Big Bro with Kid Cudi - Adam Scott: Severance Season 3, Step Brothers & Taylor Swift's Songwriting

Episode Date: April 29, 2026

INSAAAANE that Adam Scott pulled up y'all. Severance is my SHIT. We get into Severance behind the scenes and how he shot that camcorder scene, working with Ben Stiller, and what Adam thought when he f...irst read the script for the first time. But this is Big Bro, so you know we go way deeper than that too: We talk about how Adam grew up going to major concerts (Tom Petty!! Black Sabbath!!) and his #1 concert regret, plus all his work with comedy legends like Will Ferrell, John C. Reilly, and of course the STAR that is Kathryn Hahn. He's got a seriously terrifying new movie out 5/1, Hokum, and we get into shooting REAL horror with practical effects and his own most haunted story. It's a gooood time y'all, get into it!!! Big Bro is presented by Adobe Acrobat. Check out my PDF Space today! https://acrobat.adobe.com/link/spaces/urn%3Aaaid%3Asc%3AUS%3A978c8d52-33b1-45ef-ad06-be47b0695712 Pull up, tap in and vibe out. Peace! new eps of Big Bro launch every Wednesday 🚀 Big Bro is a Wave Original.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for more good vibes, tune in everywhere @bigbrocudi Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Wave. Have you ever had a paranormal experience? Okay, so I was staying at the Chateau Mama. We're just haunted. It's got to be haunted. If anything's going to be haunted, it's a Chateau Marmont. Haunted. It was this fireplace, and you know how they have the little metal fence over the fireplace, right?
Starting point is 00:00:18 Yeah, yeah, right. I come down one day, and I look at this gate, and I see two handprints of baby hands. What? And, like, it's like ash. And I looked at it, and I was like, The Chateau Baby. What up, y'all? This is Big Bro with Kid Cuddy,
Starting point is 00:00:58 a wave original presented by Adobe Acrobat. I'm your big bro, Scott, coming to you live from the attic of my mind. This week, I'm sitting down with a modern legend, my boy, Adam Scott. Now, Severance is one of my favorite shows. Adam even invited me to set and almost pissed my pants.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Adam's acting process he talks about hilarious stepbrothers behind the scenes stories Adam's secret obsession with Taylor Swift's music we talk about it all so kickback, bye about and dream on see you on another side Adam like you're doing this dude
Starting point is 00:01:34 thanks man like this is a big episode and we met officially at the Severance finale premiere and we have to get right into sure you know we have to we have to talk about this really great by the way to meet you there like to find out you're a fan of the show was so cool because I didn't know that and it was so flattering and it was a big deal so thanks thanks for going to that thing of course when I
Starting point is 00:02:05 found out they were doing it I was like I have to be there because me and my wife like every week yeah we're like we got to watch separates we got and my sister would fucking ruin it for us. She read her to something like, so that was, uh, that was an any that was in that. Like,
Starting point is 00:02:21 and I'm just like, we haven't seen the episode yet. And, uh, she would just, yeah, just ruining it. But that was me and my wife's thing to sit
Starting point is 00:02:30 and watch an episode every week. It was our bonding thing. And we would talk about it. Yeah. We would have discussions about it. Yeah. And like, I just want to ask you like,
Starting point is 00:02:40 severance, like, what was, when you got that script. Yeah. Like, did they give you all the scripts all at once? Or what did they give you the pilot? And then, like, did you fully see the vision right away?
Starting point is 00:02:52 Right. Or did it take you some time to kind of understand what this was? Well, when I first heard about it, it was still just an idea. Okay. Ben Stiller, he called me, like, in January of 2017. Wow. And just told me the idea. Just like, it's a world where you get, you know, you're a,
Starting point is 00:03:14 a different person at work. And then when you leave work, you have no idea what you were doing at work. But when you're at work, you have no idea who you are in the outside world. It's just a thing that I'm starting to think about with this guy, Dan Erickson, just wanted to put it in your brain, just to think about like, see, you know, I don't know when this is going to happen, but just, and, and I was like, yeah, that sounds cool. But, but then I didn't talk to him for like another year, but I could never shake it. I couldn't get that idea out of my head just because that it's just a really simple, great idea, like a really great Twilight Zone episode or something. Yeah. So it wasn't until like two years later that I actually read a script and I just read that first one and I just knew I had
Starting point is 00:04:03 to be a part of it. I mean, my first instinct was I'll never actually get this role. Like this is too good. There's no way I'm going to get to do this. But luckily, luckily I ended up getting it. But it was like, I knew it was something that I had been waiting this whole time, this whole like 20 years or whatever to get a role like this. It's something, it's exactly what I always wanted to do. Yeah. It was like it was all converging on this one role. Yeah, it does seem like the role of a lifetime.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Yeah. Yeah, it is. Tell me a little bit about the preparation for this character for Mark. Yeah. It's interesting because, you know, it's like it's almost like it's two characters, but it's a little more complicated than that because it's the same dude. Exactly. Right? Yeah. So it's just different parts of the same dude.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Exactly. It's like one of them has 40 odd years of life experience and the other one is like two years old. But they're the same person essentially. So it was a pretty trippy journey figuring out how to play each side of him. And it was a lot of like trial and error and just kind of figuring it out. Just like when we were figuring out how to express what it's like to go up and down in the elevator, it took us weeks and weeks of trying different versions of it until we landed on me like you know you flutter your eyes back and you change but it took a lot of like trying things that
Starting point is 00:05:48 were ended up looking lame or corny or whatever until we land on the thing that's right so it's kind of the same thing with figuring out the role was kind of trial and error of what what would work what would what feels right yeah you know what changed in your approach from season one to season two. That's an interesting question. I think that I well like like you were saying like did you see see it from the beginning did you know like the world from the beginning and right right honestly no because when we started shooting in like November of 2020 none of us totally knew and Ben had like you walked onto the set and you were like oh this is like a whole world this is a world that we're stepping into here the production design uh the Jeremy so
Starting point is 00:06:44 brilliantly amazing amazing and and the cinematography and everything and the the wardrobe and all that stuff so we're like okay and then as we started shooting we were all sort of finding the tone together Ben leading the way and like let's let's try that but maybe do this to it and kind of finding this parallel kind of universe and the culture of this company and how people talk to each other and their specific kind of nomenclature of the world and how that affects the tone. It took a while to kind of zero in on that. So anyway, coming back for season two, that was all set and we all understood it and got it. So it was a completely different experience coming back because we all could just hit the ground running and we weren't sort of testing the waters on everything because it's such a specific world that it took us a while to really find it in season one.
Starting point is 00:07:46 What physical choices did you make between any mark and outy mark? Yeah. Because I noticed watching the show, there's like there's like subtle differences between the two of them. And it's so, it was so dope to see in season two the scene where you're doing the camcorder and you're talking back to yourself. Yeah. Like I was like, yo, Adam is a master. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:13 Like he's just an incredible actor. Like this, like you see in each flip back, it's like, it's you, but it's two, it's two different energies. Right, right, right. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So like, like, what are the little intricacies and the little. different things that you put in there. Well, thanks for saying that.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I think that where I ended up landing when I was trying to figure it all out, I wanted to find the quickest simplest way, just as a starting point. And then there's all kinds of accoutremen stuff to figure out from there. But I wanted to find like a really simple, like almost like starting mark for the character, starting, I meant like a Mark that you start from and then the character's name is actually Mark. So that's, uh, um, and so I started working from a place of like maybe the innie, because he's kind of new to the world and has a lot of faith in the world that is as he knows it.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Right. Has a lot of belief and that needed to over season one get shattered a little bit. Right. Once Helly kind of starts showing him the world as it is rather than it. And so and then the Audi mark is a shattered person, a broken person who's lost faith and lost belief with everything. Yeah. And that reflects directly on how he feels about himself is pushing everything away because he's really stuck. he can't move on from this tragedy that happened a couple of years ago.
Starting point is 00:09:56 So I sort of started approaching it from maybe any mark is an accumulation of everything of everything that I like about myself, me, Adam, and Audi Mark is everything I dislike and am embarrassed about myself. And like maybe each is a manifestation of those things, just to try and find a personal place to start. And so any Mark had good posture and, you know, kind of speaks clearly and is very presentational and very kind of performative in some ways. And Audi Mark has bad posture like I do.
Starting point is 00:10:39 And I'm always embarrassed about it if I see a photo. And I'm just like, why do I do that? And it's all about, for me, bad posture is all about like how I feel about. about myself in any given moment, you know? Right. So those were kind of the starting places. And then I went, kind of went from there. I think any mark, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:02 I remember as a kid, a really distinct memory of mine as my mom sort of calling me on this performative tick I had, which was when I would speak to someone that I was trying to impress or trying to show a certain side of me, my voice would get higher. I remember her being like, your voice changes when you talk to this person or that person. And I remember being really embarrassed about it and really defensive about it, but realizing that she was right, there is like a higher register when I'm like trying to, you know, right, I don't know, make a good impression, I guess is probably what it comes down to. And so that
Starting point is 00:11:51 there's a very subtle difference in the register of how they speak because Audi Mark is again kind of like beaten down and has this kind of a lower register anyway those were kind of places where I started well it was a beautiful performance oh thanks man thank you to see the from season one to season two just to see the season two just like took everything up yeah like to the next fucking level oh cool and like I wanted to ask you like what's the frame of mind going into season three yeah have you guys even have you read anything like I know you can't tell me anything I don't want to spoil anything yeah yeah yeah you know because I am a fan I'd be really upset if you're like I start off like spoiled it all right now what a bummer oh my god
Starting point is 00:12:40 but just just let me know like what like what is your frame of mind going into season three yeah I mean I'm really excited I think we all are because it's already been two years since we finished shooting season two. So we're all ready to get back. It's making the show as an all-encompassing endeavor, for sure. It's not an easy show to make, but I think that's why we all love it so much
Starting point is 00:13:10 is because it's a big challenge. There's no simple scene on the show. Everything is a bit of a puzzle. And for me, that's why I love this show and why it's the most fulfilling creative experience I've had is because everything about it is its own little mountain to climb, you know? Yeah. And it requires all of us and all of our focus. And it's super fun, but it's also, you know, challenging. Yeah, it's fucking intense shit.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's, I think we're all excited to get to New York and start shooting and we're going to, we're going to start soon. Nice. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I'm going to be texting. Good. texting you like or hitting you up on IG like, okay, so I saw the first episode. You should come to the set. If you're in New York, you should come check it out. Bro, don't do me like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%.
Starting point is 00:14:11 You should come check it out. I'm going to put on a suit. Please do. I'm put on a suit. We can run down a hallway together. Bro, I would love it. I would love it. That would be fun.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Yeah. To just shoot the whole, and then to have the come out of the elevator and have the camera go like, yeah, that's right. Can do it all. Oh, man. So this show is called Big Bro. Let's take it back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:32 I really want to know, like, what you were like as a kid. That's interesting. What was young Adam like? I went through a lot of different, everyone does go through different stages. But I think in adolescence when I like started hitting. puberty like 12 13 years old i had a tough time because i was suddenly i meet my awkward stage what i was overweight suddenly i was a bigger kid for like three years from like sixth grade till eighth grade right um which is which is a tough time for any kid right that's a really
Starting point is 00:15:11 when you're starting to try and define yourself socially and i remember seeing stand by me, it came out when I was that age, the same age as those kids. So that movie really hit me hard, and I really paralleled and related to the Jerry O'Connell character. But because I was socially not the most popular kid on campus, I really kind of dove into TV and movies. That's kind of all I thought about and all I cared about. And that just kind of became more and more important to me. And that was the era of Back to the Future in Indiana Jones and all that stuff. Classic bangers.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Oh, man. Every, you think about like the summer of any year in the mid-80s and it was just insane. Just bangers. Like Back to the Future and the Goonies came out in the same summer. Yeah, man. Et, when did ET come out? 85? 82.
Starting point is 00:16:13 82? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, so I was born in 84, but I, it's funny too because at that time, everything felt new, I feel like it just came out when I saw it. Yeah, sure. But some things were out for years. Well, that's a wild thing is you watch ET now and it still feels fresh.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Yeah. It's still just unbelievable. That's the first movie I saw by myself. Like, I had seen it so many times that no one would go with me to see it anymore. more. So I was begging my mom to bring me to E.T. one more time. And she was like, you know what? You're nine years old. You go by yourself. You can go to the movies. Go to the matinee. Yeah. And I rode my bike, locked it outside the theater, and went and saw E.T. by myself. That's so dope. I was like, this is the greatest thing ever. Yeah, that's so dope. I can do this. I can do, this is a thing.
Starting point is 00:17:06 So that became a thing that I loved doing too. I know you're a big music fan. Yeah. What are some of the bands that you loved growing up? And also, it's a two-part question. Like, what were some of your favorite bands? And also, like, who did you see live? That was, like, the best live performance ever.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Well, my first concert was the Us Festival, which was I was a kid. It was like 1983 or something. Uh-huh. And the line, it was like a three-day festival like Coachella, but, and it was, man, the lineup was crazy. It was the clash. Oh shit. And Van Halen. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:47 With David Lee Roth. Stray cats, men at work. Nice. You two was like a little band. They were there. John Mellencamp. God, Tom Petty, I think. Anyway, it was this crazy thing.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And I was a little kid. So that was, that was, it was a big impression on me. I was seeing these, these bands and being on my dad's shoulders watching, uh, the English beat and Ozzy Osbourne. And it was just crazy. And it wasn't until though, a little later, my brother really got me into like classic rock when I was like 14. He was like, this is, you know, lead zeppelin, like showing me lead Zeppelin and just being like,
Starting point is 00:18:33 whoa. you onto the wizards. Holy shit, man. This is crazy. And then discovering the Beatles kind of on my own and really getting into that. And then I started sort of zeroing in on my own taste. I got really into REM and U2 talking heads. Like I was really into these bands.
Starting point is 00:18:58 And I don't know what it was about it. Wyatt so captured my imagination, but going and seeing like Tom Petty or R.E.M. Live in an arena. Oh, you saw R.M. Live in an arena? Yeah. In 89. Yeah. I mean, I ended up seeing them so many times, but it was that first time in 89 that it really blew my mind. Did you ever see Nirvana? No. And you know what? In 91, me and my friends were going all the
Starting point is 00:19:30 the time to the Catalyst and Santa Cruz to all ages shows go see Henry Rollins and all these bands and Dinosaur Jr. was playing with Nirvana opening. Yeah. And I was like, I know, I was a senior in high school and I just decided the last minute I didn't want to, I wasn't going. And I didn't go. All my friends went and saw Nirvana and Dinosaur Jr. like one, one, maybe it was like six months before Nevermind came out. Wow. Yeah. And I remember them being like, dude, this band, Nirvana is really good. Yeah. And it turns out they were right.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yeah, I just, when you were talking about different concerts that you've been to, I was just like, oh, man, I wonder if you saw Kurt live. Oh, I wish. You know, like, and I go into a deep dive on YouTube and just watch all these old performances. I just yesterday saw their first Saturday night live performance again. Oh, that was the first time seeing it. No, I'd seen it back in the day, but so great. Yeah. They were fucking great, man.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I mean, that was one of the things like that was in the front of my mind when I performed on SNL for the first time. I was like Nirvana played here. Whoa, really? Yeah, I bet. Yeah, out of all the artists that have been on that stage, like Nirvana, Kurt was right here. Did you feel the weight of that moment? Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:52 On that stage. I was terrified. I bet you did. I bet. Terrified. And because SNL is a very specific beast. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:00 The fact that it's live is like the nerve-wracking. Like, I performed on Fallon many times. Kimmel. Sure. David Letterman when he was around. That was my first late night, you know, all pre-recorded. Yep. But it's, you got one chance.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Dude. One chance. And you fuck up. I know, man. Everyone is seeing. Everyone. And it'll be a news item. And it'll be immortalized.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Like if your pants fall down and you train. rip over yourself and fall off the stage. That will be... That's going on NBC. It's going on NBC and it will be played over and over again for as long as you live. Yeah. So how did you focus up and swerve away from those, like, is it just like you just focus on the song and go? Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Well, I really wanted to, because like I said, I had already had in my mind like, on Nirvana and all these other great bands have performed here. I don't know if there's, I mean, I'm pretty sure there's a history of bad SNL performances, but like, for the most part, everybody I see on SNL comes with it. Yeah. You know, so I knew that I had to come with it and I'm a very, I get very serious and very focused. Yeah. And I performed, the first time I performed on SNL, it was with Kanye. So that was a little bit easier because I had, it was me, my home girl show,
Starting point is 00:22:28 that's on the song and then Kanye, so it was three of us on stage. Yeah. So I had energy to play off. For a first time, that's great. Yeah. But the second time I performed on there, it was me by myself. I was like, this has to be, like, this is my moment. This is like, for me, SNL, being on SNL was like the biggest thing you can do.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Yeah. You know what I mean? In the performance space or for TV, you know what I mean? And I had been wanting this opportunity for the longest. Yeah. And I finally got it. The universe gave it to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And it was like, you have to fucking show up. This has to be perfect. Exactly. Yeah. You know? So, and looking at the tapes now on YouTube and stuff, like seeing the performances, like, I'm so happy that, well, first off, I'm happy that they were well received. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:19 And I'm happy with my vocal performance. But, like, you see that, like, I'm confident. Yeah. in what I'm doing. Good. You know what I mean? My body language, my, my voice, everything is strong. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:32 You know? Good. But yeah, I just kept thinking in the head like Nirvana played here. I got to fucking show up. Oh, that's incredible, man. You were in the R.E.M. video when you were 18, right? I was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Yeah. I got to do a little research on you. Yeah. Tell me how the fuck that happened. Like, what the fuck? Oh, my God. That's so funny. I, me and my friend, I'm from Santa Cruz, which is up in Northern.
Starting point is 00:23:56 in California and I was on the in between years at school and we I think there was on the radio or something like call in this number and you might be able to be an extra in this music video and we were like dude we're doing this and we all piled into a car and drove to L.A. And yeah. From L.A. from where? From Santa Cruz, which is up like near San Francisco. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And it was so fun. And we drove down here and I guess for two or three, nine. We were, because the video is Michael Stipe being carried around like crowd surfing. And I'm just one of the people in the crowd. So we were all like background extras in the video. But they were like, you know, the biggest band in the world and all of our favorite bands. So we're there looking at these guys making their music video and just, you know, that first time you really see one of the people that you just can't believe they're there. It was wild.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Yeah. It was kind of my first experience with that but also really fun. But for years I could never find myself in the crowd of people but a couple years ago a fan actually spotted me in the crowd so. Oh no way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No way. That's so dope.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Yeah. Did you ever play music as a kid or do you ever picking a music? No. I really wish I did. I really wish I knew how to how to play anything or sing or anything. I just can't, I can't do any of it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I just never, I feel like it's not a second nature. Like, did you, you must, was it something that you just started doing? Or was it purposeful that you went in and focused on music? Sports was the first thing and I was terrible at every sport. Uh-huh. And that's what made me lean into my artsy side. Sure, sure. I mean, because like my father passed when I was 11.
Starting point is 00:25:52 So I didn't really have like the father figure to kind of like teach me. you ought to be a man and I thought, oh, boys play sports. It makes them tough. Like, I guess I'll learn them play sports and I'll try to join the team. But I was just terrible. Yeah. Like I just did not have athletic ability. Yeah, you didn't have a facility.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Same with me. Yeah. Yeah. PE class was hell because I couldn't do it. I didn't know. Yeah, it was not great. Yeah. So I kind of, that's when I was.
Starting point is 00:26:26 started to lean into the music and it found me around, I'd say, 15, 16 is when I started to like really think about, oh, like, I can have a career doing this, you know? It was funny, man. The early days when I was trying to focus on music, like when I was a kid, like it was a lot of just freestyle in the cafeteria and just like out in the neighborhood, rapping with my friends on the porch. And then as I, when I went to college,
Starting point is 00:26:54 This is when I recorded my first demo. And when you were doing that, when you were freestyling in the cafeteria, was it like, oh, shit, I'm the best at this? No. I mean, my freestyle game was nice, but I don't think I like, like, we could all hang, like me and my friends in the group. But I would imagine you were the best at your school, right? No, no.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I mean, I was nice, but I wasn't like the best. There was other dudes. There was this one dude that could freestyle and he sounded like fucking bone thugs in harmony. Wow. Like fast like that and it was all freestyle. We would just be like, what the fuck, you know? What happened to him? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:30 What happened to him? I know he's probably looking at my career like, fuck. So totally pissed. He's like stalking me from afar, like trying to get close. But that's the thing. You have to, you can be able to do that and that's great. But everything else you have to do in order to turn that into a career. it's, you know, you have to have that fire and that ambition to make that happen to use that thing, right?
Starting point is 00:27:59 Yeah. I mean, for me, it was, it was, uh, once I've kind of moved to New York when I was 20 to pursue music, the fire was lit. Yeah. Like as soon as I left my mom in the airport and I got on the plane and I was finally a man on my own. Yeah. The fire was lit. Yeah. And I was literally on the plane thinking about it like I was crying because I was leaving home for the first time. And I was finally, I went to the University of Toledo for a year and that's like two hours away from Cleveland. So it wasn't like too far. Sure. I could drive home on the weekends.
Starting point is 00:28:29 But New York is like, you know what I mean? So I remember being on the plane and like crying, I was like, I have to do this. Yeah. Like I have to succeed in my mission. Yeah. Like I really want this. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:28:49 And like my thing was like, okay, I'm going to make a package. with God and I'll say like I'll meet you halfway. Yeah. Like you do your you do your part and I'm gonna do my part and we'll meet in the middle. You know what I mean? So like a lot of people that knew me early in those years would have possibly called me delusional. Mm-hmm. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:10 You know, I really, I really didn't. But don't you think you have to be a little delusional? Oh yeah. To tell yourself the fable that because I remember when a career finally started coming together me, I was like, oh, this is what having an actual career is. What the fuck have I been doing? So I was telling myself a story that everything was good and I was doing great just to keep myself going, keep myself afloat, not even realizing that I was like, like it was being
Starting point is 00:29:45 held together by like, you know, scotch tape and dental floss. Like there was no real career there yet. I just had to keep it together and keep going. Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does. Yeah. So, but you got to New York and you were just like, this has to work.
Starting point is 00:30:03 I have to do it. Yeah, there was like, there was no plan B. Right. This is the only option. Right. Yeah. You know? And I had nothing to lose.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Yeah. You know what I mean? College wasn't my thing. Yeah. I didn't want my mom to waste their money. Yeah. I really didn't even want to finish up. We went to, went home for winter break,
Starting point is 00:30:23 and I didn't even want to go back to finish. Yeah. But I was like, my mom was like, just go and like, finish up. Don't waste my money. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I was all right, I'll go and do this. But that whole rest of that time,
Starting point is 00:30:36 I was just plotting on, you know, coming back home and trying to figure out this music thing. Yeah. You know. And were you looking at other artists out there, ones you respected and ones you were kind of looking at being like, I think I can do better than that. Like, I can, I can be, like, I don't know if, I don't know if it was ever thought of,
Starting point is 00:30:56 like, I can do better than that. Because, like, when you're, when you're starting out, you think that these people are so, like, mega. Yeah. Like, you're so impressed by, like, a Kanye or Forreal or Andre D.000 that you're just like, I can't do that. Yeah. But, like, I was definitely, like, I can, I can be on the level.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Yeah. I think I can do that. Yeah. Yeah. I think, and, like, when I first started working with Kanye, you know, I never, I never, I never fan out over him. Yeah. You know, I was like at that point once I was signed, I was all we're equals. Yeah. I never like, even though he was older than me, I was like, he was my big bro. Yeah. But I was like now we're, we're on the same playing field. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like this is. Yeah, we're
Starting point is 00:31:35 now peers. Yeah, exactly. Like you have to function that way or you're not going to be able to do your best work, right? Yeah. And they honored me in that way. They honored me like a peer. Yeah. You know, and they supported me. And that was very helpful early in my career, like having, you know, the good music crew and, you know, the support I had, everybody just really, it was like, we love Cutty. Yeah. You know, it was just, I was like the young black sheep of the crew. You know, I kind of kept to myself.
Starting point is 00:32:05 It was very, like, quiet. And like, when everybody was around talking, I'd be, like, in a corner, quiet, smoking my weed. Yeah. But everybody was super supportive, man. And that was really great to have early on in my career. Because now I don't have many alliances. Right. You know, and that's just over time, just learning that people are who they are and the
Starting point is 00:32:26 businesses, whatever, and people are not real friends. It's all transactional. But I find that over time I have, like, a few good people in the industry that I connect with, you know? And that's better than having, like, 20 motherfuckers that I'm connected with in the industry, you know? Yeah. I have, like, a good five.
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Starting point is 00:33:38 All right, back to the vibes. We have to talk about Stepbrothers. Yeah. That is one of my favorite comedies And that's when I discovered you Oh really? Yeah And that's when I discovered you And I discovered Captain Hahn
Starting point is 00:33:51 And Anchorman And this came after But this is when I discovered That she was a fucking star Dude right And tell me about like Tell me about what it was like Playing Derek this like asshole
Starting point is 00:34:04 Like bro you were so believable I was like worried that you were like a dick Fuck that guy that guy sucks the worst the worst he was the worst man he was the worst
Starting point is 00:34:19 and in like the one scene where he's like you want to punch me right now yeah I can see it in your eyes you wanna fucking punch me in the face was that you that fell out the tree house
Starting point is 00:34:30 no okay that was a stunt man okay I was like okay yeah this is legit it looked like it hurt yeah that was a that was a hard fall
Starting point is 00:34:38 that that dude took um Man, I was so, that was so exciting getting Stepbrothers. Oh my God. Yeah. I did not think I would get that part. Yeah. And I think that's probably part of the reason I just went into the audition and just kind of went for it.
Starting point is 00:34:57 It's because I was like, there's no way. Someone had the role and then scheduling they had to bail so they had to cast it pretty quickly. So I got the part. Suddenly I was like, holy shit, I'm in this like Will Ferrell movie. And John C. Riley and Adam McKay was directing. It was big deal. It was so fun. It was kind of terrifying because those guys are like Titans.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Oh, my God. Yeah. And they improvise a lot. And they are like the best improvisers in the world. And I didn't know what I was doing. I never really even been in a comedy before. Right. I couldn't get auditions for like sitcoms and stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Like I just had no kind of comedy credentials whatsoever. Right. So I was there. And so kind of had to learn to figure it out, figure out improvisation on the set of stepbrothers. So I equate it to like learning how to do the high jump at the Olympics, you know? Like it's not it was crazy, but I felt like I went from having no idea what I was doing to by the end of the four months or however long the movie took, I felt like I was starting to get the hang of it. I think it was like a dinner scene and John Riley and I started improvising about something.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I don't think it's even in the movie, but we just started kind of going back and forth and kind of just flowing. and you're not even thinking about it, you're just going. And that was like towards the end of the shoot. And I remember after cut, John C. Riley was like, all right, that was fun. Like, wasn't that cool? That was fun, right? I was like, yeah, man. And so working that way where you're either improvising or, you know, McKay would yell jokes out from the monitors.
Starting point is 00:37:04 and it was just a lot of, it was a completely different, I had never even thought about working that way. Like, oh, we just try a bunch of stuff. Yeah. Just throw it all against the wall. Just fuck around. Have fun.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Fuck around. And then use the bits that are great. Yeah. You don't have to use. Like I was always like so precious about what I was doing and trying to get everything right. But if you just let go a little bit and just, have fun, then there will be usable great bits in there.
Starting point is 00:37:39 And so after, you know, doing that movie, I was like, oh, my God, I never want to go back. This is, this is like where it's at. And watching those guys for a few months was really kind of turned everything upside down in my head. Well, what was one of your favorite memories working with Will Ferrell and Johnson Riley? Like what was one of the coolest moments on set? You know, it was really fun is my nephew was, he was like 11 years old or something. And I brought him to the set. It wasn't even a day I was working.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I just wanted him to, you know, Will Ferrell and was his hero. And so I brought him to the set. And we got to watch them shooting the guy's sleepwalking, when they're sleepwalking and just like knocking shit over. it. So funny. But watching them try it every which way. Like by the time they were done with that scene, they had done it all. They had knocked everything over. Like, you know, just kind of using what's in front of you and figuring it out and not being precious about anything, it really, I feel like every few years, at least for me, I reevaluate what I'm doing and why I'm doing it. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:58 And there, I've hit some walls over the years where I'm like, am I still like, is there still something for me to add to this? Right. Like, what am I, why am I doing this? And that was a moment where I was starting to feel that way. And then stepbrothers came along. And I was like, oh, wow, yeah, the possibilities are kind of endless. Like, you can do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Like, these were guys that weren't going by any rules. They were just going after jokes and laughs. and creativity and having fun and enjoying themselves. And that was a big, a big lesson for me. There's so many memorable quotes in that movie. Yeah, yeah. What is your favorite line from that film? Oh, man, that's a good question.
Starting point is 00:39:46 I love the, what is it? I haven't had a carb since 2004. Like, that was an improvisation. of mine, even though I was like, didn't know what I was doing, I managed to come up with that. Some magic. Yeah. I love when the guys, when John and Will are just getting to, like, falling in love with each other and, like, figuring out that they both love John Stamos. They both, I love that scene where they're, like, finishing each other's sentences and being like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Like, we're best friends. Of course. Yeah. It's just so fun. It's so deeply funny. Like, it's the kind of movie that if I wasn't in it, it's exactly what I would be watching, you know, 25 times. Yeah. You know, it's so great.
Starting point is 00:40:45 I can't believe I'm in it still. Yeah. I'll feel you, bro. I have moments like that, too. And there was this TV show I did, my first TV show. It was an HBO show, my first job. and it lasted two seasons. It was called How to Make It in America.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, like, I really, when I got that job, like, it's still to this day one of the most, I'm the most proud of that show. Yeah. Because it was my first thing. Yeah. That was a good show.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Yeah, I fucking nailed it. Yeah. Like, I came on set. I was just supposed to be, I just had a little bit in the pilot. I was supposed to be back in the rest of the season. But as the episodes went, they were seeing my strength, like what I was good at.
Starting point is 00:41:34 And, you know, the execs would be like, we want more cutty. We want more cutty. We want more cutty. Put them in, you know? And it was just such a dope thing to like kind of have that support and have them, like, giving me more stuff because I'm doing a good job. And, like, you know, that for me was, you know, I was watching. I was showing my wife how to make a nice.
Starting point is 00:41:56 in America because she hadn't seen it. Yeah. And just rewatching the episodes after like, what, it's been like 15 years, 16 years as I've seen it. It was just crazy. I was just so proud that I was a part of this show. Yeah. You know, because this was, this is monumental for me.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Like I didn't, like I always wanted to act. And it's interesting that you mentioned Stand By Me. Stand By Me was the first movie I saw that made me want to be an actor. Oh, is it? As a kid, I saw it when I was young. And I was like, wow, these kids are like doing what I dream of doing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:27 And doing like really emotional, incredible stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Like really powerful shit. Well, I think it's such a big deal when you're in a situation like that and there's encouragement and you see that things are clicking a bit and people are reacting to you in a positive way. Like asking for you to be in the show more.
Starting point is 00:42:51 And it feels great when things are sort of coming together. And you know that you're that you're connecting and things are working. Because leading up to that, you know, there's, I've been on lots of jobs and situations where I was like, this isn't work. What am I doing wrong? But feeling like it's all kind of working is it's a great feeling and you'll never forget it. Yeah, yeah. Now, we want to talk about how you're a scream king. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:43:24 Scream King is like, you know, like a scream queen. Oh, right. Okay. You know, but you're a guy. Scream King. Scream King. I talked about Kramper's with you out in the hallway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Right. Phenomenal film. You have this new movie. I just saw the trailer. Yeah. Hokem. Looks terrifying. It's scary.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Like gnarly. Yeah. Like. It's scary. It's legitimately scary. We just showed it at South by Southwest. And- Which is a great crowd. Great crowd.
Starting point is 00:43:58 So my crowd. Oh my God. Yeah. Great crowd. People were screaming in the theater. Wow. I mean, it's really scary. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:09 It's terrific. I'm so proud of it. Man, I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm gonna try to get to the premiere. Cool. Yeah, please do. Check it out.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Yeah. Are you, so would you say like you dabble in horror? Would you say that you grew up a horror fan? Yeah. I mean, when I was growing up, up it was like Friday the 13th movies were a big deal. I remember Halloween being a particularly scary movie early on. I think, uh, and I still think it's, it's one of the scarier, one of the great movies, John Carpenter's incredible. The thing was a really big deal. It's a great thing. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:44:47 It's so scary. I remember watching that as a kid. Me too. What the fuck. Me too. It scared the shit out of it. And that's one of the reasons why I love. It's a great movie. It's a great movie. It's I still love practical effects. Oh, me too. Like it's just this. And that's, Hocum is practical. Oh, nice. Nice.
Starting point is 00:45:03 It's great. And that's rare because a lot of people, and some people do like a mix of both, like digital and practical. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I love when I'm walking on the set and I actually see like a severed head or like, you know, I mean, like the actual shit. It makes such a difference. Yeah. For the audience too.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Yeah. Not that digital effects can't be. super effective as well. Yeah. Yeah, the thing and Halloween and the Friday 13th movies, not all of them. Have you ever seen any of those? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I feel like those probably haven't aged as well, but they're- Where Jason takes Manhattan has. Doesn't Jason go to space at a particular point? Yes, he does go to space. And unfortunately, I saw that too. You did? You saw that one? I watched even the bad ones too, man.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Oh, me too. Like, if it's Jason, like, I'm going to check it out. Have you seen Freddy versus Jason? No, I never saw that. Bro, that movie's ridiculous. It's crazy that I never saw that. Bro, you have to check that out. Who wins?
Starting point is 00:46:02 I don't want to give it away. Okay. Just watch it. I feel like there should be a movie where it's Freddy versus Jason and Alien versus Predator and they should all get in a ring and just fuck each other up. Just like a foursome. Oh, yeah. That would be amazing.
Starting point is 00:46:17 But there's been great horror films in the last. And it's a pretty consistent. Like, I feel like Hereditary was a real high point too. That's a frightening, beautiful movie. Yeah. And so deeply scary. So, yeah, for me, it's just all about whether it works or not. I mean, I think weapons and get out are incredible films and super scary that.
Starting point is 00:46:46 So I think it's a really exciting time for horror films and suspense thrillers right now. It is. Original films. Definitely, definitely. What was it like preparing for Holcomb as opposed to like severance, for example? Yeah, well, we shot it in the Irish countryside and West Cork. Like out in the middle of nowhere. I mean, not nowhere, but it was in the countryside.
Starting point is 00:47:12 In the cut. And maybe like one of the most beautiful places I've ever been. It's just incredible. but it also really kind of served the feeling of the movie to be out in the countryside. It really kind of put us all in the right time and space for this story. Would you say this movie is more of like thriller or is it like, is there some gore in there? Does it get gnarly in that way? Yeah, I would say it's a horror movie.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Okay. It's scary. Okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. Cool. I'm locked in.
Starting point is 00:47:51 That's all I need to know. Okay, good. All need to know. Yeah, you should come to the premiere screening or something, I think you'll. I would love to. I would love to, man. I would love to. And, you know, it's a great joy to go to the theater and see a horror movie.
Starting point is 00:48:09 I think those are some of the best movies to see in the theater. Me too. And I think with a group of people, it's like comedy. It's like laughing and being scared are both. involuntary reactions and there's nothing more fun than experiencing that with a group of people you know yeah yeah what makes someone a great scene partner in a horror movie i think no matter what it is that you're doing i think a great scene partner is someone that's attuned to what you're doing and as long as you're attuned to what they're doing i mean the thing you don't want
Starting point is 00:48:48 is to feel like someone that you're acting with is inflexible. And they're just, they've figured out what they want to do in the scene. And they're going to do that no matter what. And it doesn't matter what you do. They're on their track and they know what they want to do in front of the camera. Rather than allowing each other to be connected and finding the scene together. And that's what I find. when you that that's the road to the most interesting and best scene is two people who are
Starting point is 00:49:26 prepared know all their shit but are also once they sit down for the scene ready to throw it all out and just see where it goes yeah not even thinking about improvising or anything just letting the the vibe of the scene and because it's it's one thing if it's if it's just a person like by themselves once another person enters the room and is in a scene with you you have to be attuned to each other in order for it to function and be interesting yeah i did a movie last summer a hard movie um my second one or no my third one has it come out yeah no it doesn't it comes out uh later this year at a festival at tiff oh cool um it's called god backwards great this is exclusive no one knows about this movie i just i just unbilled the top
Starting point is 00:50:18 But it's me and Jessica Roth. She's terrific. She's amazing. She plays my wife. Cool. And it was great because I got a chance to spend a lot of time. Like we had two months before we were shooting. We were supposed to shoot earlier in the year and then it kept getting pushed back.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Yeah. So me and Jess just had so much time to like kick it and hang out and just like, watch a movie or like go get dinner or just like work through the scenes and like talk and get the noise. like talk and get to know each other. Yeah. So when we arrived on set, we were so locked in. Yeah, man. Even when we were doing improv, we were so locked in.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Yeah. And it was beautiful. And I told her when we first, when we first met, I was like, I want to make like our connection strong. Yeah. So when we shoot this, like, this is easy for us. Like, we're not on, on set searching for anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Makes all the difference, right? You know what I mean? Like, because I don't think I, the movie is so intense. there's no way I could have did it without just being connected with me in that way. Sure. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:23 And she was just the best, the best scene partner for the type of heavy shit we had to do. Yeah. Like, it was crazy. And this is a movie that I'm gonna keep you informed about when it comes out and I want you to see it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:38 And I might get to edit or when the edits finish, I'll send it to you. I'll email it to you. Please do. Because this is my first lead role. I've been doing mostly supporting roles my whole career. Yeah. It is my best work.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Oh, that's great, man. You know what I mean? Like, I really went hard because I knew this was a big deal for me to leave my own film. Yeah. You know what I mean? And being the number one on the call sheet. That's never happened before, you know? So I really made sure to like just leave my heart out there and just give it my all.
Starting point is 00:52:10 That's great, man. It's some really heavy shit. It's a sad movie. It's very, you know, some horror movies. You never really, like, you rarely watch a horror movie and like cry. Yeah. Like when somebody dies in a horror movie, it's like you go into the movie knowing there's going to be some death.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Yeah. Like there's going to be some killing. So you're not like emotionally, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like even if like somebody's sister gets killed or whatever, whatever. People are going to die. Yeah. You know, you understand that.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Yeah. Right. But with this movie, with our movie, it is just heartbreaking in a lot of ways. where it's going to be hard for people not to get emotional. Yeah, good. And that's one thing I'm proud of about our movie is that it has, it tugs at your heartstrings. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:52:57 And that's unique for a horror film. Exactly, exactly. Hocom's a very emotional story too. It's about trauma and all this stuff wrapped up in this horror package. And I feel like that's part of what makes it interesting. Right. That's what it sounds like with this, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:15 That's great. I can't wait to see it. I gotta put you on. She's Jessica's really, really good. Jessica is amazing. She's amazing. And she's an even more amazing human being. She was at South by Southwest too.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Oh, yeah, yeah. She told me she went. Yeah, that's dope. That's dope. Yeah, I was just texting her the other day because we're actually doing, we're shooting new scenes for our movie. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:53:37 We're adding another element to it. And I don't want to give it away. Well, all right, I'm talking too much. I'm talking too much. No, no. But I'm going to get, when this movie is done, when we have a final cut, I'm going to make sure you get this. Yeah. And you see it.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Dude, send it to me. Yeah, you'd love to see it. This next part of the show is the wrap up. Yeah. Right? Where I ask rapid fire questions. Okay. You just shoot me straight.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Yeah. Okay. Between severance, parks, and wreck, party down, you've had a lot of iconic workplace roles. Yeah. What's the worst job you've had before acting? Now, I know you've had some jobs. Yeah. I've had some doozies.
Starting point is 00:54:18 I had a job where I was going to be a waiter at a restaurant, and I won't say the name of the place. It's fine. It's like a popular chain? Yeah. And. Is it Appleby's? No, it was Johnny Rockets? Oh.
Starting point is 00:54:33 I don't even, is Johnny Rockets still a thing? Yeah, Johnny Rock is. Yeah, I still go there sometimes. All right. So wonderful establishment, but they brought me in. Not the shit on Johnny Rockets right now. And they were showing me like, this is where you. You've got to go over here, you know, like showing me the ropes of the job.
Starting point is 00:54:49 And I was like, oh, man, okay. And then about an hour into the job, the person that was training me, a song came on the jukebox. And they're like, oh, sorry, excuse me. And they hopped up on the kind of counter and started like doing a dance with everyone else on staff. And like going. And then the song finishes and he jumps down.
Starting point is 00:55:13 He's like, okay. So anyway, we got a, and I was like, what, what was that? And he's like, oh, well, there's like two or three songs. When they come on, we all have to join in. It's, you know, it's kind of a bummer, but, you know, you get into it after a while. And I was like, I feel like that's just a step in the wrong direction. Like, that's too much humiliation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:40 And so after I was fully trained that day, I just never went back. It was kind of a dick move. And I had the apron and the hat and everything. I never went back. That's so funny, man. But that's probably not the worst. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:55 But that was a bad one. Yeah. I used to be a telemarketer for like a week. Okay. But I was the most chill telemarketer. Not interested in selling things. Well, you know, it's like when somebody's like showing that they're not interested, it's like, okay, bye.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Yeah. Because, you know, telemarketers is like, they tell you that you have to keep them on the phone. Yeah, of course. That's like the main thing. Like, don't let them hang up. Right. And I'd always be like, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:17 I remember this one time I called this dude. It was like seven o'clock at night. I called this one dude. He picks up. He's like, hello. I'm like, hey, is this Mr. Johnson or whatever? He's like, this is him. I was like, hey, how are you doing, Mr. Johnson?
Starting point is 00:56:30 I want to talk to you about, you know, your mortgage and, you know, refinancing and blah, blah, blah. And he's like, let me ask you a question. How would you feel if I called your house at 7 o'clock a night while your head? dinner and just interrupted you while you were watching your favorite TV show. Yeah. He was pissed. I was like, you're right. I'll have a nice night.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Fair point. So I had no sales. Yeah. Like everybody else was getting sales and making connections and stuff, having callbacks. Yeah. I went a week, got no callbacks. Yeah. And they were just like, this is not your thing.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Yeah. You can't do this. But I hated it. I'm sure. Like, I'm calling people like a thousand people a day. Oh, God. Just like sitting there in a room one. room this fucking it's it's so brutal
Starting point is 00:57:17 job definitely yeah definitely i don't i would never recommend my daughter being a telemarketing no you know i remember i made sandwiches at a place and someone came in undercover from corporate headquarters to like great us and i got the worst score of anyone in the place oh my god yeah yeah man i hate when they do they send the secret shoppers like to try to do the little tests and shit i'm working I worked at Dina DeLuca in New York back in the day. And they would always say, like, so make sure you're on your shit
Starting point is 00:57:51 because they have secret shoppers coming through. And I was like, yeah. Like, fuck you. Exactly. You're not paying me enough to care about a secret shopper. I work in the coffee candy in that section. Okay? Come on.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Come on. This is, this is, I'm eating all this candy. It's a Swedish fish. This is a coffee. Exactly. We definitely had Swedish fish. We definitely had the herbal gummies and shit. Dean and Duluca's Swedish fish.
Starting point is 00:58:19 It's pretty good. Yeah, man. And I was, I had my jars, had all the candies. And I had people come and I put them in the bag and weigh it. Sure. You know, the whole thing. I worked at Santa Cruz as an amusement park and I worked making saltwater taffy. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:58:36 At the boardwalk when I was like 13 years old. Okay. So you and Craig Robinson play paranormal. ghost hunters. That's right. Do you believe in ghosts? Is this like a thing or is this just a role? I don't. I don't believe in ghosts. Really? Yeah. Really? Yeah. And I feel like I'm sort of in the minority there. Like I feel like I'm missing something, but I don't. I find it frightening when I see it in movies and stuff. But I don't know. I feel like I would have seen something by now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever had a parent?
Starting point is 00:59:13 paranormal experience? I can't say the closest paranormal experience I've had. I was saying, well, first off, okay, so I was staying at the Chateau Mama. Yeah. We're just haunted. It's got to be haunted. If anything's going to be haunted, it's a Chateau Marmont. Haunted, definitely, right?
Starting point is 00:59:32 I had this bungalow there. That must have been so fun. Yeah, it was dope. I was like throwing parties there. I was going through a breakup, needed to release. Oh, how fun. That was, tell me you had a black. I had a ball.
Starting point is 00:59:44 I had a ball. But this one, this, there was this fireplace, and you know how they have the little metal fence over the fireplace, right? Yeah, yeah, right. And I come down one day, after getting dressed, ready to start my day, and I look at this gate, and I see two handprints of baby hands. What? And it's like ash.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Yeah. On the gate. Yeah. And I looked at it and I was like, and it was legit, like baby hands. Dude. Like, it was crazy. The Chateau Baby. Did a baby, did you ask anyone like, what's up with the baby hands?
Starting point is 01:00:31 No, I just was like, this place is haunted. And I just got another room. Oh, that's wild. I didn't stay there. I'm not one black person in a horror movie that's like, nope. Maybe hands, I'm out. I think once I went into an Airbnb, I was on location for a movie and they got me a house. And I remember I went into the house.
Starting point is 01:00:54 And like I said, I don't believe in ghosts or anything like that. But this house had a vibe. Yeah. And I was like, I can't stay here. Yeah. I have to leave this place right now. Right. Like I put my stuff down and like walked around, went upstairs and looked down this hallway.
Starting point is 01:01:18 And I was like, uh-uh. And I don't know what it was. I couldn't explain it. And I didn't know how to explain to production that I needed to go to a hotel. I didn't want to be like a pain in the ass. But I just knew I couldn't be in that house. It was very weird. I didn't know what it was.
Starting point is 01:01:37 There's spots that you can walk into where you could catch a fucking feeling. Yeah. something feels off. Yeah. You know I mean? Yeah. That's very true. It's, I've definitely been in some places where I just knew, like, something was wrong.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Yeah. In that space. Fuck this three-foot area. This is bad news. What's one thing that you nerd out about that people might be surprised about? Taylor Swift. Love it. I love it.
Starting point is 01:02:04 I can see that. Obviously, she's incredible. But, uh, but I loved that new album. and I feel like she's created like from her early records all the way through the life of showgirl
Starting point is 01:02:20 the newer one, the newest one. It's like she's created this huge breadth of work in a relatively short amount of time and it's super impressive and her songwriting is insane. It's like
Starting point is 01:02:37 we have our own Joni Mitchell but also if Joni Mitchell absorbed Neil Young or something like her songwriting is unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah, maybe that's, I mean, my daughter is the one that got, we both got it. She kind of introduced me to Taylor Swift back like when 1989 came out. We got super into it together. But all her records since then have been incredible.
Starting point is 01:03:01 And the fact that she has a focus on albums and has people, her fans are into, album like there aren't oh i know you just put out a record you know there aren't a lot of uh artists that focus on albums as an individual art form because it's harder than ever to like sell an album but i love that she's one of the people keeping that alive the idea of the album as a statement in and of itself yeah yeah yeah my daughter's a swiftly yeah how old is your daughter my daughter's turning 16 next week all right mine 17 yeah yeah yeah Yeah, so you know how it goes, man. And those teenage, 16 years, 17.
Starting point is 01:03:44 And I remember she gave me, she texted me one day. And she was like, um, daddy, is it possible for you to get tickets for me and my friends to see Taylor? Yeah. And I was just like, oh, yeah. Let me see what I can do. Isn't it great when you can like really get a bullseye? Oh, man. I mean, like, Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 01:04:10 have had me looking like the coolest dad ever. Oh, that's amazing. And it's funny because early on in my career, other people would do that with me. Yeah. They would bring their kids to meet me, and it would be like some big actor or something, and I'll be like a fan of them,
Starting point is 01:04:23 but they're like, oh, my kids love you, man. Like, can they meet you? And it's like, oh, sure. So I, and then they would always say, like, you just made me the coolest parent. And like, I never, like, I understood it in that moment, but I hadn't experienced it myself until like now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:38 You know what I mean? Because like I hit up Taylor's team. We were like, hey, do you have any extra tickets? You know, and they gave us, like, the friends and fam tickets. So it was a good location in the stadium. Yeah. Like.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Was it for the Aeros tour? Yeah. Were you in that tent? She was in, it was like, it was in Chicago. And it was a stadium. It was, I didn't go. Oh, they, but they got to go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:04 I got the tickets for them, you know what I mean. And her, her mom took her in like three or four friends. Oh, fun. You know what I mean? Amazing. So they did a girl's night and just kicked it. But I remember my daughter texting me back. She was like, Dad, you're the best.
Starting point is 01:05:17 And I was just like, yes. Yeah, man. Thank you, Taylor Swift. You know? That's great. What's the best compliment you ever gotten besides me calling you and a master recently? This afternoon? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Oh, man. You know, boy, best compliment. I'm bad with compliments. I was just that was literally going to be my next question. Are you good with compliments? I, I have a tough time with it. I think it has something to do with, you know, having a,
Starting point is 01:05:51 it was a long road for me to find any, any form of success. And so for me, when I hear compliments, I'm always like, really? Like, it's sort of the, I wouldn't want to be a member of a club that would have me as a member,
Starting point is 01:06:08 or however that saying goes. So it's something I'm working on because compliments are terrific, obviously. You should be able to enjoy them. And I sometimes have a problem with it or trouble with it or it's like something I want to avoid. But I think, you know, my kids were never super interested in what I was doing.
Starting point is 01:06:33 They never seen parks and wreck. It's just like a, I think I hear this from a lot of, actors who have kids or it's hard to get them interested and I also see when they're little kids it's weird because their parent is like being shared with other people and so yeah and they don't really fuck with that like my daughter my daughter didn't like that six or seven she didn't like when people came up on us same yeah it was kind of it's it's weird for them like what are you doing with my dad yeah because they only know you as that right don't know this other right life that you have you know right and I didn't know how to navigate that that's
Starting point is 01:07:08 It's not something like there's no, I didn't grow up around show business or anything, right? So when they got into severance and their friends were into severance and they got into it, like, into it, like we're watching it and had questions and loved it. That was a really big deal for me just to have them sort of engaged and had that to connect with them over. They kind of got that I was doing something cool, you know? Yeah, that's dope. That's dope. Yeah. That's so dope.
Starting point is 01:07:44 And oh, man, whatever, like, just hitting you up every day. Like, all right, so that. What happens next? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. I'm like, I can tell you. If you want, I'll tell you. But, you know.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Across all your work in comedy, what made you laugh the hardest? Like watching something I'm in? Yeah, yeah. You know, I think that the person I find the funniest is probably Ken Marino, who's in Party Down with me. I think he might be the funniest person alive. Kim Marino is great. Dude, he is so fucking funny. Just hanging out with him, it's always like I'm go home in pain because I'd been laughing so much.
Starting point is 01:08:28 He's just, he's extraordinary. I think he's the funniest guy around. Nice. What are your top five comedy films of all time? I know this is going to be tough for you to have to think of this right now. Sure. Tutsi. Okay. Defending Your Life.
Starting point is 01:08:45 The Jerk. Oh, nice one. Three Migos. Oh, another nice one. That was my dad's favorite. Dude, that movie. Yeah, that was my dad's favorite. We watched that all the time.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Blues Brothers. I'm thinking, like, as a kid, what did I watch? A thousand. was fire though. Dude, that movie's great. And didn't that movie have, I don't know if it was the first or the second, because they did a sequel. Yeah, they did.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Yeah, but I can't remember, it was the first one that had that car scene with the most car pile up? Yeah. Just cop cars. Yeah, just on top of each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hundreds of them or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:22 It was crazy. And it's like two and a half hours long. It's, they break all the rules of comedy. Like, it's this giant, ridiculous. Like, for the 80s, like, it was like crazy unheard of. Yeah. Yeah. You can just feel the cocaine while you're watching it. Like, what the fuck is going on?
Starting point is 01:09:37 Oh, my God. But it's so big and fun. And, you know, there has to be other comedies that I could come up with. But that's coming to mine now. Nice. Yeah. If you can time travel to see one musician or band in life, in their prime, who would it be? Beetle, like that rooftop performance, the Beatles.
Starting point is 01:10:01 final performance. I think to be there would be really fun. Yeah. What's your biggest moonshot, like a goal or dream of something you haven't accomplished that you want to do in the future? Hmm. I mean, I'm always looking for something to direct. I've come close a couple times and for various reasons just never quite happened.
Starting point is 01:10:27 And I'm always looking for something to direct. a movie and I want to do a movie. So yeah, that's definitely something, something that I'm in because you know, you don't wanna take two years and not acting. Right. Um, uh, but, uh, but yeah, that's definitely something I wanna do.
Starting point is 01:10:50 What would you like to direct most? What genre? Probably something action comedy, maybe. Love that. Love that. Like, Midnight Run is one of my favorite movies. Temple of Doom is one of my favorite movies.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Temple of Doom and Raiders are kind of like action adventure, but they're light on their feet, and there's always room for jokes. And I find that to be a difficult target, but when it works, there's nothing better. Yeah, like for me, the mummy movies. Oh, yeah, the Brendan Fraser ones? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:36 I saw that. I'm super excited. Yeah, yeah, totally excited. That's gonna be dope. That's gonna be great. Last question, who do you think I should have on the show? Who would you recommend? You know, Paul Rudd would be great.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Oh, do you know Paul? Do you know Paul? We got Paul on the list. He's the best. I've never met him. Oh, he's the best. He seems like the greatest guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Aubrey Plaza. Do you know Aubrey? Yes, I know her. She would be a great guest. That's my home girl. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:03 We got Richard Aubrey and Paul. Yeah. We locked in. Make it happen. Yeah. Adam, thank you so much, man. Thank you for having me. This was so fun.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Hell yeah. I'm so glad we got to do this. Hey, thanks for coming through the attic, y'all. Make sure you subscribe on YouTube or wherever you get your podcast and follow the show on social media at Big Brocutty. Until next time, love yourself. Take care of each other. Dream on. Peace.

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