 00:10:05 of God is common to most of them in some way. So we've talked about, there's a little poem. After God says, let us make human in our image and in our likeness, Genesis 1, verse 26. Genesis 1, verse 27, gives us a little three-line poem that tells us something very important about the nature of the image and human identity. So, the three lines are, one, God created Adam, humanity, in his own image, line two. In the image of God, he created him, which is just like an inverse of the first line. Correct. Yep, it's exactly right. It takes the three key words, four key words,
Starting point is 00:10:46 and swaps up their order. The reason it's doing it is to create a transition for the last line. Okay. So God created human in his image. That's line one. Yep. Line two. In the image of God, he created him. Okay. Third line, male and female, he created them. So this is going to be hard to just listen to. It might help if you get out your phone and turn on a Bible. And look at Genesis 1 verse 27. But the seventh... I love how you just said turn on a Bible and that just...
Starting point is 00:11:21 That makes perfect sense. Yes, it does. But it's the strangest thing to say. Turn on your Bible. Yes, get open. My hunch is, yeah, yeah, anyway. Turn on your Bible. Turn on your Bible.
Starting point is 00:11:32 So it's a three-line poem. The middle line takes the words of, and it happens in Hebrew and then reflecting them in English here, it takes the words of the first line, and turns them into a different order, so that the third line can first line and turns them into a different order so that the third line can come along and actually match the word order of that middle line. The last line.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Just here. I'm talking about theoretically, but just look at the text here. It's okay. The brain hurts. It's alright. So God created human in his image, general statement. Which by the way is a revelation or is a very general statement. Which, by the way, is a revelation, or is a very amazing statement.
Starting point is 00:12:07 That's right. Humans in the ancient world, that's right. We made the image of God. That's right. God created human in his own image. Yes, every human, humanity as a whole and each individual human is a physical representation
Starting point is 00:12:22 of the divine. Well, yeah, it's remarkable still today. It's even more remarkable to imagine a world where the only place you would hear this type of language would be in royal rhetoric. Yeah. Where kings make this claim about themselves and their office. Just important for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:40 So that's the first claim. The second line takes the words of that first line and it puts them in a different order. In the image of God, he created him. That's like Yoda said the second line. Yeah, that's right. Correct. The third line of the poem then mirrors precisely the word order of the previous line, but it swaps out some words. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Instead of the image of God, you have male and female, then you have he created, but instead of he created him as in the middle line, you have he created them plural. So in Hebrew poetry, again, looting back to podcast series we did on how to read Heber poetry. One of the main tools of communication is short lines that match each other in word, word order, but never identical so that the similarity makes you observe the differences between the two lines. And that's exactly what's happening here. It creates a bit of a friction and chemistry when you see how these lines interact with each other.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yeah, that's right. So in the poetic structure, the phrase image of God in the middle line is in the identical slot as male and female in the third line. So what does it mean to be the image of God? It is not just a male thing, it's not just a female thing. Correct. Yeah, it's both of those things. Both. And both together are the image. Male and female are together the image.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Yeah. Which is why that When it says in the middle line in the image of God, he created him. In English, we have to use a masculine singular term to go back to that humanity of the first line. God created humanity in his image, in the image of God, he created him. But that him doesn't mean male human. It's referring to the generic humanity.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Which is a noun or something. Yeah, yeah, it's a masculine noun, that's right. And so the third line goes along, comes along and clarifies the image of God. It's not masculine. It's not only one gender. It's male and female. He created them. So we had to, it's having to point out painfully obvious things, but they actually aren't painfully
Starting point is 00:15:00 obvious. I guess if you don't know how he repotry works. Yeah, or if you've lived in human history. Yeah, that's right, totally. Yeah, that's right. What's important is that when we say male and female, together reflect the image, the next line is God blessing this image and saying to them, be fruitful and multiply, fill the land, subdue it and rule over creatures on the land. So all of a sudden that male and female gets a real specific application
Starting point is 00:15:34 here which is make more humans. Make humans and subdue and rule. Subdduin rule. So the application in the context is one layer of what it means for humans to image God is to be a being that is one and yet more than one at the same time. In other words, the image of God can be called Adam, which is the Hebrew word for humanity. But that one humanity consists of many more than one male and female. And the male and female don't have to be the same. In fact, it's crucial for humanity to be what it is. They are different than each other. So this is a core, even though it's working with gender, it's also this is the way he revival works. It's making a framework.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Yeah, it's advancing an idea, a philosophical idea about the nature of humanity. Humanity is a unique kind of species that its oneness consists of its more than oneness, which means that the humanity of any one is only realized in relationship to another who is different than me. So here it's talking about gender and there's two genders.
Starting point is 00:16:53 But these two genders together make the image of God, which is a singular thing to be the image of God. Yeah, it's something that's true of each individual human, but here, the point. And how do we know it's true of each individual human? Well, actually, yeah, that's not the point here. That's not the point here. We'll see later in, later in chapter 9, it clarifies that point.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Okay. The point here is that it's a collective identity. Collective identity. Together, as one, working out the commission given, which is to be more than one and through that multiplication to fill the land, harness its potential, and to exercise God's rule over it. That's the role of the image. And an image is meant to be a physical embodiment that points to its originator. Yeah, and so we talked about this at length, but just to state it again, in the ancient world, these were idle images,
Starting point is 00:17:46 these are statues. Yeah, this is the word for statue. That would represent God, a divine being. A divine being. On earth. The Hebrew Bible is saying, on page one, you are that. Humanity. Humanity.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Here is a collective male and female. Not some king, not some statue. That's right. But then the moment that they are fruitful and multiply means there's going to be many males and many females who are together the image of God. Not every male will multiply with every female. In other words, even though the focus here
Starting point is 00:18:20 is male and female, be fruitful and multiply. It's a collective idea, meaning that together, as a species, consisting of many who are different from each other, but that difference, as one unified whole, is precisely how they image God. That's the narrative argument being made here. Arguably, you're going a little far from where this leaves off. Oh.
Starting point is 00:18:43 In that, I see the argument go that male and female together make an image, the image of God. Yeah. And then it says, go, be fruitful and multiply. So you can infer. Now there's lots of males, lots of females. Yeah. But it never comes back and says,
Starting point is 00:18:56 and now all of you as a collective are the image of God. That's an inference. No, that's right. I'm taking my lead there just from the opening statement. God created human. Ah, human. And that. And human there, that word means all humanity.
Starting point is 00:19:08 It's a collective term meaning species of humanity. Yeah, I got it. So, okay. So it does. Species consists on abstract level of male and female, but then as they're being fruitful and multiply, they'll create many males and females who will together exist as one Adam. Now God created a Dom in his own image. You're saying human, could you say humanity here? Would that be a good translation? Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:33 And that really is the word a Dom can refer to humanity. Yeah, that's his primary meaning. That's his primary meaning. Yeah, that's right. Humanity, mankind. Yeah. And then as Genesis 2 moves on to talk about one particular figure, who eventually becomes the word Adam becomes a proper name, but never, it's never separated from that
Starting point is 00:19:55 collective identity, which is why Adam and Eve, or in Hebrew, Adam and Hava, are archetypal characters, because their names represent also they are individual characters that represent the whole family of humanity. Because their names mean humanity and life. So that's Genesis 1. Right? The one and the many. It's already there, right there.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Yeah. In Genesis 1. So Genesis 1, humanity is the capstone of creation of God's cosmic ordering, his ordering of heaven and earth. Genesis 2 is a narrative begins in 2 verse 4 that focuses in, not on God's cosmic ordering, but on his ordering of the dry land to who plant a sacred space at the center of the cosmos. Garden of Eden. Garden of Eden. We call it the Garden of Eden. So there, and there's an Adam. God takes from the dust and animates it with divine breath.
Starting point is 00:20:53 And then he does this outside of Eden. Then he plants. Takes the human. He plants a garden and then he rests. He knows his name as a verb. He knows the human in the garden. Oh, verb, he knows the human in the garden. Oh, I thought he planted the human in the garden. But then the humans came up out of the ground
Starting point is 00:21:09 and then plants a garden and the trees come up out of the ground. Okay, and that's the connection. So you have an Adam, and it actually has the word the in front of it in Hebrew. Oh, interesting. The human. The human. God makes the human and rests the human in the garden.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Why doesn't any translation just say the human then? I don't know. Mine does. Yours does? Yeah, yeah. What's yours? It was right here. I just the translation that I made. So with interesting, Genesis 2 verse 18, it's the first thing in the narrative. God says seven times in Genesis 1, man, this is good. It's good, good, good, good, good. Genesis 2 verse 18 is the first not good in the story. And it's that, the human. It's not good for ha-adam, the human, to be alone.
Starting point is 00:21:58 To be a lone entity. All by himself. Yep. So God says, I will make an Azer counterpart for him. So, I'm not translating the word Azer. But I'm going to make an Azer. Yeah. We're stuck in the history of English translations, the English word help.
Starting point is 00:22:19 So yes, in a previous series on the books of Solomon, the wisdom literature. Yes, we talked a lot about the Azer. We talked about this little scene right here. Yeah. So you can go back and reference that conversation. I just want to highlight a couple other elements about it here. So I actually have done a little more study on this phrase. Two things.
Starting point is 00:22:39 One, the word Azer, a better English interpretation would be something like deliverer. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Use the word salvation at one point. Yeah, that's right. So the words use as a noun to describe a person about 20 different times. And the only person who's ever given that title as a noun is Yahweh. And most often in military contexts. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Really, just do a Concordance Search on Acer. most often in military contexts. Oh, wow. Really, just do a concordant search on Acer. It's just, it's not hard to do, and it just becomes immediately clear. The help that's being talked about is deliverance from usually danger or at least from a non-ideal situation. There's no story where it's just some kid like doing an errand for someone.
Starting point is 00:23:23 No, no, it's like David being chased by enemies and he calls for Yahweh as his Azer, or the Philistines are breathing down as he relates next, and they call it for God, doesn't it? Helper is a very weak word for that. So helper is I think a mis-translation. We'll call it a mis-translation. So the word help kind of gets us there. The key is this next phrase, which is sometimes, in most English translations, it's a helper
Starting point is 00:23:52 corresponding to him or something like similar to him. So it's the word connect-do, the preposition, and then the word neg-ed in front of or negate. Yeah, negate. It's the basic preposition that means opposite you, physically opposite you, what is facing you? Something facing you, mirroring you. The thing standing apart from you, but facing you. That's what the word means.
Starting point is 00:24:20 So I will make an azer that is apart from but facing him. So I think the English phrase counterpart Works really well here. It's one that I look at and say that's a mirror of me It's not identical to me, but it's a mirror of me. So the phrase is azer Niggid. Azer? Well, in here it's connect though. Connect though. Yeah, and the K is as or according to, and then the O is him. Okay. So I will make a deliverer as one opposite him,
Starting point is 00:24:54 as one facing him. It's one facing him. Yeah. Yeah, facing almost makes it feel like it's a standoff. Oh, interesting. Versus like, uh, Correspondent. Yeah, of course, well, yeah. Corus like, uh, uh, correspondence. Yeah, course. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Corresponding to actually is another phrase I've toyed with here. But the point was it's, it's a human, but who has an other, that faces. Yeah. And they are mirrors of one another. So to speak, that's it. So then what happens in the narrative where God's going to provide the azure connect toe, but it happens in two steps. We've talked about this before. You asked me a question once that I think I have an answer to. So what Yahweh forms is not another human. He forms a bunch of animals. Oh yeah, I remember talking about this with you. And he brings the animals. I thought this was a silly little to the human to see where they call you. And he brings the animals. I thought this was a silly little. To the human to see what they call them. And he calls the names of the animals.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Yeah. What? This is the story in the Eden narrative that gets you the image of humans chilling with animals. Yeah. Because he's just like that. And naming things. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Yeah. Which is powerful. Totally. Giving. Divine thing. That's right. To do. Sharing in God's creative work. to name is to create. And then verse 20, but for the human there was no Azer corresponding to him. Yeah. Well, no duh. I mean that's what kind of
Starting point is 00:26:13 yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. So silly exercise. That was the yeah. It was this is like, so the question is what's the what was the point? Yeah, what's the point?? What's the point here? So if this little narrative about the human naming the animals in a different narrative outside of this, God providing a deliver, it would be like, oh, what a noble task. God's sharing, creative act.
Starting point is 00:26:37 But here it seems like, well, of course not. Like what? What? How about this penguin? No, that's not going to work. It doesn't correspond to me. I can't, uh, uh. So the question is, what's the point here?
Starting point is 00:26:52 Why is God bringing the animals of all these different types? What does this have to do with a human becoming more than one? Here's what I think. The next, this begins a design pattern that kind of carries through with the son of man theme, with just human relationships to the animals. The next story that's going to riff off of the human with the animal's theme, a human at peace with the animals in the safe place is Noah and his wife on the ark. And do you remember when God says to Noah, in chapter 7, that all the animals
Starting point is 00:27:26 are going to come to them, he says they're going to come to you in the same categories, every beast, every bird, every living creature. And they're going to come male and female, two by two. And it's literally the phrase each and its wife. This is back to meditation literature, the Bible's meditation literature. There'll be little puzzles or ambiguities in an earlier narrative that are there on purpose to keep you reading. And when you get to a later repetition of that pattern or motif, there'll be some little Easter egg in there,
Starting point is 00:27:59 buried that gives you retro commentary back on the earlier story. So I think if God is bringing all of these categories of animals to the human, and when I look at the same list of animals in the next story about humans and animals together, what I notice is it really highlights in the no story that the animals come two by two, male and female. So you have a lone human here who spends all day noticing all these animals have their animals have one corresponding to them. But for the
Starting point is 00:28:32 human, verse 20, there is no azer corresponding to him. I think it's as if the naming of the animals, it's like an educative experience for the human. He comes to realize that he is not yet really the image. That's right. There's something missing. There's something. Yeah, that's right. At least I think so.
Starting point is 00:28:52 So, verse 21, he causes a tired aimah to fall upon the human. Divine stupor. This is not normal sleep. Oh, it's like hypnotism. Yeah, this kind of sleep happens about half a dozen times in the Hebrew Bible, and it's always God causing it to do for someone what they cannot do for themselves. It's like he incapacitates someone so that he can do the thing they're not able to do. And he took one from his sides.
Starting point is 00:29:19 That's what it says in Hebrew. One from his sides. One what? Exactly. So almost all English translations going back to the first one with Wycliffe have inserted the word rib here. Yeah. Where did that come from? I know.
Starting point is 00:29:36 It is certainly not what the word means. Did they just have like a dictionary and they're just like, well, one what? I don't know. I think it's just, it's the interpretive tradition that they were familiar with. And it's all the interpretation of rib as a concept. You know, it goes back even to Jewish tradition. But there are many other options,
Starting point is 00:29:54 especially in early Jewish interpretation history for what the word means. It's the standard word for side. We talked about this as well. I think during the same conversation. Correct. And the takeaway was, it's his side. It's a half.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Yeah, it's the word for half. Yes. So he took one from his half. Yeah, it's an architectural word that refers most often. It's used to describe the side of a building. So this would make perfect sense if he said he took one of the halves. Yeah, one from his side. Oh, how many sides does a human have?
Starting point is 00:30:26 But that's awkward in English. In English, you would say one of the sides. So what I'm mirroring in Hebrew is one from his side. He took one from his side. And that makes you think that one's something from his side. But singular, in English, you have to make, you would take one something from his side. So you'd say it in English. It's the way of saying in Hebrew he took one of his sides.
Starting point is 00:30:51 That's the way in Hebrew to say one of his sides. Correct. Okay. Yes. He has two sides. Which makes perfect sense. He takes one. Because you got, yeah. You want to make two from one. That's right. Split them in half. Yeah. Make the two. This creature's name is the human ha-adam. split them in half. Yeah, make the two. This creature's name is the human ha-adam. And from ha-adam, he takes one of the sides and he built the side which he took from the human into and then it uses a specific term, woman. He built woman and he brought her to ha-adam, the human, and the human said, ah, this time, bone from my bone, flesh from my flesh, this one will be called ʻisha, because she was taken from not adam, but from ʻisha. So it's the human becomes man and woman.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Adam means humanity. Yep. ʻisha a singular man. Male. Male. And Isha. And then the word play works in English and in Hebrew. Woman.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Man. Man. Man. Isha. So here you go. Now you have one who mirrors him. One who counter parts. Yeah. From one, you now have more than one. And they are not identical. They are different. Which is what makes the Acer able to deliver the one. If part of the commission is being fruitful and multiplying.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Yeah. You do. Right? You need to hurt different genders to do that. Okay. So the narrator closes the story. Dear reader, for this reason, I want you to realize, this isn't just this interesting story about people in the past. He's telling this story as an archetypal here for the species, yeah? For this reason, a man in Ish will leave his father and mother, and he will cling to his Isha,
Starting point is 00:32:48 and they will become one flesh. And the two of them were naked. One body. Yeah, totally. And remember, he took the two, he took one of the sides, and closed the flesh, and he just said, this is my flesh. My flesh just went out of me.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Yeah. Because that one is flesh. Look at them, the flesh like I am. So we are two, but then the whole thing is, verse 24 is going into the reader's present, so it's being insane. Here's what's crazy. This is a world full of males and females. And you've got a male and female that you literally came from.
Starting point is 00:33:27 You're right. They're bodies. You are of their flesh. And that's why bone and flesh is kinship language here. So you go out there and there's someone that is a biological stranger to me, biologically or kinship wise.
Starting point is 00:33:43 And yet through marriage, we become one and then only together create a new one human. And so it's that mystery that from two who are become one, produce a biological one. But that close relationship has to be severed, so to speak, to go be joined to a biological stranger to repeat the process again. The relationship with your mother and father? Correct. It's pondering there's a oneness between a child and their parents, but there's also a oneness between a man, a husband and a wife, a wife and a husband, but there are different kinds
Starting point is 00:34:22 of oneness. Right. Yeah. Um, and somewhere in there is a mystery. The narrator wants us to ponder about the nature and identity of humans. Hmm. Yeah. I mean, he's getting philosophical here. The narrator is. You think the narrator is really thinking about this idea of what it means to be to have an identity. Yeah. To be an Adam. To be a human. Yeah. That yes, I am a human. I am me, apart from
Starting point is 00:34:55 anyone else. But to be fully human is actually being connected to others. And there are two examples here, is one is being connected to your mother and father. Yes, that's right. Yep, there's a oneness there. There's a oneness there. But then you actually go out. You go out and then you can find a new oneness, which is then this oneness is in male, female together,
Starting point is 00:35:23 which is calling back to the image of God being both male and female. Correct. Yes. Which allows you to multiply and do the art. Yeah, that's right. It's the same idea advanced through a different narrative. So in other words, this little scene here
Starting point is 00:35:38 is parallel to the ideas of that little poem in Genesis 1, that humanity images God in its unified state, but that unified state doesn't erase the diversity of the many that that humanity represents. In fact, it's going to be precisely through innumerable cycles of dividing and being reunited as one, that humanity images God. It's the dividing and multiplying and then unifying again. The whole thing is an image of the divine life. It's an image of God as a unified plurality that is eternally generating life.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I mean, I think that's the mystery who we're invited to here. Humans image God when I see my humanity only as it participates in others around me and as I become unified with them. But it doesn't mean that you're less human if you're an orphan or you stay single. That's one thing important that it's abstract
Starting point is 00:36:43 and that's important that there's two types of oneness talked about here. One is the oneness you share in a family, but then another is a oneness in how I relate to others around me. And here the example is marriage, but it's not the only example. The book of Genesis is going to go on to explore all kinds of other examples of how you can unify as a common humanity with others. But the two categories are here, family or marriage. And then this is the family of God video.
Starting point is 00:37:13 So God's purpose is to have a whole family of families that in their diversity reflect the image in all their uniqueness, but not their uniqueness at the expense of their unity. 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc
Starting point is 00:37:54 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc Let's go back to that example in the Church of the Annunciation from our previous conversation. It's one Jesus being represented visually, but it's precisely the hundred, some odd different ethnic portrayals of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:38:42 It's the differences between those, but the fact that they are representing one Jesus that makes it such a powerful experience to go there. It's the many and the one simultaneously. I love this making sense. This is the biblical author's getting philosophical here about human identity, but they're doing it through poetry and narrative. I don't know if I'm making any sense.
Starting point is 00:39:05 You are making sense, but I am also feeling like it's not completely landing for me. I love this image of 100 different portraits of the same thing, allows you to really begin to appreciate the essence of that thing. Because if I drew a picture of, let's just use another example other than Jesus, I drew a picture of, let's see his family. I drew a picture of a family. We put that up and there's a hundred other pictures of a family. If I just looked at my picture
Starting point is 00:39:37 of a family, I would get a concept of what a family is. But if I looked at a hundred different pictures of families from 100 different cultures, then I get this like more true picture of what a family actually is, and it's most universal sense. That's great. And all of a sudden you realize like, oh, I thought I knew what it meant to be a part of a family, but I realize that's just my experience of being a family, which is genuine. I'm a human.
Starting point is 00:40:12 But there's all of these other ways that people have experience being in a family and they're experiencing the same thing, but it's also different. It's different in its own unique ways. That's right. So now let's talk about human identity. I experience being a human because I have my own identity. And I have this body and this brain and I experience the world through my five senses and this is my paradigm of what it means to be a human. You have yours. If I just think, well, being a human is just what I experience. I'm limited to my experience. But if somehow I get connected to you in such an intimate way that now I understand
Starting point is 00:40:45 what it means for you to be a human, and I do that with a hundred other people, I have this much more fuller sense of what it really means to be human. Yeah, it's so much bigger. So much bigger. Then what you've first experienced. But then after you get to know those hundred other humans, your experience of your own individual humanity is not lost and it's not lost But it's not the same anymore right because it's now been enriched by Being connected to all these other people's experience of what it means to be a human And there's this sense of that we are called to not just live individually But we come from a collective, our family.
Starting point is 00:41:27 And we're also called to then unite with others. One specific way is marriage, but you're saying there's other applications of unity. For the sake of realizing what it really means to be human. Yes. And then, and to be human as a collective in a way that doesn't make you lose your reality. You think all of that, all those ideas are here. Yes, oh, absolutely. Those are the ideas that are the narratives trying to put in front of us.
Starting point is 00:41:59 And through the two examples of male and female, because they're kind of the most iconic examples of unity and difference. But as we're going to go on and see the same, all this design patterns, all this vocabulary of one and the two and flesh and bone are going to get repeated in all kinds of different relationships of uncles and nephews and cousins and brothers. And so this is kind of the core motif being introduced here. But all of this is about creating families.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Family. It's about the human family. The biblical story works off the premise and a claim that human identity, it's in a healthy way, it's formed only when it's connected and enriched by lots of other humans. Yeah. And in unity, recognizing that we are, they are one. Okay, so this is working in the abstract. Let's think about historical context.
Starting point is 00:42:55 So this, these texts are being generated by a family living in the hill country of what we today we call Israel-Palestine. It was a fairly small nation state, connected to an ethnic group that was a fairly insignificant player on the international scene. Yeah, I mean, you got Babylon and Assyria and Egypt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:17 And these guys are big players. Big players. And they all have family mythologies about how their family, their family is the real family, whether it's Babylon or Egypt. And then here in the Canaanite Hill Country, we've got all these tribes, the Hivites and the Archites and the Jebiusites, and they're all families. And you get the Philistines down on the coast, and they came from somewhere else in the Mediterranean, see the Myceneans and that. So it's all tribe and family.
Starting point is 00:43:47 And so you grew up in a world where you're a small, insulated people group that's looking out at a world of families and conflict. Well, because most of the time, if you run into another clan or tribe, yeah, they're a threat. You're they're a threat, or you need to find a way to make peace with them so that you can
Starting point is 00:44:08 coexist and maybe benefit from each other. Yeah. And so it's that right there, it's saying, for any of us to like exist and live here, we're all these family's intention, but yet we recognize that to move forward, we have to work together. And when we work together, when we unify, man things go great.
Starting point is 00:44:28 There's all this potential unleashed that wasn't there if we just stay insulated. And so that's a universal human experience. That my humanity can't actually only become what it's meant to be when I unify with other humans. And these two narratives are inviting us to ponder that mystery, almost in the abstract, as it were. And it creates a core need in the biblical story. Whatever humanity is going to be in the story, its ideal state is when it's at one, when it's unified. It's one. They have to diversify, they have to multiply, but we're going to need
Starting point is 00:45:06 for the ideal state, for God and these creatures to rule the world together as partners. They are going to have to become one. And where do you see that in Genesis 1 and 2? In Genesis 1, it would be that male and female, as they are fruitful and multiply, yet they are one they are fruitful and multiply, yet they are one species. They are ha-adam, humanity. And it's as one, it's as ha-adam that they image God together. It all goes back to that. God created humanity in his image. That's right. And so there's a collective humanity all together. Solidarity. Solidarity. And while where do we get humanity? Well, it's all of this reproduction of male and females. Yeah. Which creates these families, which is its own unity, which has its own kind of magic of being your one but two or one but many, that then all of these disparate families become humanity which together image God.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Yeah, it's through their difference becoming joining together as one that they are the image. Just as a different male and a female together through their difference, unifying as one, now we've got the image of God. So in Genesis 1, 27, God created humanity in his own image. Is that reflecting on a future state of humanity with many families? Or is that just saying, or is this very abstract, of like the potential of humanity? Yeah, well, I think from the perspective of the narrator,
Starting point is 00:46:39 from the person who wrote it, there's also families all over the world. Where did we all come from? Well, here's one thing. We are all one humanity that together reflects the divine image. I totally miss that when the translation is God created man in his own image. Oh, totally. I totally miss that. I agree. And so, a lot of my confusion is coming from the fact that I've read this verse many times,
Starting point is 00:47:02 and I never thought about that he's reflecting on humanity as a whole. As a whole. As a whole. God's image. Singles species. And it may be one, the translation man, because of the English word man, I think of a male human.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Yeah, I think of a male human. First of all, and then second is we are also in a culture that shaped how we think about human identity. That it's primarily something very individual as an individual possess. This is a completely different view of reality, that humans primarily have a collective identity and that my humanity as an individual is only fulfilled and complete when I realize my unity with that whole. And to get this all the groundwork for stuff, the apostles and Jesus just take for granted
Starting point is 00:47:50 when they start talking about the body of the Messiah. That's where heading the new humanity. That's where heading. But this is all the necessary groundwork to get there. Going back to just the people who wrote this, the hill country is realized, is realized living in, the hill country. Is it a light? It is real light, it's living in the Near East. And everyone's got their own origin stories that explain why they're important.
Starting point is 00:48:13 It's so fascinating that the origin story that they embrace, I guess, well, it's a minority report, like you said. Yeah. But the profits put forward is that all the nations are the image of God. Yes, that's total. That's exactly right. Because you would say, well, our nation is the image of God. Our nation is the image of God. And that's even a big step.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Because usually it's the king. The king of our nation is the image of God. Yeah, that's right. And we serve the king and he is God's representation. That's right. But here they're saying all nations, correct, in other words, most people groups tell their foundation story in a way that privileges their group as having a superiority over another family. Our family was founded by the gods, our kingdom, our family, that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:49:02 And that's for the other nations, they're subhuman. This is how the language of a family mythology works. It's you paint your origins as superior and other families as inferior and therefore deserving to be your slaves or wiped out or something. And yeah, so this is a remarkably universal and global international way of thinking about human identity at the beginning of the story. 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh
Starting point is 00:49:52 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh So the point here is in Genesis 1 and 2, some rise, we're thinking about humanity as a collective unified whole.
Starting point is 00:50:22 And that only as a collective unified whole do our humans the image of God, partners with God, to do the thing that God called them to do. Genesis 2.0 is in and gives us that idea from another narrative angle of a lone human. I can't do it. I can't do it. And then you dramatize it with the animals. Look, all they come in pairs. Yeah. But there's no human pair. God splits the human. And so the humanity becomes male and female. Have you ever tried to preach this during a marriage ceremony?
Starting point is 00:50:57 No. No. No one goes to a wedding to hear a sermon. No, but. No. But isn't it kind of like your obligation as like a pastor to hear a sermon. No, but. No. But isn't it kind of like your obligation as like a pastor to be like, well, they're not here to hear a sermon,
Starting point is 00:51:09 but I got them. No way. I'm giving them a sermon. I don't know. I never took it. I've been to those weddings. I have been there too. Different philosophies.
Starting point is 00:51:16 There's different philosophies of how to do a wedding. There are many expressions, human expressions, of how to do a wedding. Totally, if we put a hundred on the wall. That's right. We would see the fullness of them. That's right. No, you are there to celebrate marriage.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Yes. And to celebrate marriage. Yeah. Appreciate totally the mystery of what it is, of what it is, and how deep it goes. That's right. There are many ways to appreciate it. And one of them is to just experience it.
Starting point is 00:51:40 This was experience. Watch it happening. Yeah, that's true. Anyway, so the point is in Genesis 2, you go from the one to the many, the one becomes more than one, so that they can reunite so that the many can become one again. So now we can get the story moving and they can be what God called them to be. That's the narrative arc of Genesis 2. So it's making the same basic point as the poem in Genesis 1.
Starting point is 00:52:05 And so you walk out of the Garden of Eden and you're like, wow, man, if humans can be many and one through a commitment to each other at the same time, that would be a pretty sweet setup. And of course, it's precisely the unity between the two that is broken in Genesis 3. Yeah. The first casualty is not between God and humans. The first casualty after the humans eat from the forbidden tree is they knew that they were naked and then they hide their bodies from each other. Then they hide from God. They hide first from each other, their bodies. That unity is broken.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Their oneness, they're now estranged from each other because the two of them were naked and it's cool total vulnerability yeah and there's no shame the moment it's like being naked with yourself yeah we're chagas has its own shape so yeah totally yes yeah totally yeah um so okay where are we going from from here well from here it's going to be be how the narrative arc is going to focus on how humanity is becoming many, and that's the problem because of violence outside the garden. And so, there's going to be a human attempt to all become one again, or to retain a one ness of humanity, but in a not a good sense.
Starting point is 00:53:24 And this is called Babylon. And this comes back to the insight we made last episode, which is unity is going to happen. Ah, I see, yes. Yeah. That's just kind of the, that's just kind of like gravity happens. It's like almost like a law of nature of like,
Starting point is 00:53:42 there is going to be this more and more cooperation Yeah, but you said it's the story by which you are unifying Yeah, yeah, and that one leads to Babylon and one leads to the new humanity Yeah, and So that's what we're gonna kind of chase down. Yeah, the difference is gonna to be, are we going to unify in such a way that you have to lose your unique identity to become one with me? Or is there a way to become one where our unique identities are retained but transformed and enriched together by becoming one? The unity where one culture assimilates everything into itself to make it its own version
Starting point is 00:54:28 of one, this is called Babylon. But the version that both retains and enriches everyone's different humanity, this is called the Family of God, or the New Truth. Thanks for listening to this episode of the Biod project podcast. We are in the beginning of this series on the family of God. Next week we will continue the third episode, looking at the table of nations. It's a genealogy kind of, really more of an ethnographic map of the biblical world. And notice the kind of the categories here.
Starting point is 00:55:05 These are the nations, each and their language by their family, by their nation. We're building out the biblical world right here. These are all the characters we're going to play a role in the rest of the biblical story. This episode was produced by Dan Gummel, shown notes by Lindsay Ponder, and the theme music is by the band Tense.
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