BibleProject - What Made the Tribe of Levi Special? – Numbers E1

Episode Date: August 1, 2022

The scroll of Numbers can be difficult to make sense of without context, and there’s a reason for that. The scroll was never meant to be understood on its own. Numbers picks up where Leviticus leave...s off and mirrors the scroll on the other side of Leviticus (Exodus). To fully understand all of these scrolls, we need to read them together. Join Tim and Jon as they dive into Numbers, trace the theme of the temple, and discuss the unique role of the tribe of Levi.View full show notes from this episode →Timestamps Part one (00:00-22:02)Part two (22:02-40:55)Part three (40:55-58:55)Referenced Resources“Large Numbers in the Old Testament,” J. W. Wenham“A Defense of the Hyperbolic Interpretation of Large Numbers in the Old Testament,” David M. FoutsThe Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society (JETS)Interested in more? Check out Tim’s library here.You can experience the literary themes and movements we’re tracing on the podcast in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Show Music “Defender (Instrumental)” by TENTS"Library Card" by Sleepy Fish"Portland Synth Cruise" by Sam StewartShow produced by Cooper Peltz. Edited by Dan Gummel, Tyler Bailey, and Frank Garza. Show notes by Lindsey Ponder. Podcast annotations for the BibleProject app by MacKenzie Buxman.Powered and distributed by Simplecast.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, this is Cooper at Bible Project. I produce the podcast in Classroom. We've been exploring a theme called the City, and it's a pretty big theme. So we decided to do two separate Q and R episodes about it. We're currently taking questions for the second Q and R and we'd love to hear from you. Just record your question by July 21st
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Starting point is 00:00:37 Welcome to the Scroll of Numbers. Or as it's called in Hebrew, through the wilderness. We just got through the book of Leviticus, where Israel is camped at the foot of Mount Sinai for an entire year. They're ready to pack up and go through the wilderness into the Promised Land. Many of the stories and the places and the plots that we're gonna find in the book of numbers mirror
Starting point is 00:00:59 the stories we found in the book of Exodus. And that's because Israel has already gone through the wilderness when they left Egypt on their way to Mount Sinai. In fact, what we find here is that the Torah is one large chiasm with the book of Leviticus right at the center. Leviticus is at the heart, and then the two scrolls on either side, Exodus numbers match each other.
Starting point is 00:01:24 There's a liberation from slavery in Exodus, and then through the wilderness to Mount Sinai. And then in numbers, we go and reverse. They leave Mount Sinai, go through the wilderness, on the way to Moab. And when they get to Moab, there is a great deliverance from a foreign king who wants to bring curse and death on them, who's like Pharaoh. At the beginning of Numbers, we get an explanation of how Israel's camp is to be set up, with the tribe of Levi standing between Yahweh and the Tabernacle and Israel. And then God commissions the tribe of Levi to be the priests and assistants of the Tabernacle.
Starting point is 00:02:02 And he says, look, I have chosen the Levites from among Israel to serve as substitutes for all the first-born sons of the people of Israel. The selection of one tribe out of the many swapped out for the firstborn. What that means is that this tribe is now the extra special tribe that's in the slot of the Passover Lamb. Being the firstborn is about being uniquely responsible,
Starting point is 00:02:26 an extra layer of responsibility and representation of the Father, the Levites as a clan of our put into that place. And so as we get into all these details of how Israel is organized and the role of the Levites, it's important to remember the entire biblical story, how God called all humanity to live in proximity with him.
Starting point is 00:02:48 And so this is all mapping back on to the Garden of Eden, out of the dust of the land. God forms one unique, priestly representative pair. They get to be closer to the presence of Yahweh than anybody else. But it's dangerous. And that's what Leviticus taught us many times over. The Yahweh's presence is both good and sustains our life and it's dangerous and can end our lives. So as Israel gets to leave and go to the promised land, we feel the anticipation, but we also sense the looming danger. This tribe is going to royally fail. They're being set up as Adam and Eve, royal priests lot, and you're like, oh great, what could go wrong?
Starting point is 00:03:27 And then everything's gonna go wrong. And it's specifically Levites who are highlighted in the number scroll as really blowing at big time, many times over. So, let's take a journey into the wilderness. Thanks for joining us. Here we go. [♪ Music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background We are, we are, we're leaving Mount Sinai and going into the wilderness. Yep.
Starting point is 00:04:07 This is the scroll of numbers, which is an unfortunate name. Yeah. Yes, we are taking along like most of this year to walk our way through the Torah that corresponds to a whole set of reading experiences that we've created for the Bible Project app. And so these match that. So we are waving goodbye to Leviticus, and we are saying hello to Numbers. But your question was about the name. We didn't have a question. You had a comment about that. So the name of this scroll numbers comes from the Greek translation version of it that was made in the late second temple period, or I guess middle second temple period, around the 200s BC. So in Debrit
Starting point is 00:05:00 tradition, this scroll is named Bommid Baud, which means in the wilderness, which is both a more catchy title and- I'm gonna get you in the right mindset. Yeah, it uses the place to- this whole book is gonna take place in the wilderness and, in fact, in the phrase, in the wilderness is the one, two, three, four, fifth word of the scroll. The opening words are, and Yahweh spoke to Moses in the wilderness. Bommid Bar. In the wilderness is a more accurate title, because the whole story takes place in the wilderness. Numbers is just paying attention to something that happens in the book at a couple
Starting point is 00:05:39 points, namely that there's a census numbering of the Israelites that happens in chapter 1 and then again in 26. And those are important for the structural flow of the book, but they don't summarize everything what's going on. So I vote for it in the wilderness. I go behind that. Now, this isn't the first time we've met Israel in the wilderness. No, it's not. That's exactly right. They have gone through the wilderness. They rescue from Egypt,
Starting point is 00:06:08 they go through the wilderness to Mount Sinai. Yeah. And there's a bunch of stories of them in the wilderness in the Exodus scroll. Yeah, that's right. And then they camp out at Mount Sinai and they get the Tabernacle Blueprints and then the book of Exodus ends with the Tabernacle built.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Then we ride through the book of Leviticus, where they're still at Sinai, and they're getting just more information about how to do the rituals with the Tabernacle. And how to become the set apart, holy nation, that the kingdom of priests, for God, that's what Leviticus is. And so now they're gonna pack up and they're heading towards the Promised Land, so they're gonna go through the wilderness again. That's what Leviticus is. Yeah, and so now they're gonna pack up and they're heading towards the promised land.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Yeah, so they're gonna go through the wilderness again. That's right. Yeah, and so that actually on the macro level since we're kind of at a hinge between two scrolls of the Torah. Let's just back out real quick and get a macro view of the story. So the Torah is a five-scroll collection that's one of the first main parts of the Hebrew Bible. The Torah itself is like a unit of the Bible. Yeah, it's a big literary unit. Now the narrative at the end of the Torah just continues right into the next scroll, Joshua that comes after, I mean, without a hitch.
Starting point is 00:07:22 But there is a meaningful conclusion at the end of the fifth book of the Torah that draws the story of Moses to a close before you transition to the next generation. So it is a meaningful five-scroll prologue to the whole Hebrew Bible. No one argues this. Everyone calls it the Torah. Yeah, that's right. Well, it's just interesting because it's a fluid narrative from Genesis into Deuteronomy and then right on into the next scroll after it. So the narrative is cohesive on through Joshua
Starting point is 00:07:53 Judges Samuel and Kings. But there's a very clear clues that the story of Moses marks a milestone moment and there's a literary closure at the end of Deuteronomy. So you've got the Torah and then after that you've got the prophets and the prophets have two big parts. The first is the narrative prophets, Joshua Judges Samuel King. Sometimes called the former prophets. Former prophets, that's right. And that continues the narrative of Israel entering into the land after Moses's death and
Starting point is 00:08:21 then their Babylonian exile. Then you get the four scrolls of the latter prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and the scroll of the twelve prophets. Yeah, which are all the the strange names. I guess they're all strange names. The strangeest of the names. They're wonderful Hebrew names. They're wonderful. Yeah, that's right. And so that eight scroll collection They're wonderful. Yeah, that's right. And so that eight scroll collection of Joshua Judger Samuel Kings, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and the scroll of the 12 makes up the center of the Hebrew Bible. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:53 And then after that, in my English Bible, that's broken up. Yeah, that's right. Our English, modern English Bibles have adopted a different ordering system altogether. That is helpful in one way and helps communicate certain things about the shape and message of the Hebrew Bible, but it's not the original shape. So you're talking about the original shape of the Hebrew Bible. As a collection. As a collection. Yeah. Tora and then the prophets, form prophets and ladder prophets. That's right. And then lastly come the writings, which in medieval manuscripts have a variety of orders, but there's actually less overall variety. And actually there are clues of the intentional design of the writings to begin with the
Starting point is 00:09:38 book of Psalms. And the Psalms have a five-part structure matching the five-part structure of the Torah on the other side of the prophets. So the Hebrew Bible is a gigantic symmetry of the five scrolls of the Torah, the former prophets, the latter prophets, and then the writings begins with another five-part mega scroll. Jesus refers to that collection as the Psalms. Yeah, Jesus refers to the Hebrew Bible as the Torah of Moses, the prophets, and the Psalms. Yeah. Referring to that third section.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Yeah, so that's the mega collection. When we zoom into the Torah, what we see as the Torah is designed as a gigantic symmetrical composition. There's five scrolls, and the scrolls on the outer ends, Genesis and Deuteronomy match as bookends, or in, I guess, in your imagery, they're like the two loaves of bread in the sandwich. And both of them come to a climax with a great Patriarch in Genesis, it's Jacob, on his
Starting point is 00:10:40 deathbed, and in Deuteronomy, it's Moses on on his deathbed and they both invite all of Israel to gather around them and they say, let me tell you what will happen in the end of days, Biaxhariat Hayamim, and then Jacob utters this long poem addressing each of the 12 sons that will become the 12 tribes. Moses sings a long poem that addresses each of the twelve tribes, and then also forecasts the whole history of the prophets that you're about to read. So Moses becomes the prophet of all prophets, announcing everything, telling you beforehand everything that you're about to go read in the prophets. So those are bookends. And then in the center of the Torah are three scrolls, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers.
Starting point is 00:11:27 And Leviticus is at the heart. And then the two scrolls on either side, Exodus, Numbers match each other. And you already paid attention to it. That there's a liberation from slavery in Exodus. And then through the wilderness to Mount Sinai. They're at Mount Sinai for Leviticus. And then in Numbers, we go in reverse. Through the wilderness. Yeah, they leave Mount Sinai, go through the wilderness on the way to Moab. And when they get to Moab, there is a great deliverance from a foreign king who wants to
Starting point is 00:11:58 bring curse and death on them, who's like Pharaoh in the beginning. So there's a great deliverance from a foreign power that wants to curse and bring death. And so Pharaoh and a guy named Balak, the King of Moab are a very parallel. So the whole Torah is a gigantic, kiosk, kiasm or symmetry. Yeah. And it's not just cool art. There's an important message at work there. I just dumped like 10 things on the table that we could talk about, I guess. No, we should keep moving because we've got to get into numbers. So you said, yeah, that's the big picture. Big picture.
Starting point is 00:12:35 So now we see how numbers are situated in the whole Hebrew Bible and in the Torah. And it's the back end of this kind of central part of the Torah, where Israel comes out of Egypt through the wilderness, two-mount Sinai. That's where we've been with them, and now they're going to go back through the wilderness, new liberation, into the Promised Land. Yeah, now just real quick, because maybe we'll talk about this in a few conversations when we get the middle of numbers. But the design of numbers is very, when you're reading through it, it feels like a hodgepodge of stories and laws. That's how the whole tour sort of feels. But numbers really, really feels that way.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Like if you were already feeling that way, and Exodus and Leviticus did numbers, is just what is going on? So that parallelism between Exodus and the wilderness journeys and the numbers in the wilderness journeys is really significant. So this will mean more by the time our conversations get to the wilderness journeys, but both wilderness journeys have Israel complaining for lack of water. God provides water from Iraq. They complain for lack of food, flesh, meat, and God provides quail and mana.
Starting point is 00:13:50 There's a battle with one of their relatives called Amalek. Moses is exhausted and doesn't want to lead the people anymore. His father-in-law, Jethro, appears in both stories and there are songs that the people sing. Poems, that they sing when they're in the wilderness. It's true meditation literature style, the design of the Torah. And so, numbers actually doesn't make sense on its own as a scroll. You can't read it independently of the Torah, because everything that is doing is picking up things on the other side of Leviticus and
Starting point is 00:14:27 matching things in Exodus. And to really get what numbers is doing, you always need to read the matching narratives in Exodus to see the important differences and similarities. That's what you mean by meditation literature. Yeah, you get to one part of the Bible and you can read it on its own, but the real magic happens when you read it in relationship with all its corresponding narratives. Yeah, exactly. Yep, that's right.
Starting point is 00:14:54 And so you're saying that just to restate what you said, because I think it's important, a lot of these narratives happen in a very similar way in Exodus. Yeah. And they have mirror counterparts. Mirror counterparts. On the other side of Mount Sinai, the backwards. But on the other side of Mount Sinai, now we've read through God coming to live with them, being set apart as holy, the purity laws, the like the day of Atonement, all that stuff is now in our mind. Yes. And now we're asked to reflect back again on very similar stories of guests and grumbling
Starting point is 00:15:33 and wandering. Yeah. And the author of this section of the story assumes the reader has fully internalized everything up to this point. And so there's going to be a lot of assumptions made on the part of the reader has fully internalized everything up to this point. And so there's going to be a lot of assumptions made on the part of the reader to be able to track with hyperlinks to earlier parts of the Torah. So I'll do my best as we talk through to point out where there's a meaningful link backwards. That's what makes the Bible so hard to read. Exactly right. Is that the authors are expecting a lot of you?
Starting point is 00:16:07 It's a high demand kind of literature. It's the farther you get into it. I really like stories where they're just like, I was laying it all out. Dude, you're an explainer. I'm an explainer. Your goal is to remove those high bars. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Whenever you write in, that's what I've loved about working with you on this project for so many years is I've learned from you the art of trying to assume nothing on part of the viewer or the reader. And biblical literature is the opposite. That is so interesting. And there's an important role for that. But that to me is more the role of art. And art explains things in a certain way. But yeah, I'm really drawn to just clear, like concise, leave nothing assumed. Yeah, the Hebrew Bible is anything but that. And yeah, it just is what it is. You know,
Starting point is 00:17:04 we just have to reckon. I feel like we've been reckoning with that fact for seven plus years of doing the project. We have, but the way you said that right there just sparked, I just was like, oh, yeah, that's what's going on. Yeah, yeah. Meditation literature. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you got it.
Starting point is 00:17:20 So we are going to tackle the number scroll in three literary movements. And to be honest, real time, I am still neck deep in the number scroll trying to discern the literary boundaries that the author has put there. And I feel like I'm very close, but I just like all things with the Hebrew Bible, I just need lots of time to sit with it. So the number scroll, or I'm just going to start calling it in the wilderness. In the wilderness. The in the wilderness scroll has three major movements. It begins with Israel still at Mount Sinai.
Starting point is 00:17:56 So they're still there from when they arrived to their halfway through Exodus, Exodus chapter 19. And so they are going to leave Mount Sinai in the middle Exodus chapter 19. And so they are gonna leave Mount Sinai at the middle of chapter 10. And so that first section where they're at Sinai and then just leaving Mount Sinai is the first big block, literary movement. And the main focus is about organizing Israel around the Tabernacle.
Starting point is 00:18:21 It literally gives you a verbal description of how the camp is arranged, with the tabernacle tent in the middle, with the priests and Levites camping around it, and then all the tribes arranged around it. And then that has implications for the holiness and purity of the camp, and so there's lots of laws about that. And so that's the first big movement, and then they set out from the mountain. So we're going to be focusing on what theme then?
Starting point is 00:18:46 The theme of temple. So we're going to use in the app, we're going to use our theme video on temple. But the temple is the brick and mortar version of the tent tabernacle that's in this story. Okay. It's a mobile temple. So we're going to, yeah, be focusing. And in our conversations, you know, here, for the next three conversations, we'll focus on the main theme of this, which is arranging Israel's whole life around the center of God's presence in the middle. It's a first movement. The second movement is when they get out into the wilderness
Starting point is 00:19:20 and there are seven narratives in the wilderness where the people grumble, complain, don't trust God and there are seven narratives in the wilderness where the people grumble, complain, don't trust God or just straight up rebel against Moses and Aaron and God. And so these are the wilderness narratives that span from chapter around 11 to the mid 20s, around 24 or so. And there's seven testing narratives, and it's really
Starting point is 00:19:47 interesting. They bookend. They sing songs, little travel songs, when they set out into the wilderness, and they sing travel songs when they come to their destination in the early twenties of numbers. And all of these are mapped closely onto the wilderness narratives of Exodus, except the rebellion of the people is even more heightened. So what we're going to focus on is the same theme we focused on in the Exodus wilderness stories, which was the theme of the test. And the word test is only used in one of these stories, but it's when God says, I'm fed up with these people. You know, they've tested me 10 times here in the wilderness, which accounts for the seven testing stories in numbers and the three testing stories in Exodus. Oh, wow. It's so cool. Okay. So God's been counting
Starting point is 00:20:39 before. Yeah. So it also shows how this is one collection. Yes, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers is one kind of unified triad at the heart of the Torah. Yep. So that's the theme of the test that we'll talk about in the middle of Numbers. And then, once they get through the wilderness, they arrive on not in the Promised Land, but right across the Jordan River, in what's called the Land of Moa, at the Fords of Moab, modern-day Jordan, right across the Jordan River in what's called the Land of Moa at the Fords of Moab, modern day Jordan, right across the Jordan River. And so there, the people start preparing and receiving guidance for how they're going
Starting point is 00:21:14 to live once they cross the river and into the land. And so the theme of the land, promise land, is the major theme for that book that we're going to trace. So temple, for while they're at Mount Sinai, the test, where they go through the wilderness to move into and then the land from movement three as they are getting ready to cross the Jordan. Okay, so that's the overall shape of numbers of in the wilderness. Yeah, so for the next few conversations, we're just gonna camp out in these early chapters.
Starting point is 00:21:45 There's really fascinating stuff that probably most of us have struggled to see because they're just really odd parts of the book. 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc
Starting point is 00:22:18 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc 1 tbc Alright, well let's always good to start by reading. Numbers chapter 1. Then Yahweh spoke to Moses in the wilderness, B' midbar, in the wilderness of Sinai, in the tentative meeting, on the first day of the second month, in the second year after they've come out of Egypt.
Starting point is 00:22:54 That's the second year now. Yeah, they've been camped out at Mount Sinai for a year, now almost a year. Okay. Yeah, they arrived on the first day of the third month of their first year. Remember, the year the calendar was reset by Passover. Yeah, when they left Egypt. Correct. So it took them two months to wander, to go through the wilderness from Egypt to arrive
Starting point is 00:23:15 at Sinai, and they arrive on the first day of the third month. Then they've been there for, I guess, 11 months. And this is the first day of the second month of the second year. And what they hear is take a census of all the congregation of the sons of Israel by their families, by their father's households according to the number of their names, every male head by head.
Starting point is 00:23:41 So they're gonna count the heads of households. That's what they mean by male, like the patriarch. Yep, that's right. Yeah, so this is going to be, what do you say? It's a patriarchal culture structured by men who are heads of households, but going generations. So they'll be like, you know, a guy in their 60s, who's got, if he has multiple sons, then he'll be the father of multiple sons and so on and down. So they're only counting the like oldest of those men, not the sons? No, they're counting all the men. All the men.
Starting point is 00:24:13 All the men. Yep. So this is one of those places where the Hebrew Bible authors take for granted and inhabit in ancient patriarchal culture. And so what it means is that the number given at the end of the census isn't all the people. It's just the men who are heads of households. It's not kids. Correct. Unless they're adult. 20 years and up. 20 years and up, okay.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Yeah. And essentially, and also whoever is able to go to fight, an army is being formed here. It's an army roster. That's being numbered here. So, chapter one is essentially a list. It tells you the list of each of the 12 clan head rulers of the 12 tribes.
Starting point is 00:25:01 And then it just starts counting. Ah, it is interesting. The phrase take a census is to lift up the head, to take up the head. I think it's referring to counting people by their heads. Head count. That's a head count. Yeah, that's our English phrase. Yeah, so to take up a head. So this is numbers chapter one. That's why it has the name Numbers in the Greek translation tradition. And by the time it gets to the end of the census, in verse 46, we read all the numbered men were 600 and 3,550. That's a lot of people. A lot a lot of people, totally. Yeah, and so then if you count spouses and children,
Starting point is 00:25:45 you know, this is where you have a couple million people. By implication, up to, yeah, a couple million people. Yep. That itself is the numbers of numbers are a rabbit hole under themselves. Yeah, I mean, like the greater Portland area is about two million people.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Yeah, totally. Yep. So that's a couple million people is like the size of the greater Portland area where we live. I mean, that's a small city compared to the biggest cities in the world and in America. But it's still, that's a lot of people. Yeah. And I would imagine a lot of people in the ancient world. Yes, totally. Yeah, that's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:26:23 So there's a long history of discussion and debate in both Jewish and Christian tradition about these numbers, and I don't want to get caught in this rabbit hole. I'll just say one thing. In terms of the cycling of themes throughout the Hebrew Bible, this is a be fruitful and multiply part of the storyline. Yeah. I mean, it's a lot of people. That is a lot of people. And so the numbers are definitely communicating on a literary level that Israel has been camped by the little portable Eden here at Mount Sinai
Starting point is 00:26:58 and here in their little Eden in the wilderness, they have been fruitful and fruitful in multiplying. Yeah. In terms of how to make sense of these large numbers and the logical implications, I mean that just both the logistics of that many people moving through the wilderness of all the animals required to feed the people of all of the manure created by these people. Because when you get the narratives of the people, it seems like there's a much smaller crew. Because all the people can come gather around the tent, for example.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Right. Yeah. That's what it says on all Israel came and stood by the center. And there's no like football stadium that's going to carry that many people. Yeah, totally. So there's even there's a tension between the numbers and then the presentation of how many people there are in the stories because Moses can say in the hearing of all the people in that kind of thing. So for anybody who wants to go down this rabbit hole, there's two, lots of scholars have written about this. There's two that I found really helpful. One, a scholar named Gordon Wenham, who's written commentaries on almost all the books of the Torah. It's an older essay. It's actually a public domain you can find online.
Starting point is 00:28:07 It's just called large number. It's in the Old Testament. It's an older study, but he summarizes kind of the history of how people have made sense of these. And then what are some possibilities? When I'm as a follower of Jesus, he has a high view scripture as a divine and human word. It's a great essay. Another essay is by scholar David Foutz and the essay is called a defense of the hyperbolic interpretation of large numbers in the Old Testament. It's published in a conservative theological academic journal called the Journal of the
Starting point is 00:28:42 Evangelical Theological Society. So he has a very high view of Scripture as a divine and human word, and he has done research about the way numbers function, especially in lists in ancient Near Eastern literature, and it's par for course to use exaggerated numbers for rhetorical or communication purposes. And so he just makes an argument that that's the most likely explanation for these, but he gives a very thorough history of the discussion and it's a really, you know, you'll learn a lot. But what nobody disagrees with is that the literary message of this is the Israel has been fruitful and multiplying here at the foot of the mountain.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Yeah, it's interesting that that is already been thought about by the conservative edge of Bible readers who you would think would go, hey, if it says this number, it's this number. Sure. The Bible says it, I believe it. says this number, yeah, it's this number. Sure. The Bible says it, I believe it. Yeah, that's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Yeah. And so this is an important moment where to say we're reading cross-culturally. And so the difference between what I say and what I mean is significant. This happens every day in my marriage, and with almost all my friendships. Like, there's what we say to each other. But then we can context tone of voice, figures of speech, the style in which we're writing or speaking, all shape what we mean by what we say. And so this is essentially Fouts' argument is that ancient authors,
Starting point is 00:30:27 what they meant when they listed large numbers was to make rhetorical or theological points. And if that's what the biblical authors mean by what they said, then what we're honoring is what people intended to communicate. And I think that's what we should be after when we read the Bible, at least I think so. And this is a rabbit hole, so let's not go down it. Yeah. But that's a very exact number. I know. I know it is.
Starting point is 00:30:56 It's a very specific number. Yeah, it is. Yep. So, and again, when them and Falses essays, they get into it. They get into it. Yeah, all right. Yeah So what we get is this picture of the 12 tribes very orderly list all the people arranged by families and camps What a contrast from
Starting point is 00:31:18 the like the ram shackle crew wandering in the wilderness complaining angry tackle crew, wandering in the wilderness, complaining, angry at the foot of Mount Sinai. When Moses came down and saw the golden calf, he saw dancing and mixing and what he says is they're out of control. Okay. So this is also, this is a beginning motif in the section of numbers is about the order of the people. And so structure and order of these lists and the literary symmetries and design of these
Starting point is 00:31:48 lists, it's all super precise. And that itself is part of the message, is just like Genesis 1, like the super dialed in literary design structure of Genesis 1 is part of the message. You also get this sense of, don't mess with these guys. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right. I mean, they just were given the tabernacle and are set apart as holy gods among them, and now they're organized, and there's a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Yeah, that's right. Like, this is a force to be reckoned with. Yeah, that's right, yeah, what's that? And they will be as the book goes on. But let's remember, like, this is a rag's deritches kind of story. They are still in the wilderness, but because of God's blessing, they have become in ordered, fruitful, well-equipped people group who can fulfill the tasks that God has called them to.
Starting point is 00:32:41 So, the 12 tribes are listed, and remember this thing about the number 12 tribes, Jacob had 12 sons. But his most beloved son Joseph had two sons, and at the end of Genesis, Jacob adopted those two sons as his own. So he actually now has 13 sons. So the way... That'd be 14. Well, he counts the two sons in the place of his son Joseph. So Joseph has Manasseh and Ephreyam. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:12 And he counts them as Joseph now. Okay. So there's 13. And so how do you get the number 12 again? Well, it's not the list of Jacob's 12 sons. It's his sons and grandsons. And what we're told right here after the census is that the tribe of Levi is not to be counted along with their brothers. And that's because they're not going to fight, partly. And they're not going to own land. They're not going to own land.
Starting point is 00:33:40 They are set apart from the brothers. So the Levites are a thirteenth tribe? Well, there are thirteen tribes, and the Levites are not counted among the twelve. I never knew this. Really? I never knew this. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Wow. Yeah. Okay. So there's thirteen tribes as you go in, but the Levites are not among the twelve. Okay. Wow. And this is the moment where that's really highlighted. So in numbers 147, the Levites, however, don't count among by their father's tribe, nor take them up
Starting point is 00:34:14 in the census. Rather, the Levites, you shall appoint over the tent of the testimony, over all the furnishings, over everything belonging to the tent. They're going to carry the tent, carry all the furniture, they're going to care for it. This is their job. So they're set out from among, they don't serve in battle. Their job is to be facilities and maintenance for the tent. And then from the tribe of Levi, there's one family from Aaron and his sons that are the high priests who actually go in and out of its tent.
Starting point is 00:34:50 So Levi's are facilities and maintenance. Because they're not actually acting as priests. No, no, and they, in fact, there's just a whole long description of why they shouldn't come near the tent. The priests have to go in and cover everything with cloths. Like the... Before they like the symbol. The North and Disassembled. The Ark of the Covenant, everything has to get specially covered by priests, and then
Starting point is 00:35:11 the Levites can come in and take everything down. Okay. So the Levites and the priests, they're set apart, they're not counted. So that's the first thing that you learn. You've got the 12, plus the Levites set apart. So that's the very end of chapter 1, verse 48, 54. Chapter 2 comes along, and we turn our attention back to the 12, except this time, and we're going to count them again. And we're going to come to the same number again, 630, 550. But this time, we're going to start to group the tribes together by their numbered amounts.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Our artists represented this in our videos on numbers. You get this picture, it's a verbal picture, and it's really detailed, and it matches in many ways the detail of the verbal blueprints of the tabernacle on the other side of Mount Sinai, at the end of Exodus. So you get this picture of the courtyard at the very center of the camp. Courtyard of the tabernacle. Courtyard of the tabernacle. Yep. And then you get the priests, their camp, and their tents are right in front of the door. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Of the courtyard. And then the rest of the Levites camp around it. There's three tribes to the Levites, and so on the remaining three sides. So the Levites and the priests are like a first ring around the Tabernacle in the middle. And then when you get are the 12 tribes are divided into triads, placed north, south, east, and west at it, and the tribe who's placed at the front of all of the tribes is Judah. The front meaning like the direction of the...
Starting point is 00:36:50 On the east side. Because the tabernacle situated in that you enter from the east and you head west to the back of it. Exactly. So the front of it is the east. Correct. So Judah would be on the east side of it. That's right.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Yeah. And so Judah is always depicted as at the front. And then, I mean, it's in a long list in lots of detail that's boring to read from our standards of exciting literature. But if you take it as a literary statement of matching the fruitful and multiplying in chapter one of the census, now you get of the extreme order and arrangement and design, the orderliness of the fruitful and multiplied. And that concentric circle, the tent in the middle, with the Levites around it, and then tribes around it. This is all riffing off of the
Starting point is 00:37:42 precise little descriptions of the concentric circles of sacredness in the garden of Eden story where you have the tree of life in the middle of the garden. Then you have the humans who are called to work and to keep, oh, the Levites job description right here in chapters one and later on in three and four is there pointed to work and to keep the tent. It's the same exact phrase as Adam and Eve's job in the garden. To work and keep the garden. To work and to keep it. That was in our temple video, right?
Starting point is 00:38:12 It was. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, we draw attention to that. Yeah. So the Levites are described as the elect chosen tribe out of the many to become the Adam and Eve representatives surrounding the inner garden with the fruitful tribes all around it. So it's as if the fruitful tribes are like the fruitful trees of the garden. And then after that outer ring of the tribes is just the wilderness, which maps exactly on to the three concentric rings
Starting point is 00:38:47 of Eden and Genesis chapter two. So we're hearing, in terms of the melody of the themes, these are, this is Eden music, we're hearing as we begin numbers. Yeah, I wouldn't totally miss it. Yeah, yeah, still is by employing it out there. And what's interesting though too is that concentric, three-ring design, it seems to be doing two things because it's also describing the three levels of the tabernacle itself.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Oh, that's right. The Holy of Holies and then the Holy Place. And then the courtyard. And that is also mapped onto Eden, tree of life in the middle, holy of holies, the holy place, being the garden in Eden, that's right. Outer courts being Eden, Eden itself. And then outside of that wilderness, but you're saying you could take that same structure, take it up a level.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Yeah, exactly. So many levels in the Hebrew Bible. Yeah. So much like organization in terms of like, yeah, it works at this the Hebrew Bible. Yeah. So much like organization in terms of like, yeah, it works at this level of organization and now let's go to another level of organization and see that play. Yeah, the Hebrew Bible scholar that really has illuminated this for me. It's the work of David Andrew Teeter. He calls it as like fractal. Yeah. It's like you can zoom in to the smallest details of any given text. And that shape is still there. And you'll see levels of concentric or symmetrical design. But then when you zoom out at every level,
Starting point is 00:40:10 they'll be mirroring design features. Yeah, fun. And this is a good example of fractal. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah. Especially in sections of the Hebrew Bible that are trying to echo the order of Genesis 1 and of Eden. We use lots of symmetry and concentric ideas. So the whole tent complex in the middle of the camp
Starting point is 00:40:36 it now becomes like the tree of life. Then the Levites around that become like the garden keepers and then the tribes around that become just the garden keepers. And then the tribes around that become just the land of Eden around. And then the wilderness outside. Yeah, yeah, it's cool. So that's chapters one and two. We next turn our attention to the leafites, who in the middle of chapters one and two, you know, all we know is that they're not counted among the other brothers and they're set apart to serve the tent. So that little note at the end of chapter one gets selected out and then really focused on what we call chapter three and four.
Starting point is 00:41:50 So in chapter three and four of numbers, the Levites finally do get their own separate census and numbering unto themselves. So that's what happens in chapter three. And then something really significant, this is awesome. Happens in verse 12 of chapter three. And then something really significant, this is awesome. Happens in verse 12 of chapter 3. Yahweh spoke to Moses saying, Look, I have taken the Levites from among the sons of Israel. And you're like, Yeah, I know. As a substitute for all the first born of Israel. The first of every womb among the sons of Israel, so the Levites are mine, verse 13, all the firstborn of Israel belong to me. Since the day that I
Starting point is 00:42:36 struck down the firstborn in the land of Egypt, I set apart as holy to myself all the firstborn in Israel from human to animal, they are mine. I am Yahweh. This is cool to you. Well, the election of a firstborn out of the many. This is God's choosing one from among the many. Okay, sorry, let me back up. So remember in the Exodus story, when God was bringing the 10th and final act of justice on Egypt's evil.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Death of the Firstborn. And it's a flood of justice that will take the life of every Firstborn in the land. Even Israelites, just everybody, indiscriminate. But only the Firstborn. And that's significant because the first child is special. Oh, yeah. There's a general cultural backdrop of the whole Hebrew Bible of ancient Near Eastern practice of the first born son in a patriarchal culture is seen to be the representative image of the Father and has pride of place among all the other siblings.
Starting point is 00:43:50 And so in ancient Israel, there's a law that the first born son was to receive a double portion. And first born sons can be held accountable in ways for their father's choices in a way that's different than the siblings and they represent the father in a unique way. So that's just general cultural practice. And what you see in the Hebrew Bible is a God constantly subverting that practice. Yeah, choosing the second. By choosing a late-comer. Or a late-comer, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:21 A late-coming sibling and elevating them to the position of honor. So this is a major theme in the Hebrew Bible. In fact, we've decided to make a theme video about it. We're going to start working on it soon. Yes. I'm really excited about it. So that's a motif that already has been happening and it actually began in Genesis 1 and 2.
Starting point is 00:44:44 With humans, we're the late comers in Genesis 1 and 2. With humans were the late comers in Genesis 1, they're the last creatures in Genesis chapter 1 in the six days of God's creating. They're the last creature, but God elevates them as the rulers of all the other creatures. The last will be first. Exactly, yes. And that continues with the first two sons in the Bible,
Starting point is 00:45:02 Cain and Abel, and God chooses in favors the second son over the first, which makes the first born angry. And so that pattern continues with Abraham and his brothers with Jacob and he saw with Joseph and his brothers and so on. Okay, there's that whole thing. When we get to Exodus, Pharaoh, as he begins to enslave and want to kill off God's chosen ones. He targets the firstborn.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Suns it begins ordered that they are killed or thrown into the waters. Now when the first born son dies, practically the second born son is now the first born son. Oh, yeah, yep, that's right. Okay. So. But you've taken the first born son. Yeah, I mean, and that's, that's horrible. But if you're trying to like stop a family, you're going to have to like take out all the
Starting point is 00:45:53 sons. Exactly. And that's what Pharaoh's order is, his third attempt is just kill all the boys. Kill them all. Yeah, that's right. So what Pharaoh did to the Israelites in taking their sons, God brings back on Pharaoh's head and all of Egypt in the 10th plague on the night of Passover. But God provides something that Pharaoh did not, which is for anybody who will listen to the word of the Lord, God will have mercy, and they can be spared by offering a lamb as a substitute, and that's the Passover lamb, the blood on the door, and so on.
Starting point is 00:46:31 And so in the Passover descriptions, in the Exodus scroll, God says that all the first born of Israel, as of this night, belonged to me. I provided a substitute for you, and so their lives actually are mine. And that's the logic of Passover. That's what's being appealed to right here. Is that all the Israelite firstborn belong to Yahweh. But Yahweh is going to elevate this one of Jacob's sons, Levi, and set them apart from their brothers as the special ones to live and work in the Eden space. And what you always appointing here is that the Levites are all going to get swapped
Starting point is 00:47:16 in to that place of the firstborn of Israel. So there's a long count taken of how many Levites are there. Then there's a count that's taken of how many firstborn sons are there in Israel right now that belong Yahweh. And then they're all swapped out. And there's a little remainder. And so they have to offer some other stuff to the Tavernacle to make up for the remainder. They're turning this into a ritual of sorts to like signify that the tribe of Levi. Yeah. This is so hard to understand.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Belongs to Yahweh, just as the firstborn of Israel belonged to Yahweh. But they all belonged to Yahweh. Mm-hmm. In some meaningful sense too. Yeah, that's right. There's just, there's some sort of ancient logic, which is the first born have some special status and God having spared this first born. I mean, even targeting in the first place
Starting point is 00:48:15 is still hard for me to wrap my mind around. With the tenth plague, me, yeah. But that something about that is striking to kind of the heart of family and blessing. Yes. Which I don't, this was a theme video conversation of first born. I want to get into it more, but yeah, totally. Well, so a lot of this also has roots all the way back and how that first born theme continued
Starting point is 00:48:39 into the story of Abraham and Isaac in Genesis, where Abraham and Sarah's sins against Haggar and Ishmael catch up with them. And Yahweh separates Ishmael and Haggar from Abraham and Sarah. And then he also demands the life of Isaac as the ascension offering. And then at the last minute, the last second, Yahweh provides a substitute in the life of Abraham's firstborn so that the family can continue to flourish. But now the future of the family as of that moment of the substitution is recognized as a pure gift because God could have the logic of the story as God could have demanded the life of the firstborn. But he doesn't want to kill what he wants is to use Abraham to bring life and blessing to all of the nations. But now it's clear that the life of Isaac and therefore the life of this entire family
Starting point is 00:49:31 exists by the mercy and generosity of God. I think that's the logic of the story here, of there in Genesis. Okay. So that theme is being developed here and the selection of one tribe out of the many swapped out for the first born. What that means is that this tribe is now the extra special tribe that's in the slot of the Passover lamb. The first born of Israel was substituted for the Passover lamb at Passover. The first born children of Israel. And these are the people standing right here listening to all of this. Oh, these are the ones, yeah. This is the Exodus generation.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Oh, yeah. And so those people whose lives were substituted by the blameless Passover lamb, God now says, okay, guess who I'm going to put in the slot? Yeah, and so I get that. Okay. I get the logic of the swap. Yeah. But I don't get the logic of the slot.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Ah, okay, the slot. So what is the slot? The slot is the people who are going to live and work in and around the tent and the altar. So there's a sense of like, Hey, since I saved your life first born, you now are in service to me. That's the logic. And God is saying, actually, I'm going to use this tribe to be in service to me in the special way. You guys are off the hook for that task. That's right.
Starting point is 00:50:50 So being the first born is about being the uniquely responsible, an extra layer of responsibility and representation of the Father. as a clan are put into that place. And so this is all mapping back onto the Garden of Eden with out of the dust of the land, God forms in appoints one unique, priestly representative pair in the Garden of Eden. It's both blessing. They get to be closer to the presence of Yahweh than anybody else, but it's dangerous.
Starting point is 00:51:24 And that's what Leviticus taught us many times over here. The Yahweh's presence, his holiness is both good and sustains our life and it's dangerous and can end our lives just like a sacrificial lamb. And so being in the proximity to the tent and being facilities in maintenance actually puts this clan in a unique level of responsibility and privilege and also a unique place of danger that is going to be explored in the book.
Starting point is 00:51:53 We're setting this up for the themes in the book because a whole bunch of people from this clan are going to rebel against Moses many times over throughout the course of the story. But yeah, that's what's going on here. Okay. I'd like to dig deeper and we're going to have to when we write this theme video. Yeah. And just the thing that I'm wrestling with just a flag it. Yeah. Is at times God seems to really care about the logic of the first born. That this ancient cultural logic of the first born. And then other times he seems to completely subvert it and not care. Yeah, mostly subvert it. He mostly subvert it.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Like he is right here. Well, he's elevating, he's adapting it here. He's elevating a tribe that's not the first born, but putting them in the place of the first born. Now, the first born tribe would be the first born son of Joseph, which would be, right? Well, Jacob's firstborn son was Rubin, but Rubin did something terrible to his dad's wife, and so he lost out. And then the son who gets put in the slot, well, it's interesting. The next two sons in line after Rubin are Simon and Levi, and Jacob was so ticked off at Simon and Levi for the fact that they slaughtered a whole village of Canaanites in anger that
Starting point is 00:53:11 he disqualifies them. When was this? In the Genesis scroll. And so it's the fourth son, Judah, and then his beloved son Joseph, who were in competition for the role of the first born out of that. And that's the competition that continues on through the Torah. So this whole thing of like the first born
Starting point is 00:53:30 is automatically the one out of the womb first. But then there's this like some politics after that. Sometimes. Yeah, that's right. And what God loves to do is disrupt the politics and elevate people who don't deserve it into places of unique honor and responsibility. Yeah, but then when he comes to bring justice on all of the corruption and Egypt, he uses
Starting point is 00:53:55 the logic of the first born. I see. Yeah, that's right. Like, he's like, I know the first born is so significant. Mm-hmm. That's what I'm demanding. So yeah. Yeah, I just want to wrestle with all that more. Yeah like that's what I'm demanding. So, yeah. Yeah, I just want to wrestle with all that more.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Yeah, that's right. So, what's significant here is that, again, for this temple theme in the early part of the chapters, one tribe is being selected out of the many to represent and serve the many in the temple, and that's the tribe of Levi, and then a subset of them, the priests. But they are swapped out for the firstborn. So it's another subversion of the firstborn theme happening here. But also it puts this whole tribe now in the unique and dangerous role of being the mediators for God's presence.
Starting point is 00:54:43 And we're preparing for a theme in the book is that this tribe is going to royally fail. They're being set up as the Adam and Eve royal priest slot. And you're like, oh great, what could go wrong? And then everything's going to go wrong. And it's specifically Levites who are highlighted in the number scroll as really blowing at big time, many times over. So we're we're gonna be replay the whole Genesis 1 through 9 storyline. You mentioned this I think in the last conversation,
Starting point is 00:55:13 Pavlov's dogs. Oh yeah totally. Like, yeah. Election of the Adam and Eve characters. Yes. Her last, her last. Yes. Fruitful and multiply. But now we hear that g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g- Her voice. Her voice. Her voice. little more complicated, as you might expect.
Starting point is 00:55:46 But for the moment, let's just notice that unless you know to look for it, you would just read this as really boring lists. Yeah, these are the census chapters. They're the numbers of numbers. This is the stuff you're just like, why am I reading this again? That's right. So if you are using the classic criteria of telling a good story with deep characterization, intricate plot tensions, then the Torah fails on that count at this section.
Starting point is 00:56:16 However, if the goal of the biblical authors is to tell an epic narrative that is recycling a core set of themes over and over and over again, over the course of multiple generations, using all kinds of diverse literary forms to do it. Then this is a home run. We have just echoed the early chapters of Genesis 1, the order of God creating order in the middle of a chaotic wilderness of God appointing a people to be fruitful and multiply and Then elevating out among those a special royal priestly group who's in the place of honor and exist in proximity to the Eden on earth and that's exactly What numbers one to four is all about and it's all packed with verbal
Starting point is 00:57:04 hyperlinks and similar vocabulary to the opening chapters of Genesis. And that's how biblical authors do it. They love doing this stuff, man. So, but it does, like you said, set us up for... Expecting something. Expecting something to go wrong. That's right.
Starting point is 00:57:20 And so what is gonna go wrong, well, that's what we'll talk about next. Thanks for listening to this episode of Bible Project Podcast. Next week, we continue in the first movement of the scroll of numbers. Well, we're gonna session for a little bit here is essentially what we call numbers, chapter five and six. And this section, it's a straight up riddle.
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