BibleProject - The Wilderness Remixed in Israel’s Prophets

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

The Wilderness E7 — By the time we get to the Prophets in the Hebrew Bible, the meaning of the wilderness is well established. It’s a desolate, dangerous place where humans can’t survive. And it...’s a place where God meets with his people to reform their character and deepen their trust in him. But Israel’s prophets remix the meaning and imagery of the wilderness in surprising ways that prepare us for the story of Jesus. In this episode, Jon and Tim explore the wilderness in Hosea, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel, discovering unique portraits of a prison, romance, tragedy, and promise of a new heart.CHAPTERSRecap of the Theme and Setup for the Prophets (0:00-16:07)Hosea’s Wilderness as Containment and Reformation (16:07-27:40)Jeremiah’s Romance and Ezekiel’s Tragedy in the Wilderness (27:40-49:58)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPTView this episode’s official transcript.REFERENCED RESOURCESYou can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC“Purple Clouds ft. Marc Vanparla” by Lofi Sunday“Selah ft. Bobcat” by Lofi SundayBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITSProduction of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer, who also edited today’s episode and provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie. Powered and distributed by Simplecast. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The story of the Bible begins with a vast wilderness, where God creates humanity out of the dust of that wilderness, and then plants them in a good garden. And all of this life in the wilderness is sustained now by the creative power of God. So, to exist in the garden is to exist within God's life. The condition of being in the garden of God's infinite. life is about trusting in God's wisdom, partnering with God and letting God guide our choices about good and bad. And if we don't want to play that game, then God escorts us outside
Starting point is 00:00:41 the garden into the wilderness that we choose for ourselves. Tragically, humanity ends up back in the wilderness. But God doesn't give up on them. He follows them into the wilderness to provide for them. And he uses the wilderness as a training ground to teach them how to trust him. The wilderness is a place that God guides his people through as a period of testing and of purification, a character formation. Today we're going to look at the different ways Israel's prophets discuss the theme of the wilderness. We'll look at Josea, who describes the wilderness as a place of restoration. Josea's describing like an intervention with somebody who's so self-destructive that you have to put them in an environment where they can't do very much
Starting point is 00:01:29 anymore. God's going to cut off access to self-made Edens. For Hosea, the wilderness is a severe mercy, an opportunity to connect to God in a deep and intimate way. The wilderness first was like a prison to prevent you from destroying yourself, but now that wilderness becomes a place to fall in love again. This positive portrayal of the wilderness continues in Jeremiah, who describes Israel's time in the wilderness like an engagement period between two people. people in love. On the other hand, the prophet Ezekiel portrays Israel's entire history as a tragic wilderness rebellion. Israel has proven that no amount of wilderness will prepare them for garden life.
Starting point is 00:02:12 And so, the only hope is for God to do something fundamentally new. He's going to put his own life breath, his spirit in the hearts of his people, take out their stony heart, give them a new heart. Then a human could learn what they need to learn in the wilderness and actually live in the garden land for good. Today, Tim Mackie and I will explore the many different ways that Israel's prophets talk about the wilderness. A prison, a romance, a tragedy, a promise. Thanks for joining us.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Here we go. Hey, Tim. Hello, John Collins. Hello. Good morning, real time for us. Good morning. And real time, we've taken a bit of a break from the wilderness theme. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:02 And so I would love a bit of a reminder of where we've been. Yes. Get my head back in the game. Yes. We are many conversations into exploring the theme of the wilderness in the biblical story. Wilderness is a repeated location for really important events throughout the story of the Bible. It's introduced in the first sentences. of Genesis. The pre-creation state, the blank canvas, so to speak, that God addresses with
Starting point is 00:03:34 his word, is described as an unordered, uninhabitable wilderness. It's a realm of disorder. It is not conducive to human life. Yeah, and then you showed us how God creates a garden in the wilderness, and he forms humans out of the dust of the wilderness, and then places the humans in this good, abundant garden. Yeah. And so humans are destined and created for, designed for flourishing in life. God sustains their life, just like God sustains the garden. But the condition of being in the garden of God's infinite life is about trusting in God's wisdom, partnering with God and letting God guide our choices about good and bad. And if we don't want to play that game,
Starting point is 00:04:25 then God escorts us outside the garden into the wilderness that, so to speak, we choose for ourselves. And there it's not just that it's disordered and empty, but that it is actually full of creatures that are dangerous. And it's an environment that's now dangerous, primarily because of lack of water, hostile to human life. So the nothingness from which God called creation is described. wilderness image, but then the literal wilderness of the opposite of the Garden of Eden becomes metaphorically a place of like cast back into the nothingness. And God sends Adam and Eve out of the garden to the wilderness as a severe mercy. But with the hope of return.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Yeah, if human's desire to stake out some realm of independent, existence, apart from God, you end up in this limbo existence of semi-nonexistence. And the wilderness is an image of that. So you can put yourself there, you can put other people there. But then we get to the story of Israel being rescued from slavery. Yes. And then we get to that really interesting passage where you hear that there was a direct route. It could have gone out of Egypt.
Starting point is 00:05:51 That's right, the coastal route. The coastal route, and they would have gotten to the promised land within days. Yeah, a few weeks. A couple weeks. A couple weeks. And God knew that if they went that way and they encountered trouble, they're going to encounter people who say, we don't want you here, leave. And they're going to go turn around, go back to Egypt. And God wants them out of Egypt.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Yeah. He wants them to be in the garden land. And so, I can't send you the director out. You're not ready. You're not ready. You're not ready. Yep. Humans aren't ready to fully inherit the abundant garden land.
Starting point is 00:06:34 So Israel's 40-year sojourn through the wilderness adds a new twist or adds a new layer of meaning that the wilderness is a place that God guides his people through as a period of testing and of purification and a character formation. Yeah. So I think the twist there is like, this time you don't have to go through the wilderness. I'm ready just to bring you back into the land. Sure. No, you could technically go right back into the land. Technically. Yeah. I'm inviting you back into the land. You're not ready. But you are not ready. Yeah. Now, if we think about these two kind of wilderness exiles together, one is Adam and Eve being sent out. And then one is Israel being sent out. Is there some interplay in? When God tells Adam and Eve, you can't be in the garden. It's because they're not ready. They don't know how to trust God's wisdom. That's right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And so if they stay there, they're just going to keep defining good and bad on their own terms, and they're going to make a mess of it. Yeah, that's good. So there is kind of a sense of not being ready. That's right. Already, that's a great point. So in that sense, humanity's life outside the garden from Genesis 3 onward, The wilderness becomes metaphorically a way to think about all of human history and all of biblical history as taking place in the wilderness.
Starting point is 00:08:01 So the wilderness is a consequence, but a wilderness is also an opportunity, right? Yeah. I guess it's an opportunity simply because God isn't going to let the wilderness be the last word. Well, it's also why through the wilderness? Mm-hmm. Right? Yes. If you're not ready to really inherit and become a full partner with God in the promised land, and this is why Moses interpreted that season of 40 years as a long season of God testing and inviting Israel into a deep, deep relationship of trust, as a son does with a father. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:42 It was the metaphor he chose. It's cool. Now, it seems like then there's also kind of two modes that you're in the wilderness. And there's a mode of, I'm in the wilderness, I'm like cane, I'm going to just murder my brother, I'm going to go further in the wilderness, I'm going to build a sea, I'm just kind of on my own doing my thing in the wilderness. Yeah. You're kind of you're, you've so forgotten what a garden existence would be like. Yeah. You've become one with the wilderness.
Starting point is 00:09:06 You've become one with the wilderness. Yeah. And you're being ground back in the dust. But then there's the way that God wanted Israel to be in the wilderness, which is, trust me, I will transform the wilderness into garden when you need it. Yes, yeah, that's right. The wilderness becomes a temporary season of suffering and of lack. Yeah. Interspersed with these little Eden moments where God will provide in oases with 70 palm trees and 12 springs. Right. Or manna, the daily Eden bread.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Yeah. So God wants to teach us in the wilderness. And part of that is learning to listen to his voice. Yeah. And so if he says, go and collect the manna but only. a day's worth. You listen to that. If he says to Moses, strike the rock, he listens to it. Yeah. If he says to Moses, speak to the rock. Then you listen to that. Then you listen to that. And if you're hungry and thirsty and you feel like at the end of yourself, you still learn to trust that God will show up. That's right. Or David, who was in his long sojourn in the wilderness that we
Starting point is 00:10:11 looked at. And the one moment where he actually lost his cool and was about to use the sword to take life because somebody dishonored him God raises up this wise woman Abigail who brings a feast a garden feast
Starting point is 00:10:27 in the wilderness and teaches him wisdom to not take life if he doesn't need to. So David's garden is to be the king of Israel and he's not ready for it yet he needs the wisdom of Abigail
Starting point is 00:10:41 and the garden feast that she brings to make him ready so it's not just the wilderness generation of Israel. It's actually many biblical characters find themselves in the wilderness. But it's God's leading them there to teach them things that they would not otherwise learn to prepare them to inherit a new Eden. Yeah. Which begs some questions like, well, how does God decide how long I need to be in the wilderness?
Starting point is 00:11:13 Things we would like to know. And then you can frame all of life as the wilderness, right? Because we are living outside of Eden. But then there's these moments in life, these seasons of life, that are much more intensely wilderness moments. Yeah, yeah. And are we supposed to be thinking about wilderness in both of those ways? Hmm. Well, I guess it's just wilderness is the binary opposite of the ideal state of creation, which is union with God and God's abundantly. life in a heaven-un-earth spot. And so garden is like the iconic image of that.
Starting point is 00:11:54 And wilderness is just the opposite of all of that. But if wilderness is what humans keep bringing upon themselves, God will meet his people in the wilderness as a long training ground to prepare them for the inheritance of the garden that he has. How long will it take? It's a great question. But maybe that's also a way of thinking about all of human history. But at the same time, life outside of Eden for humanity is still marked by these haunted echoes of Eden, right, that we have.
Starting point is 00:12:31 And whether it's moments of transcendence in loving relationship or community, a season of your life where you feel like you truly belong and are loved, or more fleeting moments of like a good meal, you know, or an amazing concept. There's a way to be in the wilderness where you actually are experiencing the garden. Yes. And that's what God invites Israel into. Yep, that's right. And that's what David largely finds in his wilderness community out there. Yeah. And we haven't gotten to Jesus, but he has his wilderness season.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yeah, exactly. We will get there. We're going to do one stop left in this conversation is to just survey. the diverse palette of wilderness imagery in Israel's prophets, the prophetic literature of the Hebrew Bible. So Israel's prophets are the figures that come along at different moments in Israel's history once they're in the land. So post wilderness into the promised land,
Starting point is 00:13:36 and God is guiding his people in the land, but they consistently just do stupid replays of Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel and Pharaoh and all that. And so the history of Israel in the land under their kings, which is told in the books of Samuel and then kings, is just a long story of replays of failure. It's just like one slow motion grabbing for the tree of no good and bad in the garden. But replayed. But replayed. Over and over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Yeah. It's like some weird avant-garde art film that just keeps replaying the same thing over and over here. Grabbing, grab it. But with occasional, like, good figures in there, Solomon has some good moments, Hezekiah, Josiah. So Israel's prophets are these figures, these Moses-like figures, that had a live wire to the heavens. And their special connection with God gave them the ability to see the big picture of Israel's history. and to talk about that moment in Israel's history within the whole context of God's purposes for all of creation.
Starting point is 00:14:44 And so the poetry of the prophets is often doing that. They're talking about a moment in their own life, what they see on the scene in Jerusalem or in the hills of Israel and what the kings are doing and the people and the temple. But they talk about it in these cosmic images. And wilderness is one of these main images. So I just want to sample some important poetic moments. And I think we'll see it's just filling out this picture of the wilderness as a place that's hostile.
Starting point is 00:15:17 But then when it becomes a severe mercy, the wilderness can become a place of testing and purification. And in that sense, it becomes a kind of refuge where you meet God in a way that you wouldn't otherwise have if you just perpetually live. lived in the garden. In the book of Hosea, even though he doesn't come first in any of the orderings of the prophetic books, it's the first of the scroll of the 12. And he's one of the earliest writing prophets. He's working somewhere in the 8th century, maybe late 9th centuries, 800s, 700s. So he lived in northern Israel, and he's most well known.
Starting point is 00:16:32 for the fact that God asked him as a symbolic, prophetic, public act to marry a woman who was known to be very promiscuous, sexually promiscuous, and who would continue to be even while they're married. And so he did this as a symbol in his community. I mean, just what a really difficult news to receive from God. This is going to be your life. So the story is that he does this. He marries a woman named Gomer. They have children together.
Starting point is 00:17:07 And then, you know, she's unfaithful to him. And then God tells him to go find her and pledge yourself to her again. And stay with her. And this becomes this image of God's commitment to Israel in the midst of centuries of idolatry and bad leaders and so on. And so in Josea chapter 2, you get this poetic retelling of Israel's story that begins in verse 1. We're going to pick up in verse 5, where God describes Josea's wife, who has become a mother. They had some children together.
Starting point is 00:17:44 And so he says, the mother was unfaithful. And here the mother is Gomer, Josea's wife, but as a symbol of the people of Israel in the poetry. So their mother was unfaithful, the one who conceived children, acted shamefully saying I will go after my lovers. And these are the gods. So these are other gods, other nations, and their gods. The Israel's
Starting point is 00:18:10 kings and priests actually like... Worship and Yep. That's right. Give allegiance to. Yeah. And so in the story, this wife, who's a symbol of Israel, saying I'm going to go after these lovers, other gods,
Starting point is 00:18:25 these are the ones who have given me my bread and my water. my wool and my oil and my drink I go and sacrifice these gods or worship these gods and they are giving me what? Yeah, Bail Baal is looking out for me. He provides the rain.
Starting point is 00:18:44 He provides the fertile crops. And God says, okay, if that's what you're going to do, then I am going to build a hedge in her path. So the idea of you're walking along a road and a hedge meaning a bush fence. So God's going to build a big barrier.
Starting point is 00:19:05 And it's going to have thorns. There's your clue. It's a wilderness image. Yeah, that comes from the garden, or from Genesis 3, thorns and thistles. So God's going to surround her with a wilderness. Or surround her, like block her in the wilderness. I'm going to build a stone wall against her
Starting point is 00:19:24 so she cannot find her paths. and she'll chase after her lovers, but she won't overtake any of them. She'll seek her lovers and not find them. So God's going to, this is the severe mercy. He's going to cut off her access to her self-made Edens by pursuing other gods and, like, trap her. Trap Israel. It's an interesting image. And then she'll say, well, okay, maybe I'll go now.
Starting point is 00:19:57 and return back to my first husband, that is Yahweh. Because, well, it was better for me then than it is now. She didn't know that I was the one who gave her all of that grain and new wine and oil and silver and gold, which they made into idol statues of Ba'all. So you can get the feel here. So what is this trap? What is this, the wall enclosed by thorn bushes?
Starting point is 00:20:26 What's that about? But we're getting this image that God's going to put her in this containment zone that doesn't sound very pleasant and maybe that will compel Israel to trust Yahweh again. That's the idea. Because in this zone,
Starting point is 00:20:45 it's going to be hard for her to find what she's looking for on her own terms. Oh, that's good. Yes, okay. Right? Yeah, that's right. That's the image. Yeah. Like, it's going to be hard for her to go and seek after these lovers,
Starting point is 00:20:59 which is the image of seeking out after their gods. To give you rain and crops and fruit. I'm going to make it not work anymore. That's right. I'm going to put my people in a zone where the solutions that they've created to provide for themselves. Stop working. But that actually are destroying themselves and other people.
Starting point is 00:21:20 So it's like a wilderness. It's called a wall of thorns. that enclose Israel. That's interesting because that's a kind of wilderness you kind of I think initially imagine wilderness being because of the severe mercy.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Yeah, yes, right. It's not the wilderness you think of with Israel's wanderings. Right? He rescued them and it feels like more like, now it's got to prepare you. Oh, yeah. A preparation wilderness versus a like,
Starting point is 00:21:50 I need you to get out of your own way. Yeah. and like just sit in your mess. Sitting in your own mess, ideally will help you learn something. It does. I guess it does make her realize, oh, I bet it would be better if I'd go and listen to God's voice.
Starting point is 00:22:09 I should go back to Yahweh, because it was better for me, at least when I did that, even if I felt like, whatever, he's a bad deity who is way too demanding. Asked me to love my neighbor as myself. but there's a difference between someone who's like making a mess and it's like I got to contain you God's like I got to continue get you out of your own way and you're going on a timeout
Starting point is 00:22:35 versus someone who's like I'm ready to bring you in the promised land and they're like yeah let's go and then God says actually you know what okay yeah I don't think you're quite ready that's a good point Jose is describing like an intervention yeah with somebody who's so self-destructive that you have to put them in an environment where they can't do very much anymore. So I guess this is kind of like there's a spectrum of wilderness. Like there's the intervention side. And then there's just the like, I'm preparing you side. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:05 But it's all wilderness. Yeah. And interventions, ideally, are preparing you. And actually, here, let's just a few verses further. In verse, still describing this containment zone down in verse 13, God says, I will punish her for the days of worshiping the Ba'all. The containment is a punishment. Yeah, it's a consequence, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:27 These gods to whom she burned incense and dressed herself up with ornamental rings and jewelry to go after her lovers. Look, I am going to a lure. It's the word seduce, entice. So now God's going to be like this. Now this is where he's like Josea going back to find the woman. who's been unfaithful to him and now that's Yahweh
Starting point is 00:23:52 I'm going to go back and entice her and bring her into the wilderness and there I will speak to her heart literally in Hebrew speak tenderly to her okay yeah this feels different than
Starting point is 00:24:07 like I just need to contain you yeah so the wilderness first was like a prison yeah like a thorn wallhead to prevent you from destroying yourself but now that wilderness becomes a place to fall in love again. Like, let's take you out there so that I can woo you back to a new relationship. I don't think that's where you should take dates.
Starting point is 00:24:36 No, I agree. But that's the image here. Okay. So the wilderness is first a containment zone, a kind of punishment. Yeah. But then, ideally, it's a preparing where it's like, listen, you can, And trust me. I love you. I want to provide for you in a way that you won't feel like you have to provide for yourself in ways that hurt you in other people. So I will bring her into the wilderness,
Starting point is 00:25:03 verse 14, speak to her heart. And verse 15, and from there, I will give her vineyards. And the valley of Achor will become a door of hope. So the valley of Achor is the place. where awkward means trouble. This is where... David? Aiken. No, all the way back, that story in Joshua
Starting point is 00:25:25 about a guy named Ahan or Aiken who stole a bunch of plunder from Jericho. It was a terrible moment, and then they lost a bunch of battles, and Aiken and his whole family died. So that valley, which was about folly and selfishness and death,
Starting point is 00:25:46 that valley will become a doorway into a future hope. So we're recalling that story. Somehow that memory of failure, though, was followed by a season of great gift and fruitfulness and abundance in Israel's story. And so similarly, this containment zone of Israel will become like a painful place
Starting point is 00:26:11 that will give way to a door of hope. So all of this is talking about, what Josea sees coming for the northern kingdom of Israel, which is that the nation of us area is going to come take him out. He's forecasting that. Yeah, that's what the wilderness means. Okay. Is getting captured by your enemies and dispersed in exile.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Okay. Isn't that interesting? So the wilderness has a rich set of meanings in Josea's. But I like this, intervention. Containment. Containment, but then also a form of preparation. Yeah, and an intimate form of preparation. And that's the new image for me right now is that while in the wilderness, you can have this intimate connection with God and actually find what you're looking for.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Get what you need, even though you're still in the wilderness. Yeah, that's good. So let's go a couple centuries forward and down to Jerusalem, where Jeremiah lived, right on the cusp of, another imperial threat, breathing down Israel's neck in the form of Babylon. And in Jeremiah 2, we'll just start reading. But we're in Jerusalem. Babylon's a big threat.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Northern kingdom that Josea lived in, they got trashed by Assyria, just like Josea said 150 years ago. Now here we are in Jerusalem, another threat, Babylon, and Jeremiah is like a new Josea, but to his generation. and Jeremiah too begins The word of Yahweh came to me Jeremiah says Go and proclaim in the ears of Jerusalem
Starting point is 00:28:26 Jerusalem is going to be depicted here as a young woman This is what Yahweh says I remember about you The loyal love of your youth The love of your engagement period Your betrothal time Remember when we were engaged
Starting point is 00:28:47 I was your God and you were my people My temple was in your midst You're talking about like David's reign Well, okay I remember when you were going after me In the wilderness Huh In the land that was not sown
Starting point is 00:29:01 Okay So Jeremiah is depicting The wilderness season of Israel's life Before living in the promised land As this ideal Engagement period Okay We were getting to know each other
Starting point is 00:29:16 I was giving you the tabernacle and the laws and showing up for you with manna. Yeah, and you loved me. You're like, really? Is that how it went? Okay. So what's fascinating is the prophets will use the wilderness memory. Yeah, it's another intimate moment.
Starting point is 00:29:36 To do lots of different things. In the Torah, it's either preparation that God chooses or it's just failure and containment. It's when we fell in love. It's when we fell in love, which you're hard-pressed to find this idea of the wilderness when you read through Exodus, Leviticus, numbers. But notice what he does with the image. He says, Israel was holy to Yahweh. You were my special set-apart people.
Starting point is 00:30:02 You were like the first fruit of Yahweh's produce. So, Yahweh's like a farmer. And Israelite farmers dedicated their first fruits as holy to give to Yahweh as a gift. And that's what Israel was to Yahweh. And so anybody who came along and tried to eat and consume his first fruits, God held them guilty and disaster came on them. So like Amalek, the Amalekites attacked them in the wilderness, and God protected them, and the Amalekites were defeated.
Starting point is 00:30:34 So those were the good old days. But what injustice did your ancestors find in me, that they went so far from me, and they went after. There's that word going after. Israel was going after Yahweh. You were going after me in the wilderness. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:52 It's like pursuit that they started to go after, and then Jeremiah uses one of his favorite words for idol gods, which is a word Hevel from Ecclesiastes. Vapor. Yeah. Okay. That's his word to describe. A mist.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Yeah. They went after vapor, and they became vapor. you become what you worship and they no longer said where is Yahweh the one who brought us up out of Egypt you know the one who led us through the wilderness in the land of desert plains and gorges in the dry land where no one lives
Starting point is 00:31:32 where no humans can even live so they forgot the god that they fell in love with in the wilderness who led them through the wilderness they just forgot all together about that. And so they went after other gods. I brought you into the land of the orchard, the garden, to eat its fruit and all of its good things.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I mean, come on. That's like right from the garden being story. And you entered and you defiled my land. And you made my inheritance a detestable thing. Even the priests who were like gardeners, metaphorical gardeners of God's presence not even they said where is Yahweh
Starting point is 00:32:18 those who handle the Torah they don't even know me the shepherds that is the kings have rebelled against me the prophets they prophesy in the name of Ba'all another god and they go after things that do not profit
Starting point is 00:32:36 so it seems like there's this ambiguity about what part of Israel's history he's talking about, right? And is that what you're saying with layers? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Where when he says, like, we fell in love in the wilderness, what's he referring to? And so it seems like, well, it must be the Sinai.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Yeah. Wilderness generation, a meeting in Sinai, that covenant moment. That makes sense. But, like, in what way did Israel really, like, follow after Yahweh? Yeah. Like, in an ideal way. Yeah, it's hard. So it doesn't fully compute.
Starting point is 00:33:12 It doesn't fully compute. Moses, despite his moments of failure, did. You had Caleb and Joshua. They were among the tribal leaders who didn't rebel. And they said, no, we can go into the garden land and God will protect us. So the prophets do this. They engage in revisionist history for the sake of their sermons in the moment. That's what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Okay. So he's painting the most generous possible portrait of the wilderness. I think in order to heighten the tragedy of what happened when they entered into the garden promised land. They enter in and they start going after other gods. And that's chasing after vapor, becoming vapor. Yeah. Defiling the land. And no one was looking for Yahweh.
Starting point is 00:34:03 So they had fallen in love. Yeah, they felt. Yes. Pursuing Yahweh. It's a very typical story. Yeah, and now it's like, Yahwehu. Yeah, we, you know, we bought the home, built a picket fence, right? Yeah, we can do this on our own now.
Starting point is 00:34:20 We're raising kids, and now it's like you got tired of me. And you fell out a lot. And Baal's looking pretty interesting. Exactly right, yeah. Okay. So he adjusts the wilderness story to be, it really was the founding people. period of their relationship with God. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:41 But he paints it in very positive terms to heighten the negative contrast of what they did once they went into the garden land. So this revisionist approach that the prophets have for the sake of making a sermon point. I think pastors should feel encouraged by the prophets to engage in a little... Really? Sounds dangerous. That sounds like a dangerous tip. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:06 This bothered me for a while. when I really started studying the prophets. And there would be moments where they retell a story from Israel's past and they have like a twist on it. You're like, wait a minute, that's not quite how it reads in the Torah or the narratives. And, yeah, I don't know what to say other than just pointing it out. So the prophet who engages in the most intense forms of revisionist history,
Starting point is 00:35:31 however, is Jeremiah's contemporary Ezekiel, who went through the very traumatic. experience of being taken captive in Babylon's first wave of attack, not long after Jeremiah wrote that poem. And then with thousands of other people was hauled off into exile and find themselves in a refugee camp at the beginning of his book. And what he's trying to do is convince his generation of Israel that is blaming Yahweh or blaming their ancestors for. everything happened and his job is to convince them that no this is our generation's fault too like we're partly to blame or entirely to blame for why we're sitting in exile here
Starting point is 00:36:21 isekiel 20 is one of the strongest examples of prophetic revisionist history we'll just read it in the seventh year of the fifth month ezekiel says some of the elders of israel came to inquire of Yahweh. He's known as a prophet. He's had very powerful experiences of God's presence and word. So the elders of Israel come and they sit in front of him. Okay. This is in Babylon. This is in Babylon. So they're sitting in a tent house, you know, in a refugee camp. And the word of Yahweh came to me saying, son of a human, speak to the elders of Israel and say to them, this is what Yahweh says. Are you here to inquire of me? As I I live, declares Yahweh, I will not be inquired of by you. You think we're on good terms?
Starting point is 00:37:12 You can just go to the prophet and say, what does Yahweh have to say to us? No, judge them, son of a human. That's what God calls Ezekiel, son of Adam. Let them know the abominations of their fathers. Here's what you should say. And the rest of his Ezekiel 20 is a retelling of Israel's history. And you'll recognize it, but then you'll also be like, what is going on so I'll kind of summarize and we'll hop in here it goes in four steps
Starting point is 00:37:40 he first retells the story of the Exodus generation so he says on the day that I chose Israel I lifted my hand on oath to the seed of the house of Jacob and made myself known to them in the land of Egypt
Starting point is 00:37:55 saying I am Yahweh your Elohim I lifted my hand on oath that I would bring them out of the land of Egypt so this is a retelling of like the burning bush and commissioning Moses to lead his people out. And I said that I'm going to lead you into a land of milk and honey
Starting point is 00:38:13 and I'm going to take you into the good lands. However, verse 7, I told you there in Egypt, cast away the detestable things of your eyes that is your idols. Don't make yourselves impure with the idols of Egypt. Yeah, that's not a detail in the story. No, it's not. So it's as if we're remembering a moment where Moses had like a sit-down with the elders of Israel saying,
Starting point is 00:38:40 okay, you've been worshipping the gods of Egypt for generations now because you don't know anything different. Stop that. Verse 8, but they rebelled against me. They weren't willing to listen to me. And so they didn't cast away the detestable things and they didn't forsake their idols of Egypt. So I said to them, Then and there, I will pour out my hot anger on them, finish my anger, and destroy them in the land of Egypt. Well, it tells itself, when did you read about that in the Exodus?
Starting point is 00:39:17 Is it possible that that story just didn't make it in the Torah? Okay, yep, that's one possibility. It was documented in their history books of whatever, their scrolls of their... Yes, one possibility. That's right, is the prophetic shapers of the Torah over time? time didn't include memories of Israel worshipping the gods
Starting point is 00:39:39 of Egypt while they were enslaved it's possible it could also be that Ezekiel is inferring well if it's the same people who made the golden calf later they didn't just wake up one day and think it was a good idea
Starting point is 00:39:55 this could be something God's informing them of now or he's inferring it yeah that he's inferring that the golden calf was just one of a long history of their habit of idolatry from Egypt. What he says is, God says is, but right there, before I even liberated them, I acted for the sake of my name, so it wouldn't be defiled in the eyes of the nations, and I brought them out of the land of Egypt.
Starting point is 00:40:23 So already, the Exodus is taking place amidst a fractured relationship. This couldn't be more opposite of Jeremiah chapter 2. Which is, I brought you into the wilderness and we fell in love. We fell in love. Well, yeah. And he's like saying, before I even brought you into the wilderness, the relationship was fundamentally broken. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:45 And that's what he's going to go on to say here then. So I brought them out of Egypt into the wilderness. Yeah. And I gave them my statutes and my judgments by which, if a person does them, he will have life. So we're remembering the giving of the laws of the Torah. verse 13 but the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness they didn't walk in my statutes and they rejected my judgments
Starting point is 00:41:10 so I said I'm done I'm gonna pour out my hot anger on them in the wilderness and bring them to an end you're like okay that yeah we read about that yep we read about that in numbers especially but I acted for the sake of my name so it wouldn't be defiled in the eyes of the nations I lifted my hand on oath to them in the wilderness and said, I'm not going to bring you, that is this generation into the land, the promised land. We're like, oh yeah. It reads like numbers. Yeah, yeah. So I said to your children in the wilderness. Yeah. This is like the Deuteronomy generation. Don't walk in the statutes of your fathers. Don't do what they did. Don't make yourselves impure with their idols.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I am Yahweh. Your Elohim. Verse 21, but the children rebelled against me. me. You're starting to get the pattern. So it goes on to talk about how the children of
Starting point is 00:42:07 the Exodus generation rebelled and you're like, I didn't really read about that in Deuteronomy.
Starting point is 00:42:15 We're really in Joshua. The Joshua generation did pretty good. But what he says is he made a promise
Starting point is 00:42:22 to them even before they went into the land that he was going to scatter them and exile
Starting point is 00:42:27 them from the land. And then he tells the story of the generation in the promised land, and you can just guess like it's the pattern. So what God says is that this long history culminates in a moment of God bringing this generation of Israel into what he calls in verse 35, the wilderness of the peoples, the wilderness of the nations. This is exile.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Yes. So now, this is like what Jose has said. I'm going to contain you. bring you out into a new wilderness that's going to be another terrible experience of scarcity and suffering and hardship. And Josea saw it as a place to fall in love again, like how Jeremiah thought about the first wilderness. Ezekiel says the first wilderness was a disaster. So it was every period of Israel's history.
Starting point is 00:43:23 But this latest wilderness of exile will be a place where I'm going to, verse 37 make you pass under the rod it's a shepherding image of like counting the sheep and I'm going to bring you into the bond of the covenant so we're going to forge a new covenant in this setting and I'm going to purge the rebels
Starting point is 00:43:47 from among you who have transgressed against me and then he goes on to say that I'm going to bring you into the land and you are going to worship me and have a new garden existence on my holy mountain. That's the shape of Ezekiel 20. So you can see the wilderness playing the same role that it did in the Torah as a place of testing and purifying
Starting point is 00:44:13 to purge the rebels so that if there are any righteous, right, who are faithful to Yahweh that he'll bring them into the garden land. Yeah. But the shape of the rhetoric of it is like, It didn't work, it didn't work, didn't work, didn't work. So I'm going to do it again. I'm going to do it again, and I'm going to make it work. And I'm going to make it work.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Yeah, totally. And that's Ezekiel. He will later on talk about how he's going to put his own life breath, his spirit in the hearts of his people, take out their stony heart, give them a new heart. So now we're back to, well, if we're never really ready. Yeah, how are we going to get ready? How are we going to get ready? And Ezekiel's...
Starting point is 00:44:54 The wilderness never actually does its job. That's right. How are we ever going to be ready? Yeah. So God's going to have to do something to so radically change the human being so that they are still human beings, but they're like divinely charged human beings who have God's breath animating their every thought and desire. Then a human could learn what they need to learn in the wilderness and actually live in the garden land for good.
Starting point is 00:45:24 So that gets us into themes that we'll talk about in future conversations. I think I just want to honor Josea, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel they all have the wilderness on the brain. Like this was such a formative season and maybe it was such a rich and turbulent season of Israel's story that the prophets
Starting point is 00:45:42 pulled different layers of meaning out of it. It's like a kaleidoscope of meanings that they tell around the wilderness. But it was foundational in their experience. It could be a time where you fall in love with Yahweh. It's the setting of the romance where you learn
Starting point is 00:46:02 to pursue the wisdom of Yahweh. But it could also be a time of containment to save you from yourself in a time of preparation. It also didn't work for the Israelites, but also it's going to work this time
Starting point is 00:46:20 somehow. Yeah. It points out both just drastic failure and also just radical hope in the generosity of God, yeah, to bring about the true lessons of the wilderness in a way that they stick. So there's no better setup then to walk into the New Testament from here. And lo and behold, where does the story near the beginning of all of the Gospels find the reader meeting a guy named John the baptizer? in the wilderness where Jesus goes and then he goes through a great test in the wilderness
Starting point is 00:47:01 and he passes like the wilderness does its job the wilderness does his job yeah okay so who saw that coming but the wilderness testing of Jesus is so important when you see the role that the wilderness played in the Hebrew Bible it just pops with new layers of meaning so we should look at that next
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