BibleProject - Trees of the Ancients – Tree of Life E2

Episode Date: January 13, 2020

View full show notes and images from this episode →ResourcesBruce Waltke, An Old Testament Theology: An Exegetical, Canonical, and Thematic Approach, 257William Osborne, Trees and Kings: A Comparati...ve Analysis of Tree Imagery in Israel’s Prophetic Tradition and the Ancient Near East. Terje Stordalen, Echoes of Eden Genesis 2-3 and Symbolism of the Eden Garden in Biblical Hebrew Literature.Charles Taylor, A Secular Age.MusicDefender Instrumental by TentsShow produced by Dan Gummel.Powered and distributed by Simplecast.

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Starting point is 00:00:36 Hey, this is John at the Bible Project. Last week, we began a new conversation with my friend and scholar, Dr. Tim McE, about the theme of trees in the Bible. Now, I'm a city boy, I didn't grow up on land, and went camping every once in a while. I've grown a couple tomato plants in my day, but in general, I don't spend a lot of time thinking about trees. The ancient peoples from the remote Western world of Egypt
Starting point is 00:01:01 to the eastern river marshes of Babylonia lived in the land, not simply on it. They were all agrarian cultures whose livelihood was found and maintained among the shade, fruit, shelter, and beauty of trees. There can be little doubt that this lifestyle had a significant effect on these ancient cultures and the way they perceive the world. Trees were some of the most sacred elements in ancient Near Eastern civilization. The biblical authors love to talk about trees,
Starting point is 00:01:34 and there's one tree in particular that stands out. It's on page two of the Bible, and it's at the very end of the Bible. It's crucial to the entire narrative of the biblical story, and that's the Tree of Life. Why a Tree of Life? We're gonna make a cultural step here. In the ancient Near East, the Tree of Life is a thing. It's a thing in Egypt, it's a thing in Babylon,
Starting point is 00:01:56 it's a thing in Canaanite, culture. The biblical authors are using a known image, but giving it a unique biblical meaning in light of the Yahweh story in biblical faith. So today, Tim and I discuss the Tree of Life as an ancient icon in Mesopotamian, Canaanite, and Egyptian culture, and we compare and contrast that with the biblical portrait. And in doing so, we'll find a new appreciation for the role of this mystical tree found on the second page of the Bible. Thanks for joining us. Here we go Let us talk about trees. Yes, we're gonna talk about trees, shall we? Well, we're having conversations
Starting point is 00:02:37 So we can make a video on a biblical theme. Yeah, which is I think I think I'm going to steer us towards the Tree of Life. There's two trees in Eden, in Genesis chapter 2, that are really important. We'll talk about them both. But I think, zeroing in on one of them, the Tree of Life, is a really cool theme that's rewarding, illuminates so much of what's going on in the Bible. So, I think it's a mysterious towards the Tree of Life. So we're going to talk specifically about Tree Life right now, but in the last episode
Starting point is 00:03:14 we set the table and showed how in the Bible there is this metaphorical scheme that people are like trees. In the biblical imagination, people and trees are like rhyming pairs of ideas. And so you can talk about people producing fruit and being cut off from other people to be fertile is to be rooted in the ground, to be unfurtles to be unruited. All these metaphors and spin out of that scheme. And that's important to understand that at this very fundamental level in the biblical imagination, this is an idea that's they're saturated in. Correct. People are like trees in general. So when page two of Genesis,
Starting point is 00:04:05 Genesis chapter two, zeroes in to talk about two specific kinds of trees in the garden that have important plot significance, I'm also now prepared to say, oh, here's two specific trees. So let me, as I learn about these trees, I'm also going to be learning about people. They're, I'm also going to be learning about people. They're also going to meet people in the story who are like these. In a tangental way, because the point of the tree of knowledge of good and bad and the tree of life isn't to just teach you about people. No, it's got a deeper significance.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Put a significant choice before the first human characters in the story, and that choice is paradigm. It's a paradigm. It sets the whole biblical story in motion so that later characters will also face their own Garden of Eden tree moment. But very often it won't be in front of a tree. It will be in front of another person who represents a tree of life or a tree of knowing good and bad type of story before them. So yeah, so let's first just talk about the trees. Before we talk about people who like the tree of life and the tree of knowing good bad, let's talk about these trees and what they mean. So we're introduced to two trees, as in Genesis chapter 2 verse 9.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yahweh God caused to sprout every tree from the ground. Is that same, Vaits? This is Vaits Makh. Yes, Makhn. Every tree from the ground that is pleasing to the eyes, good for eating. And the tree of life was in the middle of the garden, and the tree of knowing good and bad. Ordering the mention of the trees, and ordering of the plot significance. You can picture the camera like moving over.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Oh, that's right. Here's some beautiful trees that are good to look at. Oh, look at some fruit trees that can eat those. And then, whoa, what's this guy? Tree of life, awesome. And then boom, boom, boom. So it does seem like the author wants us to see both of these special trees in the middle. But he just says that of the tree of life. The tree of life is in the middle
Starting point is 00:06:37 and the tree of knowing good bad. Point is that they're next to each other. And we've actually talked recently about the tree of knowing good and bad at length. Yes, we have. So many times. Many times. Okay, let's talk about the tree of life first, then, of the pair. That's the first one mentioned. At baseline, what is this tree of life? Well, in Genesis 3, verse 22, God says something about that tree. This is after the humans rebel, and he says, oh, look, the human has become like one of us,
Starting point is 00:07:09 knowing good and bad. And now, he might stretch out his hand and take from the tree of life and eat and live forever. So the tree of life, in parts, it's pretty intuitive. It in parts, life eternal. Okay, so that's significant. Humans in this narrative don't have inherent within themselves on going immortal life. That's something humans have to receive as a gift from outside from God in the narrative through the conduit of the street. So humans are not created as on day six, as one, as eternal immortal beings.
Starting point is 00:07:52 If they're going to be immortal, they have to be given that as a gift, and that's the gift they forfeit. I don't wanna get bogged down. That's all right. But this is a bit of a, I don't know, not to be, but just really interesting thing to say that humans in and of themselves do not have any sort of eternal quality.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Well, I don't know if I'd say quality. Because the assumption is if humans could be given eternal life, they could experience it. It's that they don't have within themselves the capacity to live forever. That has to be a capacity power or energy given to them. And the tradition I grew up in, you took it as a given that humans, in some form, my consciousness like whatever would live forever, regardless. That was just kind of like baseline.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Right, right. Not necessarily, I never always thought of it in my body, but that in some way I would live forever. Sure. And then it would be in the good place with the bad place. So underneath that, but probably not mentioned is to live forever has to be a gift of God's sustaining life. It's not something that comes built into the human being. It has to be a gift given from God. So I
Starting point is 00:09:14 understand that too. When I first started following Jesus, same. That was the idea of eternal life I was introduced to. I'm sorry. I've just that humans live forever. But what wasn't as explicitly mentioned is for humans to do that is conditioned. It's contingent. It's something that comes from outside ourselves as a gift from God. And that's clearly the narrative implication here. God makes a creature. If you trust me, here's this tree that's my gift of eternal life. If you don't trust me, you don't get the that's my gift of eternal life to you.
Starting point is 00:09:45 If you don't trust me, you don't get the tree, which means no eternal life. It means death. It means death. And then it turns out that there are different layers of meaning to the word death. The day you eat of it, you will die. And then they eat of it and they don't die.
Starting point is 00:10:02 What they are is exiled, where they eventually die. But then it creates multiple layers of death. You can be alive physically, but be dead in terms of your covenant relationship with your creator. Which is why Paul can use the phrase you were dead in your sins and transgressions and Ephesians too. So Paul knows about physical death. But he also has another kind of death in his theology,
Starting point is 00:10:28 which is covenantal relational death with your creator. Or a death to a way of being. Oh, yes. Well, the way of being is being in the form of death. Dead to sin. Dead to sin. Oh, right. Yeah, which is being alive to God
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yeah, he can flip it. Okay, that's right. So I'll quote a biblical scholar this Bruce walkie towering figure in Old Testament studies he has a fat book that represents 50 years worth of teaching lecturing through the whole Hebrew Bible. It's called an old Testament theology worth of teaching lecturing through the whole Hebrew Bible. It's called an Old Testament Theology. Awesome. Book. He talks about the Tree of Life this way. He says, the Tree of Life represents life that is beyond the original life that God
Starting point is 00:11:14 breathed into the human. The first human, by nature, is susceptible to death, because if you don't eat from that tree, you're going to die. That's why God puts the next to the tree, so they can eat from it. So, back to walkie, he says, nevertheless, continued eating from that tree could renew life and prevent death. That's the narrative logic. Apart from disobedience to God's command,
Starting point is 00:11:37 mortals had access to this tree. The tree of life allows humanity to transcend its mortality, the state in which it was created on the sixth day, so it can move to a higher dimension to eternal life and immortality. As one partakes of this fruit by faith, one participates in this eternal life. This highest potency of life was available in the garden, and becomes, once again, available to us as we re-enter the temple garden through the second atom and Look forward to the resurrection of our bodies
Starting point is 00:12:11 So here he's actually reading the garden narrative in light of Paul the Apostles reflection on it in first Corinthians 15 We talked about how the first human was of the dust and mortal and Forfeited the opportunity of eternal life. And so that's what the second atom, Jesus, crucified and risen, that's what he secures for us. So that's just helpful clarifying image. The tree on a narrative level represents a gift of God's own eternal life to the humans if they will trust, and not take of the tree that's right next to the tree of life, which is the other one.
Starting point is 00:12:50 But that's just worth meditating on what the tree of life means. The tree of life means that eternal life is not innate to us. To the dirt creature. To dirt creatures. But it is something we can attain and it's a gift from God. Or something we can receive. Something we can receive. As a gift.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Yeah. Yeah, there you go. Like Harry says, the Tree of Life allows you to transcend its mortality, the state in which it was created to stay, and move to a higher dimension to eternal life and mortality. Yeah. Yeah. We've talked about this some. In other words, even in Genesis 1 and 2, you're introduced to other humanity, but then there's humanity next level. And that's a humanity, fully in tune with God, participating in God's own eternal life. And that's a version of humanity that is never realized in the story. It's true.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Until the resurrection of Jesus. Hmm. Yeah. We've talked about in the sci-fi world. What? What is that? Yeah. What is that new humanity?
Starting point is 00:14:00 What does it mean to have eternal life? Yeah. 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1 %, 1%, 1, 1%, 1%, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, One thing Paul does say in 1st 15th 15 is that flesh and blood, our current mode of human existence, isn't capable of existing in that way. And then he says that has to undergo, he uses the verb metamorphoto. Metamorphosis calls a resurrection and the transformation into resurrection existence as a metamorphosis. So in his imagination, do you think he thought that's what Adam and Eve would have what happened to them? Did Eve of the Tree of Life and ah, Fondue sort of cocoon in there?
Starting point is 00:15:33 Yeah, that's a good other side. Yes, because that's what he says about the second Adam. What he says is a second Adam Jesus is actually doing what the first Adam never attained, never achieved. So presumably, what was possible for the first Adam is what was possible for Jesus, but Jesus is the one who did it. I think in his mind, that's how it would work. But Jesus didn't come from the Atama, come from the dirt, right? He came from the womb of a woman. Yeah. But he was also the seed of heaven.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Yeah. Right? He's a seed of the spirit. He's both. Ah, but that's now we're to incarnation, the other. Yeah, incarnation. But the point is that Jesus is both heaven and earth united in one person. So Adam and Eve in a hypothetical world where they ate of the tree. in a hypothetical world where they ate of the tree. This is all conjecture at this point. Well, no, Genesis 3 verse 22, less he take, stretch out his hand and take from the tree of life and eat and live forever.
Starting point is 00:16:33 God says that's what will happen if the human eats from the tree of life. But then we go to Paul and Paul's like, well, look, the way our body is exists now, there has to be some set of sort of metaphorsists. Correct. So then we can go back and read this and go, well, Adam and Eve, we're gonna have to go through some sort of metamorphosis in the garden. Yeah, if they ate from the tree of life and lived forever, that would involve some ramping up. That's cool. I mean, we've talked about before how in a previous episode, I don't remember what the topic was, but that we're supposed to see Adam
Starting point is 00:17:06 and Eve as kind of like children. Or like- Correct. Yes, that's right. That's right. Not knowing good and bad. It's like a phrase used to describe children. Yes, so it was in the wisdom conversation. It's a biblical. Yeah. And that they're supposed to gain wisdom through this relationship with God and for meeting- and eating of the tree of life and is all connected.
Starting point is 00:17:25 So you get this picture of humanity in its infancy. Yes, yeah, that's right. With the call to become more. Become more. Yeah. You know what's really interesting is I like to think about future stuff, futureism. Yeah, I like that about you. And a lot of people who get geeky about futurism,
Starting point is 00:17:46 some people talk about this idea of becoming transhuman. There's a whole like transhumanism, transhumanist culture, subculture. Yeah. And I've never really liked that word, because it makes me feel like, oh, we're losing your humanity. But the whole idea behind it is, like, look, because of medical progress and technological progress, which we're connected, we can foresee a time when what it means to be human becomes so different
Starting point is 00:18:19 than what it has meant to be human. But using the word human doesn't really, doesn't get us there anymore. We've become something more. And so there's Christian transhumanists who think about that and they think about technology and they think about all this stuff, and they try to connect it to the biblical narrative.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Correct. Yeah, what does that mean to think about that within the biblical narrative for you to have mind? Which I think is really fascinating thought experiment, especially as we're going to in the next decades of human civilization, deal with things we just never had to deal with before. Totally.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Yeah. In terms of what does it need to be human? There's a similar narrative resemblance between that and the biblical story of God upgrading humanity into resurrection life. Yeah. That Jesus experience and I mean if you believe in the resurrection of Jesus that Jesus experiences right now and the way that Jesus exists in his body is very different than the way I exist in my body. For starters I cannot see him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:25 He exists in a way that I cannot perceive. But sometimes people do perceive him. He's appeared bodily to the first whole first generation and the many people throughout history. I haven't had that experience. I often wish. I think that I wish. I could.
Starting point is 00:19:43 There are other times where I wonder if that's, well's how I would feel about it if it actually happened. But that's another matter. So yeah, there's a resemblance to humanity being metamorphosis. I mean, that's the word Paul uses. Metamorphosis. In the blink of an eye, we shall be metamorphosed, he says. Yeah. Into the next mode of existence. And trans means beyond. Beyond. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:06 It's transhuman, beyond dirt, beyond Adam. Yeah, we're in post-language, beyond flesh and blood. The current physical mode, which doesn't mean into non-physical, into the next level of physical. Which might be flesh and bloody. Which might be flesh and bloody. And but. Well, I have some kind of physical makeup
Starting point is 00:20:25 because Jesus appears to people with- In the eight food, and she. But it's a different kind of physicality. Different kind of physicality. And again, I don't know anything about quantum physics, but reality is much stranger than our eyes and ears and taste and smell. Let's us perceive it to be.
Starting point is 00:20:42 There are things that are real that cannot be perceived through our bodily senses, but that are real. They're called quarks and dark matter. They're all kinds of things. So at the base of the biblical narrative is humans are called to be more. And that more is connected to eternal life. Correct.
Starting point is 00:21:06 And whatever it is, no one but Jesus in the whole biblical story attains it. Correct. But we are told that those who follow, believe, will have this resurrected life. Yeah, yeah, that he did for others what they couldn't do for themselves so that his life could become a gift to them.
Starting point is 00:21:29 That's there on life. That's the nature of Jesus as our representative or substitute. He goes into our kind of mortal death so that he can emerge out the other side. That's, so it's all connected to the root, I could pun intended, root ideas in the Garden of Eden. Humans are cut off from the opportunity for eternal life because of our inclination towards selfishness and self-destruction.
Starting point is 00:22:00 There's also something really interesting here in Genesis 3.22 when God says, you know, let's we got to kick him out. He might stretch out his hand and take from the tree of life. He and live forever. It's almost like a mercy. It's kind of like now that you are going to self-destruct. At least don't do it forever. Yeah, no, let's put an end to it. Let's make sure that it doesn't last. That's exactly right. Because you self-destructing forever, that's horrible. Yeah, let's make sure that it doesn't last forever because you yourself distracting forever, that's horrible. Yeah, that's horrible. The cruel. Yeah, that's right. That's a curse.
Starting point is 00:22:31 So the greatest curse. It's a mercy to saying, correct. I'm going to keep you away from eternal life. Correct. That's right. It's really fast. So that I can get you back there in one way or another. Well, yeah, and then that's how the story continues.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Yeah, because and the way that you're going to get back there in Genesis 3 is through a seed. Ah, that's right. In Genesis 3.15, there will be a seed, a descendant who comes who will undo what has been done in Eden. It's Genesis 3.15. So that's the tree of life. It's a gift of God's own life through the vehicle of a tree.
Starting point is 00:23:08 The tree is the image of something that translates God's life to me. Trees are people. So people can become conduits of God's life and blessing to me. Now we're introduced into why people can be called trees of life in the book of Proverbs. So the tree, so people, the tree of life can be people, but the tree of life is bigger than just. Yes. People can be like the tree of life. But this idea of the tree of life. Yeah. Now, this is a narrative, this is not poetry, but it seems like a poetic image of sorts.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Yeah. Yeah. It's a narrative image of God's own energy and life being what? Given to me, transported. Now where do you get that? Well, oh, because trees are not God. Yes. God gave the trees the gift of self-prepetuating life on page one, right? So a tree that imparts life can't isn't like a magical tree imparting its own life to me. It's imparting the life of God to me. And trees are like God in having a kind of perpetual life, right? God is the author of all life and self-regeneration. And trees in Genesis 1 are like an image of that. So God creates an avocado tree.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I eat the avocado and nourishes my body so I can live for a longer. The life that came from the avocado, God was the originator of that. Originally, in terms of, I mean, we're talking about actually pretty nuanced ways thinking about God's causality in the world. So we're talking about God as ultimate cause. Yeah, with all kinds of trillions of stages of other contingent causes that cause the development
Starting point is 00:25:03 of biological life and trees and all this. Leading up to that avocado, that... So, that kind of schema in mind. Correct. Then you can say, cool, there's this other type of tree, the tree of life. It doesn't produce fruit that you eat and urges your body. Yeah. And as much as it produces a fruit that you eat and lets you live forever and transcend or mortality. And you're saying that tree,
Starting point is 00:25:31 there isn't like just some like magic tree thing that like just kind of exists. You're saying it represents God's own life. A narrative image of God's life being carried over to me through the vehicle of this tree. And so then we're to the next step, which is why a tree of life. Why a tree of life? And now we're going to make a cultural step here. In the ancient Near East, the tree of life is a thing. Oh, okay. It's a thing in Egypt, it's a thing in Babylon in Babylon, to sing in Canaanite culture.
Starting point is 00:26:05 It's a basic. The biblical authors are using a known image from their cultural context, but giving it a unique biblical meaning in light of the Yahweh's story in biblical faith. So let's take a few minutes. Yeah, let's do a tree of life in the ancient Near East. So lots of resources here. I'll just name two. One is a helpful book called By William Osborne called Trees and Kings, a comparative analysis of tree imagery in Israel's prophetic tradition and the ancient Near East. It sounds like a book title.
Starting point is 00:27:27 That's gonna be hard to read. It's an academic volume. Really, really insightful. So that's one way to start. Another one I forgot to list here in the notes. So I'll just tell you about it and our. It's by a scholar, Terhé Stordalen, called Echoes of Eden, Genesis 2 and 3, and Eden symbolism in biblical Hebrew literature. It's the most comprehensive study on the Garden of Eden
Starting point is 00:27:56 that's ever been done. It's almost 600 pages. It's encyclopedic. It's like reference work. It's encyclopedic. It's like reference work. But a whole section of the book is on Garden, Eden, Tree of Life, imagery in ancient Near Eastern cultures. So these are kind of go-to resources for all of this. So let's go back to Osborne. He has a great introductory chapter. He has a huge long chapter on Tree of life in ancient Near Eastern cultures.
Starting point is 00:28:25 He has a great way of introducing it. He says, as any astute tourist quickly observes, the landscape of much of the Near East is predominantly stark and barren. The land is comprised of innumerable shades of brown, with only brief interjections of green and blue. With the blue green and blue. With blue. Trees and water. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:47 The higher an elevation one goes, the greener the picture becomes. Consequently, mountains and rivers, along with the forest that adorned them, seem to be natural focal points for anyone who lives or travels in these lands. The ancient peoples from the remote western world of Egypt to the eastern river marshes of Babylonia lived in the land not simply on it. They were all agrarian cultures, meaning farming cultures, whose livelihood was found and maintained among the shade, fruit, shelter, and beauty of trees. As a result, there can be a little doubt that this lifestyle had a significant effect on these ancient cultures and the way they perceived the world. Trees were some of the most sacred elements in ancient Near Eastern civilization. So let's just stop with that register. Sacred trees.
Starting point is 00:29:41 So trees are these, so this is hard for me having grown up in the Pacific. Yeah, just full of trees. Where you imagine living in a land where trees are unique and big, flourishing green trees and marshes and wet ponds with all kinds of life, those are unique. You would view them in a totally different way. There's this big stamp on them that says,
Starting point is 00:30:09 like there's life here. Life, life. Where's that water coming from down there? Must be connected to some deep source of life down there. Where all this tree and life and fruit, it's such a gift. It's a divine gift. And I noticed that the higher I go in elevation, the more of that green is up there. Especially at the top of things.
Starting point is 00:30:32 So that's what he's saying. High places and trees and pools and rivers are charged with divine life meaning in all of these cultures. In Israelite culture, that was where it was birthed and came up in. Especially in a land that has a lot of wilderness and or desert, high desert, yeah, trees, really stand out. So let's just quick survey here.
Starting point is 00:31:00 We could nerd out for a long time, but quick survey. In ancient Egypt, William Osborne has a whole section. There are multiple gods, but one in particular, this interesting, a newt, who is the Sky Goddess. If you look, there's a lot of famous Egyptian depictions of the cosmos depicting a female goddess whose toes and fingers represent the blue sky dome above us.
Starting point is 00:31:24 And sometimes she's raining milk from her breasts, like nursing, giving rain, to the image of rain. This is new. It gives life. So she's the sky goddess who sustains the order of Egyptian sky goddess who sustains the order of the skies. Newt is sometimes portrayed as standing in the middle of a tree, giving fruit and water and food to people standing and giving honor to her.
Starting point is 00:31:53 So that sounds like a contradiction in our minds. The sky is now down here, but that's for sure. That's cool. But if you think about the sky, it gives water. And once the water hits the ground, what happens? It burrs vegetation and trees. And so the trees are like a gift of newt in the Egyptian world. So newt is in the sky, but she's also the author of the fruit in the tree too because she provides the rain, the growth.
Starting point is 00:32:20 So the whole point is there's all these famous scenes in Egyptian, in the book of the Dead, one of the most famous Egyptian texts. You'll find Newt in the middle of the tree offering fruit of life to her worshipers. Significant? William Osborne also notes that kings are often portrayed as trees. So you have a goddess as a tree. In Egypt. In Egypt, you also have kings depicted as trees. So you have a goddess as a tree. In Egypt, this is me. In Egypt, you also have kings depicted as trees. So he just highlights a few,
Starting point is 00:32:50 I have one picture here from the Temple of Karnak where in Egyptian king, Seti the first from the 1200's BC, the depiction of his like coronation. And he's standing in a tree or as a tree and he's being given a scepter by I think it's the God, what I say, thoth. And thoth is also with one hand giving the scepter, with the other hand, thoth is writing Sete's name in the leaves of the tree. It's really interesting. So what he's, the God is, the God is
Starting point is 00:33:23 giving the power of fertility in life over to the king. Now, the king is the one responsible, because in Egyptian belief systems, the king is the incarnation of the gods. So the gods are among us in the person of the king, as a tree of life. He's the one now providing. So Osborne's observation is just the trees are a gift of the gods, and then the human king who is the embodiment of the god is in control of the produce and maintaining orders of the tree can produce.
Starting point is 00:33:58 That's Egypt. In Assyria and Babylon, for the most part, these cultures did not view their kings as incarnation of the gods. But as appointed by the gods. So still like, you know, they control what the gods give you and that kind of thing. Middleman. Middleman. Yeah, middle management.
Starting point is 00:34:18 But sacred trees and gardens are a huge thing. Oh, yeah, you look this up once. The gardens of Babylon. Yeah, this is a famous a huge thing. Oh yeah, you look this up once. The gardens of Babylon. Yeah, this is a famous, famous thing. So yeah, if you just Google like a serial of Babylon and gardens, you'll get all these famous ancient drawings. So I've got a couple pictures of Asher Bonapal, a famous Acerian king, and there's either depictions of him in the center of a garden feasting with the gods. It's a wall carving that depicts him in his castle up in, it looks like the Garden of Eden.
Starting point is 00:34:52 And there's a river coming out of the royal sacred garden, and then it divides outside of it to water the rest of the land. Just like the river. And in royal propaganda, the kings will write these descriptions. They describe the gardens are a little microcosm symbol of the whole empire. He maintains the royal gardens as the image of his control and maintenance of the whole empire. He controls the fertility of the garden.
Starting point is 00:35:23 He controls the fertility of the garden. He controls the fertility of the. So yeah, this is in inscription of another Assyrian king, Sinacarib, he says, by the will of the gods, vines, fruit trees, olive trees, aromatic trees flourished in my gardens, cypress trees, groutal, sanding out shoots. I created a marsh for the flow of the water, for the gardens, the birds of the heavens, the herons, the boars, and the deer
Starting point is 00:35:50 gave birth in abundance. But notice, he's saying I created. Yeah. This is my making. Yeah, so this is royal garden. This is an image familiar to an ancient thinker. Correct. So for Adam and Eve to be put in this garden,
Starting point is 00:36:07 they're thinking Royal Garden. Correct. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Royal Garden, correct. The next step, just real briefly here, is particularly of the concept of a particular tree
Starting point is 00:36:19 that gives the gift of divine life to those who eat it. This is a thing. Seems like this motif originated like the earliest drawings and descriptions of it are from ancient Mesopotamia, even pre-Babbalon. So this in Sumeria and so on. But they're developed this motif image of this beautiful fruitful tree in the middle of a garden
Starting point is 00:36:42 with two goats eating from it, or two cherubim, like winged animal human-like creatures eating from it. And so the heavenly beings, when you have cherubim around it, it's guarded by the gods. When you have goat seeding from it, it's the idea of accessible to the creatures of the earth, but that all of the fertility of the earth comes as a gift from God, symbolized in the sacred tree. So it's kind of like a stock image that, you know, we have these in many cultures, have stock. Sure.
Starting point is 00:37:17 It's an icon. It's an ancient iconic brand. Yeah, totally. It's the God's brand. Yeah, they're Mark. If you're gonna talk about the gift of the gods that sustains and creates life, and you wanted one image, it would be a tree.
Starting point is 00:37:34 A tree, yeah, either guarded by the heavenly creatures or accessed by earthly creatures, particularly goats and gazelles, where the main variations of the motif. So I just have a bunch of pictures of it. You can just see different variations of it. One of which was found on a broken potshard with a bunch of Semitic inscriptions on it
Starting point is 00:37:59 in the Sinai Peninsula called Contillate Az-Rud. From the eighth to ninth century BC when Israelite monarchy is just up north. So this is an image that has its pre-Israelite and it has a long after life even into the Israelite period. So, okay, here's Osborne's conclusions. Tree imagery has three interwoven layers of significance. One, abundance and prosperity comes from the gods, and that is depicted with the lush gardens tree-filled forests.
Starting point is 00:38:33 That's a way of talking about the gods of given life to the bear land. Second, deities and their powers to give fertility are often associated with tree symbolism. So you can just be abundance in general comes from the gods and forests and gardens represent that. Particular gods who give fertility can be depicted as trees. We saw that with Nute.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Yeah. There's a Canaanite goddess who we'll talk about later because she met, we meet her in the biblical story called either Ashrah or Ashta wrote, and her idol images of a tree planted in the garden. Yes, and people perform ritual sex in front of the tree. This was a thing in Cain and I culture. There you go, she's a deity. Third is kings who mediate the power of the gods can be symbolized as trees. In other words, kings who grow gardens or are caretakers of it can be described and depicted as trees. We saw that in Egypt where he had the king.
Starting point is 00:39:37 They're also portrayed as taking care of the trees. Correct. Caretakers of the trees. But then like in that Egyptian temple of Karnak, you have Seti, who's in the tree, whose name is being written on the tree. He's becoming a tree. And he's receiving a scepter. So the king becomes the tree of life as the embodiment of the gods. They're interwoven.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Trees are the gift of the gods. Specific gods can be depicted as trees and humans whom the gods, specific gods can be depicted as trees and humans whom the gods have appointed to care and help cultivate fertility. They can be trees as well. So contrast and compare all of this with Genesis 1 and 2. You have God as the giver of fertility and life in Genesis 1. He's the one behind the trees.
Starting point is 00:40:24 He's not identified as a tree, but the tree can be a conduit of his life through its fruit. In Genesis 1 and 2, humanity is given the royal kingly task of caring for the royal sacred garden. Not just one, King, but all humanity is depicted. This is our image of God in conversation. Yeah, can I ask you about that? Sure, because I love that image, that all humanity are the kings. Yeah, are in the role of kings. In the kings, yes.
Starting point is 00:40:56 And I want to understand how we get there because it says that male and female. So it could just mean that the first two humans were the image of God. How do we then draw the inference that then and all their offspring? Oh, got it. Yeah, the genealogy in Genesis 5 talks about human that is male and female being made in the image of God. And then their
Starting point is 00:41:25 Seth, the Givertu, is in the image of a dime. So the image is resembled. Yeah, and then the image of God is mentioned in Genesis 9 with the prohibition of murder. Oh, right. Yes. Because he made the image. And there it's clearly everyone. Correct. Yep. So while in the ancient imagination there is a king who is the image of God, who rules on God's behalf, is like a tree, takes care of the trees, has the power of the gods for life and fertility. In Genesis, it's humanity. Yeah. All together is that, is the image of God. That's right. That's right. So that's a similarity, but also a difference. Same with the tree itself. In the ancient erys, the trees are symbols of specific gods. Oh really? are symbols of specific gods. Oh really?
Starting point is 00:42:24 Mm-hmm. We've got it with notes. With a note, the sky goddess in Egypt. Uh-huh. Or with Asura in Canaanite culture. And granted, it's a symbol, but an idol is a physical manifestation. In Genesis 1, humans are the idols of God. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Not a tree. Yeah. Humans are the image of God. Not trees or animals. However, there is a tree that conveys the life of God to the image of God. And that's what the tree of life represents. Convays. Yeah. Like to choose that word.
Starting point is 00:42:58 What's that? Convays. Oh, I've actually been looking for that word multiple times earlier. It transport carries. It transport carries. It carries. Yeah. But I think the biblical authors are careful. They don't want us to conclude that the tree has its own deified magical powers.
Starting point is 00:43:17 And how are they careful? Ah, by depicting the trees as something God creates. Something God created. They're a type of creature that God gives life to. And then he designates this one tree to, and again, it's in the middle of the garden. That's actually, that's really important. That's temple imagery. You have the middle, then the garden, then Eden around that. Eden is a region within Eden is a garden. Within the garden middle.
Starting point is 00:43:45 And that three part is precise mapping onto the design pattern of the temple. And Matter Quartz, Interquartz, the Holy Place, the Holy Place, and then the Holy of Holies. So the tree of life is in the spot of the Ark of the Covenant, which is, you always throne. That's one thing.
Starting point is 00:44:11 The second thing is when Moses goes up on to Mount Sinai into the cloud, where there's that bush up there. The burning bush tree is up there, and we're told that he has shown a vision of God's heavenly temple. Of course, that's what Eden is. Eden is the overlap of heaven and earth. So the tree of life is the hotspot of God's presence. And so to eat from the tree is this image of being in God's own life presence. That gives you eternal life. So I just know, because this happened to me, the thing about the tree became a distraction from the meaning of the idea, which is proximity to God's presence, his life being given to me, and I receive it. Let's help for connecting it to Temple. Yes. So where you would expect the center of the temple, which represents where God Himself sits,
Starting point is 00:45:00 and it's a very holy place, And in the narrative where that would be, is where this tree is. Yeah, that's right. And so, and in the temple, all the paneling around you, is Cherubim and Pomegranate trees. Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, woven into it. Yeah. And so with that image in mind, the tree of life is about your proximity and connection to God Himself. Correct. Yeah, you got it. Okay. So when God says, eat of the tree of life, He's saying, be in my presence and live life with
Starting point is 00:45:41 me. Yeah. Yeah. And in doing so, the ingesting of God's life is a powerful image of union. Yeah. It's not just like it's a very intimate image of not just walking with me, which is another image in Jesus, but of consuming God's Yeah. Yeah. We're very close. This is the seed bed, pun intended, of the Christian concept of communion,
Starting point is 00:46:10 of the Eucharist, the bread and the cup, in gesting the gift of divine life. That's cool. Yeah. But it's bread and fruit. Yeah. In Hebrew bread can just mean food. Mm.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Food in general. But the separate thing, separate thing, one step at a time. Yeah, so the tree of life is both a portrait that was recognizable to ancient readers, but also has its own biblical author's are you know, they're doing little yes, they're throwing some elbows They're doing little, they're throwing some elbows with their Egyptian and Babylonian neighbors as they portray the tree not as a god, but as... We're taking a familiar idea. Correct, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:53 And then they're using that idea to convey a very Hebrew idea. Yeah, it's been soaked in the biblical conviction. The nature of their god. Correct. And the nature of the story that they believe humanity is living. Yeah. In relationship to the Creator God.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Correct. Yeah. So think big picture with me now. Big picture. Kind of close this part of the conversation. The main plot conflict of the biblical story is humans through their rebellion, evil, and violence forfeiting the chance to eat of the tree of life.
Starting point is 00:47:28 And you know, this is how plots work. When you introduce a plot conflict, the way that you resolve it is somehow circling back to that first thing that caused the conflict. If there's a movie about you and me getting into a fight and going our two ways throughout a decade. The way that plot conflict will be resolved is us coming back to that. Coming back to the fight.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Coming back to the moment. Yeah, and having to resolve the thing that started it all. And so in a similar way, the Genesis 3 sets you up to be, however this plot conflict is going to be resolved, it's going to have to come back to a tree on a high place, right? Where disobedient, selfish, short-sighted humans deal with that problem that got created by the tree on the high place. And so the authors of the Gospels are all very, very, very tuned into this when they depict the trial and the crucifixion of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:48:25 They know what they're doing. And they use vocabulary. As we'll see, they use vocabulary and imagery that's tuned into the tree and the garden. Okay. Okay, we'll get there. We'll get there eventually, but just saying it's worth really.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Big's question's for me, but we'll get there. But I do like and I kinda wanna land back at this image of proximity with God the tree of life Yes, yes, in that you know going back to this idea of humans and their infancy Mm-hmm and having to Metamorph Yes, and then how it's through this connection Yes intimacy yeah with God That is about proximity, but it's also about this kind of
Starting point is 00:49:08 consummation. This is like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, taking of God and adjusting of his life, and it will transform you. And that's the picture of kind of the ideal. Yes, it is. Yep. Is being in this state of a relational proximity in which you're transformed through God's life inside of you. Yeah. Yep. That's right. And so whatever happens in this story, we're trying to get back to that state.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Yeah. Yeah. We're trying to get to a place where God's own life is ingested, it becomes internal to humans, and in so doing, it transforms them into a new mode of existence that is called in Genesis 3.22, eternal life. Eternal life. Yeah, it's not a common phrase in biblical Hebrew. There's a phrase length of days, having long days in the land, but the phrase,
Starting point is 00:50:06 life, the olem, forever is not that common of a phrase. When we meet it in the New Testament, it's coming from Genesis 3. Eternal life. We'll get to that. Yeah, yeah, John 17. This is eternal life, knowing the Father and the one who may sent Jesus to Messiah. That's eternal life. Yeah. Well, that makes sense if eternal life comes from this relational proximity, then to call eternal life knowing God makes perfect sense. Yeah, correct. Knowing in a relational experiential way. 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc
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Starting point is 00:51:24 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc There's a philosopher named Charles Taylor who wrote a really important book that I've yet to finish, because it's so long, it's called the Secular A. In the opening, he tries to find a word that in the book will stand for human experience of the transcendent, of the ultimate good. And he chooses the word fullness. And he has all section defining it. But he describes fullness as a state of peace, harmony, relational harmony.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Kind of feels like connected to the idea of the seven. Oh, yeah, full completeness. completeness. And it's both related to our physical needs. When your stomach is full, there's a peace. It's temporary. But there's a peace of like, I don't need anything right now. It's a peace that leads to a nap.
Starting point is 00:52:26 When I have fullness of relationship, I feel secure and cared for. I don't feel need or lack. So there's something about food and relationships that are these physical experiences of a complete net fullness. And then he begins to talk about existential fullness through work and vocation and sense of meaning and purpose. He talks about the history of fullness in the Christian tradition, was very developed, it was a big theme of the discipleship to Jesus means learning to live life to fall in that kind of fullness that's available through the life of the spirit of Jesus. And then essentially he paints the rise of modern Western society as a rival list of fullness of a society
Starting point is 00:53:21 that constructs a different story about how you get fullness. How you get fullness. And it's an interesting way to paint the rise of the modern West as a rival set of offerings for fullness. The rival, the biblical story. New ways to fill yourself. New ways to fill yourself. But he says the baseline, what everybody assumes is that human life
Starting point is 00:53:44 exists in a state of pretty much perpetual want and need for more on a physical level, but also on a relational existential level. And what better image of the fulfillment of that desire than the garden imagery of Genesis 1 and 2? It makes perfect sense. Even if you didn't grow up in ancient Near East, the garden, if the Eden, has been an image of fullness for people all over the planet, for millennia now. It's a beautiful image because of that, but then also because it's not a fullness that leads to an apathy. It's a fullness that bleeds to awe and adventure and like productivity.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Yeah, yeah. Gardens don't cultivate themselves. Yeah. Right. And you can continue to grow the garden and think of new ways to make the garden expand. And you're working in it and you're enjoying it. Sometimes I think of fullness to this degree of just like staleness of just kind of like, you know, there's nothing else. Yeah, I got it.
Starting point is 00:54:53 And it's not an ending, it's like it's a launching pad. It's a type of way to now exist in a new productivity. Yeah, the need for fullness speaks to an innate human desire and need for something more. Something more. But not just something more the only that I passively received to your point, something more for me to do and to be a part of. We'll call the rule. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:55:19 We're being filled up so that we can then rule. Yeah. And what does it mean to rule the world and subdue it? Yeah, that's right. And it should mean creating generosity and love, justice, but creating more and more potential for that too. Correct. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:37 I think it's a really cool image. Yeah, the Tree of Life. Tree of Life. You spend a long time thinking about the Tree of Life. Yeah. It's a beautiful image. Thanks for listening to this episode about the tree of life. Yeah, it's a beautiful image. Thanks for listening to this episode of the Bible Project Podcast. Next week, we're going to look at the other tree
Starting point is 00:55:52 found in the second page of the Bible, the tree of knowing good and evil. The reason that the tree is there in the garden, it's a powerful image of the nature of all human experience. Every good thing in my life is also matched by an equal or greater number of opportunities to ruin it. So these two trees are intertwined, the tree of life and the tree of knowing good and bad, how you relate to one determines how you relate to the other.
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