Big Bro with Kid Cudi - Kid Cudi Reveals Untold Stories Behind Man on the Moon with Kanye West, MGMT & Ratatat

Episode Date: August 14, 2026

Yo, welcome back to another episode of Big Bro! In this special episode, I share untold stories behind the creation of my debut album, Man on the Moon: The End of Day. We talk about some of the album...’s most memorable collaborations from Kanye West and MGMT to Drake’s cameos in the Pursuit of Happiness video. Man on the Moon changed my life forever, and I’m excited to take you behind the scenes of the album, the people, and the stories that made it so special. Enjoy! This weeks episode and Ask Big Bro are brought to you by Adobe Acrobat. Check out my PDF Space today!! You can find the transcript of our conversation there plus way more.https://acrobat.adobe.com/link/spaces/urn%3Aaaid%3Asc%3AUS%3Ab0424e55-f9d5-4931-bd5a-95be819cac62 This weeks Big Moment is brought to you by Apple Gift Card. Visit applegiftcard.apple.com to gift one today. Subscribe for new eps of Big Bro launch every Wednesday 🚀 https://www.youtube.com/@BigBroCudiBig Bro is a Wave Original.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for more good vibes, tune in everywhere @bigbrocudi⁠⁠instagram.com/bigbrocudi⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok.com/@bigbrocudi#kidcudi #bigbrocudi Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wave. If you look at the video, Drake's bottle, you can tell he's never cracked open the bottle of champagne. Like, it's not really spraying out. But it still played. Like, I couldn't sleep those two days. Like, I was super nervous. I was like, holy shit. What have I done?
Starting point is 00:00:20 I remember, like, a couple of years later, Kanye, he texts me and he was like, you were right about make her say. Always follow your heart. And I was like, you son of a bitch. What's up, y'all? Welcome back to Big Bro, a wave original. Presented to you by Adobe Akam. It's me, Carter, Big Bro, Moon Man.
Starting point is 00:01:01 And today is a very special episode. I'm going to go through the making of Man on the Moon the end of the day and talk about how everything came about the features, what inspired me, how certain songs were made, and give you some insight. I thought it was important to bring you guys into, you know, what happened behind the scenes and give you some little tidbits that no one knows about. So here we go.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Are you fucking ready? Are you fucking ready? Let's fucking go! Life before my album, Man on the Moon. I was working at the Bayf Store. It was my favorite, my favorite job that I ever had. And I've worked at a lot of different places. A lot of different places, would you like to hear some?
Starting point is 00:01:49 Here they go. I'm going to list them. Wendy's, when I, that was my first job, Wendy's when I was 15. I worked at this movie theater when I was 17 in Cleveland and Solon. That was a lot of fucking fun. I worked at Dean DeLuca in New York. That was while I worked in the coffee candy and nut section. It was just cool because I just ate candy all day.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Yeah, I've just worked everywhere. I worked in American Apparel. Abercrubby and Fitch, a lot of people know this. already. I held a lot of fucking jobs. But BAPE was my ultimate, like, that was my dream job. When I first moved to New York, all I could think about was, like, getting a job at BAPE. I must have applied there, like, three or four times. And the fourth time was when I got it. So I was working at the Bap store, and I'll never forget, like, you know, a Friday, Saturday, during the holidays, stores packed. You know, we got music playing in the store.
Starting point is 00:02:46 And we had Kanye's graduation plan. And I remember being on the second floor in the shoe section, right? It was empty up there. It wasn't a lot of people. I was just standing there looking out in the street, seeing everybody walking doing their Christmas shopping. And I was listening to the lyrics of the song. And like when Kanye says, like, I've been waiting on this my whole life.
Starting point is 00:03:15 I was just thinking about my dreams in that moment, you know? I would just look outside and look at all the people spending their money on this babe shit. I had no money for it. And I was just dream, you know. Just dream about success
Starting point is 00:03:33 and having money and being able to do what I want to do and being able to eat whatever I wanted to eat and travel wherever I wanted to go and take care of my family and just thinking about happier time. During that time, I was working on my mixtape, a kid named Cuddy. That came out, blew the fuck up. A kid named Cuddy was when the Cuddy train left the station.
Starting point is 00:03:57 And it's been ride never since, right? It hasn't slowed down that once. And that was a beautiful moment because I felt the admiration from the culture. Like, people embraced me. And the mixtape was designed to just show people I was capable. You know? Just show people I was worthy of being an artist
Starting point is 00:04:21 And also just show them My ability as an emcee Like that I could really bar up and rap Also show them the range You know, that that mix tape was all about Just showing people like Wherever I wanted to go in my career It's not going to be crazy
Starting point is 00:04:37 Because they heard me go there on my mixtape Right? So I just wanted to like set myself up for a free range of different directions Right But the mixtape came out, blew up. I got an offer to tour Australia. It was three weeks.
Starting point is 00:04:55 I can't remember how many shows. Maybe like eight, ten shows or something like that. Traveling all around us because they needed me. They could give me like a week off or maybe, but they couldn't give me three weeks. So I had this decision to make. I was like, okay, do I stay working on my favorite job ever? or do I go and do this tour have this new experience?
Starting point is 00:05:21 There was uncertainty at the other end of that opportunity. It was like, I had the opportunity yet, but when I came back, I was going to be jobless again. And I didn't know where my next check was coming from. So there are so many moments in the lower of Man on the Moon. But today's big moment
Starting point is 00:05:43 It's sponsored by Apple Gift Car. I decided in that moment I was like, hey, I love Babe, but I didn't come here. I didn't come here to work a 9-5, you know. I came to New York to pursue music, and that's what this is doing for me. I put out a body of work that people are responding to. People want me to come tour, do shows. shows all around the world, I'm gonna fucking do it. So I quit my job and went to Australia, did the shows, came back, was home two days, and
Starting point is 00:06:23 then I got the call from playing pad that Kanye wanted me to come to Hawaii and work on Blueprint 3 and A&A's Heartbreak, you know? So we did all that. I had Blueprint 3, that was an epic moment, A&A's a Heartbreak, another epic moment. That's a whole other episode right there. talk about the collab albums. After that, people were really waiting on an album for me. There was a lot of pressure because Day and I was so massive that I guess people were expecting something more like that. But for me, I never liked to repeat myself. And, you know, when I had
Starting point is 00:07:09 to deal at Motown, a lot of people were like, hey, we want another. another day and night, right? We want something like that. And I would just constantly say, like, hey, I can't. Like, I can't, you know, this is, this is, I can only do what feels right. And I always like to explore and try new shit. And so with the album, it was like, okay, how can I, if the mixape was the TV series, then this is the feature film, right?
Starting point is 00:07:48 So I wanted to, like, up the experience, make it super cinematic. I was really inspired by Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon, The Wall, these albums that had this really cinematic nature, and I wanted to apply that with my shit. And I went in with Pat and Amil and we would just listen to records for hours.
Starting point is 00:08:14 play records over and over. And Emil had such an extensive collection of vinyl's. It was just fun. It was fun. You know, just sitting around with those guys and going through samples and being like, ooh, that sounds dope. Chop that up, you know, loop that up, boom, boom. But it's really cool, man.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Like, I just remember knowing that I wanted to make something different, something that sounded like nobody else, something that no one else was doing. You know, we were really thoughtful with the decisions we made as far as like production and features and things like that. In my dreams, the very first song, that was, I was like, this is the first song in the album. It has to be like, I'm bringing people into the cut. world for the first time.
Starting point is 00:09:17 And we haven't left this whole time. This whole 18 years I've been doing this shit. We have not left, right? I know people probably wanted to know why I did this on a mixtape, but the first track is us in the movie theater seeing a movie. And the dream works, Logo plays, and you're in the theater, and it's all this shit, somebody fucking farts. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Then the movie starts, and the mixtape starts. I wanted that moment to be done. like forever and ever we're watching a movie. I was like, wherever I go in my career, we're watching the same movie. So when that mixtape started, the movie has been on this whole fucking time. But it came time to do the album, I wanted to really bring a cinematic nature. And in my dreams was like my intro to the world, like everything I wanted to say. Yeah, I remember when we heard that sample, it was like, it just,
Starting point is 00:10:16 It just hit us, man. I love a unique sample. And it samples, too, that, like, you don't really, especially at that time you didn't hear in hip-hop. I want to talk about the moment when me and Yeh hooked up for Maker Say, right? So we were in Hawaii, and Lady Gaga's poker face was, like, a huge record at the time. We're getting in the car, headed back to the hotel. it was like on the radio and it kind of was like yo we should sample this and I was like oh I was like
Starting point is 00:10:51 bet let's get it he's all right tomorrow when we go to the studio we're going to sample it I was like bet so I come to the studio the beat is made it's I was just blown away and what he decided to use was a YouTube of Lady Gaga like playing the song poker face like acoustically It was dope. Like it was nice that he didn't just use the fucking album version, right? He decided to use his version and he just had a different swing to it. Common was in Hawaii at the time. He's like, put Common on it.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Then I jumped on it. Yeah, it was, we sat and listened to it and then he was like, yo, this needs to be your first single. I was just kind of like immediately, I was like, man, I got a really tight relationship with my mom. My sister, I just don't know if I want my first single to be something like this sexual and graphic and, you know, eye poker face. That's what it was supposed to be called at first, eye poker face. I poker face. It's just very graphic.
Starting point is 00:12:04 They were just telling me like, no, I'm telling you this is this has to be your first single. And I'm just sitting there and I'm just like, okay. All right. Okay. I remember, like, a couple of years later, Kanye, he texts me and he was like, you were right about make her say, always follow your heart. And I was like, you son of a bitch. I was like, I fucking told you.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I fucking told you. No, but it's... I appreciate he was able to tell me that I was right. That was cool. Kanye was always good about that. He'll admit when he's wrong. I'm loving this conversation, but I wanted to take him. a second to shout out today's sponsor, Acrobat PDF Spaces. I just got home from the most epic
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Starting point is 00:14:14 Get tickets now. Let's talk about features. So MGMT, huge fan of their work. They came out around the time I came out, so we were kind of all bubbling at the same time. And I thought it would be cool to bring them into the hip-hop space and do something trippy, right? So I had them come to the studio, and this day was actually the day that Michael Jackson died. And I was kind of in mourning for the rest of the session. I was like in a funky mood.
Starting point is 00:14:44 And we were trying to create. but I got these motherfuckers too drunk and high. They got so blitzed. I remember Andrew was playing on the keyboard and he was going through sentence and shit. And he would hit the keyboard and it would make like a weird sound like, and he'd start giggling the shit, him and Ben,
Starting point is 00:15:08 just giggling like little kids. And I was like, oh my God, we ain't making shit tonight. I was like, I fucked up. I got them too geeked. So we were getting ready to leave. We were there for like hours, man, and we couldn't make anything. When they first got there, they wanted to hear the vibe of the album. So I played them a couple songs.
Starting point is 00:15:27 And Pursue the Happiness, I remember they asked me to play that twice. So before they were leaving, I was like, guys, you know, I really went y'all on an album. Maybe you guys want to sing this hook with me on this song. You asked me to play twice, Pursue the Happiness. Maybe we could just put you guys on a hook. and they were like, okay, cool, let's try it. And they went in, laid it down, and that's how I got them on the album, just like that.
Starting point is 00:15:53 It was almost, you were about to leave. It almost didn't happen. And I just said, but we got to figure this out because I need you all on the album. And just quick thinking, I just decided to put them on that hook, and it worked. Yeah, that's how Pursuit Happiness came about. And also, too, when I got the thing,
Starting point is 00:16:13 that beat, I got it from Evan Mast, one half of Rat Attack. I remember it came fairly easy. You know, there's certain records in my career that came fairly easy. Some records took a few months because maybe, like, I'll write the first verse, and I'm so hype on the first verse. I'm like, oh, there's no way I can beat it, and I get intimidated. And it takes me another couple months to probably get the confidence to do the second verse, right? That's what happened with Cutty's Own.
Starting point is 00:16:41 like Cutty's Own, I did like those verses like a year apart. It just happens like that. But I remember Pursuit of Happiness that was a quick thing. And when I finished it, I was like, holy fuck, you know, like, this is so trippy and so weird and so psychedelic. And you haven't heard anything like this before. Like, what have I created? You know, this is really special. And a lot of records felt like that on the album
Starting point is 00:17:12 You know, a lot of records felt like that Cutty's own felt like that That's one of our mill's finest beats Yeah, I just love Cutty's own man Cutty Zone is just I just love it It's so fucking good I gotta start doing it at the shows
Starting point is 00:17:32 I think a lot of fans was asking about Cutty Zone I gotta get back into that Wow It's a good thing I got this amazing mug to hold my water in when I'm thirsty. I'm a little parched. Let me take a little sippy, sippy. That was good. It's tough.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Shout out to Maddie Farino for making this mug for me. I really appreciate it. We love you over here at Big Bro. Keep them coming. Make a blue one. Yeah. Let's talk about Solo Dola, man. Solo.
Starting point is 00:18:11 seem really creepy. I want to make a song like there is no song in existence that sounds like solo d'uola. Do you know how hard it is to make music that sounds different out of all music ever created? Like, let's think about that. The wizardry has been at peak levels since the very beginning. But you guys know this
Starting point is 00:18:42 I'm just what is it preaching to the choir But solo Dolo I knew Like I was like I was like this is going to be So dope And I've done it at shows in recent years And the crowd loves it
Starting point is 00:18:57 Because you don't expect it They don't expect to hear Solo Dolo It's just It's a deep cut Um wasn't a single It felt really creepy to me And I just wanted to have this
Starting point is 00:19:10 this uh this tone like listen good i don't have nobody i want i wanted to like have like this this really eerie tone to it what character in the movie did solo dolo play so so solo dolo was me um this character who is experiencing a lot of internal pain and His only place of peace is alone in the dark with no one around. There's no one to talk to. There's no one that understands him. There's no one who can relate to him. It's like the ultimate, like, total cold, dark place to be.
Starting point is 00:20:00 So that's why it was meant to be, it was meant to be really, really creepy. And I think we accomplished that goal. Soundtrack to my life, that was. That was another record that for me, I knew it was going to be in the beginning of the album, and I wanted to have a song that was kind of like, let me explain my purpose as an artist. Let me explain why I'm here, what you're going to see for the next 20 years or so, and I want you to be prepared. So that was like my mission statement, along with In My Dreams,
Starting point is 00:20:33 those two records were definitely like meant for me to address the public. and be like, hey, I've arrived. Kid Cuddy is here. And I love the opening lines, you know what I'm saying? I got 99 problems in the young bitches with so sick and man, carefree living, but I'm not Sean or a mom, I'm the Cleveland thing and get rolling with the fucking boys.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I mean, classic, tasty. Stories of the birth of your favorite melodies. Let's see. I don't have any stories about my melodies because they come from another source. They come from God. They come from the angels. They come from another place.
Starting point is 00:21:16 It's not like I'm inspired to, like I think about the melody. They just come out. You know, whatever the music is telling me to do, that's what I do. And I kind of follow what feels right. You know, I guess there's one thing I could say about Heart of a Lion, right? On Heart of a Lion, there's a moment where I'm doing the no, no, no, no, yeah. Right? So I was in the studio, Kilhoeffer, Anthony Kilhofer as engineer.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Madhue Jean-Baptiste, he produced it with his producing partner, Mike, for free school. And we were in Hawaii. I was just goofing around. I was just like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yeah. Just dicking around, right? And I was laughing. And then Kilhoffa was like, yo, that sounded really good. I was like, no, man, I was just fucking around. He's like, no, we used that. Use that. And I was like, for real? He's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:13 So shout out to Anthony K. Offer, man. We wouldn't have a no, no, no, no, yes, if it wasn't for him rooting me on. And that's the thing, too, like, that's important for people to see with this podcast. You know, I think early on in my career, people just thought I was like a really serious character, you know. But though I have a serious side, about 85, 90% of the time I'm goofy. for the round. So yeah, a lot of fun times making this album. It was really after this first album, once it was released and I started to really experience, like success, fame success,
Starting point is 00:22:58 when things started getting gnarly. But don't worry, there's going to be a man on the number two episode. So we'll get into that. We'll get into that. The state, I'm in the room one now. We're going to stay in the light before things get scary. Okay, don't want to scare anybody. Let's talk about the importance of having Chip the Ripper on the album. Chip is a Cleveland staple. Anybody from the land was about Chip the Ripper.
Starting point is 00:23:24 He was blowing up in the city way before I was, all right? Like so much so that I would hear people telling me, I'd be like, yo, what's going on back home? Oh, man, is this dude Chip the Ripper? And I'd be like, No, I'm sorry. But I totally envied him because I was like, damn, man. He's making it hot back home.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Shout out my boy, Chip, man. That's my brother, man. When we met, we hit it off immediately. Like, immediately. And we have the same humor. Like, me and Chip, we'll sit in the room in silence together. And then we'll also just talk about
Starting point is 00:24:10 just the silliest shit and we'll just goof off and we'll just laugh like like you know when you have that one friend that just brings so much joy into your life you know that's that's chip for me you know he is a true delight he's a delightful man and i love him like a brother he's the brother i always wish i had you know he's my favorite collaborator favorite smoking partner I knew that if I was going to be rep in Cleveland, if I was going to do Cleveland right, I had to put on the prince of Cleveland, Chip the Ripper. It was another way to show people like, hey, man, I know I'm, y'all saw me move to New York and I'm rolling with Kanye and I'm doing this, I'm doing that.
Starting point is 00:24:59 But I didn't forget where I came from and I know what time it is. It was dope. The alliance is great because, you know, another thing that makes Chip and me special is we We represent two different parts of Cleveland. You know, I came up in the suburbs, and Chip came up down the way, you know, in the city. But at the same time, we were both really good kids, and we both had the passion to make music. I think that's where we relate. And Chip had a very good parents that kept him in line and kept him out of trouble and made him do a schoolwork.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Like, Chip is really smart, and he'll just have, like, knowledge about shit, like, interesting facts about things and he's just really smart really smart dude I learned a lot from when we first recorded our records together we did a couple records for a mixtape or something like that in Cleveland with DJEV right and I found out immediately we had
Starting point is 00:25:58 chemistry it was undeniable you know because I've worked with people and it's like eh and my style is different you know my style is unique And Chip was, we were able to hang with each other, you know. We were both at the same place as skill set.
Starting point is 00:26:19 And it just worked. It just worked. So from that point on, I was like, man, I always got to, I always got to work with Chip. I got to keep him close. He's dope. He's got great ideas. He's my favorite MC. So Chip and on to forever.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Chip is going to be my number one collaborator. put them on it as many albums as I can you know we definitely doing the almighty glorious album we are actively producing that right now like we're cooking up every once in a while we'll do a song a couple months go by we do another song we take another time with it because we're gonna make sure that when this comes out it's it's the best shit it can be so there's definitely going to be an almighty glorious album please believe but you also going to get a new solo tip the ripper album produced by me that's coming it's going to be a same thing same approach I've taken with my Man on the Moon albums, but would it chip the Ripper album?
Starting point is 00:27:13 And with a twist, so it feels like him and not like him trying to be me. As a parent, there's nothing like getting to spend time with your kid, but they get busy when school season hits. So when it's time to start buying basic school spots, the best gifts are the ones that actually bring everybody a little closer. That's what's dope about Apple gift card. It can turn into a movie night on Apple TV app, gaming on Apple Arcade, or something that helps your student reset and feel good going into a new year. Apple gift card is a gift that brings some positive vibes and can help them be charged. It shows you care about how they're doing.
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Starting point is 00:28:23 We had these photos and we just gave him one and we used to draw this and have the moon in some way incorporated with it. And I wanted to feel like the stars and everything. it needs to feel like rich, and needs to feel 80s, and needs to feel classic. Like, I don't want it to look like, you know, crispy. It needs to look like rich vintage, you know?
Starting point is 00:28:49 So if you look at the stars on that, it doesn't, it feels, it feels rich, right? And it's the actual, I was like, I don't want, like, fake stars. Like, it needs to be an actual image from NASA, you know? I remember he turned, he sent the rough sketch, and I was like, holy shit, this is going to be amazing. hit the color and I was like wow it blew me away like I knew I knew it was like the perfect
Starting point is 00:29:11 album cover you know I mean like it was just if I feel like it matched the energy of the album perfectly the colors everything about it so the back was another thing I wanted the the packaging to look like a DVD right I thought okay on the back of a DVD you get like clips from the movie and a little blurb about like what it's about so I use clips from day and night and Maker say took steals from both of those videos put them on the back and then I did a kind of like a brief caption like logline just discussing the story in the album I don't know man I just thought that's unique you know nobody's ever done that nobody's ever like brief people on what they're about to listen to and I feel
Starting point is 00:29:59 that got people excited. When they picked up the album at the store and then they're reading it on the way home, they're like, oh, shit, what's this about to be? Oh, so it was just all about like, just getting people excited to experience something new. And that's been my thing on all the Man on the Moons. I like to put a nice summary, a nice log line, kind of talking about what the album's going to be. Yo, welcome to Ask Big Bro from Adobe Acrobat. These are some questions that we kind of sourced online.
Starting point is 00:30:33 I love doing this, checking in with the fans, seeing what they want to ask me. And this question is, how did you get common to narrate Man on the Moon? How did that come about? Me and Common met when I first started working with good music. He was always around. He was the big bro. And we had, did make her say, you know, because that was very early on in the process of the album. And then I was out putting the album together.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I was like, man, I want to, I want to. to make this feel like a cinematic kind of journey. Like I want to have somebody narrate. And I was like, oh, Kaman has the best man voice. He sounds like such a manly man, the man of men. I'm going to use him on the album and it's going to be fucking perfect. That's how it happened. Let's talk about day and night with Somi, who directed that video.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Sad to Somi, French legend. Kanye actually paid for the day and night video, which was really generous of him. I didn't have a label deal at the time. It was happening, but we needed to shoot it as soon as possible because the song had, at that time, the song had been out for a couple years. People had heard it, so we needed to strike fast with a visual. And it was Kanye's idea to just work with Somi. So we shot it in L.A.
Starting point is 00:31:54 so I came to set wearing something I can't remember what I was wearing but I didn't like it and then Somi had on the the justice service to air jacket right and I never seen it before and I was like yo what jacket is that
Starting point is 00:32:11 he told me and I was like can I wear it and said yeah sure and he was a little bit small on me and that's why if you look in the video the jacket is really tight on me It was a size too small, but I just loved it so much. I just thought it was badass. It wasn't my jacket.
Starting point is 00:32:33 It was Somi's. And I wonder if Somi still has it. It needs to be in the museum somewhere. I was shooting around LA. It was dope, man. It was a dope experience. Like shooting my first official music video. And then I remember seeing it for the first time of being like, holy fuck.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And then Travis Barker came down and did a cameo. He's been my longest friend in the business. He was so supportive of me in my career and he still is. I just saw him a couple weeks ago and we were just catching up and I'm going to play him some music, playing what I'm working on. But it was really nice that he showed up and decided to be in the video. That was really cool. Pursuit of Happiness. Brody Baker directed this.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Um, Jash Hardner produced this video actually. He was my homie and, and we were talking about ways we could work together. And he was like, oh, man, I could produce a video for you. I was all that shit, okay? So we ended up putting it together. And there's actually multiple versions of Pursuit a Happiness video. There's two versions, but we, we did this one and decided this one should be the one. Drake actually came out to be in a video.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Y'all know that had the classic Drake cameo. And I was like, hey, dude, we're going to. open champagne bottles and pour champagne on some girls. And Drake was like, all right, I bet. And it's so funny because if you look at the video, can we actually put up a clip? If you look at the video, Drake's bottle, you could tell he's never cracked open
Starting point is 00:34:09 the bottle of champagne. Like, he's not really working. Like, it's not really spraying out. But it's still played. I don't know if anybody noticed that in the video, but. Shout out to drizzle. Ice man.
Starting point is 00:34:26 So icy. Ice man. Anyway, this album, when I finished this album, I remember two days before it came out, like I couldn't sleep those two days. Like I was super nervous. I was like, holy shit. What have I done? Did I make a mistake? This shit is so weird.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Pursuit happiness is so weird. What are people going to think? Oh, my God. This is going to be crazy. It's either either going to be dope or a fucking nightmare. And I was just like, hey, if I only get a chance to do one album, at least it's this one, you know. So I gave it to God.
Starting point is 00:35:06 And I woke up on the day, September 15, 2009, and I saw the reactions and the excitement from fans. And it was in that moment where I realized, that all those days being obsessed about pursuing this career, it wasn't for nothing. You know, I wasn't, I wasn't crazy, you know. I wasn't crazy at all. I knew, man.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I knew it was so validating. And from there, I just been like, okay, I've been afforded the opportunity to live out my dreams and do everything I ever imagined. So at that moment, I was just relieved. Relieved that I landed the ship. You know, from the hype, the builder, from the single, from day and night, two years of hype.
Starting point is 00:36:16 The hype after the blue, print three after it was a heartbreak. It was so much hype. People were betting on me to fail. And I did not fail. I brought that shit home. You know how many artists have that type of buildup and don't fucking show up on their debut album?
Starting point is 00:36:37 Who has had a better entry to the game? Not that many. I'm pretty sure there's a few. But I'm up there too. You know, it was a Cinderella story. Had day and night, had a great mixtape, came home with that debut. And then I fucked them up with that sequel, Man on Moon 2.
Starting point is 00:37:01 But that's another episode. So I love y'all. Peace and love. Holl at me.

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