BibleProject - We’ve Been on This Mountain Before

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

The Mountain Hyperlink Episode (E13) — If you’ve been following along in our series on the mountain, you may have had moments where you thought, “I feel like I’ve heard this before.” And tha...t’s because you have—we’ve been on this mountain before! There are so many themes in the Bible, from mountains to tabernacles, to tests and cities. And while we try to isolate and study themes on their own, the Bible intentionally weaves them together. So whenever you encounter one theme in the Bible, it’s always connected to and building on other themes in a beautiful tapestry. Today, we’re trying something new called a hyperlink episode, where we’ll play clips from previous series that interact and overlap with the theme of the mountain.View all of our resources for The Mountain →CHAPTERS Apocalypse on the Mountain (0:00-11:28)A Mountain Refuge City  (11:28-22:41)Priestly Failures on the Mountain (22:41-49:45)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPTView this episode’s official transcript.REFERENCED RESOURCESClip 1 is from “A Walking, Talking Apocalypse,” episode 5 in our 2020 series, Apocalyptic Literature.Clip 2 is from “Jerusalem: A Tale of Two Cities,” episode 9 in our 2023 series The City.Clip 3 is from “Doomed to Fail?” episode 3 in our 2021 series, The Royal Priest.Check out Tim’s library here.You can experience our entire library of resources in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.SHOW MUSIC“Rest Until Dark” by Sleepy Fish“Canary Forest” by Middle School, Aso, & AviinoBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITSProduction of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer, and he edited today’s episode and provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host for today is Michelle Jones. Our creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.Powered and distributed by Simplecast.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to Bible Project Podcast. I'm your host today, Michelle Jones, back to wrap up our series, The Mountain. Now, before we move on to our next series, we're going to try something a little different. We're calling it a hyperlink edition, where we'll play clips from previous series related to the mountain theme. Now, there are many themes in the Bible, from mountains to tabernacles, from tests to cities, and while we attempt to isolate and study themes on their own, it's good to remember that biblical themes are woven together. Whenever you encounter a theme in the Bible, it is connected to and building off of other
Starting point is 00:00:43 themes in a beautiful tapestry. So today we're going to play clips from previous series that interact and overlap with the theme of the mountain. Now remember the mountain is the place where God's domain and our domain overlap. To be on the mountain we must learn that we are made for heaven on earth, which is symbolized in the Bible as the top of a cosmic mountain. God invites us to ascend and remain in his presence there. But ascending the mountain requires us to face tests. Will we lay down things we think bring life, or will we surrender to God's wisdom? And while we often fail these tests, Jesus has ascended the mountain for us and He invites
Starting point is 00:01:28 us to ascend with Him. Let's look at these ideas deeper as they relate to apocalypses in the Bible, the theme of the city of God, and the origin of the priesthood. Thanks for joining us. Here we go. Our first segment is from our series on how to read apocalyptic literature. Now, an apocalypse isn't simply about the end of the world. An apocalypse is actually any moment where you have a sudden realization of what is true about the world
Starting point is 00:02:06 and true about ourselves. An apocalypse is the moment the curtain is pulled back and you see something for what it really is. Now to have this kind of grand perspective, it is helpful to be up high, like up on a mountain. From the mountaintop we can see things for what they really are. And on the mountain you are invited to connect with God in a radically intimate way, what the Bible calls being in the image of God. And ultimately, on the mountain you can encounter
Starting point is 00:02:37 the one who is at the center and meaning of everything, Jesus Himself. And one way to think about all of this is having an apocalypse. So, here are Tim and John talking about having an apocalypse on the mountain from our 2020 Apocalyptic Literature series, episode 5, titled A Walking Talking Apocalypse. Let's listen in. Here's what's key. So, I think the whole biblical story flows out of this. We're given the ideal in Genesis 1 of an image of God, humanity, that consists of male and female, a whole humanity that is one image of God, ruling and representing and being the incarnation of God in earth so that heaven and earth are one, but through humans. And that's the ideal given on page one. Genesis two, as it were, begins the real story,
Starting point is 00:03:33 like what happened? Here's the ideal, Genesis one, let's begin the narrative, Genesis two. And what you see is humans forfeiting the gift, corrupting their vocation and being exiled from the heaven and earth spot. Yeah. In Genesis 2, God is there as well. Totally. Yeah. God is there and His human images are there.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Because Eden is heaven and earth. It's a place where heaven and earth are not different things. That's the whole point of what the high cosmic mountain garden is. Yahweh is there in the garden as well as the people. The people, Adam and Eve, are invited to come closer, so to speak, through the tree in the middle. What they end up doing is acting foolishly, trying to get their own wisdom on their own terms, and so what they are is separated. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:21 And so, here's what's interesting then. All of these apocalyptic moments, they happen to Abraham, they happen to Jacob, they happen to Moses, they happen to David, they happen to all of these prophets, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah. They are all moments when somebody, a human out in the realm of mortality gets transported and altered states of consciousness back into Eden. And who do they see there? They see a human figure, often seated on a throne or sitting in the middle of the tree, like with what Moses sees in the burning bush.
Starting point is 00:04:56 They see a human figure and this human figure is sometimes called the angel of Yahweh. We made a video about this. This human figure is sometimes called Yahweh sitting on his throne. Or the ancient of days in the revelation. Yeah, or the son of Adam, the son of humanity who is in the realm of suffering and death but is exalted up to the throne. So what's happening in the biblical story here is all rooted in how Genesis 1 and 2 work. That Yahweh, who's been up in the garden, these visionaries who are lost in the mess of human history in their lives, and like Moses... Out in exile, suddenly getting transported back to Eden.
Starting point is 00:05:37 And who do they meet there but a human looking figure, but who is also Yahweh. This is what the elders on Mount Sinai and Moses see in Exodus 24. It says they see God. There's a throne above this pavement. Right, the emerald pavement or whatever. Yeah, which means they're on a high place right up there. They're in the skies. They're in the skies. To be on the top of the mountain is to be in heaven because it's where heaven and earth overlap. When you say they see a human image there, Adam and Eve walking in the garden with God,
Starting point is 00:06:12 what did they see? Exactly. I think it's a design pattern. The Eden narrative leaves you hanging like, well, what did it look like for them to encounter Yahweh up there? Then you get to Moses and he ends up in the Eden spot and what he sees is the angel of Yahweh in a bush. Then later, Exodus 24, the elders in Moses are eating a meal up on the mountain, not on the summit, but near the summit, and they see God and the throne and a platform, and the platform is the blue sky dome, then you get to Isaiah and he can see the lower half of Yahweh in the temple with the divine counsel. You get to Ezekiel and the mountaintop realm is mobile and comes and visits him in an altered
Starting point is 00:06:59 state of consciousness. And he says, I saw the glory of Yahweh like an Adam upon the throne, the appearance of an Adam. That's what Daniel sees. I think what all of this is rooted in is they are seeing Yahweh as a human, in a human form, in Eden. I think that's what all these apocalypses are. So here we're invited into a very ancient Christian interpretation of the image of God by a church father scholar named Irenaeus. He understood the image of God in Genesis 1 to be referring ultimately to pre-incarnate Jesus and that Adam and Eve are the image of the true image which is the incarnate God. And then he goes back and he sees all of these human appearances
Starting point is 00:07:48 of Yahweh the way the apostles saw them, which is as the pre-incarnate Jesus. So he's reading the Eden narrative in Genesis 1 and 2 in light of the whole biblical story of the image of God. And I used to think like, oh, that's kind of fanciful, but I actually think he's onto something. In other words, what I'm saying is I think this idea is actually rooted in the Hebrew Bible and all of these unfolding design patterns of apocalypse. So you're saying that when God creates humans in His image, you know, whatever form the Creator of all things takes is mind boggling, we'll never know.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Yeah, that's right. That's the ancient of days. That's the ancient of days. And so you could talk about him as like a old man on fire, but you know. Right. Yeah, it's clear we're pushing the boundaries of human imagination.
Starting point is 00:08:43 But when he designs creatures who are going to image him, then you've got humans. Humans, yeah. But what you're saying is notice that that's actually the shape that Yahweh takes when he does appear. When he does appear. And so there's actually already an image of Yahweh appearing to the images of Yahweh.
Starting point is 00:09:07 And that is sometimes the angel of the Lord, it's the son of man. Or sometimes just called Yahweh. Or sometimes just called Yahweh. And this is Jesus. The apostles identify that one as the one whom they met in Jesus, who became flesh, as John puts it. The Word became flesh and became a temple presence of God here in our midst. He tabernacled among us. When Jesus became flesh, that was a very specific time in history where Yahweh embodied humanity in a way that was different than showing up as
Starting point is 00:09:47 the angel of the Lord. Yeah, or as we said it in the video, in the video we made about this, the angel of Yahweh is Yahweh appearing as a human. The claim of the Gospels is that Jesus is Yahweh, become a human being. So that when in the last book of the Bible, the beginning of John's apocalypse begins with him being transported up into the heavenly temple and he meets a son of Adam who calls himself the beginning and the end, the living one. Those characters merge again. Who was dead and now alive.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Yahweh and Jesus now are one. Yeah, the reason, and then he looks like what the ancient of days is in Daniel chapter 7. Yeah, the white hair and the glowing eyes and all of this. So the biblical apocalypses are about when these characters, usually prophets, are in an altered state of consciousness, they're transported to Eden and they see their Yahweh appearing to them in human form, or they encounter the Divine Council who starts touring them around. And what they are shown is sometimes truths about the cosmos, or truths about the outcome of history, and that allows them to come back into their context
Starting point is 00:11:02 and to speak the Word of the Lord and to name things for what they really are. That clip was from our 2020 Apocalyptic Literature series titled A Walking Talking Apocalypse. You can listen to the entire eight-part series if you want a deeper dive into how apocalyptic literature works. Now, let's add another theme to the mix. A while back, Tim and John talked through the theme of the city in the Bible. God created humanity to live in an abundant garden, but instead humanity built a walled-off city that descends into violence. However, the story of the Bible is about how God will redeem
Starting point is 00:11:46 our cities, promising a future garden city that is, you guessed it, on top of a mountain. We're going to listen in on episode 9 in the City Series where Tim and John discuss two different types of cities. In this clip, we examine Isaiah's hope for a refuge city high up on a mountain where God's blessings flow from. Here's Tim and John. So in Isaiah chapters 13 and 14, we get what are called the oracles against Babylon. And they're remarkable and they would require many podcast episodes just to tour our way through. I just want to tour our way through.
Starting point is 00:12:25 I just want to survey the opening lines. It begins by saying, the oracle of Babylon, which Isaiah, son of Amos, saw. And it echoes exactly the words of chapter two. That's how chapter two began, except the city that he saw in chapter two was Jerusalem. So it's very clearly comparing the passage we just read to this one now. And the opening lines are, on a mountain that has been swept clean, go raise up a banner, lift up a voice to them, wave your hand so that they can enter into the gates of nobles. Somebody's being told to go get up on a high mountain and raise up a banner. The banner would signify...
Starting point is 00:13:14 Ah, well, so this is why this would take many podcast episodes. The banner was identified for you in chapter 11. Okay. And in chapter 11, what you're told is that the future messianic king from the line of David will stand like a banner for all the nations and his place of rest will be divine glory. So you get an image of Jerusalem being ruled by a king who has lifting up a banner and all the nations and the divine glory cloud that rested over the tabernacle will somehow identified with this king resting on top of the mountain. Now you're being told that mountaintop is going to be there with that banner and everybody, you better enter the gate of the city and get
Starting point is 00:14:05 to the top of that hill. Swept clean meaning this is kind of post the day? Yeah. In other words, it's a new start. Yeah. Yeah. A bare mountaintop. Yeah. So every single one of these lines is the words is hyperlinked to earlier parts of Isaiah. Okay. The mountain that is has a signal on it, everybody's coming up to it. So there's a summoning to come up to this city on top of the mountain. Why? Well, a flood's coming. Oh, another flood.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Yeah. I have commanded my holy ones. I have called my warriors for my anger, those who rejoice in my exaltation. It's the sound, the sound of a horde on the mountains, the semblance of a great people, the sound of an uproar of kingdoms, nations being assembled, Yahweh mustering armies, an army of war. Whoa. Hmm. Whoa. They're coming from the distant lands, from the edge of the heavens.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Yahweh and the implements of his anger to bring ruin on all the land. Wail for the day of Yahweh is near. Like devastation from the Almighty it comes. So the conquering armies are on their way. There's a cosmic army coming. the Almighty it comes. So the conquering armies are on their way. There's a cosmic army coming and apparently you want to get up to that high hill and hang out with the king from the line of David in his city.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Is it cosmic army or is it just an army? I mean, it's coming from the edge of heavens, meaning- From the most distant places. Yeah, you look out on the horizon and where the sky meets the land, they're coming from out there. Yeah, from the edges of the cosmos. Yeah. When I say cosmic, I'm just saying this is cosmic poetry.
Starting point is 00:15:53 We're talking about a battle that's going to happen, but we're using cosmic language to describe it. An army on the mountains, the whole kingdoms are roaring. Oh, by the way, all of these languages of the horde and the uproar is language connected with the flood and the coming of a great flood. And so notice how the warriors are being described here in language that in other places, if we could follow the hyperlinks, describes the coming of a great flood. So you're saying this isn't merely a poetic way
Starting point is 00:16:25 to talk about an invading empire. This is something, it's more than that. I'm saying it's using cosmic poetry to describe a great battle that is, we're gonna see exactly what he's talking about in a moment. So what he's gonna go on to talk about is, well, he's gonna continue the cosmic language.
Starting point is 00:16:47 In fact, he's going to talk about how the stars and their constellations will go dark, the sun itself will go dark, all the land will be held accountable for its evil, and you're like, oh, it's the end of the world. Well, for those who participate in evil, yes, yeah, I'll put an end to the arrogance of the proud and I'll bring low the haughtiness of the ruthless. I'll make humans more scarce than gold and humankind more scarce than the gold of Ophir." So what is happening here? Verse 17, I am going to stir up the Medes. That's the Persians?
Starting point is 00:17:26 Against them, yeah. Okay. Persians, yeah. Remember there's an oracle about Babylon. Oh gosh, I totally forgot. This is about Babylon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a great tumult and final battle coming.
Starting point is 00:17:41 And there's only one mountain that's gonna be safe because there's a flood happening down in the valley. And what's the flood? Well, you find out it's the Persian armies. From 17 on, it just describes the downfall of Babylon, which is the beauty of kingdoms, the glory of the Chaldeans' pride will fall to the armies of the Medes. And verse 19, it will be like when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. Okay, so it's another reckoning. It's another reckoning, yeah. And then it goes on to talk about how it'll never be inhabited or lived in ever again.
Starting point is 00:18:16 And then it just itemizes all the scavenging creatures that will take up residence in the ruins of Babylon, like owls and ostriches, shaggy goats will live there, hyenas, jackals. Now, after Persia came and took over though, Babylon, was Babylon done? Was there no city there anymore? Oh, it is interesting. The revolt ended up being not very catastrophic. In other words, it was more of a political coup that ended up happening. But that's even more interesting. There was conflict, but
Starting point is 00:18:50 it didn't destroy the city. The Persians just moved in. Yeah. To the... They were in charge now. Yep, they're in charge now. And then later Persian cities became the capital. But the point is the cosmic rhetoric or language used to describe this. In other words, the cosmic poetry invests these historical events with cosmic heavenly meaning. So what do you mean? What do you mean cosmic heavenly meaning?
Starting point is 00:19:20 The downfall of Babylon to the Persians that happened in 539 BC is when the key events took place, is being described as on analogy to the flood, on analogy to the downfall of Sodom and Gomorrah, on analogy to the exile of Adam and Eve into the land of wild animals and dust and death and desert. So, it's inviting Israelites to view the events of history as a part of a bigger pattern that God is working out in history. That when humans choose folly and they choose violence, that it will ruin them. Yeah, and God hands humans over. And they will be undone by their own evil.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Yeah, that's right. Which will come in the form of an invading army, a flood, a banishment. Yeah, the cities that humans built, because of the consequences of their own murderous evil, like in the city of Cain, actually become the punishment. So Jerusalem has become like a new Sodom and Gomorrah. So what will God do? Hand them over to a bigger, badder version of Sodom and Gomorrah that is Babylon. And then Babylon's version of Sodom and Gomorrah will engulf Jerusalem's Sodom and Gomorrah, and it's this handing over theme. The city becomes both the consequence
Starting point is 00:20:47 and the punishment. So by cosmic you mean not merely what is happening, but why it's happening. Yeah. What the prophets do is they interpret the events of Israel's history from a cosmic or heavenly perspective, from God's point of view. That's what makes it prophetic. So when you say cosmic, you mean from a divine point of view. Yeah, it just means from cosmos, which views all of reality as an ordered whole in some way. So the point is like, well, it's not just that Yahweh was asleep, or that He's less powerful than Marduk, the patron god of Babylon.
Starting point is 00:21:24 It's actually Yahweh who's behind all of these cycles. But at the end of days, like there is an end to this, at the end of days the mountain of the house of Yahweh will become the exalted refuge for all of the nations. You're talking about Isaiah 2. Isaiah chapter 2, yep. Nations will stream to it, there should be peace. Yep. So these become our two cities, the mountain of the house of Yahweh that is like a Zion, and then Babylon that is destined for cosmic ruin. And they kind of, these cities were historical and they were surrounded in the events of history, but their prophetic portraits kind of rise above those ancient historical events and they become images for the later prophets to just describe the whole history of humanity as now a tale of two cities.
Starting point is 00:22:17 The city that God is purpose to build and then the city that God will have to tear down to make way for the city that He wants to turn creation into. And in a way, that is what the rest of the drama of Isaiah is about. That was episode 9 of the City Series titled, Jerusalem, a tale of two cities. Let's move on to our third and final clip. In the mountain series, we looked at how Moses had a successful mountaintop experience with God on Mount Sinai when he offered his own life in exchange for Israel. We marveled at how beautiful it is for a human to sacrifice their life on our behalf. What we didn't spend time talking about is Moses' earlier failure moment at the
Starting point is 00:23:06 exact same mountain. This is the story of the burning bush where God commissions Moses to rescue Israel from slavery and five times Moses objects to God. In the end, God gives Moses a concession that his brother Aaron can speak to Pharaoh on Moses' behalf. And this story becomes the origin story of the priestly line within Israel. In this last clip, we're going to see many biblical themes come together on God's Mountain, the role of the priests, the need for a tabernacle, and how humans and human creativity are gateways to the divine. This clip comes from our series, The Royal Priest, episode 3 titled, Doomed to Fail. Let's listen in.
Starting point is 00:23:54 So, in Exodus chapters 3 and 4, Moses is now married into the family of Jethro, the priest of Midian, and this is where the burning bush scene. So as you work through the story, God essentially makes this commission, tells him to go confront Pharaoh and lead Israel out of Egypt, and Moses objects five times, five objections. And God answers each of those objections in a row, four of them using the phrase, I will be, which this is the story where God reveals His name. His name, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:30 As I will be or I am what I am. It's really cool how the story works. So, you know, his first objection is, well, who am I? I'm nobody. You don't want me to do this job. His second objection is, well, I'm from... And God says, I will be with you. Yeah, and God says, I will be with you. Yeah, and God says, I will be with you. Yeah, Moses says, who am I?
Starting point is 00:24:48 And God's response is, I will be with you. That's who you are. Doesn't matter who you are. Basically, what matters is that you are one that I am with. Second one is, yeah, what's your name? People are going to ask what God I'm representing. So that's the revelation of the divine name. I will be.
Starting point is 00:25:06 I will be what I will be or I am what I am. Then third objection is, well, what if they don't believe me? What if they don't listen to me? So he gives them these multiple signs of like the staff that turns into a snake. This third objection doesn't have an I will be. No, no. Actually, yeah, the five objections are arranged in this cool symmetrical pattern. Yeah, so the center one doesn't have one.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Yeah, it's really cool. The fourth objection is, I'm not a very good speaker. He says, I'm heavy of mouth and heavy of tongue. And what God says is, I will be with your mouth. His fifth objection, he just straight up says, send somebody else. So the real motivator is that Moses just straight up doesn't want to do this. He doesn't want to do it. He's trying to think of all the reasons. Totally.
Starting point is 00:25:51 But in reality he's just like, I'm not. Okay. Now we've talked about this passage in another... Flow to anger. Yeah. This is the first time that God gets angry in the Bible. Yeah. It's the first narrative. Where God is described as angry. If you read from Genesis 1, where God gets angry at somebody.
Starting point is 00:26:07 And so if you go to the next page, this is crucially important because it's this moment that introduces the priesthood into Israel. So it starts in Exodus 4, verse 13. Moses said, please, Lord, send the message by whoever else you will. Send somebody else. And the anger of Yahweh burned against Moses. Lord, send the message by whoever else you will. Send somebody else."
Starting point is 00:26:26 And the anger of Yahweh burned against Moses and he said, "'Isn't there your brother Aaron, the Levite? He speaks well. Moreover, look, he's coming to meet you right now. And when he sees you, he'll be happy. So you speak to him and put words in his mouth, and I will be with your mouth and now with his mouth. I'll teach you what you were to do, but he will speak for you to the people. So this could have been a moment of great honor for Moses.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Moses could be the one directly communicating God's will to Pharaoh. Yeah, yeah. So right now we're getting a little window into that image of God where a human could embody and what that human speaks is the Word of God. I think we talked through this story, maybe in the Image of God podcast episode. But at some point we did talk through this. And basically you explained to me, I think what you're getting at here, which is Moses could have been the one who directly talked to God. Now Aaron is one on Moses's behalf. Mm-hmm. That's right.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Aaron is a priest to Moses. And Aaron happens to be a Levite, which is the tribe that will become. Totally. Now, yeah, why is he called a Levite here? This the tribe that will become. Totally. Now, yeah, why is he called a Levite here? This is the first time Aaron is mentioned right here. Because he's the son of Levi. Well, he's the son of Levi, but this is Moses' brother. Like, Moses doesn't need to know what tribe he belongs to.
Starting point is 00:27:57 It's his brother. Moses is a Levite. So Moses is a Levite too. So certainly what's happening here, we're naming his tribe, because this is the tribe that will play the role of the priesthood. In other words, I'm saying it's a narrative strategy
Starting point is 00:28:12 by calling him Aaron the Levite. The narrator wants to draw attention to this is the foundation of the Levite category of the priesthood. Yeah, that's right. This is like an origin story of sorts. Yeah, the narrator wants us to see this as the origin story of the priesthood. Yeah, that's right. This is like an origin story of sorts. Yeah, the narrator wants us to see this as the origin story of the priesthood and you just have to stop and be like, man, this is not a very glamorous beginning. Yeah. And this is gonna just keep continuing. Seriously, the Hebrew Bible
Starting point is 00:28:38 could not be more critical of Israel's priesthood from its moment of origins and every step through. Yeah, it's a concession out of his anger. Totally, that's right. And what I'm saying is this critical portrait is going to continue with Aaron's failure of the golden calf, with the failure of his sons, the moment they set up the tent in Leviticus, they blow it. And then we're going to meet a descendant of Aaron down the line, a guy named Eli, who allows his two corrupt priestly sons to steal people's offerings. And they're having sex with women like in the courtyards of the tabernacle.
Starting point is 00:29:13 This is the depiction of the Israelite priesthood in the Hebrew Bible. So somebody's got an agenda here to tell us that the ideal that the priesthood is supposed to represent is good, but that the institution of Israel's priesthood from its origin moment never fully attained to that. It was a compromised project from its beginnings. To scholar Joshua Matthews, who first put this on my radar, and he has a book called Melchizedek's Alternative Priestly Order, but he has a whole chapter just on the depiction of the priesthood of the Levites in the Old Testament. He says,
Starting point is 00:29:51 Aaron's first introduction into the narrative of the Pentateuch comes in conjunction with Yahweh's burning anger as a concession for Moses' faithless resistance to Yahweh's instructions. Moses is punished for his unwillingness to accept Yahweh's commission and is likewise denied the honor that would have come with it. The glory of fulfilling the task no longer belonged to Moses alone but was shared in part by his brother Aaron. The author is portraying the scenario as gradually deviating from what Yahweh initially envisaged, or what the ideal scenario
Starting point is 00:30:28 might have been had Moses not responded with such resistance. Which is similar to what the Genesis 2 narrative. That's exactly right. And so the fact that this very conversation with God is happening on a sacred high mountain by a tree burning with the light and life of God's presence. This is a replay of the garden moment.
Starting point is 00:30:53 This is Moses failing his first test, which is to trust God. This seems to me of huge significance. Next step, things get even more complicated with Aaron. As you read on into chapters 3 through 5, what God tells us on page 18, in chapter 3 God says to Moses, he says, you go and gather the elders of Israel and then you with the elders of Israel go to the King of Egypt and say, Yahweh, the God of the Hebrews, met with us, let us go out to worship our God. So, once this thing with Aaron happens, what Moses actually does is he gets the elders of Israel together,
Starting point is 00:31:34 but then he leaves them behind and just he and Aaron go before Pharaoh. Does that make sense? He doesn't obey the command. He doesn't do what God told him to do. God said, go to the King of Egypt with the elders. He leaves the elders behind and just he and Aaron go. And what happens is that Pharaoh gets ticked off and angry and says, like, who are you? You're lazy.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Your people are lazy. And so he imposes, it's the whole thing of like more bricks, less straw, higher quotas, less raw materials. And this meeting where Moses didn't do what God said, he goes with Aaron instead, actually creates more conflict and more suffering for the Israelites. The narrative is designed in an interesting way. Aaron gets introduced and then the first thing Aaron does as a character
Starting point is 00:32:23 is go with Moses before Pharaoh, which is not what God said. And what results? More suffering for the Israelites. Does that make sense? So you've already seen like, okay, Aaron's a concession. Yes. And then you're like, well, great, we got Aaron. Yes. Yeah. And then God says, okay, Aaron and Moses take the elders, go confront Pharaoh. And then God says, okay, Aaron and Moses, take the elders, go confront Pharaoh. And then we watch Aaron, our new hope, like not follow the directions.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Correct. And you're like, huh. I mean, it's just kind of interesting that God says, take the elders and go. And then it just says, and Moses and Aaron went. And you're just like, that's not what God said. And then as a result, is Pharaoh just turns up to heat. That's not what God said. And then as a result, Pharaoh just turns up to heat. That's right. And so when they meet the elders again is when they leave Pharaoh's court and the elders have just gotten their new instructions about more bricks less straw.
Starting point is 00:33:18 And so then there's a conflict. The elders get mad and they're angry at Moses. This first Israelite priestly character. Correct. Aaron the Levite. It's not starting out well. It's not starting well. Okay. That's the point. Yep.
Starting point is 00:33:31 So there's more details to it, but that's just the basic point. So Aaron continues to play this kind of odd role through the story. We'll hear appear at certain moments, but it's always weirdness like this. It just keeps continuing. And so fast fast forward, through the Exodus, 10 plagues, super exciting, God brings the hammer. Moses was put into the waters to die by Pharaoh's order, but God rescues him. And the tenth and final conflict between God and Pharaoh is Pharaoh dies in the waters while the Israelites are rescued.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Led by Moses are rescued through the waters. This big poetic pattern affects the story. It ends the way it began. They go through the wilderness, Moses and the Israelites, and they go to the same mountain where God met Moses at, at the burning bush. And the way God shows up now before the people is not in a tree that's on fire,
Starting point is 00:34:25 it's just the top of the mountain is on fire. Yeah. There's just thunder, lightning, clouds, just fire. So summarizing, Moses is called up and he kind of brokers this covenant partnership ceremony that God wants to get married to these people. And actually, this is important, I don't have it here in the notes. The first thing God says to the people is, I've rescued you out of Egypt, and if you listen to my voice and keep the covenant,
Starting point is 00:34:52 I will make y'all a kingdom of priests. Both rolls together, a set of royal priests. And it's called a collective. So not just priests, a kingdom of priests, a whole nation of kings and queens who stand as the gateway between heaven and earth, between Yahweh and the nations. I mean, that's exalted stuff, man. I would be terrified to apply for that job.
Starting point is 00:35:17 That's a lot of responsibility. Yeah. Yeah, because in all your neighboring people groups, the priests, they all have priests, right? I mean, it's a normal thing. Yeah, that's right. Because they all have their ideas of who God is and how to worship God. And there's this general human sentiment that we need one person to do that on our behalf. And so that category exists.
Starting point is 00:35:49 And God's saying, that category, that's going to be your role as an entire people group. Yeah, that's right. Not just for yourselves, actually for everyone. Yeah, that's right. Even the other priests who think they're doing it. Yeah, that's right. Even the other priests who think they're doing it. Yeah, totally. So, and they're at the foot of the sacred mountain, you know, that's alive with the power and presence of God.
Starting point is 00:36:11 So this is very much a, in the narrative flow, this is a whole group of people being invited into the holy space. Yeah, into a new Eden type of opportunity to become the faithful image of God to the nations that all humanity was made to be but was forfeited to be. So it's a high point. So at the end of chapter 24 of Exodus on page 19, Moses goes up onto the mountain and the cloud is covering the mountain, the glory of Yahweh rested on Sinai.
Starting point is 00:36:42 The cloud covered it for six days, think Genesis 1, six days. And then on the seventh day, Moses goes up into those clouds. He's ascending into heaven. Moses is going up to heaven, metaphorically and literally in terms of the scene. Going to the sky. Yeah, that's right. And the eyes to the eyes of the sons of Israel, the appearance of the glory of Yahweh was like the burning bush that Moses saw, this fire consuming on the mountaintop.
Starting point is 00:37:10 And so Moses goes up into the cloud on the mountain and he was there 40 days and 40 nights. Which 40 days and 40 nights is connected to wandering, right? It's actually, this is one of the first times it appears. Okay. It's often a period of waiting or testing. Waiting or testing. In this case, it's going to be a period where Israel has to trust and they fail the test. So the way Exodus is designed, the narrative action pauses right here and what follows
Starting point is 00:37:40 now is the long divine speech from, it's like seven chapters, of all the tabernacle instructions. Yeah, where a priest will work. Exactly. All right. So this whole long divine speech is divided up into seven speech acts. In other words, the phrase, and God said, appears seven times in these chapters. And the whole of these tabernacle instructions are elaborately crafted in these beautiful symmetrical patterns.
Starting point is 00:38:08 And what they do is highlight comparisons and connections between the different parts. My point here is at the center of the tabernacle instructions is a whole chapter dedicated to describing the clothing of the priest. It's not thrilling reading. No. Most people give up reading the Bible right around here. Yeah, totally. But, dude, this chapter is so important. So, it describes everything from this robe that's to be made. Actually, the introduction and the closing of the priestly garment description in Exodus 28 tells you that these are holy clothes, holy garments.
Starting point is 00:38:45 So, they're garments that are only to be worn when this person is playing the role of the Adam and Eve role in the little micro Eden that is the tabernacle. These are their Adam and Eve clothes, pre-fall, pre-failure, so to speak. Because you're putting on... It's a costume? Yes, it is. It's symbolic sacramental garments. Yeah. They're holy.
Starting point is 00:39:10 So this space is holy because it's space that God has chosen to take up residence here. It's the meeting place of heaven and earth. And these are the clothes that the figure is to wear when they're in the heaven and earth place. And the holy clothes are for glory and beauty. So glory is about, it's a physical manifestation of God's power and weightiness and significance, but they're for beauty. And this is one of the first times beauty is associated with an object in the Bible, is the tabernacle.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Art. Art as a gateway to the transcendent. And then when this is made later, it's an artist. It's an artist, yeah. Who makes it and it's filled with the Spirit. Exactly right. Yeah, just like in Genesis 1 verse 2, the Spirit of God, that work in creation. And this is a little bit of recreation or new creation.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Essentially, you read the description, here's what this figure looks like. They're wearing all white, brilliant shining white clothes, all white linen, and then they're covered with gold and jewels, and then blue and purple, which are signs and colors of royalty. In other words, if you saw the high priest walking around, they would look like a glowing, shimmering, shining figure. And they are wearing clothes that reflect glory and beauty and the divine presence. So you just got to take that in. There's loads of little details here, like some of the stone, the precious jewels, are
Starting point is 00:40:39 exactly the precious jewels that were named in the Garden of Eden in Genesis 2. The onyx stone and there's one more. And they only appear in the whole Bible in the Eden narrative and on the priestly clothing. And then in the Revelation they're referred to, right? Oh, yes, that's right, through this is the new Adam, the new human, who will go in and out of the Eden space through prayer and worship and sacrificial coverings for Israel's sins. This is it. We're doing the thing that we were hoping for from Genesis, a royal priest figure. Someone's getting back in.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Somebody's getting back in. That's right. Adam and Eve were out. Everyone's been out. How do they get back into this blessing? The sherabim are there guarding it, the flaming sword, it's dangerous. How do you get back in? Here we're given a vocation of a priest Here we're given a vocation of a priest and they are symbolically taking on the role. And not merely symbolically, they're doing it. They're doing it, yeah. I think I've heard some scholar talk about play acting, or something, this terminology of like, it's like you're doing a play, but like you're actually doing the thing too.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Yeah, that's right. Our Catholic and Orthodox brothers and sisters are just shaking their heads at you and I right now. It's just going like you guys. It's called a sacramental worldview, and the church has been doing it for 2,000 years. But in the Hebrew Bible, the symbolism's all supposed to be clear. We have at least one person on behalf of the others going back into the Eden space. It's a good start. It's a great start. And so notice, again remember, this is all what Moses is seeing and hearing as he is up in heaven on top of the mountain.
Starting point is 00:42:38 This is just the blueprints. The narrative action is standing still. We're just in this 40-day period. When the narrative picks up in Exodus 32, we meet the person who's supposed to be wearing those clothes when they get made. Did you get it? This is the irony. So just like Moses had his kind of failure on Mount Sinai earlier when he resisted God's call, now here is Aaron's failure at the same mountain. And it's sort of like Aaron doesn't know that he's being given the job of a lifetime up on the mountain. And he's disqualifying himself.
Starting point is 00:43:14 If he just could have waited for 40 days, he would have gotten the job of a lifetime. He did get the job though. Well, that's a good point. And he does do it. But for you, the reader, you're like, this guy's a schmuck. He doesn't deserve this job. He shouldn't be doing this job. And that's because when you jump back to the narrative in Exodus 32, you're at the foot of the mountain while God's showing him all this stuff on top and Aaron... And the story you're referring to is Aaron creating an idol. The golden calf. During the 40 days, while Moses is up in the heavens,
Starting point is 00:43:48 getting the blueprints for the tabernacle and the priestly garments, Aaron, the priest, the first Israel priest, is creating an idol out of Yahweh's likeness. That's right. So once again, you just have to back up and say, That's right. So once again, you just have to back up and say, if the Hebrew Bible is meant to be giving you a pro-priestly point of view, you could not think of a more opposite story to tell. This story is telling you the institution of Israel's priesthood was a failed project from the beginning. Flawed at the heart.
Starting point is 00:44:22 The ideal that is supposed to represent... Is good. Is good. And that's what those clothes are all about, by recalling the Adam, the Adam and Eve returning to Eden. But as soon as you get out of the sky... Totally. The idea of it into the real world... Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Immediately... It's compromised. It's compromised. Totally. Yeah. Highly compromised. Highly compromised. So we can just really fast forward. Once the tabernacle gets built and these clothes get put on, the priesthood gets ordained and inaugurated in the book of Leviticus and his sons on the first day.
Starting point is 00:44:56 This is the guys that die? This is in the book of Leviticus chapter 10. These are Aaron's two sons, Nadav and Avihu. And the temple gets blessed and set up. The priesthood is the first day on the job. And his two sons bring an offering or some kind of, they bring incense. It's cryptic, right? It's cryptic, but the narrator is clear. He says they brought in what God had not commanded them. They did what God had not commanded them to do.
Starting point is 00:45:24 This is a pattern now of priests not doing what God commanded them to do. Yeah, totally. And so then that creates a need for the purification of the Holy Space. They got roasted by divine fire in the tent. And so now their dead bodies are defiling the Holy Space. They got to drag them out with a rope. Yeah, their cousins come and get them. This is the holy space. Yeah, they gotta like drag them out with a rope. Yeah, their cousins come and get them. This is the larger point.
Starting point is 00:45:47 From the beginning, just like the Eden narrative, it tells you here's what humans are made to be or here's what the ideal of what they could be and here's what humans actually are. However, when Moses goes to intercede on behalf of his brother Aaron, who failed in the golden calf, Moses goes up the mountain and he's interceding with God.
Starting point is 00:46:08 And he's offering himself, he offers himself for the sins of his brother. And he also acts as a prophet, where he brings the need of the people before God, and then he's going to speak God's word to the people. And what we're told in the narrative is that Moses starts shining. His face is shining. Not his clothing, but actually him. It's as if Moses, even though he forfeited the priesthood or forfeited that role all the way back at the beginning,
Starting point is 00:46:38 when Aaron got brought into the mix, it's as if Moses can't help but be the thing God called him to be. He ends up being that shining, priestly intercessor in the heavens. Yeah, this is a real high point for Moses. Totally, yeah. But it's in contrast to the failure of the person who was supposed to fill that role, which is his brother, the high priest. Isn't that interesting?
Starting point is 00:47:01 It is. There's a lot of complexity. It is really good, complex storytelling. Yes, yeah. Of just all these twists of expectation. Yes, inversions and so on. Yeah. That was The Royal Priest, episode three, titled Doomed to Fail. If you want to check out the entire series, it's in the archives.
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