BibleProject - The Salt of the Land and the Light of the World
Episode Date: February 19, 2024Sermon on the Mount E8 – Why does Jesus call his followers salt and light? In the Hebrew Bible, salt is a metaphor for God’s long-lasting covenant with Israel, connected to priestly sacrifices, ri...tual purity, and social bonds. And the Hebrew word for light, or, shares a wordplay with torah, meaning God’s wise instruction. God’s wisdom given in the Torah is a light for Israel that they are called to share with the nations. In this episode, Jon and Tim discuss the meanings of salt and light, showing how Jesus applies these covenant words to his new community of followers.View more resources on our website →Timestamps Chapter 1: The Meaning of Salt and Light in the Bible (0:00-9:29)Chapter 2: A Key Hebrew Wordplay Between “Light” and “Instruction” (9:29-11:49)Chapter 3: Light and God’s Torah in the Book of Isaiah (11:49-29:21)Chapter 4: Salt and Light as Metaphors for the Covenant (29:21-46:29)Referenced ResourcesMatthew 1-7: Volume 1 (International Critical Commentary) by W.D Davies, Dale C. Allison Jr., and Christopher M. Tuckett The Sermon on the Mount and Human Flourishing: A Theological Commentary by Jonathan T. PenningtonCheck out Tim’s library here.You can experience our entire library of resources in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Show Music Original Sermon on the Mount music by Richie KohenBibleProject theme song by TENTSShow CreditsDan Gummel is the creative producer for today’s show, and Tim Mackie is the lead scholar. Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer; Cooper Peltz, managing producer; Colin Wilson, producer; and Stephanie Tam, consultant and editor. Tyler Bailey is our audio editor and engineer, and he provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Special thanks to Jonathan Penngington. Today’s hosts are Jon Collins and Michelle Jones.Powered and distributed by Simplecast.
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This is Bible Project Podcast and this year we're reading through the Sermon on the Mount.
I'm John Collins and with me is co-host Michelle Jones.
Hi, Michelle.
Hi, John.
So today we're going to read a well-known part of the Sermon on the Mount.
Jesus calls his followers the light of the world.
Yeah, Jesus gets this straight from the prophet Isaiah.
Here's Tim.
The key point is that God's light and God's instruction
shine out to the world to show the way to true life.
And Jesus is assuming and building on Isaiah's wordplay
and that's gonna play a key role
in understanding what he means.
But before Jesus says you are the light of the world,
he says something that's a little harder to understand.
He says you are the salt of the land.
That's less intuitive.
What does it mean to be salt?
Well, that's where Tim is going to start today.
We're going to look at the many different ways
that salt is used in the ancient world,
and we'll puzzle over why Jesus calls us salt.
Thanks for joining us.
Here we go. Hey, Tim. Hey, John. Hi. Hey, we're in the introduction of the Sermon on the Mount.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, we've been exploring the opening kind of movement of Jesus' Sermon on the Mount.
And so we're talking here about how Jesus calls his followers the salt of the land, the
light of the world and a city set up on a mountain.
Yeah.
Three images, which are three metaphors, we'll go through them.
We'll also think of them in two buckets, right?
Yeah, that's right.
The salt of the land is named first and he tells a little parable, a little almost riddle about the salt.
And then he bundles together the metaphors of the light of the world and the city on the hill.
Those are really tightly bound together and for important reasons
because they're tightly bound together in the section of the Hebrew Bible that Jesus is hinting at.
So while we think of them as three separate metaphors, we can also think of them as two separate images.
Two images, but they work together in a really important way.
Okay.
So that's what we're talking about, how Jesus calls his followers the salt of the land,
light of the world, and the city on the hill.
What does it mean, Jesus?
What did you mean?
First, let's just kind of read through these. Maybe John, I'll let you
perform a reading of Matthew chapter 5 verses 13 through 16.
form a reading of Matthew chapter 5 verses 13 through 16. Y'all are the salt of the land, but if the salt loses flavor, with what can it be made
salty again?
What makes salt salty again?
It's useful for nothing except to be thrown out and stepped on by humans.
Y'all are the light of the world, a city that is set up on a mountain isn't able to be hidden,
and they don't light a candle and place it under a basket, rather upon a candle stand,
and it will shine on everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before humans
so that they can see your good works, and so they can give honor to your father who is in the skies.
So these images are about who Jesus imagines his followers are in the world, like who they
are to other people.
And he starts with salt, light, and then in the city.
So salt, let's start with salt since Jesus does.
And this is a bit of a puzzle.
This is actually quite a complex puzzle.
The puzzle is what is it?
What does it mean?
What does it mean?
So salt is, I mean, the most universal of human foods or preservatives or flavors.
Salt is actually a very universal item used across cultures, human cultures, but it does
lots of different things, which means it has lots of different metaphorical associations.
It can mean a many things.
Totally, yeah.
So I found very helpful the work of two scholars, a combined commentary on Matthew by W.D. Davies and Dale Allison.
It's an exhaustive commentary. I think I've quoted it many times already and I will quote it many
times again. They have an amazing comprehensive discussion of all the possible meanings of salt
that scholars have suggested throughout the centuries as to what Jesus could mean.
They've come up with 11
different possibilities.
Wow.
So just a quick sketch here. In the Hebrew Bible, salt is described many times as a crucial
element added to Israel's sacrifices, the animal sacrifices offered to God.
There is an important phrase used multiple times in the Hebrew Bible called the salt of
the covenant. Israel's covenant with God is somehow to be symbolized by a heap of salt.
Okay. And the covenant meaning their relational agreement commitment to God.
Yep. That's right. Salt is connected to purity. Salt is often used to wash or purify things.
Undrinkable water is purified with salt, interestingly, in a story about Elisha, the prophet.
Salt is a condiment for food.
There it is.
That's the one I know.
Yeah, it's like an additive.
That's how I use salt.
It brings out flavor.
Yeah.
That's mentioned one time in the Hebrew Bible and in many cultures around the world.
Maybe something that is less prominent for modern people who have refrigerators, but
in the pre-refrigeration age, salt was a crucial preservative for both foods and meat.
It may so that food didn't spoil fast.
Yeah.
Salted meat was the way to make meat last more than a couple days until it goes bad.
The phrase eating salt with someone or sharing salt with someone is a phrase of being friends with them.
That's cool.
I think it becomes shorthand for sharing a meal, but it's like, hey, past the salt.
Past the salt means let's be friends.
Yeah.
Yeah. I. Yeah.
I love that.
Yep.
Perhaps that's why salt and a couple sayings in the New Testament, one of Jesus, salt is
linked with peace between people.
There's this phrase in Mark chapter nine where Jesus says, have salt in yourselves and be
at peace with one another.
It's very interesting.
Ah, in Greek mythology, salt is beloved by the gods. If salt makes
food enjoyable for humans and if sacrifices are like offering food to the gods, then offer
salt with the sacrifice. So the fact that salt is added to sacrifices is a cross-cultural
phenomenon in the ancient east. But what does it mean?
What does it mean?
So, how do we get leverage here?
This is a wonderful example of when you have a passage
or an image in the Bible, it's capable of many meetings.
How do you know?
Which is the more precisely intended nuance?
Because what you're saying is all of these could have been
on Jesus' mind. Yeah, Because what you're saying is all of these could have been on Jesus' mind.
Yeah, is what he's saying,
that you all make the world taste a little bit better?
Are you like the seasoning of the world?
Yeah, I've heard that preach.
Make life a little spicy?
Yeah.
Is it, y'all are the way that the world will be preserved?
Like everybody's gonna destroy the world.
The world's like a big hunk of meat
and you're preserving it with salt.
But if my followers live by my teachings,
the world will be preserved.
Is that what he means?
Does he mean you are the way the world will be purified?
Salt's purity, does he mean you all are
the way God's covenant with Israel
is going to be embodied in a new generation.
Because salt represented the covenant.
Yeah. Yeah. So, like which one? How do we know?
Yeah.
So, one way to think about how to solve this riddle of the salt is to notice that Jesus has
paired the salt of the land very closely with the two other metaphors, the light of the world
and the city on the hill that shines its light
out to the nations. So instead of solving salt, let's look at the light of the world, it's much
clearer. Yes. And if it's connected, then we'll know what Jesus is gonna get at the salt. Yes.
And so actually, I gained this insight from another scholar that I've been mentioning throughout
the series, New Testament scholar, Jonathan Pennington. And he draws attention to the fact that salt
is connected in terms of meaning with the images of the light in the city on the hill,
and that the light in the city on the hill have a very clear reference to a specific
set of passages in the Hebrew Bible. And if we understand those, those kind of give us
some like backwards insight into the meanings of salt that Jesus likely had in mind.
So what we're going to do first here is dive into what it means that Jesus calls his followers
the light of the world and the city on the hill that shines its light to the nations and they
can't be hidden.
on the hill that shines its light to the nations and they can't be hidden.
So before we take a dive into that, first there's just a fundamental underlying
kind of Hebrew pun that Jesus is working on here. So in the Hebrew Bible, specifically in the book of the prophet Isaiah, in the scroll of Isaiah, there's a key wordplay between the word light, which links all the
way back to day one of Genesis.
Let there be light.
Let there be light. The Hebrew word for light is or. You could maybe translate it just or
in Hebrew or.
I love how soft your role is.
Oh, thanks.
I've worked on it.
So that's or is word light.
The word underneath the noun Torah is Yara,
but you can hear the rhyming of or light Torah.
Yeah.
Instruction or law.
Or light Torah.
What was that other word you said?
Well, okay.
Torah is a noun that comes from Hebrew verb yara, but when you say it in the form of
to give instruction or to teach somebody, it's yore.
Okay, well, slow down.
Okay, I got Or.
Or is light.
Torah means instruction.
Instruction and Jore means to give instruction.
To give instruction.
Yeah, that's right.
And Torah means the instruction that you were given, essentially.
Exactly right.
And they all have that Or.
They all have Or as a key part.
Jore, Torah. And the prophet Isaiah used that connection between light and God's Torah instructing people.
He put that wordplay to good use.
Yeah.
In a key set of poems that we're going to look at.
Key point is that God's light and God's instruction shine out to the world
to show the way to true life. And Jesus is assuming and building on Isaiah's word play
and that's going to play a key role in understanding what he means. You know what's dawning on me?
That light as a metaphor for wisdom and understanding is also really common in English.
Totally.
Like if I were to draw a picture of having an idea, I would draw a light bulb over my
head.
Exactly.
Or when you see the light, like you finally understand or accept something.
Or like a clever realization is a bright idea.
Enlighten me.
Asking somebody to explain something more clearly.
Enlighten me.
Yes.
Thanks, Michelle.
You've really shed some light on this.
OK, so next we're going to have Tim walk us through how the prophet Isaiah pushes this
metaphor forward. Let's listen in. All right, so Jesus is appealing to the scroll of Isaiah when he references the light of the world and the city on the hill.
This is a key, key motif that runs right throughout the scroll of Isaiah from beginning to end.
And it begins most explicitly in what we call Isaiah chapter two, which is kind of the second
main literary unit that opens up the scroll. Isaiah is building on
the key metaphor of light as God's life, goodness and order, bringing instruction and word,
all of that from day one of Genesis. That's like that idea is so buried in Isaiah's consciousness
that it just comes, it leaks out in his poetry. But here he's thinking
not about the past, but about something God has in store for the future for his people,
Israel. And the poem in Isaiah chapter two goes like this.
It will come about in the last days that the mountain, the mountain of the house of the Lord will be established as the head
of the mountains.
It will be raised up above the hills and all the nations will river up to it.
And many peoples will say, come, let us go up to the mountain of Yahweh, to the house
of the God of Jacob, that he may...
Torah.
Yeah.
He may give us Torah, or it's that verb, yore.
Oh, this is the verb.
Yore.
Yeah, yore.
He may teach us concerning his ways, that we may walk in his paths because the Torah will go forth out of Zion and the word of Yahweh from Jerusalem.
Okay, so let's pause right there.
So the scene is that Jerusalem and the temple, which was kind of the highest point of ancient Jerusalem,
is itself on this hillside with valleys all around it. Yeah. Literally surrounded by valleys on three or four sides.
It's not the tallest hill in even in that region.
Right. It's a pretty tall hill, but it's not the tallest hill.
Yeah. And it's not what I would typically call a mountain.
No, it looks like a hillside surrounded by many hillsides, a couple of which are taller.
But these are mountains.
Well, that depends on where you live.
It depends on where you live.
Because if you live in a really flat region.
Yeah.
Any hill.
Anything that's a couple hundred feet high is like a mountain, you know.
But the point is that this hill, its cosmic significance, the role that God destines this
hill and the temple on it to play, will make it like the highest of all the mountains and who cares about tall mountains. Oh
Most humans have for most of human history
Okay, sure. Yeah mountains are associated with places where earth
Reaches up to touch heaven and where heaven and earth overlap. There's some epic scenic
They're highest places.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
There's something about the elevation though.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, the elevation of earth up into the skies.
Okay.
Mountains are viewed in the Hebrew Bible symbolically as places where heaven and earth are one,
which is why Eden is described as being a high and holy mountain, Mount Sinai, Mount Carmel in the story of Elijah,
and then here, Jerusalem, the mountain of the Lord.
And actually there's an allusion to the Garden of Eden here
with all the nations rivering up to it.
Mm, because there's the river that goes out of Eden
to all the nations.
Yeah, yeah, the word they use in the poem,
the nations will river up to it,
is using a verb, Nahr, that
corresponds to a noun in the Garden of Eden story, which is a Nahr river flowed out of
Eden and split into four heads that watered the nations of the land.
But now the nations are the river.
And they're coming back up.
And they're not flowing out, they're coming back in.
When they go in, they're going to get God's Torah.
God's instruction is teaching.
So God will teach them, yore, and then God's instruction, Torah will go out.
So the nations go in and they are taught and they are instructed and then the instruction
also goes out to presumably instruct even more. Okay, so what happens when God's instruction?
Reshapes the minds and hearts of the nations verse 4 he will bring justice between nations
He will render decisions on behalf of many people's render decisions. You'll see our immediate
Subtle disputes. Yeah. Yeah, that's it here
So like this nation's like, no, those are my wells. And the other nation's like, no, those are our wells. And then God will
be like, no, you guys get two, you guys get two. And that's how it's going to be. Now you each have
two wells. And they're like, cool, cool, we won't kill each other now. So that one of us can have four wells. Yeah.
You know, I mean.
Because we probably will.
That's how humans roll, you know.
So when you get the divine judge mediating peace between the nations,
what happens?
The nations will hammer their swords into plow blades.
If we don't need to kill each other anymore,
let's use those swords to grow some food.
Yeah. Yeah. Let's hammer spears into prow blades. If we don't need to kill each other anymore, let's use those swords to grow some food. Yeah, yeah, let's hammer spears into pruning blades
to like prune, you know, your fig trees.
Imagine all of the budget that goes in.
Oh my goodness.
To developing things that are designed to kill people.
It's horrendous.
It's horrible.
And most, you know, nations that can afford to do so.
This is a huge amount.
And so just to say like that, it reflects something.
Yeah, yeah.
So imagine a world where all of that budget-
Is reallocated.
Goes in to farming.
Yeah, metaphorically.
To making food and shelter.
Yeah, well, I guess not metaphorically here,
but in a way metaphorically, sustenance and life.
Yeah. That's a world where people's minds and hearts have been shaped by the life-giving,
generous instruction of God. Yeah. So, this is what it means when instruction, when Torah goes out
to the nations. Okay. So, the last line of this opening poem is the prophet now talking to Israel saying,
come, house of Jacob, Jacob is Israel's ancestor, let us walk in the light of Yahweh, the ore.
So it's a little word play. So God is shining a light on Israel whose capital city is the city on the hill and Jerusalem.
And that light is meant to saturate Israel and guide their path so that they walk in
it.
And if Israel lives in the ore of Yahweh, that is somehow linked to the Torah going
out to the nations.
Yeah, that's interesting.
So is it that the light, being in the light of Yahweh is being on the Holy Eden Mountain
and you're in the light?
Or is it when you stream out, you are also now the light?
Yeah.
So the idea is that Yahweh is shining His ore on this mountain that is destined to become
lifted up and a source of Torah to all the other nations.
So the light that comes from God's Word in day one of Genesis is now connected to God's
Word that is His instruction.
He's chosen a people who if they live by his instruction, they will embody a way of
existing in the world. That's a whole new way of being human that results in peace and no more war.
You can walk in the light. Yeah. So right now we're not about the light shining.
So I get this picture of being on the Holy Eden Mountain. Yeah, that's it.
Being in God's presence. That's it. Walk with him in the cool of the day. Yeah.
You're walking in the light. You got it. him in the cool of the day, you're walking in the light.
You got it. Now, in the plot line of Isaiah, Israel as a whole people has throughout its history failed to walk in the light of Yahweh.
And so instead of being a source of life and peace among the nations, they just get embroiled in the violence and the greed and the political battles and intrigues
of their time.
And that lands them in exile in Babylon.
And so what Isaiah begins to anticipate is that if God's purpose for Israel is ever going
to happen, that calling to walk in the light of Yahweh, to be a source of peace among the nations,
is going to fall on the shoulders of one Israelite who is just called the servant in the latter parts
of Isaiah. And so there's some key poems where the images from Isaiah 2 are drawn upon. So here's
one of them in Isaiah 42. God says, Behold my servant, the one whom I uphold my chosen one in whom my soul delights. I have put my spirit on him
He will bring forth justice to the nations. Oh, yeah, the justice we there you go talked about
I suppose fascinating is in Isaiah 2 God is gonna bring justice to the nation
But now that's the servant now is given to the servant, we'll further down in verse
6. Now it's God speaking to the servant. I'm the Lord. I have called you the servant
in righteousness. I will hold you by the hand and watch over you. I will make you a covenant
of the people, a light to the nations, to open blind eyes, to bring out prisoners from the dungeon,
those who dwell in darkness from the prison.
Okay, so verse order, I get it. I'm gonna help you do justice.
The justice is releasing prisoners, healing people, and then that's being a light to the nations. So we were walking in the light,
but now the servant like is the light becomes the light. Yes. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. This servant
is going to live in a way that creates restorative, yeah, restoring people, restoring relationships,
Yeah, restoring people, restoring relationships, restoring communities to wholeness out of, yeah, what do you say, bondage. And that's called bringing justice to the nations and bringing
or, the or going out to the nations. You're like, oh, right? We're drawing on Isaiah 2.
Yeah, but he doesn't say you'll bring or to the nations. You say you are the light.
Yeah, you are the light to the nations. Big shift. That's right.
Walking in God's light to being the light. Being the light for the nation.
And that's the role of the servant. It's the role of the servant.
Okay. Which was supposed to be the role of Israel.
Ah. All the way back to the covenant God made with Israel at Mount Sinai.
So that's the covenant. I'll make you a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.
So that's the covenant. Yeah. Of the people of Israel. Yeah. And now the servant is the covenant. I'll make you a kingdom of priests and a holy nation. So that's the covenant of the people of Israel.
And now the servant is that covenant.
You got it.
The servant will embody in their individual life the covenant partnership that God desired
to have with all of Israel.
Why?
So that they could become through how they live and treat each other a light that
is an embodiment of God's instruction. And there's the or and the Torah wordplay.
Okay.
God's light to the nations is his people living by the Torah.
And it brings justice.
And it brings justice. In the later poem, and as A 49, we get a speech from the servant
who says, repeats all these images.
God has called me from the womb to be his servant.
He says later on, God told me, I will make you a light to the nations so that my salvation,
and just it's too good man, the word salvation is the word Yeshua.
Jesus' name, his Hebrew name, so that my Yeshua can reach to the ends of the earth.
And God says again, I will make you a covenant of the people.
So all this comes together in a set of poems at the end of the Isaiah scroll, all this
read that comes from chapter 16.
Rise up, shine, because your light has come.
God's addressing the people who are inhabiting this new exalted Jerusalem.
The glory of Yahweh has risen upon you.
Look, darkness covers the land.
This is like the pre-creation state of Genesis chapter 1.
Deep darkness covers the peoples, but Yahweh will rise upon
you, His glory will appear over you, and nations will come to your light. So now God is addressing
a people who have been restored by the servant. God's light will shine on them so that the
nations will come to the light. And then later in Isaiah 60, the nations will come around you bringing their grateful
offerings to help rebuild and restore Israel that was destroyed by the nations.
And Isaiah 60 verse 14, it says they will bow down and call you the city of the Lord,
Zion of the Holy One of Israel.
So this is the whole storyline Isaiah.
The light of the world, the city on hill.
Yeah, Jesus liked Isaiah.
He's really, really into Isaiah.
That's a part of what drew me to Isaiah when I first started following Jesus.
You know, when we shared the same house one summer,
you spent that summer in
the basement reading Isaiah in Hebrew. That's true. That's my memory of you.
Yeah, I think I just finished second year Hebrew class. I was really into Isaiah, but I could
just begin to see that Isaiah was very meaningful to Jesus and Jesus used the language of Isaiah to
explain who he was and what he was doing
and his followers.
This is a great example.
Okay, so let's go back to Jesus' words here,
the opening words.
You were the light of the world.
You were the city set up on a hill
that's not able to be hidden.
And then he kind of gets into this little joke,
like, listen, if you've got a really nice candle,
no one puts it under a basket.
It's meant to shine.
So everyone can see.
Then he flips it.
He says, let your light shine before humans
so they can see, and you think what he's gonna say
is see your light.
But then what he says is they can see your good deeds
or your good works.
Your justice totally he's tying the pieces together of the city on the hill and the light to the nations from Isaiah
Yeah, what are good works except to well be peacemakers and
Be the ones that are helping
arbitrate between disputes bringing peace to show God's wisdom to live healthy lives and that's the good works.
Yeah. So he's alluded to the good works in the nine sayings of the good life,
but also he's setting you up for his discussion about how his teachings fulfill what he calls
the Torah and prophets. That's where he goes next. Literally in the next paragraph. He says,
I've come to fulfill the Torah and then he's going to give six case studies on
how to love God and love your neighbor.
So really the good works, this last line about the light shining and the good works is kind
of the pivot into the next part.
So here he mentions the ore, the light, the next paragraphs that follow in the sermon are
about the Torah, the light, the next paragraphs that follow in the sermon are about the Torah
fulfilling the Torah. So the light and Torah let our link together here. So this is clearly Jesus
is drawing on this bundle of ideas. God called Israel to be a light to the nations, to live by
His instruction in a way that brings peace and justice. Israel has failed at that, that's the story of the Hebrew Bible.
But God promised through the prophet Isaiah
that he'd raise up a servant
who would fulfill that calling
and invite a renewed Israel into their heritage.
And that's what Jesus is claiming right here
with these very dense little parables
of the light and the city on the hill.
All right, this is super helpful.
And what you've promised is that this will help us understand
the metaphor of salt.
Yeah, that's right.
So let's start talking about salt.
This metaphor of light is so rich.
I think of first John, God is light and in him there's no darkness at all.
He has to walk in the light.
Exactly.
So then there's Psalm 119, your word is a lamp for my feet, a light to my path.
Yeah, and the purpose of this light and this path is for justice and peace in the world.
And this all comes together beautifully in Isaiah 61,
when he speaks the words of God to Israel.
I, Yahweh, have called you in righteousness.
I will take hold of your hand.
I will keep you and I will make you to be a covenant
for the people and the light for the nations.
Okay, this seems really central to the idea of light
being God's covenant.
And as Tim promised, understanding the use of light is going to give us clarity on what Jesus means when he calls his followers salt.
All right, let's listen in.
Okay, so let's start with preservative.
Okay.
Probably the most universal use of salt because it's connected to food, but also connected to keeping you alive,
which is not an association most modern people have.
But seriously, salt kept people alive.
Because it preserved food for long periods of time.
So the idea of salt that maybe we don't have
right at the front of our minds is that salt
is what makes things last a really long time.
So not just a preservative, but like make things endure.
That's a primary meaning of salt to most people for most of history.
So salt is a symbol of God's long enduring covenant with Israel.
And so every sacrifice gets salted.
The scholar Jonathan Pennington really helped me hear with some
insights from his book on the Sermon on the Mount. Hey, this is Jonathan Pennington. And when we
think about the metaphors of salt and light, it can be confusing sometimes because salt has a lot
of potential meanings. In the ancient world, salt was used as a metaphor for a lot of different
things. And sometimes light was as well. But I think what's really crucial to understand is that Matthew has put these two metaphors
in parallel with each other very clearly. So to understand both salt and light is helpful to think,
are there places in the metaphorical meaning of salt and light that overlap with each other?
And I think there is a very clear place. The place where both salt and light can be used
in the same sense is with the idea of a covenant. You use salt to make a covenant, to emphasize the
permanence of a covenant in the ancient world. And light is maybe even more clearly something that's
used all throughout the Old Testament, especially in the book of Isaiah, to refer to God's covenantal light and revelation going
forth in the world.
The covenant is a long-lasting covenant.
And so, salt preserves things.
So, to call it, the salt of the covenant is to emphasize its long-lastingness.
Yep. The salt of the covenant is to emphasize its long-lasting-ness.
Yep.
God says that all of Israel's gifts, this is Numbers chapter 18, verse 19, are to be
salted.
And God says, it is an everlasting covenant of salt with you and your descendants.
So they're that long-lasting nature of the covenant and of salt are bundled together
in one phrase.
That's repeated in the Chronicles scroll where God's covenant promised to David that
he would have a descendant that ruled forever is called a covenant of salt.
There's a couple of biblical references that show that salt was connected with a long-lasting relationship.
Okay. So the covenant is at the center of all of this. And it seems like then that all these
other meanings of salts still have a lot of meaning and implication, but now their meaning comes
from the fact that the covenant is at the center. Yeah. Remember, salt was a means of washing things clean or purifying them?
Yeah. And we haven't got into it, but this idea of purification in the Hebrew Bible was
really important.
That's right. Yeah. The idea that moral compromise of choosing selfishness, greed, these are things that make us metaphorically impure,
unclean, dirty, whereas being clean, washed, pure, these are states of being that are associated
with life and healthy relationships and connection with God. All right, so this is connected to the doing good works.
Is like being in a state of being
where relationships are whole,
where there's justice around you.
It's a pure state of sorts.
Yeah, so maybe the last thing is that
it's just an element of meals.
And meals are part of creating social bonds and relationships.
And staying alive. And staying alive, yeah.
And what is the covenant except a relationship between God and humans.
So, you know, you're passing salt with God.
That's right. Yeah. So, it actually really is the perfect metaphor.
Yeah. All the dimensions actually really come together,
but at the center of it is the covenant.
And even saying the covenant's essential. Like how are we to make our way through the world,
learn to rule the world with God without some sort of relational commitment?
Yes. So for Jesus to call his followers the salt of the land.
You all who are receiving the kingdom
that I'm bringing from heaven to earth
to fulfill God's covenant promises to Israel,
you all are the salt.
Y'all are the salt.
And then look at his little riddle.
If the salt becomes unsalty,
which is kind of impossible.
Well, a salt is not salt, it's not salt. It's not salt.
So surely he had a twinkle in his eye here.
His point is if salt loses the thing that it is,
it's almost like it's impossible.
If salt loses its saltiness, it's not salt.
It's like dirt to get stepped on by humans.
It's like light losing its light.
And I've wondered for a long time if there isn't a little kind of symbolic retelling
of Israel's story here that they lost their saltiness, so to speak.
And Babylon stepped on them.
Yeah, because getting trampled on by the nations is a metaphor in the prophets for their defeat
at the hands of Assyria and Babylon and the next isle.
So yeah, this insight of salt become an unsalty is kind of like an impossibility or contradiction.
This is another great insight I learned from Jonathan Pennington about the purpose of Jesus'
kind of rhetoric.
Salt can't, you know, stop being salty or if it did somehow it would be completely useless.
If you built a town on a hill, everybody's gonna see it.
And if you light a lamp, you don't put it under a basket so no one can see it.
And I think the point is he's using this sort of very powerful, almost comedic rhetoric at moments
to say, look, these are clearly not what you can do.
And that adds to the urgency in the sense
that the disciples really need to listen
to what Jesus is saying and continue faithfully
to be his ambassadors, his heralds,
his salt and light in the world.
Yeah, I get the joke.
I get the joke now.
I'm trying to think of another riff on the joke.
Something really simple where it's like the thing, as soon as the thing's not the thing,
it's not the thing.
It's not the thing.
That's the joke.
That's the joke.
Yeah.
And he just began by saying, you are the thing.
So be the thing.
So yeah, the rhetoric is almost, be who you are.
You are this. So be that. Stop being yeah, they're ready because almost be who you are you are this
So be that yeah, stop being something that you're not okay. Okay. Now. Well, so this kind of gets to it then
What does that mean to be it? Yeah, right? I get walking in the light of Yahweh. I mean I maybe I get it
I mean, but like, you know as an idea. Yeah, I get it
I mean, but like, you know, as an idea, I get it. But to then be the light.
Be the light, yeah.
I get like God made a covenant with me.
Be the covenant.
Like what are we talking about?
Yeah, so this is where it's so helpful
to remember that Matthew chapter five,
the intro to the Sermon on the Mount
comes after Matthew chapter four.
So Jesus comes onto the scene after John the Baptist. Both of their messages was, God's going to do something
now to bring His heavenly rule here on earth that will bring the story, the covenant partnership
story of God and Israel and the nations all to its climax. Things are moving forward here, folks.
Yeah.
It's happening.
It's happening.
And so the Jesus would call together a band of people that he's healed, that he's restored,
that they are beginning to live by his teachings, and that he says, you all, the good life that's
promised by the Proverbs and the Psalms. It's happening, folks.
You're the crew. You're my crew. You all are the salt. You are the covenant through which God's long-lasting promises to His people are going to move forward.
You are the light of the world. You are the city on the hill. So in other words, you are the Israelite crew
that if you learn to live by my Torah, my teachings
that fulfill God's Torah revealed through Moses,
you will become this beacon of light, like a lighthouse.
You know, it's a dark world out there,
but this shining a light
through how you live together as a group of people.
And think, what he's going to talk through in the rest of the sermon is like how you relate
to people when you're angry at them, right?
Reconciliation, conflict resolution, how men relate to women, right?
With integrity and honor, how you should relate to people you really don't like or people
that have hurt you. Peacemaking, non-retaliation, well, at least nonviolent resistance to evil.
I think this is the stuff of the good works that Jesus begins here with this introduction
to the sermon.
Okay, but just ask one more time.
I get do good works.
I get walk in the light.
Yeah, yeah.
And the good works are the light that shines up.
And the good works are the light.
I get that the kingdom of God is coming
and I get to be part of it.
And when I say I get it, I mean-
Conceptually.
Conceptually.
What does it mean to be the light?
What does it mean that you are the salt of the covenant?
And is this the actual distinction that Jesus is making?
Am I getting hung up on something that's not important?
Interesting.
Well, the salt of the covenant,
the salt is an image of the long lasting covenant promises of God. What are the covenant promises? And I'm not the covenant, the salt is an image of the long lasting covenant promises of God.
What are the covenant promises?
And I'm not the covenant.
No, but people embody the covenant.
So you embody the covenant.
Yeah, God wants there to be a people
who live by his life giving wisdom and instruction.
If there's not people living by the covenant,
there's no covenant.
There's no covenant, that's right. That's right.
I see. That's right.
It's the joke again.
It's the joke.
If you're not the covenant, there's no covenant.
So be the covenant.
So be the covenant.
Yep.
And there's those key passages about the servant in the Isaiah scroll,
where God says,
I will make you the servant a covenant of the people.
The servant becomes the covenant.
And if the servant is Jesus, then now Jesus is sharing his covenant being with his followers,
that you all are the covenant.
How you live and treat people according to the word and wisdom and instruction of God,
you will be the covenant, you'll become the covenant of God's desire to be partners with all humans in being responsible for this world.
Now, God's light can exist regardless if I walk in it or not.
Yeah, yeah.
But I can embody the light.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. If you walk in it, you live by it. Yeah, I guess.
You become it.
You be in some way.
Yeah, like Moses. Ha ha it. You become it. In some way.
Yeah, like Moses.
You know.
Space shining.
Yeah.
And like Jesus.
Shine like stars.
Yeah, which is surely an image about when you spend enough time and you always light,
his instruction, his life giving wisdom and instruction begins to reflect off of you.
Because others see how.
Like an image.
Like an image, yeah.
Hotent metaphors.
Over time I've become really grateful
that Jesus didn't just say exactly what he meant
in some sort of abstract language,
but that he used these rich metaphors
that can keep a couple of guys talking for a long time.
Pondering what they mean. And yeah, you are the salt of the land.
You are the light of the world.
You all are the city set up on the hill.
What happens when a hill loses its hilliness. It also gets trampled on by the nations, or at least that did in Israel's case.
It just stops being what God made it to be, which is too bad for the city, you know?
Good thing God is into second chances, which is what Jesus represents.
Another chance to Israel for the covenant to be fulfilled.
That's a key, key part of what it means to be the salt and the light in the city. That's it for today's episode.
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