BibleProject - What Is Atonement? – Leviticus E2

Episode Date: June 6, 2022

A God who wants nothing more than to dwell with humanity, a way forward to a repaired relationship between Heaven and Earth, atoning sacrifices meant to communicate grace (not punishment)—you’ll f...ind all of this in Leviticus. While the laws governing Israel’s sacrificial system can be some of the most challenging parts of the Bible to read, they’re an integral part of the unfolding story of the Bible. In this episode, Tim and Jon discuss the surprising beauty of sacrifice and atonement in the opening movement of Leviticus.View full show notes from this episode →Timestamps Part one (00:00-8:01)Part two (8:01-17:00)Part three (17:00-46:24)Part four (46:24-1:13:16)Referenced ResourcesThe Temple: Its Symbolism and Meaning Then and Now, Joshua BermanWho Shall Ascend the Mountain of the Lord? A Biblical Theology of the Book of Leviticus, L. Michael MoralesAtonement and the Logic of Resurrection in the Epistle to the Hebrews, David M. MoffittInterested in more? Check out Tim’s library here.You can experience the literary themes and movements we’re tracing on the podcast in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Show Music “Defender (Instrumental)” by TENTS"Pieces (Instrumental)" by I AM FRESH MUSIC"You Can Save Me" by Beautiful Eulogy"The First Day (Instrumental)" by Hear the StoryShow produced by Cooper Peltz. Edited by Dan Gummel and Tyler Bailey. Show notes by Lindsey Ponder. Podcast annotations for the BibleProject app by MacKenzie Buxman and Ashlyn Heise.Powered and distributed by Simplecast.

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Starting point is 00:00:32 God created humanity to be near to Him. In fact, that's how the story of the Bible begins. Adam and Eve walking with God in an abundant garden. But this doesn't last long. Adam and Eve walking with God in an abundant garden. But this doesn't last long. Adam and Eve choose death over life. And God banishes them from his presence. And the story wants to let you know that to go back into God's presence is dangerous.
Starting point is 00:00:57 God stations two spiritual beings called cherubim at the entrance of the garden, and there's a flaming sort of death guarding the way back in. And this should be ringing in our ears when we get to the Book of Leviticus because the tabernacle isn't just a tent, it is a place that mimics Eden. It is a place where God and humanity can dwell together again. But is it safe?
Starting point is 00:01:22 The dangerously good holiness of God is going to stake an outpost in their midst. How do you make things right? Welcome to the Book of Leviticus, answering that question. How do we draw near to God? So Leviticus 1-7 is presented as the thing that will provide the resolution for Israel to be able to enter into and be in God's presence. Now in the ancient world, animal sacrifices were a common way to try to appease a God. But in the Bible, sacrifices are God's gift to humanity, so that we can know how we can come near.
Starting point is 00:01:59 And while reading them can feel kind of strange and even grisly, we're invited to sympathetically enter into these rituals and see what these sacrifices are teaching us. So all these offerings, think of them as each one is little variations on a theme. It's teaching me that to come into greatest or closest proximity to God will mean a utter surrender of life. That is an essence, what these offerings are all about, surrender.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Now we no longer make animal sacrifices, but these offerings are here in the Bible as Torah, instruction, teaching us that the sticks are high, and even though we failed, God wants to create a path back to life. Death is the result of our choices. The wages, the outcome of sin, is death. But God will accept the death of a blameless representative on behalf of sinful people. And that's not fair. But that is God's gift in the form of these offerings. I'm John Collins and you're listening to Bible Project Podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Today Tim McE and I continue discussing the first movement of the scroll of Leviticus looking at the five Tabernacle offerings. Thanks for joining us. Here we go. Hey Tim. John, hello. Hello, hello. Yep. We are in the scroll of Leviticus. It is the third scroll in the Bible, and we are walking through
Starting point is 00:03:25 the whole Torah, which is first five scrolls of the Bible. Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy. Yeah, that's right. And Leviticus is right in the center of that unit of scrolls, and it also has its own symmetry. And in the last episode, we talked about the whole composition of the Torah and how the Torah has five books has kind of this outer frame, Genesis and Deuteronomy. Both of those scrolls end in a really parallel way that sets up their kind of matching nature
Starting point is 00:03:56 as the outer frame. Yeah. So that's the like outer bread of this sandwich. And then the Torah sandwich. The Torah sandwich. It's unleavened bread. It's unleavened bread. It's unleavened bread on the outside. It's the cracker bread.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Yep. And the center is what we call three scrolls, which is one kind of literary structure. It's the center of the Torah. It's the three scrolls. But it's made up of three scrolls. It's made up of three scrolls. Yeah. Exodus, Leviticus and Numbers have a really tight unified narrative sequence and design to them.
Starting point is 00:04:28 It's a one big mega unit that has three scrolls. Yeah. We won't go any further than that. Yeah. Go back, listen to that episode if you want to... If you're into that kind of thing. Be about, be kind about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:39 But what Leviticus is jamming on is how can a people be in proximity to a holy God? And you helped me kind of imagine holiness. Right, can I tweak that just a little bit? Oh yeah, yeah, tweak it. So a little bit more dialed in than that. It's not about people going to be in God's presence. It's that God is so committed
Starting point is 00:05:04 to becoming one with the human family that God has come from the heavens down to earth. We're not going to him. He came to us. Yeah, the crisis of Leviticus, what is jamming on is what should people do? God is here. When God shows up to dwell in our midst. Yeah. Because that is both a great gift, because he's the source of all life,
Starting point is 00:05:27 and it's a crisis. Yeah. Because it is good and dangerous. So what are we gonna do? God has showed up. That's what Leviticus is jamming on. Cool. And the biblical vocabulary is holiness to describe that.
Starting point is 00:05:43 That God is both good and dangerous. That God is the source of all life. He is the transcendent other. That is what it means to be holy. And there is a sense that then we need to be holy in order to be meeting with God in communion. Yeah. And this is all kind of back to Garden of Eden, this fundamental kind of theme, Melody music coming in our ears here that tree of life
Starting point is 00:06:09 The place where God's life and power can become communicated Yeah, to his people. It's a very special sacred place full of abundance and life And so once humans betray God or foolishly break the divine command, they're exiled. And so when God shows up again in the form of a tent, in a tent, in a tent, or you said in the form of a tent, oh, got it. Well, I guess hosted by the sacred tent. For the purpose of God inviting his people to come near him, but we're gonna have to solve some problems. You're gonna have to work out the things that keep people exiled from proximity to God. We're gonna have to overcome those obstacles in some way.
Starting point is 00:06:53 And that's, yeah, the biggest is they have to overcoming those obstacles. And we've already been trained to sense and see the obstacles, what they are, and the solution, what that is. Yes, that's exactly right. We've been trained to see it because it's been repeating. Moses was in God's presence, and Moses goes up on Mount Sinai into God's presence.
Starting point is 00:07:16 But then down below, the people create a false god, say that it's Yahweh, say that it's our deliverer, and it's just blatant, just horrible moment of idolatry, and God is like, this is a problem. This is a big problem. And Moses says, make me the atoning sacrifice. Yeah, I will give up my life as an atoning sacrifice for their sins. Now what that means is what we're going to talk about in this conversation. But it is what he says that I'm going to offer my life
Starting point is 00:07:51 to provide atonement for this thing that you did. But in the narrative, it's what makes God change his plan from destroying the people because of their adultery, to choosing to forgive them and maintain a covenant partnership with them. This is an ancient Bronze Age, Semitic people in the Middle East doing rituals that made perfect sense for that time and place. But for us, 3500 years later, looking back, we're kind of like, what? What's going on? Yeah. But all these rituals are getting at this idea that was very real, which is God is holy,
Starting point is 00:09:01 and we're being invited to be in God's presence. He's come to be with us. We're invited into his presence and we need to alter ourselves and we need to live in a different way. And we need something or someone to like, a tone for us in order for us to be in God's presence. Yep. All of these rituals happening in and around the tabernacle, they have meaning. They're Torah, they are instruction. And it turns out the things that they are teaching is exactly what the rest of the Hebrew Bible is teaching through poetry and through narrative. But here, now it's teaching through ancient ritual symbolism and nothing for it.
Starting point is 00:09:43 We just gotta move towards it. So what I wanna focus on, as think of this part of our conversation, as an introduction to the basic categories of meaning of these sacrifices, the animal sacrifices. So Leviticus 1 through 7 is presented as the thing that will provide the resolution for Israel to be able to enter into
Starting point is 00:10:07 and be in God's presence in a way that is safe and that gives them life instead of destroying them. That's the narrative context of Leviticus 1 through 7. What do you need to do to be in God's presence? Yeah, and so what Leviticus chapters 1 through seven tell us is you need to come to God with a posture of complete and utter humility and self-surrender. That is in essence what these offerings are all about. Surrender. Surrendering.
Starting point is 00:10:40 When you say these offerings in this movement, yeah, in this movement, in this is five offerings. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so let's get to it. So, and here's just a quick list right here. In Leviticus, chapters one, two, three, you get three offerings that often happened in a sequence. Offering is also a religious word. I never say that.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Yeah, we'll talk about it. Okay. But basically, you're giving, you're surrendering something over. We'll talk about it. There's three sacrifices are offering that are listed here. One is called the ascension offering. This is Leviticus chapter one.
Starting point is 00:11:21 It is sometimes translated as the burnt offering. The whole burnt offering. We'll talk about it. The second is called the gift offering, the mincha, sometimes called the cereal or grain offering. That's not an animal. That's your offering food. And then third is what's called the peace offering,
Starting point is 00:11:42 or sometimes translate as the fellowship offering. That's the first three. Okay. Out of those three, only the first is one that is said to provide some kind of atonement that can release gods forgiveness, cover somebody's failure. And then after that come two more. One is called the purification offering, usually translated as the sin offering, and that is said to provide atonement that releases
Starting point is 00:12:05 gods forgiveness. And then the fifth and final one is called the guilt offering, or could be translated as the reparation or restitution offering. And that one also provides atonement for sin. So there's five offerings, four of them are involved animals, and then three of them are said to provide a tonement. That's right. Yeah. So instead of starting out by talking about the word atonement, what here's what I have found is that it's best to get in to the meaning of these from the inside. And walking our way through the description of what it would be like to bring one of these. And what I'm going to invite us to do is to kind of walk through it. We're going to imaginatively walk our way through the five offerings, the offering,
Starting point is 00:12:57 no, not just of the ascension offering, the first one. The first one. And we're going to walk through and kind of offer commentary on each step. Okay. And here, let me just highlight two works that have been so helpful for me. One is by an Israeli Jewish scholar named Joshua Berman who wrote a book back in the early 90s. But it's so good. It's just called the temple. It's symbolism and meaning, then and now. It's a book actually aimed at a modern Jewish reading audience. But if you're a follower of Jesus, you're a part of the Messianic Jewish family, and you're a part of the larger audience of the extended family of Israel. And it is immensely illuminating
Starting point is 00:13:45 because he doesn't work in Christian vocabulary, who works primarily in the vocabulary of this historic Jewish tradition. So illuminating. And then another scholar is a scholar who is a follower of Jesus, Michael Morales, who wrote an amazing theology of Leviticus, called Hushalus and the Mountain of the Lord. If you want to take a deeper dive into everything we're going to do now and the next conversation, those are two great places to start.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Okay. So the first three offerings in Leviticus are the ascension offering, then the gift offering, then the peace offering, and then you get the two purification offerings and then the guilt offering. Well, it's interesting about that list is that they don't reflect the order of the actual liturgies. When you read the narratives of how the liturgies worked, they don't work in that sequence. Like, when you give these offerings in the week or whatever or the day. Yeah, what's cool is just this list reflects their logical priority that the ascension offering is kind of the offering paryxolence.
Starting point is 00:14:56 It's the one in which all the others are variations of that. But in Israel's actual liturgy, here's how the order goes. And you know this by just turning to Leviticus 9, which is the inauguration of the tabard acle. Okay. And they actually do it. Yeah. We watch Aaron and Moses walk up there and they first offer a purification offering.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Then they offer an ascension offering. Then they offer a gift offering. That's only three. That's only three. That's only three. Yeah, that's right. That's the three that are named in Leviticus 9. They forgot a couple. Well, and it's because the other ones,
Starting point is 00:15:33 the guilt offering and the peace offering are about other occasions. Okay. So this is the fundamental liturgy of the offerings. So purification is about repairing a broken relationship, atoning for sins and purifying the relationship from the harm that's been done. That is followed up by the ascension offering, which is about total surrender to God, and the ascension offering is offered along with a gift offering, which is about, as you surrender to God,
Starting point is 00:16:06 you give back to God what God has given to you. So all these offerings, think of them as each one is little variations on a theme, but the goal, there's a story being told about a desire to repair a broken relationship, by surrendering totally in a posture of humility and by gratefully giving back to you. God, what God has given to me in the first place. And that's the story being told. And so if you think about it, even just that right there, what has happened is a rift in the relationship. Israel has given their allegiance to an idol, but God is the dangerously good. Holiness of God is going to stake an outpost in their midst.
Starting point is 00:16:49 How do you make things right? And so these offerings are fundamentally about somehow making right the wrong that's been done, purification, now entering the relationship in a posture of humility and surrender and giving back to God what he's given me in the first place? And that's like, that's what these are about, fundamentally. Yeah. Now, animal sacrifices were common in the ancient world. And here's what I understand. Most commonly, they are trying to appease God. A piece of God who's, you don't know, is he for you or not?
Starting point is 00:17:49 Is what's his mood going to be today? And maybe I can appease him enough to be kind to me today. And there's even a sense of like, I don't know how many sacrifices I'm going to have to make. Maybe I'll even have to like scar myself or maybe you know, it's just kind of like, it can't know how many sacrifices I'm gonna have to make. Maybe I'll even have to like scar myself or maybe, you know, like it's just kind of like, can become pretty gruesome. So that's like the setting. That's what all the neighboring, like, nations are doing. Yeah. They're, they're using that same system in a way.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Yeah. But it seems like it's repurposed. Yeah. Yeah. Similar to the way back to our podcast conversations on biblical cosmology, the biblical authors freely used and adopted creation, imagery, and themes and motifs from the creation narratives of their neighbors,
Starting point is 00:18:41 but they repurposed them, reframed it, and retold the story of creation with those images, of their neighbors, but they repurposed them, reframed it, and retold the story of creation with those images, but in a way that changed or focus their meaning. Yeah. And that's exactly what's happening here. Yeah, the meaning of animal sacrifice and Leviticus, the reason why it's often repulsive and seen as gross or primitive is usually somebody who hasn't yet had the opportunity or taken the time to really sit in the narrative of the Bible and then the meaning of how these offerings are framed in Leviticus. So let's do that. This has been a full reframe for me over the course of the last few years. Cool. So let's just start first with these two words sacrifice and offering.
Starting point is 00:19:26 So this section of Leviticus is often described as the list of sacrifices. What's fascinating is the word sacrifice is that actually not used very much in this section. The word sacrifice is the verb, zavach, and then the noun sacrifice is zevach. And that word actually is only used to describe one of the five offerings. The word that is described, it's sort of like the category title of all five of these is not the word sacrifice. It's the Hebrew word korban, or korban, which means offering. Well, actually, it doesn't even really mean offering. Okay. Here's what it means. So the word Korban, it's from the opening line of Loviticus right here, which is, and God called the Moses from the tent, and then Loviticus When anyone among you brings near a Corban to Yahweh, bring near your Corban in animal,
Starting point is 00:20:31 either from the herd or the flock. So all of these five things that come from animals and also the little pile of grain for the gift offering, they're called Korban. So here's what's interesting about the word Korban is it's the noun form of the verb that is used here, bring near. I'll read the verse again. When any one among you brings near and it's the verb Takribe. I don't know if you can hear the Q, the R and the B in there, takrib. Takrib, korban. So the ta, what's the ta?
Starting point is 00:21:09 Oh, the ta is the second person singular verb conjugation. Second person, you. Yeah, when you bring near ta, so the ta creep. So the ta creep. Yeah, that's right. So creep being the root. The root. That could also be pronounced. Yeah. Corban. That's right. So in other words, this word Corban is the noun of the verb to bring something near. So a Corban is that which is brought near. The thing that comes near.
Starting point is 00:21:45 So all of these offerings, they are called in Hebrew is the thing brought near. When you bring near, the thing brought near. So all five of these are called the things brought near. And it's all about God just landed. Remember, that's the narrative that the witness is jammingming on God just staked an outpost in our in our midst and it's dangerous for us. We wronged. Yeah, we can't go near. We can't go near. But yeah, we're inviting us to come near. Wow. Wow. He's inviting us to come
Starting point is 00:22:21 right in, right up to him here. And what he's inviting us to come right in right up to him here and What he's inviting us to do is to come near with things brought near Things that will bring me near so It's these are these are five ways that one can Re-commun with the God of Israel the vehicles of communion. They're the Corban so calling them offerings You know kind of gets that. We don't have another word. We don't actually, I don't know what English word can work here.
Starting point is 00:22:52 But that's what they're called, the Corban. In a way that's how to interpret this, you are bringing something and you're offering it to God. You're bringing it near. You're bringing it, well, you're bringing it near to offer it to God, right? Yeah, that's right. But it also is a response to an invitation. When I bring this near, it's because God asked me to bring it near because He wants me to come near. Like God wants me to
Starting point is 00:23:15 come into the tent or come near to it. And so He asked me, as He invites me to come near, He asked me to bring a bringing near thing. A bringing near thing. Yeah, totally. A Corban. That's what Corban means. Yeah. You know, we almost named our first son, Corbin. Did you really?
Starting point is 00:23:35 Yeah. Wow. I didn't know that's what this word meant. It was our favorite name. And I actually liked how it sounded Corbin Collins. Oh, yeah. But then someone in the family said, Oh, Corbyn has a nickname.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Oh, man. And we were like, we don't like the nickname Corbyn. And that sounds like an inevitable nickname. So. Yeah, totally. It's pulled the plug. That's funny. Um, we're not funny.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I can't tell. Um, nothing wrong. If you're named Corbyn, that's great. Um, we're not funny. I can't. I can't tell. Um, nothing wrong. If you're named Corby, that's great. No. I just wasn't, wasn't jyton for me. So just to remember, um, the coming near imagery is key to how Leviticus fits into the biblical narrative and the pattern of the Eden story at the beginning. So to come near, this is all about reentry into Eden.
Starting point is 00:24:28 This is about entering. God is inviting people to come back in. And so when in Israelite brought one of these offerings, brought a Corban, you would walk through the little tent fence entrance that takes you into the courtyard, and you would have it like an animal, and you would walk up, and you would be approaching the tabernacle tent. And what you would really see is a huge blue curtain on the entrance with two cherubim in it. But then, if you were approaching it front-on,, it's right in front of it. would be in front of it.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And that altar, on that altar, would be a perpetually burning fire. Okay, so you have a fire, if you're looking perspective-wise, you would be looking forward. And what you see is a doorway into the tent with two cherubim and fire. And you're like, oh, that's what Adam and Eve walked past when they left Eden. In Genesis chapter 3, verse 24, God posted to Cherubim any sword of fire at the door. And so the altar in front of the door of the tent is a symbolic recreation of the door of Eden. And so to come near is about God's inviting us to re-enter Eden. Yeah. And I will bring this as a way to repair the relationship. So that's what this story is about.
Starting point is 00:25:54 It's remarkable. It's pretty cool. It also helps you understand the Canaanable story too. Yes, they're offering. They're offering at that spot. At the door. At the door. At the door of Eden. That's exactly right. Okay. That, they're offering. They're offering at that spot at the door at the door. The door of Eden. Yeah, that's exactly right. Okay, that's the first thing. That's what these are called. So let's say you do want to come near. Yeah. What do you do? Well, Leviticus 1 tells you first you need to select an animal and It needs to be an animal from the herd of the flock and for differing It needs to be an animal from the herd of the flock and for differing subtypes could be a cow, could be a goat, could be a ram. Does a herd refer to... Herde would be cattle, or like cattle, and flock would be like goats or lambs.
Starting point is 00:26:36 But something that is required of any animal offered as sacrifice is that it is tamim, the Hebrew word tamim. It's usually translated when it's applied to animals as unblemished or without blemish. But this is a word that is also used of people in the Bible, and when it's used of people, it's the word translated blameless. And that's the Hebrew word. When this got translated into Greek, in later Jewish history, Greek translators who were Jewish used the word tele-os. Oh, yes. And this is the word Jesus uses in the sermon on the Mount, which is, be tele-os just as
Starting point is 00:27:16 your Heavenly Father is tele-os. Be in there, it's in our New Testament perfect. It's translated as perfect. Without blemish. So this is this is key. In other words, what we're beginning is we're choosing a animal that's going to be my substitute representative before God. Because I'm going to stop at that altar.
Starting point is 00:27:38 I can't go into the tent. It's too powerful. If I'm at normal as real life, this is as far as I go. Yeah, I'll die if I go in there. Yeah. But God will accept as my representative in animal that is tamim. For animals, it means in ideal physical form. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:59 And to be more explicit, like what, they don't have patches of hair gone or they don't have like... Yeah, there's actually a list later in the viticus. Okay. Yeah, and it's like essentially fully functioning. Okay. So no eye damage, no reproductive organ damage, no mouth formations, that kind of thing. So it's a, what do you say?
Starting point is 00:28:21 It's like dog shows. Yeah, totally. Best of show. Perfect. Best of minute. Something like that. Yeah, totally. Best of show. Perfect specimen. Something like that, you know. So, so that's the idea. So the winner of a dog show is Tommy. That's right.
Starting point is 00:28:31 But that Tommy animal is representing this idea of being blameless. It's the same word used for someone's moral integrity. Moral integrity. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So Noah is said to be righteous and Tameem among his generation.
Starting point is 00:28:46 And that's why God delivers him from the generation of the flood. He was Tameem. What were told? He was righteous and Tameem. And he was delivered from death. Well done. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And he walked with God. So you choose an animal that is Tameem. Now we know that Israelites were often tempted to make shortcuts here. And Malachi, the prophet, lays into his generation of Israelites. This is in chapter 1. He describes Israel's priest as showing contempt for God's name. And then when he describes it more, he says, listen, you're offering animals that are blind and lame and that are diseased.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And then he says, try taking that offering to your Persian governor, like Persian governor who rules around here. Would he accept that? So you wouldn't offer it to the Persian governor, but you're gonna bring it to the creator God and like think that he won't notice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:42 That is a disease. Anyway, so it's kind of a classic prophetic scene here. But also, speaking of the return to Eden, this is within the theology of the Psalms. Tommy M. is used to describe someone who can return to Eden. So in Psalm 15, famous, well, I don't know if it's a famous Psalm, it's a well known Psalm if you know the Psalms.
Starting point is 00:30:04 But it begins, Lord, who can dwell in your sacred tent? Oh, yeah. Who can enter the tabernacle? Who can live on your holy mountain? One whose walk is Tameem. Who does what is righteous? Who speaks truth in their heart? And it goes on. They don't take bribes. They don't lend with interest to their neighbor, they do righteousness and justice. Tameem. Tameem. Yeah. So the Tameem one. It's the person you want to live next to. Oh, sure. Yeah. And I think, yeah, ideally, the person you would want to become. Tameem. So Tameem people can come near. Tameem things come near. Things can come near. Yeah. Yeah. But here, a Tommeam person could go walk right into that tent. Wow, it's a high bar. Okay. So that's, you bring a Tommeam animal. It's the first thing. So let's say
Starting point is 00:30:55 you walk up to the fire of the altar and you have your Tommeam animal. And then what you're told is that the worshipper would take their hands and smaach their hands on the head of the animal. It means to press. It's usually translated to lay their hand on the animal. It means to press firmly down. It's clear there's the symbol. And this happens with all the animal offerings.
Starting point is 00:31:22 The offerer presses their hand down on the animal. And the descriptions in Leviticus don't tell you what it means. It's just like, what does it mean? So there's been two main interpretations throughout history. One is that this is a moment where you're offering it, if you're offering it a sacrifice of atonement because you're apologizing, It's essentially a way to say, I'm sorry. And so there's some people who think that this is about transferring your wrongdoing onto the animal. And there's a good reason for thinking that could be what it means. Later in Leviticus on the day of atonement, we're told is the high priest of Israel takes
Starting point is 00:32:02 two Tameem goats and takes one of them and puts both hands on the animal and confesses all the sins of Israel and places them on the goat's head. This is the day of... That's the day of Tommy. That's what it says. It's a 6 chapter 16 verse 21. The priest puts two hands, smocks them on the head, confesses. The double press.
Starting point is 00:32:24 It's double pressed. Yeah, totally. It's the double press confession symbolic placing of sins. And there explicitly he's he and then he announces the sins of Israel or what he yeah, he just says them out loud. Yeah, he says the prayer of confession for the sins of Israel. Got it. So there are many people who think, well, that's what it means on the day of atonement, or at least the laying on of hands is involved in that part. So that's probably what it means here. Okay. Take it by that.
Starting point is 00:32:55 But there's problems. Oh, many problems with that interpretation. Because the laying on of hands is used for sacrifices that are not atonement sacrifices. Oh, so what way are you transferring guilt if it's not in a toning sacrifice? That's right. So the third offering in Leviticus, the peace offering, does not atone for sin. You press that one. And you do the single hand press on that one. Yeah. The other thing is this same word is used to describe rituals where you do it to people.
Starting point is 00:33:27 This is the phrase laying on of hands. It's used even in the New Testament. It's this simple. It's the same ritual right here. So when Moses appoint Joshua as his representative leader, who will take over in his place, he lays his hands on him. When the Israelites commissioned the Levites to work in the tent and around the tabernet on their behalf, they lay their hands on them. So that's one thing, is you do this to animals and people, and you do it to animals that are not
Starting point is 00:33:58 being offered in tonement. And the other thing that's kind of nerdy, but this is significant, is that it seems like the transfer of sin onto the goat in the day of atonement. This happens to the goat that stays alive and to the goat, the goat is exiled out into the world. There's two goats. One's killed. That's right. One's exiled.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Yeah, and the one that's killed is not the one that has the sins confessed over it. And here, this is super important. The goat that is killed and whose blood is brought into the tent is not a symbol of sin. It would actually be contradicting the whole point of the symbol of the tabernacle tree. You're not going to sprinkle sin over over. To take sin into the tent. The whole point is to keep sin outside. And so the goat that bears the sins of Israel, it becomes like a trash, like a garbage truck. Outcast. And you send it outside.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Not into the tent. So the laying out of hands, it doesn't make logical sense. So okay, the day of atonement, which is a different, we haven't gotten there yet, but there's two animals. One is sacrifice, one is sent out. That's the famous scapegoat. That's right. And the one, between those two animals,
Starting point is 00:35:17 one, the sin is confessed over it, and it's the one that goes out. And that's the one that stays alive and the one that is exiled throughout the camp. To get the sin out of the camp. The sin out of here. But another one is sacrificed and it's blood
Starting point is 00:35:32 is still in some sense atoning, it's purifying. That's right. And we'll get there. Okay, we'll get there. But I just want to draw attention to that. So it's more likely that the pressing of the hand on the animal's head means the same thing for the animals that it does when Moses does it to Joshua, or when the Israelites do it to the Levites. It's your appointing a representative.
Starting point is 00:35:57 You're saying, this person is now me. Moses appoints Joshua as a new Moses who takes the people through, Joshua takes the people through the waters of the Jordan. Just like Moses took them through the waters of the sea. New Moses. Does that drive with how the New Testament uses it with laying on a hands? Yeah, you're appointing, yeah, representatives. Paul appointed Timothy as a leader over the church, and that happened through the laying on of hands. It's a commissioning so that you act now
Starting point is 00:36:30 on behalf of those who have appointed you. That's what it means with humans, and that's what it likely means with all these animals. So you're appointing a substitute, you're appointing a representative, yeah, who will go in. So now this animal becomes your blameless representative. Yeah. Who will go in. So now this animal becomes your blameless representative before God. And it's going to get a little, it's going to go even more near to God. But watch what happens when it goes near to God. Okay. So here's the next thing you do. After
Starting point is 00:36:59 you appoint it as your representative, you kill it, where the priest kills it. The animal's throat is slit. And what's interesting is the moment of the animal's death is described in all these rituals, just with usually just one word, Shachat, just to slit the throat. There's not a huge emphasis on how the animal dies, or its throat was slit. And its life is given in the place of the one offering it.
Starting point is 00:37:31 So remember, this animal is not bearing the sins. So in other words, the laying on of hands is this thing is now blameless on my behalf. And it's going to come even nearer to God than I can. So what's the first thing that happens as it even nearer to God than I can. So what's the first thing that happens as it comes nearer to God? Yes, die. But you're saying the death isn't because of the sin because it's blameless.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. The death is for another purpose. Yeah. So in the same way, if an Adam and Eve were to go back into Eden, they would give up their lives. That fiery sword would take them out on their way, on their way in.
Starting point is 00:38:10 So there's a symbol being communicated. It's something very important. There's Torah being given to us here that for humans because of what we have all done here outside of Eden and creating Babylon's and Egypt's end, here outside of Eden and creating Babylon's and Egypt's end. The world that we've created outside of Eden by doing what's good in our own eyes has so estranged us from the character and goodness of God that the only way for us to become fit for God's presence is the surrender of what we call life so that we can enter into the life that is truly life, means a surrendering of life. You surrender the life of a blameless one who will go nearer to God than I could in my current state. Adam and Eve were not Tommy after they... No, left.
Starting point is 00:39:03 That's right. That's right. And so because they were not tummy, they're not blameless, the fire resort, keeping them out, you're saying the logic of that is they go in, they're going to lose their life. Yes. Whatever a fire resort is, it's keeping you out of something. I think pretty budget is simple that you'll die. It's a licey in half. It'll die if you try to go buy it. Now, in the logic of this offering, the going near thing is that though it is tummy,
Starting point is 00:39:38 it is blameless. Yeah. And so a blameless thing can enter. Yep, that's right. You can, yeah. But you're saying even a blameless thing is gonna have to die. Yeah, yeah, it's teaching me that death
Starting point is 00:39:56 is somehow this boundary, yeah, this boundary line that to come into greatest or closest proximity to God will mean an utter surrender of life. Whether I'm blameless or not blameless. Yeah, it is blameless. It represents, well, it represents me and it's blameless, but yeah, it dies. So by representing me, I'm not blameless. Correct.
Starting point is 00:40:22 But it is blameless. It is blameless. So is the idea that a... I'm sorry if this is too... That's okay. Yeah, that's good. No, I think I'm what you're saying, because you're saying, well, if it's Blameless, then it shouldn't have to die. Right. Okay. And it does. Exactly. Yeah. So it's Blameless, and it dies. Because... So this is Torah, it's teaching me something. Noah was blameless and he was saved from death. Yeah, that's right. However, when Noah got off the boat, God said, you know what I know
Starting point is 00:40:55 about humans? They're just going to do this all over again. So what Noah offers is a sacrifice of a tonement. And God sees the death of that Tameem animal, and he accepts it as a representative substitute for a compromised humanity. So I'm with you. I'm just trying to sit with the actual language. Yes, because where I'm so, but um, you're teaching us it. Yeah, think. It's a substitute for me. It represents me in a blameless state. It is blameless.
Starting point is 00:41:31 It is blameless. And it is my representative. And it does on my behalf. A blameless thing that represents me, dying on my behalf. That's right. It's not fair that that thing should die. I see.
Starting point is 00:41:47 It's not fair. That's not fair. That thing shouldn't have to die. That thing should be able to enter. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's blameless. Because now the blameless thing represents me, it is going to die.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Yeah. That's right. It's not fair that Moses should die up there giving his life for sinful people. I see. But God accepted the, even the offer of a blameless life. God didn't even take Moses' life and accepted it, and he accepted that. So, the image communicates its own meaning. God will accept the death of a blameless representative on behalf of sinful people, and that's not fair. But that is God's gift in the form of these offerings. It seems like you are also meditating on just the access to God's life. There is an entering
Starting point is 00:42:30 through death. Yeah. And when you say that, what I was ringing my ears was just Jesus saying, like, you want to follow me? Yeah, that's right. The one who wants to save their life. We'll lose it. But it's the one who will give up their life. Who will find it? That's the one who will find true life. And if you want to follow me, take up your, that's right. Like crucifixion, like death trap device. Yeah. Carry your execution rack and follow me. Death is the way to life. So let's keep going. Because the next part of the ritual will bring us deeper into this
Starting point is 00:43:08 mystery. And this is once the blood is drained from the animal, the priest puts it in some kind of basin or bowl, collects it in some way, and then picks it up and then goes and does something with the blood. And depending on what type of thing has been done wrong or who did it, it's gonna start getting sprinkled on things. So the priest will dip their fingers in the blood
Starting point is 00:43:34 and then maybe sprinkle it on the altar. The altar being the thing that you just set for us animal. Yeah, the animals are going to be burned on. But first it's just now a dead animal with its strength, blood and bowl. And you're standing there and the police priest is sprinkled on the altar. Or let's say it was the whole congregation of Israel, or a king, a ruler that did something wrong is offering it, then the priest takes the blood and goes into
Starting point is 00:44:00 the tent, disappears behind the fire in the cherubium, and start sprinkling it on things inside the holy place. So what's this about? So later in Leviticus, we're going to be told two times over in chapter 17 that the blood of the animal doesn't as such represent death. It represents life. Leviticus 1711, the life of the creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make a ton for yourselves on the altar.
Starting point is 00:44:34 And then a couple verses later, verse 14, because the life of every creature is its blood. This is why I've said to these relights, don't eat blood, because the life of every creature is its blood. So it's very clear, the blood is life. So this blood representing the blameless life of the creature. The life that the creature just lost. Life the creature just lost and gave up for me. It's still present in this blood.
Starting point is 00:45:01 It's still present. It's still alive. That's right. Even though it died, the blood is its life. And you take the life into the tent, and it comes nearer to God's presence than I ever could. And it symbolically comes into contact with God's presence for me. And what I get is forgiveness,
Starting point is 00:45:23 as the the blameless representative goes into the tent on my behalf. Here, I'll just quote this Michael Morales and it's very helpful here. He says on page 130 of his book, while the slaughter ritual signifies death to oneself. So the killing of the animal is like the surrender of the animal's life. It's critical to understand the blood ritual in relationship to life. That is the worshiper's own life. The blood represents the life of a creature, and so through the blood manipulation, sprinkling, the life of the worshipper, which is now identified with the animal through the hand-pressing ritual, the life of the worshipper is brought into contact with the divine. The blood symbolically conveys the offering up of one's life to God.
Starting point is 00:46:15 So through this animal and the surrender of its life, I, through it, get to go into the mix. That is atonement. This is called atonement. So the Hebrew word used for atonement, this. This is called atonement. So the Hebrew word used for atonement, this whole ritual is called atonement. Our English word is actually a compound that you can still see at one mint. Oh really? Yeah. At one mint. The English word atonement in its etymology a tonement in its etymology is referring to the repairing of a relationship between two who were at odds, but now can become at one. The making of two to be at one. That's what's underneath
Starting point is 00:47:36 the word atonement. Not funny, you don't hear that when you look at it as atonement, but when you say at one, you're like, oh, I see it. You get it immediately. That's great. No, that's not quite what the Hebrew word means. Oh. In other words, at one man in English, the two becoming one. Okay. And that, the Hebrew word has a different metaphor underneath it. So the Hebrew word is prepared.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Kipper. Oh, yeah, yeah. On the day of a tonement, yeah, on, yeah, yum, yum. Kipper. Oh, yum, kipper. Yum, kipper. Yeah. I was thinking of the dog of the cartoon. Oh, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:08 It does look like Kipper. Yeah. When you translate it in English. Whatever. There's something there. Yeah. So Kipper. Kipper.
Starting point is 00:48:19 So Kipper means two things. And people debate these. And much of the modern det atonement debates in modern theology is trying to say, is that this word compare gets used in two ways that many people see as different and essentially, I think this is right. I might be wrong here, but there's two ways Capeir gets used. And often, one of the meanings of Capeir gets more emphasized and the other de-emphasized.
Starting point is 00:48:54 But you just follow it right on through, and the word somehow means both two things that for us it's difficult to see how they could be the same thing. One word can mean both these things at the same time, but they're deeply connected. So the first thing First nuance of meaning is a ransom from death Ransom referring to an actual payment That you give to somebody that you've wronged So that you are no longer in their debt. So this compare is connected to the Hebrew noun cofer Which literally means like a payment that you owe somebody that you have wronged. That's a cofer. It's called a cofer
Starting point is 00:49:33 Yeah, so you know some of the famous laws in the Torah about the goring ox You know if your ox gores somebody kill somebody. Yeah. Yeah. So this is Exodus 21. That's running someone over. If you have an ox, yeah, it runs somebody over. It spears them with its horns or something. So if you have an ox and it gores somebody to death. But let's say that it's never done that before. Nobody knew it was a dangerous ox. Your ox escapes. I mean, it tramples somebody. So the ox will be killed, but the owner of the ox
Starting point is 00:50:13 shouldn't have to die. Yeah. But if this ox has threatened somebody before, if it's almost killed somebody a couple times, and the owner just let it roam freely and then it kills somebody then that person needs to be held accountable a life for a life. The owner is liable to the capital punishment but this is Exist 21 to 30 if a cofer is demanded of him, right?
Starting point is 00:50:46 If the family member of the someone who died says, you know what? You owe me. I'm not going to make you die. But you owe me a cofer for, you know, my, whatever, my son's life, the ox, the Lord, I'll take a cofer. Then he shall give the redemption or the cofer of his life, whatever is demanded. So that's what this word means, to ransom from death. So this is one of the main meetings of compare, is that you give this offering, this substitute
Starting point is 00:51:19 life is a... It's a way for you to not die. Yeah, it's a payment. So, and this is a fairly well-known meeting, you know, from like the Apostle Paul names this when he says, the wages of sin is death, you know, in Romans chapter 3. But he's reflecting here on the fact that human... The fact that you're not blameless means that you should die. Well, okay. So here, when you just stayed at like a scientific fact,
Starting point is 00:51:47 so here, we have to live in the story that began with the Eden failure. So humanity was lifted out of the dust and put into proximity of eternal life. Through folly and moral failure, they forfeited that life, exiting the human family and the story into the realm of death. So in this story, death is a result of human failure to trust God, to live by His wisdom and by His word. So in this narrative death
Starting point is 00:52:20 is the result of our choices, and it's about God giving us over, and then enforcing the consequences of our choices, the wages, the outcome of sin is death. So that's currently, I am under a death sentence, and so are you. Yeah, I'm going to return to the dust. Yeah. And that's how the Biblical author see reality. We're all return to the dust. Yeah. And that's how the Bibbiglotharcy reality. We're all dying. I see.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Existence is a descence. Yes. To be human outside of Eden is to be under a descentant. Under the curse. And it's, yeah, from that perspective, it's the most intuitive thing you could imagine. Sure. Because I'm dying and so are you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:02 And why are we dying? Yeah. God is letting us die. Our violence and sorry you. Okay. And why are we dying? Yeah, God is letting us die. Our violence and folly. Yep, look around. However, God has given the life of this creature made it available as a substitute. And if it's life, blameless life, which is allowed because a blameless thing can go in,
Starting point is 00:53:24 surrenders its life on my behalf and God will accept that life as a co-fer. Now when they did this, they weren't expecting to live forever. This isn't some like fountain of youth. Like exercise. That's true. They're very well aware that like this. I'm gonna die still. Yeah. But in a sense, what they're realizing is I can still be in God's presence. So I'm like re-entering Eden, even though I shouldn't be here. Yeah, because we want to keep playing host to the God of Israel. And if he's an armist, he'll rescue us from death.
Starting point is 00:53:57 He rescues us from our enemies. He'll provide mana for us. So God's presence is life. And so we want to keep that source of life around us. And so he has given us these creatures as a way to pay him back for the ways that we wrong him even though he's living in our midst. So first main meaning. But here's what's interesting is that meaning. But here's what's interesting is that this word atone or compare is also used not of people but of things. So the day that the tabernacle gets inaugurated, this is Leviticus chapter 8, Moses takes a bowl, he slaughters it, he takes its blood, puts his finger in some of it, and then he puts it on the horns of the altar.
Starting point is 00:54:48 He's sprinkling the blood. Sprinkle on the body of the altar, and what we're told is it purifies the altar. Then he pours the rest of the blood at the base of the altar and makes it holy and makes atonement for it. Atonement for the altar. Yeah. That's the word. It's the same word, compare. So the ransom doesn't really work here. The altar doesn't owe its life in any month or so. The altar doesn't owe its life, yeah, yeah. And what you're told in terms of the literary design of this sentence, he puts the blood on the horns of the altar and purifies the altar. Then he pours out the blood at the base of the altar, he makes a tonement for the altar. In other words, a tonement is in parallel to purify. Yeah. And this happens
Starting point is 00:55:37 too on the day of a tonement, when the blood of the blameless goat, not the one that got sins put on it, that one went out outside the camp, but the goat that is blameless goat, not the one that got sins put on it. That one went out outside the camp, but the goat that is blameless and then... Presumably dies. And dies, and then his blood is taken, not just inside... Sorry, the one that goes outside the camp presumably dies. It'll die one day. But that's not the point. The point is getting cast out. The point is exile. That's the goat with the sins on it.
Starting point is 00:56:02 The goat that is blameless that represents righteousness and blameless, that one is killed. They do the double press. Nope. Oh, well, it doesn't say. Oh, I thought this animal got the double press. The double press and the confession of sins was on the goat. Oh, they get sent out. That's right.
Starting point is 00:56:21 They get sent out. I got to mix it up. That's right. That one gets out. That's right. The one that gets exiled gets the double press confession of sense. Yeah. The one that gets the single press representative commissioned as a representative, that one is killed. It's blood is taken not just to the altar and not just inside the tent, but into the Holy of Holies. And here's what we're told about that goat's blood. The high priest, when he takes the blood, he will sprinkle it on the atonement lid.
Starting point is 00:56:53 It's called a caporate, the place of atonement. And he will make atonement for the holy place. Because of the impurities of the sons of Israel, because of their transgressions in regard to all their sins, this is what he will do for the tent of meeting, which lives in the middle of them and in the middle of their impurities. So here, we're in a different narrative, well, an overlapping narrative, and the narrative is sin is like pollution and vandalism. It both puts me in God's debt, because I'm wronging other people, but sin and evil, moral
Starting point is 00:57:37 evil, is like a wrong against creation itself. It pollutes creation. It fills it with pain and violence and the blood of the innocent spilled on the ground. And so here is, it's like the furniture of the tabernacle is slowly building up piles and marks of vandalism throughout the year. And one day a year, all of it gets washed away. And so all of this metaphorical imagery about the washing with the blood, it comes from this meaning here. Oh, and like New Testament authors say,
Starting point is 00:58:16 Jesus blood washes away sins. Yeah, it's the word purifying. I see. Yeah. Which is the word atonement. It's the word atonement. Yeah, so but it's a different Aspect of atonement. Yeah, it's two different aspects. Yeah, at least the word the meaning of the word Yeah, it gets used in two ways one is ransom. Yeah to pay a debt
Starting point is 00:58:39 The other is to wash something that has been made dirty and impure. It makes dirty things pure. And dirty, not just in the sense of cleanliness, but here we're in another key symbolic way of the biblical author, see the world that'll connect with stuff going on later in the book of Leviticus, but impurity is a state of being that's similar like we would call being sick. It's being in a state of death or nearness to death.
Starting point is 00:59:15 And it's connected to things like skin disease or losing bodily fluids or touching blood or dead bodies. These are all ways you become impure, ritually. But Israel's moral failings and injustice and oppression actually slowly begins to pollute and vandalize the temple in their midst. And if that builds up too much, God's just gonna say, I'm out of here.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Like, you were throwing trash in my living room. It's the same idea of like the flood washing creations. Yes, yes, that's exactly right. Like, so there's this biblical logic of when humans are violent against other humans. Like I slaughter a fellow human, fellow image bear of God. They're blood. There's actually, the Bible talks about the blood soaking into the ground,
Starting point is 01:00:10 and the ground itself is now defiled. And there was so much violence. Yes. So much blood being shed, so much just horrible violence that God washed it away with the flood. Yeah. He allows creation to, as if creation rebells against human evil. Yeah. And God allows the order that he placed on creation to recede and the waters become a purifying agent. The wash is clean. Yeah. When the waters become a purifying agent that washes clean. And when the waters are the purifying agent that washes clean, you're going with them.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Yeah, you die. That's right. But when the blood is a purifying agent, you stay alive because the blood is of an animal that's blameless, that God will accept as a substitute for me, the blood is of an animal that's blameless that God will accept as a substitute for me, the who is not blameless. So the blood can purify the land, purify creation that I've defiled through my violence, our violence.
Starting point is 01:01:23 And it's such a weird, it's a hard mental space to be in, to think about that my corruption, our collective corruption, is creating an environment that needs to be reckoned with. The biblical imagination was a flood, washing it clean. Yeah, here's the thing though, it's not that hard to imagine in one sense. Okay. I mean, I know that climate change is hugely politicized issue. So let's just keep it local. But if through human greed, like the sewage plant is poorly run and has an negligent manager. Those moral failings will start to
Starting point is 01:02:11 result in the malfunction of the sewage plant that will start to spill sewage into the local streams and so on. And that's very similar to what's happening here. Human moral failings actually degrade the environment such that creation and will rebel against us and destroy us. And God will let it as a natural course of action and consequence. So the same word, compare, is used to describe that the purifying of the land of the way that we're corrupting it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:52 In a way that protects me because the flood, the waters will purify it but will destroy me. Yeah. This will purify it but also protect me. That's exactly right. And so you pair that with the same logic of this word compare, meaning a blameless, one thing, experiencing death on my behalf to protect me. Yeah, both are protecting me from death. Correct. But one through this idea of purifying and one through the idea of
Starting point is 01:03:25 payment being a payment. That's right. And the payment and the purifying, you could say they're different metaphorical. Remember all the way back to our conversations years ago on metaphorical schemes. The word compare has two different stories underneath its meaning, but the both overlap.
Starting point is 01:03:43 And one is about, I've wronged you and I owe you now I offer this as a payment To make right what has been done wrong The other metaphorical story is I've wronged you and that has polluted the environment of our relationship Such that this environment is... Yeah, just being in your presence is like triggering me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Kind of thing. Yeah, so the life of this animal will clear the air. Yeah. It's... Okay. And they're overlapping. The whole point is that these are not separate. The biblical authors had one word to refer to both of these things. And we find them difficult.
Starting point is 01:04:26 And I think our modern atonement debates are a reflection of my inability to sympathetically enter into the imagination of the biblical authors. And so the blood purifies and the blood repays. And that is what the word compare. When the New Testament authors talk about the blood purifying, wash me in the blood repays. And that is what the word compare. When the New Testament authors talk about the blood purifying, wash me in the blood, it's about me, not the environment. Uh, sometimes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:54 But in Hebrews, in Hebrews, the act of atonement, the Jesus accomplishes, is not primarily when he dies. It's when he ascends into the heavenly temple and presents his blameless life, and I blood, into the heavenly temple before the Father. That's the moment of atonement in Hebrews. Yeah, there's a work of a New Testament scholar David Moffett wrote an important work called, I think, Resurrection and the Logic of Atonement in the letter to the Hebrews.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Thrilling. Thrilling, but no, I learned so much. But what's interesting is primarily we think of atonement in the New Testament is happening when Jesus dies in one element, that's true. But even in this ritual here in Leviticus, atonement happens not with the animal's death. Yeah, with the animal's life being brought into. It's about when the life's exactly. Yeah, it's about.
Starting point is 01:05:51 So that's what Hebrews is written on. Hebrews, yeah. Jesus's life is brought up into the holy place and becomes the atonement. And that's purifying the environment, the creation, in a way that's not going to take my life. That's right. Let me tie this up with another quote from Michael Morales here. He summarizes it this way. He says, the blood served as a purging agent, a purifying agent.
Starting point is 01:06:20 Think of it like a detergent, almost. Okay. Yeah. So the blood served as a purging agent purifying the sacred objects from the pollution of the Israelite worshippers sin wiping away that sin from God's eyes. Because this is the stuff right near God's presence. Yeah. Both ransom from death and purification from pollution are tied to the underlying logic that the blood is life. It's a life that is ransom from death, and it's a life that wipes away the stain of death. The basic point that an utterly blameless life can obliterate death is the rationale underlying
Starting point is 01:07:04 the sacrifices of Atonement. See that last sentence here. So the basic point is that in utter a blameless life offered on my behalf can obliterate death by repaying what I owe and by purifying the effects of sin and death. And that's the rationale that underlies the sacrifices of atonement. And so this leads to just a final note and to me this is actually the most important one back to the one explanation of atonement given in Leviticus.
Starting point is 01:07:36 It's where in Leviticus 17-11 God says the life of a creature is in the blood and I God says I have given it to you to make a ton of it for yourselves on the altar. That's interesting because you would think the person's bringing it to God. Yes, you would think what it says that the life of the creature is in the blood, so you have to give it to me. Give me the blood. And the opposite of what God says.
Starting point is 01:08:02 And you're paying attention to exactly the, remember how you began this conversation? Like the way most people think about offering animal sacrifices is to buy God's favor. Yeah. And this is saying that a tonement in the Bible is the opposite. It's a gift.
Starting point is 01:08:18 It's a gift from God to us. Oh wow. I'm giving you the way to become right with me. Yeah. Well, and then John 316. Yeah. God, God, love the world. He gave. That's exactly right. He gave his son. That's right. So, yeah, I think for a lot of years, I have a, I have such a huge stack of books on atonement in my library. And I really tried to figure out the atonement debates, and this is raging topic, theological studies. And I decided at some point to just kind of let that debate sit, because the categories
Starting point is 01:08:55 of the debate were capturing my imagination. And then all I could do was read Leviticus in light of the debate. And so for me, what I'm... Now you're trying to read the debate in light of Leviticus. Trying to read the debate in light of understanding the deep logic of a tonement just within the biblical story. And which as I know what the debates are about, but I just, I had to put the debate aside and just inhabit the story and do lots of deep word studies.
Starting point is 01:09:20 And it's completely shaped my, my reshaped, how I think about the whole thing. It's beautiful. The book is like, is really thought of this as beautiful. Even though it involved the death of a very valuable animal, they viewed it as an act of God's grace. Like they approached the tent and experienced God's grace. They didn't see it as whatever else you might, you know, appeasing a God who's about to hammer me.
Starting point is 01:09:52 They saw it as a gift of God that he wants me to come near and he's given it to me. Yes. And if that doesn't happen, I will die. That's right. They totally, I will die. That's right. Totally. I will die. That's right. So it is saving me from death. It saves me from death. That's right. Yeah. But the death that I will experience and how,
Starting point is 01:10:18 what death means, means what it means in light of the story that began with the Garden of Eden. That means what it means in light of the story that began with the Garden of Eden. And what we often do is abstract it out into some new story that we make up, which is God is perfect. You're not perfect. So God has to kill you because you're not perfect. But he'll kill something. You can kill something in your place and then God will accept you. And you can see like the elements
Starting point is 01:10:46 of what the Bible saying are there. But when you abstract it and shorten it to that little formulation, you're just really missing, I think, the richness of what the story is saying. It's like that little summary that I just gave is not that it's entirely wrong. It's like that little summary that I just gave is not, it's not that it's entirely wrong. It's just, it's a remade narrative that I don't think is emphasizing what the biblical authors are trying to emphasize. And this last point, God makes perfectly clear, this is my gift to you. It's not about you trying to appease me. It's I've given you away.
Starting point is 01:11:21 And dude, okay, I'm so sorry. But here, let me just, this is a part of how the Hebrew Bible is Messianic literature. Because this is in the same collection of scrolls that has the suffering servant of Isaiah that talks about God's servant who will give his life as a sacrifice of atonement for the sins of Israel. And therefore for all humanity. So this section of Leviticus is trying to give us the categories that will prepare us for the Messianic Hope of the Suffering Servant, who is God's gift to humans. Thanks for listening to this episode of Bible Project Podcast. Next week, we're concluding the first movements of Leviticus looking closer at the offerings.
Starting point is 01:12:07 The more I've learned about these offerings, the more I see that their meaning is working on themes that are developed all throughout the rest of the Bible. Self-surrender, purification from sin, making right, loving God, loving your neighbor, thanking God for what he's given to me. That's the meaning of all these offerings. These are ideas deep in the heart of the biblical story that comes out everywhere. Today's show was produced by Cooper Peltz and edited by Dan Gummel and Tyler Bailey. Our show notes by Lindsay Ponder. Also, Ashlyn Heiss and Hannah Wu provide the annotations for our annotated podcast in the app.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Bible Project is a crowdfunded nonprofit. We exist to experience the Bible as a unified story that leads to Jesus. Everything that we make is free because of the generous support of thousands of people just like you. So thank you for being a part of this with us. Alright, I think we're recording. Here we go. G'day, this is Chad and I'm from South Australia.
Starting point is 01:13:02 I first heard about Bible Project in 2018 when I was helping our church read through the Bible in a year. My favourite thing about a Bible project is their commitment to presenting the Bible's big picture story in an approachable and meaningful manner. We believe the Bible is a unified story that leads to Jesus, where a crowd-funded project by people like me. Find free videos, study notes, podcasts, classes, and more at BibleProject.com. Alright, thanks, fellas. you

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