Big Bro with Kid Cudi - Wiz Khalifa: Crafting Megahits, Rap Friendships & His Dream Blunt Rotation

Episode Date: April 20, 2026

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Wisdomis Prime. What up y'all? This is Big Bro with Kid Cuddy, a wave original presented by Jimmy Johns. I'm your big bro, Scott, coming to you live from the addict of my mind, baby. This week, we have my homeboy, Wiz Frikan Khalifa. Legendary weed smoker, legendary artist. This conversation is one of my favorites. Talked about behind the scenes on some of his biggest hits.

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Where my joint? We got my guy, whiz. How are you feeling, bro? I'm chilling, bro. Thanks for having me over. Yeah, thanks for coming to the attic, man. Yeah, no, it's cool over here. Yeah, it's a nice, cozy spot.

I like the big bro vibes. Yeah. Very on brand. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yep. So, you know, this is the stoner edition. This is the 420 episode. Yeah.

You know what I mean? I had to have you on. Hell yeah. I mean, we are the new generation stoners. Yeah. You know? Connoisseurs of this thing. And we're probably like two of the most wholesome people in hip-hop.

For sure. It's true. We're unproblematic. Damn. As a motherfucker. I mean, we're real niggas, but we're still unproblematic. Nobody hates us. No.

We have haters, I'm sure. but they don't matter. No, no, no, no, no. They hate us, I mean, those types of haters is, like, because of, like, our glow. Exactly, of our aura. Yeah, there's nobody who, like, really, like, wants anything bad to happen to us.

They hate us because they hate us. You know what I mean? That's what they do, bro. I don't know how many people have checked it out. I'm pretty sure a lot of people have heard about it, but me and me and Wiz did a stream. Called Someone Cook Tears, my series that I do on Twitch. We just cooked, and it's funny because that was literally,

like the first time we were in the studio together like working on something. Yep. Let's tell me a little bit about how that came about. Yeah. Yeah. Because you've been, you've been streaming for a minute. I just saw you celebrated your 100th episode. Yeah, I started streaming a little while ago. I mean, you know, just to get the numbers under my belt

and actually learn how to do it. But I really kind of dove into a similar to how you did where you were just trying to find your way and like what would work for you. And I think just naturally stream and develop over time as to something that the format kind of changed and the entry to it kind of changed and all of that shit. So I found my way that made it work for me

and I just started just really like learning, like nerding out on the technology part of it. Like just really learning the, you know, the ends and outs of like how to run OBS and like set up the cameras and all of that shit. So I was like my own guinea pig, you know what I mean? And in turn, of course the people that I fuck with, I'm going to support. Like, you know what I mean? So if I see anybody on there who I genuinely fuck with in real life, I think Twitch is a great

opportunity to show that and add to the community as well. Yeah, it's definitely like, you know, I love when I was able to come on your your stream and gift you subs and see the reaction of the chat. Like everybody was so excited. Yeah. It's real gratifying. You gifted me some subs too and people were like really fucking pumped.

Hell yeah. I know I was pumped. It feels good to like just hit that button and then you know show some love. Yeah. It's super dope. So I've seen that you have started streaming and just naturally as a fan and somebody who

would want to see, you behind the scenes of what you got going on. I'm just checking it out like everybody else is too. But then, you know, because we are who we are and we have our platforms, if I say something in the chat or if I, you know, like you said, give subs, it becomes a moment. It becomes a thing. Yeah.

So like that genuine interaction turned into us being in the studio for the first time on your stream. Yeah. Which is really, really fun, super professionally ran. The vibes are crazy. Chef D. Was there cooking it up. Chef D. Saucy D was in the house.

Yeah, yeah. So it's like, yeah, man. It's like those real situations where I wouldn't be able to do that in real life. Twitch gave me an opportunity to, you know, kind of break the ice and break walls down and just have a direct, you know, connection with you and made something happen that the fans have been one. see we've been wanting to make happen. And it was like we even sent songs back and forth to each other, but after we recorded on, you know, live and together in the studios, like, man,

we should have been got together. Yeah, yeah. But it happened because of Twitch, you know? Yeah. And that shit is dope. Like, I fuck with that heavy. Hell yeah. I mean, it's kind of interesting because like a lot of people

don't, they're like very protective and private of what goes on in the studio. Yeah. You know, and I feel like I was that way for years. I never had. Like, it actually bums me out, but I don't have much footage of me in the studio back in the day. You know what I mean?

And, like, now I'm trying to record everything, you know, because who knows what that session would end up being. Yep. You know? Absolutely. So it's nice to now, at any given moment, I can go back and just, like, watch a full set, like, watch me cook. Yeah.

I don't think I've ever watched myself cook before. Like seeing how my mind works like in overdrive, like quickly. Yep. How I can make choices and do things quickly. Like that was, I was impressing myself. Yeah. Like watching it. That's good.

So I was like, I know like for fans, this has got to be the illest thing because, you know, we're two people that people respect, you know, like people honor us and to lift the veil on that and just kind of bring them in on the vibes. and especially it being our first time and like seeing it for the four hours we were streaming. I mean, we were non-stop in there chilling, you know what I mean? Seeing a camaraderie. It's not like, I think what people saw

with that stream was like, oh man, like, Cuddy and Whiz like really fuck with each other. Like this is not like just like an industry link up. Like these dudes are cool. They've been cool for years and they just now happen to be making music. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

Yep. So. And like you said, like the artistry. Yeah. The professionalism. A lot of these cats are in their house, like, doing this shit. They don't really got no example of, like, what to look at and how to do it. Yeah.

So we're showing them. You know what I'm saying? You're showing them like, all right, cool. When it comes this point in the session, you make this decision. You pivot here. Yeah. You go, you do this. Like, you're showing them.

how to, you know, build and stack and be confident and, you know, work through those things where it's like we might have, I don't know, I can tell kind of how you are. I'm the same way. It's like we study the grades and we like really study the grades to where we listen to music and we figure out why it makes us feel a certain way. And then we repeat that but in our own way. Yeah. And that's a special skill too. For sure. To be able to be inspired, but like not be a duplication, but take inspiration and concoct something to make your own. Yeah, it's a feeling.

So the feeling's not going anywhere. Yeah, exactly. Like, you know, if you're going to want to cry or whatever it is or, you know, you just know how to make people feel like that. Didn't you say you shed tears? Yeah, yeah, bro. Like a motherfucker, you know. Your part, too. It wasn't even my part.

It was your singing part. I was like, damn. Well, that's a, I think that it's, it's a beautiful thing because we discover something. Yeah, like we have a certain Genesequois. Yeah, yep. You know, we, we have something special. And everything, I truly believe in everything happens when it's supposed to happen. For sure.

You know what I mean? For sure. It's like, now we're both masters at our craft. Like me, I'm more of a producer than I was back then. Like if we were linked up in like 2010, 2011 or 12, like it would have been the same vibes. I would have been like, yo man, I got to get beats from someone or whatever. But now I'm just like at this place where I'm so inspired and I want to just cook that like I can just have you come to the studio and be like, let's make something from scratch. And like I get my guitarist.

I got my engineer in. I got Aaron on the guitar. It's me. I got all my sense. I got my computer. I got my laptop. I got everything I need, my MP, and we just make something that wasn't,

that didn't exist before, you know what I mean? That gave me a whole new insight, because I'm still getting beats, but I was like, isn't that the most stressful thing though? It is. It's the most stressful part. Yeah, it's the most stressful part about being an artist is when niggis is like,

you almost see you a pack. And it would be like 50 beats. And then you only like maybe find like one. That's all right. And it's just all right. Right. And you have to do that like maybe 10 more times with 10 different producers. And it's just like, man.

And then also too, like when you fuck with so many different producers, it's kind of hard for you to like create a sound depending on the type of producer you get it. Like if you're working with producers that can actually help you kind of create something unique, then that's okay. Right. You know? But usually it's like if you're reaching out to the same. the same guys that are wanted by everybody in the industry, you're not getting something that is your own unique sound.

You're just doing their sound. Exactly. You know what I mean? And then you end up sounding like everybody else. Yep. You know? That's what I realized. Like I had been doing it like that for so long.

So I was programmed to just be like, you know, send me packs. And I run through packs. Like I'm like, all right, cool. That's like a skill of mine. You know, you send me like seven of them bitches. I'm knocking them bitches out because it's like. you never know what you can get. Or like you said, if you send 50,

I'm listening to all 50, but I might pick three because I'm really, you know, being detailed about what I want to do. Yeah. But instead of doing that, you show me, you can work on one or two. But we did too, but even if we would have just done one, it would have been like, it would have still been meaningful. Yeah.

Because we captured everything that we were doing right then and then. Yeah. We captured everything. The magic that was happening. Yeah. And you don't get that when you get a Paxon. Nah. And it might be a really good beat, but that magic is not there.

Yeah. And that's what I feel better with now and more appreciate and just moving forward. It's like, yeah, I would much rather, like, that be the story that's being told rather than, like, you know, just Pax. You know what I'm saying? There's nothing wrong with Pax. I don't want to, you know, say. We're not sitting on producers. Yeah, not at all.

Don't think that Wins and Cuddy are shitting our producers. But what you're saying is that you've grown into, you've grown the confidence to say that you are a producer yourself. Exactly. A lot of the times we'll just tell people what we like. You're like, hey, you know, put this here. And hope for the best. Yeah, or we already arranged the song and shit like that.

So it's just taking a little bit more control and saying that you're doing what you depend on other people to do, which they shouldn't be pissed off at. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I can't just be accepting. beats from fools forever. But you know what I will do? Yeah.

I will. If somebody has beats for me, I'll say, you know what? I'll get in the studio with you and cook up with you. Yeah, cook with you. Like, let's make a beat together type of shit. Yeah. That's exciting for me. That seems like fun.

Like, you know who I want to get in the studio? Like, I was in the studio last year with Hit Boy. And we was just making beats. Yep. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I got a couple beats from him. I just bangers.

Yeah. I did a song on one of them. it's dope. It's like, I got two of my boys from my heyday. I ain't even gonna say who, but you go hear,

you're gonna hear this record soon. But that was exciting for me because I, the only producer I'm ever really in the studio with is Dr. Genius. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it was dope to like,

kind of like get out there and try something different. Yeah, that seems like more fun. It's like, uh, like a new age, like jam session type shit. Yeah, it's super, it's super dope, man. And the possibilities are endless.

Yeah. You know, and then Hip Boy has this style, and I have my style. We were for hours just chopping samples. Yep. Just sitting there just chopping up samples. Yep. Like, I'm like, ooh, it'd be dope if you just chopped up the beginning and use this piece and put it there.

And he thought, oh, I'll bet, what if I do this? And we're going back and forth trying different things. Yeah. Like, and, you know, shout out the hip, Boy because Hit Boy's been a real supporter of mine and a real homie for years. And watching him thrive, watching him succeed in doing all these amazing projects with all these amazing artists. It's just beautiful, man.

It is. He's a good dude. Yeah. Like, I feel like we got to get something from Hip Boy. We got to, like, really like for the EPE that we're going to do. Fucking right. Weed and deuce coma. I want to get into a little bit of your process when you're making songs.

We know the weed has to be present. Yeah. You know what I mean? Are you one of those people that has like 20 heads in the studio? It's usually you and the engineer. It's usually just me and my engineer. His name is Aaron. Yeah, shout out to Aaron.

Shout out to Aaron, y'all. I did have like a rock star era. Definitely I did too. Oh, man. We all did. Because you want to bring your homies. You want your homies to see this shit. My homies, some strippers, some dogs, some tattoo artists.

Nice, nice. Bro, I had some crazy sessions. But it kind of like trained me to be able to record in the chaos. Yeah. It's like, you know, now I know how to be real peaceful in the chaos. I can record around anything. Same. And, you know, it conditioned me for that.

But I definitely figured out that I'm way better with just. It's me and my engineer. Yeah. Yeah, some ideas and, you know, just some, yeah, yeah, just a clear space to get all of that shit done. Yeah, man. I feel you, man. I feel, I had that similar experience when I was running with the good music crew

early on in my career, like, the studio sessions would be, like, filled with niggas, and I would just come in, and my anxiety would be through the roof, and I would just do my part and get the fuck out of the dots, but I could, like, focus on. I remember one song, I went to a song. studio. It was like 50 people in there. It was crazy. And I did Christian Dior Dillonthole. And I remember really just focusing up because I was like, look, I have the last verse. I want to make sure that this is like really amazing. But it had all these other dope artists on it. I at first was a little taken by like all the energy in the room. But as soon as I got into it,

I was just like focus on it and like finish the verse in like 15, 20 minutes. And then that's how it kind of was. And so I feel you about having to be, like, used to the chaos because every session from that point on in the good music world, whenever I was running with them, like, there was always heads in the studio. Like, always heads in the background. We have to tell niggas to stop talking, like, full-on conversations going on behind me, you know what I mean?

Yeah, no, for sure. It's like that shit, especially how the industry was during that time, it was like a fucking performance being in the studio. Like, you had to pull up. your car had to be right, your fit had to be right. Yeah, yeah. When you got in the booth,

you had to kill that shit. Yeah, man. Because not only like this niggas already, like, just looking at you, but somebody to hype you up before you got in there, so they got expectations. Mm-hmm.

And then it's like six girls over there who you don't know at all. And it's like, all right, cool. So I got these niggas that I got to impress, and then I got these chicks that I don't know, and I got my big homie right here, whoever he may be who I really fuck with

who I got to impress. And it's like a goddamn show. But it's like you rise to the occasion and it's like that's kind of like what built our character because we had to go through a lot more of that and then, you know, pull it back to where we're at.

It's not in reverse. It's not us being by ourselves and then getting thrown into that. So it's definitely more of a skill than anything. But it's not. necessary. Don't you find that the way we do it now is a much more peaceful thing. It's way more peaceful. It's so peaceful. I love to just and you probably have the same relationship that I have with my engineer in. I've been working with him since 2012 and you know it's like he's the one I'm like

asking like what you think of this verse. Yeah. You know what I mean? You think about putting this here and changing this there. You fuck with that. And like I just, I just, love that. I just love, it's just me and my engineer. We're just cooking something cool. Yeah. You know what I mean? I'm making beats and he's tracking it and, you know, the beautiful thing that I have with my engineer is, is now we're scoring like movies. You know what I mean? And like, that's been a lot of fun because he kind of helped me load up my laptop with sounds and all these different things that I could use for scoring. And it just enhanced. my whole shit.

It's almost like the camaraderie or how we build things, like I wouldn't be able to happen if I had a room full of people. Right. I mean? It's really, it's, the type of music I'm making now is more peaceful.

Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? It's more like introspective reflection, you know? Yeah, yep. Um, and it's nice to just kind of be in a room.

in a quiet dimlet room you know what I'm saying with my weed and like yep just vibes that's why I felt cool about you invite me to your space because I know how important my space is to me I don't just invite a lot of people over it's how I'm real hesitant to do that like just because like you said I like my peace and I like where my brain is that and I know like how I get when other people are around so it's like I might as well just chill

like I'll keep it keep it like this yeah I'm fucking with that too for sure man let's talk about the beginning yeah we came up at the same time yeah do you remember we performed at that club together it was some some club and we didn't talk

um but this must have been like my first of like club appearances ever. I mean, it was a club that just happened to have a stage. Yep. And you were smoking, you had a lot of people around you, and I had my booth, and I had like just a few friends. But like, I think early on in my career,

I was really shy. I think a lot of people took my energy early on for the first half of my career is somebody who just didn't want to be bothered with people. But it was really my shyness. I was, like, insecure to, like, put myself out there not knowing what I'm going to get on the receiving it. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

And so I feel like that was for a while. Why, I didn't link up with a lot of different people for a long, long time. Yeah. You know, that's why it was important for, I remember when we did that, I did that performance. And you was like, yo, man, why we ain't ever worked together? We ain't enemies. You ain't fucking no bitches that I know. We have no beef.

Like, nothing. Why have we even fucking work together? I was like, man, I don't fucking know, man. But in my head I did know. It was like, man, I was a fucking, like, shy dude. I mean, I had all the, you know, you see me on the stage. You see me doing these videos and you see me doing all the things, the miscaradure period of my life.

And it looks like I have the most confidence. And I did when it came to my art. But when it came to, like, socialize. you know, I was very reserved. Yeah. You know? For us, I was always a fan of everybody. Yeah.

Like, I'm the biggest dude who's not no hater ever. I never hated on nobody. I never would. I always find the good shit to say about motherfuckers. Yeah. And I think just because, like, my attitude comes off so cocky that people think, like, I don't need, like, camaraderie or need friendship. Yeah.

You know what I mean? They're talking something. He's good, bro. He's got it fucking made. But I take that too, and I'm like, I go make friends. Like my friendship with currency, I hit him up on the internet and was like, dude, I like your music. I think we should link.

And he was like, okay, cool. And he was thinking, because I was signing the Warner Brothers at that time, he was thinking that, you know, I was like a huge artist and that I would want to stay at a hotel and shit. I'm like, bro, I'm going to sleep at the crib and we're going to buy weed. Use the money that you were going to get for the hotel. for weed and that's how we became friends is just me going down there on my own and chilling yeah but i was always just not a hater always a huge fan and just wanted to build like

worlds with people i've seen this shit as like we're always better as like you know teammates as than we are like against each other so niggas who i know had motion i was like i need to link with these things like you know what i mean It was never like, I need to do better than them. I need to shit on them. I need to get to their level. It was like, no, I need to link with these niggas. Like, they're doing it big.

That's how I want to do it. Or that's how I'm doing it. So we need to do it like that together. And you was always somebody who I looked at that like that, like big bro. You know what I mean? That's why I like how you doing this now. I always looked at your videos. I looked at your documentaries.

Just everything. You know what I mean? Just as a fan. And then when we started, I started, you know, get to a certain level where we were, I would consider as peers, it's always just been a respect level. Yeah.

It's never been like, yo, I'm gonna fucking smash this dude. Like, you know what I mean? It's just always been a respect level where it's like, you know, you have recognition for the weed shit and being a stoner and just the whole your message for your fans. And I have the weed shit, but I have a different type of message,

but it's all based around the same type of shit. Yeah. Where it's like your music and your crowd is more, they're thinking more and they really want to be talked to about thought. And my crowd thinks, but they're also crazy as fuck. They just want to party. You know what I mean?

They just want to get loose. And that's all good too. That's all good. And that's where you see me and my section with all them people at because it was like, yo, I was getting it cracking. I was in my early 20s. And it was like, I was treating that shit like college. because I was going to different colleges,

so I was just treating like I was in college, the music and the clothes and, you know, just that whole scene at that time. It was all just real accessible. Like, you can just touch it. You're like, you just wake up and get to it. It almost doesn't feel like it was real. Bro.

It was like a dream, you know? And I'm just not waking up and I'm like, well, I'm 42. Bruh. What that fucking happened when I was like on late teens? It was like our late teens. It was like. It was so crazy, man. Twenty-teen, bro.

I mean, we were young. That shit was awesome. And then when we moved out to L.A., bro, like we were just instantly all, like, buying mansions and Porsches. Like, we skipped the bum phase, bro. Yeah, we skipped it. I mean, that was a beautiful. That was a beautiful thing, us being young, successful,

and just out here living our lives and making just what we thought was cool. We were going crazy, though. We were in all the best sessions. Yeah. We were around all the best. We were to take. Well, we still are, but it's like we were the tastemakers of the time. Yeah.

We said what was cool and what wasn't. Yeah. And that actually really caught on and spawned, you know, other stuff as well. So it worked as well as, you know, we had a great time. And it was like, you know, it was just, that shit was cool as hell, bro. Yeah. Man, shout out Jimmy Johns for coming through with the 420 Monty's. No cess is complete without something savory and sweet.

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Oh man. Like that shit must have been the illest, bro. Because I've had some moments with Snoop and they are like, definitely like top five one of top five favorite moments in my life yeah like being around this guy yeah you know what I mean whether it's him handing me a blunt every five seconds and like yeah steaming in the room we were in the studio with for real one time years ago like just I remember we did uh man this is years ago bro we did uh the remake of we are the world mm-hmm You know what I mean?

From the 80s, right? Yeah, yeah. And they had, it was so many people with there, man. But it was such a random mix. It was just a random mix of celebrity. It was like Vince Vaughn. And you had like Jamie Fox. Yeah.

You had like Snoop. Then you had Little Wayne. And like, it was like the most dysfunctional choir ever. And like in the back, you had Snoop and Lil Wayne. And they were just in the back like giggling, like talking shit, like fucking around. Like the bad kids in class in the back, you know. And it was. It was so crazy because I remember I did Snoop's TV show.

He had this late night talk show called Dog After Dark. And that was like my first time on TV, actually. And like he had wanted me to perform day and night. And he was so cool, got me a bunch of weed. And like really like embrace me. It was like, nah, you, I fuck with you. Yeah. And that for me was like, that was a bigger moment than like Kanye being like,

yo, I fuck with you. Yeah, yeah. When Snoop was honoring me, I was like, man, I don't know, I don't really care who I meet after this. You know what I'm saying? Yep. Because like, it's the perfect example of being like, man, you know how you see a celebrity and you be like, man, this motherfucker look like the coolest motherfucker.

And you meet them and they're exactly what you thought. No, for sure. That's like Snoot. Yep. You know? So tell me what your first experience. Yeah, so I'm just be like, I used to watch like the wash. You never seen the one.

Classic, classic. I used to watch that. And then there was like a couple of movies of them on tour. What about Baby Boy? Baby Boy, for sure. There was like back. Fuck your four, nigga, you ain't my son. Hey, hey, you sound real hard on the phone, nephew.

You called that nigga Nephew, man. But yeah, I used to watch hell of Snoop footage and be like, man, I'm gonna be that nigga's best friend one day, man. And it sounds weird. No, I don't. You know what I don't? I would be at the house. I wouldn't say it to nobody.

And I would watch shit. I'd be like, man, this nigger needs a fucking friend just like me, dog. You probably got a bunch of homies. I'm sure he do. But when I meet Snoop, I'm gonna be that nigger's best friend. And then I had just, I, it was like one of those blurry moments where I was, you know, I was really hot at the time. And I was just traveling, doing a bunch of shit, and I was meeting a lot of celebrities. I had met Juicy Jay for the first time.

Nice. I'm, you know, a huge idol of mine. So it's like, shout out to Juicy Jay. Yeah, he's a supporter. He's always been supporting me. I love Juicy, love his music. And we went, man, on our EP, Mm-hmm.

Oh, we got to. Juice Coma. Yeah, yeah. We got to have to. He would love to, bro. And he made beats. Yeah, fucking right. So I would love to hear some of his beats.

Yeah, bro, he would. So Juicy, you're here now. Done. I'm probably going to hit you after this episode. Done. You already going to know. Done. Perfect.

He would love that. Yeah. And then so I got out to the West Coast. and I finally met Snoop and shit. And it was just exactly what I was thinking in my head. Like, he was like, yo, we need to shoot a movie. We need to get in the studio every day. We need to do this.

You need to get an apartment out here. You need to move around the corner from me. And I did all of that shit, you know. I was like, fuck it. I'm moving to LA. Snoops said come out here. I'm doing it. I'm getting the crib around the corner from his crib.

We're in the studio every day. We're making the movie. And we did all of that shit. And in that process of him put me on and working with me, he really showed me like what somebody at the top of their game is supposed to look like. So he was never like fucked up to me or like to people around him.

He was always nice. He always looked out. He was stern. He had certain rules and shit like that. And he wasn't going to hold your hand. And there was like situations where we would be about to move. like I learn from him he say church on the move so when he say church on the move that means he's out and if you ain't when he says church on the move if you're not right behind him glued to him

you're getting left so it's like shit like that where it's like I learn how to move out here and I learn how to move as a professional and I learn how to move as somebody who's going to be at the top of their game one day and you know he definitely raised me to be to where I am now but I got to look at that early and just see him as a great person, see him as a good business person, see him as a good family person, see him as somebody who puts other people on around him, seeing how he interacts with other artists, other producers, other people who do whatever it is.

Snoop has his hand in so much. And just being close to him and meeting him, it really showed me what a top-tier artist is supposed to be like. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's the perfect mentor, the perfect OG to have. Yeah, absolutely. I couldn't wish for none better, bro.

Great example of a really amazing black man to look up to. For sure. For sure. You know, it's important for, I think, the OGs to connect with the youth and the youth to connect with the OGs. You know what I mean? And that's one of the things that, like, I'm really big into now.

It's like I'm trying to, like, connect with younger artists. Yeah. And just give them game. And that's one of the reasons I guess I started the Twitch screen. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Because I know there's going to be some young producer watching that shit in Wisconsin. Yep.

That's like, for sure. See some codes. For sure. You know. I want to ask you, like, what artists inspired, like, young whiz. Like, what were you listening to? Besides Snoop,

we know Snoop. Besides Snoop, I'm gonna keep it real. Who else? Cam. Cam Ron? Yeah, bro. That's my favorite rapper.

That was my nigga too. Yeah, that's my favorite rapper ever, bro. Camas. But I like the confessons of fire, Cam. Yeah, confessions is tough. SDE is tough. Yeah, that's what,

that's, I remember playing that shit crazy when it first drop. Like, Cam's, to me, he's just his attitude. Like, you know what I mean? He didn't give a fuck.

He didn't give a fuck. And he, for sure. He, like, he let it be known, like, he let his, who he is as a person be a character as well. Like, Cam is crazy. Yeah, but it's, but you know what's even crazier now? Seeing this nigga with his own podcast. Yeah.

And, like, him having, like, intellectual conversations about shit. And him, like, being smart as fuck about certain topics, sports and, like, things like that, you know? Yeah. It's really now, his podcast is really a fucking source of information. Yeah. The people check for. It really is. It's reputable.

Yeah, it's just so cool to see OGs that we grew up listening to branch out into new lanes and have success. It's inspirational to see niggas not be washed, you know. I know. And also he's doing it with his nigger. Like, him and his mates go back. And their connection and their chemistry and the way they laugh together is hell of good to see. You can tell that they came up together. They've been always, you know.

I genuinely just laugh watching. them niggas, like, crack jokes with each other. Because I got family from New York. My family's from Harlem as well. So it's like just seeing how them niggas act, they never, they never grew up for real. Like, they're still the same way. That shit is so cool to see. And, like, you got that from their music, you got that from their swag.

You got that from the people that was around them, too, like the whole dipset movement. Yeah. But just even, you know, people who were affiliated with dipset. who weren't right by Cam, they brought so much energy to the movement too because they loved him so much. They just wanted to show off so much so Cam would see him.

And, like, that was just, like, that's inspirational for me. Like, there's not too many rappers where when I see him, I'm like, yo, that's my nigga, yo. Like, anytime Cam is on screen, I'm like, yo, that's my nigga. Same, but he's a pop culture icon.

Man, for sure. You know what I'm saying? Like, people don't, these kids don't know. They don't get them. They don't know. I mean, I feel like they don't remember the pink Range Rover, the Lappy Tapie Range Rover. Everything that's done now is like recreated.

Yeah, man. So like a nigga got pink on now, pink fur or whatever. It's just because somebody else did it. He was the first one doing that shit, bro. Yeah. The first one for sure. Was your dream always to be a rapper? It was to be a ninja first.

I think that was everybody's dream. I remember I watched Last Dragon, and I thought for sure I was going to learn karate and be doing kung fu in the streets. Yeah, I wanted to be a ninja. That was my first dream. Then I had hoop dreams when A&1 was cracking. Yeah, we was crossing niggas up in the streets.

Like hot sauce and shit. Yeah, exactly. But then probably like 14, that's when I started taking rap series. Okay. How old were you when you started making music series? I think I started freestyle and shit with my friends around 11, 12. Then I've recorded my first. I actually heard my voice recorded when I was 14, 15.

Yeah. Then I was like, whoa, like hearing my voice back was like it fucked me up. Yeah. Because I had started writing in like third grade, but I, and then like I said, like you said, freestyle with the homies. Yeah. 11, 12. But like, yeah, for fun.

Yeah, but no, no recordings until. like 14. Yeah, but you know, at 16, I had the idea to have a career. Yeah. Hot Boys just came out. Little Wayne was 17. Was out here killing it in the group. I really connected to him.

Yep. And I was like, man, this dude is traveling all over the world, like, performing, like, he's my age. Like, I want to do that. Yep. You know, like, I want to do that and get money and take care of my family. Yep. You know? So that's like 16 was when I really

Was trying to like pursue a career Like doing like open mics and like town shows Hell yeah Around Cleveland Nice And yeah Like it was You know because that's why like

But my daughter I always be asking her like So what you want to do Because you had to figure out She's 16 now When I was 16 I knew what time it was Hell yeah I knew where we were going You know

But I know every Every kid you know, has to take, some kids take their time, some people figure it out later. Yeah. And so now with her, it's like she's exploring every avenue, you know, to eventually see where she wants to go. And, you know, she's got two more years of high school. Yeah.

You know, she's got time to figure it out. I was thinking about that, like, what fucking was driving me that whole time? Like, what was my passion? And I think it was just because of like how much I love music. And like what you were saying about how like Lil Wayne was killing it and that inspired you to do it beyond just like recording myself and hearing myself for the first time. Like I played it for my friends and they were like, man, you're good, bro.

Yeah. Like they were like, you could act, you could do this, you know? He's like, dude, you're nice. I'm like, damn. I'm like, for real. And then like for every age I always have like a couple. couple friends who would faithfully buy my CDs off me. Like, it didn't matter who else did.

Like, they would always cop my shit. Yeah. So I'm like, all right, I got customers. I got Custis. You know what I'm saying? They're coming back. You know what I mean? I got a supply.

I'm working with something here. Yeah, yeah. So like, yeah, like you said about like 16 and shit, I'm digesting so much music. And then for me it was like Dipset at the time. So like Jewels was the young they got at the crew for them. So it was like I was on my Jewel Santana shit. You know what I mean?

Like I'm just young. I'm hungry. I'm here. I'm supporting whoever like the big dogs are because I know like it's not really my time. And I'm running around Pittsburgh and it's a scene there but it's not really a scene. Yeah, it's kind of like Cleveland. Yeah. Like not everybody's seeing that shit.

Like we had our own little little DVD series going on and everything. I had a niggas name was Franchise. He was from Redding. PA, but he used to, like, do these franchise DVDs where niggas was battling him, so it was like fake smack type shit. It was going down, you know? That sounds like it was popular. That sounded like it was popular.

Yeah, it was cool. I felt like I heard about them shit. Yeah, we had like a little thing going, like, just because we were all so, like, inspired and so hungry. Yeah. You know, that's what niggas was spending their money on. But I was still in high school, so I would leave school on a work release to go to the studio. Oh, wow.

Yeah. So that's how I knew. that that's what I really wanted to do. Oh, that's dope. I was getting paper signed from, shout out to E Dan. I was getting paper signed from E. Like, the studio was my real job.

Oh, okay. So they would allow me to leave high school in the middle of the day to go to the studio to work. That's where I learned how to write songs and structure shit and put it together where it became not just me freestyling. Like actually making the fucking song.

Yeah, yeah, making the song because they could tell that They were like, this dude is good. Like, he can wrap his ass off. And I was really good in the studio where I could, you know, write a rap and then just say it, like one or two takes. Yeah, but that should have been like 38 bars. Yeah, it would be long as hell. Oh, yeah, fuck it.

And it was over instrumental, too. So it wasn't over that in the original. No one could just speak bars. But they were just looking at me like, well, the grown men, like, they suck when they come in here. They, they, you know, it takes them all day to put that shit together. But this dude, he could actually say his. just rap all the way through. So we want to work with them.

And that's kind of like what gave me my shot, you know, beyond paying for studio time, but just being able to work with people who are better than me based off of my skills and shit. And that's how I built that shit up. Yeah, man. I want to ask you, like, since this is the 420 episode, this is, the 420 episode. Hell yeah. Let's talk about the tree, brother.

Ha, ha. Let me take a bar rip. Yeah. Yeah, maybe we should take a bar. You asked me the question. I'm going to take a bon rip. And then I'll take a bon rip before I ask you a question. Well, ask the question because I don't want you to forget it.

Oh, shit. Okay. You know me so well. Okay. What is the best stoner movie? Have bait, how high, or Harold and Kumar? Okay. Which Harold and Kumar?

Damn. That's right. Because they were both dope. Guantanamo Bay. Let's just say Guantanamo Bay. Yeah, yeah. All right, let me number these. I'm going to put Harold and Kumar as number one.

Really? Yeah. Okay. I'm going to put Half Bake as number two, and I'm put How High is number three. I love How High. Okay. So that just goes to say how much Harold and Kumar is funny as fuck.

But you know, what I would have put number one is Half Bake. I love Half Bake. But I think Harold of Kumar has better scenes, though. Like, like, there's, It's more, if you, like, put the scenes up against each other. Like, but, bro, like, half-Bake has some crazy-ass scenes, too, bro. Have Bakes has better characters. Yeah, definitely.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. To me, I think. Harold and Kumar had M.P.H. N.P.H. It just, like, they're just out of pocket with the scenes, bro. Yeah, it was wild. When they broke out of jail, like, that shit was crazy. When they went seen dude at the, uh, at the mansion, that shit was crazy. when they drove

through the black neighborhood Oh shit You remember that part? Wait, wait, hold on I don't even know if I've seen this one You gotta see the one Is this

This, there's two Harold and Kumar movies Yeah, yeah, yeah I don't think I've seen The second one before The first one was when they was trying to get to the White Castle The second one is Escape from Guantanamo Bay

Oh We gotta watch that, bro Yo, yo, Yo, please, let's Escape from Guantanamo Bay It's out of fucking pocket it, bro. Look, you put me on a movie, I'll put you on the movie. Have you ever seen Tim and Eric's billion dollar movie?

No. Hell no. Yeah, half-baked. This is classic, though. What's your favorite scene on have baked? Oh, shit. Oh, man. I don't, I'll just, I'm gonna start, I'm gonna start firing off scenes. Like, because I don't have, like, an ultimate favorite. Mine is when Samson calls Mr. Nice Guy. What he says.

I want to talk to Samson. Simmson, I'm moving like that bitch out of Spamson. Because it's hard being back to get up. Sometimes you want

to throw it all down and get lifted. That niggas said, did you get my message? I'm Cuban B. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Cuming me. I don't think he was supposed to say that. That was all in bra. Bro, that shit was funny as fuck. Fuck, bro.

Damn. That's what I... Okay. Oh, fuck. I realize that bones are like... Wait, none of the interview's about to change since... Drastically. Yep.

Bones are like... Like taking shots with weed, though. Okay. Yep. I like bombs. Shit. Oh, my God. It just speeds the process up.

It's like... I'm not going to sit here and smoke five joints. I'm going to take a bong rip and... Get there fast. Get to it. Yeah. Yep. Yeah.

What was... your first time like smoking weed my first time smoking weed i actually watched next friday and uh and ate some barbecue pringles in the the purple the purple can i ate them bitches and they tasted like steak bro oh my god yeah it was so good and i actually had like a trippy experience because i had like close my eyes and i was talking to my home voice and then i opened my eyes And I was like, why did y'all let me go to sleep? And they were like, you never went to sleep. And I was like, yes, I did.

And I had a dreamer we was talking about this. And it was like, yeah, we was actually talking about it. I'm like, damn, weed is crazy. And then another time, I had hotbox the bathroom. It was my uncle's birthday. He went to, like, he put a beat on and we all freestyle. And I kicked, like, the craziest freestyle I ever did in my life. And they were, like, about to go do shit.

I'm like, how the fuck are y'all functioning, right now because every time I blink I felt like a fly like I had a thousand eyes like yeah and it was crazy because I'm like how the fuck why does weed make you feel like this every time I blink it was like a thousand eyes

eyes were blinking at the same time so I thought that's how weed was I think that shit wasn't laced no I don't think it was probably some bad weed and we were smoking some backyard boogie yeah exactly we were smoking blunts in a bathroom like we shower on and shit I was probably suffocating.

Yeah, man. Yeah, that's probably, I probably wasn't doing too well. I, first time I smoked was out of a black and mild. Oh, nice. I was 15. Damn. Didn't know what I was doing. You stuffed a black and mild?

Yeah, took the tobacco out and then filled it up a weed. It's a good, good concept. I mean, it worked. Yeah. I had a blunt roll with some glue before. Oh, no. Yeah. I didn't smoke it, but I was supposed to say.

I seen it. Yeah, man. I looked at it. That's fucking great. I don't think everybody has a story about wacky first time smoking weed. Yeah, yeah. But I really want to know what is your number one munchy when you're hot. Like what is a snack that you need to have when you're sitting at home?

Like, is it like a certain cookie, a brand of cookies? Is it like Doritos? Is it like fucking cosmic brownies? Like those little Debbie cosmic brownies? Yeah, yeah. These people don't pay me, but funnions. Bro, I love funnions. That's your shit.

Yeah, funnions go crazy when you're stoned. It tastes like steak. Oh, man. I haven't had funnions in years. It's crazy. Don't start because you're not going to stop. I think I'm going to, I think I'm going to get into it because now I just have a taste. I'm going to go get some after this.

Yo, funnions, bro. Have you ever had the funnions, the hot funnions? I don't like anything. I don't want to fuck with it. I don't like the flaming hot shit on, on stuff. I like the flaming hot Cheetos. Yeah, I just don't like the flaming hot. seasoning.

Yeah, okay. Anything with flame and hide on there? It's weird for you. I can't do it, bro. Yeah, no, this won't do it. Yeah, man. I'll feel you. I'll feel you.

Yeah, yeah. What is your dream blunt rotation with, like, using cartoons? Like, who's the four cartoon characters that you would love to smoke with? I'll do mine after yours. Okay, four Donatello from Ninja Turtles. Okay.

Maybe Beavis from Beavis from Beavis and Butthead. Oh, wow, that's really great. Rocco, Rocco's Modern Life. Uh-huh. Oh, oh, George Jetson. Okay. Yeah, yeah, he is.

Hell yeah. Okay. So, let me see. Mines would be, I'm going to go with a Ninja Turtle first because you went to the guy to. I would definitely smoke with Michael Angelo. Yep. He seems like the stoner of the crew.

Yeah, for sure. Doug, funny. Actually, Doug and Skeeter. Yeah, yeah. Smoked both of them. Motherfuckers, right? Stimpy from Renna Stimpy. Nice.

And there's this character, this cartoon that came out. It was very short-lived. But it was called Freakazoid. Do you remember Freakazoid? I do remember Freakzoid. I would love to smoke with Freakzoid. Freakzoe. He was crazy, bro.

He already was like while he used to crack out. Yeah. Like, he was a little trippy. Yeah. You know? Freakazoid's a good cartoon, bro. Yeah, I used to draw him. Like, I loved, like, how he looked.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's a rare gem. Yeah. I don't know how many people. It was like a lightning bolt or something like that. Yeah, he was a nerd that fell into the computer and like became freaksoid.

Yeah, you know. Nice. What are some of your favorite collabs outside of hip-hop? Honestly, my collab with Adam Levine and in Maroon 5 on Payphone. Yep. It's one of the bigger songs that I've been involved with. And he just looked out, man. He was a G about that whole situation.

And they already had the song done. And he was like, I want to put whiz on here. Like he was just like, I need whiz on the song. And they had me come down to the studio, record my verse. Then when they shot the video, they were trying to shoot the video without me. Like, they were just going to shoot their part. He was like, no, we're shooting a video a whiz in it. I'm like, damn, you could have really just shot the video without me.

And he was like, no, I wanted to make sure that your part is on there. And then they, of course, they play it on the radio without my part because it's easy to cut the rap part out. Yeah. But I've done like multiple performances with him. And he just really looked out on like involving me with that song and making sure that it was a song that we shared and it wasn't just like them using me for the moment.

Yeah. You know, I had a lot of momentum at that time. But I think like for him it was like you genuinely wanted to make sure it was like a real ass, real ass thing. Yeah. So I appreciated that. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

When people look out for you in that way, especially like the OGs, people who have been doing it for a while, you know? Yeah. It's a beautiful thing, man. Like, I remember working with, like, $100,000 a couple times. And it was just, like, he wanted, he didn't want to just come and do a verse. He wanted to, like, share the record with me. He wanted us to both have equal moments on the record.

Right. You know? Yeah. and I'm one of very few people that have been in a studio with Aud 50,000 and watch him cook. Right. You know what I mean? And like to learn from him in that moment, like to watch him. And, you know what I say?

Let me see what you come up with first. And then I'll figure it off from there. So I'd always start it off and then he'd piggyback off it and then come up with something super fucking. dope but it was just watching him and how confident he was with his choices. It was just inspiring, you know? But he was just so gracious.

Yeah. And like your situation with Adam, like when you have someone who you look up to who, you know, it's like you're almost in this place where like I wonder is this a fucking joke? Like why do they want to me?

Why are he being so cool? Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I mean, that's how it was when I first started working with Kanye, I was like, what the fuck do I have what's going on? Why does he want me on this? Like, why is he doing all this?

You know? Yeah. But it's beautiful to hear your stories because we've had similar experiences on different paths, but in the same realm. Yeah.

You know? And it's, it's really nice to hear you kind of reflect on these moments and talk about, you know what I mean? Because it's like, I just spent so many years in my life being depressed and being like stuck in my own hell and not paying attention to nothing but what was right in front of me. You know what I mean? So like my career was the only career I knew, you know?

But it's, it's dope because it's like, man, everybody has a story and everybody's had to survive this industry for over 15 years. and like we're still here and you know you have fans that fucking love you i have fans that fucking love me yeah like we're both ill in our own right like when people see us together they rejoice hell you know what i mean like it's it's like yeah that's all like i keep seeing when people see us on twitter engaging or you know uh you'll see in the comments of this post when we post this podcast. Fucking right.

You know what I mean? Like people just really, you know, love to see us together. Yep. You know? And that brings me to like saying that, like, I really truly want

weed induced coma to be something very fucking epic. It will be. I think we get the fucking orchestra on them. I think we really go Han Zimmer style. It will be. And really make something cinematic as fuck. But for every stoner in the world.

I trust you, dog. You know? That's what I'm here to do is when we were cooking up the first time, chat was like, what you're going to do? I'm like, whatever he doesn't do. You know what my favorite line from the chat was from another chat, but the stream is when you were like, yeah, so my dude told me with two Tony Hawks. Yeah.

I love that. I love that. true and then I came up with the name Stony Hawk after that oh that's fire yeah fire because I never threw that out there I'm like we had so many meetings it's right there Stony Hawk bro oh bro it's right there for the 10 you know you've been doing it so long I have my favorites what's your favorite venue to ever perform at I love red rocks red rocks is dope red rocks is my shit because it feels like super futuristic there's this spot and uh I think It's like Minneapolis are like some crazy, I forget what the fuck this spot is called.

But it's got a pool in the basement. Like it's like haunted and shit. What the fuck? This is weird, random ass spot. That's one of my favorite spots to go to Indianapolis, bro. Indiana. Nice. Yeah, I love performing out there.

They're just crazy, bro. Like, if it rains, like sometimes they'll try to shut the show down and then they'll just, just like be outside making mudslides and like just fucking living in it. Getting after a woodstock box. Hell yeah. Oh my God. What's your favorite country to perform in? I'll probably say Brazil.

Yeah, I love Brazil. Yeah. Yeah, Brazil's cracking. You be out there with the women, don't you? Your freaky ass whiz be out there with your fucking silk shirt, fucking chain on, shades on a night. Like, The women out there will tell you exactly what you deserve and show you what you deserve.

And it's not like that anywhere. I mean, like, every, it's not like that everywhere where they're like, you need this. Like, you're right. You're right. You can't get no writer. But the energy is cool. They're into, like, you know, martial arts,

mixed martial arts out there too. So it's like, you train, you serve. It's like a whole badass lifestyle, bro. Like, yeah, yeah, it's cool, bro. Yeah, I got to, I haven't even really spent much time in Brazil. Yeah. You know, I got to be on my Ninja Turtle shit, man. Yeah, bro.

I got to, I got to get out the house more, man. There's so much I haven't seen. It's cool. You'll get there. Yeah, I'll grow up one day. Yeah, no, it's just like a comfort zone thing. Like, for me, like, I like being outside of my comfort zone. Like that shit makes me happy.

Yeah. Like, you know, just being loud and engaging and meeting people that I don't know. Like, I love that shit. I love meeting people too. I like fucking with people, yo. Like, just talking to them and, like. But that's why I started this podcast. Yeah.

This is like what I like to do. I love to like sit. Hell yeah. With people and like get to know them and chop it up. Oh, that shit is so fucking cool and so interesting. Like, yeah. It really is. Like, if I go out to eat, like, I'm going to like talk to the waiter.

I'm going to like, what's your name? What's up, Mike? Like, you know what I mean? Like, we're going to have a conversation because I'm just that type of person. Like, yeah. So I really feel like, you know, if I go places, of course it's going to be for work and shit like that

and we got to get our job done. You got to make the best of it. Have to, you know? I mean? You just be going to record stores, buying records and shit like that and just like experience, like doing, I go get some incense or some candles or something like that

or, you know, just like to get out and about and just do some stuff, man. Well, I'm like a 15-year-old. Boy, I go to the toy stores, the vintage toy stores. Exactly. By vintage toys. Hell yeah. Fucking right.

I mean, it fulfills me. Hell yeah. It's one of the funny things I do when I'm on tour. I mean, but if you can imagine, you have to do it. Every city I go to one, and they're all different, and they all have different shit. Yeah, exactly. It's so fucking cool. And you wake up with it on your mind.

Yeah, and then I get back. I have to. I get back after tour, and then I have a shit ton of toys that I need to play. Yeah. Somewhere in my fucking house. I want to ask, as your relationship with your hits changed over the years, like, is it like, you know,

songs like black and yellow and see you again? You know what I mean? Like, does it, like, because for me, for day and night, I know some people have a weird thing with their older songs or their biggest songs, you know? It's almost like some artists don't ever perform their biggest songs.

Right. But like, I just kind of started putting day and night in my set because, you know, I hadn't done it since back in the day. And, you know, I even started performing Mali-Wa-Wi, too, because what happened with TikTok and shit. Right, right. But, like, do you like to perform older songs? Do you keep those in your set and always kind of do a journey through your discography?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I do always perform my older songs. Luckily, I still like my older songs. I look at it like like music of the decades and shit like that so it's like if you do now

that's what I call music whatever like you just have to have certain songs and it's like nobody's going to ever be mad hearing them songs and it's like that to me that's a privilege

to have songs that nobody will ever get pissed hearing like yeah and then we have multiple of them like some people just have one or two. Bro, we got a whole wall full of those songs.

Between the two of us, we got some serious. Bro, it's like we have a lot of those songs. Yeah. So to be able to revisit that. And then I also think about other countries and other ages of music. Like when I was, you know, probably like seven to about 15, I didn't even hear words of music.

Like, you know, I knew the lyrics. And I could repeat the lyrics, but I didn't know what none of that shit even meant. Yeah, yeah. So it's like there's people who don't even know what that shit even really fucking means. Like, we write with our souls and we're really telling the story.

But it takes time for that shit to even develop and for people to even know what you're talking about. So I think about that as well. It's like some people, they still on the top layer of that shit. I'm, you know, 15, 20 years in. But they still scratching the surface when it comes to some of those songs. Yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, I like to dig in. I like to give those, I like to give that to him. I like to do the new stuff as well, but I also know, like, when I go see an artist that I love who's been doing it for a long time and they do too much new shit, I'm like, come on, bro. I feel you. Give me that shit, dog.

That's funny you bring that up because I'm like, you know, a couple weeks ago, I was just kind of like fine-tuning my set list. And, you know, there was a, there was a whole thing online where on Twitter, somebody asked me to post a set list. And I was like, this is weird. I was like, people actually do this. People actually post their set list before their concert and, like, just ruined a surprise. And a lot of people were really upset because there were a lot of people that really wanted me to tell them what to expect.

So I took a few days and thought about it I was like look I want to I'll say something But you know I'm not going to give too much away But I'm gonna I'm gonna give people an idea of what to expect right And I did a story on my IG where I was kind of just like hey this is going to be A celebration of my discography We'll do some new stuff But I know I have

13 albums of shit to go through And cover and songs that I have songs that I haven't performed in years, some songs I haven't performed at all, you know. Yep. And the fans were really into that shit. They were like, yeah, this is, this is fucking dope, you know? Like, I, it was never my plan to come out on tour and do, like, my last album all the way through, you know, like, there's so many other songs.

Like, I never got to tour in Seno and Enano, Enano, I broke my foot. You know what I mean? I had to cancel that last tour, right? So even though there's like three albums I have to cover, it's still like 10 more than I have to cover two. You know what I mean? Yep. And like there's just no way I could do a show

and not do the Mr. Ragers or the tequila shots or, you know what I mean? Yep. These are like songs that people like, they are, they're like showing up knowing, that that song is going to be played and then they can fucking sing it at the top of their lungs. For sure. You know what I mean?

Yep. And it's crazy, man. I feel when you're out on stage and you know you have the perfect set list, right? And you see the reactions. Like one song after the other, you play that song. You drop that shit, you see,

ah. Yep. You drop another one. Yeah. It's like, everybody's like, this is my shit. Yeah. That's my shit.

And it is so validating and it feels so good because, like, I don't know if other artists feel this way, but that means so much to me, like, that they're loving the curation of music that I chose. You know what I mean? Or like when people after the concert are like, yo, that was the best concert, you know or not. For sure. As a fan of music, how do you find new music? Like me, I like fucking, like, put on Spotify. I'll play one song. And I just let it play.

Mm-hmm. You know, or do it with Apple Music as well. Yep. Like, how do you discover music? Do you have people putting you on, people seeing you records? Do you, like, are you actually on the Internet looking for new music? Yeah, I actively be, like, fucking searching for new shit. IG, you can find a lot of shit on IG.

Yeah. There's just be random shit that be playing during clips. Or, but what the hell is that? or some people have shit on their story that I follow and I'll be like, you know, figure it out. But Spotify is good girls. Yeah. Yeah, girls have like really good music selection.

They do. Yeah, so like I just ask chicks. Yeah. I'm like, what are you listening to her? Yeah, I told my wife to make me a playlist, but she hasn't made me one yet. Yeah, yeah. I'm really waiting on it because she or her, you know, and she's French. So she, her palette of music is gonna be different.

Yeah. You know what I mean, the mine. Yeah. So I don't really like party like that no more. And plus when you go out to the club, they play Soldier Boy. So you're not really gonna get no new shit in the club. No, no, no. But like my homies, they still be like chilling with people.

So if they got people around, like maybe it's after a show, they got people around. I'll let a chick get on the ox. And I'll just be like asking her like what she's playing or like, you know, be diving to those artists. Like, because I'll definitely hear some. shit that I'd never heard before. But girls put you on to a lot. Hell yeah. Like

I mean, every dude needs to know that like girls are the secret to knowing cool shit. For sure. You know? Yep. Like, they determine if something is cool or not. 100%. That's when

you elevate your taste level. Yeah. Start listening to chicks. Yeah. Like, my wife is so like, she's so sharp with to shit. Like, you know, I ask her advice about everything. It's a beautiful thing to have that, like, in the house with me. Yeah. Like, I don't have to Google. I can just ask my wife. I like bossy chicks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like chicks who would be like, say how it is. Exactly. Like, not controlling. No, but just keep it way funky. Yeah, super duper funky.

Yeah. That's cool. I think it's because my mom is, like, really bossy. So that's how I know how to communicate. I don't know how to communicate with like sugarcoat and that shit. Yeah, my mom is like the Elsie. Yeah, my mom be like, put some, my mom's name. Put some, my mom's name is Peachy. Pitchie and Elsie. Yeah, yeah. My mom be like, Mama whiz, mama cut. For sure. My mom be like, put some lotion on them ashy ass hands. He just be like, oh.

Okay, mama. All right, man. It's time for the rapper. But these are a few random questions to close up the show. You ready? Yeah, let's do it. Okay. What's one thing you nerd out about that we might not expect? Right now is plants.

Okay. Yeah. I'm super into plants, bro. Do you, like, have a garden? I'm just turning my house into a jungle, bro. I love it. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, it's crazy.

It's super dope. Oh, man, it's sick. To just go with the weed. It's perfect. Yeah, yeah, for sure. What is your favorite chain watch or piece of jewelry? My favorite piece of jewelry now is the beads that I wear. I actually got you some.

Oh. Yeah, this is Tiger's eye. Oh, yeah, you wear that. That's for protection. Oh, man. You know what I mean? That's what I like. Yeah, get you right.

Right next to the AP. There you go. That type of shit. We match the jacket too. Boom, Wong, why itself? I was thinking about you. I was like, I'm going to see cut. Oh, man.

Let me get, let me get. Bringing gifts. Oh, get gifted. Get gifted. Yeah. Artemis II went to the moon. If you were to go to space, what would your aircraft be called? Wisdomis Prime.

That's great. What's your favorite moment of a music legend showing you love? I probably say like Buster Rhymes gives like really big hugs. He does. He does. He's a gargantuan man. He, like, gives your big hug. He calls you a king.

He, like, tells you how, like, graceful your journey has been. Yeah. It's really, he just embraces you. I like getting hugged by Buster Rimes, man. Buster Rhyme performed at my 40th birthday party. Yeah, I fuck with Buster, man. Yeah, he's a great guy. He is a good dude.

You know, him is Slipped. They came through, and I remember when I first got signed a Motown, I had a party for me in this little event. And Buster Rhyms came and I met him And he was like, yo, what's up, million dollar kid, man, a million dollar kid? And we're showing love and I was just like, dude, you're Buster Rhy. Hell of love, bro. He'll hype you up real nice, bro. He met my mom at the BET Awards.

He was so funny. He met my mom at the BAT Awards. It was so funny. I was like, yo, Buster me my mom. He was like, what's up, Black Queen? And I was like, oh my God. I was like, my mom couldn't believe it. What's your biggest moonshot, a goal, a dream, or ambition that might seem impossible?

Damn, because I could kind of like see. see like where I'm going to be and who I am. And I don't think like any of us really like impossible. There's a lot of money involved. But when people see the amount of money, I don't want them to trip out. I don't want them to think that like that's going like into my bank account. This amount of money is going to get used to do something.

Right. When I get it. I think that's probably like the biggest thing that I see and know is like how how valuable my operation is going to be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

With the tree. Yeah. With just everything, the whole lifestyle, like, it's just all going to come together and just be just this thing. And it's going to be used to help other things as well, but it's going to be crazy. Who's one guest do you think I should have on the show? Currency. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. None deal. Have currency going Currency. We don't know how you come through. No, I've never met currency. Yeah.

Spitter, man. Yeah, man. Yep. So everybody loves Spitter. He's such a good dude, bro. He seemed like it, man. Yeah. He's the...

That's my big bro. Yeah. Like, for show, like, like, you don't get friends like that in the industry. Yeah. We're not like industry friends. We're like... And then I have to remember, like,

that I'm younger than him. Yeah. Yeah. Because I just got so much respect for him and so much love, but, like, I'm actually, like, his little homie. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Yeah. Well, when you get those relationships in this industry, you keep them close. Yeah, for sure. For sure. You lock in. Yeah, yo. And that's what we're doing. We locked in.

Bro, we're there. Anytime, every time. We can just keep doing this, you know? Keep, like, you know, coming up with shit, and then I'll just pull up. They're right. Damn right. We're in the kitchen, man. We've been in the kitchen.

Well, my nigga, thanks for coming, man. Yeah, we got to finish the EP. Yes. You just let me know, like, what you want to do next session. We don't have to stream everyone. We don't have to stream. We're not going to stream everyone. Yeah, yeah.

We want you guys to be surprised about what, when the album comes out, you know. We don't want every record you to be heard already. Yep. But we are going to work on this EP. We induce coma. It's coming this year, right? Yeah. Can we do it this year?

Hell yeah. It's coming this year. This summer. This summer. Yep. Okay. But this is happening, y'all. It is.

We didn't doce coma. Yep. You heard it here first, 420 episode. Oh, shit. Thanks for coming. Peace. Thanks for coming through the attic and celebrating 420 with us. Big love to Jimmy Johns on this one.

Until next time, love yourself, take care of each other. And remember, dream all. Peace. Thank you.