Bigfoot Society - 16 Foot Sasquatch of the Willamette Valley with Kyle McDonald

Episode Date: September 12, 2024

Join us as we venture into the enigmatic world of Bigfoot with Kyle McDonald from Southern Oregon. Kyle recounts his 20-year journey of extraordinary encounters, sharing astonishing tales of sightings, interactions, and even healing powers linked to this elusive creature. His stories extend into eerie experiences in Oakridge, with unusual bird mimicry, odd sounds, and paranormal phenomena like cloaking. Kyle presents compelling evidence through photographs and recordings, detailing his nocturnal adventures and spiritual connection with Bigfoot. This episode is a fascinating dive into the unknown, exploring the inexplicable and urging an open mind.BONUS: Kyle shares his recent experiences on Neer City Road in Rainier, Oregon.Resources: contact Kyle with this email: [e-mail] your Bigfoot encounter with me here: [e-mail] to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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you get a special members-only episode every single week on Wednesdays and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society. And now let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society, you've got the privilege of talking to Kyle MacDonald today. He's an individual that I met at the booth at Sasquatch Summerfest this last summer 24. He's an individual from Dexter, Oregon as well.

But we have been both waiting to chat on the podcast ever since I had the privilege of meeting him. So, Kyle, it's great to have you on the show today. How's it going on, man? Wow, it's going great. I'm glad to be here. Really glad that you're having me on here to talk about this. Absolutely. I mean, dude, you've had some wild.

things happen over the years. So I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to let you have at it. We might be doing conversations along the way, but for the most part, the floor is yours, my friend. Well, this whole thing started 20 years ago. I live out here I live out here in Dexter. It's all forest around here. And some of my buddies would go out and get firewood every year. And so, like, basically we were out there one day, and it felt really strange out there. And we were just like, wow, it's really quiet and really weird. And I never even thought about, like, Bigfoot, honestly, like, it was never a thing in my brain.

It was a joke that a big monster lived on the top of a mountain somewhere anyways. So then, like, we just, like went back to what we were cutting wood. And then I saw this movement up on this hill, and I looked up. And it was like this head and shoulders around this stump, and it was like trying to, like, I don't know if it was trying to rip the stump out, but it was like going back and forth really fast. And it was like, I don't know, like people talk about that swaying thing, what they do when they're agitated or whatnot. And it was doing that, but super fast. And I was like, what is that? And my friend saw another one that I didn't see, but he said he saw it, but he was looking at a different one later.

He explained me. So we saw two different ones at the same time. And it was like right there. And then I was like, man, that sent me into like, that's Bigfoot. So now I know that Bigfoot's real. And it sent me into this, like, I was obsessed. Like, I was like, like I had to know more. So we started going out every day.

And, you know, I first started this whole thing. Like, I didn't know what I was looking for or anything. Like, I just knew I was trying to find a big, giant black thing walking through the forest. And, you know, with that kind of mindset, that you're never going to find anything. So I would take, I got cameras, video cameras, and I would, like, you know, just start going out and taking pictures of just everywhere.

I could maybe think of that there was one, like, anywhere and everywhere. And I got a lot of good pictures, but I didn't, I never saw, like, anything when I was getting the pictures. I'd have to go back and look through and, you know, just, like, see them in the pictures or whatever. And as I went, as, I got, you know, more and more into it. Like, I just, I realized the better that the more I learned about them, the harder the pictures

to get of them, whereas, like, the more I learned, the less I could get on, you know, documented or whatever. And so that was kind of, it's weird. That's another, one weird thing. There's a lot of weird things. All of it's weird. But then I was like, we were going way out in the woods and stuff. And I was like, you know, just learning, like, I would just sit for long times.

We'd just be quiet and listening and, like, I don't know. It wasn't, it was really mild at first. And then I was like, okay, if they're out here, I live in, you know, this little area that, why couldn't they be, like, right here? And right down the street from my house is like these, there's a creek and these tunnels that the water can run through. They're like, I don't know, they're probably maybe like 20 feet tall. They're big enough to drive a car through.

There's five of them. And they go through a little ways. So right there is, on the top of those are the, railroad tracks. And so it's like, it's really forested right there, a great area. And it always has felt like energy was there and everything. But so what I started doing was I started going up there and, you know, just just trying it, leaving food from the food box that they had here. They'd give away like fruits and vegetables and I'd take as much as I could. And I'd hike up there and I'd leave the food in a spot. And for a while, nothing happened. And it would just like rot away. And then

then it started getting taken and I just didn't know and I mean this is quite a while ago so it's hard to remember exactly you know all the like details about things like that it's kind of a little bit of a blur the beginning of it was but then I left my camera there one day to record up this hill right by where I left the food and and on this tape you see the because I didn't believe

it then, but now I know it. Bigfoot, they can, they can disappear, they can literally just disappear, but you can still see where they're at by the movement of the bushes. And so you see from, as soon as I leave the camera there, you see one, like this movement coming down through the bushes all the way down to this bottom of the hill. I don't know, maybe like 50 meter, a little bit more from my camera. And then there's just like white flashing thing. It looks like something's turning in a circle. I don't know what it was. I still have never figured out what it was. But it like it flashes and it goes fast, then it'll go slow. And then you'll see, and it's like they did a shift switch where they like, they came down. That thing was like spinning,

blinking and then you see it like another, I don't know if it was another one of the same one, go back up and you see the bushes lifting as it goes through. And then it like happened like two or three times. But then you start seeing like this little face and the glowing eyes because their eyes glow in the daytime and as well as nighttime without any light. And then I was like blown away about that. So then I was just like started going around down there from my house. It was like maybe like a six minute walk from my house. But Dexter is a big giant square. It's like probably two and a half miles around. And so I started walking around all over the town just kind of like, you know, checking things out. Because I've lived there forever. But now that

this bigfoot thing was in my mind. It was like a whole different world to me. And I started seeing all these little signs like footprints and like there's like swirl marks where they walk through the grass. I don't know what they like they like twirl the glass or whatever. I don't know what it was, but it was strange. And then this, the stick structures, you know, like the branches broke into X's in different shapes. And I started seeing all that. And I learned that they would I learned their route. You know, they'd come from the mountain, go down across the highway to the lake, go down in that area, and then come back up through this part called Elijah Bristow

and go back up through and back to the mountain. And I caught onto that, and I was just like, I was, I was obsessed with it. And I was like every day, every night walking around, just like out in the woods, just trying to figure this thing out, like, because I wanted to know more. And I needed somebody to talk to because I thought I was going, nuts because like I was finding out all this stuff about how these things lived right like right around us like basically with us but yet no one noticed anything no one ever said anything and I'm just like so I got a hold of uh you know looked online for someone to talk to you and I couldn't really

you know everyone's just kind of like Bigfoot society or the whatever the I can't remember the name of it like the Bigfoot guys research guys and I was just like you know all that cool and everything, but I just, I don't know, I didn't really want to be like that mainstream about it. So I went, I found Lambert Valley Bigfoot Society, which is, you know, around this area. And I put a couple pictures that I'd taken of some like footprints and like tree structures and stuff. And Mike Botowitz got a hold of me. And he's like, man, you have some really good stuff. Can I come out to your spot? I said, heck yeah, man, let's go. so he came out and he had never had any bigfoot experiences but uh like uh he came out and we went up

to the spot and this i i got to say that i skipped out on like a little bit of time like a couple years since i had started doing it it went by because really didn't get much i just would go out take pictures and just like kind of leave cameras and here and there and i've got some good great pictures and audio and stuff, but, like, just the interaction with them, it was like a, we grew like this hidden, like, unfeigned bond, I guess you would call it, where I didn't really see them much, but, like, they would never show themselves purposely to me, but I could, I learned how to see them by just, like, sitting and watching and, like, watching the change of things and the way they would move. It would be, like, so slowly that it's almost like you're, you have to, like,

rub your eyes and say, man, am I really seeing this because it's like moving so slow, but it's getting bigger and bigger this black spot. So that right there is how I would like, you know, I figured out how to see them. And they also make a noise that you, uh, that sounds like a rain stick, you know, those stick full of beads that you turn upside down and it like trickles the beads down in it. It sounds a lot like that. Like they make a sound that's just like that. It's crazy. And that's how I would know that when they're around is that sound will just start up out of nowhere and I'm like oh there they are. So anyways, back to with Mike, I took him up and I had already had a few like experiences

where they would like, you know, throw things and like do knocks and break branches around me and stuff. And so I was like, you know, basically I was used to that kind of thing. And so I took him out and I was, I said, I can't promise you anything because whenever you tell somebody that you're going to take him squatching, it just, it turns out, like, when you tell them that, it just nothing happens and it makes you look like you're crazy. So I said, I can't promise you anything, but I mean, I'm going to take you and show you where I go and what, you know, I'll tell you what happens to me and we'll see what happens. So anyways, we went out and in his book,

you can, he talks about that, all this stuff too. Um, but he, like, uh, we went out and we were just like walking and then we heard this big pre branch break and uh i was like see there they are they're here that's awesome and uh he was so excited like he was like a kid in the candy store and uh and i was just loving it because i love you know sharing that with people i love seeing the like them where i was you know with that excitement and like uh just the pure like amazement on their face when they actually realized that you know it's not just a thing that we're trying to figure out It's here, and now it's a whole different game. And so we went out, we sat down, and I tried, I was like, let's go in the, let's go in

the, let's go in the, here a little bit so we can get some, get it to get closer. And he's like, I don't know, man, he was, he was pretty, like, shaking up about it. But he finally, finally got him in there. We sat down, we were talking, and then this rock came right over us and landed right in front of us. And I was like, there you go. And he was like, that right there changed his life. He was like, he went from there, and he just went crazy. We went out a couple more times and talked a bunch, and then he went kind of on his own thing and just became like his own world with it.

And I didn't just kept doing what I was doing. But my big problem is, it scares me. You know, these guys, they're scary to me. I mean, the male that I took a picture of that is around, is the little male of the family group that is around my area that I've kind of been interacting with. per se for these years is like he's like 16 feet tall. I mean he's not they're not little and I've heard other people talk about on the podcast that and it's like these things are freaking it's crazy when you see one move it like your stomach turns because it's like when they run I mean it just like it's like it's like a smear that's how fast they are my job is I drive around two different buildings and

rec sites to, you know, clean them and make sure that they're kept up. And, I mean, that takes me out into all these different, like, all over Oregon, out in the middle of nowhere places. So it's really cool to do that. But that was like the perfect job for, it's the perfect job for me because I can drive around and squash at the same time I'm working. And, yeah, so, I mean, I've got lots of different things that have happened around this area. I started walking around Dexter at night.

And, of course, I had a friend with me that was from the beginning. And he went with me and he did everything with me because, like I said, this thing scare me so bad sometimes because it's like, you know, you just get these feelings and they can, like, there's so much more to them than people would probably think if they haven't experienced it. It makes things really weird. And so my buddy would go with me all the time and, uh, uh, uh, I would go wherever I would go in Dexter, I would hear this dog barking, but it was the same dog and the same distance from me, no matter where I would go. And so, and it happened to that follow me for a long time.

And then I lived in a little trailer behind my grandma's house on two acres. And it was a, you know, a big square place. My trailer was right in the smack middle of the field. And so they was, after I would leave food there for a while and I started, you know, they started eating it, but they would take them three days to. touch it and I would leave peanut butter there and I would take like when I first started that I would leave the jar uh I would show I take a stick dip it in the peanut butter and eat some off the stick and say that that you know mm good this is you know this is good it's not bad for you and set the stick down next to the peanut butter uh jar and I put the lid back on and I'd leave and uh so I

found the jar I went back three days later and I would find the jar open or sometimes I wouldn't find the jar until later down the road like it would be like you know down they would drop it into the creek and it would float down and stuff but it had stick marks in it and it was empty and the stick was placed right back against the rock where I left it so it was like hey we're ready for more but so once I started feeding them and they started like they started eating it it was like then they would come to my house and uh you know there's a lot of you know there's quite a bit of people right in that little area. I mean, it's not like a city, but it's like, you know, there's people doing things all day in that little area. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. On this episode of plant killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt. What makes bad dirt so bad? The answer? The ingredients. But fear not true crime enthusiasts. This story has a happy ending. Miracle grow organic raised

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They wait until evening and then I had like a little like one corner of my property. It was like a little foresty area. And that's where they would come through because it went straight from the creek through my neighbor's yard into this little wooded area and then into my yard. And so they would start coming to my place at night and I could hear them like,

I'd be sitting there in my trailer and I could hear them stomp by. Sometimes they would like smack something off the side of my trailer really loud and like give me a little heart attack. And my dogs, we had three dogs and my dogs would go out there they come running out barking sometimes and then they would sit there all three of them in a little row and they'd stare at that corner all night long not making the sound it worried me a little bit

because it's like what's wrong with them like they were hypnotized they would stare all night long into that corner and uh i mean i definitely know now that bigfoot they can uh manipulate things and they can get anything to do what they want pretty much i mean it's it's it's i'm still trying to figure that one out. Like, they can use animals and manipulate them and all that kind of stuff. But it just got crazier from there. Like, I mean, so what I would do is I would record, you know, the best as I could. I didn't have night vision then, but I would, they would surround my property. There was eight of them. They would surround my property at night and just, like, watch and, like, something, you know, come through. And it depends on, like, you know, how active I was,

doing things. And so, geez, like in the morning, right before it got light, I would go out and I would start recording around the edge of my property. And as it got light, you could see them

shake bushes to each other and then they would just be gone. Like, it would start at one corner of the property and then one bush would shake and then it would do like a little sequence all the way to the other side of the property, all of them signaling each other that maybe it was time to go. And you could see that little ice shine.

There was little ones too. And then there was a big white one. And so there was one time me and my buddy went up to, like, I don't know, it was like a 10-minute walk from my house right up from the spot where I feed him on the tracks. And he couldn't see very well. But he said that if I saw anything with my camera, that he would walk to it as I recorded and I'd keep my camera on it. And so we did this walk through, this little old logging road thing that they did.

We walked down it and then we turn around at the end of it and we walk right back through. And so we walked back through and I just got, I was feeling something so hard that day when we walked back through and we got to the top of it, the back was where we started at the road. And I turn around and I see movement on my camera but I couldn't like tell what I was looking at. So I was like telling him and he's like, all right, well, keep your camera on it. I walk back down there. And he walked down the road halfway and stopped. And he's like, is this good? I'm like, yeah, sure, that works.

But I can see movement happening all over the place. And so I was just like, he came back and I was just, I was like, whatever. So we went back and I watched the video and it blew my mind because I had a whole family on that video that I did not see at that moment when I was filming it. But I saw something. I just couldn't figure out what. But as you watched a video, it mean, I mean, it's called Video 8. It's my eighth video that I did, and it was epic because this male Bigfoot that I was seeing the movement of was walking ahead of his family that he had behind him and his head was conned.

And so whenever he would come up, the cone of his head would push the bushes up just enough where he could see his nostrils in his eye. And his nostrils and his eye were as big as my friend's upper body. And this thing was massively huge. And so I was like, holy crap. And then in that video, I have a white one with a baby looking around her. tree. I have another one that's like up in this tree and he shakes the whole tree. Like just real quick, an oak tree, you know, they're hard to shake. And this whole oak tree just went one shake, one jostle of it. And it was like, wow. And so I posted that video on Facebook a long

time ago. And that's, you know, I showed Mike that video. And then he, I told his friend Darren Richardson, who's friends with Autumn Williams, which she wrote the book, Enoch. the Bigfoot story and uh so she had Darren get a hold of me to get my number she wanted to come check out my place too but she never got a hold of me something happened i'm not sure what happened but so yeah i mean that video is epic i still have that i've been like holding that video like so dear and like because that video right there it's and it's on a high eight too and that video is like wow and i've got a few more of videos that have like so much good stuff like oh my man.

I've got, and I didn't, like, a lot of it, I didn't even realize I caught, which is funny. I have a lot of questions about this, this one part, especially. Did you say Aaron Richardson? Darren. Darren. Darren, okay. Darren, yeah. So, you're saying, first off, is your footage anywhere to watch on the internet?

You said Facebook? I posted it a long time ago, and I don't, I wouldn't know how to find it there now because it's like, I, I have a different account and everything. I lost that account. Oh, man. Yeah, but I have the video. I just don't have a way to play it because my high eight camera is broke. This isn't on YouTube or anything. This is just you have a high eight camera and you have high eight tape. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Yeah, I've got 27 videos. Oh, wow. Yeah. And all those videos are just like glitch. Not all of them. Some of them are like all the one just like I'd set my camera up and just film into one area for the whole two hours it could film. But a lot of them are just places.

Like I'd film for a little bit on one place and I'd stop. And then if I see something, I would just start recording. So I've got tons of places, tons of like, oh my gosh. Yeah. Audio recordings, everything. Have you ever considered making a YouTube channel? Yeah, I did. But then I mean, I actually have, I want to make a YouTube channel.

I just wanted, I just wanted to make it something, you know, worth, you know, watching, like, interesting enough to people who watch it because so many people have Bigfoot YouTube, you know, and it's like, I know personally, like, so many Bigfoot YouTube channels, I don't even bother watching them because it's like I live that. Why am I going to watch someone else? You know what I mean? That's really, yeah, that's really interesting, yeah. I think that, and I know it's a lot of work, especially if you're on high eight, I've never tried to transfer that. before know what that entails but I think a lot of people might find that interesting especially if you're saying you have hours and hours and hours of footage on this hot yeah that has never been really seen except for a little bit on Facebook way way back

you said Mike saw it and Mike said it was interesting yeah and autumn Williams saw it too and that's what made you want to like come to my spot yeah because it's a it's a super epic video So, like, I did I show you that picture when I met with you at Benokridge of that big foot kind of walking away from me? Yeah, that was really, it was really quick. And I was really taken aback by. I was like, whoa, what, what is this about? But it was a very hot day. Yeah.

I was like, what is this? Yeah. Yeah, that's that male I was talking about. He is 16 feet. I mean, the guys, I've got him on a few different occasions. and he would come in my backyard too. I got his face. I got a shot of his face that's really good.

He looks like almost like a lion. Cross between Morrison and a lion. What did you use to take that photo? I had a Nikon. It looks like a Canon, but it's a Nikon. I had a Nikon camera that took really good pictures for a long time. And something happened. You stayed away from like camera.

Yeah, yeah. Okay, good. I took it with a cannon, but I kind of steered away a little bit from cameras as much. Like, I still try to take pictures, but I know that where I want to get with them, I just now, like recently, it started being comfortable enough to where I'll get out at night and go, you know, on walk out from my car, because for years, for years, me and my buddy would just go in the car at night and go out in the woods and just sit and listen and like you learn a lot by doing that and a lot of crazy stuff has happened to us just doing that like uh

you know you go to the same spots over and over again and like this you know like for instance i would take uh i did this little experiment where i have this spot but i would take different people like i would take my girlfriend at the time and then i would take my buddy that would he started the whole thing with me and each person that i would take had a different response from them so like let's say it when i took my ex-girlfriend, like, we'd be sitting there and a pebbles would bounce off the car. But when I would take my buddy that was started it with me, like, they would come by the car and, like, run sticks down it or, like, you know, jiggle the antenna. And it was the same reaction each time I brought that same person.

So it was like each person had their own little experience that was different. Kyle, I saw that happen in Oak Ridge in a certain area. And it's like it all depended on the intention of the. person that was there if they were how open they were to it it was it changed my life when i saw that in actual in in real life um it i know exactly what you're talking about dude it was wild yeah and there's like there's so many things that they like it it truly is that like i've taken people out there where they just like you you stop your car and you go to get out and it's like oh no no we got it let's just go we can't be here like there's just a

some people that they do not want. And there's some people that they won't make anything. You'd be like, make yourself like a fool trying to take someone out sometimes because it just will not, nothing will happen. Absolutely. And it's just, it depends really on the person's intention and what they're like, I really, it's like a dog, you know,

that Bigfoot's will tell you how a person really is or something like that almost, you know. Yeah, that's a great way to put it. What was the one thing you feel that really set you into, and I'm using your own words here, that the one thing that happened that set you off into feeling like, I feel like I'm nuts.

Oh, just like the things I would hear and like the things I would start seeing and like all these things I was figuring out like by, you know, like, right around us. Like, am I like, because someone else had to have noticed it because I'm like finding all these like tree

structures that are really obvious and like you know footprints everywhere and like these noises at night of like yelling and like just crazy sound like I don't know it's just all these things and I was like you know I I'd try to like show pictures I took to people and they'd be like they couldn't see exactly what I would see and I'd be like all right what the hell and just some people just won't let it in because I think if they once you let it in like in you know you actually you start thinking or knowing it's real, then you can't change that. It's forever. And so people are scared, and so they won't let it in so that they don't have to, you know, be scared. It does. I agree with that 100% as well. It becomes very, very interesting, very quickly. Was there a

situation where that made you start thinking that you could talk to them directly out loud? I've noticed you've, you've mentioned that a few times where you talk to them directly out loud. Oh, I do that every time. I do it because, partly because if I just listen and don't talk, I feel like I'm being almost disrespectful and like it's because I'm scared. And so when I get scared, I'll sing or I'll talk, you know, to them to make myself feel a little bit better. And to, you know, because I know, I'm pretty sure that they can understand what we say. and if you say it with your feelings as well, then, you know, they'll get it because they can tell what you're thinking.

I mean, there's no doubt about that. And I've had the mind speak thing happen to me too. At least once when I was in my trailer in that field, I was kind of like I was like dozing off and I was sitting there. I was thinking about them and I was dozing off. And as I was like right when I kind of like went in between sleep and like, you know, like that trance you get into where you kind of like autopilot, whatever. like it was I it was like a group of them standing there in my mind and I was like why are you guys here and I answered myself with my voice but it was a deeper voice and it was like we're here to watch you and I said why and they never answered me and that was the only time I ever had anything like that happened but I mean we we we used to go out me my buddy would go out every night like for years and into the woods and there's different spots all around Dexter that are would have different, like, things happen. Like, so we'd sit, we'd be sitting there in the dark listening and, you know, we'd fall asleep, like, in our seats.

And, like, a couple of times we got woke up to fingernails tapping on the window. And, like, he had his window down, because he wasn't scared per se. He was scared, but he wasn't, like, he would always, like, push it. And he would, like, he had his arm hanging out the window and stuff, and he would, like, nod out. And he said one time he woke up, and one head, like, pressed his arm with its feet. finger really hard. And he said he woke up to like his on being pushed and he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And like that was, we got out of there right after that. But like we'd be sitting there sometimes and they would like walk by and go like it was crazy. I mean, so many things like sticks hit my car

out of nowhere so hard that would like move the car. And yeah, I mean, there's just so many things. And like I started going everywhere around out here to try to, you know, just to see what I can experience. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. On this episode of plant killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt. What makes bad dirt so bad? The answer?

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That's freedom to be. Use as directed. It said everything happens for a reason, but maybe everything happens for a recess. Take noise-canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to heighten taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show.

Everything happens for a recess. And I mean, I would find giant piles of sticks out in the middle, like way out in the woods, like, you know, where people wouldn't do something like this, like, you know, pile like nine foot high piles of sticks. Like, they were cleaning up or something. And then, so here's a crazy thing is, you know, we don't have jack rabbits here in this part of Oregon.

There's just no jack rabbits. And they're like over in eastern Oregon. And there's right, right in between Dexter and Oak Ridge, there's this rest stop. And it's got this really tall, like, a vent thing that, you know, for the, you know, from the toilets. And I'd say it's probably 12 feet up. And we pulled in there one night. And I looked up and there was a jackrabbit on the top of that vent.

And I knocked, I grabbed the stick and I knocked it off of there. And I was like it had a, it looked like something, a big hand had squeezed it and carried it. And it had a big imprint on it. I have pictures of it. But it looked like something, so something had carried that. In its hand from eastern Oregon where they have jackrabbits is all I can think of. And it's like, that was crazy to me. That was a really weird situation there.

So not alive, you're saying? No, it was dead. Okay. Wow, that is super weird. And then when I started realizing that they can get in your head is we were coming up one night. So if you come up from the Highway 58, you go straight up, and then you take a right and it goes down this road call. Rogers and it's about a mile all the way, you know, the whole road. And it's a straight, straightaway. And so we were coming up one night and then, sorry, it's a straightaway and then

you take it right down at the end of it. So we were coming up from Highway 58 one night and we were about to turn onto that road. And these two flashlights came from behind this church sign that's up there. And then it like, these two flashlights came out, looked and then it jetted across the road. And it was like, what was that? Because it's this big black thing with the two flashlights, you know, which was their its eyes. And we were like, whoa. So my buddy that was driving and like sped up to try to see you if we could see it. And it was gone. Like he just, it went seriously. It was weird. That's what made my stomach feel weird. Like nothing's supposed to move like that. That was really, really weird. So we went down to my house and we were

there for 20 minutes. And then we came back up the same way. And as we turned on to that road again, and it was standing in the middle of the road up towards the top and it was just waiting for us. It knew we were coming back that way. And so when we finally turned the corner and we seen its eyes up there waiting, it like ran across the road three different times. And it never bounced once. They have this way about them where they can stay completely level. And, you know, like we walk, we have like a up and down type of movement.

They don't. They have a straight, like they stay at one level. Their head will stay so they can do like a, it's the extra hinge in their foot, I guess, you know, where we have a bridge, they have a hinge. Right. So they can, it takes away that whole bounce movement. And they walk properly. You know, if you ever find Bigfoot tracks, you know if it's real or fake by,

if the tracks are in a straight line and it's just one line, then, you know, you've got real Bigfoot tracks. If they're side by side, then it's probably someone trying to be funny. Absolutely. Before I forget, do you have, I'm just going to ask you a few things. Just maybe people can help in the, comments. Do you have like a home computer or anything you use?

I have a laptop and I just, I literally have my laptop just to put my Bigfoot stuff on. And what kind is it? It's a, right now it's a, it's one of those big gaming laptops. It's like, it's an Aces. It's a, it's a little bit older, but it's a really big boxy thing. It's like a for gaming. So it's got a lot of memory on it. Cool.

Three hard drives. So PC. Yeah. What kind of ports does it have on the side? Just one second. Let me take a look here. It's got all the standard ports that a normal laptop has. I mean, it's got all of, it's got HP mine.

It's got like USB and all that other stuff. Okay. So listeners, if you can think of a way that he can use, that to take footage from high eight tapes and put it on his computer so he could put it somewhere else put it in the comments on YouTube and maybe we can figure out a way that he can actually do this if he wants to so we'll see if we can get some help there because oh you already looked into it a little bit and I there's adapters you can buy on Amazon but they're they're like expensive and so that's why I haven't got one but it can take it and make it digital.

Okay, got you like copy it yet. So I just haven't got one of those yet, but I really want to because, I mean, I've got so much stuff that once I start doing that, then I will make a YouTube channel for sure. Absolutely. I've had so many different experiences. It's like it's hard and I'm not really good at this type of thing here. So it's like that's why I'm kind of all over the place. Oh, yeah, we're just kind of, we're just kind of chatting. Dexter is such an interesting area.

You know, I did drive from Eugene over to Oak Ridge. and right after Dexter is the point where you definitely feel like, okay, I'm getting into something else now. There's something weird going on. I'm not quite sure what's going on, but there's a weird vibe there and then it just continues all the way in. So I don't know if it's just because all of a sudden, boom, there's a lot of forest. But I agree with you. There's some weird stuff. You get some weird vibes around that area for sure.

Oh, yeah. Oak Ridge is one of those places where it's like I've went out there like my first experience I forgot to mention this my very first like ever encounter with anything like that was my grandmother used to have a house up in Oak Ridge when I was a young young and right behind it was this old logging bridge and then it went into the like forest and me and my dad would go fishing there and I remember one time we were fishing there and my dad we heard something barreling down the woods behind us. It was like a hill.

My dad grabbed me and let all the fishing stuff fall into the river. And like he booked across that bridge with me and his arms. And he's still to this, we don't know what it was, but it scared him so bad that he thought we were like, something was going to like humble us off the little ledge. And he says he thinks it was Bigfoot. My dad's all about Bigfoot. He just, he's never had any sightings because I don't know.

He's like he, I think it's, he wants it so bad. that he overlooks the things and the patience that it takes to actually do that. Some people just like, they just, you know, are too, maybe like a too eager for it, I guess, sometimes. Sure. It does take a lot of patience. Have you ever asked to see if he wants to go out with you? Oh, we do. Yeah, we just went camping a week ago.

Oh, okay. It's like towards the coast, and then you go up this road seven miles, and it's like the most active places I've been to ever. And, I mean, it's just like any of, if I was, when I take anybody who hasn't experienced it, I take them there at night because without a doubt, you're going to have experiences there. Like, I get out of the car and I get, I just sit on my hood at night and they'll break stuff all around me, throw rocks in the river, and just like, it's like completely, it's awesome. Like, it's, they do everything, but come up and sit next to me very much. this is over on the west side right this is not over by yeah it's not by dexter it's like an hour

from dexter gotcha okay interesting but yeah i mean it's just yeah and it's it's the further you the closer you get to the coast the more active it seems they get like the more uh at least visual activity they have like with their symbols and all their language stuff i don't know i think it's because it's more rugged over there and the people are less apt to just go trudging into the woods. I mean, around here, you can kind of like drive anywhere and walk anywhere in the woods. And I think that they like it where you can't really do that as much, where people aren't more, you know, as likely to do that. Now, that totally makes sense. You'd mention that you have an interesting job where you're, you're cleaning sites around different forces. Yeah.

Your friend or coworker would ever be interesting in talking, but it'd be very interesting to hear his viewpoint as well. Just kind of put that in your ear. Oh, yeah. He's got other stories too. He goes out. He cuts wood up in Oakridge. He goes way up, way up in the Oak Ridge woods. So he has got a lot of actually experiences that are trippy. Kyle, I would love to talk to him if you can pass on my information for sure. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah. That would be great. I see things in my way so much that it's, you know, it's hard to like veer and like try to think like a mind that maybe doesn't as much as I do about it.

Oh, absolutely. One that's not maybe open to it in a certain way, if you know what I mean. Yeah. Yeah, because when that world opens in your brain, then other things are with it. You know, like, like, ghosts. Like I've lost, like, my grandmother who raised me, she, like, was into, she was into it, too. Like, she would come home from work and she would tell me that there's Bigfoot out in the driveway because our beginning of our driveway was like these really tall trees that our neighbor had like a little baby forest.

And she said it would like walk along with her. And she would sometimes be kind of scared to get out of her car and stuff. And she thought ferries flying around the yard and stuff too. I mean, it's, I've got one on video too. Is this in Dexter or Oak Ridge? This is Dexter. Okay. My great grandmother had the house and Oak Ridge.

Thank you. When I was a kid, yeah. So you have fairies on video. I have one, yeah. It's flying around and it like dips down in the water. And that's at that spot I was telling you about with the tunnels. Right. That place since then they've logged it and it's like it's not that place anymore.

It's just completely everything that all, everywhere where I started right here in Dexter, like with all my like videos and all that has been logged and like it's just been changed so much. And it's not the same. And I believe they still kind of go around there, but there's just so many places. you can't go now and like everything's just changed and it's been a while since i've even been up there i've kind of like broadened out and went into like but you know like what this is what a lot of people have said in the other podcast is there i get more activity around the areas that are populated than i do way out in the middle of nowhere and so you know like it's it is it's weird

but it's like i see why because they can benefit from us you know quite a bit but nothing's ever disturbed that I've ever noticed, you know what I mean? They're really cautious about what they touch. Absolutely. Because I know people are listening from the government on this, absolutely 100%. Oh, yeah. There's tons of people listening. Absolutely.

Speaking of Oakridge, have you heard of any interesting interactions that have happened around that town to do with Bigfoot? You know, I listened to the podcast that you had of people from Oak Ridge, and I feel like I know the guy but I honestly like Oak Ridge is kind of one of those things where I've done my squatching out there a couple times and my grandpa's ashes are poured out up salmon creek. Oh wow. And yeah. So I mean going there, it's like and my grandpa, he would go out in the woods by himself

for two weeks at a time and he never would talk about Bigfoot or anything like that. And it was it was so weird to me. It was like some people can go out there and just not experience anything like that. And you know, I just don't get it. But no, his ashes are poured there out there. And there's a plaque he put on a tree when he was younger and it's still there. And we put his ashes underneath of it. But other than that, like, I don't, I kind of just, I have enough going on right around my area that I don't, like, it's, you know, it's like 30 miles from here.

So it's like if I don't have to travel as far to get any, you know, to hang out, plus I like to stick around my area and get the ones that I, you know, hang out with to be more used to me. and it's like once you it's uh i think that uh what's his name the guy from saskatch theory he said this yeah Miguel said something that kind of like was like whoa it's when they like they like they pick you and they kind of are like with you and it's like they kind of like are with you you know and places where it's like they follow you almost and uh everyone that goes in the woods with me is like wow it's like it's a different experience for them because all of a sudden you're hearing trees break and uh like i took this one this one girl who i got a hold of me and she wanted to have a big fit experience i took her up to loon lake and we it was nighttime by the time we got there

and we went up this road that i've had a couple of things you know happened and uh we got out of the car and we're walking and right up this hill from us this giant tree was like and it was like awesome and uh it was scary me a little bit because it was like it was such a big tree. I don't even understand. Like it sounded like a shotgun. And so I was like, can you guys do that again and nothing? And she's like, yeah, can you guys please break another branch?

And then as soon as she said that, one tree, two trees, three trees, four trees, as it went down a line, all these trees broke. Like, it was like, I don't know if it was the same one walking and just breaking stuff as it walked away or if it was a, a big tree. Bigfoot at each tree because it happens so fast. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. On this episode of plant killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt. What makes bad dirt so bad? The answer?

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effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OBGYN recommended brand and the only one that you can find at all major retailers in all 50 U.S. states. There's no minimum age requirement and you don't need an ID to buy it. can order it through DoorDash and other major delivery platforms too. That's freedom to be. Use as directed. They say everything happens for a reason, but I suspect everything happens for a Reese's. Like this commercial break, did you need 15 seconds away from music or 15 seconds to eat or Reese's? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a Reese's. So, Kyle, here's the weird thing. This is the

third or fourth interview in a row because I do interviews a lot. lot. This is the third or fourth one in a row where the person has talked about something or requested something and then immediately after something happens in response. It is such an interesting commonality. They know what we're they they understand this. I think they know us better than we do because they they can get in our heads. You can't lie to them. They can they can tell what you're thinking. They know what you're about like it's like basically you've got to out there with, you know, your heart open and pure or else you're not going to get anything but negative results or, you know, nothing.

So it's like, you know, you have to, that's why I talk to him a lot to try to, you know, to let them know, even though I can tell, I know that they're like, feeling what I'm thinking. I talk to them because it helps me and I know that it like, it has to like interest them, you know, to have that verbalness because sometimes when I'm driving for my job, I, drive a lot. So sometimes I'll just like when I'm out in the woods, I'll just like pull into a little spot and I'll just like take a nap. But every time I do that, I put my phone on record, audio record and I put it on top of, I reach out my sunroof, put it on the top and I close the sunroof so they can't hear me snoring or whatever when I sleep. Right. But and I, I get some weird stuff,

like some like voices and like there's this one where I put my, it was a little bit after I put my phone out there and you hear this loud tree break and then you hear like a breathing right next to my phone but i never heard it but i also fell asleep for a little bit but it's weird i mean it there's a lot of stuff that is close to us that we cannot with our naked eyes or ears we cannot hear or see but the cameras they do catch that stuff and that's what's another reason why i was taking pictures so often and you know at night time I would just snap pictures in the dark like with a flash and like the more the so I would get there and you know you'd feel okay it'd be like you know like really relaxed feeling and I'd snap a couple pictures in the dark and you start getting

hearing that rainstick sound and then then it starts the feeling you start you to get more intense like you start getting like stressed feeling like like like nervous so I'd start taking more pictures and each one of those pictures had more orbs in it until it got to be thousands and thousands of orbs and each of those orbs if you zoom in on those orbs really closely each one of them has faces like a cartoonish looking face and they have all sorts of different colors and expressions and i mean that's got to mean something but i don't i don't know what but i've heard other people say that too yeah that's that is it's very very interesting um and we're flasked You see a lot of weird flashes and lights and stuff at night, too.

I found this one place where the trees had been, like, pushed down all outwardly, and so it was this big open circle, and right in the middle of that circle was these two trees pushed inward as an X, and it was facing the sky. And so I kind of couldn't help but think that maybe that was, like, a marker for something that flies to, like, you know, because the Bigfoot and the UFO thing, they have so much correlation with each other, throughout history that I can help it think that maybe they do fly in ships as well, you know.

And my buddy that I live with here, who is my roommate and also my best friend, he goes to Alaska for half the year, every year. And he was actually on the Discovery Channel for his aliens that he was like had going on. He had this experience with these little flying like stingrays in the air. You couldn't see him with your eyes. You could see him on the surveillance camera. Yeah. Yeah. And they would fly all together and create these little beings, these little alien guys,

and then they would just dissipate and the alien would be gone. But yeah, I mean, that's his whole, like, he's got that going on, and I got this big foot thing going on. So it's like, but he's got a picture of one of the little, the little spaceships that he snapped a picture of, that he videotaped one shooting a beam down and then sucking up this big ball of whatever. but in the one of the pictures you can zoom in and you can see three different kinds of aliens in the window of it looking out yeah and one of them kind of looks like a big foot oh boy that's really cool you have that friendship though so you can compare notes because there's probably stuff that that each each one of you are seeing that the other one's not and you can kind of compare and contrast um we had talked off air about some things and um you had mentioned mentioned that there is more going on in Oakridge beside Bigfoot.

Yeah. It's weird up there. It's like it there's something that I don't know. See, I've heard lots of talk about like there's like, I don't know, it gets really deep. And like alien, like people that they've, they've captured Bigfoot's and like, you know, genetically modified them with other. extraterrestrials that the government works with i mean all that kind of stuff it seems a little bit far-fetched but really if you experience enough of things it kind of you know makes a little bit of

sense you just said like a sentence that was had a lot in it do you mind if we go back to can you provide any more detail so have you heard of bigfoot being captured and you said genetically manipulated or yeah i mean there's a guy that you can go on youtube and find his name is uh kewani last It's a hard one. Have you heard of him? I've seen his books, yeah. Yeah. And so, I mean, he's one of the ones that talks about that.

Like, actually, he's, like, pretty much the only one I've heard talk about that. But I don't know, it just, it's hard, it's hard to know, you know, that's why it's like, I try to stick with, like, this Sasquatch thing, but those things that are like that, kind of bring themselves up, like, with the things that happen because it's hard to wrap your head around being being able to do so many like extraterrestrial type of like paranormal type of things you know yeah absolutely it's this wild to me like because i mean it makes me wonder if we as humans we could if we could possibly be able to do what they could can do if we trained our minds or if we even are built to be able to do that i know we're not built like them by any means

but I mean, it's just so many, like, the more you think you learn about these guys is the less you really do. Like, it's like the more questions are opened and it gets super deep. And then I, yeah. So, and I don't want to push too hard, but I am a little bit. I knew that. So are you saying that certain individuals are saying this directly about this area? in Oakridge or? I've had everyone that I've ever talked to,

and I've even went up there a couple of times and with a couple of different people that live up there, and it's like, it's just, it's a weird feeling, and it's, like, almost got like a curse type of thing because, like, I went up there with a girl I was seeing, and she's like, if we go up to Salmon Creek, she's like, the last person I went up there with,

like, once we were up there, things were okay there, but then, like, when we got back, And then we ended up breaking up and, like, hating each other. And I was like, well, that's probably nothing to do with up there. But then we went up there and like, right. We were, yeah, we were up there. And, like, she got out of the car.

I like just, like, I like to just chill and listen in the car because, like, I'm a little scared at new places and all this. But she got out. And like, I just, like, all of a sudden, I was just like, I did not want to be there. Like, something in my mind switched. And I'm just like, I want to leave. Like, I do not want to be here. So, like, she, I was like, hey, let's go.

So she got back in the car and literally we haven't talked since. Oh, wow. Like it's just like, yeah. And we were actually hanging out pretty hard. And then all of a sudden we just haven't talked since. And it's, I mean, that's like, whoa. And I don't know why. It just, we just haven't.

And it's, I don't know. I can't help it think. Maybe that place does have some sort of like a, you know, that doesn't, things like that. Since the Bigfoot world has opened me and nothing, I don't really dismiss pretty much, like really anything unless it's just like, whoa. I mean, because everything is, you know, the world is nothing like we are taught that it is. So when you say Salmon Creek, you're saying the main road that goes up there, right? Yeah, there's lots of offshoots on that road. You're saying also the Forest Service roads?

Yeah, yeah, the Forest Service roads up there, office, Damon Creek. And like, I don't know. I can't really, I can't really put my finger on what it is about that. place that's just so, I don't know, dark. I guess that's the only way I can really put it is that it's dark. How far up? Sorry, how far up on the roads where you're going? Just right when you're like from Westford on, like when you go into Westford and you start

going up, it's just like it changes. Yeah, I got, no, I totally got you. And I'm sure a lot of things have happened up there. I mean, a lot of things and, you know, things I haven't even probably heard of, but just like weird things that are like, you know, like I was talking. talking about earlier. I just bad things. There's a lot. Yeah. There's some stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And my area, I'm comfortable with my area. And my area feels like relaxed and like there's only been a couple of times around my area where I've been like, whoa, I don't like, something's not happy right now.

Right. But I mean, other than that, it's like my area I'm comfortable with. They, they know who I am. And I, you know, I'm, I've, I've, seeing them quite a bit. Like, you know, people never believe me when I say this, but I've seen 30 of them in one day up there. Yeah, like you, not all close, but like at a distance. Like, if you go out in the woods and you sit in a spot where you know that they're like, if you think about them and then you go there, they're going to be there. And it might take them a little bit to get there. I want to unpack that a bit. So you're saying you think about it then you go there or is it you go there and then you think about it while you're there? Oh, both. I mean, if you, if you

you think about it if you like if you're like I'll get these random like man I just I want to go in the woods right now like I have to like it's almost like they're calling me they're like hey come on and then I'll go and then as soon as we get there I get out of the car and then there's that tree breaker you know there's that stomping through the woods you hear or that you know weird bark or any the growls that they do too a lot of people can't catch them but they're they're so low sometimes that they're it's almost a feeling not like audio but a feeling like a rumble in your, like your chest.

Yeah. And it's pretty intense, really. I mean, it used to scare me pretty bad, but now it's like, it's almost welcoming. Have you ever asked or stated,

why are you, why are you wanting me to come to this area right now? When you just go with it? I did when I had, I just go with it mostly. Like, I just go there and I just,

I just talk like I'm doing right now, but basically about stuff, you know, like, I'll just talk to them, like, you know, I'll tell them about stuff and like this and that. And sometimes, sometimes it's almost like they're like shut up and they'll break something really close to me. And it's like, all right, cool. So then, and a lot of times I'll just go out there and I'll just sit.

And that's how I learned a lot by just sitting and not making a sound and just like observing everything around me. And like, anytime I'm in the woods, my senses go completely heightened. and I like I don't talk much when I have someone with me especially like I go like I turn into like this more of like a like a you know like I listen and I just like look and I don't talk because when I'm with somebody because as you know but it's crazy how this works also you can be out there with someone and not talk for an hour I make a peep and you'll hear nothing and as soon as you start staying something to somebody you'll hear a tree break or something like they have that time they know when you're going to like you're going to like Like, when the right time to make a noise is to like where you can't almost say definitely that that was this or that. And it's, it's, it's there, they just have that way about them. I experienced that at Oak Ridge a few times as well. It's very strange and I don't get it why it works like that. But it, the same thing happened to us multiple times.

It's very weird. So like when, I've heard a couple of different instances where people, when people like, like, die, they can communicate back to someone that they're close with and say that they're like in so many places at once. And like, it's kind of like you're not, you're not physical. You're just like, you are everywhere and there's no everything. You can, you know everything. And I think, and it almost seems to me like that's kind of how they are in a weird way, like, I've heard of native saying that they can go where we go when we die, they can go in and out of will. I mean, that just seems, you know, big giant subconscious, like a conscious pool.

I don't know. It's something like that. I'm trying to figure it out more. And like with that, it's like opening more of these abilities that I have like with being able to heal with my hands and like being very empathic, feeling people's energy and like just knowing how to help people without them even telling me how, like, what's wrong. And just like knowing these things like that. And I think that might be part of why they, like, last on to me in a sense.

So you are able to heal with your hands, you said? Yeah. Can you provide an example of what that means? Well, like my mother, he was in a coma, a diabetic coma from like, you know, just going hard and, you know, not like taking care of herself. She was diabetic. He drank. And so basically she was on her deathbed and a coma. and I'm her only son. And so my whole family was there and they called me and they told me to come down there and I went down there

and my mom was non-responsive, like basically just living through a machine. And I put my hand on her head and I closed my eyes and I like went away into this like force thing and like where I just like I was like a warrior traveling through her body kind of thing. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. On this episode of Plant Killers, we'll explore One Nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt. What makes bad dirt so bad? The answer? The ingredients. But fear not

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You can order it through DoorDash and other major delivery platforms too. That's freedom to be. Use as directed. It said everything happens for a reason, but maybe everything happens for a recess. Take noise-canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to height and taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show.

Everything happens for a recess. It's hard to explain. It's like I turned it into a force, not like a person, but a power. Sure. And my hand got so hot that I couldn't even leave it on her head anymore, and I had to pull it off there. And when I pulled it off, she smiled. and they were able to take her off the machine and she was, she lived.

But, like, it's something like that. Yeah, and my grandmother, when she was dying of cancer, I would, she had a pancreas cancer and she had a surgery and it didn't work right and all this. And I, I would put my hands on her stomach every night. And when I started doing that, her stomach would make like these god-awful demon noises like, we're going to go. And she, I'd do that for half hour or so.

And she would say, oh, my gosh, I feel so much better. and like that I didn't do it for it got to the point where I would do it every night and I was getting exhausted from it and like

I didn't do it for two nights and then she died the third night but I mean things like that's the kind of and my grandma would always tell me

that I was a healer I just thought she was nuts but I learn now after that she's gone that you know maybe she knew a lot more she's very spiritual Native American

like okay so you do have Native American heritage Yeah Oh okay interesting Yeah and so yeah I mean and so that's kind of the way I am When I'm out in the woods is like I you know

Treat everything like in a way where it I'm like native about it You know Yeah Don't do unnecessary Don't do unnecessary damage don't like Don't do anything that you wouldn't want done to you or your property I guess You also mentioned that you have a way of sensing things about people Can you go into that as well?

Yeah, like, I don't know. It's one of those things where, like, someone, I can tell, I can just, like, read somebody, like somebody and I can see by their, you know, by their, the way they are, the way they present themselves, the way they talk or act that, you know, that they're hurting somewhere.

And, like, I can just watch them and observe for a few. And I can tell if they're, have, like, back pain or if they're, like, if they're hurting from inside somewhere because of the way they move. I don't know. It's like this weird sense that I have that kind of it's really, it's hard to like put into words. But I can like, then I like, you know, if it's not too weird, I can go up to them and like just put my hand somewhere on them like and feel their body. And I could feel where the pain where they're hurting and I could press on it.

And like they're like, whoa, how did you know that? It's like I don't really know how I knew that. Have you done that to strangers? Oh, yeah. Really? Yeah. Uh-huh. Oh, wow.

Yeah, I mean, I blow my mind a lot, like, with things that I just know, and I don't know how I know it. I mean, I don't want to, like, sound like I'm, like, bragging or anything because it's just, that's just the way it is. I don't understand it either. It's very weird how different cultures and different religions have different ways of saying that, I think, you know, like a different gift or, you know, certain religions, the Christianian would be, like, gift of the, the Holy Spirit, or if you're not that, it would be called something completely different, you know, and it's just, it's a very interesting thing that I've noticed. I do believe everybody has, like, has that. I just don't think that people tap into it or know how to or even think about having it

to be able to tap into it. It's like, it's a very, it's a, having an open mind is so important I've found to, you know, to get anywhere besides being standard, I guess. Right. No, it makes sense. Yeah. And, you know, if you don't have an open mind, I don't think you're going to experience any of this stuff.

And I've actually seen where a certain area around Oak Ridge, certain people were there, and nothing happened. And right after the person left, that's when some really weird communicating happened between a certain individual and what we think was a big foot in the tree line and it was just it was the craziest thing I've ever seen it was wild so I think it definitely has to do with

have you ever have you ever experienced that where there's like a mimic sound a mimic bird sound and any communication that goes back and forth can you can you share about that? Oh yeah I've heard yeah I've heard like weird bird calls they'll they'll mix bird calls together like they'll mix actual bird calls but they'll put them, they'll, like, do a remix of them and make them their own, like,

they'll mix, like, three or four bird calls into one call. And so they'll make, it's like its own call, but it's, it's actual birds that exist so that, you know, people can, like, hear a little bit and they're like, oh, it's just a bird because I know that call from this bird, that, but they do that. And then, like, they're, we've heard, like, argument sound, like, you know, the tones of people arguing, like, mm-hmm, you know, but you can't ever hear. hear any words. You just hear tones, humbling. It's like people have talked a lot about it. Yeah. And it's like it's, it's really weird because

it's, there's no words at like, like you can't even hear words. It's like, like they grunt with attitude at each other or like mumble at it at with attitude. And then I've heard kids like we were, me and my buddy Ryan were camping out one night in this landing that was cleared all the way around it. But each, the down below us are on all sides, except for the road side was like woods and that night it was scary because we had a fire we had his car we put a tarp around the car and then to this big like logs we had like a barrier and all night long like rocks would bounce off the tent and they hear little feet running by and like kids playing down the hill like it was like a playground and then that's where we heard the argument like tone and it was like that night

was scary like I put ear plugs in at one point and was like just like had my hands over my ears just trying to get to sleep so I can get through it and And like, my buddy would grab me and goes, dude, did you hear that? I'm like, no. So I'd take my earpoints out and I'd listen and I'd be like, man, this is, this is crazy. Like, it was, it got really scary that night. Like, they were pushing hard that night. Where did that happen?

And that was up Fall Creek. Fall Creek. That's like, right, fall Creek is right out of Lowell. If you go into Lowell and go up into the woods, it's Fall Creek, Little Fall Creek, Big Fall Creek. Yeah. I was just going to say, in his driveway, there's X's and Bigfoot symbols too. It's funny. No way.

Oh, boy. Oh, yeah. I've been sitting there with him. I've been sitting with my dad in his car, facing the woods, and we're listening to music. And right in front of us across his driveway, I seen Bigfoot's walking through the bushes. And I'm like, look, right there. And he couldn't catch it. But it was like, you know, when they walk, when they're cloaked, it's like the wind's blowing the bushes, but only in one spot.

And then that spot will travel through the woods. See, it's like the wind's blowing only in one spot. Yeah. And that's what it was. And I was like, man, right there was big foot, like, cloaked, walking right in front of us. Do you ever see anything that looks like a mirage or, like, the predator back in the eight? You know what I'm talking about? Does that, or is it just like you see bushes moving?

Well, no, I see, I've seen that, yeah. And it's like almost like a wiggle and like the air is wiggly, like kind of distorted. I've seen that. And I noticed that with this white one, that I've had. I had other people, because a lot of people get a hold of me when they have a siting out here, they'll find, they'll hunt me down and be like, hey, man, I just wanted to tell you this spot. I had a sighting, and it was crazy. And so I'll go check that spot out. And it's usually a spot I already know, and I've had my own encounters there. But I noticed that the white one, I believe there's two now because the one had a baby, so it's probably, you know, getting older now. But they can stay in there, in the open, and the whiteness of their fur just looks like a sun, like a sun spot that's bright. I mean, it's hard to explain. It's like you look right past it because it just looks like a bright spot. The sun's like shining in, but they are standing in open.

Their hair is so white that it kind of like is just like they look like light. That's interesting. Yeah, and it's like I've had one other person tell me that they were camping. They were homeless for a little while and they were camping up Fall Creek and they saw a white one all the time and it would stand up way up on this hill and it was like this white dot and it would just stare at them. for the longest time. And, yeah, you got to see that video I got, that white one. It's got a little baby in the tan. It's, like, it's amazing.

That's one of the high eight videos? Yeah. Wow, yeah, you've got to get the high eight videos. Yeah, on the high eight videos, when, does it also have footage of, like, the mirage or, like? Yes, actually, yeah. Wow. Oh, man. You've got some wild stuff there.

Another thing, another thing is when I have, some. Sometimes when I'd leave my, I'd leave that hiate camera on a tripod filming into the woods and I'd just like go do the rest of my hike and leave it and then I come back to it. The couple of times when I'd leave that camera about five minutes after I'd be gone, it would get staticy like through the, like it would get so staticy that you couldn't even see what was going on. It was almost like the camera was trying to like shut off. But then like it would just like stop out of nowhere and then a couple minutes later I would come back. And so I do believe, I have one also a video of my night vision of one staring at me. And it was partially cloaked, but I watched it for like 15 minutes with my night video. I don't think he knew I could see him or something.

But he was staring right at me. His eyes changed shape. Like they went from being like round eyes to like really like Chinese like slanted eyes. And I think. Yeah. And I think he was trying to like do something to my, the things I was looking through because the way that they changed was like he was like, like using energy or something to try to like screw with my night vision. Wow.

But he, yeah, that's a good video. It's pretty intense. It was like, I just randomly like took my night vision out, started looking up this hill and there it was standing there watching me. Have you ever heard of a place called Baboon Creek? Oh, Baboon. Yeah, that's, uh, is that here in Oregon? Yeah, it's further east, uh, on, on 58, I believe, past Oak Ridge. I was just curious.

It's just supposed to have a lot of stuff go down there. Or a place called Spirit Lake. Have you heard of that before? Spirit Lake. Yeah, I think the only Spirit Lake I know of those by Mount St. Helens. There's one over by Waldo Lake Wilderness. That's supposedly pretty weird. So keep your ears out.

If you ever hear anything about that, I would love to hear about it. Supposedly, there's weird stuff every night, all the wood that's floating in it will go to the center and make a circle and then rotate around in a circle. And there's a few encounters that I've taken from that area as well, that specific lake, where people will get ran off by Bigfoot from that area. You'd mentioned also before we started recording that you actually had just heard the Renier, Oregon episode, which is, I think, one of my most listened to episodes on YouTube, and you actually went up to Renier. Yeah, I went there yesterday. And it was, yeah, go ahead.

Oh, I just, when I got there, I went to, I, because I remember him talking about near city road. And I was like, man, in that episode, just like, he was talking about how they were so, like, just brave and how they would just, like, come out and, like, not be afraid of people. And then I got to remember that it was, like, a long time ago. But I went there, and I went to this power line road. And I stopped at the first power line road that I found, and I got out. And I was like, hey, I just came to say hi. I heard my friend told me that you guys were here. And I just wanted to say hi.

And as soon as I said that, snap, big old branch broke. I'm like, yeah. But of course, you know, I'm by myself with my little dog. So I feel limited when I by myself. It's hard for me to just, like, go very far because my mind, I watched a lot of scary movies with my dad when I was younger. so my imagination can run in some places. And that's what limits me. I haven't got as far as I want to because of that fear.

Like I get scared, like pretty bad. So I walked up the road a little ways and I could feel, like, I could see things moving on the tree line and I could feel it, like hard sticks were breaking and stuff. And I saw it. I knew that they were there. And then I hadn't only had my night vision, but it records in the daytime, too.

It's just kind of purple-looking. and I had it sitting on my dash and one of the points you can see from the tree line across the grass the grass is like three feet high you can see the grass move like something

like booked it through like on its belly or something through the grass like he was talking about they did so I thought that was pretty cool too I got that on video across the road for me there was you could hear stuff walking

and like the more I was like using my camera to like look the more it would like they don't light cameras very much, I don't think. But the more agitated, it started feeling, and then the steps should get heavier. And so I was like, all right, well, I'm going to go down the road now, and I went down to the other power line road. And this power line road is massive, and it goes for, like, as far as your eye can see.

But it says it's a controlled area, and there's a sign on it. It says control area and don't enter. And I'm like, why? What's controlled? I mean, I've never seen any power line roads that have a sign that says controlled area. they're all open. You can go anywhere on them. We have power line roads here and they don't say that. But I think that like he was saying, the federal government bought his dad's property. So obviously there's, they know stuff. Absolutely. You said you had kind of seen what you think might be

tracks in the area too. Yeah, there's tracks on this clearing I went to when I got there, I got out of the car and I heard this big, like, there's no houses like right in that area. It's just an open forest clearing area and I heard really, I'm like, nice. And so, like, right then I knew that they were there and then I started, I walked out. All the bushes and grass are like, you know,

chest high there. But I found this point where there's a big stump, and I climbed up on it, and I looked out over, and I started looking down in the mud, and there's, like, partial prints all over, and then there's, like, some full ones in the barthust, but you can't, you can see that they're tracks, but you can't define the toes,

and that's what I kind of look for, and I look for tracks is the toes. Because some of the tracks I've taken pictures of are the most beautiful footprints you've ever seen in your life. You can tell which ones are female, which ones are male. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. On this episode of Plant Killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt. What makes bad dirt so bad? The answer?

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You can order it through DoorDash and other major delivery platforms too. That's freedom to be. Use as directed. It said everything happens for a reason, but maybe everything happens for a recess. Take noise-canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to heighten taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a recess. How do you tell the difference between a male and a female through the track? Well, I think what I assume is the female feet have more of a curve. Okay.

They're kind of like, you know, like they curve. And a male's footprint is just like this square blocky, like big footprint. It's just like a stamp. And then the women's are kind of more curved, you know, how women's feet kind of curve is, you know, have a little bit of a curve to them, I guess. It's like, yeah, you can just see the feminiveness in the track, I guess. I don't know. Maybe that's just something I didn't notice, but.

Yeah, I mean... Did you ever get a measurement of how long the tracks that you found usually are? No, I never actually have never measured the track, and I've never done casting either. Yeah, no problem. But I used to put flour in the back of my yard, a flower down, so they'd step in it. And I got a bunch of footprints doing that. Oh, wow. Yeah.

To kind of go way back, because you mentioned that at points you have put food out. out at certain places. Did you ever put out a banana? And if so, what was the response to that? I did. I put out a banana and it never got touched. Okay. But I put out blueberries.

I would take like all, they would give me like a box of fruit that they was going to go bad. They couldn't give away. So I mean, I would hike up there with like close to 100 pounds of food. Like seriously in a backpack. It was ridiculous. Wow. And it would always take them three days to touch it. But the peanut butter, like the peanut butter was a hit.

And, like, that stuff was always gone. Like, the jar was always cleaned out with a stick, and the stick was always put back right where I said it at the beginning. And I did that, like, three or four times. I even took my mom with me one time, and she's the one that found that peanut butter jar that time. And it was cleaned out. And I took pictures of it and everything. I was blown away by that. I was like, wow.

Because right there, you know, you get more of a solid concrete. like knowledge that it's not a deer or like a raccoon or something because nothing nothing else would be able to do that absolutely man Kyle I knew I knew when you came over that we were going to have a really intense conversation one day and it yeah this is a good good conversation dude I plan on going to that spot the park I plan on going to that like maybe tomorrow. Oh, cool. Yeah, yeah. So I will definitely fill you in on how that goes because I, I'm glad that there's people talking about them not just being eight feet tall because I literally, the, the eight foot tall thing is like kind of, you know, common. But the ones that I

see are 11, 12, 15, 16 feet tall. I mean, they're, they're freaking. And I don't know if it's even possible in a way, but it seems like they kind of almost can change sizes. I don't know why, but it seems like they, like, they can, like, form into each other and, like, you'll see a pile of faces and then, like, it's so weird. And I don't, I don't know enough about it to be able to, like, be certain about it. But I've seen, like, so many times I've seen, like, where they look like they kind of change size and, like, change, like, almost, like, go into each other and, like, become one. Wow. And that makes me think of, like, maybe there's just different kinds of them that, you know, some of them can do that. Some of them can't because I know a lot of podcasts that you've done, no one ever talks about, some people do talk about the more paranormal side of it, but most people, it's a physical, you know, thing, and that's basically what it is to them. And I'm sure that there is that kind, I don't know, it's just, I wonder if there is different kinds is all I've, I've been wondering lately.

Absolutely. Man, how can people reach out to you? It sounds like if someone reaches out to you, you'll talk to them about what they've experienced as I like to do so, but you'll also, since you're out there, you'll check it out. Yeah, and if people want to ever come, you know,

have me show them what I experience, I'd be glad to show, you know, people. My email is, no capital is it's mixed squad. one, just the letter one, and then number one, sorry. And yes, make squatch one at gmail.com. Hopefully you can take that part out of there. I didn't mean to say letter. No, you're good.

I'll actually put it in the show notes so people can also look at the description or show notes and see the exact email if that's all right. But, yeah. Kyle, Kyle McDonald, thank you so much for coming on. have a feeling that we maybe we'll be talking again in the future. But thank you so much for coming on, man. Absolutely. Thank you.

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