BibleProject - Why Does Jesus Get Baptized in the Wilderness?
Episode Date: October 20, 2025The Wilderness E8 –– In the Bible, God often turns wilderness wanderings into times of testing, purification, and preparation for returning to the garden land. The tragedy of the Hebrew Bible, how...ever, is that when people do return to the garden, they keep following their own distorted wisdom and desires. This is why the beginning of every gospel account features a wild prophet named John, who is out in the wilderness by the Jordan River, preaching a baptism of repentance. It’s a symbolic reenactment of when God purified the exodus generation through the deadly chaos waters and treacherous desert. But then Jesus approaches John, also asking to be baptized. Why? In this episode, Jon and Tim unpack the background and ministry of John the Baptizer and how Jesus’ baptism connects to his larger Kingdom mission.CHAPTERSRecap of Theme and Setup for John the Baptizer (0:00-15:53)John’s Background and Words to the Pharisees (15:53-38:03)Why Jesus Participates in a Baptism of Repentance (38:03-44:47)The Heavenly Announcement After Jesus’ Baptism (44:47-51:33)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPTView this episode’s official transcript.REFERENCED RESOURCESThe Complete Dead Sea Scrolls in English, translated by Geza VermesYou can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC“Lunch Break ft. Abstractv” by Lofi Sunday“Old Record” by Lofi Sunday, Marc VanparlaBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITSProduction of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer, who also edited today’s episode and provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie. Powered and distributed by Simplecast. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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We've been tracing the theme of the wilderness through the story of the Bible.
The wilderness is a dire place, hostile to life, full of tests.
And while the wilderness can feel like a punishment or maybe even pointless hardship,
the biblical authors want us to see the wilderness as an opportunity.
God can take someone's presence in the wilderness and turn it into an important time of
testing and preparation to go back into a garden land.
God brings Israel into an abundant garden land
to live by God's wisdom and share God's life to the world.
But they turn from God, and they choose violence and oppression instead.
And so, God lets empires take them out of the land.
What Ezekiel calls the wilderness of the nations.
But Ezekiel sees hope.
That God's going to transform his people in the wilderness
so that they can become.
his covenant partners in the garden land.
This hope remains beyond reach as the Hebrew Bible comes to a close.
But lo and behold, the story of Jesus begins with a prophet
preparing the way of God through the wilderness.
This is John the Baptist.
He's baptizing people in the waters of the Jordan River as a sign of repentance,
a symbol to show that Israel is ready to re-enter the garden land.
That connection of water and wilderness are opposites,
but they become parallel symbols of something deadly or dangerous.
And when God leads people through the waters or through the wilderness,
they both have a purifying effect.
Jesus comes on the scene and he asks John to baptize him.
And John knows who Jesus is and he refuses.
Why would Jesus need to go through this act of repentance?
But Jesus insists.
Jesus has nothing to repent of.
So we're already seeing here a pattern.
of Jesus identifying with the weakness and frailty and suffering and sin of his people,
an amazing act of generosity.
Today, Tim Mackey and I look at the baptism of Jesus in the wilderness.
Thanks for joining us.
Here we go.
Hey, Tim.
Hello, John.
Hello.
We've been talking wilderness.
And we are now going into the story of Jesus.
This is always an important moment in our theme conversations through the story of the Bible.
This is the Jesus moment.
We got here.
I got here, I think we're like eight episodes in or more, and we're to Jesus.
Yeah.
In a way, I feel like all of this has been preparation to read like a couple stories in Jesus' life.
Totally, yeah.
We're going to meditate on two important moments from the gospel according to Matthew's retelling of John the Baptist.
in the wilderness and now that was an important entree moment for Jesus to enter the scene
and then Jesus' own experience in the wilderness. But let's see, we did a big recap in the previous
episode of the wilderness theme. The wilderness is a hostile environment. It's pre-creation,
opposite of creation. So the garden and the wilderness become binary opposites. The garden is the
place of order, life, heaven on earth, abundance, the ideal, the wilderness is the opposite of
all of that. But when humans find themselves in the wilderness because of their own folly,
I guess I'm doing a recap. Yeah, do it. Or because of the folly of other people that's, right,
heaped on them and they are cast into the wilderness through no fault of their own. God can
take someone's presence in the wilderness and turn it into an important time of
testing and preparation to go back into a garden land.
What happens, though, in the history of the Hebrew Bible is that the wilderness keeps not
doing what you hope it would do in people's hearts and minds to trust that God wants
to give them Eden, even in the middle of the wilderness.
And so the cycle of Israel's story and history ends up in what Ezekiel calls the wilderness
of the nations, which is exile among the nations, primarily because of Babylon, but he
calls it a wilderness, which means he sees hope that God's going to transform his people in the
wilderness so that they can become his covenant partners in the garden land. And that is a hope
that remains constantly just beyond reach as the Hebrew Bible comes to a close.
And that's exactly why the Gospel of Matthew begins the way that it does.
Because what we're looking for is an Israelite covenant partner who will be the covenant partner that the people of Israel consistently failed to be over the course of the story of the Hebrew Bible.
And you can fail while in the wilderness.
You can fail while in the garden land.
That's right. Yeah, yeah.
And both of those stories happen over and over.
and when you fail in the garden land,
you end up back in the wilderness.
Back in the wilderness, yeah.
And in the wilderness, you can frame it as a consequence,
which it is,
but then you can look at a different angle and realize,
oh, this is an opportunity.
Yeah, yeah.
It's an opportunity for me to be reformed,
to get out of my own way,
to learn what I really need,
and that I can trust,
and I can listen to the voice of God in a more pure way.
And when you really turn up the volume of that angle,
you get to the point of where you start talking,
about it as like being this intimate yeah connection to god that's right falling in love yeah yeah
yeah and then it could prepare you to enter the land yes yeah yet all the stories in the hebrew
bible of every character going through that end up not prepared to actually go into the land yeah that's
right it's good so the wilderness can have multiple functions it can feel like punishment it can feel like
sitting in the consequences of my own destructive decisions or others decisions,
but it then can also be transformed into a refuge, intimate place
where the suffering strips away the illusions that I can provide for myself,
that I am in control.
And it makes me learn that, as Moses said in Duranmi 8,
that humans don't actually live by the things
that they provide for themselves, like bread.
But rather, real life comes to us,
whether in the garden or the wilderness,
from the word of God that proceeds out of his mouth.
And that's a lesson that God's covenant partners
didn't learn in the story the Hebrew Bible.
And that's told within a story
that begins with Genesis 1 through 11
that tells you all humanity
keeps not learning that lesson outside of Eden.
which makes you wonder is okay I guess could there ever be a human who's outside of Eden who would learn that lesson and become the ideal human or the faithful covenant partner I wonder yeah that's the setup can I ask though then you can learn this in the garden and you can learn this in the wilderness yeah right yes so if you are the true faithful covenant partner wouldn't you
be learning it in the garden?
Right?
Isn't that the most faithful, beautiful way to learn this?
It's to not have to go to the wilderness at all.
Sure.
It's the Adam who said, I'm not going to eat that.
I'm going to go to you, God, for wisdom.
Let's take a walk, God.
Help me out and we'll stay in the garden.
Yeah.
That's the most faithful human.
That is.
But the situation, when Jesus comes on to the scene,
It could be just that Jesus, as the God of Israel, become human,
could just enjoy a garden existence within his communion with the Father through the Spirit.
But there'd be all these people dying out there in the wilderness.
And Jesus would just be, well, it sucks for them.
But I've got a good thing going here.
But what if the generosity and mercy of God was so great
that God, in the person of Jesus, would...
Join them and leave the garden and suffer alongside those outside of Eden.
Yeah, that's an interesting way to think of what is happening in the story we're about to read.
Actually, there's no better way to summarize the story we're about to read.
Thank you for that.
Cool. Okay.
Okay. Matthew 1 and 2 is the genealogy of Jesus as the son of Abraham and the son of David.
then you get the stories of Jesus's
his birth, his exiled Egypt,
and then coming back
in the days of Herod.
And then his family lands in Nazareth.
That's at the end of Matthew 2.
And then all of a sudden,
he's grown up,
and we fast forward a few decades.
And here we go, Matthew Chapter 3.
Now, in those days,
Yones, the Emmercer, arrived.
Yonnes is how you...
You say John.
You say John in Greek.
Okay.
He's Greek pronounced.
So, Yochanan, in Hebrew.
Okay.
Yonnes in Greek.
And he's the baptizer, that is the immerser.
Mm-hmm.
So he arrived announcing in the wilderness of Judea.
Hmm.
So he's in the wilderness of Judea.
And I, you know, it's so funny, there's just things you never look up until you think about it.
I just looked up the phrase of the wilderness of Eudiah.
This is in Greek, Matthew's in Greek.
And the phrase appears in only one time in the Hebrew Bible, or the Greek Bible.
Which is?
It's the heading of Psalm 63.
A prayer of David when he was in the wilderness of Judea, fleeing from Saul.
And it begins, my tongue is parched, my body longs for you as in a dry and weary land where there is no water.
Wow, cool.
Yeah.
So he's out there.
The wilderness of Jadaea is where the king of Israel, the first real, faithful king of Israel,
spent a long period of testing in the wilderness.
Yeah.
That's the other time this phrase appears.
So all of that is surely meant to be in our minds, because this is going to be about another son of David coming on to the scene,
and his entry point is in the wilderness of Judea.
Yeah.
Where would this have been?
Because Judea is in the hill country, right?
Oh, yes.
Yeah, it's a fair amount of debate.
So if you go down, kind of due east from Jerusalem, there's a highway now, down into the Jordan Valley.
It's right near where the Jordan Valley empties into what is now the Dead Sea.
Yeah, it's pretty dry there.
Super dry.
Yeah, okay.
Like one of the lowest points on the planet.
It's a deep, deep ravine.
And this is where the Dead Sea Scrolls were in the Coomeroon community.
Yes, which we'll talk about.
Okay.
Yeah.
the gospel of John's portrait of where John is doing his thing
and then where Matthew and Luke and Mark portrayed John doing his thing
in the wilderness Judea and there's some tensions there
about where exactly John was we're not going to go into that right now
so he's just out there in the wilderness announcing repent
or in normal English change your direction
go a different direction yeah because the kingdom
of the skies has come near.
So the arrival of God's kingdom...
Who's he talking to? There's other people out there with him?
Oh, you have to wait. You'll see you in the corresponding panel here.
Why was John out there doing this, saying this?
Because this is what was spoken through Isaiah the prophet, saying, quote,
A voice calling in the wilderness, prepare the way of the Lord and make straight his paths.
So this was a wilderness passage in the prophets that we didn't read in the previous conversation.
No, but we read it in the New Exodus conversation.
Yeah. These is from the opening paragraph of Isaiah 40, which is a key hinge text in the shape and structure of Isaiah, the prophet.
And the wilderness here is referring to the wilderness between Babylon and Israel because they need to come back.
right so there's going to be a highway through it yeah and so that's the wilderness
referred to yeah so Isaiah 40 is an announcement that the exile the wilderness of the
nations the wilderness of the nations as Ezeko called it that it's fulfilled its purpose
then that the time is over and now is the time of comfort yeah that's how Isaiah 40 opens
comfort comfort my people and tell her that the hard season is over and that in the wilderness
there is a voice calling out saying Yahweh's coming back.
So let's make a highway, a road, through the wilderness, a road in the desert,
and Yahweh is going to come back and the glory of Yahweh will be revealed
and all humanity will see it.
This is what Yahweh says.
So there was this hope for a return in the re-gathering of God's covenant people
in the garden land where a temple would be.
restored as a city on the hill and the light to the nations. This is Isaiah 60 and 42, 49. All that.
However, that voice of calling Israel back out of Babylon into the land, that happened already,
right? Ah, okay. Well, this is interesting. So the shape of Isaiah makes you think that, oh,
this is what happened a generation after the exile in Babylon. Yeah, so somewhere in the 500th
BC. And then they rebuilt the temple. That's right. And that's when Zurbable and then Ezra and Nehemiah.
And for sure, it seems that the people who returned from Babylon to Jerusalem to rebuild the temple,
that they were fueled by the prophetic hopes like this that we read about in Isaiah. But then Isaiah
itself registers the failure of those hopes. And that Israel back in the land with the rebuilt temple was
just as corrupt and idolatrous as they were before.
So whatever Isaiah 40 meant was something for even a yet future generation to hope for,
because now they're back in the land, but they may as well still be in the wilderness
because things have not improved.
Yeah.
So Isaiah 40 still speaks a word of hope.
Centuries later, like in the days of John the immerser.
So first you should know John dressed like Elijah the prophet.
You wore camel hair and an animal skin belt.
he ate insects and wild honey
he lived off the land
he's a wild man he's living out in the heart
he's living in the wilderness
yeah he made his home in the wilderness
yes yeah and there came out to him
the city of jerusalem
like whoa okay
i eat the population
but all of judea
and the surrounding regions of the Jordan
people coming from all over
are coming out into the wilderness
and they were being
being immersed or baptized in the Jordan River.
So there's some new information
and confessing their sins,
confessing their failures.
So John has intentionally chosen
the section of the Jordan River
where Moses led the people right to the other side
and then Joshua crossed over with the people
when they first came to enter the land.
John chooses that spot to do this.
passing through the waters symbol.
Ooh, okay.
So he's in the wilderness,
but then he's making people pass through the waters.
Remember that connection of water and wilderness
we talked about,
and many conversations ago from Genesis 1, verse 2
in the Garden of Eden story.
The waters and the wilderness are opposite
in terms of wilderness as a land without
water but they become parallel symbols of something deadly or dangerous and when god leads people
through the waters or through the wilderness they both have a purifying effect they're kind of like
opposites that have the same symbolic meaning right okay to get into the land you go through the
wilderness get into the land you go through the waters that's right yeah that's it yeah that's it
and they both prepare you yeah i should have just said that no no i was just a
summarizing no what you said was helpful so that's john now one question is like where's this
guy coming from luke provides a bit of john's backstory yeah he's a priest the son of a priest
his parents are really well established Torah observant israelites in jerusalem lots of connections
so what's he doing out here why isn't he preparing for the priesthood yeah he's taking more of a
prophetic role than a priestly role.
Yeah.
Okay, so here's what is super interesting.
This could be a long detour and we're not going to go down it.
Are you daring me?
I guess so.
I guess so.
So the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Famous, very important discovery of ancient, biblical and just manuscripts from a Jewish community
that relocated from Jerusalem to the slopes of the Dead Sea on the West.
side of the Dead Sea, but in other words, in the hills and wilderness of Judea, in exactly
the same region that Matthew marks as John being here. So these manuscripts came into public
view in the 1940s. It's a fascinating story that I will force myself not to tell, but it's so
cool, and found in a number of caves in the slopes up above the Dead Sea. And these are exactly
the hills and the types of caves that David was like hiding out in and fleeing from Saul in.
But somewhere in the 150s BC, so 150 years before Jesus, there was a very tumultuous period
of Jewish history that's told we know about this from a number of records, the books
of the Maccabees, Second Temple, Jewish literature, and also the history.
Josephus. And he tells a time where the Jerusalem priesthood in the temple, the leadership
of Jerusalem was a highly contested, fraught, political, religious cluster. And the high priesthood
was essentially become a symbolic position that was available to the highest bidder. People
were buying and selling the most important leadership positions. Was this an era where they were not
really being occupied, there was
a bit of freedom, or was...
Yeah, it was in the small window
of Jewish independence
in Jerusalem that was
won by the Maccabees and the Maccabeean revolt.
Yep.
So before Rome came,
but it was the Persians who were then
kicked out?
Well, it went Babylon and Persia.
Yeah.
And Persia was around for a while
until Alexander the Great swept the ancient world
in the mid-300s.
Okay.
And then he divided up his kingdom's, huge kingdom in what we call Asia and the Middle East today,
to all kinds of different regional rulers.
And those handoffs were to a bunch of rulers in Syria, which is north of Jerusalem.
Okay.
And then to some Egyptian rulers in the south.
Oh, okay.
And the Syrians and the Egyptians were constantly fighting each other,
and Jerusalem was the contested middle ground.
in between them. So Jerusalem got taken over multiple times. And so the Maccabeean revolt was like,
enough, this is our ancestral city. You both stay out. And the Maccabians kicked out the Syrians.
Okay. And so it was, yeah, about 100-ish years of Jewish independence.
Okay. And in that time, the high priesthood became like a puppet role that people were buying and selling.
What people?
Oh, Israelites.
But you also had Israelites who were, like, pro-Greek culture, pro-Polytheism, or maybe they were pro-God of Israel.
But let's, you know, let's build some Greek gymnasiums and some hot baths and have some games in Jerusalem, like the Olympic Games.
Maybe Jews don't really need to eat kosher and be circumcised.
And these are what? Are they leaders?
Yeah.
And what sense are they leaders?
Yeah.
So you have rival factions within the Israelite leadership in this time, some of whom are pro-Greek culture.
It's the new, it's what the kids are doing.
Yeah.
This is our future among the nations.
And then you have the more traditional conservatives who are like, no, we're Israelites.
So what was the political system at that time?
Oh, it was like a monarchy.
Okay.
So both the kingship and the high priesthood were often mixed together in this period.
And so...
The king would also be the high priest?
Mm-hmm, yeah.
And in what sense were people buying that off?
Who was...
If you're the king and the high priest, you're the one in charge.
Whose money do you need?
Yeah, that's right.
So it's a very complicated...
Things were changing by the year.
Okay.
And you'd have people be a king and try and declare that they're also the high priest,
and then people would rebel.
And then you'd have a king who would say, all right, I'll have a right-hand person that's the high priest.
But Israel is reinventing itself every few years, and there were assassinations and political coups.
It's fascinating.
This is the story told in the Maccabees, books of the Maccabees.
So during that period, there was a community of priests who traced their ancestry to the Zadokites,
and they believed the whole thing was so corrupt that they withdrew.
into the very region where John is named Matthew
and they started this community
and they took a whole bunch of biblical scrolls with them
and then they also wrote a lot of their own literature
and one of the piece of literature that was first discovered
when the Dead Sea Scroll's surface is called the Serak Hayachad
the rule of the community.
It's a handbook for this community
and it tells a brief history of who they are
why they did what they did,
why they went where they went,
and then what you have to do
to be a part of the community.
Super interesting,
and this is a whole rabbit hole
of, like, New Testament studies.
But what is really interesting
is if you read the opening paragraph
to this founding document,
here, so I'm just going to sample
the first paragraph.
Okay, so now I'm kind of sticking my head
in the rabbit hole
that I said we're not going to go down.
Okay. Just a peek.
All right.
So, this is talking about the leadership structure of this formerly, priestly community.
Okay.
And they say, in this community, there will be a council of 12.
Yeah, it makes sense.
So they're an alternative Israel down there in the wilderness.
And then three priests that are to be perfect.
That is complete?
Complete.
It's the word tamim in Hebrew or teleos.
Perfect in everything.
that has been revealed from all
of the Torah. Okay. So we are
going to do it right. Yeah.
Yeah. They're starting a faithful
Israel out in the wilderness.
We are going to carry out
truth and justice,
judgment, and compassionate
love, humble behavior
towards each other.
We will preserve faithfulness
in the land with a firm
purpose and a spirit of repentance.
Think of John.
In order to atone,
for sin by doing what is just and undergoing many tests.
So you're like, well, this sounds like John the Baptist, doesn't it?
We're going to retreat to the wilderness, start a faithful Israel that's repentant,
and maybe we can be faithful to God in a way that will atone for the sins of Israel.
Okay.
So you're saying the rabbit hole might lead to John might have been in this tradition?
Okay, wait for it.
So later in the paragraph, when this has been established, the foundation of the community and someone has two years of perfect behavior.
So there's a two-year initiation period for anybody who wants to join the community.
Then that one will be separated like a holy one in the midst of the council of the men of the community.
and then down in line 13.
They are to be separated from within the dwelling of the men of sin.
So they're separating themselves from sinful Israel to join this community
to walk into the desert in order to open up there his path.
Whose path?
As it is written, in the desert, prepare the way of the Lord
and straighten in the desert a roadway for our God.
This is the study of the Torah that has been commanded through the hand of Moses.
Okay.
So that was the text that they were holding up too.
So Isaiah 40 stood there like a script waiting to be performed
for a generation of Israel to go out into the desert
and reform a purified Israel that will...
To be a voice in the wilderness.
means to be the kind of Israelite
who can go out into the wilderness
and pass the test.
Yes, exactly.
To do what our ancestors failed to do.
And in that way, you're preparing the way.
Yeah.
So we're going to be a wilderness people
like the wilderness generation
where God came to live among them
in the tabernacle.
Okay.
Because God favored the tabernacle
before he ever chose the temple in Jerusalem.
Yeah, so my point is,
in New Testament scholarship,
Dead Sea Scroll Scholarship,
there's been a long discussion
about John the Baptist relationship
to this group.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Because this group was also really
into water baptism as a symbol
of purification. Okay, I was going to,
I was wondering that. Yep.
This group was committed to celibacy
as were John and Jesus.
How do they,
it's no kids?
Well, what seems like is that
you had this community
that was almost like
what would later become a
monasteries in Christian tradition.
But then the documents of the community also mentioned that there are lots of people in the community who live in towns and cities.
So it was...
They're still attached to the community?
It seemed like it was a broader movement.
Okay.
It was like a sectarian movement.
You can go and live there, be the monk essentially.
Yeah.
Or the priests.
Or the priests.
But you could also be kind of attached to the community but go live in the town or city.
That's right.
Okay.
Yeah, so there's a broader renewal movement that they're a part of.
I see.
But then, like, the hyper, devout ones are living in the wilderness.
So what we don't know, John the Baptist and Jesus are never mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
But it seems very likely, they're miles from each other.
Yeah.
It seems very likely that John certainly would have known about, been relationally connected in some way to this.
community. Why doesn't this community ever show up in any way in other than Jesus' ministry as he's
traveling around? It doesn't feel like he's interfacing at all with this. Yeah, this group.
This group. That's a great question. So what we know about this group is they were not the ones
in power. And so Pharisees and Sadducees, that is Zaticites, who are in power in Jerusalem,
are the main people. That Jesus interacts with. Yeah. But then also the poor.
or people all over
and there's never a sense of like
any hints of this community
or people part of this community
or Jesus connected to this community.
But you could say the same,
we know there were freedom fighter movements
and Jesus never interacts with any of them
except to recruit one
to his disciples, Simon Zealot.
But there's no story of Jesus
interacting with zealot leaders
because they were super withdrawn
and so was this community.
So...
How interesting would it be
if there was a story
of one of the disciples coming from this group.
Yeah. Well, there is that story of the disciples of John
come and ask Jesus, why don't you fast?
Which the Qumran community, again, from this rule,
had really dedicated fasting practices.
So it's not hard to imagine the disciples of John
also having a connection to this community.
But we don't know what we don't know.
We don't know. We don't know.
But there's such close family alignment
and alignment of ideals and language.
And Isaiah 40 was a big deal to both.
So we could, and maybe we should, do more on this in the future.
There's so much to explore.
It also explains why John has the reaction that he does when the next thing happens,
which is Matthew 3, verse 7.
When he saw many of the Pharisees and the Sadducees coming out to his baptism,
he said to them,
You are seed of the snake.
Yeah, there's a back story here that we don't have.
Yeah, clearly, he has reason to dislike these people.
But this is exactly the type of language that the Dead Sea Scroll people used to describe the priests running.
The compromised priests.
Yes, yes.
Yeah, they call them the men of wickedness and the men of evil counsel and the wicked priests.
That's what they're called in the Qumran literature.
So, this, Pharisees are not an institution.
power, that they are
like a populist religious
movement. And the Qumran community
thinks they are not going far enough.
Correct. Yeah, that they're not
devout enough. They're still compromised. But not as
enough as the Sadducees or fully compromised.
That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Think of
the fragmented nature of
Christian communities
in North American
culture. I don't know what you're talking about.
It's a very similar
type of power games here. The Sadducees
is how we pronounce.
what in Greek is Zadukaios, which is the Greek pronunciation of the descendants of Zadok,
which is a priestly lineage that goes back to David's time.
So there were Zadokites among the Khrman community that had peeled off,
and then there were Zadokites still participating in the powers of Jerusalem.
So the point is these are investigators that come out to John to check out his immersion,
and he calls them Seed of the Snake.
and so he says listen
who directed you to flee from the coming anger
he's borrowing language from
Jeremiah and Ezekiel here
there's another wave of
justice coming
so then produce fruit worthy
of repentance of a change in direction
don't think that you can say to yourselves
we have Abraham as our father
nah God can raise up from these stones
children from Abraham
the axe is at the root of the tree
we're reaching the point of no return
and every tree that doesn't produce good fruit
it's going to be cut down
and tossed into the fire
but I have immersed y'all in water
for a change of direction
but there is one coming
after me
he is mightier than me
in fact I'm not even worthy to carry
his sandal and he will immer
you not in water but in the Holy Spirit and fire whoa it's always been so confusing for me but it's
starting to like have new categories that are interesting there's coming a test yeah a great test
is going to come upon Israel yeah this generation you're about to face one of your greatest
tests and how you respond to the test before you will determine whether Israel will
go through another cycle of being handed over to destruction.
So I'm out here in the wilderness, and I'm trying to get Israel to stop being compromised,
to live faithfully by the Torah, and we're going to these extreme measures.
We're going to do it.
Yeah.
And I'm getting people, this is a revival movement.
Yep.
Because God's heavenly rule, it's kingdom.
Yeah.
The kingdom of the skies has come.
It's come near, yeah.
And this is drawing enough attention
and getting enough people interested
that the Sadishis and Pharisees come to check it out.
He's talking to them.
All these words are directed at them.
So he says to them, look,
like you've got to change direction too.
You've got to get in on this.
And this is going down.
Like there's something happening here.
The axe is at the base of the tree.
Yes.
Like it's about to happen.
Yeah.
And you're interested and worried about me what I'm doing with this water baptism thing.
Like, there's someone else coming that you should really be paying attention to.
And this water baptism thing is important, but there's like a different type of immersion that's going to happen, what you call it's the Holy Spirit and fire.
Yeah, an immersion in God's holy breath and fire.
so holy breath is associated with God's
holy presence
that brings life
and fire
which is all about testing and purification
so you can pass through the water
you can pass through the wilderness
and then yet another image in the prophets
is passing through the fire
which is the image of purification
it burns away what is frail
so that what is enduring
can pass through the flame.
This is really important for the book of Isaiah.
So being thrown into the fire here is going through the wilderness.
Going through the water, going through the wilderness, and going through the fire.
Because going through the fire was always a category for me of like final judgment.
It is an image of purging.
Yeah.
But if it's an image of purging, then it's more like wilderness than a sense of like final judgment.
prophets God burning Israel to purify them is among.
So the flood or the fire or the wilderness are all images in the prophets to talk about
a purification process so that Israel can become the faithful representative and
partnered.
Yeah, this holy breath and this fire.
Yeah, that's right.
John is the voice preparing the way of Yahweh to come in the wilderness. John comes in the wilderness. He prepares the people.
and then
verse 13 of Matthew 3
then Jesus came
you're like wait I thought Yahweh was coming
prepare the way for Yahweh to come
and then Matthew says
and then Jesus came
even just that little subtle
he's putting Jesus' arrival in the slot
of the story in Isaiah 40
which is about Yahweh coming
so there Jesus
arrived from up north in Galilee
down at the Jordan to John 2
to be baptized by him.
You're like, wait a minute.
I thought you're being baptized for a symbol of repentance.
Purification.
Yeah, for Israel to be purified and say, we're sorry for all the histories of idolatry and unfaithfulness.
And so verse 14 begins a moment that's only found in Matthew's version of the baptism of Jesus.
John tried to stop him.
you don't need this saying no no no no no I'm a part of sinful Israel I need to be baptized by you
why are you coming to me yeah so John already has some understanding of Jesus of who he is but he
already said that there's somebody coming yeah you know it's more powerful but Jesus responded
by saying no allow it allow this right now this is appropriate for us in order to fulfill
all righteousness or maybe in my translation paraphrase in order to fill full all doing right
and then john allowed him and baptize him why would jesus need to be identified and participate
in a symbol of repentance for israel's sins that's the puzzle of this little scene right here right
Right. And this is where we start the conversation is, if Jesus is this faithful Israelite.
And again, this is Matthew, so we know from the genealogy, he's the son of David, son of Abraham.
He's the son of God through the Holy Spirit. We know that from the birth stories. Why would he?
Yeah, he could learn to live by the voice of God in the garden. He doesn't need to go to the wilderness.
Exactly, yes.
And so this is John basically telling him that, like, look, you're good.
You don't need to be out here in the wilderness with us.
You don't need to baptism of repentance.
Yeah.
Like, I watched you grow up.
Yeah.
If anything, like, you should be doing it for us, for me, and for all of us.
And then Jesus says, actually, no, it's appropriate for me to get baptized in the same symbol of repentance.
Yeah, yeah.
And that by me doing it fills up righteousness.
Yeah.
So righteousness in Matthew primarily means doing right by God
and doing right by God's images that is my neighbor.
And that's what Israel was called to do in the covenant.
That's what Israel has failed to do.
Yeah.
And so left empty.
Left empty.
Yes, Israel's righteousness is empty.
but what if the one coming who will immerse you in God's breath and purifying fire,
what if that one were to join Israel in the wilderness and repent on Israel's behalf,
identify himself with the sins of his people?
That would be an amazing act of generosity.
We're already seeing here a pattern that begins here with Jesus identifying with the weakness,
and frailty and suffering and sin of his people.
This is Jesus entering the wilderness.
Yeah, so he goes into the wilderness,
and then he goes into the waters in the wilderness.
Yeah.
Which is all about a passage through the dangerous disorder.
And to be in the wilderness means you did something wrong.
Yeah, yeah.
And to go through the wilderness and some sort of baptism
means you're repenting of that wrong thing.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's right.
The wilderness is what.
what purifies you to be ready to inherit the garden land.
Yeah, that's right.
So we're seeing the pattern that will be play itself in the next story,
which is Jesus voluntarily giving up his divine dignity and power and honor to bow low, so to speak,
and identify with unfaithful people.
You're talking about the next set of stories where he gets tested in the wilderness.
Yeah, but even the idea begins here.
But the idea begins here.
In the baptism.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Why do you need to be baptized as a symbol of purification
and as a symbol of repentance to say,
we're sorry for not being your faithful covenant partners?
Jesus has nothing to repent of in the presentation of the story.
Yeah.
I think it's interesting that to go through the waters of repentance for John and his crew
is a symbol of re-entering the land.
Repentance to re-enter the land.
And Jesus comes and he says,
I'm going to do this thing with you
because actually like, I'm kind of the...
I mean, this is a subtext, I guess,
or like us supplying some meaning here.
You guys actually can't do this.
That's right.
In the frame of the whole biblical story,
and the way we'll probably think about the video,
yeah.
Yeah, I'm here to do the thing
that you can't seem to do.
and you're doing it so that you can re-enter the land,
but I'm going to do it, and I'm going to do it to enter into the wilderness
and show you what it looks like to pass the test in the wilderness.
Yeah, that's right.
And be the kind of person that God can work with in the wilderness.
Yeah, John is replaying a Joshua moment.
Let's go back, re-enter the land.
And it's almost like Jesus is saying,
No, we're going to replay.
We're going to do a Moses moment.
A Moses moment.
Yeah.
Of going through the waters of the Red Sea, the waters of death.
Because there's another wilderness on the other side of these waters for Jesus.
So the next moment in the story is after being baptized, Jesus comes up out of the water.
We've meditated on this moment many, many times over the years.
This is a very, very important story.
The skies are opened up, and you're like,
oh, the skies are the source of God's kingdom that has come down.
Now the skies are the source of God's spirit coming down.
You're like, wait, that's the Holy Spirit that this guy's going to bring.
So we're kind of, now we're watching Jesus have a special moment connected with the Spirit.
You're like, oh, this is what John said, what's going to happen.
the spirit of God came down like a dove
like a bird
yeah which has echoes of Genesis 1 verse 2
the hovering the spirit hovering like a bird
and of after the flood
Noah sending out the dove to hover over the waters
to look for dry land
so as the spirit coming down
on him is coordinated with a voice
coming down speaking from the skies
that announces three things about the identity of Jesus.
One is, this is my son.
That's a line from Psalm 2.
The Beloved One, that phrase is from Genesis 22,
speaking about Abraham's beloved son and Isaac,
in whom I have delight.
And that's a line from Isaiah 42
about the figure called the servant in the poetry of Isaiah.
And actually, I'm just going to highlight the Isaiah servant image.
The whole point of the servant in Isaiah 40 to 55, especially,
is about replaying the stories of Israel's failure.
And Isaiah even in 41 or 42 highlights Israel's failure in the wilderness.
But God will raise up a servant who will be a humble, trusting, obedient, leader,
for the people of Israel
to do for Israel
for his people what they can't do for themselves
which leads to in the famous suffering servant poems
him suffering
and identifying so much with the sins of his people
that he'll die their death on their behalf
and you can already begin to see
that portrait of Jesus right here
that he's identifying
with them in their weakness
in their unfaithfulness
and then
sins. But yet he is also
the king from the line of David
Psalm 2. That's the son. Yep, this is my son.
The beloved ones
about being the
son who's sacrificed.
Yeah, who's offered up for the sins
of his father. In this case
for the sins of their ancestor
whereas Isaac. Yeah, Genesis 22
with Isaac. Yeah, Isaac dying
for the sins of his
father. Yeah, but then
God provides a ram. That's a
substitute. So the point is
is that this little voice from God is identifying Jesus as a royal son of David who will bring
the promises of Abraham to their fulfillment by identifying and suffering for his people.
And already you can see that hint to that in the exchange. So he just passed through the waters.
And we know that he's going to bring a passage through wind and fire. That's what John said.
But another coordinated image from Genesis is passing through the wilderness.
And we're going to find out that passing through the fire for Jesus is a reference forward to the ordeal that we call the passion.
Oh, that's his fire.
Mm-hmm.
And that's the fire he brings is the fire he goes through.
Yes, yeah, totally.
That's right.
And what he's going to do in the very next story is go through the wilderness on Israel's behalf.
So we should look at that story next.
Deal.
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