Big Bro with Kid Cudi - Mike Epps Swaps Wild Stories with Kid Cudi: Baby Mama Drama, Classic Movies & Weird Hobbies 🤣
Episode Date: May 27, 2026MIKE EPPS IS HERE Y'ALL!! Come cackle with a comedy legend today. We dive into his craziest stories, from working with Eddie Murphy on Dolemite Is My Name to the #1 thing he learned about comedy from ...Ice Cube on Next Friday. Mike gets into the chaos behind the scenes of The Hangover and what it's like to be the only Black guy in the room on set. He reveals his five favorite comedies of all time, how to build an hour of standup, and what it's like to bomb on stage. This man will come get you on one wheel if you don't watch your BACK. Honestly we just laughed for like an hour. Press play. Rock w/ our sponsors!! Sunglass Hut: I pulled up to Sunglass Hut looking for some summer shades, and honestly, it was a whole EXPERIENCE. Visit Sunglass Hut and find YOUR perfect pair of shades for summer. 😎 new eps of Big Bro launch every Wednesday 🚀 Big Bro is a Wave Original. for more good vibes, tune in everywhere @bigbrocudi instagram.com/bigbrocudi tiktok.com/@bigbrocudi #kidcudi #bigbrocudi Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I ride unicycles.
Really?
I stopped doing it because people think I'm a clown when I do it.
So they start saying, this dude's a joke.
And I'm like, no, I'm not, motherfucker.
I ride one wheel.
I knew a real pimp named Baby Powder.
They called him Baby Powder because he would slap his women with powder.
It wasn't baby powder he was slapping them with.
He'd be sitting there snarlinged cates.
Did not tip.
And cocaine fly everywhere in the woman.
That's all, man.
Do sucking ass all over the world.
You're a sucker butt.
You've been sucking butt since you've been in the world.
You're a sucker butt.
What's good, y'all?
Welcome back to Big Bro with Kid Cuddy, a wave original.
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I'm your Big Bro, Scott.
Coming to you live from the attic of my mind.
Get ready to laugh your ass off
because this week I'm sitting down with a true comedy legend.
Mike Epps.
He talks about everything Ice Keep taught him working on the Friday movies.
He's one of the funniest guys alive, and he really understands comedy as an artist.
He's on tour right now, so check the date so you can hit up a show.
Man, this is one of my favorite episodes.
So kickback, vibe out, and enjoy.
See you on the other side.
Mike.
Cutty, what's up?
Cutty.
Mike, thanks for doing this, man.
Cutty in the Cutlass.
Did you get your name from my cutlass?
No, but Cutlass Supreme is my dream car.
Because I'm from Cleveland.
They used to drive them all the time.
Yeah, glass houses.
Yeah.
Man, so how you been, man?
What's new?
You're on tour right now?
I'm on tour right now, man.
We finishing out the We the One's tour.
We got about a couple more dates left, but it's been crazy good.
Nice, nice, man.
I got to come check you, bro.
Thank you, man.
Man, well, just to explain this set, this is supposed to represent the addict in my mind.
And everything in this space is like things that represent me or whatever.
That's right.
What would be in the attic in your mind that represents a young Mike?
You know what I mean?
Basically the same stuff.
The same shit, right?
Yeah, I got a vintage house that in my hometown, one day when you're in Indianapolis,
you got to stop through.
Oh, definitely.
It's one of my family's houses.
I built a bunch of houses up in the neighborhood, but I kept one of them original.
Nice.
So it's got everything original in.
The floor model television work, everything in there works.
Oh, that's crazy.
Yeah, that's the 90s joint.
That's the magic, though.
That's the magic.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
You know, and also with comedy.
Right.
You know, the timing, you gotta be, it's got to be right.
Yeah.
You know?
And, like, I've had the opportunity to do some comedies here and there.
And, you know, people have let me be free.
I've seen that joint you did when you had the suit on, the black and white suit with the tie.
Was it, hold on, it was a TV show or was it a movie?
It might have been a TV show.
Was it knuckle?
It could have been, but you were really good in it.
Oh, thank you, man.
It was like, I was really surprised and excited to see you.
Man, you got to see me do stand-up.
Well, we got to do a show together.
Oh, that would be great.
You got to come and open up for me.
Man, I would love that.
Come on, let's say that.
I would love that.
That could be dope.
That, like, because, man, you do a song for me and then I do a stand-up for you.
Okay.
Perfect.
Perfect.
We got a plan.
Y'all heard that right here on Big Bro.
On Big Bro.
You're locked in.
And before we came in here, you played me something.
Yeah.
And I want you to talk a little bit about your comedy album.
Well, you know, I got a comedy.
Can you talk about it?
Yeah, I can talk about it.
Well, you know, I've always considered myself a hip-hop comic.
Yeah.
You know, you have different versions of comics.
I would consider, like, Dave Chappelle, like a jazz comedic.
Yeah.
You know, he's like a Miles Davis.
to me.
Yeah.
Okay.
You know?
Yep.
And I consider myself a hip hop comic because my whole world has come from hip hop.
I've been in, I've done so many songs.
I've been on songs with M&M.
I got a, I got a song on Ice Cube's album, Man Down right now that I wrote and helped produce
with Zay Tovin, man.
So I've been, I've always been on people's album.
I mean like I was on, there was a group called Group
home back in the day.
Two guys called group home.
Yeah.
They were some rappers out of New York
back in the early 90s.
That was like maybe one of the first
albums that I was on.
And then I've been on Gucci
Man's album. I've been on...
Nice. Man, I've been on so many
people's albums, you know,
related to music. So I decided to do
my own album.
And I hooked up with a guy named
Tony Draper. I don't know if you know Tony Draper,
but Swive House. He was...
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
One that created 8 Ball, MJG and Tila.
Aibor, MJG.
Shout out the legends.
Yeah, Tony Draper, man.
Great Tony Draper.
So I hooked up with him, man, and we got an album coming out about 12, 13 songs.
I got songs with Squarface, Raphael Sadiq, E40.
Kid Cuddy.
Kid Cuddy.
Pretty good.
I got to get up on there.
I got to get on there, man.
I was telling him about my song Willis that I did with my dude.
from my last album, I think he would love it.
It's pretty ridiculous.
Like, man, after this, I'll play it for you, bro.
Yeah.
Man, so I definitely want to talk about the hits.
You know what I mean?
All the amazing movies you've done from Friday to hangover and everything in between.
I want to start off with Friday, you know.
When that came out, like, that's how a lot of people discovered you, right?
kind of walked me through like how that came to be, the audition, how you got the script.
Was it a really intense kind of like process to get the role?
Like just kind of talk about that.
It was.
You know, the Friday movie, as we all know, the first Friday was incredible.
Successful.
Chris Tucker killed it.
Ice Cube, of course, point guard it.
And then the second Friday came up.
And at the time I was, you know, I hadn't done anything.
Well, I did one movie before it in was called Three Strikes.
Okay.
With DJ Pooh.
Okay.
And I did a cameo in that movie, but I hadn't had a big break.
So when the Friday movie came along, it was like, this was my break.
Yeah.
You know, this was my break.
I was doing stand-up one night, and a friend of mine told me Ice Cube was in the house.
Ice Cube, John Singleton, they were there auditioning comics.
And I did my thing on the stage.
And I got on stage, my buddy said, Ice Cube's over there.
And I went to meet Ice Cube, and he said, can you act?
And I said, hell yeah.
You got a movie for me?
He said, well, we auditioned it for the next Friday movie.
And then, you know, my manager Niles got me in the play to audition for it.
But it wasn't easy because Chris Tucker had did such a great job in the first one.
It must have been a lot of pressure.
It was.
I had to follow that.
But, you know, coming from where I came,
from, man, any opportunity was golden for me.
So I took the opportunity, audition for it.
I know the audition process was long.
It was hideous.
It was like a three-week process.
And in the three weeks of auditioning,
and I've seen every piece of competition in the business,
they're auditioning.
Wow.
From the Great Marlon Wayans to Brian Hooks to, I mean, everybody.
And I got it.
I end up getting the role, man.
No way.
I end up getting the role.
And I never forget, the first day I was on the set,
it was really, really quiet and somber.
Everybody was like, and it kind of threw me off.
And the first scene I did.
Which one?
When I came downstairs and I ran outside with the pepper spray
and the grilled pepper spray.
I told Ice Cube, I said, man, they ain't laughing.
And he said, it ain't time for them to laugh.
Oh, okay.
I said, okay.
I said, because I never understood the movie process until I got in it.
Because, you know, you're following a script.
Yeah.
So, you know, when you're new to it, you don't understand that some scenes are just to carry the skip script through.
Yeah.
It ain't meant for you to be funny in the moment.
Right, right, right, right, right.
He said, I'll let you know when it's time to be funny.
Right.
So, you know, that was the process of that.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
I mean, how did you feel like the reaction?
Like, were you, like, relieved?
You saw that, like, people, like, loved it.
Because, like, man, what you did, it was so smart, right?
Because you didn't come in.
And try to be Chris Tucker.
No.
No.
You.
And that was the hardest part.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's like, how do you come in?
And you came in on some, like, this is me.
This is what I can bring to the.
the table art something different and it's still going to be funny as fuck yes right everything that came
out of day day mouth was hilarious even when it was shit that wasn't even meant to be a joke
you're settled yeah you know what I said it was just like the character itself is probably one of
the greatest characters in comedy I appreciate that man thank you man so like how did you feel
when you saw that like the reaction was like acceptance
You know, man, I always been a critic on myself.
So, you know, I always think I can do better.
And I always tell people this.
I'm like, I'd already had it set up if I didn't get the,
if I didn't do good in the movie and the movie didn't do good,
I had 100 pounds of weed ready to go.
I was going to drive 100 pounds of weed back to my hometown.
Man, I already said it.
You had plan B.
You was ready.
And I told the dude that was going to sell me the weed.
I said, that's okay.
He said, what happened?
I said, I think I'm in the movie business.
You know, so it was a blessing, man, to be able to get my, get my shit off, man.
You know, after, especially after working so hard, man, you know, I look at a lot of these young comics now, you know, which I love a lot of them.
The process of me making it and coming to how far I was, man, I had to really, really grind because social media wasn't out.
No, no, no.
You know, so the business was one.
through word of mouth.
The business was one through
live experiences.
Real human experiences
where people seen me doing it.
Yeah, yeah.
And then putting me on.
So, you know, I did a lot of clubs,
a lot of bar and grills.
I lived in New York before I got
before I moved to L.A.
So, you know, the New York stand-up scene
was like a boot camp for me.
I did shows, man.
Sometimes I would do five shows a night.
Shit.
Yeah.
Five shows a night.
I get on a train at 7 o'clock
and ride to Brooklyn and do two shows
and get on the train and come back to Manhattan
and get in the cab and go to Queens.
Sometimes I didn't get in the house
to 2 o'clock in the morning,
but I had to scrape that rent money up
because them shows weren't paying them
but $75 a show, you know?
Yeah, man.
And I can relate to that, man,
like the work ethic.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's like people don't understand
like before day and night
I was out here.
working on my jobs, doing open mics,
peace style battles.
You know what I'm saying?
Putting in the work.
So by the time people did discover me,
I was polished.
Yeah, it looked like you came out of nowhere.
But you had been working on that shit.
Yeah, exactly.
And that's been my thing.
And same thing with you.
Like, every time I see you, you work and you're doing your thing.
You're in this movie.
You're doing stand-up.
You're all over the place.
And that's the same thing that, like, you don't lose that.
You know what I mean?
You don't lose it.
Like when you're, when something,
is your dream and you're afforded the opportunity to do that for a living, you don't take it for
granted.
No.
You know what I'm saying?
It could be that one day on set where it's like 20 degrees and you in a t-shirt and it's
supposed to be summer.
You know what I mean?
And it's still grueling.
But you don't bitch about it.
You're like, look, man, I'm living out my dreams.
That's right.
And that's what I tell a lot of young kids.
I'm like, when you have a real dream and you have a goal, you're excited about the grind.
Yeah, exactly.
You know, there was something on the inside of me
that told me I was going to make it.
Yeah.
That's what kept me going.
Yeah.
That's what made me do $65, $75 shows
and can still walk out of there smiling.
Because I knew I was on a mission for a reason.
I'm like, ain't no way I'm doing all this grind
and ain't nothing going to come out of it.
Yeah.
So, you know, for all the youth out there that's watching this,
you know, be in the present of your grind, man,
and embrace it.
Yeah.
Because it's real.
It's going to turn into something.
You're going to be able to cash in on it.
Yeah.
And they always say, like, my manager playing Pat at the time used to say this.
He used to say there's no better time than the come up.
No better time.
You know what I'm saying?
After the come up, then you're used to the glamour and all the success and whatever, whatever.
Like me, it's 18 years in, I haven't experienced that excitement about, like, the come up.
Yeah.
Because it was like the, it was like the on.
known was exciting.
It was.
You know what I mean?
It was like,
you can remember those great nights.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's really weird because after you're successful,
you wish you could tap back into it.
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah, man.
Time passes by and, you know,
the moment that you're in now
is the moment that you're supposed to be in.
You really can't go backwards.
Yeah, no, no, definitely.
I wanted to also ask you, too,
just about Friday.
Was there a lot of improv,
did they let you kind of play and have fun with it?
Yeah, you know, that's what I am.
I'm a, I'm an improvvision.
I don't know how to really say that.
Improvisinist.
Improv.
And you know, for a filmmaker, that could be difficult.
Yeah.
Sometimes because people are used to working off of a page.
But a guy like Ice Cube who cast you, he, you know, he's really, really smart when it comes,
because he cast people for who they are and what they are,
what they do.
Yeah.
He knew what my expertise was, and he said, you know what?
I'm a cast this guy, because I know I'm gonna get more.
I'll never forget, when I walked him, I was nervous about the script,
and I told Ice Cube, he said, let's run some lies.
He took the script out of my hand and threw it.
You don't need this shit.
I'm like, wait, wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Oh, cute?
Yeah, wait a minute, man.
He said, you know, he said, you know,
you know, I'm going to let you do your thing.
And what we're going to do is,
what's on this paper,
we're going to get two of them,
and I'm going to let you do three of yours.
And three of mine is put what you want to put on it.
You know, and if you want to flip it, you can flip it.
Oh, that's dope.
You know.
And again, like I said,
it was a blessing to work with somebody like that
because usually writers and directors,
they are, they're married to the words.
Yeah.
But a movie like Friday, you can't, you know, Chris Tucker, myself, A.J. Johnson, Bernie Mac, guys that came from the stand-up world, you know, to work with us, you know that that's what we do.
Yeah.
We improv and it's the best stuff come out of our brain and our mind and stuff that we, they come from us.
No, man, that's so dope, bro.
I wanted to, like, ask a little bit more about some movies, like, in particular, like,
This is, this was such a random casting for me.
I didn't understand it.
But it was the best, Cassie, like, whoever casted you in this movie, I hope they got a raise.
How the fuck did you get in Resident Evil, bro?
Wow.
Like, how did that happen?
Well, you know.
It seems like it's a long story.
It is a long story.
You know, some of these movies, I play a black guy in them, you know.
And that, that was one I played a black guy.
because I was the only black guy in it.
You know, when you're in a movie with an all-white cast,
you're playing a black guy in the movies.
Basically, every black guy.
Yeah, so, you know, at the time I had a,
I was at CAA, man, I had an agent named Brent Joe,
and that's what he always talked about.
He was like, you know, you got to be seen with more
than just black people.
So he got me in that movie.
You know?
He's like, you know, you're in a movie business.
You got to do more.
more than black movies.
So he connected me with the producers, man,
and they put me in the movie.
I remember I did the first one,
and we shot it in Mexico City.
That was my favorite one.
That's crazy, right?
We shot that movie in Mexico City,
and I forget the director's name,
but he was drunk the whole time.
I mean, I'll never work with a guy like that,
and he did a great job, you know.
It was a method to the madness
It was a method to the madness
Then I did
I did two and three
Yeah yeah I remember
Yeah and you know
I always tell people
If you sign up for a horror movie
And you're black
You're gonna die
You're not gonna live
They didn't tell me I was gonna die
But I knew it
You just
So the director came to me and said
I got to tell
I said I'm dead
I'm dead
You got it let's go
So, you know, you're not going to live in a horror movie as a black person, period.
Oh, my God.
That's so true.
Yeah, it's got to go.
Yeah.
I've only done one horror movie where I survived.
What?
Yeah.
But it was kind of like I did this movie trap, M. Night Shyamalan's trap with Josh Hardin.
I think I seen it.
And I played like a gay pop star.
Uh-huh.
And I kind of, I'm best friends with the...
That's why you didn't die.
No, yeah.
I wasn't, I didn't get in the way.
Like, I didn't get in the way.
It wasn't a hard criminal.
No, no.
I had guns.
I was shooting people.
They was like, this mother got to go.
This is like, you're going to die.
Yeah, he's got to die.
You was playing a nice, soft, cult character, you know.
You know, you don't live.
I get it.
He's got a great perm, his hair is fucking, I had this blonde bust down.
We can't kill this dude.
So I want to talk about baby powder from how high.
Baby powder.
Was there a lot of improv in this?
Like, how did this come to be?
Was what we saw written or did you get a chance to play a lot?
When I get a role, Cuddy, I'm like, if I read it and there's nothing there, I have to bring it all there.
Right.
And I shot a movie.
That was the great Bob Dylan.
His son was directing.
His name was Jesse Dillon.
And Method Man, Red Man was in the movie.
And when I got the script, I'm like, man, it ain't nothing there.
Right.
I got to put something on it.
So I went to the director.
I'm like, dude, I knew a real pimp named Baby Powder.
That's all he wore was light blue.
And they called him Baby Powder because he would slap his women with powder.
You know?
it wasn't baby powder he was slapping them with
he was slapping them with cocaine
because he'd be doing the coke
he'd be sending that snarling the cugs say
did not tip
and cocaine fly everywhere in the woman that I said oh man
so I brought that character back to life
and I used baby powder I didn't use cocaine
I mean I have used cocaine before
but I didn't use it in this movie
and I wouldn't have never slapped nobody with it.
I had a careful for myself.
Oh, my God.
That's why I came up with the character with, you know.
Oh, my God.
This episode is so good already.
Oh, my God.
This is what I needed.
Oh, my God.
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How was it playing Black Doug in the Hangover movies?
Black Doug and the Hangover movies.
That was another fish out of water opportunity for me.
you know, I tell people all the time
that movie right there was a
gamble movie.
Yeah.
That whole movie was a movie
that nobody knew it was going to do
what it did.
It was just a bunch of funny dudes.
John Ham and all the guys getting together,
Ed Ham and them getting together
and shooting that movie.
But it was great to do, you know.
Sometimes when you're the only black guys
sitting there with white guys
and your comics, you know,
you have to find the rhythm of how they do comedy.
Yeah.
And that was a little difficult for me at first
because black audiences, you know, when we laugh, we celebrate.
We fall out the chair, we slap our hand, we stomp our feet.
Yeah.
And when you get around, you know, white audiences,
they laughing, but they don't laugh like that.
Yeah.
So when I got on the set and I was cracking jokes, they were like,
ha-ha.
You know, white people sing when they talk.
They're like, oh, wow.
That was good.
Oh, man.
That's all I heard was like singing words, you know.
That's how white people express their excitement.
And that shit threw me off.
I'm like, these motherfuckers ain't laughing.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, shit.
Because I'm used to motherfuckers falling out the chair and running.
You know, black people run when they laugh and shit.
And I'm like, okay, they ain't laughing.
But when it came out on film, it was good.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
It was good.
So, like, let me ask you about that one scene where Zach Galaphanakis comes up.
And he's like, what's up, my nigga?
Like, you be like, excuse me?
Was that in the script?
Or did he just?
Because there's like, I saw some conversations online where you just do it out there.
That wasn't in the script.
Okay.
And when they said cut, I told him, you know, I'm supposed to.
to slap shit out of you, right?
And he was like, what?
I was like, I'm supposed to be slapping the shit out of you,
but since we in motion picture, we're in film,
I'm glad to be working with some white guys.
I'm gonna let you slide on that.
But I hurry up and called him two, three honkies
the first chance I got.
Oh, my God.
Cracker and some old white shit.
You know what I mean?
But it's all in comedy, man.
You know, that's the thing about comedy, man.
In the midst of shooting a film,
something can come out of somebody's mouth
and you've got to just stay in character.
Yeah.
Whether you like it or not.
Because you're on camera.
Yeah.
You're on film, you know.
And that's what I do.
I walk up to people sometimes and say shit
that they don't even know I'm a say
just to get the real reaction.
Yeah.
And I think that's what they were doing.
You know, you might have seen my reaction.
They might not have.
showed that part of him saying that,
but they definitely kept my reaction to him saying it
and put it somewhere in the film.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, because that's what they're looking for.
Directors are, they're looking for a reaction.
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah.
Is there a movie of yours that you think is underrated?
A movie called All About the Benjamins.
Oh, that's not underrated, though.
That's like top three for me.
When I say it's underrated, you know, industry-wise.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
It was underrated.
You know, when you see them do a three or a two or a three of a movie, that's when it's not underrated.
That means it was on the radar.
Yeah.
But that was a movie that was really underrated.
But culturally, what it did for the culture.
Yes.
And I always tell people, man, I've always been ahead of my time.
Yeah.
You know, the things that I come up with, the things that I do when I do them, for some reason, they don't hear.
hit it that time, but when somebody else go do that shit,
it becomes great.
Yeah.
So, you know, I've always considered myself a trendsetter
and some of the things that I do at the moment,
they're just not, you know, feasible.
The people just don't get it.
Yeah.
But somebody else will go do that shit and it'll blow up.
Yeah.
I lay groundwork and people just come along, build the house.
Right.
And I'm cool with that, you know, because I understand my position.
I know what I do.
So I get my flowers in different areas.
Yeah.
Not always on the front line, but, you know, I know what I am and I know what I've given to the culture.
Right.
And, you know, I can see it.
My audience can see it.
People can see it.
But, you know, the business is political.
I don't think I've ever been a part of the club.
Yeah.
You know.
But one thing I will say is that you are one of the most beloved comics.
Thank you.
And I want to give you your flowers.
I appreciate that.
You know what I'm saying?
Thank you.
You are someone who is always batting a thousand.
I don't think I've ever seen you do a dud.
I appreciate that.
Everything that comes out of your mouth is funny, creative.
just on these things
that will come out of your mouth
you know what I mean
and that is rare
and I can say that for you too
oh thank you man
I think you're one of those guys too
I think you're like
you got Prince
and then you have Rick James
yeah
you have Kanye West
and then you have Kit Cutty
yeah
and there's not nothing to say bad
it's just that
there's positions in the culture
you know you reign supreme
in your position
you know
and I tell kids
all the time, you know, I tell my kids, I said, you know, in life, you can be labeled number
five, but be number one.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah, that's true.
You can be number one at any number.
The way to be number one at any number, and not taking nothing from the people who are labeled
number one because they label number one for a reason.
Right, right.
You know.
Prince and Kanye, they label number one for a reason because they are number one.
Yeah.
But you got guys that are number one as well
that just don't get put in number one slots.
Yeah.
But their work and leave it to their audience,
they're the best thing ever since sliced bread.
And I think I've had to remind myself of that very fact.
All the time.
Everything you just said.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Because you could, especially with social media now and just like,
it's discouraging.
Yeah, you know, you could see some shit online and be like,
oh, man.
Yeah.
Maybe people don't want to hear.
me or maybe I'm, you know, I've been doing this 18 fucking years, man, maybe I'm at the
tail end of my career.
Yeah.
But I'm about to go on tour and I know as soon as I come out and see that fucking
amphitheater packed to capacity.
Saying your words.
Singing every fucking word.
I'm going to be like, I'm probably break down and cry like, man, I'm an idiot, man.
How am I over here in my head in my house thinking that people don't want to hear me?
Right.
And they out, like, the internet is not a real place, Scott.
Stop paying attention to that shit.
When you step out, people going to show up.
That's the thing I'm reminded of when I go out there and I do a show.
I'm pretty sure that's the thing you're reminded of when you go out there and you're doing stand-up.
Or you're at the screening of a movie you just did.
And people are fucking rolling, rolling on every joke that you say.
It's confirmation of your work.
Yeah, definitely.
And what you have done in the business.
Yeah.
That's the artist in you.
And that's the perfection of what you like and what you want, you know,
because we tend to focus on that one motherfucker that don't like us.
Yeah.
It'd be like 100 comments that's all of.
And you see that one.
That's right.
It's like, this sucks.
And you're like, that's right.
That's right.
What?
Yes, right.
You know what I'm saying?
That's just that creative muscle, man, because that's a person that's joining you
in your insecurity.
Yeah.
And when you see that comment, it's like, okay, that's you confirming to me that I'm hard on myself.
Yeah.
That's you confirming.
And you know, as the years go on and as I stay in this business, I've learned to embrace it.
And now I actually get upset if I don't see it because that's a true statement.
It's like you ain't shit unless you got haters.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
I mean, if they ain't talking about you, you're not doing something right.
You ain't doing shit, right.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Like, it's, I don't know nobody.
If you think about in history, I don't know no famous person that's just been a unanimous all down the middle.
Everybody loves them.
Not one person.
You can think of all the greatest people, all the greatest artists in our minds, the Michael Jackson's, the prince.
Yeah.
The Kanye.
the M&Ms, the Drake's, whatever, whatever.
There's always been people.
There's all, every one of those artists I named,
there's an audience of motherfuckers that do not,
that have never liked any of their music.
That's wild, man.
And it's like, there's people that are haters
that are just, that's just their job.
They wake up, they clock in, and they're hating all day.
You know what I'm saying?
And like.
And I love to see who they like.
Yeah, it's like, okay, well, tell me, yeah, you like.
Who do you fuck with?
It's probably some bullshit.
It's definitely some bullshit.
It's definitely some bullshit.
Because at some point, you got to be like, all right now.
Like, what are you gauging what's good and it was bad?
Like, how are you gauging that?
I had a guy one time talking shit to be on the internet,
and I just went in the DM.
I was like, dude, what is it with you?
You know, every time I put something out,
you don't like none of my shit, this and that.
He said, I seen you in the airport,
and I asked for a picture and ignored me.
So I'm like, okay.
So you were a fan.
I didn't give you a picture
and you turned into a non-fan.
You're a villain arc star.
Now you don't like my shit
because I didn't do what you wanted me to do.
So that means you really are a fan.
You couldn't do what you wanted to do with me.
So you turned on me.
So, you know, you're just a hater fan.
Would you say a lot of haters are deep down fans?
I mean, they're taking time.
I'm out of their day.
Yeah, you're paying attention.
Yeah, to say something.
Well, you get, you know, me, when I don't fuck with somebody, I see something along on.
I'm like, and I skip it.
I'm not going to be like, you know what, let me leave a comment and say some hateful shit
about this motherfucker here and just put that out in the universe and just let that live.
I'm so good now with that, though.
I can tell if somebody write a fake page, I'm like, okay, yeah, that's one of my baby
mamas.
Like, if you, whatever you say, I can match it up to your ass.
I'm like, yep, that's some shit they'll say.
I know who the fuck that is.
You know what I mean?
You know, it's too specific.
You know what I'm saying?
You think you're all that because you got a new wife.
It's like, oh, I know who this is.
I know ain't no nigger saying that shit.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Was being a comedian always your dream?
You know what, man?
No.
What's crazy is I had a bunch of dreams of being other stuff
the whole time I was a comedian.
Okay.
Ain't that some shit?
Yeah.
It's like going to school, majoring to be a lawyer.
But while you're at school practicing to be a lawyer,
you're a carpenter.
fixing people's houses and shit.
Yeah.
So you probably had a lot of people that came up to you
and it was like, yo, bro.
You should be a comedian.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, the thing about being a comedian,
it's like when you're a kid,
and I never heard a comedian say, a kid, especially for my,
maybe now, because comics are just, they're everywhere.
But I grew up at a time where Deaf Comedy Jam was around,
it wasn't a lot of comedians.
It was that group.
And growing up as a kid,
you had kids saying
they wanted to be basketball players,
police,
everybody had a specific thing.
Right.
If I told somebody I wanted to be a comedian
growing up in the 70s,
they'll say you're disrupting the crack class.
Yeah.
They didn't say, oh, he was funny.
You're going to be a comedian.
They'll say, go to the principal's office.
Oh, shit.
You're fucking the classroom up.
It wasn't.
They couldn't match that up with being successful.
Yeah.
For being a class clown.
A class clown was somebody that said,
oh, you're going to grow up and go to prison.
Oh, you're going to grow up and you're not going to never.
I remember I never forget.
A teacher told me that one of my teachers, rest of peace, Miss Cummings.
I loved her, but she told me one day, sit your ass down.
You're not getting paid to do this.
And then I got paid to do it.
I grew up and got paid to do it.
That right.
And I'll never forget.
my mom used to always tell people around me,
don't laugh at him because he'll keep going.
So, you know, all this shit just,
it was 360ed in my life.
You know, all the shit that I was doing
that was disruptive as a kid
and getting on people's nerd.
I mean, I mean, I talked to people who knew me as a kid
because a lot of times you have to ask people
who you were as a kid.
Because you don't remember.
Yeah.
You think you do.
Yeah.
But people tell you know.
They'll tell you the shit.
Yeah, I said that?
Yeah.
I'm like, how was I as a kid?
They was like, I wanted to bust your fucking head.
I couldn't stand your ass.
And I'm like, oh, wow.
What was I saying and doing?
So to see all those people come back down and say, you really have changed and you became something.
Yeah, it's like, no, it all makes sense.
It makes sense.
It makes sense.
Now that I can loan you some money, it makes sense.
Yeah.
Now I'm glad you wasn't shit when you was a kid.
Oh, my God.
Who are some actors and comedians that you loved working with?
Of course, Ice Cube was one of my best number one guys that I worked with because I never felt competition with them.
Right.
Ice Cube actually is a fan of people he work with.
Right.
And when you work with people who are a fan of yours, they're the best people to work with.
I've worked with people that were insecure about working with me for whatever reason.
What you mean for whatever reason?
You're the illest.
Yes.
I'd be shook if I had to share a scene with you.
You know, the thing about that is you just have to play the position because I've worked
with Eddie Murphy.
Yeah.
And I got put in that position.
Where you shook?
I was more starstruck than shook.
I was more.
Or like, wow, I can't believe I'm standing here with Eddie Murphy.
Yeah.
Versus I got to steal this scene because I'm in it with Eddie Murphy.
Yeah.
Which wasn't going to happen, but.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, you got people who think like that, though.
Yeah, yeah.
You got some artists who are their competitors.
Yeah.
And you got some artists that are team players.
Yeah.
And you got some artists that are like,
they just take their position.
That's how I am.
I take my position
and whatever comes out of that
is my reward.
Yeah.
You know,
and it makes shit flow better
because I'm not there trying to
be the best one.
I'm there trying to be the best
of what I can bring to it.
Yeah.
And we just win like the Bulls,
like Michael Jordan,
you know?
Love it.
Man, I was going to bring up a point
to what you were talking about
about how it was great.
You working with Ice Cube because it was no competition.
Right.
And I heard this interview where Jim Carrey was talking about how he wanted Jeff Daniels
because he wasn't, he didn't feel like it was going to be a competition.
If it was two comedians, it would have been them competing for the best joke.
But Jeff Daniels is an actor and he knew he would be able, he wouldn't, he would be able to get his shit off and it wouldn't be a competition.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And a lot of the times, Jeff Daniels was setting up a joke and then Jim Carrey would bring it home.
Yes.
And that's kind of like the same dynamic with Craig and Day Day.
You know what I mean?
It's like Craig would usually set up the joke and then Day Day Day, bring it in.
You know what I mean?
So I thought that was interesting, you know, because it's kind of like you do want that, you know,
somebody that's going to be, you know, open to let you shine and not.
be a thing of like, oh, I need my moment too, after his moment.
And then I need another, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
That's real shit, man.
He wasn't lying about that.
Yeah.
You know, and that's what I am.
Like, if I work with a comedian, I really let them get their shit off.
Yeah.
You know, I take a backseat on purpose.
That's very generous.
I take a backseat on purpose just in case that's the reason.
Yeah.
Just in case they feel that way.
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah.
If they don't take a position with me, then I go hard.
Yeah.
I'm going to go hard anyway, but, you know, I don't do the competition shit.
Yeah.
Because it comes off.
Yeah, I feel that.
You know, it comes off.
One thing I don't like is, I don't like for people.
I don't like artists that already have it.
that have achieved everything that got to appear to have everything
and continue to jump in positions that they'll step down in a position
so you won't get in the position.
That's that fuck shit, yeah.
And I'm like, what the fuck are you doing standing here?
Well, I mean, the whole-
And they're like, I'm standing here because I don't want you to go.
I don't want you to, I know what you'll do.
So I'm a step back
I'll step down
so your ass won't go further
And there's people out there like that
You know, it's artists out there like that
Yeah
And they look crazy in the position
It's like you're not supposed to be doing this shit
No, it's like you're supposed to
Like the whole journey
Is like you grind
You become successful
And then you leave the door open
So others can walk through it
You know what I mean
You would think
Like that's literally how you're supposed to do it
And that's why like
you know, I've been reaching out to up-and-coming artists to collab, you know, like, I want to,
I want that to be a part of my legacy that I, like, gave opportunities to the younger generation.
That's right.
You know what I mean?
Because that's kind of like what Kanye and people before me did for me.
Yeah.
Jay-Z put me on this album.
He gave me an opportunity.
Kanye did 808s with me.
He gave me an opportunity.
Like, those are my OGs.
They reached down to the youth.
you know what I mean
and I was much younger than these guys
I was like six seven
I'm six seven years younger
six years younger than Kanye
you know
um
and they they
saw something in me
and was like this dude here
and it's not like
my shit was like
I'll put out of a mixtape
and then it was proven right
but before then
like it was just a small group
of people in New York
that knew what time it was
that's right
you know I mean
yeah but like
I'll never forget
like playing pat, you know, yay, like all these people, like reaching out and wanting to like
uplift me and give me the shot.
Yeah, because they seen the value in you.
Yeah.
And they knew that you was one of those guys.
Yeah.
I got a tour right now called We the Ones.
And, you know, we on our third year.
And I'm the senior on the tour.
I put it together with a guy named Blake out of Chicago.
Shout out to Blake.
And for three years, that's what we've been doing.
we've been putting on young and up-and-coming artists.
And these dudes are incredible.
Man, that's so dope.
Mojo Brooks out of Chicago,
Carlos Miller,
D.C. Youngfly, Chico Bean.
Oh, you got some hitters.
These dudes are hitters.
And these are the up-and-coming guys.
I mean, they have arrived, you know.
And it's just now and all about them just doing great work
like they've continued to do.
But that's what I do.
I surround myself around the young, man.
And I just try to leave.
myself open to learn from, you know, the OGs, my present colleagues and the young.
Yeah.
I just learn how to just become an open shell.
But that's a superpower, bro.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't even want to be a teacher.
Yeah.
I want, if you learn something from me, I just want you to learn from example.
Yeah.
I don't want to look like I'm teaching nobody, nothing, because I have too much more to learn
myself.
You know, you've done multiple stand-ups and like stand-up specials.
And, you know, like I said, I started doing stand-up and making a eight-minute set was stressful as fuck.
And you're up there for an hour.
And I was actually talking about this to somebody.
I was like, this is basically like theater.
You know what I mean?
In some way.
It is.
And like...
One man theater.
Yeah.
And what goes into, like, how many pages of, like, monologue do you have when you go in, when you go
into do these hour-long specials?
Like, how, how, like, and how much time do you have to prepare for something like this?
Well, you know, I always tell people, you know, stand-up comedy is,
it's probably the single most hardest structure of art that you could do.
It's the hardest one.
You don't have a song behind you.
You don't have a group.
No lights.
No, you can't tell a joke and stop and say, my fault.
Yeah.
Let me tell it again.
So, you know what I'm saying?
That shit is right thin and there.
Yeah.
And it's all timing.
To be a good joke teller, you've got to be a sponge.
Yeah.
It's not really about telling jokes.
It's about telling an experience and a story.
Yeah.
And then the joke part comes in when you learn how to,
because normal people do it.
Yeah.
And don't know it.
They do it all the time.
Yes.
Normal, some people, before they talk to somebody,
they got a premise,
they have a setup,
and they have a punchline.
And don't even know it.
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah.
And when the person gets to you
and they're talking to you,
they know exactly what they want to say to you
at the end to get your attention.
Right.
And that's what telling jokes is.
Yeah.
I'm going to come to you and say,
Cuddy, I have a problem with you.
Your dog is pissing on my grass.
Okay.
Now, if he pisses on my grass again,
I'm calling the dog pound.
That's the punchline.
Yeah, yeah.
You see what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah.
So.
I mean, I think that's how I kind of got the confidence to do stand up.
Yeah.
Because, like, all my friends are.
You've been doing it.
Yeah, I've been doing it since high school.
That's why you had enough nerve to do it.
Yeah.
And our genres are their brothers.
Yeah.
Music and stand-up art related.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Painting and music is related.
Yeah.
You know, dancing and music is related.
Yeah.
You know, all of it is relatable.
All of it is the same art form in a different space.
And I think that being on the stage made me a lot more comfortable.
That'd be the fact that I've been touring for 18 years.
As a music artist.
As a music artist, and I know how it feels to be in front of a crowd.
That's crazy.
Because even though you have your fans that adore you in the building, right?
Yeah.
If you're doing a shitty performance, they're going to react.
That's right.
You know what I mean?
Nobody's going to scream and yell.
No, if your voice is cracking and you're not, you know, showing up.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
So it's kind of like the same thing.
Like you, it's like, it's like,
with comedy,
you have to keep the jokes coming.
With music,
you have to keep the fun happening.
You got to keep the energy going.
You got to keep people enthused
and excited about the show.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
But from doing stand-up and doing music,
I can say that stand-up,
like I can agree with you.
That stand-up was probably the single
most hardest thing I've ever done.
And I've done movies.
I've acted for a long time.
I've done really difficult roles, man.
But there was nothing.
I had to get drunk and high before I got out there just so I can knock the nerves out.
And I can just be like, fuck it.
If this shit, if they don't laugh, I'm just like, fuck it, you know?
That's called killing your inner ambition.
Yeah.
And you'll learn that that makes it worse.
Yeah.
The instinct of a stand-up is that.
the same instinct of it as a mean dog walking up to you trying to bite you.
Right.
The instinct of standing on stage telling jokes has that same, it's that same feeling.
Because of a dog, since that you're afraid of them, they'll bite you.
Yeah.
They'll go further.
Yeah.
And that's how an audience is.
An audience can have an instinct that's natural.
that if you are making up some shit,
that if you're afraid,
that if you don't know what you're doing,
you know.
They're going to sense that shit.
Yeah, and I, and I, T.I. is a friend of mine.
I love him to death.
Funny as hell.
I can see why he went to do stand-up
because off the stage, he's hilarious.
But stand-up,
because I've been doing it so long,
it requires a certain amount of time
to be able to do it.
Yeah.
The old saying is it takes 10 years
to become a real stand-up.
Yeah.
And they say that is because it's such a repetitious business.
Yeah.
It's like you have to do it so many times
to get the rhythm of it.
Yeah.
And get the timing down.
That's the most important part about stand-up.
Yeah.
It's timing.
Because some people think it's telling the joke,
but the joke's no good without the timing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, the hour is no good without the timing.
The punchline is no good without the timing.
The setup is no good without the timing.
All of them are on a time-constricted base.
you only have a certain amount of time to do everything
to get it off.
In a stand-up act.
Yeah.
You know.
And it's mental.
That's why you said, oh, eight men that's felt like
because it's so mental.
Yeah, it felt like forever up there.
Yeah, because you're thinking about that.
Because you're up there thinking about the time.
Why are you doing it?
Yeah.
And that does, it shit happens to me,
and I've been doing it for 30 years.
Yeah, yeah.
You know?
Do you remember, can you talk about a show that you did where you bombed?
Yeah.
Like, what was it?
What city?
Where was this?
I was in Rochester, New York.
I told the crowd, give it up, clap it up.
And they clap.
I said, for my dick.
And they said, they went silent.
And I said, no, I'm just, I'm just bullshit.
And they said, boo, they're like, no.
You can't come back from that.
And I got that shit from a friend of mine.
He was a comedian in their face, man.
I don't know if he'd do comedy no more.
But the shit worked for him.
But that shit didn't work for me.
I said, I'll never tell that joke again.
That's what I get for stealing.
That's fucked up when you steal a car and can't drive it.
Oh, my God.
That must have been like a.
such a
humiliating thing
like because then you had
if that was in the very beginning
how long was this set
how long was it set
maybe like 10 minutes or so
or was it like a fool?
No it was they booed me
as soon as I said that
it was over with
oh so you got
you got off stage
I just dropped the mic
and said fuck y'all
they're like
fuck you,
my god
put the fuck off the stage
oh my God
and I was like
This is real.
Yeah.
This shit is real.
Yeah, man.
You know.
Oh, that's crazy, bro.
At the time I was trying to build my audience,
it was the worst time to do some shit like that.
Whoever thought they was my fan wasn't a fan at that moment no more.
Yeah.
Well, this has been a great episode.
The next part of the show, this is the end where I get up to called the wrap-up.
Yeah.
And pretty much, I just ask you some rap-and-fire questions.
Let's go.
So, what's one thing that you?
you geek out about that might surprise people.
I ride unicycles.
Really?
I ride little ones, tall ones.
I stop doing it because people think I'm a clown when I do it.
So I was like, I never seen nobody underestimate me after I jump.
Like literally, when I get, if somebody see me on that shit, I don't know what it is,
but they start fucking with me.
Start talking shit, saying stupid shit to me.
you know, they just start thinking I'm a fucking play toy.
So I stop fucking riding them in front of people.
I'll ride them by myself because I don't want people fucking with me.
They think literally, they like, they start saying, this dude's a joke.
And I'm like, no, I'm not.
Motherfucker, I ride one wheel.
But I still fuck you up.
You know, they start saying shit like, you should have been in the son.
I'm like, no, I'm doing what the fuck I was born to do.
stand-up comedy and movies.
Don't start that fucking shit
because I ride a fucking one-wheel bike.
That don't take nothing from me
because I ride a one-wheel bike.
I'm still a good father.
I'm still a good person.
I'm not a fucking clown.
And I just stop riding them in front of people, man.
You know, I go in places where nobody's at
and I ride my unicycle.
This thing is stupid.
I was just looking at you.
I was just like, yeah.
That's true, bro.
I'm like, yeah.
If you see me in on the fucking unicycle, leave me to fuck alone.
That's a talent that you can't get paid from.
Oh, my God.
My stomach hurt, man.
Oh, my God.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Okay.
What do you think is the funniest curse word?
It's kind of like, oh, what would you think is the funniest curse word?
combination of curse words.
Because it's really like,
that's where the art comes from,
you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like how somebody finesses their
profanity, you know?
Fuck out of here is really funny to me.
I don't know why, but
fuck out of here is hilarious.
I love it.
Yeah.
It says so much.
I love fuckhead.
Fuck head.
It's funny.
It's funny.
Fuck head.
I got to get used to that one.
Fuck head.
I'm going to have to do it like a fuck hand.
And sucker butt is one another one of that.
A sucker butt.
That's somebody that's a sucker.
And, you know,
sucker butt.
Oh, my God.
Somebody that sucks ass.
Sucker butt motherfucker.
One of my friends was like, what does that mean?
like, what does it say?
Shit.
I have to write it down.
What the fuck does...
Separate the words and add it up, nigger.
You suck ass.
You're an ass sucker.
Oh, my God.
Like Tupac said, everybody kissing ass ain't going to heaven.
Oh, shit.
For all you ass suckers out there,
your nickname is suck a butt
oh my god
okay
we gotta do a song
called sucker butt man
yeah
oh my God
I need to be on it
I need to be on it
okay
oh shit
you're a sucker butt
a sucker butt
a sucker butt
a sucker butt
You're a sucker and your butt.
A sucker butt.
Don't-Dun-D-D-D-T-K-D-T-K-D-T-T-D-T-T-T-D-T-T-D-T-T-Ling on the beach.
Trying to get it on, get it in.
Talking all that shit while I'm sipping on my yak.
Then this bitch-nigger comes in talking that.
I tell him, hold up.
Use your sucker butt.
Get out my face before I fuck you up.
I don't really have a time for the business.
Talking shit, we're about to get with us.
butt doong
sucking ass all over the world
you're a sucker butt
you've been sucking butt
since you've been in the world
you're a sucker butt
Oh my gosh
so you see I gotta be on the comedy album
Oh you got to man
I got the chops
I got the chops say
What are some items
that you have to have on your tour writer
Tito's
Backwoods.
Titos, backwoods.
Titos, backwoods.
Some Fiji water.
Fiji water.
Fruit.
Yeah.
Chicken wings.
Nice.
Gum.
Listerine.
Hand sanitizer.
Yep.
And my homies.
I got to have them on the rider.
I put them on the rider.
Yeah.
All my friends.
At the end of the food.
Our friends.
I love it.
I love it.
If you could travel back in time to see one musician or band live in their prime, who would it be?
I wish I could see James Brown live.
Same.
Fucking incredible.
Some of the videos I see you.
Yeah, some of it sit on YouTube.
Electric.
You've seen that one video where Michael was in the performance.
And then Michael tells him that Prince is there and he's like, Prince is here, Prince comes down.
And then Prince coming to the stage on that dude's shoulders.
He's like piggyback riding on the dude on the security shoulders.
You never seen it?
I haven't seen that.
Bro.
I got to see you.
There's a video.
Did Prince get on the stage?
Did Prince get on the stage and started playing guitar and whatever?
You know what I'm saying?
Him and Michael and James were on the stage?
Yes, bro.
Wow.
Bro, it was.
I'm going to Google that.
Like first he got Michael get up there and then you can see Michael be like whispered in his ear like,
Prince is here too, you know?
And he's like, Prince, come up here.
Prince come down.
He's a little tiny guy, right?
And the security guard is massive.
And he's literally on his shoulders.
Like on his shoulder.
Not like on his back, on his shoulders.
Balls on the back of his neck.
Little balls.
You know he's little.
He had little balls.
Two little marbles on your neck.
Two little hot marbles on your neck.
You know he has some leather pants.
on two Prince hot marbles on your neck
and a little hot link
a little potter's hot link
a hot link
two hot marbles on your neck
how does that feel?
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
What is the best joke you've heard
that made you jealous you didn't write it?
Richard Pryor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He had a lot of them I wish I wrote.
A lot of some jokes, you got to live them to tell them.
You can't fucking hear it and see it.
You got to fucking live it to tell it.
Yeah, yeah.
It just don't work unless you lived it.
Yeah, it doesn't.
I could give you a joke to go tell.
Again, the audience is like a dog.
They're like, he heard that shit somewhere.
They know.
They can call bullshit instantly.
All day.
They can call bullshit.
Favorite venue you've ever performed that?
I played a place called the Beacon in New York
Back in the day
And it was so intimate
And the vibe in there
Was so, I don't know what it was about the beacon on Broadway
But that was one of the shows that I'll never forget
That was like the first show that I
If a New York audience liked me
I'm fucking cool
Yeah
Because they don't like their self
The motherfuckers is mean to each other
So I know they're going to be mean to me.
You know.
New Yorkers laugh different too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What house of?
Huh?
Like in what way?
They laugh and talk to you why they laugh.
They're like, yo, get the fuck out of here.
Yo, are you serious?
I'm like, yes, I just said it.
You know, New Yorkers talk to you when they laugh.
Muffolks be laughing.
and look at you and say, no way!
I'm like, yes, motherfucker.
You want me tell you again?
Shit, I just said it.
My fucker, that is true.
I just, my fuck, just start laughing.
This is...
What are your top five favorite comedy movies of all time?
Top five comedy movies.
I got to say which way is up?
Okay.
Richard Pryor.
A piece of the action.
Sidney Portier.
Bill Cosby
Eddie Murphy's Delirious
Martin Lawrence
Thin Line
Oh
Love that movie
That's my shit
The fifth one I gotta say
It was a movie called
Jankey Promoters
Me and Ice Cube
We played some dirty promoters
That shit was so gutter
Yeah man
And raw
Yeah
And that was a movie
That was a movie that I really love
and I didn't get
paid on it.
It doesn't matter.
It was a Harvey Weinstein movie.
Oh, no.
So the movie went to jail with him.
Him and all his movies went to jail at the same time.
I'm like, damn.
Can his movies stay free?
What's your biggest moonshot, a goal, a dream,
or ambition that might seem impossible that you haven't accomplished yet?
I think I would love to become a, this is going to sound crazy.
But I always wanted to be a belly dancer.
When I was a kid, I used to put quarters in my belly and make it flip.
And this shit sounds crazy as hell, but.
No, I'm just bullshit.
Yeah, I know.
I was like, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a sit here and let him explain this.
You got to lose your bullshit.
belly to do this fucking job.
I was just like, I never seen a fat belly dancer.
The little fucking quarter of just roll off your fucking stomach.
No, you know what?
I could have did every, that's one thing about me.
I could have became anything I wanted to become.
Yeah.
When I was a kid, I could literally do everything.
Yeah.
And I tried everything, you know, that I thought I could try, you know.
At one point when I was a kid, I wanted to.
to be an Indian because we always played cowboys and Indians and I never wanted to be a white man.
So I chose to be Tonto.
So I thought for years I was going to be an Indian.
I thought I was going to grow up and be an Indian.
And then I did my Ancestry.com and found out I had no Indian in me and I was 30% white.
So all this time I've been thinking I'm like, I've been talking about white people and telling people I'm a real.
real nigger and I went and did Ancestry.com and found out I was 15% Irish and Icelandic.
Black Irish.
So all that shit went out the door.
So now I'm trying to find my white cousins.
I got some white cousins out there, man, that I need to hook up with.
So no more racism.
I'm white.
But I could have became everything.
I tried to be a drug dealer one time and went to prison, very young.
And so I was an unsuccessful thug.
Never was a snitch.
I can honestly live with myself because of that.
Never snitched on no drug dealers or nothing.
but I wanted to be in the NBA when I was a kid
and never had the grades to get on the team.
Right.
And I'd never forget my mother,
black mothers are unapologetically naive.
Yeah.
And I used to come home and tell my mother
that the NBA was at the school watching me.
I told my mom that she literally believed it.
Oh, shit.
She said, for real.
I said, yeah, they were up there checking me out.
And I was only like in the seventh grade.
So I doubt that the NBA is watching any seventh graders right now or even then.
Really back then.
What's really, really crazy?
I had a goal one time.
One of my biggest goals one time in my life, swear to you, didn't want nothing more than that,
was to pay my fucking bills.
I'll feel you.
I feel this.
I swear to God, bro.
I feel this.
When I was young, one of my biggest goals, if I could have just paid my bills, I didn't want nothing else.
Yeah.
It's like you're golden if you could do that.
Ain't that some shit?
I couldn't even look past the fucking bills.
Yeah.
That's when I knew real life was the best thing you could ever have.
Yeah.
And it took me to become famous.
To realize that.
It took me to become famous to realize that life in itself is the best success you could have.
Yeah.
That's real talk.
Real talk.
And all the other shit literally means nothing.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
I'm like, damn.
The fact that I became a human being out of all those sperms who race to the egg.
I won.
I'm successful.
I became human.
Damn right.
I didn't go in a napkin or down in the toilet or in a condom.
I literally became a human.
So that in itself was success.
Celebration.
That's success.
To become human.
Damn right.
To get a chance to live on this earth.
That's right.
You know what I mean?
To wake up and.
and do what we love.
Fuck everything else is like,
no matter how many years I lived,
whether they were short or long,
I can honestly say,
I was human before.
Yeah.
I lived.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Experienced it all.
I experienced life.
You know, because I'm pretty sure
there's some sperm's just mad
that they just didn't become human
sitting in some of them.
man's balls like just mad like
fuck
I didn't win the race
I'm back up again
just pissed
just pissed
and you know how many
no good motherfuckers
won that race
and became human
and wasn't shit
they beat out a sperm
that was going to become
the president
a bullshit
sperm beat a
president's sperm and became a
motherfucker on the earth that
steal rob and kill.
I'm like, damn.
That's life.
That's life.
It's life.
That's life.
L-I-F-E.
Bro.
Thanks for coming today, man.
Thank you, man.
This was awesome, man.
Thank you for having you, for sure, for sure.
Man.
Big bro.
Don't start with big bro.
Hey.
Big bro.
Don't cut nothing, big bro.
Roll it all out.
Roll it all out.
Hey, hey, uh, hey, uh, hey, uh, hey, hey, uh, hey.
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