Bigfoot Society - 1970's Bigfoot Recordings and Quantum Bigfoot Physics | Sierra Sounds Producer | Ron Morehead
Episode Date: March 12, 2022#118Author/Adventurist Ron Morehead, producer of the Sierra Sounds, has been known for decades for his world-wide research into the Bigfoot/Sasquatch phenomenon. To date, he comes closer than any othe...r researcher to having a complete body of evidence. The Sierra Sounds are the only Bigfoot recordings that have been scientifically studied, time-tested, and accredited as genuine. Ron has documented his personal interactions with these giant beings and produced his story on a CD and also in a book, “Voices in the Wilderness.”Join the Bigfoot Society Patreon for an extra 20 minutes with Ron where we answer Patreon questions and discuss remote viewing! You'll also get a sweet membership card, a special vinyl sticker and much, much more!https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyTune in every Saturday at 5 pm Central for new episodes of Bigfoot Society!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7QIG: https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Website: https://bit.ly/3jvKIm7Donate: https://bit.ly/3C4hodMShop: https://etsy.me/3ptlubQiTunes: https://apple.co/3fmmhTCSpotify: https://spoti.fi/3vF1vIriHeart Radio: https://ihr.fm/3CarDgDStitcher: https://bit.ly/3m75I4xFacebook: https://bit.ly/3b5XgMpFull links: https://bit.ly/bigfootlinksResource:Ron's website - https://ronmorehead.comSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety)
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All right, well, thanks for coming back to the Bigfoot Society podcast.
I have the pleasure of talking to a new friend of Ron Moorhead.
You may have heard the name, of course.
He's a classic Bigfoot researcher, for sure, someone that I highly admire.
But let's take a few minutes kind of going through a little bit about Ron,
in case you don't, as we do have people listening to this that are not just all about
Bigfoot, they like things like Dogman, and so you may have a little bit to learn tonight.
So Ron Moorhead has been known for decades for his worldwide research into the Bigfoot Sasquatch
phenomenon. He's an author, researcher, lecturer, lecturer, experiencer, and producer of the Sierra Sounds.
To date, he comes closer than any other researcher to having a complete body of evidence.
He's the author of the book's Voices in the Wilderness and also the Quantum Bigfoot.
And for those of you that like to watch different shows or involved with different Bigfoot programs,
you may remember him being involved with things such as Expedition Bigfoot,
Leska Killer Bigfoot, things of that nature.
He seems to always kind of pop up, which is fun, definitely.
Well, Ron, pleasure to have you on tonight.
I would love to start with, let's, you.
give our audience a quick, maybe a quick advice, which would be interesting.
So let's pretend that I'm going on my first Bigfoot hunt tomorrow.
And what advice would you give to me as a new researcher?
How would I want to be prepared to have a mindset of?
Oh, like I say, just in a filming today, actually, you don't.
If you're coming down in a parachute, you really want it to open.
So treat your mind like a parachute to keep an open mind.
and just be simple.
Don't try to make something happen because they're going to deal with it on their terms,
their time.
And just be yourself.
And if yourself is what they want to do with,
they'll tune in your frequency and they'll deal with you.
Oh, so you're saying they can tell if you're being true to yourself,
they can sense that.
That's very...
I think a lot of animals can read aura,
a energy that surrounds you.
And as Tesla said,
everything is energy, frequency, and vibration.
So if you got the right frequency and the right mindset,
they might just want to deal with you.
Wow.
And just to verify,
you're talking about Nikolai Tesla?
Yes.
Okay, cool, cool.
Just for the new...
No, car maker.
He's like, what's wrong talking about?
We got this electric car and Bigfoot's here?
No, Nikolite Tesla.
Yeah, that's a...
fascinating historical figure for sure.
Yeah, we'll talk more about that later.
The whole, I want to get into the quantum Bigfoot's side of things as well.
But let's try.
I'm going to try to play some sound from your website here,
Ron Moorhead.com.
We're going to try this.
And then I want to get your thoughts on something I've shared.
So let me go ahead and get that.
popped up right now here.
So
give that a minute.
And okay.
So Ron, I'm going to play
a sound and then I want to get
your thoughts on
explain what we just heard.
So here we go.
All right.
And were you able to,
you were able to hear that, correct?
I did.
Awesome. All right. So
I'm curious,
there's got to be,
You've had, I mean, quite a while to come up with a killer elevator pitch for what we just heard.
And I'm curious what that is, Rod.
Well, usually the sounds are played after I explain them, you know, which...
Oh, okay.
All right.
Well, that's okay.
Yeah.
I'm next thing.
I put on my site to let people hear a little bit of what we have.
And we record these things in the Sierra Nevada Mountains, about a eight mile trek into a wilderness area, 8,400 feet in elevation.
And pretty imposing area you get to.
these things started coming around at a camp making these vocalizations like that.
And we thought they were probably just some kind of a wild animal.
It's a hunting camp who was there to hunt, not to look for Bigfoot.
None of us were looking for Bigler, really.
But they started coming back and repeating, they coming back into the camp.
And we were concerned because some of the sounds at first were very oppressive sounding,
very, very aggressive.
And then they started chattering like you just heard.
And this went on and on.
And in 1972 is when we took the investigator in there, Alan Berry.
And he recorded the same sounds, and he was looking for a hoax like most people thought it was.
But he had him studied these sounds at the University of Wyoming.
That's a professor of current electrical engineer, professor of electroengineering.
And he determined that the sounds were not manufactured.
There were no 60 cycle helmet in which was.
They showed pre-recorded or re-recording.
And then that took place.
It was all real.
And they could speed it up or slowed down.
And they're inside, outside, above and below, the average of the range.
Sounds to be studied.
So that was a pretty good little hurdle that Albury fostered that study.
And of course, we didn't know at the time what we're dealing with.
And to this day, we don't really know.
They have a big foot.
So I guess we got a couple of big foot.
they had a big voice and they're huge beings.
Again, the first, they were pretty aggressive sounding and you didn't know if he's going to,
we were all heavily armed.
We had our guns with us, the hunting camp.
Sure.
So really, I didn't know if we're going to have to shoot a way out,
or if these things are going to come in and get us,
or they were just arguing at each other over the salt and pepper.
They were going to put on us where they got us on the hell.
Yeah, right.
So we just ended up not shooting our way out,
not having to deal with that, got complacent with us a little bit and started trying to deal with them
and see what was going on.
Because for some reason, they found us curious.
It was coming around a camp at night.
And didn't leave anything but the tracks for evidence.
And that's what Albury.
We didn't know at the time, but that's what he was looking for.
It was evidence of a trickster or a post or one of us pulling something off or something going on like that.
But it wasn't that way.
And we knew that, but he didn't.
And he was trying to do a professional job.
He was investigated.
quarter actually. So anyway it wasn't until a phone later on in 2008 when a
cryptolinguish retired from the Navy as a cryptolinguish Scott Nelson's his name and
he got a home. He's a two-time graduate of Navy a foreign languages institute in
Monterey to study languages for the military to see if it is number one a language
or just some kind of a code going through or if there's any deception in the
messages and stuff like that. So he he studied him also.
He heard him by accident and I came out and interviewed me and Albury at the same.
And he got the context of all the sounds that he was hearing and went back and studied himself.
He said, you know, this is a language by the human definition of language, which means something.
It means a lot to me actually.
Because only humans have the vocal mechanism for language, sapient language like I'm talking right now.
No other animal has that on face of this planet, according to Dr. Lieberman at Brown University.
Yet these things have that, and that makes it, that takes it to a hundred of the level for me.
If they have that, that means there's a possible human component to them.
Now the DNA is also supporting some of that,
because what they thought was just contaminated DNA that they were getting
because they had human genome or human, human, human colors in them,
that there was contaminated.
that's what they thought but now they're thinking maybe that where they're so close to human
that there is human in them or we have bigfoot in us depending on what came first the chicken or the egg
wow so anyway these things i think have been around for eons they've evolved and uh dr
heater heather something like that he's written a paper on it and he took the uh the study that
dr melba ketchum did and took another spin on it instead of going through the well there's no nuclear
for the male counterpart, and she took it, went into the biblical text of aliens coming down
and infiltrating the human genome. And he took it to another different direction of the relic
hollied coming through and just inbreeding with the humans and becoming more human life.
So you can take your choice at which road you want to go down, but either one's a rabbit hole.
Oh, yeah, that's for sure.
What was going on to that sound you heard there was two of them, I think.
Yeah.
And we was recording them from 71 on to 376 when the close in stuff stopped.
No.
Other things kept going on, but nothing close in.
I write about that in my first group of voices and willingness, and that's what I think might have stopped them coming in close.
Or they just lost interest in us because we thought we were setting them.
We underestimated what we're dealing with at the time, really.
We thought, you know, they're just something out there unique.
and we didn't know what we did it with.
So we didn't get a picture.
We set up camera traps trying to trick them,
but they seemed to go around those when they,
how they knew they were there.
We set up with red six foot high,
so they'd trip it when they come in.
Oh, wow.
They'd go a different way to come in after the food that we'd leave it out.
So they seem to stay a step ahead of us,
which makes it very intuitive.
That wasn't all that was going on.
There was other things going on in that camp
that we couldn't get answers to.
Al Berry, the investigative reporter,
had a master's degree in science.
And he said, stay with science, whatever you do,
because don't talk about these strange things going on
or you'll get invited to talk anywhere.
So I didn't for a long time,
but I do now.
And that's when I came out with my second book,
The Quantum Big Book,
because I think it goes into another science.
Sure.
And we can get into that whenever you want to.
But that's a long way around about trying to tell you
what the first sound was all about.
That's awesome.
I would love to have, so for context.
So in 70 years, you say you're 71, about five years,
the interesting thing I want listeners to understand is so Ron has that research going on,
which is an extremely close proximity time-wise to the Patterson-Gimlin film,
which was in 1967.
Um, was there any, um, was there any overlap between the, the two camps?
Or was it that your stuff was going on?
Did you have any knowledge of what had gone on with the Patterson Gimlin film?
Do you remember?
I remember the film.
Okay.
Didn't give a whole lot credit.
In fact, I lived in Northern California at the time.
Okay.
They thought it at the time was just a wild ending or something out there.
Interesting.
Uh, and so it wasn't on a radar at all.
It got on my radar right away, though.
because I didn't start going until 71, but the Johnson brothers, who really was seniors in the camp, they were going through since 1958.
Wow.
What may have been around before that, they don't know, but they just never thought about Bigfoot.
It was hunting.
A lot of bear up there.
Nice game.
Good, good hunting areas.
So they was very private about who went in there.
I was friends with them, but I wasn't a hunter.
But when one of the guys got scared off by these sounds, not one of the Johnson's, but a different man, he wouldn't go back.
And the wives were worried because the guys hadn't came out.
Again, you don't know what you're dealing with.
You don't know if you just don't know, it's a monster out there.
But he came out and said, you know, what they were telling me, what Johnson said, this was 71.
It's true.
There's some kind of monster up there.
This guy's very religious.
He didn't know where to put that in his paradigm.
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Oh, yeah, just best with them.
Giants aren't supposed to be around anymore.
Oh, yeah, right?
These things were huge.
Wow.
So the wives are worried.
The guys didn't come out when you were supposed to.
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He was going to go back, but he wouldn't go back by himself.
He asked me to go with him, and that's how I got involved, really.
And that was 71.
And that's really when the actual vocalization started.
It was 71, because Warren Johnson thinks one got burnt on the stove or something,
because they'd gone in the shelter, and they had a teapot.
They had an old stove that had hauled up there, they reassembled in on the wheels and all.
And they literally made a commotion and they didn't know what it was, but they realized those sounds were not from a bear.
And they went out later when everything stopped.
They seen this huge track there in the mug.
And then they knew something else who crawled here came out and that's when they told the other guys and they started coin up.
One of the guys who like I said went up, he got scared off and just wouldn't go back.
That's fascinating.
By himself anyway.
So anyway, got in.
All the guys were okay.
That's how I got involved.
Okay.
A hunter after that.
And I started hunting with them and experiencing these beings.
So there you are.
That's awesome.
So were you in your, if I could ask, were you in your 20s or 30?
I was 29.
Okay.
Okay.
I'll be 80 years old this summer.
Oh, yeah.
Gotcha.
It's a 29.
Still upright.
Still rocking it for sure.
I mean, you're sending me like, you're sending me a emoji from your iPhone, dude.
I was loving it in that email.
That was amazing.
I was like, what?
Ron is rocking it.
I'm curious.
So I'm curious, was that your first interaction with Bigfoot and introduction to Bigfoot?
Or did you have in your 28 years prior to this?
Did you also have, were you interested in Bigfoot?
Did you have interactions in other ways?
No, not at all.
Not at all.
Okay.
No, I was just a businessman.
Like the other guys were two.
Okay.
Three, four was four.
It was five, five of us all together.
And they were substantial people in the community.
I had several restaurants and I was doing very well.
And ended up, well, anyway, they didn't want to talk about it except to their close friends.
None of us did because at those days, in the seven,
you know you got kind of laughed at because of the cartoonist name of Bigfoot.
But I got to tell you, those things are out there.
And I don't try to convince anybody that are out there.
I just try to tell them what I've discovered and how I put the dots together for a possible picture of what these things could be and what they could represent.
I think it's very important for people to know what I'm thinking and they can take it where they want to take it.
You don't have to believe it if you don't want to, but don't have choices in life.
choices of life and these things are there for a reason and uh they've been around for possibly longer
than we have and that depends on how you want to look at creation and how it all took place you
know that is that's absolutely true yeah that's uh that is that is true i love that i love that um
over the years did you have any other uh notable bigfoot interactions or encounters
besides the Sierra sounds?
I've had a few things happen, yes,
but nothing like the Sierra camp had.
Sure.
There's a strange anomaly that's happened up there with us.
Really?
It's just, you know, we went,
I've been on an investigation a lot,
been traveling a lot.
I've been around the world very well.
You're looking at this phenomenon around these things.
But, yeah, actually, good one happened when Albury
and I went on an expedition.
These guys called us, and they said that,
They had in the sightings that once while, glimpses these things way back in the wilderness up by Alec Almeador.
And so I flew up there in my plane and they picked us up the airport and we went back in the wilderness with them.
And we just all sitting around the fire and they tell us about what went on and what was going on at this place.
And all of a sudden this rock was whizzed by us.
Oh, wow.
Just so fast, just so fast, hit this tree closer to us.
And we found the rock the next morning.
these guys took off, they said, we're not standing here,
but whatever through that thing,
had to have an arm like you wouldn't believe,
or it was catapult by something.
Yeah.
Extremely big, because this,
just, anyway,
don't know what that was all about other than something was there.
Albury and I stayed there that night.
We found the rock the next morning.
We chipped off the tree, the bark on the tree.
So that was kind of fun,
because we never had rocks thrown at us at our camp.
But these things, I think,
they throw rocks, they don't intend to hit you. They just intend to get you out of that area.
They don't want you there. And so a lot of people claim that rocks have been thrown out of
a friend of mine in an Olympia Park, the Olympia National Forest up there.
Yeah, yeah. A rock thrown over his head. Sure, yeah. And he'd turn around to see one of these
things right there. That means don't go that way. Whatever you're going to go. Yeah, they probably
don't want to play around.
Well, there could be a young one involved.
Who knows what they're doing when they do that.
But I got to tell you, one time, though,
I got Warren Johnson's son, Larry, he claims he had a rock thrown
over his head when he's coming in a different direction,
which don't usually go that way.
You can't take the animals that way at all.
You have to be a ability to come that way.
He came that way and had something thrown overhead
besides a grapefruit.
And it wasn't something just fell.
It was something that's cut off a throat over it.
And you told us about when you got into camp, but they don't go that way anymore.
Yeah.
Yeah, they don't like that for sure.
Is there a story from your years of research that you wish you got to tell more,
or maybe the chance to tell it has never come up, or is everything out there?
You know, I try to put everything out there.
People ask me, I tell them.
I've been into Nepal, I've been into Moscow, into Siberia, into Siberia,
into South America a couple of times, studying the elongated skulls.
You see if they had anything to do with the sagesal crest that's so often reported on
Bigfoot up here.
And see if there was a crumb trail of anything bringing that elongated skulls because they're
naturally elongated.
I was down there with two different scientists and studying those.
And they have a single parietal.
We have two parietal, one on each side of our head, you know, the sidel suture in the middle.
And these things don't have a satchel suture.
They just got one elongated and they weren't cradle boarding.
People said, well, they were cradleboarded.
Well, the Inca's cradle boarded, their youth, the royalty,
to try to emulate what these pre-Incate people had,
which was I think we think the ability
is to move these big megastructures around.
And I mean, they took a hundred ton boulders
from miles away and pipel from this 13,000 foot mile.
And they placed them together like a jigsaw puzzle.
And you don't know how they did it today,
because there's no mortar involved.
like the masons or something's incredible yeah yeah it is incredible so when you see that stuff
and then you see the remains of things and things that weren't more human like idea it kind of
lets you open your line up a little more well something with advanced technology has been here before
a long time ago and they're responsible for a lot of the structures we see all over the world now
it's been exposed to us and um it's just happening everywhere so i was with brian forester down
there and he uh yeah quite a quite a guide he knows more about that area than the locals
he's a he's a good guy he's a i mean i've heard a few of his interviews on uh the podcast blurry
creatures and the guy is uh i know you're on that as well but that gentleman is he's a smart
guy he's got a lot of knowledge for sure yeah he is and he loves it down he's married to a local
a lot of a Lima there, a lady, and he gets around private.
Fantastic, fantastic.
I'm curious, do you have any, you were just recently, there's probably a few listeners
and watchers that are like, I remember this guy from Alaska Killer Bigfoot.
Do you have any cool stories from being involved with that?
That was some pretty cool episodes that you were.
Yeah, you know, they take the narrative they want.
Oh, yeah, sure.
for a long time. You know how that works. I got you. Yeah. I talk about a little quantum physics,
how everything is energy frequency and vibration. Somehow a lot of people reported these things
disappearing over the years. And I used to just fill those people out like most researchers would
because nothing can disappear, right? Well, interesting.
Well, things can disappear from our parameters from what we can see. We only see within
lights frequency, which is 430 terahhertz and the 770 terhertz. There's all these other frequencies
is out there. And according to quantum physics, there's, and by the way, quantum physics
is not just a theory. It's been proven mathematically that these other dimensions exist. We just
don't see them. We can only see within our three-dimensional environment. So really, I got into
that a little bit with them up there, and we talked about how if they can change their matter,
there's who they are into energy only, it would cause them to disappear. Because the native
lore says a lot of it anyway, says that they live in two words. It says that they live in two
worlds that they are their spirit being to can disappear well they say they live in trees also
well so i i said that that could live in trees okay well yeah right yeah i don't know how it came out
but it didn't you know it's just bam they live in trees that sounds a little that sounds a little
crazy you know you got to talk about what well what could cause that what science could
could actually make that happen okay but i was on a part of
I guess just take it to a go to and I say, you know, if they can change somehow through
their frequency, because their vocal mechanisms are so much superior to ours, I mean, it goes
really high frequencies we can't even hear, but they go so high and then all of a sudden
they're out of our hearing.
We don't hear it or sound or also sound, but it's there.
There's a lot of things we don't hear, see, or even smell.
But they can go out of our perception by change into another dimension possibly, which means
changing the matter into energy.
By the way, that was established mathematically.
It happened by Dr. Dirac, D-I-R-A-C.
In 1933, you got a Nobel Prize for the equation.
And then quantum physics, it says matter can change in energy.
Now that's been established by CERN in Switzerland, you know.
Oh, boy.
Here we go.
CERN stuff.
Oh, yeah.
I'm getting too deep here too quick.
No, let's go.
Let's go deep, Ron.
Let's do it.
Anyway, that's been established now.
Matter can change into energy.
That's a fact.
And it's been proven now of the mathematical equation
that the doctor from Florida established
and got a Nobel Prize for it.
So anyway, if they can change their matter into energy,
they can be seen as cloaking
through that dimension of time, maybe into a fifth dimension,
or somewhere, who knows,
but that may be how people are seeing them
in this cloaking type.
Can they disappear? They can go out of our perception. Yes. What happens then? I don't know. But I got an idea that they go into a fifth dimension. Because time as we perceive it don't exist in that other dimension anyway. Interesting. And if they can change the matter into energy, but somehow they can change the energy back into matter. I think it's done through frequency. And if they can change the frequency right, of course, if you get the frequency right on anything, you change the matter. And that's a lot. And that's, you know,
Einstein, no matter what, energy is everything. That's all the restuity says. And if you can
learn the frequency of anything, your perception can take it into, uh, into, as a statement,
he says, I don't have it in front of me. I could read it too exactly, but you can change matter
into energy. You can have anything you want. And that's how I think our masters did, did they,
that's how they did what they did, uh, through, uh, through, that's how the miracles,
performance. We can find the energy of something. You can change its matter. So that's how you can
get yourself better by raising your frequency higher. You learn the frequency of anything and you can
change it. Yeah, I'm getting too deep. No. My batteries are there is no there's no too deep,
Ron, for sure. So when someone sees a you know what I got to do? Hang on a second. Yeah,
yeah. I think of your time for sure. Yeah, you got it. My battery's running out. Hang on just a
second. No sweat, Ron. No sweat. All right, Ron, I'm going to tell you what's happening
audio listener. So Ron is taking a few minutes to plug something in. We've had a rocking chat so
far about we were just starting to get into Quantum Bigfoot stuff and I got a whole
questions to talk to Ron. Of course, guys, if you're listening to this and you're enjoying it so
far definitely check out ron's website ronmorehead dot com pick yourself up a copy of the
voices in the wilderness and the quantum bigfoot book uh i mean they're both solid solid books
and get the whole story from there as well okay all right i got to ask you what's the story
what's the story behind the hat?
Did you get that?
Oh, gosh.
You know, it's the first I've been wearing my hat on these podcasts
because I usually have a headset on, so I can see it's good now with the microphone here,
and I hope you hear it okay.
I was sort of behind the hat just, you know, I got branded with it.
Yeah.
Oh, years and years ago by a production company,
and it just kind of stuck with me if I liked it.
And so I just, this is just what you should look like.
So anyway, I kind of started wearing it then.
And the first thing, you know, became a real,
iconic
people don't recognize
me if to take my hat on
here.
Yeah, no.
I mean,
when you think of Ron Moorhead,
you think of
the voice,
the hat.
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Well,
the hat is something,
like I say,
this is the first time
I've ever wore it
on a podcast.
You've got a new.
Well,
thank you.
Yeah.
Some new going on
there.
Well, I don't like
the headset on so much.
I get it.
Yeah.
I get it.
Especially when your
hair is all that stuff.
Oh, I know.
It's wild.
So going back to quantum, I got a question about, we'll start kind of getting into the quantum bigfoot stuff.
So when a person sees Bigfoot, do you think it's because they themselves are in tune in a certain way or maybe because the Bigfoot is revealing itself in a way or we just don't know?
Well, we don't know, but I think it's both what you just said.
I think if you're in the right attitude, the right frequency, I think they might want to engage you.
And I'm not sure about the sightings because, you know, the sightings are either an accident or they let you see them.
Interesting. Interesting.
Oh, go ahead. Yeah.
Well, I was just going to talk about the Patterson film.
That was just, they snuck up on it because they were both on horseback riding up to Gulf Creek there and kind of enough of the sound, I think.
So they got lucky.
Like, we got lucky up there, but we got lucky over the years.
So, I mean, what we capture up there, their sounds or vocalizations.
It's not the first time people have heard that type of stuff.
It's the first time people have recorded it and had the scientific studies done on it.
Like, we're done.
And that makes them credible.
People say they can mimic those or some people say, well, they just backed their truck up to some dirt road and had a six-pack and had a good time, you know.
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No, that's not what happened.
It's a very imposing trip.
Very imposing trip.
Oh, yeah.
David Polite's up there,
you know, the missing 401
the hunted.
Yep, yep.
And he filmed me up there
for about 15, 15 minutes.
He's up there for a whole week.
Wow.
And it kind of shows what it takes
to get into that camp and it's not an easy trip and for someone to go in there and pull this trick off
on us was just not plausible it's just not sensible who would have done it why they could have done it
and how and who who were we for something like that to happen wow uh actually i talked about it here
just today from a comer uh he uh got into 1924 from the Albert osman uh
kidnapping you know yeah and uh how he heard them chattering when he was held captive for six days
male a female and two adolescents and and chattering is what you'll hear with these sounds that we
recorded the chatter real rapidly exactly that's uh that's something that has not been it's been
heard a lot not a lot but a lot people totally they've heard what we recorded just like that
who's walking around a tape recorder and right there's just
there's tricks too, I just say tricks, but there's a methodology, I think, to how you can get
interaction with these things. And most of the time it's just, what you said before,
have the right attitude. And they'll, they want to mess with you and get in the hospital,
they'll mess with you. Some guy called me the other day, want some tips on what to do.
And so it's more what you don't do that counts not what you do. Just be yourself and whoever
you are is going to attract them or not.
And I'm not sure they were supposed to mess with us like they did, but they did.
And because I don't think anything is supposed to mess with our karma, who we are and what we're supposed to respond to.
Life itself is just a bunch of experiences that all of us have, different ones.
And what's important is how we respond to those experiences, because if you respond to them properly, you're going to raise your vibrational frequency.
And you've got to get to another frequency to get out of this 3D environment.
According to Stephen Hawkins, according to Einstein, energy cannot die.
And that's what we are.
We're all energy at the most minute level of our existence, vibrating at a frequency.
Once you pass on, when this body gives out, your consciousness keeps going.
And where it goes, if you're a religious version, you think you're going to go to heaven,
or you hope so anyway.
Right.
And then if you're a physicist or somebody else like that, you're just going to go to another dimension somewhere else.
Mindsign wouldn't play with that one.
He had no idea.
But they did set up the big, you know, and Tesla and all those old,
physicists, they study religions. And Einstein said, what do you say? Science without religion is lame and religion without science is blind.
So I think we said it today, he'd say spirituality, not religion, because a lot of religions have their own little box you've got to jump through where
spirituality, we're spiritual beings whether we like it or not. We just are, and we're going to go somewhere else when this body gives out.
If you don't respond to everything properly in this body, you're probably going to have to do it again.
If you don't learn from your past, you've got to learn it somewhere.
We've all got to buy rate at a higher frequency to evolve.
And I think we're all supposed to evolve.
And anyway, I think that's how one of the miracles evolved by the old masters were done and how they're done today is by finding the frequency.
Because even the guy a couple thousand years ago said, you know, what he's doing, we can do.
But I can't walk a walk a water yet.
Yeah.
I've learned how to turn water into wine either.
Better time that way.
That would be a great business prospect there, Ron, is be able to, you know, do that.
But yeah, getting back to Portlock just for a second.
That was a fun trip, you know.
They did have something going on up there.
The guys are real.
They aren't actors.
Okay.
I kind of knew that way.
I watched it.
But again, the Travel Channel that sponsored that, they spent a lot of money on that.
And people are trying to reopen that camp that they, obviously, those people that watch the series,
knows what's going on.
But for those who didn't, 70 years ago, there's people being killed there, cornucon,
part and nagled and missing and what have you.
So they just abandoned the village.
But they were overfishing it, I think.
They were timbering it.
And when I flew over to helicopter going in there, I was looking at the area.
We circled the air equipment, the land.
And I think they were just, they were overmining it, too.
They were mining there.
They were timber in there, and they were fishing there.
It could be that they were just not taking care of the land away.
I think probably these things would like for them to, especially trees.
They really had a problem with us cutting timber down.
And I've had more and more reports over the years of these things being seen around
with a clear-cutting timber or somebody's bucking logs and they don't like that at all because
trees are what gives us our oxygen you know and if they do uh want the trees for energy which
that sounds a little crazy out there but but they can do what them suggesting they might be able
to do uh changing the matter and energy uh they might just go into a tree to rest or reflect i don't know
That would be so interesting.
Well, that's what a lot of people, I know a couple that have swore of them down, they saw them go in and out of a tree.
Oh, really? Wow.
Some people say, well, they came up behind this tree.
One guy said, but his shoulders were four foot wide.
That's how big was a tree.
He said, well, that's pretty strange.
The tree's only two foot round.
Oh, wow.
So that's kind of an interesting theory, and that's all it is, a theory.
and I should say hypothesis on theory, because it's just something that people have to put their minds open to.
These things, if they can go out of our perception, like I think they can.
See, our whole 3D world is based on Newtonian physics of 1687, and that means everything's contingent on our feelings,
or what we can smell, or can touch, what can see, those five senses that we all have.
It's based on everything being predictable and measurable and material or physical.
And that's just not true.
Everything's not that way.
Everything in our 3D world is that way.
And you get out of it, which exists, things exist.
When people say, quantum physics only is in the micro world, that's BS.
Quantum physics works from the atom all the way through the cosmos, according to Christopher Blair at West Texas A&M.
So for those people that want to doubt.
me because it's all it works in the micro world. That's because you don't see, you know,
but you know the effects from our cell phones, from the microwave oven, from different things
like that in the micro world. But it's operating throughout the universe, throughout us,
of the stars. So you get into that knowledge and you kind of opens your mind up. Could the dog
man exist? Absolutely. I don't put anything else. I was going to just ask you about him, actually.
You know, if these things can change like that. If they could, if there's, and I'd get a,
into, I think you're going to
this one, but alien intervention into the genome
of different species on this planet.
And I talked about that
quite a bit. It's what I think
has happened. I think aliens have been coming in
for not just thousands or probably
millions of years. Is you talking about
like Nephilim or
well that's different?
No, if you want to get into religious
text, yeah. But you
talk about the star people, the
light beings of light, people coming down from
from stars. They call them gods and there was dimmigods going on and that's a cross between a god of
alien being and a genome of a Cedar on a planet of some type. So yeah, because the dog man exists.
If some alien wants to change the DNA of some animal, they experiment, I think. And I think that here,
this planet is a jewel of the solar system. And, you know, who would want to be here?
you don't be a barn or Venus on this earth's nice.
No, no, I think this is...
And we're blowing it up, we're screwing it up, you know,
and we're really not doing it right.
And that's concerning, I think.
I think it's concerning to aliens and to should be concerning to us.
We should be able to stop hurting and killing and get back to what we're supposed to be,
which is perfection.
That's what you've got to go.
You get to that by raising your frequency higher and higher and higher.
By the way, you do that through love and compassion.
I was going to ask you that too.
Yeah, love and compassion.
Okay.
That's how you get better.
And that's how, you know, it's easy to just get mad at some little old lady that won't move in the right turns of green, stuff like that.
She's not double the medication or whatever, but have compassion for her.
That's right.
Have compassion for these people that aren't quite up to par.
Don't let things bother you that, you know, and make you go off on somebody.
You want to treat people better and do better things.
makes you a better person number one. It makes everything better. You don't get sick anymore,
by the way. I mean, you can actually keep from having anything going wrong with you. I had my
blood work done the other day and finally got a doctor here in North Carolina and see me.
Okay. And everything is right with me. I mean, I haven't been sick in years. I just,
it's just be happy. That's the one thing I want to say, if you want to go out there and try to
engage these things, have a good nature to you. And that's just my two bits worth.
So what I'm getting from that is if you're going out there with an intent to cause harm,
you probably won't have the best luck is what I'm thinking.
I think you're right on target there.
Yeah.
And we were hunters, but we wouldn't run a shootout.
I don't want to do that.
And I think they knew that.
And they just started interacting with us up there until, I mean, really interacting with this as far as me yelling back at them,
coming back at me with something.
until in 1974 when we'd already been dealing with since 71.
But I think they knew we weren't going to shoot at them.
They knew we didn't want to.
I was up there with another guy and I just happened to have my little cassette record.
That's how we had in those days, just cassettes, you know.
Pulled out of my saddlebag and started recording this and that's where the samurai cry come from,
the people heard from.
That's the night I saw one running through the trees.
I said running through the trees is so fast and just floated through the tree line there.
Wait, sorry. So you saw one running through the trees?
Yeah. Well, I don't know if it went through the trees.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that was exciting. Me and one other guy was packing supplies on horses and wheels.
And they started dealing with it right after it got dark.
They do certain things that I could identify when I hear it.
they start doing things and try to draw your attention and see what you're going to do.
And the first thing you're going to do is probably shine light to that sound if you don't recognize what it is.
And I'm talking about tree popping or rocks popping together, whooping sounds or something like that.
They do all that.
And if you react, but we learn just leave alone.
Don't react to that.
Just be still.
Keep doing what you're doing.
Gotcha.
Have fun.
Be sober.
Don't make notes.
That's great advice.
Yep.
Make notes.
and be sober. We were also with very sober camps, so when anything drug you're going on or anything like that.
Yeah, gotcha.
So that's what I think they do is try to do things that see what your action is going to be, because they do toy with you.
And then if you just leave it alone, they're coming closer. That's what happened that night.
They start going closer and closer. First thing, you know, they started asking me something.
I don't know what it was, but you can tell about it.
the way it's phrased, which I reported.
Yeah, the inflection, yeah.
Yeah, the inflection of the sentence.
They just, oh, I again, underestimate them.
I was just trying to mimic them that night.
And I wasn't doing a very good job of it, but I think they thought it was kind of funny.
It was funny, I guess, in retrospect, I guess.
I mean, I don't know how I would, honestly, how I would handle that.
I mean, I would have so many paradigm shifts happening in my mind so quick, you know.
to experience something like that.
And it's this wild, but I love hearing your story.
I'm curious.
I love asking a question similar to this to all the different people I talk to is over the years that you've researched Bigfoot.
Are there books that you found that you've leaned on or that you, they are always on your bookshelf,
anything that you recommend when it comes to books for study?
Not really.
I gave my books my daughter, most of them.
But I suggest people look into quantum physics 101, just simple.
Learn quantum physics what's all about because, again, if your parachute don't open, you're in trouble.
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Keep your mind open up like a parachute.
and don't be fixed within parameters of a certain discipline and don't make have your mind made up of what you think they are and try to make whatever you're dealing with fit into that box that you've got going on.
Get outside the box of Newtonian physics alone and learn quantum science and what it's all about because I think any researcher that's not looking into that is due to discredit to himself because it's a science that does exist.
It's established.
why not use it as one of your research tools.
That's where I go with it because I know very professional people that just won't get into it all.
But you know, a lot of these people who are trained within disciplines,
and they can stay within that box or they lose their tenure.
They love them lose their credibility with their colleagues.
They love to lose the funding for the next project.
I know these guys, some of them personally, and that's what happens if they get out.
that discipline that they've been trained in.
You have to go to church and talk to God on Sunday, you know.
And here's what I say.
I say, you know, if you believe in a God or anything in the hereafter, welcome to the
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Because they say, they're all the flesh and blood or they're over here in the woo-woo.
Well, no, you can have your flesh and blood and your woo-woo together.
Because we are all fresh in blood, there's no good around that.
These things are flesh and blood.
That's a fact, you know.
But there's more to anybody that's just fresh in blood.
Flesh and blood, Newtonian physics does not explain consciousness.
It doesn't explain telekinesis, it doesn't explain deja vuze that we had.
It doesn't explain remote viewing that the FBI and
rush is used for years. It doesn't explain. Oh, yeah. It doesn't explain who we are.
Yeah, these things are have a human component to them. They may have the same attributes that we have,
so they can do a lot of things we're doing and more because maybe they've been here longer.
Maybe some alien has made them into something that, that from a primate, they took a charbonite
which has evolved. I'm not against, I'm not against Darwinism at all, but I think there's a
piece missing there.
Interesting.
And I do believe that different types of aliens, there are different frequency beings out there.
Probably a lot of them have been on this planet.
Some of them I think are here now.
I've seen a UFO when this big foot stuff was going on up there.
And a lot of people, about 20% of people that you talk to, about 20%, there's a UFO siding
with a big foot.
And that was, I got that out of 2012 Huffington Post when they found an oracle out of the Eureka Times.
think it was where a rancher and some Navy of Americans saw this large moon coming down and three
crazy bears jumped out of it.
Oh, man, that's wild.
That's one of the first reports of possibly included alien connections.
So I think, I think there is an alien connection to them.
I think an alien connection to us, because you really get into who we are as humans, you get into
biblical research.
I always raised religiously.
I'm not religious anymore, but we're spiritual, like I say, we're all spiritual beings.
sure uh but if you get into god in the god is burl there's some pretty good uh evidence to show that if you really
researched uh sans script and get into a lot of the ancient text besides the survival
god is plural also says god is light all all those reports about the light beings with the
shiny ones and different things coming out from the sky they call them gods well if we're made in
that image were made very special. And I think people undress me who we are as humans.
And we've been given dominion on this planet and that's why they don't mess with us because
we are here to evolve into something better. And we're supposed to be doing that through love and
compassion. And that's where I go with where I think anyway. It's exciting. I got to tell you,
it's exciting. It's hard to keep me excited this late in the night, but you're using bed by now.
Ron, I appreciate you being on this so much.
You have no idea because, like, you're an hour ahead of North Carolina.
And, like, man, like everyone, go pick up a, go to Ronmorehead.com, pick up some, some copies of Quantum Bigfoot and Voices in the Wilderness.
And is there, what's the best way to hear, like, to hear the Sierra sounds?
There's a recording, correct?
I have two CDs also on my website at Ronmorehead.com.
You'll see these are all downloadable.
sold the books so you don't have to buy the hard copy you just want to download it and uh in the
voices the woman it's my first book it's my chronicle of doing this for so many years and
it gets into the context of what sound i was hearing and then you can hear the sound with the download
so there's a download leak in the back of the book page 126 actually and uh if you hook into that
you can hear every sound i'm talking about i think i put 24 26 sound bites in there that we were
here at different times and the context of the sound, what's right up to.
And what I've gone through, a little bit of my Peruvian, my trip down in South America with,
and what, how I think the trail ran from the long-gated skull.
By the way, they had that 30% more brain matter than we did.
Because the skulls are.
Yeah.
However, the Inc is when they cradleboarded their youth to get the long-gated skulls trying to mimic
probably what these pretty people could do they didn't get more brain matter
they just got a little skull so and we was always able to actually de-mumify one
that was found out there really took it apart and examined it said down there
two different years to do scientists on two different expeditions we weighed the
skulls we checked them out went into the high country went into the megalactic
structures and went in some places with brian forester that they don't normally go
too. It was exciting. That'll open your mind up. Wow. That's that's that's interesting Ron. So you're
actually boots on the ground hands on like looking at researching these mummies but you're like
you're on hands on. Yeah I didn't touch the money. Everyone messed up with DNA. Yeah. I mean I
don't know. I don't say something about you know thumbs down. He's off the weeds there somewhere.
And they say I get off in the weeds, maybe that's where Bigfoot is.
That's true.
Maybe that's why we haven't had.
What do you think is going to be, do you think this generation is going to be the one that finally like proves Bigfoot 100%?
Science is on board 100%?
Or like, will there always be this cat and mouse game?
It's hard to say, you know, as long as these things are trying to be exposed and they haven't been exposed.
Yeah.
You don't find their bones or their bodies.
Of course, that wouldn't be so unusual.
You don't find bones and bodies of too many things out in the wilderness.
It takes care of itself.
It cleans up itself.
Gotcha.
I had a bear die on my farm, my ranch one time.
Got hit by a car or something and ran up into my property.
And I could run across it out there in the field.
And I looked at him and watched him.
And a year later, there's less and less.
And then there's nothing there.
You could never tell if he was ever there.
Wow.
Nature, nature cleans it up.
It's true.
But I think these things probably take care of their own because I think when they're in our 3D environment, they live by our 3D rules.
Makes sense.
They can bleed. They can breathe. They can poop. They can eat. They do all things we do.
I think when they have a young one, which they do breed.
When there is a young one, we had a little 9-inch track up there in the snow with an 18-inch track one time.
We recorded that voice too. That voice is on that book, the download I'm talking about.
Gotcha.
And you can hear a small voice, had a big voice coming down on it. That's the 9-Samara.
cry. And so I'm pretty sure when they have a young one, they have to keep it in this environment
until it learns more about how to trick humans or what are they to do. But I don't think they're
supposed to interfere with us. I don't think nothing's supposed to interfere with us. That's why,
unless something catastrophic is trying to happen. And that's what could be happening in these
days and times. Some aliens, I think, are going to appear.
if you get into biblical scriptures,
you talk about as it was in the days of Noah.
You've been in the days of Noah, what went on.
If we want to get wild,
they are appearing right now.
People are like,
people are seeing stuff and like they're appearing by
duke plants and like, dude,
that's crazy stuff, Ron.
It's all coming about.
We live in an interesting time.
I hope I'm around to see it longer
because it could happen any time.
For sure.
if the way the rush is doing it.
Just, you don't know how this is going to come out, but we've got to, we've got to claim peace somehow.
We've all got to get together and somehow make this better.
We don't want this planet to be destroyed, neither do you're alien.
So I think they're going to probably step in and stop something.
That's my opinion on that.
That's kind of way out there a little bit, but they will interfere if we're going to destroy this planet like
like it happened with computer bombing
and stuff. So
they don't want that to happen more than we do.
Exactly. It's peaceful
many people anyway.
So I think
really the takeaway is
everyone stop being
just be a nicer
person. Raise yourself
up, you know? It makes you feel better about
everything, you know? Yeah. Exactly.
Don't be a victim. Some of the people want to be a victim
Oh, I know, right. I know. I think Billy
Jolie wrote a song, you know, a victim of a circumstance.
well don't be a victim of circumstance you know just accept that is that's what you chose
somewhere in your karma of spiritual being that you needed that to learn how to
respond to it and learn learn how to respond to everything in a positive way
don't be the victim of anything and if you had it happen I say this too don't
there's no such thing as a as a loser you either win or you learn something I love
that I love that you have to learn
from all this, or you've got to have to repeat it.
That gets into multiple embodiments, which I think it's been thought about more and more
because it makes so much sense to me, and it makes sense in the whole picture that I've been
picking out of the sky.
Oh, man.
Oh, dude.
It feels like we barely scratched the surface, but we had a good shot.
Ron, I'm so thankful for you coming on tonight.
how can people keep best up to date with what you've got going on to you know i'm a little bit lazy
about posting where i'm speaking i got several little things lined up for this year at conferences
i just came out of washington i flew back there for conference and i got to go to uh talent i think
it is going to hastings uh yeah aces next month and in between i do what i'm doing right now
I had a film here today doing that stuff.
Oh, cool.
Stay busy doing things and just this stuff.
This is all I do now.
I, unfortunately, in my life, have a lot of experiences,
and I did well in business to afford to the means to get around and do what I want to do.
And, you know, I've been a private, part of it on and own airplanes, final over.
Wow.
in this midfield phenomenon and interviewing people talking to people about what you what you find is there's a common
common denominator somewhere between all these different reports you can't just say those people are
crazy or that's no no there's something right about it and that you try to put it together with
sometimes an answer the answer that you know what the problems that happened with us up there
sometimes we thought our camp was being torn apart you you look at all our cans and barrels that we
haul up their mules you're strung out all the
while you look out there nothing's changed well how do you explain that stuff uh sometimes you know
just crazy things i talk about this my books but uh there's there's a scientific answer behind that
first of all these things are 20 minutes i messing with us and we didn't know that at the time we thought
man that's strange you just got to put it on itself because it doesn't make any quite right right
exactly in quantum world it makes sense you can figure it out because there's so much going on in
the quantum physics that it's just an exciting world of something that's something
your time with it.
But yeah, my stuff on my site is all downloadable.
And it's Ron Moorhead.10.com.
Fantastic.
Ron, Ronmorehead.com.
Yeah, you've got it.
That's, and definitely pick yourself up a copy.
Get the whole story for sure.
You got a little snippet of it tonight.
Get the whole story in the book from Ron for sure.
Again, Ron, thanks for coming on.
You're going to hang out a little bit longer.
We have an after show.
with some members of the Patreon
is going to ask you some questions
and I may have some questions,
some more questions on my own
if I have time to get them in.
But thanks again, Ron, for coming on.
Thank you.
Thank you. I appreciate you.
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