Big Bro with Kid Cudi - Tim Meadows on SNL, Chris Farley, Adam Sandler and Becoming The Ladies Man

Episode Date: September 16, 2026

Welcome back to another episode of Big Bro! Tim Meadows pulled up to The Attic, and we got into one of those conversations that goes everywhere in the best way! We talked about his time on Saturday Night Live, the characters and comedians that shaped him, and the stories behind some of his funniest performances. Then I! We got into modern dating questions, red flags, overnight bags, and who should pick up the check. Kick back and enjoy the conversation. subscribe for new eps of Big Bro launch every Wednesday 🚀 https://www.youtube.com/@BigBroCudi Big Bro is a Wave Original.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for more good vibes, tune in everywhere @bigbrocudi ⁠⁠instagram.com/bigbrocudi⁠⁠ ⁠⁠tiktok.com/@bigbrocudi #kidcudi #bigbrocudi Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Wave. I'm sampling your bit. This is marijuana. You don't want no part of this shit. I'm going to have that whole bit before a song, right? Me and Sandler, I was Captain Jim. He was Pedro. And we had been shipwrecked for months.

And we were applying for a job at Foot Locker. But me and Rock were watching Bruce Springsteen rehearsed. Every time he did the song, he just kicked the fuck out of it. And Rock leaned over and he goes, I get it. now. And then every check after that is used it. 25, 75. 75 is me.

75 is her. Then I might go, third date is 30, 70. What's good, y'all? Welcome back to Big Bro with Kit Cutty. I'm your Big Bro, Scott, coming to you live from the attic in my mind. Today, our guest is a comedic legend. the ladies man himself, Tim motherfucking Meadows. Now me and Tim, we go way back about 14 years I've known this man.

For mean girls to walk hard, Tim has always been a scene stealer. We talk about some of the funniest SNL sketches and stories of all time. So kickback, vibe out, and enjoy. See you on the other side. Okay. The legendary Tim Meadows is at Big Bro today. Thank you for doing this, bro. It's my pleasure.

Man, like, people don't know we've been friends for, like, 14 years. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I remember I was, like, talking to my team at the time, and I was like, man, I really, because I had been in the game for maybe, like, four years at the time. And I was just like, I want to, certain people I really want to meet, you know, and, like, Tim Meadows was at the top of my list, you know? I'm laughing because I'm surprised at that.

That's not. Oh, dude, don't be surprised, man. And that's why you're here, man, because while you're here, I'm going to be giving you your flowers, bro. Uh-oh. Okay? I hope you can handle this. But before we go on, I want you to read your email that you sent to me in response. I'm going to read you what I sent.

All right. It's pretty funny because, uh, hold on, wait. You want to say something? Well, I was just going to say, let me, I was going to preface this by saying that when my manager sent me an email and said, asked me, did I want to meet you or talk. talk to you. Yeah. And then I said, yeah. Like, that was immediately my email back to my manager.

So I was like, yeah, because I was a fan. And so the idea that you knew, you know, like reached out to me or whatever was I was really, like, surprised by it. So I just want to get that out there. Like, I was a fan of yours. And you didn't know I was a fan of yours. No, I didn't. So when I got to ask, I was like, yes, definitely want to meet him.

So, okay, go ahead. Yeah. So this is even going to be even funny after that. Because, all right, so my email was, because I got his email, I sent an email, I said, hey, Tim, it's Cuddy. I just want to say I'm a huge, and this is with mad you's and G's and E's, huge fan of yours, and it is an honor to finally get a chance to meet you. You are a legend in comedy and in blackness.

Ha, ha, ha. Let me know if you'd like to get a coffee soon. you know, I got an idea I'd like to run by you. I don't understand why I say let's get a coffee because I don't drink coffee.

Like maybe at that time I was like dabbling. In coffee? Yeah, like because I really don't fuck with coffee. Yeah. But here you go. Here's, you're at the top.

This whole top thing. Boy, oh boy. Hey, Cuddy, when my manager told me he said a guy named Scott, I said, no thanks. Then he looked at the email and said,

Kid Cuddy, I fucking gasped. I listened to Up, Up, Up, and Away almost every day. I'm headed to Chicago tomorrow for a week to see my kids. I'll be back here on 712. Let me know we can plan something. Regardless, keep up the good work. TM. That's what I wrote.

Oh, man. You see, now, guys, People that know me, they know that S&L raised me, right? And Tim was my big brother on television, you know? And my whole career has been a dream. I have been blessed to meet a lot of my heroes, you know, and Tim is one of them. Do you remember our dinner date in Chicago? In Chicago, yeah.

Was that the first time we went out? That was the first time we met in the flesh. Do you know where do we go? I don't remember the name. name in a restaurant. But it was, it was, you pick me up in your, in your, in your bins, you pick me up, this is when I was living in Chicago at the time, pick me up from my apartment, oh my God, had a joint in the astray, and we smoked and then we went to dinner. And I remember just sitting there and it was such a surreal moment to be. I took you to try to rea Roma.

That was, that's, it was an Italian restaurant. Yeah, yeah, I was about to say it was pasta or something. Yeah. Yep, yep. So for me in that moment to be sitting across from you breaking bread, like just talking and just getting to know one another was a huge moment for me. Wow. You know what I mean?

Like I never, that dinner was such a highlight in my life. And I don't think you realized that at the time. Yeah. You know what I mean? But it was the coolest experience. So I just wanted to brief you guys on how. me and Tim met, you know, and here we are all these years later. Yeah.

But congrats on all your success. Thank you. Well, that's, you know, I remember that now that you are reminded me, I do remember we went to that, Tritory Aroma, which is a restaurant in Chicago that I love. I think it's closed down. But when I started out in Chicago doing improv, the restaurant, that the people that own it, one of our friends worked there as a waiter and they used to feed us we were a bunch of broke actors oh wow and so every day almost like a few times a week the owner of the restaurant would be

trying out new dishes for the menu or whatever and so he would go yeah you know bring your friends by it and so we would he would put out a big spread for us to eat oh that's so cool and so I always love that about that dude and so anytime I would have any kind of event or something where I got family for dinner or people I want to talk to I would go there because they would treat me great. Well, I feel very special. Yeah, it was very cool. And also remember we were the only two

black people in the whole room. It was packed. Do you remember walking out as soon as we walked out of the restaurant. We were standing about to get into the car and then somebody walked by and was like, oh, Leon Phelps! And I was just like, oh shit.

Yeah. Does that happen a lot? That happens, yeah, that happens a lot. And honestly, you know, Don Cheadle happens a lot, which is he and I. That was so funny with your post that you did. Everybody was doing what I was like in the 90s. His was the best one. Yeah.

Like, it was hilarious. That was my wife's idea. It was her idea. She did it. Shout out your wife, man. That was genius. She, and yeah, and I know him. But yeah, it happens so.

much that I just have gotten used to it. Yeah. And sometimes when people are like super nice or super complimentary to me on the street, I sort of want to make sure do they know who they're talking to? Because he's such a great actor. And I think, well, if he's getting these compliments, then it should be like for the person. You know what I mean?

Yeah. So sometimes I'll ruin people's shit because I go, no, it's not me. Like they'll go, yeah, I loved you in Hotel Rwanda and they'll talk about the project. And I'll go, yeah, yeah, that's not me. But thank you so much. And I agree with you. He was great in that movie, you know. But, yeah, Leon Phelps, that happens a lot.

I mean, you know, but shouting in Chicago is the worst. In Chicago is the worst, though. But it felt like, it literally felt like I was in a movie, like a movie like there was a, a mockumentary of some sort, you know what I mean? And we just, like, walked out of the restaurant, and immediately there was just some guy. Yeah. Good night, Mr. Meadows. Yeah, good night.

Nice to meet you, Kit Cuddy. Leon Phelps! I got to go. But nice meeting of you, man. Let's talk about the ladies' man. Okay. Because this film, for me, I remember I was in high school. I was in 11th grade.

and this movie rocked my world. Now, I was familiar with the sketch on SNL. Talk to me about a little how this movie went from sketch to feature film. Well, it went from crank phone call to sketch to feature film, basically. I used to make crank phone calls with that character for my own entertainment. And, yeah. I would go, I'd call, like, but I would also call friends, people that I knew. And so I didn't want to do the voice on the show because I didn't want people that I would know it was me.

Because I would call people and, like, get into, like, confrontational, like, arguments with, like, people I knew or people that, like, or pizza, restaurant or whatever. But, yeah, that was how it started to entertain my ex-wife at the time, girlfriend. But yeah, it would be just like, yeah, listen, I was wondering, now, you guys got pepperoni pizza that's pitherea. Yeah, we do. Good, listen, I'll take 12. No, not 12. Just one. One really thick pepperoni pizza.

And sometimes. Not 12. One. Yeah, just one. I don't know why I said 12. I guess I was hungry. But listen, let's break it down. And so, I would.

do that he would laugh and then the fun thing was that whoever delivered the pizza would be expecting and then it would be my you know ex-wife at the door getting the pizza and he'd be like where is that you know a dude and she was

like oh I don't know whatever but so yeah and then and so one summer I had did a huge prank that I worked on calling radio stations and I would tape it and play it back

and I was putting together like a bunch of different compilation and so I got to SNL that fall and all of my friends were talking about what they did that summer

and they were like I did a movie I did toward the country and I was like I put together a compilation tape of fucking you know crank phone calls

that I did and so I told some of the writers about it and Harper Steele and Dennis McNicholas. And I was like, because they were like, how did you get away with it?

You know? And I was like, oh, yeah, I do this voice. And I started doing it for them in their office. And I was like, well, if you guys got anything for that voice or, you know, I don't know what it is. It's just this thing, you know. And then I went in my office and like not even five minutes later. They knocked on the door my office.

And Harper goes, don't tell anybody else about that voice, that character. We got it. We got an idea for it. It's a call-in show. You give advice. You give bad advice. You're a person from the 70s, and that's where all of your knowledge of love and how the day comes from. And it'll be a call-in show.

And I was like, all right. And then that Tuesday night, you know, we didn't, I don't even think we pitched it during the pitch meeting. We just was like, he, they wanted it to be a secret. And it was great, smart, because at the show, you don't want to burn out any comic. idea that you have. Right. So the first time anybody really heard the voice was at the read through table.

And people were just like, holy shit, who was, what is he doing? You know? And whenever you can make Lauren like belly laugh or double over laughing, like you know you got something good. Yeah, definitely. And so, yeah, there was no doubt it was in the show. We didn't put the host in it. We were very selfish.

It was, we were just like, this is the three of us. the three of us, this is our thing and we're going to bring the cast in to do phone calls and stuff like that. That's so dope. Yeah, it was fun. And then from there, I mean, wasn't it the first S&L movie? No, no.

It was the last. I shut the franchise down. It said it was the last. No, it was, I don't know, it was a bunch of other ones. I mean, it's hard to sort of category. I mean, because there was like the cone heads and Wayne's World.

Yeah, yeah, okay, okay. All those movies. But it, and then even during our years in that show, it was the, like they did Roxbury guys. They did Mary Catherine. Yep. And then they did the ladies man after that. Yeah. And then I think they stopped until they did like, you know, hot rod or something like that.

One of those other, like, lonely island guys. Man, I, this next bit is going to be a really fun bit. It's great that you did the voice. because we're going to use that for our next bit. Okay. All right. We're going to ask you modern dating questions, and you have to respond as Leon Phelps. Okay?

And you know, I love you. That's the only reason I'm doing that. Because I don't do this for, I wouldn't do this for anybody. Nobody gets the Leon Phelps. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

I feel so special right now. This is going to be good. And I'm stoned. This is going to be great. Oh, my God. Me too, just a little. Nice, nice. Okay.

What's your biggest red flag, Leon? Yeah, my biggest red flag is like wounds. Like if a lady is hurt in any type of way when I meet her, I'm really not into that because that means you got to go. First date is like an emergency room. And what I'm going to do is sit around an emergency room all day waiting for this woman to get healed. So, yeah, that's number one. one red flag to me with any kind of wound

be a knife or a bullet any kind of unheeled wound like fitches you know things like that okay

do I have to keep a straight face okay okay I'm not in character okay pick up the check or go 50-50 yes

pick up the check or go 50-50 usually on first date I will happily pick up the check. And then I will say to the lady, okay, get ready, set, run. And then we run.

That's the first date. And now I will pick that up. And then every check after that is usually 25, 75, 75 is me, 75 is her. Then I might go, third date is 30, 70. And then fourth date might be 25. 75 somewhere along that line and the high number is hers and then we see what happened

after that. Okay. Yeah. What is in your overnight bag? Let's see. Overnight bag, condoms. And then there is Cologne. I have very small bottles of Cavaithier

like from the airplane. They're the cutest ones. I like to talk to them sometimes. I go like, you're a baby. Who gave birth to you. Was it a quarter of cabotier or like a gallon size? But you is the cutest. It's all have like

12 adults in there. And that's my overnight. And then I have my field pajamas, swimming trunks, just in case we decided to go swimming. You never know. That might happen. You know, you'd be anywhere in the city and find a pool. Yeah, that's better. That's how my dating

life here. Okay. Okay. If you had to create a dating profile, what would your three selling points be? Ooh, that's a good question that kid, Cuddy. My three selling points would be houseboat. The answer is yes. I do have one. Second thing will be yoga. I love to do yoga. I can put my leg behind my head. Really?

Yep. Like a doll. Like, you know, like Barbie, like with his guy, hips right here and just bends, I can do that with both my leg. And it's very beneficial in the sexual positions that I'm learning how to do. I'm going to Asia on the trip. I'll tell you about that later. Anyways, and what else is in my overnight bag? And what was your question here? That's good.

That's good. That's perfect. Thank you so much, man. Yeah, you're welcome. I mean, yeah, you're welcome. Oh man, all my friends from high school are going to love this. They're going to love this. Oh, my God.

So this is, let's talk about S&L, your time there. Okay. You spent 30 years there. 30 years. Oh. Yeah. Tell me who your favorite musical guest and hosts were. Because, man, you had some great.

Yeah. talent come through there man um yeah i mean really like there was there were moments like seeing tina turner yes she's just like everybody else where she would you got to do the song a few times ought to get sound and music you know lighting and stuff set yeah and every time she did it she did it like a hundred percent she was not fucking around you know so it was great watching her because i was like i saw her when i was a kid like on television you know what i mean yeah so it was like i can't even believe that i'm in the same room with tina turner yeah david boy was another one where it was like somebody that i like really

like growing up and i just knew musically i was like oh shit david boy you know yeah so seeing him and paul mccartney was great i was pretty wild watching him like during that time bruce springsteing blew my mind seriously like i was like me and rock were watching him rehearse. I got a couple of Bruce Springsteen stories. And I know that's your crowd. They love these. But me and Rock were watching Bruce Springsteen rehearsed.

And it was sort of a closed set. And like, you know, you go in on Thursday or whatever and do the music over and over. And we were just watching him. And he did the songs, you know, like five times. All did 110%. like walking and doing it back to the mic turning his back to the other guitar player and jamming together and talking to the drummer while he's jamming every time he did the song he just kicked the fuck out of it and rock leaned over and he goes i get it now yeah no shit i get it now like this dude is on another level like you know what i mean he takes it serious and that was a good thing about working there too was that you saw how professional professional people like yourself. That's how you work.

Get it on how they get it on. Yeah, you do it. You do it all. You do it consistently. You do it good, you know. So yeah. Yeah, what about hosts? For me, like the first one that blew my mind that I was like, I can't believe I'm talking to this guy and he's laughing at my pitch with Steve Martin. I was like, holy shit. Like I pitch an idea and Steve Martin was like, oh, yeah, okay. I was like, but we don't have to. I was like, I don't know how to react to that, you know, because it was not, I thought

he would just be stoned, you know. Yeah. And so, and Alec Baldwin also was really great. Like, for me as a writer, he was, like, my best, like, muse, like, as a host. Like, I could think of things for Alec Baldwin. Like, he was just think of things comedically, and he could do it. Yeah. And so if you had ideas that were weird,

Or, you know, whatever, topical character-driven, whatever, he can handle it. He can handle it. Yeah, so it was great. What was your favorite Chris Farley sketch? Van Dyne by the River. Yeah. Yeah, Matt Foley was my favorite. Yeah.

On the show. But, like, we worked in Second City together before we both got SNL. And I was in the Matt Foley sketch in Second City. I was the son in the Matt Foley sketch. Nice. And I got to watch Farrell's do that sketch every night for a year or something. And his focus, once we got the sketch up and running and everything, his focus every night was to make one of us or all of us laugh and break the scene. And so he would just go at it, man.

And just like I was saying with Bruce Springsteen, like every night, he fucking would go 100%. And then he would just do something new and something whatever. And like in that sketch, he was supposed, like I was the writer and he was like the kid who was, I hear you going to be a writer. Oh, that's great. What do I got? Fucking William Shakespeare. He was looking at me over his glasses. You know what?

You're going to, you know, you're going to do a lot of writing when you're living in a van down by the real. I'm going to come live with you. It's going to be me, me and you, pal. And I would go, no, no. And he would go, yeah. And then we'd pick me up, like, on a Friday night, or whatever. He would just pick me up and, like, lift me and put me on his shoulders and, like, throw me around and stuff while I was screaming. No, I don't want you to move in, you know.

Or he would, he would just do whatever. He was just always, it was really fun watching him work, you know. Yeah, man. He was one of my best friends. And, like, there were other things that, like, there were other things that. Like, yeah, like seeing him do on the show. I remember watching him do this thing with Sandler that was the, what was it, the Hurley He boy or something like that.

Where it was like, it was like Sandler asking to house at somebody's house. And he was like, come on, just let me, let me house at your house. And Farley was like, come on, why don't you let the boy watch your house? There's nothing wrong with it. And he's just talking to the camera. And then Sarah was like, don't worry, I'm not going to touch anything. I'm not going to break anything. Yeah, what do you think he's going to do?

Break your home? You know, I hardly would yell that. And I remember watching it from the floor and just my stomach was hurting from laughing because he just was trying to make people laugh. You know, he was great. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, yeah. This episode is sponsored by Better Help.

Being present with family and friends is something I'm always working on being better at. When life is moving fast, it's easy to be in the same room but still have your mind somewhere else. I'm thinking about a song, checking my phone, or brainstorming on the next project I'm producing. The older I get, the more I realize those everyday moments with friends and family are the ones that matter the most. Being fully present with your loved ones can really help you feel better and allows you to create one lasting memory at a time. That's why I like the idea that better doesn't have to mean perfect. Better is a feeling defined by you. And for better help, it's a better health therapist who really gets you.

It's a focus on global, emotional well-being, with thousands of therapists and millions of members, in over 100 countries. It's progress and it's getting better at being present. Sign up and get 10% off at betterhelp.com slash big bro. That's better

h-elp.com slash big bro. Now, back to the show. I want to talk about the times you came to listen to my albums. Yes. I remember when you came to hear Indicud

and you were blown away. Yeah. Yeah. And I was very excited it because this was before I had really paid it for anyone, right? And I reached out to Tim because I was like, man, I want fresh ears on it. I know Tim likes my music, so I would love to just see his reaction to it because I produced it all myself, never did that before.

And Tim came through, we listened to the album, and it's kind of been a tradition now. That's great. You know what I mean? We kind of just sit back and listen to the albums together. Yeah. And I have another album that I won't mention the title of, but after this, I'll let you know what it is. Okay. And we're going to listen to the album about the new stuff.

Okay. Because I'm really curious to know what you think. I'd love to. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like just seeing, when we were playing Indicud, I was just, after every song, you were just like, what the fuck? And I kept asking, my questions were like, well, I loved, especially like, the cut with. with Wu-Tang.

Rizza, yeah. That one, that's on my list of songs. Like, oh, yeah, if I want to get pumped up, like, I play that a lot. But, yeah, I, you know, I'm like listening or watching somebody's art with them in the room is like, I know what it's like because that's what we've done. Like, you would read a sketch and everybody sitting and listen to it. So I wasn't like, it wasn't an impossible thing for me to do. do like I dug it actually yeah it would have been hard if I didn't like it you know what I mean but I think I would have been honest with you about like oh I don't understand that or I think that's

offensive but I but I but I knew what if I said that to you yeah I think that's offensive I want that you know three songs in I think you should cut it off and I think um you use Sandler's voice yes I did on immortal yeah I'm not a animal or something what was I'm the smartest man a lot yes I'm the And he, you know, that was actually the first time that I engaged with Adam in some way. Yeah. Because I didn't meet him until we did Happy Gilmore, too, right? Yeah. But he cleared that immediately.

Like usually when you send something out like that to get cleared, it's like months. Yeah. Right? Because they got to find the actor. The actor has to actually listen to the song and like clear it, right? He cleared that immediately. And he gave me the rights to perform it live. That's great.

So, like, he was super supportive. Yeah. And, you know, like I said, like I grew up, watched you guys on TV. That was a big deal for me. Yeah. Like, having him on that album and that was, and my fans love that moment, you know? And, like, if I do that song on tour and they hear that, I'm this smart as much, people are going to go crazy. Yeah.

I'm actually mad. I didn't think about that, man. Like, I could have totally did Immortal on this last tour. Yeah. But don't worry. I got y'all. I got you. I'm going to keep that in mind. Well, I, and I told you, and like I said in the email there back in the day, but I still up, up in the way, it was when I listened to it every day.

And I got to tell you, man, like, it was like the thing that I loved about it and the thing that, because there was a point where I was going out to do improv and learning how to do stand-up. And I was doing stand-up. And it's a point where you're like, you can't run from the audience and you can't run from your art. And because it would stand up, everything that you say that you write is how you feel. And it's like, you know, they're going to judge what you say by because it's coming from you. Right. And so in that up up in a way, the idea of they're going to judge me anyways.

So I don't give a fuck. I'm just going to do what the fuck I want to do. That right. to make myself happy because if I'm trying to make everybody else happy, I'm, I'm creating art that's not satisfying. It's not satisfying for me. So that song, I got to tell you, dude, I listen to it all the time. Like when I'm getting ready to do stand-up, your song, MF Doom is one of the other

songs I play all the time. Because I play it before I go, you know, get on stage because I just remind myself, like, it doesn't matter. Yeah. It doesn't matter. They can love me. They're going to hate me. They're going to do what they're going to do.

I'm going to do what I'm going to do. So thank you for that. Oh, I love that. And also for me as an older dude, hearing that sentiment come from a younger artist is like inspiring. Because it's like, oh, yeah, I don't, I'm not only just inspired by Nirvana or whatever or fucking Al Green. I'm inspired by somebody that's like younger than me.

Yeah. Who had a moment and a thought. They put on record. And this old dude. was walking and listening to it every day. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah.

I think, man, that's so powerful because, you know, you think about, you know, especially those earlier records, you know, like the Up in the Ways and soundtrack to my lives and all those from the first two albums. Yeah. Those really resonated with people because of the uplifting nature the songs had. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.

And then Man on the Moon, too, went somewhere else. and I was dealing with a lot of stuff and stuff like that. But it was, you know, important for me to record these feelings, whether people thought it was entertainment or not. For me, it wasn't entertainment. It was just making an audio fucking diary, basically. Yeah. You know, we hear about a lot of the times how the music affects the kids, right,

the younger generation. But I think in your case is a perfect example how adults can connect to it too. You know what I mean? And even people older than me can still connect with the message. Yeah. You know, because I believe that when I first started, I was saying things in a way on wax that had never been said before in hip-hop. You know what I mean? And for me, I didn't think that I was saying anything profound by saying everything that shines ain't always going to be gold.

but that is a powerful sentiment coming from a 25 year old. Yeah. You know I mean? Yeah. So like... And the idea that everything is going to be all right once I get that. Yeah. But like it's not.

Exactly. That's their thing. Well, that's why that song was called Nightmare. Yeah. Because it was meant to not be, you know, so it was really the idea of being stuck in a loop of madness, of destruction. Mm-hmm. You know, self-destruction. Yeah.

But it's a beautiful thing to see that all these years later, that song is uplifting for people. Yeah. You know, like people found that the original message has gotten translated to joy and celebration. Yeah. You know, and that took me a minute to adjust to like understand what was going on. Hmm. But. It's therapeutic.

Yeah. And also, too, you can't. once you deal like your kids man once you once you make a song and put it out in the world it has its own life like whatever people interpret the shit as that's what it is yeah that's their truth yeah you know what I mean yeah and that's the first time I actually learned that through my music was with pursuit of happiness where going in it was one mindset and then it was interpreted another way yeah you know yeah um but yeah No, that's, that's dope, man.

Yeah. Well, I, well, you welcome. I remember talking to you, too, and I was, I think it was when I was at your house, and I was like, I don't understand how do you come up with this? Like, I was just, and this was a dumb question, and the woman that I was with later, we, like, laughed about this question, but I go, how do you, like, that bump, bump, bump, like, why that? And you were like, I don't know, I just thought of it, and it sounds good.

there. And I was like, yeah, I guess that's what it is. It's just, you're a musician and that's what it is. And then later we were laughing about it because she was just like, that's, yeah, that's what musicians do. They just, they make music, you know, just like, you write a joke or whatever. And that's, yeah, that's what you do. It's literally, it's literally the same beast because yeah, I did stand up several months back, right? Oh, really? For the first time, dude. Yeah. And I have it recorded. I'm going to send it to you. Eight minutes set.

Yeah. Real short and sweet. Yeah. I was a surprise guest. No one knew I was there. Yeah. The preparation for that made me feel a lot like preparation as a musician getting ready for a performance. Mm-hmm.

You know. Except the only difference is. with comedy, especially in my situation where I'm a surprise and no one knows I'm going to be there, right? You really have no idea what crowd you're going to get. Yeah. Energy. You don't know what people don't know, especially when you're not known as a comedian. So that's one thing I got going for me is that people don't know me for this. You know, so they see me come out and they're just like, what the fuck? Yeah.

You know what I mean? Yeah. So it's just how did it go? How did you feel? Have you talked about this? before? No, I haven't. I haven't really. So we have an exclusive. Man, it went really well. And I'm like every day I wake up wanting to post clips from my video on Instagram, but I still want to save these jokes and use them a little bit.

Yeah, that's right. Exactly. Yeah, because I was like, once I put it on my Instagram, I can't use the jokes anymore. Yeah. You did eight minutes. I have a really, really good set. I talk about some things that people wouldn't expect me to talk going to talk about. Where'd you do it? I did it at this, this spot in Santa Monica. Okay. I was so nervous that I drank a bunch of tequila and smoke like two months. I go out there and my dude, Joseph Vesey, he introduces me. And I come out to roaring applause. People are really excited to see me. Nice.

So that kind of made me feel good It wasn't like a kind of like Okay, how about the fuck is this guy? You know what I'm saying? That's the other comedians in the back of the room. Great. Yeah, this fucking guy. Watching bomb this.

But it was so dope. I came out and there was one moment. A lot of the comedians had, you know, they had paper and they were going through new jokes, trying new material. But my thing was like, no, I'm going to go out there and I'm going to do it without looking at my fucking text, right?

So I went out and I had my text next to me just in case, right? And I start and I'm just, before the real jokes, I'm just doing like an introduction, right? Because I have to talk about how like, hey guys, I know I'm not a comedian. This is my first time. And I have a brain fart right in the middle of it. In the beginning. In the very beginning, right? And like within the first two minutes or so, right?

And then I go, let me see. And I go to my phone. And then the crowd started laughing their ass off because they were thinking that it was a part of the bit, right? So once I saw that they were like, I was like, man, I ain't even like doing anything yet. And they're already laughing. So I knew I had them, right?

So I went back. Once I saw it once, I was like, all right, I got, because I was just nervous, right? And I was this little scramble because the intro I did last. I wrote the full set. And then I was like, no, I don't want to just go into jokes. I want to have an intro. So I didn't have as long to prepare for that intro as the rest, right? So after I got past the intro

Smooth sailing Yeah Like Did you have to Like at the text again or no Never Good Never

Yeah Just like Like I'll send you the video After we leave you I'll see you the video And you have to watch it And let me know what you think Yeah

But I plan on Me and Dave Shepil I've been talking He wants me to come out to his spot And do it I know I just have to find time Because it's time consuming

You gotta because before every set, I need about at least a week to prepare. I need at least, I don't know how long it usually takes, but I need at least a week. Even if it's material that I'm familiar with or whatever, I just need to make sure that I'm fucking sharp. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, it takes a minute. Like, I do it.

I've done it for a while now, so I'm not. Like, I used to have a lot of anxiety about it. I could never drink or smoke before doing stand-up. Really? Can't do it because I just for me and this is for me I feel like I Am not given the audience the full Tim Meadows For lack of a better But you have you bombed? Have you had a bad?

No, I just did that one show and it was great Oh you got a bomb I got a bomb But how do I force myself to bomb? Go somewhere away I'll tell you where to go Yeah The Apollo no go somewhere where they don't know you don't know that you don't know that you're going to do

yeah um go to yeah like because it's well you know listen it's only going to make you better if it's something you want to do yeah it's only going to make you better yeah but it's it's going to happen the more you do it like it's just is inevitable nobody got news for you you guys a news flash yeah like everybody bombs at least once, you know, or like you have a bad show or you don't. I've had shows where like, not, not anymore. Because I'm going to say, man, you ain't bombing nowhere. I'm not bombing like I used to.

I have bombed, though. I've had, yeah, but I've had, there's a show in Alabama at a casino in my memory that is as clear as this moment right now. Like, I remember every joke dying and the crowd looking at me angry, wanting to leave and the big heavy manager who hated me for not selling the crowd out was sitting in the back of the room with his hands on his belly

just like disgusted and I just bombed hard it was hard I was like I'm never going to let this happen again and I ended up like I had to do two shows too and that was the first

the second show was just as bad as the first one with less people. And there was just so happened to be a college table of college students who knew me from SNL and all of the movies and stuff who were laughing at the stuff that I was doing. Yeah. And then I said, I did about 35 minutes. And I said, I got to do 45 minutes in order to get paid. And I told the rest of the audience, you guys can leave if you want.

I'm going to do the rest of the show sitting at this table with these kids. just talking and having to drink. And so I sat at the table with the microphone and just was like, so what's your name? Where are you guys from? And they were just like, hey, man, we love you, blah, blah, blah. And I was just like interviewing them. Can I get a beer? Like I ordered a drink.

They brought us to drink and we just talked. Like, so were you from, your family, blah, blah, blah. 55 minutes. Okay, I'm done. Good night. Thank you, everybody. And just put the mic down, stayed with the table and just drank. Love it.

Love it. It was turned from the worst show ever to, to, like, you know, I'm getting out of here with my dignity. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's so dope, man. That's one thing, like, you know, it can happen in music, too. Yeah, bombing? Like, just, like, at a show, like, going to a concert and the crowd is just, like, not engaged.

Like, this, it hasn't happened in a while, but, like, I, earlier in my career, I did some shows where people were just kind of, like, looking at me, like, I was crazy. Yeah. And then also corporate shows. When you have to do a corporate gig for some, some corporation, some bullshit, some brand that just gave you like a big bag to come through and do like three songs. And everybody's in their fucking suits and they're just looking at you like, you know what I mean?

Like they don't want to dance. They're still talking. You still hear that thing. People having conversations. Like it's still like guaranteed discussants happening. No one's paying attention. Like those situations have been the worst for sure. I hate that so much.

And then every time I do it, like I'm backstage and I just go, okay, I'm never, ever doing this again. Yeah. I'm done doing it. Ring, ring, ring. I feel the same. You know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, much money. Okay, yeah, I'll do it.

The next one is the last one I'm doing. I'll do it. But this is the last one. I mean it. I did one. It was for like, it was a communications company. or something and it was in like Florida and the moment I walked out

and saw the room I was like oh this is this is death because it was just chairs were all level like so nobody behind like maybe row 10 could even see you unless they like you know what I mean it was nothing it wasn't this

it was this and the stage was like lower than the chairs it was and it just the chairs went on forever And I was just like, this is, I'm gonna, this is it for me, you know, like, and it was. And even though I tried to like, you know, go, like, you try to make fun in the situation and stuff. Those people are just like, I want to get out of here. I don't want to sit and listen to this due talk.

So yeah, it's the worst. Oh, man. That's got to be the scariest shit. Yeah. I hope that never happens to me anytime soon. Yeah, I'm praying for you. I'm going to text you immediately, like, it happened. One time I called

I had a bad show and I called Chris Rock on stage on the phone and put him on speakerphone and just started talking like I don't know what did this audience they suck man and he was like Timmy

this is what you got to do and he started saying stuff and getting laughs on the phone and I was like great yeah thanks and he warmed him up or whatever and then I was like okay I'll see you in New York yeah call me when you come to town

blah blah And then I go back into my act and they were like on my side again. Yeah. You know what it was like? He validated that I was like a funny person. Because I think our conversation to each other was kind of funny, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was also like the audience was going, I can't believe this is happening right now.

That's so dope. Yeah. That's so dope. It's always good. You get that that one number that you can call in a pinch. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly, exactly.

But I could have called anybody. I don't know. I'm funny on the phone for some reason. I could have called my son. sister. Like, you know what I mean? So you won't be upset when I pulled this on you during my stand-up. If shit is going to bad, I'm like, you know what? I'm calling Tim Meadows. Yeah. Yay, yay. You're one of the best scene stealers of all time, okay? Like, that's a fact. Everybody knows this. Okay. Let's discuss, like, what was improv and what was scripted. I imagine when you're hired for these roles, people

know that you can play and you have that ability to play and build on a character, you know. Right. Dewey Cox, walk hard, mean girls. Let's talk about walk hard specifically because that's actually going to be the next movie that I sample. Oh, really? I'm sampling your bit about like, this is marijuana. You don't want no part of this shit.

Like, I'm going to have that whole bit before a song, right? That'll be. So get ready to clear that. Sure. You know what I mean? Be my guess. But wouldn't that be amazing? that line being immortalized

on the Kid-Cuddy album? That would be great, yeah. That would be epic. Are you kidding? So like, did you have a lot of time to just like play and riff on those movies? Yeah, some of them, like, it depends. Like the things from like Walk Hard that was improvised,

it was written into the scene, into the script that like the every drug escalation, that scene. was written as it is. The marijuana one it was written, but then John C. Riley and I improvised it with the cameras rolling. And because we kept going like,

no, it's the joke of it. We weren't hitting the joke the way it should have been hit, which was, I don't want it to do this crazy thing to me. Don't worry, it doesn't do that. And not only doesn't do that, it makes that better.

So he's like, you know, we had, and so that's what he did. He just improvised. He was like, but it won't, you know, I don't want to OD from it. And I was like, no, you don't OD from it. That's the great thing about it. But you can't do this. I'm telling you, but don't worry about ODN because it'll never happen. But I don't want you to touch it.

You know what I mean? And so the logic, we had to figure out the logic of it. And so John got it when we just started doing it just like that. So everything you see is us improvising and they just put the cameras on us and we just did it. But I can't take credit for the actual like structure of the joke. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And those guys who wrote it. But yeah. Yeah. Walk hard is my shit, man. My, the thing that, thank you. I feel like my life was like Dewey Cots at some point. I think those guys really did a great job of.

making a parody of a biopic movie. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like up until that point, like, they were, they started to have the same feel to it. Yeah. You know what I mean?

And now when you make it, when you go see a biopic, it's sort of like, oh, this is sort of corny because now the drug scene. Now is the scene where they go broke. Now is a scene where they come out of the closet. You know what I mean?

So you just, oh, this is just like, walk hard. Yeah. This is the Dewey Cox story, El John. But here's the thing that I will say about Dewey Cox. Two things. This is so funny because you're like, here's the thing I would say about Dewey Cox.

This is so like it's a real person. Yes. But the two things I'll say about that movie. One, it is the most proud I've ever been of my work as, doing something that I don't do in my normal life. I'm not a drummer. But when I watch, I worked really hard to look like a drummer in that movie. It looks legit.

And that's what people tell me. And that is the most proud I've ever been. It was when we were doing press for that and people would go, so you all played music, the instruments. And we were like, no, I don't know. I just acted really. And they gave me an electronic drum kit to practice on and stuff at home. And we just had to learn those songs and everything. The thing that was most proud of is watching the drum.

Like, I would watch that movie. Even now when I see it on TV, I'll go, shit, look at me go, man. Fucking the punk rock version of Rock Hard. The camera's going behind me, and I'm just fucking going at it, like, on. There's just one shot, because I know that movie, like, the back of my hand, right? There's this one shot where it's like, you're like, boom, and it's like, it's quick, but it's like, you're doing a roll and I'm like, oh, look at Beddows. Look at that off. Oh, fuck.

It was legit, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. That was one thing I'll say about that movie. And the other thing is that the, you never once paid for drugs was also my, I improvised that.

Because I was supposed to, it was like we were supposed to have three different things that we were upset at him about. Yeah. And when the first time when it went by and the camera goes and I go, you never once paid for drugs. And then they went to Parnell. And then the camera came back and they were going to go again and we would do our next lines. And I knew if I said again that he never paid for drugs, that those guys would laugh. Jake Casten and the writers. And so I did it to make them laugh.

And then the third time, I was just, and then the second time I was a little bit angrier. And then the third time I was really pissed. You never once paid for drugs. And so... Not once. Not once. Those things are like I'm the most proud of that movie. Man, I get it.

It was just a blast to shoot. It looks like y'all had the best time. Yeah, it was fun. Man, that's crazy. That's crazy. Well, this is the tale in an episode. It's called Big Rex. Uh-oh.

I'll be asking you some rapid-fire questions, you know? Okay. And you can just answer. Okay. Okay. What's one thing you nerd out about that might surprise people? Comic books. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. what's your favorite comic saga saga and i was reading that i went to comic bookstore like maybe 10 years ago and i was just like what's give me something recommendation

this guy gave me the first six copies of it and then i was just like oh i'm hooked yeah so i would go back and get that black hammer is another comic series that i was like really into that i really loved i just like couldn't wait for another

you know, want to come out. And so now I'm not really in the comic books as much as I used to be. Man, you have to give me a list. Yeah. Some stuff to read. Yeah. Because I'm always looking for some new cool shit. Yeah.

I, that's what I, yeah. I would go into the store and ask like, what's good, what's good. Yeah. But now I feel like if I read more, because I have some that I have on my bookcase in Detroit that I'm like, I should read, you know, like this Batman series that I bought that I've never read. Yeah. Every time I sit down to read, I feel like, I should be doing something else. It's wrong.

I should be trying to cure cancer or something. This is fucking ridiculous. I'm reading Batman. You know what I mean? But yeah, I think, yeah, I don't know. That's one of my nerd things. Nice. Your all-time favorite scene partner.

I guess for the most part, it's probably Farley, like, from in Chicago. We did. Yeah. We were good friends. And so, like, we would improvise. scenes together that ended up getting into the show yeah because we had a good rapport with each other yeah and we could throw ideas at each other because we were the two young nude guys in the cast yeah and nobody else would do it and we go okay well me and you will do it you know what I mean yeah um

so I think like yeah it's scene partner I would say Farley um and I do this improv show um I tour with these guys called it's called Bluebird Improv Matt Walsh, Joe Canali, and Brad Morris. We do these long-form improv shows that are just killer. And it's so good. And they're so fun to work with. But like Brad and Joe and I probably did more improv with them than I've done with anybody. Yeah.

So I would say them. And also Matt Besser, this guy from UCB, one of the founders of UCB. I'm just going to say Matt Besser. Actually, Matt Besser, he has a podcast called Improv for Humans, where we do long form improv. And he and I can improv for hours. That's so dope, man. He's the best, and I love him. I love improvising with him, so I'm going to say Matt Besser.

Okay. So I have the Matt Besser. Yeah. What's one comedy movie everybody to see at least once? Young Frankenstein. Young Frankenstein. Yep. Oh, tell me one of your favorite experiences working with Adam Seller.

One of my favorite experiences working with Adam Sandler was a sketch that we did at S&L called Captain Jim and Pedro, and we did it twice. But I was at home watching a Spanish television movie, black and white. And it was a captain on his ship. And he was,

I can understand what was going on. And then all of a sudden, the character came up behind him, and he had on like an old, like, like Mexican hat that was straw. And he was like talking to him and he was going like what you know, Captain, what is going on? And I was just like, where did this guy come from?

He's on a ship. And he looks like he could be selling tequila at a roadside stop. And so I told Jim Downey and Sandler and Jim Hurley about it. And we were all just laughing. And then Jim Downey and Tim Hurley, he wrote this sketch based on our conversation called Captain Jim and Pedro. And it was me and Sandler. I was Captain Jim. He was Pedro.

And we had been shipwrecked for months on an island. And we finally came back to civilization and we were applying for a job at Foot Locker. Oh, wait. I got to see. I got to see. This has to be on YouTube. Oh, my God. I'm sorry.

I'm crying so hard laughing. This has to be on YouTube. Me and Samler love... This is not one of those sketches that you will watch it and you go, oh, my God, people are dying laughing. But, like, writers on Monday and Tuesday that we knew around the... Yeah. Would call us and go, that was the funniest fucking sketch.

And it's just one of those sketches. And it was, yeah, it was Kelsey Grammar. He was the host. And we were reading it at Readthrough, and he couldn't keep a street. He was crying, laughing as we were reading it. And it's just, you know, like, you know, now it might be considered like inappropriate or whatever, but I was a very straight. I'm the captain of the ship. Pedro and I were lost at sea for probably six months.

And we were on this island for six years. But we think that we can run this foot locker. That was the sort of the idea of the joke of the sketch We were doing a job interview. What's the funniest thing you've seen recently? Funniest thing I've seen recently that made me laugh hysterically hard was weapons.

That movie? Weapons? Why did you laugh so hard about this? At the end of the movie, when the kids are chasing her through the yards and people are just going, what? And the kids come, you know, and the fact that the director made that, like, a good fucking two-minute scene until they destroy, you know, I don't want to ruin it for you haven't seen it.

But I, in the theater, my wife had to, like, hold me, she was like, shh, because I was dying laughing. It was the funniest thing I'd seen in years. I loved it. And I'm not like a big horror movie fan. Like, I watch, you know, like, I like to see good stuff. or whatever. People are talking about something. Yeah, yeah.

That made me laugh really hard, and I have to say that the movie about the date that goes bad, obsession. Obsession. Yeah. When she starts screaming, I can be that girl. I am her. I am her. I can be her.

Like, that made me laugh really hard. I forgot exactly what the point. But it was like she was psychotic about being herself. I can be the girl that you want me to be. And then when he goes, he was like, slowly. trying to get out of the bed. And she was like, don't go anywhere.

We, me and my wife, both busted out laughing. Like, that's funny. It is a comedy, damn there. But Curry Barker, the director and the writer, his roots come from comedy. He's doing all sorts of videos

and stuff on YouTube. Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. So he incorporated a lot of the comedy in the story. Yeah. To me, I think some of the best horror movies that, have a great combination of both things.

Favorite Detroit restaurant of all time? It's this place I love called Mabel Gray. What type of food? It's just this chef is just an amazing. It's sort of American sort of, you know, but it's also sort of like southern cuisine too. Right. But it's just the guy that the chef is just amazing, really good. How do you unplug?

Yeah. unplug by I do yoga seriously a lot every day I meditate um I watching TV watching sports is how I sort of get away from stuff yeah like in Detroit I love it I go to Pistons season tickets yeah yeah so we go to a lot of games there and do that nice um yeah listen to music chill that's what's up yeah what's your moonshot your biggest goal or dream? Biggest goal. You've done a lot, man.

There's got to be something you haven't done that you still want to accomplish. I don't know, man. Because I'm at the point now where I'm like, my big shot goal is like a tiny house in like Maui. Like. But that's that's a dream of mine too. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Because I feel like artistically like I feel like would stand up or would doing movies or TV show just working. like I feel like I'm getting that out like that part of me you know yeah so I don't have any like there's no part of me creatively that feels like oh I don't you know I'm not doing what I should be doing or whatever you know I think at this point in your life is kind of like the little things are what you're looking forward to yeah I really do like working with like young actors and directors and stuff and meeting new people I just did a movie not so long ago called chaperones

and the kid in it is the new Black Panther. Ah, yes. And David Johnson. Yes. Yeah, and it's phenomenal. When I was doing the movie, I told my wife, this kid, this dude is good. Like, yeah, like doing my scenes with, I played his father in this movie, Chaperones. And our scenes together is like, oh, yeah, I'm not, this dude is good.

He's legit. He's legit. Yeah. I got to step up. Yeah. And our scenes together. Like, I got to know what I'm doing. And I was.

I was like, I got to know why I'm walking out of the room. Like, I would make notes in my mind in my script. Like, I'm leaving the room after the scene with him to get a glass of water or something, you know? Yeah. Like, I'm just not going to, like, play the scene and I have an intent when it's over. You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm looking forward to people seeing this movie.

It's comedy. They haven't announced that yet. It's out there. They haven't announced. No trailer or anything, right? I don't think so. I would have saw that. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the director is really great. I was really happy to do this one. Oh, man. I'm excited to see that. Yeah. Dude, thanks for coming. Yeah, we're done.

Yeah, we're done. Hell yeah, man. I love it. Easy peasy. That was fun. Thank you for happy me. Thanks for coming, dude. Yeah, yeah, okay.

Hey, thanks for coming through the attic, y'all. Make sure you subscribe on YouTube or wherever you get your podcast and follow the show on social media at big brocutty. Until next time, Love yourself. Take care of each other. Dream on. Peace.