BibleProject - The Drama We Don’t Know - Letters E5

Episode Date: July 13, 2020

The New Testament letters were written to address specific situations among specific groups of people. In this episode, Tim and Jon discuss how to discern situational context, what to do when informat...ion is missing, and how context helps us apply the wisdom of the letters today.View full show notes from this episode →Learn more about Classroom at Classroom.bible.Timestamps Part one (0:00–11:20)Part two (11:20–24:34)Part three (24:34–32:00)Part four (32:00–40:50)Part five (40:50–54:10)Part six (54:10–end)Show Music Defender Instrumental by TentsDreams by XanderCocktail Hour by StrehlowAcquired in Heaven by Beautiful EulogyShow produced by Dan Gummel and Camden McAfee. Powered and distributed by Simplecast.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, this is Cooper at Bible Project. I produce the podcast in Classroom. We've been exploring a theme called the City, and it's a pretty big theme. So we decided to do two separate Q and R episodes about it. We're currently taking questions for the second Q and R and we'd love to hear from you. Just record your question by July 21st
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Starting point is 00:00:39 Right now on the podcast, Tim and I are discussing how to read the New Testament letters. These letters are short books near the end of your Bible. They're letters from the early church fathers, like the Apostle Paul, Peter, and they're written to emerging Jesus' communities around the Roman world. Now, if you're like me, these letters are actually really familiar, because, well, they're kind of the most approachable books in the Bible they're easy to preach they've got a lot of
Starting point is 00:01:10 inspiring verses that make good bumpers tickers and motivational posters but one thing we've been really hammering on in this series is that these are letters meant to be read as a whole. Stop reading the letters as a grab bag of inspiring verses. I think that's not a helpful practice. However, you once you read through the whole letter and understand how it all works, there will be certain lines that pop. And so reading in context and the situational context doesn't prevent you from having inspiring
Starting point is 00:01:44 Bible verses. What it will do is't prevent you from having inspiring Bible verses. What it will do is actually help you understand the meaning for more. So today on the show, we're going to look at the situational context of the New Testament letters. Meaning, who are the people that the apostles were writing to? What were they going through? What was their world like? And as we peek behind the curtain, we'll discover there's a lot going on. Ah, here's interesting. Back to what Americans call first and second Corinthians. People in the UK call it one and two Corinthians.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Is actually two and four Corinthians. In First Corinthians chapter five 5 Paul says, in the earlier letter that I sent to you, and then what you find out is that they wrote a letter back to him with all these questions. Then instead of writing a letter, he came and visited in person, and it went terrible. You hear about this in 2 Corinthians. They had a huge fight, and they were really rude to him and insulted him.
Starting point is 00:02:43 And so he left and then he wrote in what calls the second Corinthians the letter of tears. A letter just written out of heartbreak and grief and they found some way whether it's a letter or a report to apologize to him and then that's why he writes what we call second Corinthians. So we don't have the letter of tears and we don't have first Corinthians. So already you're like, oh, this is complicated. That's all today on the podcast. Thanks for joining us.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Here we go. Here we go. So we're talking about how to read the Bible. Bible is a big book. Yes, it is. And we've been talking about how to read it for a while because there's a lot of different types of literary genres as they say.
Starting point is 00:03:31 We are towards the end of this series talking about how to read the New Testament letters. Yes, the letters from the circle of the apostles who were Jesus' closest followers or people that encountered Jesus and are writing letters to networks of house churches in cities around the ancient Mediterranean world. There you go. There you go.
Starting point is 00:03:55 There's 19 of them. Yes. Yeah. And they are packed with very memorable Bible verses That I grew up on. Yeah, your experience of them was that they're like what repositories. Yeah, tons of nice little one liners. Good one liners. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:13 If you ask them what their favorite verse is, it's probably coming from a letter. Yeah. Maybe a song. Yeah, it's interesting. Perhaps, but probably a letter. Yeah, I think we talked about this as we started this conversation in the series about their simultaneously the easiest parts of an intimate for some people to read.
Starting point is 00:04:34 They're most approachable. Yeah, they feel approachable because there's an eye writing to a you, and you feel like, hey, I'm the you, you know, I don't live in ancient Pontus or Galatia, to the impeter is writing, but you know, I follow Jesus and so did the original audience, so he's talking to me. There's that. Also, it feels like the Apostle writing it is explaining to you things, which other
Starting point is 00:04:55 places in the Bible, you're being told stories and there's poems and there's wisdom and you're kind of like you have to be almost like a detective. Yeah, yeah. And you're piecing it together yourself. And here's someone just breaking it down for you. Yeah. Let me explain this for you. Yes, it can appear that way. It can.
Starting point is 00:05:13 But yeah, what I think we're trying to do with this conversation and this particular video is to say they are actual letters written to actual people. And so while I am a follower of Jesus and these texts are for me, they're part of the gift of the prophets and apostles in the power of the Spirit to speak to God's people of all people all times. The way they were written to someone else. They were written to a specific audience. And the way that it is God's word for me has to take into account that it was
Starting point is 00:05:51 an apostolic letter to somebody in the first century. That is the way that it is God's words for me. So yeah, there you go. Here's the basic point. Anytime you are reading someone else's mail, which I hope is not often. I'm not. It's a federal offense in America. Anytime you are reading someone else's mail, which I hope is not often often It's a federal offense in America
Starting point is 00:06:09 Yeah, well now it's all email and you can read both sides Yeah, it's a good point. We're hacking into some of the email like you can point. Yeah We've all had the experience of listening to one side of a conversation That's right on a phone conversation. Correct. That's right. Yeah Most phone conversations between people who know each other happen at a specific moment in the relationship and there's a bunch of pre-history. Yeah. And then there's a current set of circumstances that motivate why people say what they say. That's the layer of context we're looking at now, but we've looked at a couple others. Yeah. I think the phone metaphor will work for this purpose. So there's four layers of context
Starting point is 00:06:44 we're going through. One is where do these letters fit in the overall story of the Bible, which is creation and then humans deciding, I don't want to partner with God on his terms, the fall, corruption of humanity, and then singling out one family through them to renew this partnership with humanity,
Starting point is 00:07:05 that not working, Jesus coming to be the faithful Israelite and the true human and his life, death and resurrection, being the climax of this whole story. And then now we get to the letters. So that's where we're at in the whole grand story. Yeah, yeah. And again, their first paragraph of Romans just serves it up so nicely,
Starting point is 00:07:27 that the apostles are commissioned by the risen Jesus, who is currently ruling heaven and earth. That's the true human image, the divine image. And he is sending out emissaries. We talked about how the word deputy for the apostles didn't quite work for you. I was thinking about this the other day, I was thinking, what about emissary? It's kind of a, it's not a word we use all the time. No.
Starting point is 00:07:51 For some reason, maybe it's in the news more, something deputies growing on me. Oh, is it okay? Yeah. Yeah, the deputee. But maybe emissary feels more royal or official, I don't know. Anyway, the apostles see themselves as emissaries of the cosmic ruler of the nations and as Paul puts it, his goal is to summon the nations to believing loyalty, the obedience of faith. And so that's it. The letters are written to networks of house communities
Starting point is 00:08:25 Yeah, that have signed on to give their believing loyalty to King Jesus and on analogy to the phone conversation Let's say you overheard me talking to my mom on a phone call Yeah, and in this part of the story of my relationship with my mom You know, I was a kid. Yeah, yeah, I grew up in a house with her And then I left the house. I got up in a house with her. And then I left the house, I got married, I have kids and now she has grandkids. And that's where I in our relationship,
Starting point is 00:08:52 the whole grand story of our relationship. But then there's another layer of context, which is we talked about last time, which is where my mom and I live in human history. Yeah, yeah. The city or nation that you live in. Yeah, and so we talked about just the setting of the Roman Empire.
Starting point is 00:09:09 That's right. And some of just the fabric of life and what Paul was dealing with when it comes to all sorts of issues, social, economic, gender, and then- Status, honor, shame, all this kind of stuff. Third layer of context that we're gonna talk about today is situational context is what you're calling it.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Yep, yeah. Which I imagine just being, what is the situation we're in right now? The prompts the letter. Yeah, so in the conversation with my mom, what spurred the phone call? Correct. Was I just calling to say hi?
Starting point is 00:09:43 Well, with someone that you're close to, any correspondence is just assumed as part of a much longer conversation and relationship. Yeah. So you can jump right in, for example, and just like start on something really specific. Yeah. You don't need to go through all the pleasantries.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Right. That's true. Now, with the letters, what we do have, almost all of the letters begin with a similar form. There's a few exceptions that are important, but almost all of them begin. And we'll actually talk about this in the second video, which is about the literary form of first century letters and how to follow a train of thought. But yeah, this is more about the history of a relationship. So yeah, that's basically it. So when we're picking up the letters, each of the letters was written by someone to somebody they knew or to a group of people that they
Starting point is 00:10:35 knew for specific reasons that are not always stated as explicitly as we might wish, but because they're not written to me. Just like you don't talk to your mom, with me in mind, listening in, or let's say you and your wife end up on a phone call, you're not like talking to her with me in mind so that I can understand as I sit across the room. So in the same way, what we have to do is detective work to figure out what's the situation here and how does that help me put into context the things
Starting point is 00:11:11 that Paul or Peter, the John, are saying. That's the basic point. That's the basic point. Yep. Turns out, it takes a little effort because sometimes it's not quite clear. And I just thought what we could do is just profile a handful of New Testament letters and Point out how you develop the skill should kind of show how you develop the skill of
Starting point is 00:11:33 Reconstructing or imagining the situation The prompted the letter. So shall we? Yes. I'm going to do a little bit of the same. I'm going to do a little bit of the same. I'm going to do a little bit of the same. I'm going to do a grab bag of inspiring verses. I think that's not a helpful practice. I could still have favorite verses, right? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Yeah, that's totally. Again, we're assuming in the series in conversation, somebody who's familiar with the Bible, but wants to take their reading skills and insight. It's not a treasure hunt for few good verses. Yeah, that's right. If I sit down and really craft a letter and make it well organized to someone, I'll be really disappointed if all they'd end up doing is never actually reading the whole thing, but just reading paragraphs at a time and then just selecting a sentence out. However, if you once you read through the whole letter and understand how it all works, there will be certain lines that pop. And so reading in context and the situational context doesn't prevent you from having inspiring Bible verses.
Starting point is 00:13:25 What it will do is actually help you understand them even more. So this isn't about, I've found over the years that people taking sentences out of context in the letters creates more challenges than it does help people. That's at least been my experience, but maybe that's not everybody else's experience. It's kind of weird to put it. Yeah. Here's the skill. Read the letters as a whole and just start collecting
Starting point is 00:13:52 observations about any time the author mentions the purpose of the letter or something happening among the addresses that prompted the writing of a letter. So let's do it with a short one. Galations, pulse letter to the churches of Galatians. Six chapters, not very long. You can read them like 15 minutes out loud, maybe 20. Depends on your speed. Maybe 10.
Starting point is 00:14:15 And maybe time you have to reread something. Well that's true. It's actually one of Paul's most dense letters. He packs like what would take me a page to write into three sentences, but anyway. You start off with Galatians. For example, you open up to Galatians. What do I do here? Paul to the churches of Galatia. Great. He's writing some people that he knows. And within the first paragraph, he says why he's writing the letter. You get it very clearly.
Starting point is 00:14:40 He says, I, in verse 6, I'm stunned that you are so quickly abandoning the one who called you by the grace of the Messiah for a different good news, a different gospel. And in Paul's mind, his whole reason for existence is to be a herald of the good news of Messiah, Jesus. So there you go. This is great. It's a little hanging fruit. My point is when you're reading Galatians, that should create a category in my mind of, okay. And when it be helpful to know what this other gospel is, and maybe, just more details. How many people are deserting? How big of a deal is this really?
Starting point is 00:15:20 Was it a few people? Was it the whole church? Was it really messy? Was it just a little bit of a problem you was trying to stem off? Yeah, exactly. Those are the questions that we don't have direct answers for. Yeah. You have to, it's a detective. You have to become a detective of these letters. So, somehow this phrase, different gospel, a different good news, is being propagated by somebody onto the Galatians.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And so what you have to do is as you read through, you have to start paying attention to what are the core issues that stay here, because he's not going to, just like you wouldn't look over to me while you're talking to your wife and be like, hey Tim, Tristan, I'm talking about this right now because- Yeah, give me some context because you're listening in. Yeah, you just have to read through the whole letter multiple times even to put it together. Okay, so what's interesting is right after he says
Starting point is 00:16:14 he stunned that they're being compelled by different good news, he goes into an autobiography about his story of how he gave his allegiance to Jesus. And he starts with a line saying, I want you to know, brothers and sisters, that the good news that I announced to you, I didn't make it up. So you have to say like, okay, why does he have to make this point? So what we're doing is when we watch one of the apostles really ride a point, we have to start to assume like somehow this matters. This matters or in this case, why does he need to make this
Starting point is 00:16:49 point that his gospel is not made up, but it's the real thing. Apparently some people are questioning. There's somebody telling the Galatians that the good news that Paul announced you is not the real thing. Now does he come out and say that? Not quite, but you can reconstruct the situation in your Paul announced you is not the real thing. Now does he come out and say that? Not quite, but you can reconstruct the situation in your mind. This is what people call reading between the lines. Reading in between the lines, or at least among New Testament scholars, this is called mirror reading.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Mirror reading. Mirror reading. The idea that with the letters, it's a different metaphor for the phone conversation only hearing one person. It's saying that what we are looking at in the letter is a mirror, and the mirror is reflecting real circumstances. But you can't actually see the real circumstances. All you see is one angle of the reflection of those circumstances in the mirror. So what you have to do is look at the only angle we have. Like when you're driving, you look in your rear mirror.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Oh, yeah. You can see what's behind you, but you only see. You only see it from one angle. From one perspective. It's not a complete picture. It's not a complete picture. What you might need to do is let the mirror, your rear mirror prompt you to then look over your shoulder to do the safety
Starting point is 00:18:05 look over your shoulder real quick. Yeah. Do you do those? Uh, my side view mirror was gone for a while. Oh, yeah, it got stoneless. I just fixed it. Oh, nice work. Yeah. I did it myself. I like you tear out the door. Yeah, I feel really accomplished. Yeah. You took your car door apart. Yeah. And put it back together. Surprisingly easy YouTube. Wow. You just watched a tutorial and amazing. And the side of your mirror is actually interesting because, you know, there's that big warning there, like objects in this mirror are closer than they appear.
Starting point is 00:18:37 No. Objects will be closer in real life than they appear in your mirror. Correct. So you get a perspective, but it's a partial. It's a partial perspective. It's actually a security look. And then once you do your safety look, you'll get another angle on the reality that'll help you understand the reflection in the mirror.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Oh, this is great. Let's go with this. So that's the skill we're trying to cultivate in the letters. What's the looking behind your shoulder? Ah, yeah, we can't. We can't. We can't. We can't.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Cultural context can't. We can't. Cultural context can help, but what we have to do is reconstruct what we think we would see if we could look over our shoulder. That's what you have to do. Wow. And it's like being a sleuth, a detective. It's called mirror reading. So we'll talk about some criteria, some helpful criteria for mirror reading, but I'm trying to illustrate, as we work through Galatians quickly, but not that quickly here. So it goes through and tells a story of how he was a zealous, Pharisee, and he met Jesus, Jesus appeared to him,
Starting point is 00:19:39 rocked his world, rocked his world so much he had to go to Arabia for some years and not talk to very many people Just process it process what happened then he talks about how he met with the original three James Peter and John in Jerusalem to be like hey, I met Jesus and this is the Viabum getting What he's all about I've been working this out. Yeah, and Arabia and James were a man Yeah, actually sorry what he says is, I saw none of the other apostles. I went to only Jacob or James,
Starting point is 00:20:10 that is the brother of Jesus. And later he's gonna go see the three and they're gonna give him the thumbs up. But then in Galatians 2, he starts telling the story about, you know, I went up to Jerusalem with Barnabas and I took this guy Titus who was not Jewish, he was actually Greek, and he wasn't circumcised.
Starting point is 00:20:29 He brings up circumcision here for the first time. And he says he wasn't compelled to be circumcised when we were going and meeting with the messianic Jewish leaders in Jerusalem. But then he says there were some faults, some false brothers, some false siblings who were spying on the freedom that we have in the Messiah to make us slaves. Galatians 2 and 4. So this is where we're going to see our profile of the different good news. And we're bringing it.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Yeah. So the different good news comes from followers of Jesus. But as you read on through the letter, they're Messianic, Jewish missionaries who are going following Paul's trail after him. And then trying to clean it up. Trying to convince people that you're not actually fully in the family of Jesus yet,
Starting point is 00:21:26 because Jesus was the Messiah of Israel. And Israel, he fulfills all the covenants with God's promises to Israel. So you need to become a part of the people of Israel to become a part of the family of Jesus. And at issue here is circumcision. And so all of a sudden, then circumcision becomes like one of the main front burner issue for the rest of the letter. It's all about circumcision. Which I don't know for, I don't know how that strikes you, but this was like, well, crisis for both. I think growing up in the church that's become a normalized conversation for some reason.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Interesting for me. Yeah, yeah. But it some reason. Oh, interesting. For me, yeah, yeah. But it is weird. It's strange. Yeah. That whole letter is wrapped around this procedure. But this was a very important sign of being a part of the covenant, the Abrahamic covenant. Yeah, literally a sign, a symbol.
Starting point is 00:22:20 A symbol. It was a symbolic behavior that had a whole story and worldview attached to it. We're going to do a theme video on circumcision. No, but you know when we do the family of God theme video, that will be part of it. Yeah, cool. Yeah. So essentially what the rest of the letter goes on is Paul's trying to show how this is contradictory to the good news, it's backwards, it doesn't make any sense. He's gonna tell a story about how Paul, he, and Peter were in Antioch, this is in chapter two, verse 11, which was the first real, fully multi-ethnic,
Starting point is 00:22:57 international Jesus network community in Antioch. And he talks about, I mean, this is Peter. He stands up to Peter and shames Peter in public, which is a bold thing to do. Yeah, I mean, Peter's Peter. And essentially, Peter was up there eating with non-Jews. And yeah, he was fine with it. And then all of a sudden, he calls the men from James, but what he means is these Messianic Jewish missionaries come up to Antioch claiming to represent James in Jerusalem, the brother of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And when Peter sees them show us up, he backs off. He stops hanging around non-Jews. We'll meet with him anymore. And what Paul says in chapter 2 verse 14 is when Peter did this, he was not, it's interesting verb reading an NIV. When I saw that when they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, that word acting in line in verse 14. Yes, he is not in step. Not in step. Yeah. So it's the word orthopedeo. It's where we get orthopedics. It's literally walking to walk in a straight line. So the good news marks out a path. And for a church leader who belongs to one ethnic group to stop associating with other followers of Jesus
Starting point is 00:24:18 who aren't a part of his ethnic group, he sees this as compromising the gospel. Out of step with the gospel. Yes, so let's just pause. So you begin to build this profile here. Whatever the different gospel is in Galatians, it's a gospel that raises ethnic differences above the unity that Jesus followers have in the Messiah. That's the different gospel.
Starting point is 00:24:43 And the means by which the crisis is happening in Glacier is around the symbol of circumcision, which is the ethnic boundary line that marks non-Jews from Jews. 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh
Starting point is 00:25:16 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh Now, we're actually getting a lot of backstory here. Totally. Which is wonderful. It's very helpful.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Very helpful. Like, you can imagine this letter wouldn't have needed so much backstory and he could have just been like, there's these guys, another gospel, and then he could just launch into what else he wants to say. And then we're like, the mirror reading becomes even really difficult. Yeah, totally. That's why I picked Galatians to start because it's easy. Got it. Yes, there are some challenges that work, but you can put together a lot just within the first couple chapters, but you have to be told that you need to learn how to do that or else you won't do it.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Honestly, what I would do is I would skim past this part because I'm in hunt for the like good versus. Oh, yeah. The meat. So I'd just be like, okay, back straight back. And then it's like, cool, let's get to something I can preach. Or something that I can.
Starting point is 00:26:38 I get it. Yeah, so the whole point is, it's a good example. The letter isn't written as a theology essay. It's a pastoral letter. And if when Paul gets into theology mode, it's always in service of the situation and the pastoral crisis or issue that he's addressing. So pretty much every section of the letter,
Starting point is 00:27:00 then you can go through and you can see that it serves addressing this issue. So we've talked about this line already in this series about reading the letters. When he gets to Galatians 3, he talks about verse 26, you are all sons of God through faith in the Messiah Jesus. You are all baptized into Messiah, you've closed yourself. There's no Jew or non-Jew, there's no Jew or Greek. But then he takes even wider than the situation at hand. There's no Jew or non-Jew, there's no Jew or Greek. But then he takes even wider than the situation at hand.
Starting point is 00:27:27 There's no slave or free, there's no male or female. You are all one in Messiah, Jesus. And if you belong to Messiah, you are all children of Abraham. Which is probably directly contradicting what these other people are saying. Exactly. You're not children of Abraham unless you get the code right, do the SNP. So here's what's great about Galatians 3 3 verses 26 of 28, which I just read. What we're watching Paul do is address one crisis of a different gospel. The different gospel is somebody introducing some boundary line,
Starting point is 00:27:59 some category of ethnic value or ethnic rank, right? Social rank and saying, this is what really defines the people of God. And Paul's response is, no, Jesus the Messiah who loved me and gave himself for me and for people of all nations is the real center of gravity. And if you have given your allegiance to him, that's what defines the people of God. Allegiance alone. Oh yeah, yeah, that's right. Believing loyalty, believing loyalty. Faith is how it often gets translated.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Yeah. But it's not just a mental act, it's a life posture of trust and loyalty. So when he says this is famous phrase, Galatians 328, there's neither Jew nor Greek. That's the issue in Galatia. Greek being any other type of... Correct. It's a Roman society. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Why does he say Greek? Oh, he brought up Titus earlier, who was Greek. And yeah, I mean, I think it's a fixed phrase by that point for Paul to the Jew first and to the Greek. But it's a way Greek as an icon of non-Jubation. That's right. So he has these three pairs that he says the gospel breaks down barriers. He brings up neither Jew nor Greek.
Starting point is 00:29:15 That's the specific issue that he's addressing in this letter. But then he includes two other pairs, neither slave nor free. So that's not the issue in Galatia. Well, at least that we know of. Oh, that we know of. That's right. But it is the explicit issue in his letter to Philemon. Yeah. There is neither male nor female. In other words, what we're watching Paul, Paul has a theology. Now we're getting to that. If you were to write a theology book,
Starting point is 00:29:41 Yes. We're getting a little hint as to what that would be. If we flipped over to unity in theology book. Yes. We're getting a little hint as to what that would be. If we flipped over to unity in the body in his theology dictionary. He would have a whole chapter on it. And he would spell it out theoretically. But we don't get that. What we get is Paul applying his theology in specific situations. And then he'll give us a little paragraph or a little few lines that you can tell
Starting point is 00:30:05 like, oh man, if he had written a systematic theology, these would be like a header or a chapter title or something. So, you're saying is through this situational context which was about circumcision, all of a sudden we get, it gives a spotlight that then we can look at and it gives us a view of a more grander theology. Correct. Even though he's addressing one situational context. Correct. All of a sudden he's now waxing on about
Starting point is 00:30:38 something much grander. In other words, if there was a church where slaves and masters or slaves and freedmen were not eating together at the same table, he would also be just as like riled up to write a letter. Yeah. It's all part of the same paradigm for him. That's right. If there was a church that was letting gender-powered structures and dynamics divide them as a church, he would be just as riled up and write the letter to the Leotusians or something or not. But the point is this here, yeah, he's, he sees this boundary line as a category that then prompts us the reader to be like,
Starting point is 00:31:15 wow, what's motivating this? Yeah, and what are, what are the boundary lines in my setting that won't be identical, but there'll be the same kinds of issues that I need to address with this same type of theology in my setting. He's hit the big ones. Yeah, totally. That's right. Ethnic, socioeconomic, and gender. Yeah, that's right. I'm trying to think of another one. So the point is that when we read the letters as really locked into a situational context, it doesn't trap them in that context. That's the way that we're going to discover how they can speak to other people and other cultures and times. It's not by neglecting their situational context.
Starting point is 00:32:00 It's actually the opposite. It's through that context. Okay, so that's Galatians. I think it would be helpful in the video to pick one and work with it. Do you want to do a couple others? Do it. All right. 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh
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Starting point is 00:32:42 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh 1 tbh I just want to do some short ones because they're, you know, let's do flippians. So this is a church that he planted. Ooh, this is good. Philippi, this is going to cultural context. Back a step. Back a step. Philippi was a Roman colony. In other words, it was a city that was declared a Roman colony.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And then a lot of it was retired military would retire to the colonies. And they would be given in a state as like kind of their retirement package for military service. But then in the colonies, they would essentially build these colony cities as little miniature roms. They would build the street patterns, they would build the architecture, they would build it to look like Rome. And the goal was basically to spread
Starting point is 00:33:38 Roman economy, power, infrastructure throughout the ancient world, but then all of these military personnel who get to go be the leaders of these new colonies feel like the emperor because they are like little emperors. Anyway, it's actually a great domination strategy if you're an empire. Build little outposts and you give money and power and property to people who get to pretend like they're little emperors. Yeah. It's a great idea.
Starting point is 00:34:07 If you're into the world domination kind of thing. So, Philippi is one of these colonies. So Paul chose this as a city where he would go start a house church and then probably a couple house churches by this point and to start a house church where people would be giving their allegiance to King Jesus. So he's writing this letter from prison. He were going to find out the opening paragraph. So he says Paul, right?
Starting point is 00:34:33 Paul and Timothy talk about why Timothy in the next video, second video, to God's holy people in Messiah Jesus, Philippi. In the opening paragraph, he goes on to thank God for them. And in the first, you know, sentences, he says, in all my prayers, I always pray with joy because of your partnership, your participation in the good news from the first day until now. So some reason why he's writing to them
Starting point is 00:35:00 is because they are partners in his mission of announcing the good news. That's interesting. So he's gonna go on to talk about how he's in prison and he knows that they are concerned about him and he wants to let them know that actually, you know, it's actually lame in prison, but this prison time has given me amazing opportunities to talk about King Jesus with the guards, with the officers, and really cool stuff is happening here in the prison. That's what it goes on to talk about. And then, oh yeah, look at this in verse 27 of chapter one.
Starting point is 00:35:35 He says, so whatever happens with me, I want you all to, NIV has conduct yourselves, conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the good news of the Messiah. Are you reading? I'm an ESV. Okay, what do you got? First, 27. Let your manner of life be worthy of the gospel of Christ. Yeah. The verb is Palatou am I? Palatou. Palatou. It's connected to our word politics. Let your political behavior and not in the American sense.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Yeah. Remember the Greek word, Paulus, it's the Greek word, Paulus is the word, city. Yeah. Yeah. Let your public behavior. So he's not just talking about like your way of life, the way, like internal compass or something. What he means is, live your life as a member of the city in a manner worthy of the good news that Jesus,
Starting point is 00:36:27 the risen Messiah, is the true king of the world. Your public life. Your public life. Let your public life and service in the city tell the story that Jesus, the Messiah, is king, the true king of the cosmos. So it's interesting. He's in prison because of the Roman power. He doesn't get to have a public life right now.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah, totally. But he knows that they can. And so he wants his boldness and suffering for the good news of Jesus to inspire them to live their public life worthy of the good news about Jesus. So you go on and throw out the letter and he's gonna, all of a sudden, start telling telling them to like get along. Hey, like start getting along. This isn't chapter two. He'll just start saying, okay, you guys now, if there's any encouragement, if there's any consolation, if you participate in the spirit, please make my joy complete, meaning stop bringing me grief. By having the same mind, being united in love and in the spirit, stop being selfish and retells the story of Jesus,
Starting point is 00:37:30 who gave up his great status and honor to die shamelessly so that he could be exalted and given the name Yahweh. And then, chapter 2 verse 14, so stop grumbling and disputing. So we're getting another picture here. So one he's grateful for them. Mm-hmm He knows they're in a difficult spot having to live on the public stage in a Roman city Which is gonna be challenging and there's a lot of in fighting In division people are frustrated with each other
Starting point is 00:37:59 Mm-hmm. So he goes on to tell stories about like Timothy. Hey you guys know Timothy. Oh, man You know, it's great about Timothy? He puts the needs of others ahead of himself. He like puts, holds up Timothy as this model of somebody. Then finally in chapter two of verse 25, we hear this, he says, listen, I'm gonna send this guy a paffer-dietus back to you. You sent him to minister to me in my needs.
Starting point is 00:38:24 And all of a sudden that first comment that he said, I thank God minister to me in my needs. And all of a sudden, that first comment that he said, I thank God for your participation in the gospel. What you can read on is to find out is that the Philippians sent one of their members, Paphroditus, to go to Paul money and food in prison. And that's why he wrote the letter. But Paphroditus also told him that like, hey, there's some people who don't get along. He's actually going to name two of them in chapter four, verse two. It's two women leaders in the church, Eurodia and Suntuke. He says in chapter four, verse two, I urge Eurodia and Suntuke to live in harmony. He says these women have shared in my wrestling for the gospel.
Starting point is 00:39:04 These are co-workers with Paul. He's like, these women are awesome. And they've been important leaders in the mission of the gospel in Philippi, together with Clement, but they're in a fight right now. A pathoridist told me, so please urge them to get along. You're assuming that a pathoridist told him. Yeah, how else would he know?
Starting point is 00:39:22 How else would he know? Yeah, that's the inference. Yeah, that's the like know? How else would he know? Yeah. That's the inference. Yeah, that's the like reconstructing the look over your shoulder. Correct. Then finally, he says it down in chapter four verse 14. He says, it was so good of you all to share in my troubles. As Euflipians know, in the early days of your acquaintance with the gospel when I sent out from Macedonia, no other church
Starting point is 00:39:45 shared with me in the matter of giving and receiving just you guys. You guys were my sole financial sponsors for a season. Even when I was in Thessalonica, you sent me aid more than once. And listen, it's not that like I want your money. What I want is for something to be credited to your account. So I've received the full payment. I've got more than enough. I'm amply supplied now that I've received from a Pafferditis, the gifts that you sent. They're a beautiful offering.
Starting point is 00:40:15 God is really pleased. So it's not till the end. Rome said at the end of the letter that you find out the real practical circumstance of. That a Pafferditis came with some really great stuff. Cash, cash money. You think it was just cash? Yeah, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:35 But he's well supplied. Yep, Roman prisons were not like. They didn't feed you. Yeah, you survive in a Roman prison because your friends take care of you. So just all of a sudden, Philippians, I feel like pops. All of a sudden, you're set to go reread it now, and all of these different sections of the letter will take on new resonance, new significance
Starting point is 00:40:55 when you realize that this is the dynamic. So this is the skill to cultivate. There are some letters where it's difficult or almost impossible to do a thorough mirror reading. There's some where it's easier, but you have questions. Well, I'd love to look at one that you think is impossible. Oh, okay. All right, let's talk about the letters to the end. Here's interesting, back.
Starting point is 00:41:52 What Americans call first and second Corinthians, or what at least I know. One and two Corinthians. Yeah, people in the UK call it one and two Corinthians. Which makes a lot of sense because there's no little apostrophe ST anywhere. What we call one and two Corinthians is actually two and four Corinthians. In 1 Corinthians chapter 5, Paul says that in the earlier letter that I sent to you in chapter 5 verse 9, he mentions that he's already written an earlier letter. And then what you find out is that they wrote a letter back to him with all these questions about his first letter, which apparently they thought was unclear or had some stuff that
Starting point is 00:42:36 bothered them. And he references the letter they wrote him in chapter 7 verse 1. Now about the things that you wrote to me. So there was first Corinthians. Then they responded with a letter. Then he's writing now this letter, which is actually. The second letter. His second letter, but we call it first Corinthians.
Starting point is 00:42:56 So then what he finds out is that they didn't like this letter, things in this letter either. And so they write a letter back to him. Then instead of writing a letter, he came and visited in person and it went terrible. You hear about this in 2nd Corinthians. They had a huge fight and they were really rude to him and insulted him. And so he left. And then he wrote in what he calls in second Corinthians the letter of tears,
Starting point is 00:43:26 a letter just written out of heartbreak and grief. And they found some way whether it's a letter or a report to apologize to him and then that's why he writes what we call second Corinthians. Oh, we don't have the letter of tears. So we don't have the letter of tears and we don't have... The very first letter. First Corinthians. So we have second and fourth. And that interesting. So already you're like, oh, this is complicated.
Starting point is 00:43:53 There it is. This is a whole long, drawn out drama. Paul spent a year and a half in Corinth. We learned in the book of Acts. He knew these people really well. And there was a lot of really messed up stuff going on in these house churches and Corinth. And so when you're reading First Corinthians, Paul is in like very personal, emotive kind of mode and posture. And he'll very quickly refer to things.
Starting point is 00:44:21 There's a whole backstory too that we just simply don't know. So this is right in an opening paragraph in 1 Corinthians 1. This is a good one. So this is starting in verse 10, chapter 1. He says, okay. So I appeal to you, urge you, brothers and sisters, in the name of the Lord Jesus Messiah, that you all agree with each other, and what you say, and that they're stop being divisions among you, but that you be united in mind and thought. So there's a theme here.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Yeah. In pause letters. Oh, well, that's true. Division. Division. Unity. Unity. It's everywhere.
Starting point is 00:44:58 It was the main thing. The new humanity doesn't live by the tribal cultural boundary lines that humans love to create to give themselves value. So yes, the church is splitting for what reasons? Verse 11, well my brothers and sisters, some people from Chloe's house have informed me that there are quarrels among you. So who's Chloe? So she's apparently a house church leader. There's a group of Jesus followers that meets in her house.
Starting point is 00:45:30 And they have somehow reached out to Chloe, reached out to Paul, or what he says is some people from Chloe reached out. So what I mean is this. One of you is saying, I follow Paul, but another group is saying, I follow a Paulos. And yet another says, I follow Kethos, Peter. And yet another says, I just follow the Messiah. So we've got the church is divided based on their favorite church leaders in theologians and pastors.
Starting point is 00:46:07 And they're like badmouthing each other. Yeah. It's a good thing that doesn't happen anymore. I love this paragraph. He says, is Christ a Messiah divided? Was it Paul that was crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul? I thank God that I did not
Starting point is 00:46:25 baptize any of you. Oh, well, sorry. I did Chris Bess and Gaius, so that none of you can say that you were baptized in my name. And then look, he has, we remember some more people. And he's like, oh, wait, yes, yes, I also baptized the house of Stefanoz. Beyond that, I don't remember if I baptized anybody else. That's not the point. Verse 17, Christ didn't send me to baptized, but to announce the good news. And not with wisdom and eloquence, less the cross of the Messiah be emptied of its power. And so he goes on, which feels like a tangent, but that's another theme he's always kind of talking about. What's that? Oh, the wisdom and elegance. Yeah, yeah. So let's pause.
Starting point is 00:47:05 So first we can see here, there's divisions in the church. It launches them on this little tangent paragraph where he's like recalling on the spot. Yeah. Like, listen, oh, I who baptized you? Yeah. I didn't baptize anybody. Well, oh yeah, those two people.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Oh yeah, that's what's happening. That's what's happening. Oh yeah, excuse me. Oh yeah, yeah, that's funny. It's, I always like that. This, I mean, yeah, excuse me. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's funny. It's not, anyway. I always like that. This, I mean, the humanity of the Bible really shines here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Clearly, he's just in the moment. Totally. Yeah. And, yeah, that's right. The spirit has given us the gift of this paragraph in Holy Scripture. So, what he goes on for the next couple chapters is to talk about how the message about the cross doesn't fit the categories of what Greeks and Romans considered high society eloquent, reasonable wisdom, this kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:47:55 He's still writing the theme here of the popular teachers and speakers. Right, okay. So, and what we know about Apollo was from the book of Acts is that he was from Alexandria, which produced premier philosophers and public speakers. And people think Apollos is a better communicator than Paul. Yeah. He could preach, he could bring it. He was a better preacher.
Starting point is 00:48:18 And so Paul goes into these chapters one through three to talk about how, listen, it doesn't matter how, I would put you on speech. No, like it's, because that's all about status. Remember, in the honor of shame rankings, your family pedigree, but your ability to speak in public.
Starting point is 00:48:37 All right. Told the story about your education, which told the story about what kind of family you came from, because one of the core curriculum in Roman education is rhetoric, public speech. Now Paul was educated. Oh yeah, but apparently he wasn't a very good public speaker. Now you read Acts and you're like, well, he could work a room.
Starting point is 00:48:58 He could work like a royal court. Yeah, wasn't it? No, it wasn't him. Who was it that like the all-nighter? That was pretty. Yeah, totally. That's right. But at least the point is, according to the Corinthians standards,
Starting point is 00:49:10 yeah, he could step it up a notch. They think he could improve. And so he gives us long, this long defense. So again, we have to put together here from reading first and second Corinthians, this whole backstory about how they thought Paul was not a good public speaker. He brings it up in second Corinthians more. So there are some that are challenging.
Starting point is 00:49:31 There are some that are nearly impossible, like in first Corinthians, here's been a challenge for mirror reading for a long time. First Corinthians 15. You know where we're going. I think so, yeah. Is this about baptizing for the dead? Yeah, a whole chapter is there are some Corinthians who think that the physical resurrection from the dead is ridiculous and logically impossible. And therefore, Jesus' resurrection from the dead must not have been
Starting point is 00:49:58 his actual physical body being transformed. They think it's ridiculous. So he goes through a whole complicated long, thorough line of thought, showing how, no, new creation, the resurrection body is physical. It's a different kind of physical, but it is physical. But he does in verse 29, he includes this line here that says, now if there's no such thing as a resurrection, he's trying to poke holes in their logic. There's no such thing as a resurrection. He's trying to poke holes in their logic. What's gonna happen?
Starting point is 00:50:25 What will people do who are being baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized for them? And here's another reason. Why would I endanger my very life all the time for the good news of the risen Jesus if there's no such thing as a resurrection? And he just moves on.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Yeah. So there's some such thing as a resurrection. He just moves on. So there's some practice that's connected to baptism for the dead ones. What's that? He just, what is that? Exactly. Okay, I'm not gonna go into whole books and stacks of books are written on the topic.
Starting point is 00:50:59 But the point is, there's no mere reading that you can do to reconstruct that out of the letters. Yeah, but people have varying degrees of confidence with being able to reconstruct this practice and what it meant and why they did it. But it's not referenced anywhere else in the New Testament. There may be some other references to something like it
Starting point is 00:51:18 and other Jewish literature of the period. And it's very difficult to know what he's talking about here. This is a good example where we have to say, ah, okay, we'll give our best informed scholarly guests. And these are the things that bug me the most about the letters. Yeah. Especially when he comes to this paradigm
Starting point is 00:51:37 of this was written for me. Well, for you or to you? Well, but even for me, like, you know, I guess I have to say this was written for me, but even there, the Bible was written for me in terms of its design by the Spirit for the people of God. But this, if it was really written for me, specifically, it probably would be a lot more backstory. So I feel like I'm just, feel like I'm eavesdropping. And if it was written for me, why do I have to eavesdropping?
Starting point is 00:52:17 Now, I think I know what you mean when you say for me, this is what I have. And God's wisdom, this is what we have. Yep, that's right. But I'm the East droppin'. Yeah, there's nothing for it, John. This is moments of disorientation when you realize, oh, what the Bible is is different than what I expected it would be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:40 And those are always challenging moments that force you to expand your picture of who God is, who I am, and what these texts are for, and why they were given to God's people by the Spirit. And we're reading the mail. We're reading other people's mail. And it's by understanding it as someone else has mailed it, I think it actually can speak to us. But in a matter like this, in First Corinthians, which is baptism for the dead, this is a moment where we just have to say,
Starting point is 00:53:11 yeah, that one's lost to history in terms of certainty about what's happening there. And if the spirit wanted us to know more about that, then I guess that we would have more information. But apparently that's not the main point here. Well, this point stands in that he's saying, yeah, yeah, yeah. Does the resurrection of the physical resurrection happen or not? Correct. And so one of the things he points to is there's this practice, people are baptizing themselves on behalf of people who have already died.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Now if resurrection doesn't happen, why are they doing that? Correct. not teasing themselves on behalf of people who have already died. Now if resurrection doesn't happen, why are they doing that? They obviously believe resurrection is a physical thing. That's right. No, in other words, he's not even endorsing. He's not promoting it. No, and we don't even know if these people are, Jesus' followers are not, and we can assume that they might be, I guess you can assume that they are.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Yeah, in other words, he's trying to rent think of every reason possible to expose the logical inconsistency in their thinking. And oftentimes, yeah, a good debater will create a list of reasons that aren't of equal value to them personally, but they're just trying to really drive their point home. It's clear he's in that kind of mode. Yeah, because he follows it up immediately in the next breath without a transition. And also, why would I put myself in physical home?
Starting point is 00:54:31 As another point. Correct. Yeah, he's moving through a list of reasons. That's right. Where are we going from here? Oh, okay. Okay. So, you've got the basic point that you can read through the letters as a whole and begin to build a profile of the situation, the situational context.
Starting point is 00:55:01 So sometimes it's easy, sometimes it's hard. So yeah, in a next step There's a handful of scholars who have really Written some insightful essays on this to help kind of give you a little toolset for doing this kind of mirror reading Understand the situational context. I want to explore them because they can give us some guardrails on this practice the skill And then I want to flesh it out with an example that I think we could use in the video that could be pretty cool, and that's the situational context that Paul's letter to the Romans, which is so fascinating.
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