BigDeal - #45 How to Complete Overhaul Your Health in 2025 | Aaron Alexander

Episode Date: January 8, 2025

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Welcome back to the Big Deal podcast. I'm Cody Sanchez for those who don't want to just be rich but free and willing to do what it takes to get there. Okay, today, Aaron Alexander, this man is an absolute savage. He's trained Laird Hamilton. He's trained Aaron Rogers. He's trained a bunch of A-list celebrities. I can't even say, and he doesn't talk about them on the internet. But what's most interesting about him is it's actually not about fitness today, really at all. This is about how you work, what your work setup looks like. So if you have back pain at all, knee pain, hip pain, you're going to want to listen to this. If you want to figure out how do you attract more people through your body posture, if you want to know if you look like a beta and alpha just from the way you're presenting yourself, this is for you. Also, if you are at all interested in physiologically, how do we get more

healthy in our day to day without having to add a bunch of fucking biohacks that nobody has time to do? This is the episode for you. He also talks about perineum sunning. So there's that. Also, you guys, we did a study and we realized 82% of you are actually not subscribed to the So you watch the videos, but you haven't hit that little subscribe button. So do it right now so we can get bigger guests, better guests, more fun things to do for all of you guys. Let's get into it. I think you can talk about this. I can talk about whatever.

I saw you doing some crazy training with Kelly Slater back in the day. Laird Hamilton. Oh, right. Whoops. Other surfer. Yeah. What's the deal? Do these guys bring you in to do training with them? What does it look like to train with a surfer underwater to hold your breath for 47 years? How does that work? So Laird was just like mutual connections, and I was working with Aaron Rogers at the time.

So I went through all of his rehab and such during the season that he toured his Achilles. And Laird is neighbors with Aaron. And so we reached out to them and to go over and just like do some pool training, just kind of like diversify the type of training. And also training with community is really helpful as well. and incorporating all the metabolic stuff with breath holds and temperature regulation, all that stuff. But you, I mean, these guys are pro athletes. They ostensibly know how to work out.

What do you bring to the equation? Because you do some crazy shit that I've seen on the internet. Like, what are you getting them to do that they're not doing previously? I think, I mean, I would have like a BS joking response first, but going past that, I think probably just diversity. The main thing that I specialize in, which I don't really talk about so much, is body work, manual therapy. Rolfing, structural integration is something that, I don't know, probably nobody really knows what that is exactly. It's a type of manual therapy or body work that focuses on fascia or connective tissue, and also specializes or focuses on the integration of the body. So traditional massage therapy is oftentimes like efflurege, you're rubbing all of the tissue.

When you're working with fascia, specifically, it's kind of more like slothelage. deep contact and it's about rehydration of connect tissue and unbinding fascial layers. So a person can get like stuck in their body from sitting around all day long or from doing the same repetitive motions. Those muscle bellies will start to agglomerate as the term for it, actually bind together. That becomes dehydrated. You almost get like stuck in your movement patterns. My specialty would be unbinding those patterns and then integrating that with movement. So first you do the body work stuff and I do a combination of like, you know, you see me do like acro yoga and a bunch of weird stuff and then the manual techniques and then integrating that with movement. And the movement's what kind of like it's like pressing a save on the file.

So if you just get a massage and you come out and you're all like loose and you feel great, that's lovely, but then you typically will just go back to the same patterns afterwards. And so reteaching a person new movement patterns so that doesn't come back. And then the next layer would be going in and checking out a person's home, checking out a person's work life. Like, how do you actually engage with your body for the other 85% of the day? Because your training is a very minuscule part of your actual movement experience or movement practice throughout the day. That's fascinating. So like a holistic lens on movement and training. What is rolfeing exactly?

That sounds kind of painful. Does that hurt? Yeah. Rolfing comes from a gal called Ida P. Rolf. It's kind of in like a similar vein or family as osteopathy. And naturally. Yeah, right. And so if you've heard of fascia, which has become like a popular term in the last whatever decade or so, with trainers and yogs and stuff like that, that was kind of like the, like the, she set a lot of the foundation and groundwork for people to start really investigating fascia.

And so fascia is this infinitely complex connective tissue that's binding all of, all of your organs and your parts and all the structures in your body. It's like the communication network for your whole entire body, and it works specifically with that network. Interesting. And so if somebody is in pain in particular because of like a muscle movement or like you said, too much repetitive action, then they would come and first you would sort of dig into them with this rolophane technique. And then you would do maybe. First I would probably look at their breath. So I did private practice working with clients and specifically manual therapy for like 15 years. and then that kind of shifted into the podcast and other stuff, social media and online programs and all that.

But when I was specifically like all day, I'd see like four to six clients a day. And that was kind of like my game. And so anytime someone would come in, I would watch how they, it's a little creepy, but I'd like watch how they would get out of the car. I'd watch how they walk in. So I would like observe their movement and their patterns and their breathing and all that stuff before they would actually see me because now they like know that I'm like, analyzing.

You know, so one of the big things is, you know, breath is like the foundation of everything. You know, so if you are feeling stressed out chronically, if you're feeling, like, sleep is challenged for you, if you're chronically having, like, tense muscles, hypertonicity, your breathing is going to be the foundation for regulating all those systems. And so if a person is chronically, like, stuck in an inhalation, like, you know, that's, like, what happens when you get surprised or you get scared. have a full exhalation. Like even just doing that now,

like, you know, going into an interview or something like that, a really beautiful thing for you to do is emphasize your exhalation. Also slow down your pacing of your words. You know, you can even like, that will start to just naturally start, your voice will start to get a little bit deeper. You know, and so your vocal chords, it's all a tonicity thing. So if your vocal cords are really tight, you start talking like this, you start going really fast.

If you slow things down, it's kind of, like a bottom up approach at augmenting the way that you feel modulating your state, you know change in your your state Tony Robbins stuff and so something as simple as that like you can probably feel right now even just me slowing down a little bit just doing a sigh because we're always attuning to each other you know and you're big with communication and rapport closing deals all that stuff if we're communicating in such a way where i feel nervous which coming into this i was a little bit nervous because i want to like do a good job for you And so in that, previous to that little bookmarked moment where I exhaled, I could observe myself being a little bit, talking a little bit faster, my voice probably even a little bit higher, just that simple exhale, ah, and a pause.

And even like a breath hold. You know, all of that, what's happening when you exhale, it's actually causing your diaphragm to raise up. and it's causing the blood vessels in around your heart to get a little bit smaller, which causes your heart rate to slow down. It's called sinus respiratory arrhythmia, is the fancy term for it, but it sends a signal into your blood vessels and your brain say, okay, let's slow things down a little bit. So actually it's that parasympathetic side of the nervous system.

So if a person is coming in and they're tight and their traps are tight and their jaws tight and their hands tight and all that stuff, for you to just go in and start like banging away, chipping away at their shoulders, It's fine, it will have effect, but it wouldn't have as global of an effect as if you just first started coming in and just work with their breath. So do some ribcage stuff. You could even just work with a person. You can conduct really good therapy, like manual therapy, just through language, just through communication. Because if I communicate in such a way, it will affect your nervous system.

If your nervous system is affected, then the tone of your muscles and your connective tissue is also affected. That's so interesting because there's this study that we reference a lot about. how unders and over performers have sort of an unbalanced impact on people. And so if you're around top performers, top 10% performers in any company, those top performers can increase your performance by about 15%. If you're around underperformers, they actually decrease your performance by about 30%. So I always thought about it more as an execution of job activity, but it's really interesting that it could even just be, like you said, you're influenced.

even by the way that you breathe and how fast you talk, and that nervous energy kind of transfers. Do you find that to be true? For sure. And also I wonder within, you would know more about this than I would, but I wonder within a company, just having 100% overperformers, I wonder if that's almost imbalance in and of itself

where it's nice to have like a jester around. Or someone's like, they're just a silly bitch, and they lighten the vibe, and they bring happiness and joy and connection and this familial tie to the team. So like they mess up every now and again, but they just make everybody feel so good. Yeah, we've got a personality hire. She's like that, but her name's Lindsay.

And she self-proclaims herself to be a personality hire. It's an important thing. Yeah, she was dancing in my office the other night at 8.30 at night. I'm like, the fuck is wrong with you, but we all smiled. And you're right. I think that's really interesting. So even as like a member of a team, you could bring sort of different energy to the team and probably be built. be highly valued from that too.

Yeah, and it would affect the direction of the company. You know, so if the company is just about the bottom line and the ROI and the numbers, it's cool. You'll get, you know, money and assets. You'll acquire things. But ultimately, that probably won't lead to, like, a higher quality of life to the same degree of, like, I enjoyed every step of the process and I died with $100 million, but I enjoyed the whole process. Totally.

Compared to I was just grinding through my life, I've got $100 million. I don't have any friends. I've just like I've like I missed it and now I'm on my deathbed and I'm like holy crap what am I going to do with all this paper Yeah exactly I got a lot of paper a lot of paper around I'm gonna start calling money paper from now on like that You know I'm like trying to envision you like walk into Two huge celebrities Aaron Rogers or or Laird Hamilton

Do they ever think it's weird when you bring these ideas to them like how do you how do you how do you ease them in? They taught performers just already know this stuff and they know it's important. Okay. When I sell my business, I want the best tax and investment advice. I want to help my kids, and I want to give back to the community. Ooh, then it's the

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You know whatever the other like big time celebrity type folk that might be a little bit more like linear That I've worked with or just people in general For them it would be more meeting them where they're at everything is business deal like everything is sales everything is rapport building and so if I meet you where you're at then you can trust me because ultimately you want more tribe that's that's similar to yourself and so similar like a starting point would be like the way I dress we just happen to be wearing the exact same thing right now we're buddies yeah so that's a cool thing so already immediately there's a little if we already knew each other before and like had rapport and connection all that stuff but if we

didn't immediately upon connection be like I like her a little bit more right because we like people that are like us we like this we want us to win right and so we want our tribe to win And so the next thing would be like matching the fingerprint of another person's nervous system, which sounds a little like poetic and wanky to say, but, you know, the way a person, the cadence of a person's breath is something you will naturally start to attune to. And you're going to attune to whoever is the most like alpha in the room. You know, and typically the most alpha person, hopefully is the most calm person because they're relaxed. They don't have anything to hide or protect from.

Unless they're a king, in which case, then they put their throne in the back of the walls. there's nobody behind them and they can see, you know, all of the minions and the crowd and there's like a threat, they might be a little more stressed out. But if you're leading, like, from beside and you're actually like a leader that's, you know, respects people within them, probably you're pretty calm because you don't feel like people are trying to, like, assassinate you. You know, so that would be something that you're naturally going to do to bridge connection with somebody is you're naturally going to start to mimic their breathing pace, right? So that's something that's pretty interesting.

You're going to naturally start to mimic their facial gestures. You're going to actually start to mimic their body language. So if I go into a room and people are, you mentioned like the technic stuff, if people are kind of like slouchy and technecky and, you know, maybe they haven't been outside very much and they're like the skin's pale and they're drinking a bunch of BPA or whatever, I don't want to come in and be too like full throttle, chest out, you know, jack, tan, glass water bottle, spiritual crystals. It's too much, right? So I need to like wind it back a little. I need to kind of like, okay, I got to fit in a little bit, calm down. You know, it's maybe a little slouch is fine. You know, I don't need to be doing like some pigeon pose in the middle of the meeting.

Like I can kind of like relax into this little bit. And then we build connection. And then from there we go into like, okay, now I have something to share with you. And so if a person that's more type A, you know, structured, then for them it's going to be like, okay, we're going to get, you're going to go through, we're going to do blood testing. We're going to give you lots of, like, documents. We're going to set goals. And we're going to measure your calories and your macro.

grows and we're going to give you a structured program and something you can follow and trust. And then from there, once we build that bridge of trust, then we can start adding some of the other like esoteric principles. That's wow. So you probably are incredibly observant with people, like just extreme body awareness, like very observant naturally. Is that part of? I think we all are.

I just put language to it. Interesting. Yeah, that's what's governing the way that we communicate. You know, there's like, I don't remember the specific, I think it's the, there's the, there's 38, 55, 387 principle of body language is the suggestion is that 7% of our communication comes from the actual words that we're saying to each other, and then 38 is coming from the tone of the way that we communicate, and then 55 is coming from body language. And where that is relevant is if there's conflict between the two. So if you're just talking to somebody on the

phone, obviously it's going to be a little bit different. But if you're in communication with somebody and I'm telling you some words. You know, I'm saying like, you know, I'm a big fan of you. You're doing a really great job. But maybe I'm saying that in a tone that is kind of like fast or high pitched or maybe my hips are facing the door. Maybe I'm like a little bit fidgety. You're like, I don't trust this person. You know, so that little 7% of the actual words you're saying is significantly less than the tone in the body language. And so then it gets into like if you want to be successful in your business or your closing of deals for you to have the capacity to have the flexibility and range of motion with your facial gestures and with your body language and with your

the movement of communication that will allow you to adapt to a broader set of environments whereas if you're stuck in your body you have one mode you're good for somebody and some group of people but you're not good for everybody which is valuable if you want to be like a year that's really good at a thing which some people are and that's perfect that's great but if you want to be able to walk in 25 different rooms and be able to kind of make make deep connection with quickness in those it would be helpful for you to probably explore things like dance you know or like work out or get yourself like get yourself healthy so you have a broader range of motion of the way that you can communicate that would never thought about it that way speaking of which like let's

say that you're you know you're a young dude you want to to project confidence to women, want to engage with them confidently. What body language do you put out there? What would you tell them to do? Relax. So people like to be around people that make them feel good. Right? So if you can make people laugh, or not make people laugh, if you can open up, you know, the potential for laughter or whatever, it would be a little weird sadistic, like make somebody laugh. But if you can open up laughter and lightheartedness, like that's obviously going to be healthy, but that's something that's a little bit harder to like teach something that's really

really easy to teach is just chill you know so if you go into a place and people were stressed out they're feeling anxious they're worried about whatever the thing is and for like whatever it is just whenever Bobby comes in everybody just like calms down a little bit you know so for a woman what a woman generally wants and what anybody wants but I think women probably even lean higher in this is safety you know so a woman wants to be able to trust and she wants to be able to feel safe she wants to be able like she can put her guard down women are like prey animals in a city you know like i would imagine walking around a city and being as like a semi-attractive woman you just have the sensation of everybody

wants to eat me you know so guys want to eat daily yeah you know and i think there's probably a lot about women that men don't understand them never be able to understand because they don't actually understand like to me I actually look forward to the idea of someone breaking into my house because I have a gun like sitting under your psychopath my husband's just like this a lot of guys are so what have you fantasized this out fully like have you thought about like regularly last night so what's the protocol I was on the phone last night I was talking to somebody I'm going to Miami for the winter and so I have somebody that's going to be staying at my place I'm talking the phone I'm naked I'm in my bed we're talking and we're just like

BS and about whatever and I hear something downstairs I'm casually talking in the phone I reach underneath my bed I grab my gun there's like a little flashlight thing on it and I'm walking around the corner with my gun as I'm having a casual conversation with the girl that's not what a woman experiences no nope nope I'm not like the saying it'd be better if I was naked I don't walk I mean I do have a gun so that is part of it but no Chris my husband has a full projection of what he will do I think about it several times a week. I'm not embellishing. Wait, I have another man question. Do men also often think, I have this friend Sam Parr and one of his favorite things to talk about is he goes, you know,

when I'm in a meeting with people, sometimes I just look around and I think I could beat them all up. All the time. All the time. Particularly less if I'm, so different things bring out different personalities. Right now I've been obsessing more over boxing and kickboxing. So that creates, it's almost like you have this like imprint of your if you want to like punch and kick and you start to see the world a little bit more aggressive in a way Jiu-jitsu is a similar thing if I'm training Jiu-jitsu a lot which I haven't for a while but I used to it's a similar thing like you're just looking and you're like okay I can grab their wrist and little wrist lock right come up behind them and like we're naked and it's just I think it's just like boredom really we have so much time on our hands you know and our brains just want to create

and I think men naturally want to protect men want to feel purposeful and like the highest expression of purpose and like an immediate sense for a man is I can protect a woman physically. It's like, it's like the thing that most men, no matter their size, big, small, whatever, like they're praying for that moment to be able to, it's just like a dog. Like we both, you know, recently did the thing with muttlove and all that. And I've been fostering a dog. What she desires most is just to feel like she was purposeful for me. So she barks and all that stuff.

She doesn't really care about somebody out there. It's just she wants to like show up for me and protect. That's what a man wants to do for one. That's such a good point. Yeah, that was really cool, by the way. We should give them a shout-out, which is Muttlove rescue for Belgian Malinwa. Oh, yeah. And you were really cool.

I posted it on my Instagram and was like, we're trying to get 10 puppies fostered. It was like breaking my heart, too, because they're beautiful, intelligent dogs. And we had a hell of a time getting them fostered. And you were one of the very few people that were like, I'll take one. Yeah. And, you know, it's not like your life. style makes that easy. It's not like you aren't traveling around all the time and with stuff to do. And I thought that was really cool. Yeah, very additive. Yeah, well, you know, a lot of people

talk about all the reasons why they can't do things. And that was not you. Yeah. Something else that's interesting is I'm holding this tea. Have you heard of any of the research where when people hold like a, a, when they read a resume of someone and it's from on a like a heavy, thick, what's it called, clipboard, they will perceive the resume as being like, wait. and more sturdy and like more trustworthy. It's a similar thing if there was research done with people holding a cold beverage versus holding a warm beverage if those were holding this is very clever. I mean you guys didn't do this intentionally But me holding a warm beverage right now based on the research would cause me to have more of a sensation of perceiving the world around me Including like where I'm projecting my focus being you yeah as being more warm and like open and like ah

Whereas if I'm holding like an ice cold cold lemonade here, I would see you as being, like, project the lemonade onto my world around me. Yeah, I've actually heard that research, but I've never thought about using it. That's actually quite clever to think about, you know, and if you bring people into your sphere, can you have warm? I think about it, actually that's not true. I always have a warm coffee when I film because I'm pretty in my head and, you know, linear, maybe, as you would say. And so a lot of the stuff that I talk about is like, deals and duh, and money and that. And that can feel harsh and it and can feel cold.

and it can feel mean maybe even. And so when I hold a warm beverage, then for some reason, it reminds you to smile on it. Yeah, I used to have to have a sign that Samuel made for me, my videographer, that just said, shut up, what did it say? It said, smile bitch. Because I just wasn't, you know, I was like, and then the next step is, blah, blah.

And that's not really very, you want to, even if you're going to learn from somebody, you want to like them. How do you infuse, the way that you project yourself is, would be like traditionally a lot of, like, the masculine principles, like business, how do you infuse? And masculine feminine is just like a concept. It's not like an actual thing. And it doesn't relate to sex. But masculine, directive, head of the spear, get things done, you know, show up on time. Feminine, colorful, nurturing, you know, show up 25 minutes late. Like, it's all good. I'm just here for like love and beauty. You know, both men and women share those

things. It's nothing to do with sex. How do you infuse femininity into your life? It's hard. It's really hard. I think I talk to you about this. so we did that workout. I'm like, I'm trying to be more feminine, which sounds like the dumbest thing ever to say. Yeah, you can't, but so that's masculine. Yeah, exactly. I'm trying to be feminine. I'm like, four steps to be in a female. They're like, okay, well, we got to rework that. It's not going to work. But you know what I've found a lot of times is like when you want to feel something, just pretend you feel it and then you often start to feel it. And so I like, yeah. And, and I, um, I felt that with like, I don't actually care about makeup and hair and clothes.

very much. And I really didn't when I started. I kind of thought it was like a waste of time and like I look the way that I look and like I'll do whatever. And then I realized it's not very feminine and also like maybe I could play with it a little bit. And so then I started doing more makeup and hair and like playing around with jewelry and getting my nails done. And so I started doing these things that are perceived feminine so that maybe I would feel a little bit more feminine coming into it and then I ended up like loving it. And I had a lot of, yeah, I had fun with putting it all together and sort of the creative aspect of. So the funny thing is like what When a person is, quote, like, faking it until they're making it,

they're moving themselves into those positions, which isn't fake at all. And you are modulating your nervous system, your breathing patterns. You'll choose maybe textures that you wear, maybe more like soft and fluffy, or maybe they're kind of like sleek and sensual and you can like feel your body. You're like more touchable for other people, hopefully your partner or whatever, and as well as yourself. It actually physiologically changes your state, which ends up augmenting the way, that you think and the way that you feel.

And so it's actually like a real structural, tangible thing, the faking it until you make it. You're creating physiological change in that process of quote-unquote faking anything. You are the conductor of your physiology and your thoughts and your feelings and your emotions. And so if a person is feeling a certain way, which right now it's like I was reading this morning about like Americans, probably, you know, the Western world going through like a friendship recession where loneliness is becoming more and more. particularly around young people and you know depression is is on the rise and anxiety and I think a lot of this is a lot of people are quietly suffering

Because I would presume this is my experience with quietly suffering is you don't want to project I'm actually feeling lonely. I'm actually I feel like a loser. I feel disconnected. I feel unlovable I feel any of these things because you have an internalized fear that that's actually going to make you be like a social pariah. So you have to front and pretend like you have your shit together. And then you're around people because we're always rapport building and we're always attuning to each other. So now you cause other people to put a front up and now you have these superficial, vain plastic relationships when underneath what you really desire is just to feel safe enough to be vulnerable. I think you're very right on that. You know, and it's interesting because

I think, you know, we talk a lot about community, obviously, because we buy community businesses. We buy small businesses. And I think one of the biggest things that we've done to our society today is that we've kind of like sucked the soul out of everything that used to put us together. And that's to be a gross generalization. But think about it. I mean, I talk about it with the team. I don't buy, I'll buy any of their food that they want, you know, while they're at the office working or whatever, coffee, you know, lunch, whatever, but not from a big corporation. I'm like, if you want a coffee, it's not from Starbucks. It's from the local. coffee shop. And the reason why is because you feel, or at least I do, when I go into a Starbucks, they don't spell my name right. The place feels devoid of community. It used to be a third place. It no longer is. But when you go to Persian cafe down the way, you're like, oh, like, I remember, hey, Sally, good to see you again. And like you run into a friend there and it feels communal. And I think we've done that, at least from a business perspective in a big way. And I think that trickles down across everything in society. How important do you think, one, I'm also noticing

that you're crossing your legs as well, which is great. To be fair, I do this all the time. Oh, God, it's so much better for your health. Is it really? So much. Because I just feel like it much more comfortable. It's so dumb that we sit. Like your legs, your feet, your whole lower compartments are so far away from your heart in this position.

Oh, that's true. Why does that matter? Well, it's helpful for circulation, it's helpful for digestion. Like you want to get your blood back up in your center. Right? And then also being in that position, there's nothing wrong with sitting. Like sitting is fine. And a chair is nothing wrong with a chair.

It's just a tool. It's just the body needs some level of semi-perpetual like agitation to be able to circulate. You know, so there was another point that I was going to say, but this is also, I think, relevant and valuable. One of the things that's really important is we have these waste management systems in our body called our lymphatic system. And the places where your lymphatic system has the high concentration of platic glands are in places of a high volume of movement. So back behind your knees in your groin. groin in your hip area, in your abdomen, in your shoulders, in your neck. These are all places that just through evolution, they were placed there because naturally you would be walking across

the plane or wherever the heck you're walking at, depending upon your belief system, you would be kind of rinsing out those anatomical positions in the body through movement. So you're going like this with the rags of the day. So you're naturally running your waste management system. You're picking, that's like the garbage collector picking up all the old trash all day long. A person can start to get toxic and sick just in their own sedentariness. And so when you're sitting in that position and you're chronically flexing those positions, you're crimping off all of those valves and all of the precious tissue, the glands and such in the hips and in the knees and in the, you know, the neck, you have the forward head

posture stuff and you have the shoulders rolled forward, all that stuff. You're literally taking all of those plumbing systems, all those pipes and you're going, and then you're wondering why you have, fill in the blank, form of dis-eatheed. like you're toxic. And the way that you circulate your toxicity is through movement and expression. So expression could be, by becoming a more expressive person

and communicating like they do in Italy or Spain or anywhere in Latin America, they are actually cleaning themselves in their communication and their connection. I've never thought about it that way. That makes all the sense of the world. I've started getting lymphatic massages, really enjoying.

You don't need a lymphatic massage. You can literally just like go take a dance class. Wow. Yeah. And the nice thing I've actually people if people are interested there's a, I just posted a video on my YouTube channel with a guy called Perry Nicholston where it's we it's called it's just Aaron Alexander at YouTube. The YouTube's Align podcast. Oh yeah. Yeah, a line podcast. But one of the clips we posted, it's like a seven minute clip or so. Perry Nicholston, he's like the OG and lymphatic massage. One of the most important videos the person can watch. He calls it the big six and he takes people through this really simple and drainage exercise and it's really simple you like you rub along the collar bone

you rub around the armpit or around the stomach rubber on the groin or around back of the knees you kind of shake yourself up a little bit it takes like five minutes I'd highly recommend starting a little practice like that because it opens up those channels for your body to be able to circulate how often do you do that you do it every day every day yeah and it's also just nice at having physical touch with yourself as well people are very touch to pride which is a whole another conversation there's a woman so in my book the Align Method which I brought a copy of course. One of the chapters is all around the value of touch and there's research

that I included in there from it was in the University of Miami I believe and the woman Dr. Tiffany Field she wrote a book called Touch that's interesting if you want to go deeper into that. One of the things that she included in there was they did research with premature babies that were in incubators and they traditionally the lens would be don't touch them. They got to keep it sterile you don't want to get sick. And so what they started to introduce is like, I think these children need like the most human thing, which is love and connection and that sensation,

that deep visceral sensation of safety that arises from like, I'm safe with you. Like I have mother's contact. What they did was they introduced, it was just 15 minutes, if I remember correctly, 15 minutes of little like baby massage twice a day. And they found that the babies were able to grow.

I think it was like two times faster. They're eating the same amount of food, but suddenly just all of their systems, they go up into like, oh cool, like we can heal, we can grow, we can go in that parasympathetic, rest, digest, heal, repair state because we feel safe. And so if you're a person that's banging away

in your computer trying to make lots of Bitcoin or whatever, and you're just at home in your house, like untouched by anything, like your only physical contact is on the cold, hard, sad stool that you're sitting in front of your cold, hard, sad laptop. And it's just flat and it's banal and it's empty. And it's just numbers. If you're in that place, what you really need is a hug.

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It would be very helpful. You probably care less about the numbers on the screen. And that's what happens. If you're more, there's a book by a guy called Daniel, I think it's Daniel Muggo Christ. It's called Master and His Emissary. And it's about the left hemisphere, right hemisphere dynamic. And the left hemisphere is more like that kind of male dominant, rational, get it done. Right hemisphere is more creative, expressive.

Let's just, you know, throw paint in the wall and go take a vacation and have fun, love each other, and then we'll die someday. This would be great. That left hemisphere, you know, masculine, spearhead, get it to take a time. done, what happens is if that gets too much momentum and it gets too loud, it drowns out that side of like the nurturing and love. And so a person will become addicted to the numbers on the screen and they'll become addicted to the concept or illusion of winning while they're potentially hurting themselves, hurting

those around them, hurting the environment, hurting their community, but it's because they feel empty. And what they really need is love. And then they start making decisions like, you know what, I don't want to support that big evil corporation because I don't care that much about the bottom. line. Like I want to support people that I love and care about and I want to feel loved and cared about and I want reciprocity and I want a connection and I want to take care of all of the world. Like that's of a higher value to me than, you know, netting an extra whatever, $100,000.

Is that why you're a long hugger? Yeah, I think it's, I think it's, I think it's a little selfish. I, I, I, I gauge my hugging off of other people. If it's, if it's, you know, for you, I'm like a midway hugger. Okay. You know, I just kind of, I just kind of, I just of like subtly try to like respectfully nudge and like I'm kind of like I'm kind of like I'm here for more if you want no okay we're good we're good if you if you push it and you're uninvited not good not good okay and then how long is the longest hug that like you do normally I've had some some good 30 second hugs I would say 30 45 because what's nice what's nice is is and this I wouldn't want to do this if they're like little

Keep breathing with each other too. Because that's where I draw the line. So there's a turn. I lived in Hawaii when I was 18. I went to Hawaii. And you did a podcast with Brian Callan recently. God, he's hysterical. I did a podcast with him, I don't know, years ago when I lived in L.A.

And one of the things, a joke that he mentioned, we were like talking about traveling. It was like, you know, hashtag world traveler. How we're like subtly, you know, name dropping. Soutily, I live in Hawaii. No big deal. You know, all trying to like validate. there or in Hawaii they call white people howly howley howly means without breath and so the white man that came

I think it was like cook or whoever came and kind of like pillaged and killed and kind of like took the land from the Hawaiians there's probably a lot more details to it than that they were they would not greet each other that the way the Hawaiians would do the way that the Hawaiians would do is they would go up and they do like a little like connection with each other we're not going to do it But they do almost like a little Eskimo kiss, and they would exchange breath with each other. So we'd say, oh, hey, how are you doing? What's going on? How's the day?

Let's get to work. Wild. Every time. I mean, I never lived in Hawaii in the 1700. Yeah, it would be a much deeper form of connection. Whereas now the handshake from what I understand, I think handshake is like checking to see if there's like a weapon, which is pretty antiquated. Unless you're in Texas. That's normal.

Now it makes sense. So think about that, what that does to a culture. Interesting. So if you're in a place, which is like the Dunbar number, you know, a place like less than 400 people or whatever, it allows you to be, like I have a place in, I used to live in Bend, Oregon, and I still have, like, residents there. And so I'll go up there every now and again. And Bend is a place that I freaking love because it's kind of like a little like Hawaiian Eskimo type culture. It's a small town. People really care about supporting local. They really care about like doing right by each other. Like you could literally in Bend, Oregon, you could walk up to. somebody randomly on the street and be like, hey bro, I'm having a rough time. I lost my wallet. Could I bar her 20 bucks? I bet you 35% of the people you'd walk up to. But like, of course, keep it, no problem. And it's like that type of place because like I know that I'll see you again at some point. And like you are me in a way. When you get into a big metropolitan city, people start talking faster, people start walking faster, people start bumping into each other. It's like,

I don't have time to apologize. And they're going to see that person again. Screw him. Yeah. What that ends up doing is it reflects back on yourself, I think, as well, and probably, you know, would make you feel a little bit more like alone in the world. That's a little bit of, like, presumption and projection. But I would think being in a place where you feel like the safety of the whole entire community in town where it's like you have the time and space, if I say hello to somebody, I actually want to connect with you, I want to like feel you and then we'll get into whatever we're doing

compared to like, I want to check you for weapons. And that will move on. Come on, that's true. Well, these days, too, I feel like I have to ask, like, are you a hugger? You know, I'm like, give. That's what I do. I say, are you a hugger? Yeah.

And then I say, are you a lung hugger? No, you don't. With the eyebrow race, I have Botox. I don't think you're doing. I don't know. You know, you're a good looking tall dude. I'm sure that works out for you many times. I receive that.

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perpetuate disadvantageous posture yeah you know so if what your intention is to allow your body to circulate all of the vital fluids and open up the nervous system to be able to conduct itself and send signals efficiently and to allow yourself to be in a place of balance and and allow your central nervous system, i.e. your spine, to be able to, again, some like nervous system, be able to convey that information from the guts and the rest of the body and the skin, all that stuff with the brain and vice versa.

You'd really want to clear those channels and open up space. And the way you would do that would be by creating balance or neutrality. And so if the neck is chronically in that, like, jutting forward position, you're crimping off. This is like, it's like a main super highway. It's the confluence of all of, you know, it's your brain, trying to reach down and send and

receive information, 80% of the information from your vagus nerve, which innervates all of the organs for the most part, is actually coming from the organs to the brain. So you're receiving a tremendous amount of information from the body to the brain. You're not just brain-based. You're very body-based. Every person is a thinking body. They're a thinking-feeling body, like a sentient body. You need to innervate and aliven the body in order to support the function of the brain.

Dance, there was research done from Albert Einstein Medical College, that they were measuring which type of activity would be the most effective for staving off cognitive decline. And they found by far dance to music with a partner is the best thing a person can possibly do to stave off cognitive decline. Well, Latinos get it, huh? Yeah, they get it. I liked the dance move because one time I saw you do some crazy shit on Instagram, which was you, a stripper pull, dance. dance moves. Oh, did you see that? I don't know where that was. You don't? That was a while ago. Is that, is that part of the dance?

A big stripper guy, yeah. Really? Yeah, it was actually a burlesque dancer. What? Like, for an audience? Yeah. Okay, tell me about that. I performed in Portland. Tell me about that.

It wasn't professional. I think I maybe, I think I earned $40. You killed it. Number one burlesque in the country. But I invest in Bitcoin. So now you're rich and moving to Miami. It's all tracks. Interesting. So why the stripper pole or is that just something you think is fun because you're strong so you can like lift yourself up? No, strip poles are awesome. Any form of dances is amazing. Dance is one of the best ways to circulate in an abstract way. So what happens is people end up, and you're also connecting your body to rhythm, which is a whole other element of cognitive connection. So if you're just going to the gym and you're like struggling through bicep curls and tricep extensions, it's great.

Like, metabolically, you're having a fact and you're releasing more BDNF. It's like the miracle growth for the brain and neurons and all that stuff. And, you know, you're circulating blood and, you know, you're releasing endorphins and, like, all this, like, feel good stuff. But it's still kind of, like, dumb. You know, so you're just pumping the system. You know, so it's kind of like sometimes if I don't have time with the dog, I'll just take her for a run on my bike and we'll just run for a while until she gets tired. That's one version of exercise and movement to get out the stuff within the dog.

Then there's another version where she can actually go out and she's like in a field and she's chasing swirls and she's abounding over limbs and logs and all that stuff. Or we're like training her. And that's turning on all of these other gears within herself. Dance is one of those amazing things where it's like this shotgun. It's like this perfect electrical storm of all the information that your body needs to grow and thrive. So Zumba. All of it. Any form of dance I think is fantastic. If I had one movement modality, practice, or whatever that I could do for the rest of my life, it would be having access to all the forms of dance and probably like calisthenics.

Interesting. Resistance training really important for bone density, but if you're doing dance, you know, I would cheat and say, well, I can pick people up. But you're pretty buff. Is the way that you get strong dance, or do you have to lift heavy weights? No, I do all the things. All of them. Okay. Yeah. Now, what about, we were talking about posture, but where I wanted to really get to is. your work setup. Oh, yeah. The way that, you know, in your mind, a perfect desk work set up, what does it actually look like?

There's a company, technically, I think I might be an owner, a part owner of them, which you like, but it's a very small percentage, so it wouldn't affect me at all. Okay, we need to work on your distributions. Yes. Like, technically I might.

We did a thing, but I think it was a pretty, I don't think it was like a major thing. We're really in conversation with him. But the company, I'm not saying this because of that, but the company's called appeal design, is the name? I have one in my house.

And it's a sit-rise desk, so it goes all the way to the ground and all the way up to standing. So that's really great. So the solution of like the standing desk is still a pretty sedentary position, and you're still like pulling all of your fluids and lymph and all the different things down to your lower body. So if you could sit on the ground, which I know is like absolutely insane for some people, except for like every healthy country across the planet forever. So the places in the world that spend. time on the ground with regularity where it's just normal.

They have minimal to no incidence of osteoarthritis in the hips and the knees, pelvic floor dysfunction is like, you know, not so much a thing. Fall risk is the number one leading reason for elderly needing assisted living. And if you are getting up and down off the ground with regularity, like evolution or God or whatever your belief system designed you to do, none of that is a thing. Like we're just failing our bodies. We're just like forgetting about our bodies. And it's so easy to go back to some of those like quote unquote, like, ants.

It's not ancestral. It's just like being a human. And so it's, I think it's weird when the idea of a person being able to like get up and down off of the ground is like a thing. That just to me indicates how far off we are and how like far gone. It's like, holy, we really need to turn this thing around because that's like that's not okay. And so within that when you're on the ground, like digestion is better. There's more blood. It's closer to your heart. It's easier for circulation. So something that I would recommend would be setting up your workstation. one, if it is a standing desk, then get yourself some different tools so you can change your hip positions. So get yourself like you can be literally anything, a ball, a rock, you know, something like anything to a stool. So you can take your sacrum and your lower back in and out of extension. So you can raise a leg up, put yourself in a flexion on that side. Just kind of like oscillate and like pumping the sacrum is very important and also pumping the knees and ankles. If you can get all the way down on the ground, I'd recommend, and I won't go too long in this because it probably gets.

boring at some point but I would recommend raising your hips up above the height of the knees get yourself like a big floor cushion of some sort meditation version whatever thing is stack some pillows up make sure your hips are up above the height of your knees so if you put a ball on your thigh it would roll down toward the knee if you're doing that that's gonna set the pelvic floor and the lumbar spine up for stability you can like stack on itself you want a subtle tilt anteriorly so you be on the front of the bones on the bottom of your butt it's called the ischial tuberosities so you want to be able to sit boom

like plug those bones, bam, into the ground. Think of it almost like a socket, like a male end going into the female end of a socket. Those bones are kind of like the two prongs, and the socket is kind of like the ground. And so if I go and I fold my male end of that, I go in and I'm kind of like, oh, I can't get conductivity in there. There's all sorts of like Eastern esoteric stuff

that suggests that it's like connects your energy and all that stuff through your body, which is true. It just, I don't think it's so valuable to talk about it in certain rooms. So it's easier to talk about like the structural stuff. So, but what that's doing is it's balancing your lumbar spine and your lower back. So you can actually hold weight through your shoulders. So ideally you're practicing a position through a good chunk of the day that if someone put their hands down your shoulders or you put like a 50 pound weight on your shoulders,

you'd be like, no problem. If you're doing that, it's such a massive hack. because now you are, you're starting to turn your, like, fitness into just who you are. Right? So the way that you think about business, you walk into a tea shop or you have your, you know, I read your book. So if you have your house cleaner come to your house, you, just who you are is business. Like who you are is an owner.

You've identified with that. It's become a part of who you are, which is why it's, like, intoxicating to be around you in some ways. Because you're like, oh, my God, like, that energy, like people want that. That's why you're so successful. Yeah. And so what I do or what I'm attempting to do with, you know, anybody that comes in contact really is like starting to reshape our perception really very similar to the way you are of fitness not being a thing that we do, but it's just who you are all the time. So when your house cleaner comes, just who you are as a person, you're like, how can I optimize this? How can we get, you know, involved? Is there some way that we can expand this and like we can be like a mutual win for us? It's just how you see the world. You are like that too. I remember when we worked out one I start getting better posture because I see you over here So I'm like oh shit I got to sit up straight too

But sitting up straight can be a problem Oh no because you can add tension in the body I guess that probably makes sense Yeah you need like we need to we need to make a roadmap which is why I you know Wrote the book do the programs do all the different things so that a person can re-align Reorient their body in such a way that they actually relax into alignment. They relax into success. You're not trying to be successful. You are successful. Interesting. A couple of the things that you do that I thought was interesting. It's not just

the floor and the movement with your work set up, but you also have some thoughts on inside versus outside. You have some thoughts on like other things that you structure a day that is like healthy for Aaron. Can you talk about some of those? Yeah. Yeah. I mean sunlight is like the it's like the energy currency for your body. It's what stimulates your mind. mitochondria and stimulates ATP and it's helpful for skin health and it's helpful for libido and it's helpful for mood and it's like it's like you're pouring you're like plugging the gas pump into your car by just exposing yourself to the frequencies of the sun There's nothing new agey or spiritual about it at all. It's just science. It's just the way that it is and Even when you're eating food much of what you're getting from the food is you're getting the energy from the Sun in the form of something that you can chew on but what the hell is an apple doing all day long for however long it takes for an apple to become an apple.

Like it's just absorbing through photosynthesis the energy from the sun to turn into this red thing that you consume that you're pretty much just eating sun. Like what? Sun and water is what you're eating. And, you know, the nutrients from the soil. But what causes that apple to grow without the sun, it's not going to do anything. So thinking of the sun is actually, a tangible objective, like nutrient that you're consuming, I think is a really valuable reframe. One of the biggest issues in the world, while sun against the eyes is really important as well.

But allowing your eyes to be able to relax and take in the panorama is incredibly important as well. You've heard, I know you're a fan of Huberman, he's a sweet dude. He's one of the things that I learned from him that is just, you know, the reality, is that your eyes are neurological tissue. You know, they're a continuation of your brain. I was just your whole entire body is a continuation of the brain. There's no separation. That's all story.

But your eyes, when they are going into a panoramic view, i.e. they're taken in the whole room. You're kind of like just spacing out. That is sending a signal to your autonomic nervous system that it's safe to be calm. So you'll probably notice if your eyes relax, you look up into the clouds, you look up into the trees, you're just taking a brisk walk, you know, and you're just kind of taking it all in. You will probably notice you'll calm down.

You'll probably notice exhalations get a little bit longer. You'll probably notice maybe your pacing or language slows down a little bit. You're just kind of like, when you're up close and you're looking into a screen, and then you look five feet out to a wall, and then you look eight feet out to a wall, and then you look back to a screen, and then you're getting non-native artificial frequencies from these lights all day long, which is a very small bandwidth of the actual frequency of light that you'd be getting from the sun. Even though it feels bright in here, the actual lumens, it's the measurement of light,

that's being produced by these guys, is like a minuscule fraction of what you would get. even on a cloudy day in the sun. So the amount of energy that you're getting by just being outside is immense. And then also you're allowing the fitness of your visual muscles to be able to go through a full range of motion, which in a way is almost like an exercise or a workout for your nervous system.

So if you can oscillate in and out of myopic focused vision into panoramic, that is much like what you would do every time you inhale and exhale. When you inhale, it's more sympathetic. You're hyped up a little bit. When you exhale, ah, your pair of sympathy. We go through these oscillations all day long. When you get stuck in myopia, you're stuck in contraction,

muscles in your eyes, cellular muscles, among other things. They contract in order to refract that light. It's actually, you're actually contracting muscles in your eyes in order to be able to look at things up close. You're actually relaxing muscles in your eyes in order to be able to take in the whole view. So it's actually muscular contraction. It's like engagement to just be in a, a, a, a, uh, a, uh,

inside of a room. Fascinating. You know, one of the other things that I didn't realize was that I was looking up studies on how many Americans have chronic knee pain. 40 million Americans have chronic knee pain. My husband actually used one of your programs to help with his knees and the pain that he has there. My dad has like, I don't know, I think he's had like two knee replacements, maybe even gone

in for a third one for something that went wrong. Talk to us about, first of all, why are Americans? knees so fucked up and then how would one even start to think about going and fixing that and I know you have programs that help people with that too one of the big one of the big things and so ben Patrick who'd be great for you to talk to him at some point because he's you know he's amazing in the realm of business he re-popularized thankfully it's not he wasn't the first one but brought it into more like common you know popular conversation of the value of getting your knees over your toes you know so that came from some pretty not great as I

I'm going to say like bunk research, but not great research. It's accurate. And the suggestion is when you put your knees over because you're putting more stress on the knees, but stress on the body is what causes, you know, hormesis and causes like the body to, respond and get stronger. And so that would be something that would be of value as a person not having fear of taking the knees through a broader range of motion, kind of like the sun. If you're afraid of the sun, you'll probably get sick.

If you're afraid of any aspect of yourself, like if you're afraid of yourself, it's getting a little bit, you know, maybe a little bit too esoteric. But to be afraid of those different ranges of motion will end up atrophying those ranges of motion. And so that would be something that would be a really major thing, like just squatting down on the ground, you're taking your body through a more fuller range of motion. So if you could spend some time in a deep squat, you were going to be compressing all those connective tissues and kind of like realigning the connective tissues just by the passive process of going through a squat. If you're going through a lunge, if you're spending some time, floor sitting, you're crossing your legs.

it's kind of like two pigeon poses on both of your legs. So you're getting extra-rent rotation on each side. You could go through a 90-90 position. Now you're going to meteor rotation to one of the sides, an external rotation on the other side, switch on the other side. You're just taking all of that connective tissue through a broad range of motion so it can stay hydrated and stay healthy and stay responsive. When the system starts to become disengaged just from lack of movement,

that's when the system becomes dangerous. When the system's dangerous, it would rightfully so, will probably start sending a signal of pain to say, like, don't do this. Like, I don't trust you anymore. So that would be something that would be supportive, would just be taking the knees, like, don't be afraid to take the knees through a broader range of motion. And then the other thing, you know, the knees could be just like the whipping boy between the hips and the feet.

So the feet are so brilliantly complex, you know, and so they have, what is it, it's like 33 joints, 26 bones, I believe. there's like 7,000 plus nerve endings in each foot. Like they're so complex, you know, and so they just want to feel and sense the world because they're sending information to the rest of your body of what the heck's happening, like since the beginning of ever.

Until now we are in shoes, which I don't like your shoes, by the way. I don't like my shoes either. I love your shoes for you sitting on that chair. Yeah, exactly. I love them. That's really only what women's shoes are for. I at least don't wear stilettos.

That's fine. I love your shoes for 45 minutes at a dinner thing. Yeah. I love your shoes for walking from point A to point B to get a photo, and then you take them off, you know, and you hang out and you get a little foot massage. I should have had, I'm usually barefoot in hair. I should have known for you. I love all of the, I love all of, like, there's no style that I don't like in a temporary state.

But if it becomes chronic, that's when you really are probably shooting yourself in the foot. And let me give it to you. Let me go to you. Okay. It's good. It was good. And then you're going to be whacking all these moles, doing all this crap, when like the foundation of where your whole entire body rests upon is being compromised. Yeah.

You know, so that would be if a person experiencing knee pain and I was treating them, the first thing I would do would be work with their feet. like bar none hands down. And then from there we go through like, and then I'd work with their hips and see what's the alignment of their hips. And then from there we go through movement pattering. So do you think we should be barefoot more often? Yes.

Yeah, like duh. Like how much? How often? As much as you can do. I'm getting so mad. I like it. I see some viral moments right here. Yes. No shoe club.

Yeah, no shoe. Yeah. Just, you know, whatever, baby steps. Yep. You got two. You got two. Wait, so are you, you go on an airplane. Yeah.

Do you take your shoes off on the airplane? Yeah. Oh, man, you don't stick it in between. My shoes are off so much, my feet don't smell bad. I think this sounds like mad math. This sounds like boy math right back. I'm mansplaining footstink. But I guess that's probably true.

They're not going to strain. It's true. Yeah. I want to get my shoe off because I don't want to to smell bad. Interesting. Wait, I want to play a game. Okay. The game is, do you think you can tell if a guy is an alpha or a beta by their body language? Yeah. Okay. And let's do it with some celebrities. How about this game? Sure. Okay, ready? I'd have to see him because I'm not good with pop culture. Oh, you think I don't have a photo of you? Yeah. All right, cool, cool. Okay. How about Harry, Prince Harry,

Megan Markle? Oh my beta. Yeah. Yeah, the girl's super alpha in this photo. Super alpha. Yeah, he's like, She's like her like poodle. Yeah. Like, just protect me. It kind of looks like that. Okay, what about Will Smith, Jada Pinkett Smith? Do you see that down at the bottom?

Alpha, but trying. Yeah, so there's like, there's insecurity. I mean, I don't want to say because I have friends. Just a photo. Yeah, whatever. But I would, and Will seems like a great person. And I've heard from, you know, whatever. So it feels weird, you know.

But what I see and could be my projection and probably come from my own insecurities, I see like a trying. Yeah. What about Travis Kelsey, Taylor Swift there? Fucking beta. So alpha, what we do, and I'm saying this, again, this is more projection because this is, this is like my life path. A person that is pronounced, like chest out, all that stuff, beta. So that's a person that's trying to be alpha and they feel insecure and they're trying to project out, I can hurt you.

You know, I'm confident, a person that's truly confident. Like there's a fight between, I don't know if you follow UFC, but there's like an iconic, it's like the shortest fight in the history of the UFC between Mazvedal and Ben Ascran. Flapping gums at each other. Any chance they get. The fight clock is brought to you by Modell. If you look at Masbidol's posture before that, there was no like, you know,

Connor McGregor, like Machismo, you know, any of that stuff. It was he's sitting back on the cage, hands behind his back, ribs down, shoulders kind of relaxed. He's actually like well stacked in his body. He's not crunching over like tech neck. He's just stacked and aligned but relaxed in his body. Bell rings, three steps, flying knee into the face and the fight's over. That's alpha shit. And so that would be how I would describe like the epitome of alpha posture.

Yeah, you know what's interesting, just given how, you know, Chris's background, and like on Sunday we were with a group of, you know, very, as Chris would say, very violent, dangerous men. And what's interesting is... They're the nicest. They're the nicest. Yeah. They're the quietest. Yeah, they don't have anything to prove. They're the calmest.

And often, if I wasn't sort of familiar with what to look for because I've been with Chris for so long now, I would have never known. Yeah, that's alpha. And that... Alpha is in a triangle. Yeah, it doesn't. But, you know, there were a few moments. Like I remember talking to one of the generals. And, you know, and I was asking some intense questions about the army and what's happening here and how do we think about this and why should we have trust in these instances. And he was incredibly kind and calm in a way that I wouldn't have imagined. But I could tell, like, I don't even know what the body movement was. But I could tell there was like, there was a movement where he was like, I don't like that question. But proceeded to like very kindly ask. But it was a that moment too I was like oh don't forget this motherfucker's tough you know he's he's been through it and even though he's being very kind and nice there are like little moments where you can see through you're like oh thankfully society is the way that it is

yeah and that's why you can't it's really hard to like fake stability and safety in a relationship and that's why oftentimes relationship I know I'm like going to like a tangent but I think that a lot of this stuff comes to the surface with like polarity dynamics in a relationship and it's very hard for a person to like try to be more safe or try to be more stable or try to be more like trustworthy or try like whatever those things because it's it's actually an intrinsic nervous system thing it's like so much deeper for you to have that depth of calmness and ease that like quiet strength that just comes from you doing hard shit and you knowing who the

fuck you are yeah and if you don't because you just it's not a bad thing it's not like you are forever beta or beta is even you know beta is really important to have in society there's no like you know right wrong bad good without beta there's no alpha you know so it's like even beta is like it's great like play beta every now and again that would be the ideal situation is and that's just the reality of most things most people are not permanently alpha they're alpha for a while and then they're beta for a little bit and they're alpha for a while that would be like a good teammate so if I'm alpha but now suddenly I'm with my football coach and I shouldn't be like alpha machismo guy it's

actually oh no like he's the leader and then we break off from the coach and I go out now I'm the leader. So that would be good. I would presume like any team dynamic to be able to have that It's the same thing like the fluctuation of being able to to move through body language and it's how you create rapport and respect Right because of beta and in some instances might just mean number two. It might just could be an incredibly strong warrior type human but just in the second position Yeah, and he's and a person could be so strong that they're comfortable and confident in the number two or number three or whatever position because what I care about is the team I'm not living this solipistic life where it's just about me and I have no awareness or consideration of those

around me that's how you lose and so right now what is the team need oh the team needs somebody to be funny rooms too heavy you know like I'm gonna start cracking jokes I'm like typically like I could kill people I can get shit done everybody's in this tense place like I'm gonna be the jester there's no gesture here okay there's just a bunch of gestures here we need to get our shit together All right, I'm going to be the leader. I'm going to be the alpha. I'm going to be ahead of the spear.

Yeah, and because you're a big guy, I've found often you do use jokes to, like, lighten the load. You think because I'm a big guy I do that? I don't know, maybe. I think because you could be perceived as, like, serious or, like, strong. Or if you came in and my team, you know, if you just walked in and were like, hi, I'm Aaron. Hello, everybody. Yes, I'm ready to go. You walked in with a fucking 45-pound kettle bill.

And if you weren't making jokes, that would be weird. You know, and a shmedium. Sure. So like, you're just fresh out of the dryer. I'm sure you are also very playful, but I think that probably helps, right? Chris is the same way. He's very, he laughs a lot and he's always the funny one. Oh yeah, it's like the anti-Nopoldian complex.

It's like let's lighten up a little bit. Right. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I want to talk a little bit about, I want to talk about sleep. Okay. You know, I think people today, obviously we're having a hard time sleeping. That's really common. It happens a lot to women, especially I keep hearing as we get older, it happens to women.

After we have kids, a lot of my friends that are women that have kids that are fit, they're healthy in all the ways that you might perceive externally if you're normal. But they want that like sleeping beauty, blacked out, can't hear anything deep kind of sleep. And it's escaping them. Like what do you do to sleep well? Well, again, I'm not the sleep guy. But I talk to a lot of sleep guys and, you know, I'm very interested myself. and I've done a decent amount of research on it, and I sleep okay.

Not always, though. I mean, sleep for me, the biggest thing that modulates my street is how safe I feel in my life and how much certainty I have. When I feel like I have certainty in my life, I sleep like a baby. When things get lifted off the ground, I'm like, oh my God, what are you going to do? You know, or I'm worried about a relationship thing. Relationships are probably the main thing that causes me to mess up my sleep. Like intimate relationships?

Yeah. Yeah. If there's like, that's something which probably like illuminates some kind of like emotion. co-dependency type thing that I have where it's like my co-regulation with the person that I'm with if we're like off yeah I kind of go into this place of like this must be fixed you know and if it's not fixed I'm like oh you can't sleep and that's what gets you that's one of the things that'll get me that's very vulnerable yeah but so I think all of the stuff aside like we do so much I think it's just like minutia you know of like our hacks and it's just a bunch of nerds you know just like watching too many TikTok videos and you know I read in too many Ryan Johnson headlines of articles. It's so dumb. It's so dumb. Like if you feel safe, if you feel loved,

if you have like joie de vivre, you're looking forward to your day tomorrow, you had a great day where you feel gratified and you feel like you exhausted yourself in the best possible way, you probably sleep really good. Yep. You know? Yeah. And you don't need 47 pounds of magnesium. Yeah, followed by a balance on top of it. So that's the foundation that I don't think enough people are talking about because, I don't know, there's not a lot to sell in that for one thing.

And you don't sound that smart. You sound wise, but you don't sound that smart. And so, like, I think there's like an energy towards like, I want to sound smart. You know, and so with, I think there's probably a lot of that where we hear a lot of these information. And we're also, it's not just I want to sound smart. We're looking for simple solutions, but we don't want to do the work. Well, you actually have a line that I loved, which,

was that you said avoid modifying your neural chemistry from the inside with medication, rather alter your environment from the outside to produce the results you want. Oh, it's cool. Did you like that quote? That's nice. It's a little too pedantic. Okay, well, what do you mean by that? What would you mean today by it?

It's accurate. So it would be like cellular biology. I did a podcast with a guy called Bruce Lipton. He wrote the biology of belief. He like popularized epigenetics. And in our podcast conversation, people could even listen to it, one of the things I remember him mentioning to me, he also mentions in his book, is if you want to change a cell in a petri dish, you don't do anything to the cell, you change the culture that it resides within. That's a big deal. So we're trying to do all of these different things to change our cells.

Meanwhile, we're in a quote unquote like, you know, toxic or, you know, maladaptive is probably a better, better word, maladaptive environment. And we can take all the supplements we want. We can wear all the blue blocking glasses what we want. We can do all the different grounding mats and, you know, cool our bed and all that stuff. Well, actually, no. Actually, you kind of describe myself. Some of those would be examples of changing the environment. So I do align with, like, changing the light, for an example.

So that would be an example of the petri dish that you exist in, you are existing in the culture of the light that you're being exposed to. So that light refer to Huberman or somebody else other than me to go much deeper into that stuff. But something is interesting. The frequencies of these lights, they're plugged into an alternating current system instead of a direct current like the sun. And so these are actually, it looks like they're just on, but they're actually flipping like a strobe so fast you can't see that it's strobing. right so that's a little bit yeah when you look up at it what did your body do yeah it doesn't like it uh-uh you don't want that when you're going to bed yeah yeah that's pretty simple yeah that's true pretty simple yeah yeah so you want ideally turn all that off and go back to like it's like things are

so like moronically simple it's like go back to what nature would do and introduce nature into your life If it's nighttime and it was pre-Edison or Tesla or whatever that race was like, and the light bulb didn't manifest in 18, whenever that was. What was the year of the light bulb? I have no idea. I don't know. No public math. Somebody will tell us to the YouTube's comments and tell us how dumb we are.

So it was like 120-some years ago, 40 years ago, I don't know. It might be like weight off. I'm pretty sure our parents had electricity. Around that. Around that. Yeah. So, but before that, when the sun goes down, you get no blue light. It's done forever.

And now suddenly, everybody's getting sick. Everybody's getting fat. Everybody's getting anxious. And it's like progressively, it's like this hockey stick into illness. Meanwhile, we have access to all of the health stuff we could possibly have. But it's all minutia. Because you're not accessing the wisdom of nature, which you sound like a heretic,

like a crazy person to say some crazy shit. Like nature is really soothing and healing for the body. You're like, sell me a supplement, baby. Just go outside. And when you're inside, do inside more like you would have done in nature like when people were healthy. You're right, you can't sell anybody with that. Okay, I wanna end with two things here.

which is one you I want to do I want to talk about this for a second so this is your company and you showed me how to use a bunch of this stuff before but you travel all over the place you don't have a ton of things that you have to have if you were going to travel without a ton of things what would you have is this some of the stuff you would have yeah I bring resistance beans everywhere I go yeah that's an authentic thing yeah so this is the this is the strength kit, so call it strength kit because it just has a bunch of bands. You can do a bunch of different things with it. And with this, what's nice about it, it has a door anchor. So you can attach the bands to the door anchor very simply. And then you would plug the door or plug the anchor up to the door. And then one of

things I really love to do with it is just for- Oh, God, I haven't used that this way before. This is smart. It's super smart, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll use it mainly for joint mobilizations, less than exercise stuff. I do, I do the other ones for like, you know, assisted pull-ups and dips and different types of training like that. But the main thing, I'm very lazy. And so the main thing that I use the aligned band system for is for mobilizations and also breathing. So something you could do, tie the door anchor up to the top of the door, put the band in there, and then wrap it around your hips, and then just like walk away from the door, stretch yourself out, open up, go into like a little down dog, open things up.

Use it as a feedback mechanism. It's kind of like bodywork. So press the band up against different parts in your body where you might feel tension. Use your breath to connect with that band. Stretch yourself open. Go through just different mobilizations to create some hydration in those parts of your body. Do it around the shoulder. If your shoulders are chronic, like,

Mealotor, rotated, protracted, all that stuff that's not pretty. You're not gonna have sex a lot like Brian Johnson says. Use the band to pull that shoulder back and then you can start to stretch open the neck. You could go through different ranges of motion. You can do PNF stretching and you could do contract relax. You can do all these different techniques. which whatever, but just the band stretching yourself out and just going through whatever it feels intuitively good, just if you just do that after you get off a plane in a hotel room

and anything like that, it's going to be very, very helpful. You're opening up your lymphatic system. You're like getting your posture into a more stacked place. You'd be a little bit more confident. There's all like the Amy Cuddy research, you know about Amy Cuddy, Harvard stuff. Superwoman pose. Right, the power poses. Power poses. Right, I remember that. I was standing on the desk and the hands at the hips. It actually, it does work for sure. It does work, yeah.

So you can use resistance bands. My favorite thing to use resistance bands for by far is mobilization. And so mobilization is something where we're just generally compressed in our bodies. So throw the door anchor up into the door, put a band in there, and just decompress all of your joints. Put in your elbow, putting your wrist, step away from it, decompress the whole, that whole chain from the hand, up into the bicep, up and for the pecks. It's very good. Do it in your ankles. So many people have limited dorsi flexion their ankles. Throw the band down low. Put the band around your ankle. Step away. Put yourself into like a little lunge, runner stretch, and just start to go through a little bit of range of motion

with the ankle while you're tractioning and opening up some space with the band. It's so brilliant and easy and effective. It's just like, it's very important that people do do things like that. You know what's wild too is I never realize how many of the most jacked guys I know all are super into stretching. There's like just a jacked man stretch club. My husband's a part of it too. But like every night just stretching like a motherfucker that guy. That's yeah, that's a person who is just healthy. They're just normal. The rest of them. Weird. 70% of people are over 70%? 75% overweight. 40% of people are obese. How sad is that? It's more iraic. You're so weird to be like have any monochum of health in your day-to-day life it's so strange like it's crazy and yet uh we are we have

more gyms than ever yeah it's not the things it's not the things yeah i remember we were living in dc and uh there was a there were these signs all over the city that went up one day and it was like healthiest the health the fittest city in america chris and i looked around because we moved from san diego we're like i'm no scientist the fuck this is this place people do not look fit at all so I was just like well I want to see what's this study look like yeah go and look at the study and it is a number of gyms per capita that's how they're measuring fitness oh yeah so they're like super fit for like January yeah exactly or they just have not very many people in the actual DC metro area during the day

I'm sorry during the night and then like two million people it has the highest fluctuation of any city in the country so like two million people come coming from all the other places to the center of capital and the center of power in the U.S. and then they leave. So there's a lot of gyms there because some people might go around, they fuck around during the day there, but it's not actually like the population of DC itself uses the gyms with consistency. Yeah, right. And so, yeah, you know, I think studies are always something to look carefully at. I want to end with one random question I'm super curious about from people lately. You're going to ask me about butthole setting, aren't you?

Oh fuck, I forgot about that. I forgot about that. Also, yeah. Yes, I am. Paraniam summing, which is an Austonian thing. Yeah, you told me you do that. You do that? No. Do you want to talk about it publicly? I would like to. I'm open to it. I've done it. Yeah. I don't see a lot of data that would suggest that it has like a significant effect. You know the first time I saw that? The balls. Do?

Sure. You should sun your balls. Thanks for filling out. I really, I don't need that on the internet, you know? The lighting cells, which produced. There's something like the most testosterone, 90-some percent of testosterone your body, are in the testicles. And sun, the infrared rays, they penetrate quite deeply. I forget how many centimeters, but it's quite deep.

That's why you get like an infrared light. It's a common thing. You know, people put infrared light on their nuts and, you know, whatever. Anywhere, it's good for college and synthesis. But yes. A few people. Oh, I've seen you do this. this on your Instagram, not actually Zee.

Oh yeah, you're right. Yeah, thank you. Sometimes I'll post clips in me naked, but you don't, I'll put like a smiley face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's, I think that's a really healthy thing to do. Interesting. It helps with fertility.

There's some loose research around it that was done with rats, specifically that suggests that it did increase testosterone levels with the rats in like a, you know, a statistically significant way. But I don't know of any research with humans. But again, a lot of things to me, I trust my intuition. Like there's so many fads of things.

Like I don't care that much what people are saying when something feels good. And so keto is popular, carnivore is popular, vegan is popular, pescatarian is popular, Mediterranean is popular, ketones, you know, like all the different things. It changes all the time. And so we're waiting for daddy

or mommy to tell us what to do with our health, like telling us how to be. And I lean towards intuitively, like I say the word intuitive, which makes me, you know, maybe to some people I like it, maybe to some people it's like, okay, stop listening to that person

because I don't care about your intuition, which I respect that as well because it's an end of one thing. But I would invite people to disregard my intuition and tap into theirs. I like that. Yeah.

I want to end with, because I'm building out my reading, What's the book you have gone back and re-read again and again the most often? The one that kind of becomes a Bible for you. Hmm. Interesting. One that I'm been reading, well, I think the one that's like that I quite love a lot would be mansearch for meaning, Victor Frankel. That's a really good one. I'm presently reading one that I've enjoyed quite a bit.

I'm spacing the author's name right now. It's called Awareness. And it's, the author's like mega super famous. He's like one of the spiritual writer guys. But that one's one that I've been enjoying quite a bit. I read a lot of like random esoteric stuff from like people that you won't know. Like Moshe Feldon Christ as a person I enjoy his writing. I read stuff from other gal.

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And so that is something that I'll go back to. to with some level of regularity and you know I'll just pick it up every every now and again just to gather little like nuggets in there but I wouldn't recommend that to people unless they want to be like really like like go go to date like nerdy in that way yeah I'll read stuff from Ida Rolf again I was this stuff I wouldn't recommend this to people honestly but these are things like if things that I'll actually go back to regularly those are kind of things I'll go back to the most I love that Aaron Alexander Align podcast everywhere the Align Method Yeah.

Where do you like people to search for you the most? Is it YouTube these days or Instagram? I mean, YouTube's of greater value. We've been putting more energy into YouTube in the last recent. So that's probably, you know, what I value in. That's where my husband found you first and started using a bunch of your stretching way back, like years ago, back when you were living in Venice, I think. Oh, I love that. Yeah, yeah.

And then, I mean, if there's one place where, so we're, I don't know when you're going to release this, but we're, we built a program specifically around breathing. So one of the big things that I find to be the most obnoxious in the realms of like all the different breathing programs and practices and all that stuff where I ever go to a yoga class or ever go to a breathwork place or whatever. People are breathing. They're going through the different techniques, but they're not actually aware. They haven't been educated on the mechanics of how to breathe. And so this is just like this gaping thing that I've seen for like any time I go to yoga place. I'm like, you guys, your guys' posture is in such a way that you're actually exacerbating the very same. state that you're coming in here to sort out.

So anytime you see somebody like meditating, for example, and they're like, that I'm like, what are you doing? What are you not doing it? And so it's the same thing with breathing and, you know, all of that. So we created a Align Method breathing program that will be coming out in January. I don't know when this goes out. I love that. Yeah.

And that'll be at AlignPodcast.com. So that'll be, so the AlignPodcast.com slash breathe will take you to the the free trial of that. Cool. So there's a weak trial with that. And then if people want to do, we created a breathing quiz that is fun. So it takes people through what's called a bolt score, and then also an exhalation test, and then a few qualitative questions to rate where a person is at in their, like, breathing scale.

And what's really interesting with breath is it is literally the bridge between your mind and your body. It's at the lowest portion of the brainstream. Medulla oblonga. It's why alligators are henri. Great records. Only millennials are going to get that one. It's the bridge, like anatomical bridge and figurative between the mind and the body. Everybody's been saying it for everybody, for everywhere, or for all time, and everywhere, and everybody.

And so it's very interesting that you can start to augment and modulate and change the way that you feel, the way that you're perceived, the way that you connect with other people, where you connect yourself, all that stuff, just through understanding the mechanics of breathing. So people take that quiz if they want as well. That's Alignpodcast.com slash quiz if they want to do the breathing archetype quiz. I love that. And then is it going to say like bad breath, bad breath, good breath? Pretty much, pretty much.

Is there like a title for like the bestest to the worstest? Breath alchemist. Breath, oh, okay. I cannot wait. And then the crappiest one is stressed survivor, which is so common. Most people are stressed survivor. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, you know what's crazy. You should actually sell this to corporations because I was reading an OSHA survey the other day, as one does.

And it was saying that 83% of OSHA-covered workers during their survey responded as stressed. And that stress led to more than an – what was it? Was it it it? I can't remember what the total dollar amount. It was either $300 million or $800 million in stress-related errors caused to business. Of course. And so even from a monetary perspective, if you have work that can lead to some sort of, you know, it didn't even have to be physical. It could be because you're really stressed, you're not able to properly, you know, finalize

a number in a spreadsheet and that could be a reason why you miss a huge forced air in something. And so stress has real monetary impact too. You could think of your consciousness like a laser beam. And if you have a bunch of static stuff happening in the form of inflammation in the form of you're thinking about this thing or that thing and the form of, you know, commiserating over something or from projecting into the future or stuck in the past, like any of that stuff or a form of pain in your back or, you know, and your breathing is perpetuating that same kind of like panic state, then your laser beam is like, it's like

fractal all over the place. You have no direction. If you can start to like quell the literal and figurative inflammation of your consciousness and your body, it's the same thing. They're integrated. You can start to quell that. Suddenly, that laser beam starts to solidify and you can get shit done. That's fascinating. Aaron Alexander, this was so good. Thank you.

Good time. Thank you. I appreciate it.