Bigfoot Society - 40 Years of Bigfoot in Southern Missouri!

Episode Date: January 9, 2025

Join host Jeremiah Byron from the Bigfoot Society podcast for an in-depth conversation with Tracy, a lifelong outdoorsman who has had numerous Bigfoot encounters across Southern Missouri over the span... of 40 years. Starting from his childhood home near Rolla, Missouri, Tracy shares intense stories of mysterious footprints, roaring sounds in the night, and strange interactions with an unseen creature. He recounts encounters at Montauk State Park, Taum Sauk Mountain, Howell County, and even a state park near St. Louis. With each tale, Tracy provides detailed descriptions of the geography and other local phenomena, painting a vivid picture of just how rich in mystery the Missouri wilderness can be. This episode is filled with chilling experiences that are bound to leave you questioning the existence of Bigfoot and the secrets lurking in Southern Missouri's wooded landscapes.🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: bigfootsociety@gmail.comWant to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 I like things my way, my coffee, my schedule, and my treatment. So I talk to my doctor about self-injecting with the Vivgard-Hytrullo pre-filled syringe, which contains F-Gartigamutalpha and high Lauranidase QVC. It's injected under your skin subcutaneously. It means I can inject in my space on my time. It's my treatment, my way. Visit Vivgardmyway.com. That's V-Y-V-V-G-A-R-T-My-Way.com.
Starting point is 00:00:26 And talk to your doctor about Vivgard Hytrullo, brought to you by our geniect. Wellness looks different at every stage. The right support makes all the difference. Power performance with vital proteins, advanced collagen peptides plus creatine. Designed to help build and maintain muscle mass in combination with resistance exercise. It also supports healthy hair, skin, and nails, strengthen beauty in one scoop. So you turn every day into a little time for women's wellness. Vital Proteins. Stay vital.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Visit VitalProtene's.com to get started. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease, in combination with resistance exercise. During Memorial Day at Lowe's, shop household must-haves for less. Save $80 on the Charbroil Performance Series 4-burner grill to chef up something special. Plus, get up to 45% off select major appliances to keep things fresh. Our best lineup is here at Lowe's.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Lowe's, we help, you save. Valid through 527, WALSupplies last. Selection varies by location. See Lose.com for details. Visit your nearby Lowe's on West Pico Boulevard in Los Angeles. Welcome to Bigfoot Society. If you have Bigfoot activity to report from the same areas discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode.
Starting point is 00:01:40 And if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. Do you wish there was more Bigfoot Society to listen to every week? Well, there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members-only episode every single week. on Wednesdays and sometimes even more episodes head on over to patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society and now let's get on with the show.
Starting point is 00:02:09 All right, Bigfoot Society, you've got the privilege of talking to Tracy tonight. He's a gentleman from down there in the great state of Missouri and I had seen him comment on a video and it was some really interesting things and so I reached out to him and said, hey, you want to come on the show and chat about what you've experienced. And it seems like we are in for a quite a wild ride. But Tracy, how's it going tonight, man? It's going very good. I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Yeah, just a little background on me. I've lived here in southern Missouri, pretty much my whole life. And a little bit about me, I studied geology in Springfield, Missouri, at the Missouri State University. And that'll be showing up in some of this. I can give a little bit of a geological background to some of the locations. because I theorize some things that I think about how some of these locations and potential Bigfoot cryptic sightings relate to that or whatever. So if you want me to get started. I love that.
Starting point is 00:03:13 And I'm actually really excited about that because that's the thing where I try to get that to come up. But usually the person I'm talking to is not trained like you are. So this is going to be really cool. But yeah, Tracy, go ahead. Feel free to launch right into it. Also, on some of these, I might even get into some psychology, basically how the siding, or I didn't really have a siding, but how the whole experience affected me psychologically and let me thinking about it for a while. But to begin, when I was six years old, my family, we lived in Rala, Missouri, which is on I-44, about halfway between St. Louis and Springfield, Missouri. And we moved from the city in December of 1977 out into the country close by a few miles outside of town.
Starting point is 00:04:08 And the night we moved in December, it snowed and left like a few inches of snow the next morning. And my sister told me this. They kept it hidden for me since I was only six years old. But my sister told me this later that there were footprints that came up. out of our backyard, which was woods in our backyard, came up around the house, actually stepped up in a little garden. You got those little gardens in front of your flower gardens in front of your house, stepped up on the timbers of that and looked in the window, which was my sister's bedroom window. She was asleep. She never knew it. But it stepped up and looked right in the window there
Starting point is 00:04:52 because that's the only, that whole side of the wall was windows. So that's what you would step up to do and then went on out across our front yard and crossed the road and went to the woods on the other side. That was like the first night we lived there, but I didn't know that. My sister told me that later. But anyway, I'm guessing on the year here, I'd say it was probably 1982. Me, my older sister, I'd had a younger sister at that point, which was an infinite, and my mother were all standing outside on our porch, we just had company and we were still out there talking and it was right when it was getting dark. And there was just this enormous roar that came from the woods behind our house. It was just like instantly terrifying.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Both me and my older sister just ran off and left our mom out on the front porch just ran inside. and which she complained about all the time after that. She just left me with a baby out there. But it was that just instantaneous fear. I'd never felt that before. I'd been scared before, but I've never just had something happening, just instantaneously, just fighter flight type thing, which in this case was flight.
Starting point is 00:06:14 But we went and looked out a window that went to the back and never saw anything. But I was an outdoorsy kid. and was out in the woods a lot. This is a generational thing. It would seem crazy today. But back in those days, fathers would train your son with guns and how to hunt.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Basically take care of your family. You could hunt for food or defend your family at a younger age. Even in my teenage years, I always had a 22 or a shotgun or something. I never really went out in the woods without a gun. and I think that's probably one of the reasons I never saw one of these things. Really, my whole life has reinforced the notion that they know what a gun is, probably because they've been shot or shot at or they just know what that does,
Starting point is 00:07:10 especially a long gun. And I'll get into a pistol later because I have an actual occurrence with one of those that's interesting. But I'm always out in the woods every day. There's not really much to do out in the country. We didn't get good TV reception. That was back in the antenna days. Not a lot of watching TVs. You're living out in the middle of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Then I'm just roaming the woods and stuff. I'd always described it. Like later talking with my older sister, I'd always describe that there would be days that I would go out in the woods and it's just, you know, nice sunny day. Everything seems great. And then other days you go out and there was just this hanging feeling of something, you know, a dread feeling in the woods. And I came to associate that with, I didn't know if what we were dealing with was Bigfoot or not.
Starting point is 00:08:08 But I knew there was something monstrous in the area. And just from that constant, it wasn't a constant thing. It was off and on. but I did have a friend that was my same age that lived down the road, I'd say maybe a half mile in a housing community of about 100 houses. And he was always talking about how there was a guy that there was trails through the woods behind there that he had seen Bigfoot out there in the woods. He'd gone down one of the trails and saw Bigfoot and then ran back and never would go out in the woods again.
Starting point is 00:08:49 And I was like, maybe that's what we're dealing with here. But anyway, over the time we lived at that house, which was from, I would say, 1977 to 1987, about 10 years, that was just ongoing all the time. And at one point, I was out in the woods that was adjacent to that housing community. There was a trail through there, and I was walking on that trail, and I met. my buddy that lived down there with, I would say, four or five other teenage kids that were just out there. So we just, by happenstance, met up and we're talking.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And all of a sudden we hear this like very deep kind of mournful howl. And it was coming from fairly close. And once again, that was just an immediate fighter flight kind of thing. We all just took off running back toward the – I was running away from my house, actually. I went to the trail toward the housing community, and then I did have a rifle, so I was like I didn't go – and basically a trail comes out into somebody's backyard, so I stayed in the woodline and just walked out to the road and walked back home on the road because I didn't want to go back through those woods. but I'd say the big thing that has really stuck in my mind was I'd say it was two or three years after hearing that roar.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I would have been like 14, 15 years old at the time probably, maybe 16. We had a pond right beside our house. I'd say it was probably a quarter to a half acre pond. And it wasn't on our property. but we used it all the time. It was absentee owners or whatever. And where we approached it on our property was just like our yard, which was semi-wooded. But about half of it was like very thickly covered, like with cedar trees and just dense brush.
Starting point is 00:10:58 You couldn't really see through that. And there was a house over on that side, but it was real thick woods through there, maybe about 50 yards. And that was behind that pie. was the general area I think that roar had come from. And then behind it, there's maybe a six, seven foot dam on that pond, like earth and dam. Then behind it was like about a five-acre lake. And I had gone through there quite a bit, but after we had heard that roar, I hadn't gone through there anymore because I figured that's where that roar had come from.
Starting point is 00:11:36 and I don't know, I was feeling cocky on this particular day or something, and I decided I would go back there. And I had a 22 pistol with me in my hand. I was always hunting rabbits or something. And while I was walking through there, I got about halfway. I never saw anything. I never heard anything. I just became paralyzed with fear. It was like my lizard brain just shut my body off.
Starting point is 00:12:08 And I've heard people talk about getting hit with infrasound. And a lot of times, and not paralyzing you, but a lot of times it comes with stomach cramps or something, I never felt any of that. I just couldn't move. And I don't know how long that went on for. I don't have any kind of estimate. but it got more intense and I felt like it was coming from behind me. Something was coming from behind me. And I just heard this voice that said, shoot the gun.
Starting point is 00:12:46 And I was able to click the safety off and pull the trigger. And the gun went off and pretty much immediately all that dissipated. the fear I was able to clear my head and move again, but I was mad at myself because I hadn't, I wasn't even able to look down to see if I was going to shoot myself in the foot or not. That's like how intense that that paralyization was. It's like I was really good on the firearm safety into things, but like I felt that I needed to do something and I just didn't have the ability to do it.
Starting point is 00:13:27 like what I would consider safely. But the firing of the gun made all that dissipate. And in thinking about that later, I felt like something was doing that to me. And once I fired the gun, it scared it off because it was like an immediate dissipation of what was going on. And I hurried up and got out of there and never went back there again. But I always thought the psychology of what happened.
Starting point is 00:13:57 there was interesting because I was very logical-minded even as a teenager. And for your brain to tell you, don't move, which is the signal I was getting, don't move or it'll see you. When you're completely out in the open, like anything can see you is weird to me. But that was what was going on. My brain was saying, don't move or it'll see you. But I'm like not obscured in any way. That almost tells me that these things have some sort of, and I don't know if it's in for sound, but I almost theorize they have some sort of other ability, like a mental energy prediction or something like that that they can do. And I've got more on that later. But that's the end of what I had for that location.
Starting point is 00:14:46 We had moved in closer to town, and I didn't really have any more experiences like that until about 2006. Talk about those childhood years for a little bit longer. There's some really interesting things that happen in those years for sure. Did they tell you how big that footprint it was that they saw right outside the window? They were just going from memory, but I did ask. I said, I was like, did it have boots on? Was it like a guy? And they said, no, it was barefooted.
Starting point is 00:15:24 I asked how many toes. and my sister was just like, I guess five. So it really wasn't like really set in the memory. It was just the general. But I was like, was it big? And she was like, oh, yeah. She said my dad had gone out and put his foot in it. And it was like pretty much dwarfed it.
Starting point is 00:15:44 And it wasn't like it was an old print. It had to have happened overnight. And I then asked, I was like, do you think, I was like, the snow wasn't that deep. But I was like, do you think it was. Do you think it could have been somebody with snow shoes on? Which snow shoes aren't really worn down here in Missouri. We don't really ever get that deep of snow, really.
Starting point is 00:16:04 So I was trying to at least get rid of all the possibilities. But it sounded like who's got a really big foot running around barefooted in the snow in the winter. Absolutely. That is so strange. Especially back then, you didn't have to worry about people that were wearing those vibram shoes. that it makes you look like barefooted, right? They were not around, I believe, at that time in history. Do you know if, do you still keep up to date with the area that house was in?
Starting point is 00:16:37 No, I don't have, when we're in the area, go buy it occasionally, just for old time's sake, memories. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeets World. Cat parents unite. We have to look out for each other. Yes, we all know the feeling of being ignored by our little babies a little too well. Yeah, I often wonder to myself, does my cat even love me?
Starting point is 00:17:09 Well, there's only one solution to solve that. Sheba. Feed your cat, Sheba, and go from feeling ignored to truly adored in 12 days guaranteed or your money back. Sheba has a wide array of products, appetizers, entrees, treats, and even a kitten's menu that will win over even the pickiest eater. My cat bill is all about Sheba grilled. Just snap, peel, and serve for two. two gourmet servings and zero messy leftovers. He loves it. Licks it to the bowl. Its protein-rich formula is made with real chicken and seafood without artificial flavors,
Starting point is 00:17:41 preservatives, cornweed, or soy. So you can be sure your cat is getting the finest ingredients from around the world, but made right here in the USA. Spoil your fur babies and introduce them to the delicious delicacies of Shiba. To learn more, check out Shiba.com. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OBGYN recommended brand and the only one that you can find at all major retailers in all 50 U.S. States. There's no minimum age requirement and you don't need an ID to buy it.
Starting point is 00:18:19 You can order it through DoorDash and other major delivery platforms too. That's freedom to be. Use as directed. When energy dips, your reviving routine deserves more than a quick fix. Reach for vital proteins, collagen, and protein shaking chocolate. With 30 grams of protein and 10 grams of collagen peptides, it helps support healthy hair, skin, nails, and joints, and a smooth, ready-to-drink shake. So your afternoon reset actually sets you up for success.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Vital Proteins. Stay vital. Visit VitalProtene's.com and get started. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. My older sister lives in Pennsylvania now, and when she comes back, we might go by it. But now we live far away from it. So we've gone by it a few times over the years, but don't really know anything about what's going on,
Starting point is 00:19:19 other than the fact that a lot of people have moved in, so it's not nearly as, it's less sparsely populated than it used to be. Okay. That kind of makes me doubt that there's as much activity as there used to be. Stories like this are always fun where it's like you've had the activity at your childhood house, and you move away, and then the area grows up a little bit. Because there was a situation like this down in Alabama,
Starting point is 00:19:47 and the lady was like, it's grown up. There's no way it's still happening. And I talked to a researcher in the area, and he's like, I showed him the spot, and he still happens there every year to a year and a half. So it's like you never know, man. It's just. I know.
Starting point is 00:20:05 As I go through my experiences here, Like, my theories get blown out of the water like about half the time. Okay. Yeah. Another side note about the place there from that I had all the activity in the 80s was we also saw what I believe is another cryptid. Now, this isn't a paranormal cryptid. Okay. The black cat, black panther thing.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Oh, I'm not surprised. Yeah. Yeah, I saw that. And I got a really good look at. I actually looked through a rifle scope at it. I didn't have any intention of shooting it. That's the only thing I could just get. But it was only about 100 yards away and looked at it through a rifle scope.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And a lot of people say maybe that's one of these black pumas or conservation. Missouri Conservation will tell you that a black mountain lion only happens about one in a million genetically. This didn't look like either one of those. this essentially look like a house cat but the size of a German Shepherd. Wow. Yeah, it didn't have the musculature of the mountain lion or really thick like a jaguar. It just looked like a house cat, just really big. So, yeah, I got a really good.
Starting point is 00:21:29 I only saw it once, but my mother and younger sister saw it, I think, three times. they were just come and hang out in like a grassy field next to the property next to us. That's weird. Have you heard any other reports down in that area of similar creatures being seen since then? Not of the cat. And I don't really have a contact over there anymore or anything. But my parents, up until 2000, my mother passed away in 2015. And then my dad moved out of that area in 2017.
Starting point is 00:22:10 And in between that time, between 2015, 2017, my dad had sold a meal to a guy that, oh, I would say he lived maybe four or five miles straight line from that area. And he was always talking about these really big wolves that he saw. We're getting into the dogman subject here. But he would see these really big wolves, and they were just ridiculously fast. There's no wolf that runs that fast. He'd see him on a far hill. He's got like a out in cattle farming country. And also he said that there was an old man that lived out there by him that found, like he was driving into town, which would be Rala.
Starting point is 00:23:01 and he came across this just big furry thing in the road. Like it was huge. He didn't even know what it was like is this or just a really big bear or something. And he thought it had been hit and maybe was wounded. So he didn't want to get out of his car and he was going to hurry. So he like drove on into town. It was like a doctor's appointment or something. And he was like on the way back, I'll check it out.
Starting point is 00:23:28 See what it was. When he came back, it wasn't there anymore. So I was like, did something get hit and get up and get away? Or was that just some trickery it was pulling? Or who knows? It makes you wonder because, so if I'm looking at the right place, Rala is you've got Fort Leonard Wood over there, the Paddy Creek Wilderness.
Starting point is 00:23:51 You've got Mark Twain, National Forest, to the east. So it's right in the middle of some wild stuff. Oh, yeah. I've been all out through that national forest. and yeah, it's, there's some trout fishing out there. I got into trout fishing. I'll talk about that here in our next little segment because it was like camping and trout fishing that some of my occurrences happen at too. But yeah, Fort Leonardwood, there's always been like stories come up out of there of sightings by soldiers even.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Absolutely. They'll get stationed out overnight and just be freaked out by what was going on. and everything. So at that point, we moved into town. I graduated high school, ended up going off to college. I'm living in town. And I moved back to the area in 2000. I get a job at a small engineering company. And so my next occurrence is in 2006 in September. me and my friend Tom, it's the same guy that lived in the community that I was talking about earlier down the road from me. We've kind of lifetime friends. Our families had gone to church together, so we'd been, for instance, we were like four or five years old.
Starting point is 00:25:11 He got me into trout fishing, and I was into camping, so we just combined the two things. And so in September 2006, we take a two-day camp, trip and we go camping at Montauk State Park, which is in between Licking and Salem, which is south of Rala there. And that is the beginning of the current river here in Missouri, which is a pretty famous river. We didn't get to camp out at the state park because it's always full, a very popular place. So there was a little camp area down the road is like a. private campground, very poorly run, but it's just a field you could go pitch some tents in.
Starting point is 00:26:02 And so that property butted up against the Montauk State Forest. So I always like to go to the furthest corner, get back to the, get back as far in the woods as possible. There weren't any trees in the field, really, but like I wanted to get right up against the fence by the forest. and it's a really healthy forest there, the Montauk State Forest. Anyway, we do the standard camping thing. We both got like a separate tense and whatnot. And as soon as it got dark, I started hearing owls.
Starting point is 00:26:39 And at first I was like, wow, it was like, I hear a couple different ones. And then more and more keep popping in. I swear I was hearing like five different owls. And I was like, man, this is really healthy. forest, just got that many owls in it. And then I started thinking, that's odd to have that many owls in earshot. They're solitary hunters. I would think they would have a territory.
Starting point is 00:27:06 So I later found out that Bigfoot uses owl calls. I didn't know that at the time. I just thought it was really odd. But that they use owl calls to communicate at night, which makes sense because if you're trying to hide from something intelligently. like a human, you can't use like a blue jay call at night, or they're going to know something's so you got to use a bird that calls at night. So anyway, I was like, I thought that was interesting, but just really didn't give it any thought. So about three o'clock in the morning, I looked at a
Starting point is 00:27:41 watch. It was somewhere around three, just hear this shriek, just this piercing scream, come from probably, I don't know, quarter mile away or something like that. And I get up and literally come out of the tent because I want to see how many other campers. There was other campers there that woke up. And I saw a couple lights come on. There was RVs and stuff in there. But for the most part, nothing happening in the campground. And that shriek was just so loud that, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:19 it would have to make you think because what could that have been? I'm up for probably 15 minutes. Nothing happens. I go back in the tent, go to sleep. Probably 30 minutes later, I hear some noise, and then I hear my buddy zip out of his tent. And so I get out and I was like, what's going on? He's just had a bunch of deer run right behind me along the fence
Starting point is 00:28:46 inside the forest there. And I was like, huh, I was like, gear running at night. Usually they don't do that unless something's after them. That was pretty much all of that. But I remembered the owl thing
Starting point is 00:29:01 because I just thought that was so odd that there would be four or five owls just right there with an earshot and hooting so often. I was like, I would think an owl would fight for its hunting territory. There wouldn't be, you just hear one owl.
Starting point is 00:29:16 I've only heard one. one owl most of the time that I hear owls, it's just one. I don't think they're flocking birds. Yeah, that's really weird. Did they sound like the normal size owls as well, like the volume of it? It's hard to say because the volumes were different, almost like one was further back. They weren't all bunched right together, but that could have been a volume difference to, it's hard to say how close. If you go quieter, it makes you sound further away, whatever, but I didn't really notice weird tonality or like a tonality change. Like I've watched other Bigfoot channels that would talk about how if you listen real
Starting point is 00:29:58 close, you can hear a tonality change over time in the owl call when it's a Bigfoot. And I didn't really hear that, but I have heard that since at another location. But, and I'll get to that later. But did you have a question? Something that will get brought up sometimes is they'll say, it sounds like an owl, but it sounds like a 800-pound owl. It's like way too big. So nothing like that. No, nothing set me off other than just the number of them in like that close little area.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Gotcha. And at the time I didn't know I was into Bigfoot. Like I'd read a lot of sightings on BFRO. but I'd never come across the owl call being a bigfoot thing. I just thought it was curious that, and then it stuck in my mind, and then later when I heard that, I was like,
Starting point is 00:30:57 aha, then I put that as I heard that scream. There's not many things that can do that loud. And it just made me think, that's what we were dealing with. We're right, we're within 200 yards of the current river. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Which is, yeah. So it's really nice forest. a nice sized river right there. It's just perfect habitat for everything. How long was the scream that you heard? I'd say it went, it wasn't long. I'd say it maybe went a second and a half. Okay. It was more of a shriek, really. Yeah. It started high pitched and then came down and ended. That's really interesting. It's also interesting that a lot of, a few other people woke up in the campsite as well. And I expected more people to come outside and be like, what was that?
Starting point is 00:31:46 But I was the only one. I guess they were comfortable. And nobody in a tent came out, but I saw a couple lights come on and pull behind campers and stuff like that. And you've heard a fox before, right? I'm guessing you know what foxes. Yes. I'm like, yeah. Definitely not that.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Like I said, this was like at least a quarter mile away and was just really loud. Wow. Yeah. All right. That's why I was surprised more people didn't. come out. I was like, maybe they're just so sleepy. They're like, oh, for me to get out of my tent, it's got to be pretty, pretty bad. But anyway, same camp trip. So got up that morning, went trout fishing. When we were done there, I was like, I was like, where do you want to go next? And I was like,
Starting point is 00:32:33 why don't we go to Tomstock Mountain? That would have been the first time camping there for me. And I was like, let's go over there. So it's about a hundred mile drive. So we drove over there, set up camp. Now, their campground there, I've camped there a lot. And I've had other experiences there. And the one siding
Starting point is 00:32:51 that I've had, it's a weird siding. I can't say it's like a definite siding, but it was there also. And that's been more recently. But it's still September 2006, the campground there is
Starting point is 00:33:09 you go down a road and it does just a shallow S curve. On the left-hand side, there's about five campsites, and on the right-hand side, there's about 10. Go down to the end on the right-hand side. We're basically in one of the last campsites. Like I said, I always like to camp at the end, back by the woods, and get away from the middle of the people or whatever. And we set up camp, just do camp and stuff. Tomstock Mountain, and that's the highest point in Missouri. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.
Starting point is 00:33:48 This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeets World. Cat parents unite. We have to look out for each other. Yes, we all know the feeling of being ignored by our little babies a little too well. Yeah, I often wonder to myself, does my cat even love me? Well, there's only one solution to solve that. Sheba.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Feed your cat, Sheba, and go from feeling ignored to truly adored in 12 days, guarantees. or your money back. Sheba has a wide array of products, appetizers, entrees, treats, and even a kitten's menu that will win over even the pickiest eater. My cat Bill is all about Sheba grilled. Just snap, peel, and serve for two gourmet servings and zero messy leftovers. He loves it, licks it to the bowl. Its protein-rich formula is made with real chicken and seafood without artificial flavors, preservatives, cornweed, or soy. So you can be sure your cat is getting the finest ingredients from around the world, but made right here in the USA. Spoil your fur babies and introduce them to the delicious delicacies of Shiba.
Starting point is 00:34:54 To learn more, check out Shiba.com. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OBGYN recommended brand and the only one that you can find at all major retailers in all 50 U.S. states. There's no minimum age requirement and you don't need an ID to buy it. You can order it through DoorDash and other major delivery platforms too.
Starting point is 00:35:23 That's freedom to be. Use as directed. Wellness looks different at every stage. The right support makes all the difference. Elevate daily wellness with vital proteins advanced collagen plus colostrum and prebiotic fiber. This 3 in 1 blend supports radiant skin, gut health, and immune system wellness, designed to mix into room temperature or cold liquids. So you turn every day into a little time for women's wellness.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Vital proteins. Stay Vital. Visit VitalProteins.com to get starting. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease, in combination with resistance exercise. And you're in the St. Francis Mountains, and those are volcanic mountains. Basically, the mountains are made of volcanic rock, what's called a welded tough, which is basically volcanic material that comes out red hot, falls, and then more of it falls on top.
Starting point is 00:36:24 and the weight of that presses it all together while it's still hot. Very interesting. But there's also some granite and quite a bit of granite in the San Francis Mountains. And that's your basic two rock types there on Tomsock Mountain. But anyway, they're wooded mountains, 1770-some foot high, if I remember correctly, highest point in Missouri. So there's an overlook that's a couple hundred yards from the campground where they've cleared trees out and you can just look out over the rest of these mountains. They're not real high mountains, but it's like nubby Appalachian. And so I'm over at the overlook. And if you do the overlook at sunset,
Starting point is 00:37:08 you want to stay till it gets dark because colors change. It's really interesting. And so it's getting pretty dark when I start to walk back to the campground. And this is all along a gravel chat, Whitechette Road. And so I'm walking along and I'm, the gravel's crunching is about the only noise there is. And I just start hearing this like, kind of a low growl coming from my left, which there's about a clearing of about 10 foot off of the road to the woods
Starting point is 00:37:44 and it's mowed. And it's really thick, brushy stuff. I started hearing this growling. And I was like, that's not a coyote. I was like, so I'm thinking it's like, there's a dog up here or something like that or occasionally we get a regular wolf here in Missouri and stuff. So I was just like, I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:38:06 And so I like veer off of the road on the other sides like a semi-wooded like park area for just day use. I just fear away from the road and just walk through the park area to get away from that growling. and so I walk on down to the camp and I'm tired so I was like I ended up going in my tent taking a nap my buddy in his tent he's still up and around camp I wake up maybe three hours later and I go over he's in his and he's not asleep and I said something to him and he was like he's like did you hear did you hear what happened he's like do you hear that And I was like, I don't know, I was asleep. He said that there was this, like a tree fell over out in the woods,
Starting point is 00:38:59 and it was down by our campground across the road. So the campsites on that side of the road end probably 50, 70 yards back up towards the front. But since there's only five campgrounds there are campsites, and then we've got about 10 on this side. So directly across the road from us is just woods. And he said that a tree fell over. And then there was like a bunch of snapping of branches and stuff like that didn't seem to be affiliated with the tree.
Starting point is 00:39:36 And he said it freaked out pretty much all the campers in the campground. They were all like, these people have been partying and everything. And then they get all freaked out. I slept through the whole thing. but I was like, I started thinking about that and I was like, I got growled at by something up there and now we've got like this going on. And just thinking about two different occurrences happening within, it's almost like whatever was up there, just went through the woods down to my, I wouldn't say it would be able to follow me by sight, but went through the woods and then just started creating a ruckus. When you heard the growling, did it affect you in any way? Did you notice you started feeling weird or just you heard it?
Starting point is 00:40:22 No, I just thought it was weird because I couldn't like really fathom what it would be. I've camped up there where people's dogs come up there. They're usually just farm dogs that are roaming or whatever and they're usually really friendly and hungry. I knew it couldn't be a coyote. They don't go that deep. And so I was just like, be fuzzled. Wolves are pretty sporadic here in Missouri, so I was like, I could growl that low.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Here's the thing. With Tombsaw Mountain being volcanic rock, the Ozark Trail goes through there, which is a pretty long trail for hiking. It's the premier hiking trail here in Missouri. It goes through there, and right on their website, they tell you, as you're hyping through the St. Francis Mountains, to bring as many, bring whatever water filters, whatever you can, water purification, all of that stuff with you because water is pretty sporadic through there.
Starting point is 00:41:24 So I was thinking that if you're going to camp on Tomsog Mountain, you're probably not going to see Bigfoot there because they're usually associated with like large water bodies. There's more food sources there. And so I wasn't thinking Bigfoot. But I was like, that is big of the behavior, though. And anyway, that's the end of that one. It was just a couple of things. But how big was the tree that got pushed over?
Starting point is 00:41:52 I never saw it, but he said it was like a pretty big one. Okay. We didn't go out and investigate or anything. He just said, by the sound of it, it sounded like it was pretty big, which maybe it was a half-dead one or something like that, who knows. But he said it made quite a crash. And then there was limb snapping after that. You expect lens snapping.
Starting point is 00:42:12 as like the thing falls down or whatever. But he said after that there was like limb snapping and whatnot. Oh, that's interesting. And I was like, it's weird. Yeah. Are there a lot of missing persons cases that happen in that area? Or not really? No, I said, I do think that there's one that was mentioned in Politis's book.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Yeah. It's not really a national park area, but I think there was one there. But I don't really know much about the missing persons thing. but I was watching, and this has been years and years ago, but I think I watched something on cryptids on a channel, and somebody in the comments, they were talking about Dogman, and somebody put in the comments, Potosi is a town that's just north of there, maybe 40 miles or so,
Starting point is 00:43:06 and he said that he'd seen it twice around Potosi, Dogman, while he was fishing. I actually got a hold of him through email. I looked up, somehow I found his email address, and I emailed him and asked him more about it. Because here's a guy, like I know Potosi area from my own state that's seen him twice or whatever while he's fishing. I emailed him and had a conversation with him, and he said that both times he saw it at the same place, it was a buddy of his, had some property, had a good fishing pond on, and he went over there, and he saw one, and it scared him off, but he thought,
Starting point is 00:43:45 I've never seen one of these before, maybe he was just freak. So we went back and saw an even bigger one, which kind of got aggressive. He was able to get away. And so basically he was telling me, he's, I'm not going to quit fishing, but I went and bought a 500 Magnum handgun. Oh, wow. He said, I'm not going back out there without that. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:05 That's wild. That's cool. You tracked him down, so nice work. Yeah, yeah. but so that's it for that particular trip okay now that was september so 2006 october so the very next month and this is in howell county missouri which is west plains missouri's like your biggest town in that county it's down on the arkansas border a couple of my cousins both bought their own pieces of property adjoining property there both about 180 acres i think and so
Starting point is 00:44:40 they bought it for deer hunting, turkey hunting, all that. In October, I went down there to get it ready. It hadn't even been hunted yet, so they were putting up the lines and stuff like that. Stayed overnight, it's me, my dad, and the two cousins, the donut. And we stayed in one of the cousins' cabins. I'd say about midnight that night, I started hearing the whoops. I'd heard them on the internet thing
Starting point is 00:45:14 and I'd heard them on the internet but I'd never heard them in nature before but his cabin the properties are between two rivers another famous river here in Missouri the 11 point river is on one cousin's side and then the tributary to that's on the other side
Starting point is 00:45:33 and we were closer to the other tributary I can't remember the name of it right now his cabin was it was up this gentle sloping hill that comes up about 300 yards or so to his cabin and that's where I was hearing the whoops going down to the river on that slope and I think I made out three different ones at three different distances so it was like three of them just Kansas in that hillside and it went away and then it came back and then it went away again and then it came back so they were just going back and forth and there's a lot of it's a really good habitat lots of deer there and so i thought that was neat i've had a lot of stuff happen on that property but now let's see we're back to tomstock mountain again may of 2007 i decided to do a solo camp so i set up in that same campsite from the previous year september of 2006, but I'm by myself this time, and I get there, I set up camp.
Starting point is 00:46:45 There's no one else in the campsite. I see a tent set up, but there's no car there, and I walk by and look, and the doors open, there's nobody in the tent. I don't really know what's going on. I don't, as far as I know, nobody ever even showed up to the tent, which I didn't think was super unusual because that Ozark Trail goes not too far right behind that. And there will be people that hike that and then come in, set up their tent in the campground and maybe do some other hikes and come back to it or whatever. So I never ended up figuring out what happened with that.
Starting point is 00:47:26 There's just a tent with nobody in it. But otherwise, there's nobody in the whole campground. I'm the only one there. I remember, like, I was going to sleep on an air mattress. and I forgot the inflator. I had to blow that thing up by hand with my mouth. And usually I pick up the sticks and start a fire, but after doing that, I didn't even feel like it. Or generally I clean up my campground of all the twigs to start the fire with, and that's important for later.
Starting point is 00:47:57 That took up so much daylight that I'm having to use a lantern to cook at night, and I end up burning. I tried to make some kind of macaroni, cheese and I end up burning it. And so I only get about half of it. And the other half is stuck to this bowl, this metal bowl that I cooked it in. By the time I get that eat, I'm ready to go to bed. And I just, I knew I was going to get marauded by raccoons.
Starting point is 00:48:26 You do every time. But I left all that stuff out and I was just like, ah, they wake me up, no big deal. So sure enough, about midnight, the raccoons come by. they grab that bowl. Cheese unions just rattling around for 10 minutes or whatever. You know, that burned macaroni and cheese really puts out a stink, so I'm sure everything in the wood can smell it. Once all that's done, I go back to sleep.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Well, about 4 o'clock in the morning, I wake up to, I don't know how to explain it any other different than it. It sounds like a person walking. It's like bipedal footsteps. And once they get, close to my tent, they started, the twigs start snapping, the ones I didn't pick up to make a fire with. So these twigs start snapping, and I'm like, what is going on? It just gets closer, and then I feel my tent just come up off of the ground, like it kicked my tent at the corner. And not super
Starting point is 00:49:30 hard, but like enough to pull the steak out. And at that point, I was just like, oh, boy, what are we got here? So there was silence. I can always maintain my silence. And there's just silence, a little pause of about five seconds. And then I hear the footsteps start coming around. And I'm like, if it comes to the front of my tent, I have a gun. I was like, if this thing, whatever it is, a person, whatever, starts messing with me, it's going to be bad for them. Stops again. I may have made a little bit of a noise. stops again for a little bit, then I hear it going over and start messing with that bowl
Starting point is 00:50:12 and like other utensils I left out. And I was like, this isn't, everything ruins through your mind. What could this be? Is this another raccoon? And I was like, there's no way this is a raccoon snapping all these twigs walking on two feet or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:50:32 I'm up the rest of the night until daylight. And I get up. And I thought my cooler would have been gone through and everything wasn't. And in thinking about that afterwards, I was like, why wouldn't whatever this was raid my cooler? I think it smelled the burnt macaroni and cheese. And it just went for that. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Daniel Fischel.
Starting point is 00:51:06 And Ryder Strong from PodMeets World. Cat parents unite. We have to look out for each other. Yes, we all know the feeling of being. ignored by our little babies a little too well. Yeah, I often wonder to myself, does my cat even love me? Well, there's only one solution to solve that. Sheba. Feeds your cat, Sheba, and go from feeling ignored to truly adored in 12 days guaranteed or your money back. Sheba has a wide array of products, appetizers, entrees, treats, and even a kitten's menu that will win over even the pickiest eater.
Starting point is 00:51:37 My cat bill is all about Sheba grilled. Just snap, peel, and serve for two gourmet servings and zero messy leftovers. He loves it. Licks it to the bowl. Its protein-rich formula is made with real chicken and seafood without artificial flavors, preservatives, cornweed, or soy. So you can be sure your cat is getting the finest ingredients from around the world, but made right here in the USA. Spoil your fur babies and introduce them to the delicious delicacies of Shiba. To learn more, check out Shiba.com. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago.
Starting point is 00:52:11 It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OBGYN recommended brand and the only one that you can find at all major retailers in all 50 U.S. States. There's no minimum age requirement and you don't need an ID to buy it. You can order it through DoorDash and other major delivery platforms too. That's freedom to be. Use as directed. When energy dips, your reviving routine deserves more than a quick fix. Reach for vital proteins, collagen, and protein shaking chocolate. With 30 grams of protein and 10 grams of collagen peptides,
Starting point is 00:52:46 it helps support healthy hair, skin, nails, and joints, and a smooth, ready-to-drink shake. So your afternoon reset actually sets you up for success. Vital Proteins. Stay vital. Visit VitalProtene's.com and get started. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. What I do with my coolers is usually I don't do anything with them after I go camping
Starting point is 00:53:20 and they get a little nasty. So I bleach them out and real good. You use a lot of disinfectant on them. And I don't know, maybe it couldn't smell food in it because of that. I would think if it just knows what a cooler is by side, it would do that. But I don't guess this one did or whatever. But yeah, I'm pretty sure it was a big foot because the next morning I got up, I intended to do a hike, about a five-mile hike.
Starting point is 00:53:49 and I just felt I was like followed the whole way, at least down off of the mountain. I didn't feel like it followed me back up, but it went down into the valley that I went down into with me. I'm pretty sure because I just had that sneaky something's watching me feeling that whole time. And then not the way back. So that was a pretty intense thing to get your tent kicked. Oh, yeah. I don't know how I would, man, I don't think I could, that would be hard to deal with. Like, you're inside the tent, it gets kicked enough so that the steak starts to come out.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Dude, that's... Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I checked that the next morning. The steak was, like, up out of the ground, yeah. Did you see any footprints around or anything like that? No. The way they do their campsites there is they bring in a lot of sand and chipped up rock gravel. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:41 And so, no, not really. And it was, for May, it was dry. It did rain that morning. Like, my whole hike was dripped. on, but that's after the fact. But it really didn't rain enough to soften the ground for footprints anyway. But anyway, in November of 2000, I'm back in Howell County to the property again. So for a couple years, I'm just going, Tom'sog Mountain, Halal County is where I'm having my stuff.
Starting point is 00:55:12 We actually had footprints. I was working a job at the time, so I was only going on weekends. I went the first weekend. And I would talk about Bigfoot. I didn't really care. I'd get some guff over it. But I would talk about it. Anyway, I come back the second weekend.
Starting point is 00:55:30 And they're like, hey, one of the guys, one of my other cousins, he found four footprints over there. There's this little pond in the middle of the woods. There's like a little clay dam that somebody built. And I've created this little pond. It's not big, maybe 20 feet across, 25 feet across, something like that. and that year, one of my cousins works for U.S. forestry, actually, and he said that we were in a 50-year drought in that area at that time. So that made sense to me that a Bigfoot would come up to that little pond
Starting point is 00:56:06 because those rivers, both the rivers there are what's called, and here we're getting into the little geology here, are what's called losing streams, which means they're in limestone, and basically the rock under the river is so cavernous that unless there's enough flow to fill all of that up, it doesn't flow on the surface. So you have to have a pretty good rainfall at that point in the river. Now, on downstream, on the 11 point, there's some big, fairly good-sized springs that keep it flowing constantly. But there you'll end up, it's dry bed a lot of the time. So the animals aren't getting their water out of the rivers in times like that. There's little seep springs around.
Starting point is 00:56:57 They'll just create like a little five-foot pool or something. But anyway, we had footprints on this pond just up in the middle of the woods because that's where things were coming for their water. And so they told me that, and I was like, I was excited about it. So I was like, I'll go over there tonight. So it's probably like 10 at night. I grab a flashlight. I go over there.
Starting point is 00:57:20 I had no idea what to expect. I didn't have the right tools. Found out the next day I had to have a rake to rake the leaves off. The leaves had fallen in that week between the two weekends. But I go over there the night before, and it's pretty close to the driveway of my other cousin's cabin. and I'm walking down the gravel road, and as soon as I step off into the leaves, I hear something start to move,
Starting point is 00:57:51 just maybe 50 feet away from me. All I've got is like a little petzel headlamp, not particularly bright, and it's not even one of these, it wasn't even one of these newer ones with the, it's one of the old bulb kind. I'm like, I wonder what that is, I'm thinking maybe deer or something.
Starting point is 00:58:08 I take a few more cautious steps, and every step I took it took a step back away from me. And so I would advance a little bit, and then I would retreat a little bit, and it would do the same thing. If I move forward, it would move back, and then if I moved back, it would move forward again. And I'm like, what does this deal? You know, I'm over here looking for big foot footprints, and now I got a weird acting deal here. You know, I was figuring if it's a bear or a deer, they just see you, they take off, right? And so I've actually got like a radio, and I'm calling back to the guys.
Starting point is 00:58:44 I was like, I got something weird over here, which they think's hilarious. But anyway, I just, that goes on for a little bit, and then it just starts cracking branches. And the place was logged off, and that was the reason it was cheap enough to buy for hunting land. It had been logged off, so there's a lot of downed branches everywhere, which makes for good hunting land. There's a lot of cover for wildlife. this thing just starts grabbing branches and snapping them out. It's as loud as a shotgun going off. So I don't know how big the branches have to be to make that noise,
Starting point is 00:59:17 four inches, something like that. But it just starts doing that. And I was like, okay. I was like, I'll leave you alone. And I just book it back to the cabin. And so me and my cousin go over there the next day, and we drive over there, and we go up to look for the footprints and the leaves are over there.
Starting point is 00:59:38 So he's like, oh, we got to go back and get a rake. So we go get a rake, we'll rake them back. And there was four footprints. I know soils pretty good. I worked in a soils lab in engineering. And that clay was just the right consistency to just perfectly mold that foot. The only thing I didn't have was the end of the toes. The water had lapped up in probably an inch or less of toe had gotten lapped off.
Starting point is 01:00:04 but my cousin in a sense said that they planted those there, but I know that's not true because here's what told me these were real footprints. That thing squatted down. It's got a big toe that's very separated from the other toes. These footprints were about 15.5 inches long, six inches wide where the ball of the foot would be. I imagine that thing kind of squatting down and as you lean forward maybe to cup some water like if you think about it your foot your weight gets distributed to the front of your foot
Starting point is 01:00:46 that soil curled up in between all those toes especially the big toe the big gap so there can you imagine you what I'm talking about oh yeah absolutely that sounds awesome yeah that soil curled up in between those toes. And that was preserved there. And I was like, there's no way that it's like some wood carve out hoax thing. It's like that was a dynamic foot that did that. And so there was two footprints like that. And then it like stepped over its own foot with its right foot, stepped over it,
Starting point is 01:01:25 not to step out into the water to go along the bank. And there was two more kind of, weren't nearly as good, but along the bank. So, yeah, there's four footprints there. And I got pictures of them. I couldn't find my camera, but my dad's camera, I got pictures of them, but somehow in the processing, they got deleted. So I didn't end up with the pictures.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Oh, man. Yep. Oh, that's too bad. I know. It's like just one of those things. But, so, but yeah, those were just beautiful. If those could have been plaster casted, there had been so much detail in those because it was in one substrate. A lot of these things, there's gravel in them, sticks, and all that.
Starting point is 01:02:11 It was just perfect red clay that those were in. But I know there's Bigfoot there now. I've seen the, I've had the experiences with them. I've heard the whoops. I've seen the footprints. And so anyway, yeah, that was in November 2007. So in the summer of 2008, me and my buddy Tom, the guy, the same guy I've been talking about this whole time, we decided to go camping at Washington State Park, which is about 12 miles north of Potosi, the town I was just talking about. It's actually in Washington County. That's why it's called Washington State Park.
Starting point is 01:02:54 We pull in there, and we're not in a big hurry to set up. the tent. We just got one tent this time, one big tent. We're not in a big hurry. As dust starts to come around, the big river is a river that goes through the state park there, and it's just down the hill from us. As it starts to get dusk, I start to hear wood knocks, which I had never heard before. I'd read about them, but I'd never heard them, but like very obviously, and probably I would say three different places they were coming from all around us. Because we're on a ridge that is downhill on all three sides. And I think the river kind of contours around that ridge.
Starting point is 01:03:39 We couldn't go exploring because they'd had a storm like the previous year. There's trails, but the trails were closed because they hadn't been able to clean up all the broken limbs that were still hanging up in the trees. So I always like to go exploring, but we couldn't do it because of that because they closed the trails because they were afraid limbs would fall out and hurt somebody. But anyway, yeah, I started hearing these wood knocks, and I just become so fascinated with it. We had a thunderstorm like riding up on us, and we just become so fascinated with it. It starts raining on us, and we didn't ever put the tent up. We just went back home because we didn't, you can't put a tent up in the rain and not expect to have a wet night.
Starting point is 01:04:21 So, but the interesting thing about Washington State Park is there's Native American rock carvings there. I don't know if you call that petroglyphs. Yeah, yeah, I think you, I think, yeah, I think, yeah, I think, yeah, I think, yeah, I think, yeah, I think, yeah, so it's in limestone. So it's not like some of the red rock ones that you see out west. Okay. They're hard to, they're hard to make out, but like, the park service there will chalk line them for people. they'll draw them and chalk. The two interesting things,
Starting point is 01:04:53 there are several things that they were wanting to communicate. And I think these are probably as old as, I want to say between four and 900 years old, the state archaeologists, I had a card that had all that information on it one time, like a postcard that they put it on. But there were drawings of thunderbirds, and then there was several feet,
Starting point is 01:05:19 which the archaeologist interpreted as the natives' feet, despite them being flat-footed and foretoed. Really? Yeah. So I was like, I don't, if you're going to carve something and rock, I think you are going to put the effort in to get it accurate. So I don't know why you would make a weird, your own foot look weird. Four-toes and flat-footed.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Yeah. So that's pretty good indication. that they were seeing these same things 100 years ago. Yeah. So that's what's neat about the Washington State Park. They've got that. There's not a lot of that in Missouri with the petroglyphs, but yeah, there's a nice little area there.
Starting point is 01:06:05 See, the wood knocks that you heard in that park, was there like a pattern to them at all? Yeah, I'd say you'd hear, they would do more than one from the same location. and then there'd be a pause, and I can't really say how long the pause was. It wasn't long. It might be 20 seconds or something like that. And then you'd hear them in this other location.
Starting point is 01:06:33 And then a further, like I said, we're out on this peninsula-type ridge. Yeah. And they were coming from like the three sides. So it was almost like we were surrounded on the three sides. And like I said, like it's downhill to the river on all three sides. There's like a river goes around that and bend. And so, yeah, they were downhill from us.
Starting point is 01:06:59 So, yeah, it varied. But like I'd say, there'd be 10 to 20 seconds between them or something like that. Interesting. That, yeah, that whole, that Washington State Park, it definitely has, that river has some interesting curves to it. And they always say to look for those curves. Interesting little fact about the Big River is that there's very little fish in there. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Daniel Fischel.
Starting point is 01:07:39 And Ryder Strong from PodMeets World. Cat parents unite. We have to look out for each other. Yes, we all know the feeling of being ignored by our little babies a little too well. Yeah, I often wonder to myself, does my cat even love me? Well, there's only one solution to solve that. Sheba. Feed your cat Sheba and go from feeling ignored to truly adored in 12 days guaranteed or your money back.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Sheba has a wide array of products, appetizers, entrees, treats, and even a kitten's menu that will win over even the pickiest eater. My cat bill is all about Sheba grilled. Just snap, peel, and serve for two gourmet servings and zero messy leftovers. He loves it. Licks it to the bowl. Its protein-rich formula is made with real chicken and seafood without artificial flavors, preservatives, corn wheat, or soy. So you can be sure your cat is getting the finest ingredients from around the world, but made right here in the USA. Spoil your fur babies and introduce them to the delicious delicacies of Shiba.
Starting point is 01:08:37 To learn more, check out Shiba.com. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by 10%. temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OBGYN recommended brand and the only one that you can find at all major retailers in all 50 U.S. states.
Starting point is 01:08:59 There's no minimum age requirement and you don't need an ID to buy it. You can order it through DoorDash and other major delivery platforms too. That's freedom to be. Use as directed. Wellness looks different at every stage. The right support makes all the difference.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Power performance with vital proteins advanced collagen peptides plus creatine. Designed to help build and maintain muscle mass in combination with resistance exercise. It also supports healthy hair, skin, and nails, strength and beauty in one scoop. So your inner harmony works with your outer wellness.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Vital Proteins. Stay vital. Visit VitalProtenes.com to get started. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease in combination with resistance exercise. Very few fish because of mining activity
Starting point is 01:09:51 in the St. Francis Mountains from like 100 years ago. There wasn't really any mining regulations back then. They would take their mine tailing, and just pile them. And the rock, this volcanic rock, geologists call it acid rock, this particular kind, because when it rains on it, it creates kind of an acidic solution. And what they're mining is lead is the main thing.
Starting point is 01:10:21 The lead belt here in Missouri is the biggest one in the world. But there's other minerals in it. So basically what got leased out, the main two. things that got leached out of that rock and ran off into tributaries and eventually ended up in the big river was lead and zinc. Fish can tolerate lead, but they can't tolerate zinc. So the zinc killed the fish, which it sounds like an environmental disaster, but I guess the one good thing you can think about was the fish, since they can tolerate lead, they build it up. And if you caught that fish, you'd be getting lead, but it died. So that kept any of the,
Starting point is 01:11:00 from eating those fish and getting lead poisoning. That's a good point. Wow, that's wild. Yeah. But, you know, you think about Bigfoot being close the river because there's like a lot of fish and stuff like that. But I guess they go for other things there because I fished in the big river before I knew that.
Starting point is 01:11:22 I never caught anything. Of course, I don't know how far downstream that is effective. You're quite a ways downstream. at Washington State Park. I've never fished there, so I don't know. But anyway, the next thing I have is same year, 2008 November, I'm deer hunting in Hallow County again, and it's at the end of the season.
Starting point is 01:11:46 This was very disturbing to me. I don't think this was Bigfoot, but it's at the end of the season. It's just me and my cousin on the property, and I decide to, I go out, in the morning or no i went out in the afternoon it was afternoon toward the front of the property and i'm just being lazy i just was like i'm just going to sit in the chair this chair up the hill and there's like a draw that they run through but it's very a lot of small trees so you can't
Starting point is 01:12:22 they can't see you you can't see them until they come out at this point and i was like i'm just going to hunt this so i get there about one in the afternoon I'm just sitting in a, you know, a chair and overlooking this. Well, I'd say about three o'clock I'm sitting there, Sunday day, blue skies. I just started getting this like feeling. This was literally like a projection of emotion. And it was hatred, like very intense anger, hatred. and it wasn't like what I felt back when I was talking about being paralyzed.
Starting point is 01:13:05 It was different from that. It was very powerful and so much so that like when I was talking about earlier about being paralyzed by something, I knew the general direction. I felt like it was coming from something was coming from behind me. This had a vector to it. I knew exactly where it was coming from. Exactly. It was like I was getting raid with this.
Starting point is 01:13:36 And I lifted my rifle because I wanted to look. It was a little dark piece of woods and where I felt it coming from. So I wanted to look through my scope, see if I could see something. I never saw anything. But that went on for probably a good minute. And very unsettling. So I didn't get scared. I didn't get intimidated off because I've got a high-powered rifle.
Starting point is 01:14:02 And so I was just like, I'm going to sit here and see what happens. I know Bigfoot's on the, I kind of attributed it to Bigfoot because I was like, I know they're here. I've seen the evidence. So I was like, yeah, it's just mad at me. I'll just get out of here and not come back over here, was my thinking. But it was like, I'm not going to leave right now. So it comes 430. it's getting dark by five
Starting point is 01:14:27 and I'm like, I'm not going to wait till dark here. I'm just, I want to be able to get back to the cabin while it's like, it's probably a good 400 yard walk back to the cabin. So I take off, but I'm so ill at ease that like
Starting point is 01:14:44 every 30 or so steps I'll look and check my six. I want to see if something's following me up. So it's like that the whole way back. I get back to the cabin. the sun's just starting to set. As soon as I stepped into the, like, I have to go through woods, but it's a road. I'm walking along the road that whole way.
Starting point is 01:15:07 But the cabin's in a big clearing. As soon as I stepped into that clearing, I was like, I'm just thinking of myself, hi, you didn't get me, right? And as soon as that happens, I just hear this howl. And I knew it wasn't a coyote. There's lots of coyotes around here, hear them all time. It just sounded like a normal wolf. I would say it wasn't any louder than a normal wolf.
Starting point is 01:15:34 But definitely not a coyote or anything smaller. And I was like, and it was probably halfway from where I was to me at that point. So it was like 400 yards. It had closed 200 yards. I'm assuming what Howell was also what was. messing with me over there. I was like, I'm just going to go in the cabin and not come out. I want in the cabin, had dinner, whatever. So it's 5 o'clock. My cousin comes in. There's no electricity to the cabin, so you're just like by lantern light and everything. And so usually you go
Starting point is 01:16:12 to bed early. So about 7.30, I've got to take a peeve. So basically, I just step out onto the front porch, which is just a foot above the ground or whatever. And like right there by the door, there's no porch just to the right. So that's where everybody pees and ends up stinking after all. So I'm peeing, and it is just pitch dark out there. I literally couldn't see my hand in front of my face. Like literally, I did that. I, like, shook my hand in front of my face like a foot.
Starting point is 01:16:45 Couldn't see it. I thought, well, it must be a new moon. I didn't know what moon cycle we were in, but it must be a new moon or something. and before I'm even done, I start hearing this, something's trotting toward me. The grass grows up to two and a half feet there. I can hear it coming from a ways away. And it's just this, it's not a fast run. It's just this very confident, steady-paced trot.
Starting point is 01:17:13 And so I was finished, and I just slipped back into door and close because that is a weird feeling. When you don't know what it is, it's pitch dark. and something's coming toward you and you don't know what it is. It could have just been, you think maybe it's just a beagle or something, but it was bigger than that, of course. So I just slipped back in,
Starting point is 01:17:34 I'm like, especially after what it just happened two and a half hours ago. So I get back inside and I hear it jump onto the porch. And it comes over to the door and start scratching at the base of the door. with claws, just scratching the door. And that goes on for, I'm going to say, 30 to 45 seconds.
Starting point is 01:18:05 It's just trying to dig through the bottom of the door. And my cousin's on the phone talking to his girlfriend on his cell phone. And I kind of wave and get his attention. I was like, you hear this? And he, like, listens for a minute. And I can hear his girlfriend says, what is it? And he goes, our coyotes are just trying to do it. dig through the door and get us.
Starting point is 01:18:25 And he just laughs it off. But anyway, he gets off the phone, like right after that. We get a flashlight go over, look out there, nothing there anymore. So I'm like, okay, that's the end of it. So we go to bed about 8 o'clock. I wake up about 2 in the morning, got to pee again. And I'm like, I'm going out on the back porch this time. The back porch is higher off the ground.
Starting point is 01:18:52 You got about two and a half feet. And I'm taking a headlamp and a pistol this time. So I go out and now there's light. It's like there must have been heavy cloud cover, but there is a moon and you got some ambient light. As soon as I come out and start doing my business, I hear something over in the wood line, which is, I don't know, 50 yards away from the cabin at that point,
Starting point is 01:19:21 get up and start coming my way. And I'm like, this thing is still here trying to get me. It's just stalking me. And so I can see it. It's on four legs, it's a dog, and it's about the size of a, I don't know, maybe a great Dane or something. Maybe a smaller, maybe not quite that tall. Maybe a big German shepherd or something. I can see it cutting through the grass as it's coming toward me in just the ambient light.
Starting point is 01:19:56 I haven't turned my light on yet. I wanted to get closer before I turn the light on. So finally it gets close. Maybe it's 30 yards away or so. And I have to twist that old pencil for it to come on. I twist it on, hit it, and it immediately side skirts. Super fast. But I got to see it for that little millisecond there was, I'd say it was like a brown color.
Starting point is 01:20:20 like a medium brown color but it's side skirts and so I look around and I go back inside and I'm so the next morning when I get up I'm like on full alert is this thing still out there and I never had an encounter with it again
Starting point is 01:20:35 but that was pretty intense because it was like what was really disturbing to me was the fact that it just kept trying to get me it was like it would fail and it would just wait for another time it'd wait another six hours just lay out there
Starting point is 01:20:51 and wait for me to come back out again. Oh, I agree. It's the patience that takes for something that I'm just going to camp out here because he's got to come out eventually. That's... Exactly. So I've always, after that experience,
Starting point is 01:21:06 Ben, like, it got to the point where, like, my first big foot experience there with the breaking of the branches, I was like, it's just warning you to take off, buddy. And I was like, sure. I've never really been afraid of the big foot there. But this thing has had me ill at ease over there ever since because it's like, it's wanting you. If it's willing to sit there and wait for you for hours and hours to come out, it's got bad intent.
Starting point is 01:21:33 But yeah, in 2000, I've got a note here that I remember in 2012, so this is four years later. Another hunter that I hunted with there, I think there was about four of us. We're just standing out in front of the cabinet. It's the middle of the day. maybe one in the afternoon or something, and we're just talking, BS, and I see him, like, look over, and I look at him and I can tell, like, something's wrong. I was like, what's going on?
Starting point is 01:22:02 And he goes, I just saw something down there. And he's looking down a road. It's not the road that I had walked in on. It's like the road goes further. It goes in front of the cabin and goes further on out the other direction. He goes, I just saw something come out of the woods down there. And I was like, what do you think it was? And I'm thinking it's like, we'd had a black bear on the property.
Starting point is 01:22:25 So I'd think he's like, it was black and it was big. And I was like, was it a black bear? I was like, because we had one of those here, you know, a couple years ago. And he's like, it wasn't a bear. And then I kept asking questions on it and he just refused to talk about it anymore. That's always made me wonder what he saw. He said it just stepped out of the woods. and looked at us and just went back in.
Starting point is 01:22:49 But he didn't even say if it was on two legs or four legs or anything like that. He wouldn't talk about it anymore. And this is clamped up. This is also on your cousin's property? Yes. Yeah, same cabin and everything. Yeah. It was like right in front of our cabin.
Starting point is 01:23:03 Yeah. So my next one is in 2011. And this is where my parents live. This happened where my parents lived. The first property I talked about when I was a teenager, we moved into town for about three years and then we moved out to this location and they lived there for, let's see, 17 years or so. So this is 2011, October.
Starting point is 01:23:28 This is the only thing that ever happened there, but this is a really interesting one. I think about it a lot, even to this day. And I remember when it happened because it was the night of the seventh game of the World Series when the St. Louis Cardinals won the World Series. October 2011. And the situation was my parents kept some chickens. We had a chicken pin
Starting point is 01:23:54 and we had raccoons were just constantly marauding the thing, killing the chickens. Those things can get in like little squeeze spaces you wouldn't believe. We weren't sure what it was that was killing this time
Starting point is 01:24:10 because it was grabbing stuff during the day. Because we'd open the chicken pin and just leave the door open until they went back in for the night and then closed it. It was going in and grabbing them during the day. And we'd lost about three chickens. The last one it got, it had pulled out of the chicken house and drug it over to the fence. And it got caught in the fence. My dad had mules that he liked to let out in the yard.
Starting point is 01:24:37 So he had the whole thing fenced in with that fencing that's got the wire rectangles that are, I forget what you call that stuff, but you can't even fit a chicken through it. So whatever dragged the chicken over there, the chicken got stuck in the fence and was dead. Those raccoons like will rip the chicken's heads off. And it was like that stuck in the fence. So I was like, I'm going to stake this chicken out and see if this thing comes back for it. So I did that till dusk and nothing came back. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.
Starting point is 01:25:15 This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeets World. Cat parents unite. We have to look out for each other. Yes, we all know the feeling of being ignored by our little babies a little too well. Yeah, I often wonder to myself, does my cat even love me? Well, there's only one solution to solve that. Sheba. Feed your cat, Sheba and go from feeling ignored to truly adored in 12 days guaranteed or your money back.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Sheba has a wide array of products, appetizers, entrees, treats, and even a kitten's menu that will win over even the pickiest eater. My cat Bill is all about Sheba grilled. Just snap, peel, and serve for two gourmet servings and zero messy leftovers. He loves it. Licks it to the bowl. Its protein-rich formula is made with real chicken and seafood without artificial flavors, preservatives, cornweed, or soy. So you can be sure your cat is getting the finest ingredients from around the world, but made right here in the USA. Spoil your fur babies and introduce them to the delicious delicacies of Shiba. To learn more, check out Shiba.com.
Starting point is 01:26:24 Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OB-BGYN recommended brand, and the only one that you can find at all major retailers in all 50 U.S. states. There's no minimum age requirement and you don't need an ID to buy it. You can order it through DoorDash and other major delivery platforms too. That's freedom to be.
Starting point is 01:26:52 Use as directed. When energy dips, your reviving routine deserves more than a quick fix. Reach for vital proteins, collagen, and protein shaking chocolate. With 30 grams of protein and 10 grams of collagen peptides, it helps support healthy hair, skin, nails, and joints, and a smooth, ready-to-drink shake. So your afternoon reset actually sets you up for success. Vital Proteins. Stay vital. Visit VitalProtenes.com and get started.
Starting point is 01:27:14 These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. So then I went in and watched the game. It didn't get over until about 11 at night. And so I was like, I was staying there in, like, they had a little guest house. And I was like, I'm just going to stay at night here. So I was like, I'm going to go see what happened with that chicken, if something came back for it or not. And I go out there, and my dad always says, wherever he lives, he doesn't.
Starting point is 01:27:59 all kinds of buildings on the place. So there's like a corral for a little building that he stores stuff in. I'm in between that and then a bigger building for more storage. And then there's the mule barn, which isn't like a regular size barn. It's a fairly small barn. It's on the other side. And that's right by the fence. So I got to go in between these two buildings to where this is.
Starting point is 01:28:26 and as soon as I turn the corner on that building and start walking up, it's just a 15 feet on back to the fence. I hear rustling. So I'm like, oh, okay, whatever's killing the chickens is right here. I walk on up, I've got a bright flashlight, 12-gauge shotgun. I don't see anything. The chicken's still stuck in the fence like it was, but there's something sizable there.
Starting point is 01:28:55 So I walk on up and I keep hearing like little noises. And I realize that whatever on the other side of the fence is probably two and a half foot tall weed, fescueish grass, weeds, stuff like that. I realize whatever has dug down in that. And so I come up right like I'm right with the fence. I'm shining my flashlight over and I'm not seeing anything. and but I keep hearing it move and this gets creepy because I would I basically realized that whatever this was had laid down flat and was at least as long as me because I would hear a hand
Starting point is 01:29:42 move and make a little bleaf noise and then I'd hear over here a foot kind of adjust and make a leaf noise and then a hand or elbow noise up here and like I heard about three or four adjustments from like hands, arms and feet type thing. And I was like, this thing's at least six foot long and I can't see it. I literally stuck my flashlight over the fence and never saw any. I could have seen my cat. But whatever the six foot long thing is, I can't see a thing. And I'm just confused.
Starting point is 01:30:20 I literally stood there for about five minutes. Just thinking, not another sound for probably the five minutes. And then out in the woods, this is what really got creepy, very sharp stick break, not something a deer would break off or anything like that, just walking through the woods. Just a very loud, not particularly loud, but very sharp stick break. and I had read enough Bigfoot encounters off of the BFRO
Starting point is 01:30:57 website I went on there and read hundreds of them just trying to glean information and that had been talked about quite a bit that when somebody sees one another one will make a noise
Starting point is 01:31:12 to distract you so that one can possibly get away this one was in a situation it wasn't going to get away but when I heard that stick break then I started getting worried about something coming from behind me with all those buildings in the way and everything so I got a little nervous but I stood there for a couple more minutes and then was just like I just got the feeling is this isn't what the problem is and I'm just going to leave it alone so I just walk on you could walk behind the big building that I was
Starting point is 01:31:44 by I just walked down the fence and I'm still shining my light and I shot my light up in the top of this tree, and there's this raccoon up there. And I was sure that was what was killing the chickens. So I also had a 22 pistol. So I shot that raccoon out of top of that tree, and it fell out of that tree and hit the ground and took off running, but I heard it stop out there,
Starting point is 01:32:11 just came to a stop died out there. So I was like, I'll go out there and get it in the morning. So I just went back, went to bed. Went out in the morning. I expected the chicken to be gone. The chicken was unmolested and still stuck in the fence. So I went over the fence, went out there. That property was like a business neighbor.
Starting point is 01:32:33 We knew really well. He didn't care if we went over there. I went out there, never did find that raccoon. Now, I can't say whatever that was got the raccoon, but it made me feel like it. That's what got it. But I also felt the whole reason, at one point I thought, was this a person and they were milling around and they just didn't want me? But I would have seen them.
Starting point is 01:32:59 There's no way I couldn't have seen them with that flashlight right over them. That grass wasn't so tall you couldn't. Like I said, I could have seen my cat, much less something the size of a human or bigger. But I guess why it was there is it probably smelled that dead chicken as what probably had brought it in there. So that was just a little weird thing. That's really the only thing that ever happened on that property. But that just told me they're around everywhere. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:33:28 Yeah, the stick breaks are what get me. I've experienced that out in the woods as well around campsites. Makes you take notice for sure. Yeah, especially when you've got something weird happening and then that happens. and you're like, okay, there's about a seven-year period where I've got nothing. I moved to another place, so I'm down here by Poplar Bluff, Missouri, living here now. And down at the state line, it's the Missouri-Arisaw State line, same county, Butler County that the Pompter Bluff is in. There's a conservation area called Big Cane Conservation Area.
Starting point is 01:34:12 and there's little campsites there. It's nothing like a state park or anything. It's just little fire rings and little pull-offs. But the woods there are really interesting. You're out of the Ozarks and into what a geologist would call the Mississippi embayment. It's most people around here just call it the flatland. And it all used to be very swampy woods. But it got turned into farmland, so the Army Corps of Engineers came in and dredged out,
Starting point is 01:34:42 drainage canals so that they could turn this into agricultural land. So there's very little of this swampy woodland around anymore. And so this Big Cane Conservation Area is like a little vestige of what used to be. And I'd say maybe there's a square mile of woods in Big Cane, but it connects to a larger area of woods that goes down to the Black River, which is about a mile away from probably the closest point at Big Cain. I didn't really know if there'd be Bigfoot there or not, and I just like camping, so I camped. And up in the middle of the night, it's a full-moon night. I don't really sleep that well on full-moon nights. And I get up in the middle of the night, and once again, here's, I've got multiple owls really close to me. I'd say 75,
Starting point is 01:35:37 50, 75 yards into the woods. And this time, they don't, it's almost like they got in an argument. Like I walk out, I'm still on a road. I'm not going to walk out into the swampy woods, like snakes and all kind of stuff there. But I walk along the road away from my campsite and get closer to it. And at some, they sounded like owls at first, but the closer I got, they started getting, like you said,
Starting point is 01:36:06 a 400-pound owl, and the actual tonality of it started getting screechy, not like a screech owl, but more monstrous sounding. And it actually sounded like there was an owl argument going on between probably three of these things. So I was just like, I stood there and just let it happen for a while, and then I was like, I'm just going back to the truck. I don't know where this is going to go. because at this point I'm camping out in a camper in a truck. So that was what I want to experience here in this county. But I've camped there two or three times, and that's the only time I've had them anything like that.
Starting point is 01:36:50 But I might be going back soon. But 2021 and July, we're back at Tomsock Mountain. Actually, I just camped out three nights in a row. I wasn't planning on camping at Tomsock Mountain, but I was fairly close by, and I was like, I haven't been over there in a while. So I decided to just drive up there. And this is in the early morning, probably 7.30 in the morning. And so I'm driving off the access road, which is from the highway you come off of, I think that road's about five miles long. and I'm probably within
Starting point is 01:37:32 three, four hundred yards of where you come to the campsite and I'm coming around it's an S curve it's gravel at this point and so you're making a right hand turn and then it will go back the other direction and this S curves
Starting point is 01:37:51 as I'm coming around my peripheral vision is seeing the other end of the curve where it curves back around and I never look directly at this, but I'm on my peripheral vision, not like far to the side, but fairly close peripheral vision. I see this big brown area right on the side of the road. And what my mind immediately thought was I'd been seeing them for the last three days, these big forestry signs. Yep, yeah. They're like huge and six foot across and brown, dark brown.
Starting point is 01:38:28 That's what my mind went to. That sign hadn't been there. I was like, oh, they got a new sign because there'd never been anything or like that. That's just what my mind instantly went to because I didn't look directly at it. I just saw that and I was like, I'm having to keep my eye on the curve because it's constantly turning. And so I don't look directly over there.
Starting point is 01:38:46 And I'm just thinking, oh, I'll see what that says when you get over there. At some point, I'm not looking at it at all. And this is just seconds. I get up there and there's nothing there. and I was like, I know I saw a big brown thing over here just less than 10 seconds ago. And I'm thinking, could this be a bear? Is it running right now? I got a small truck, so it's not very loud, a little toilet at Tacoma.
Starting point is 01:39:16 I get out and I listen, it's just the normal bug sounds or whatever, but I just don't hear any running of anything. I'm expecting like some crashing of a bear through the woods. and I'm just like, this doesn't make any sense because this thing was huge. Really, for it to be the size of that sign, that's bigger than bears. It's not really the right color for a black bear, even though I think they can be brown at one point in their development or whatever. But this was way bigger than black bears yet.
Starting point is 01:39:47 And I was just like, I don't know what the explanation would be to it, but I've had enough experiences over here to make me think I might have seen Bigfoot. It's a weird sighting because it's unsure. but that's my one siding of it if that's what it was oh man that's that is is wild though and i have i've just i've heard a few similar that's just that's really interesting yeah i've heard people talk about how bigfoot should be there and you just can't see it both the time with the chicken if that's what that was that's the only thing i can think it was because i would have seen like i said Looking through that grass, I could have been, I could have seen my cat.
Starting point is 01:40:33 But I know there's something big there. There's just nothing to see. And then this thing, I see it at one point. And then seconds later, there's nothing. I can't hear anything moving anywhere. And, yeah, I like listening to these shows because people say some stuff that, like, people that talk about, oh, this thing disappeared. I believe that because I've had experience.
Starting point is 01:41:00 is that's the only explanation I can come up with on several issues, but the infrasound and the disappearing. When you were in that area where you saw something and then it wasn't there, did you feel weird in any way or did you have anything going on like that? No, not. No, not at all. Didn't feel weird. It's just I felt weird because, just mentally, because it was like,
Starting point is 01:41:28 hey, I know something was just here and now it's not here. That's just nothing paranormal per se, but it's weird to be confused like that. But I went on up to the campground and drove through it. I almost had the urge to get out and tell campers that there might be a bear or something in the area, but there wasn't really many people up or anything. Like, I just felt that urge as like, hey, there's something big. I saw it down the road here. You might keep a heads up.
Starting point is 01:41:56 I didn't want to wake anybody up to do that. You never know on the campers. But anyway, my last thing here happened last June. And this happened at Quiver River State Park, which is the only one that's not in southern Missouri. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from Pod Meets World. Cat parents unite. We have to look out for each other.
Starting point is 01:42:36 Yes, we all know the feeling of being ignored by our little babies a little too well. Yeah, I often wonder to myself, does my cat even love me? Well, there's only one solution to solve that. Shiba. Feed your cat Shiba and go from feeling ignored to truly adored in 12 days guaranteed or your money back. Sheba has a wide array of products, appetizers, entrees, treats, and even a kitten's menu that will win over even the pickiest eater. My cat Bill is all about Shiba grilled. Just snap, peel, and serve for two gourmet servings and zero messy leftovers. He loves it. Licks it to the bowl.
Starting point is 01:43:12 Its protein-rich formula is made with real chicken and seafood without artificial flavors, preservatives, cornweed, or soy. So you can be sure your cat is getting the finest ingredients from around the world, but made right here in the USA. Spoil your fur babies and introduce them to the delicious delicacies of Shiba. To learn more, check out Shiba.com. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OBGYN recommended brand and the only one that you can find at all major retailers in all 50 U.S. states. There's no minimum age requirement and you don't need an ID to buy it.
Starting point is 01:43:54 You can order it through DoorDash and other major delivery platforms too. That's freedom to be. Use as directed. When energy dips, your reviving routine deserves more than a quick fix. Reach for vital proteins, collagen, and protein shaking chocolate. With 30 grams of protein and 10 grams of collagen peptides, it helps support healthy hair, skin, nails, and joints, and a smooth, ready-to-drink, shake. So your afternoon reset actually sets you up for success.
Starting point is 01:44:18 Vital Proteins. Stay vital. Visit VitalProtene.com and get started. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Quiver River is actually north of the Missouri River. It's close to a town called Troy, Missouri, which is, I'd say it's about 40 to 50 miles to the northwest of St. Louis. And basically what I'd done, I'd gone up to see my sister in Davenport, Iowa. And so I go right through Troy, Missouri, and going up there.
Starting point is 01:45:05 And I'd went up there for a few days, and this is interrelated. to the story. There was a new bakery that she was excited about there in town. And so she was like, we both have to eat gluten free because we have the food allergy with the gluten. And when you find a place that cooks that stuff pretty close to tasty, you go there. They made really good. She said they made really good breads. So I wanted a garlic cheese bread. And the day I was going back, I was going to leave about noon. And usually I leave earlier if I want to get all the way home. It's about eight-hour drive. But I was leaving about noon because I wanted to stop off and camp there at the Quiver River State Park. And they didn't open until 11. And so we got
Starting point is 01:45:52 it worked out where they would special bake that garlic cheese bread for me. When we got there and it just come out of the oven, usually they put it in plastic. They put it in a box instead because it was too hot to put in plastic. This is interval to the story. I just kept it in a box and I started home. And so I drove, yay. I probably got that Quiver River State Park about 5.30 or so. So I've got, it's June, so I got a couple hours of daylight. And so I cook some brats.
Starting point is 01:46:28 I got chips, just a basic dinner or whatever. And I've got that, I've got some other food. I never really leave anything out. I never really leave anything out. And something just rocked my truck. I never leave anything out. Yeah, I might be somebody messing with me. Wow.
Starting point is 01:46:53 Okay. Oh, it's my cat jumped up on it. Oh, nice. Yeah, as my cat. Anyway, so that garlic, I got some other food and that garlic cheese bread in the floorboard on the passenger side of my truck. And so I'm going to sleep in the bank. I'll keep my cooler back there with me. So I got everything tucked up, just firewood, and my lantern is all it's out.
Starting point is 01:47:18 And then I got like a Walmart bag. I'm using that as a trash bag. And all I've got is like aluminum cans and it. And I hung it on a really like branch so that a raccoon or anything can't go out on it. And I hang it high. It's like I'm six foot tall. It's like over my head. I pulled a branch down and tied it to it.
Starting point is 01:47:37 So I get in the back, I go to sleep, I wake up, I start hearing owls, about 1.30 in the morning. I check my watch. I'm hearing owls, but they're far off. The whole reason I wanted to camp here is there's a lot of bigfoot lower around this place. Okay. Probably seven, eight sidings or something like that on BFRO. Oh, wow. I've watched, yeah, I've watched the, I picked my camp somewhere. site, I'm down close to people, but I'm, there's quite a bit of, they're pretty good for a
Starting point is 01:48:15 state parking, like keeping like brush in between the campsite so you get a little privacy. So I'm like within probably a hundred yards or so, maybe just 80 yards or so, of probably three other campsites that are, and then there's a guy in a car kind of catty cornered across the road from me. He's not very far. He's probably 50 yards. So I go and I go to sleep, wake up about 1.30. I'm hearing owls. And I'm like, could this be, you know? And so I hear them moving around.
Starting point is 01:48:50 And I was like, I'm not sure if owls move around that much. And it's more than one. And so I'm thinking maybe something's going to happen. So I'm going to gozing in and out. Probably about 2 o'clock. That goes on for a while. probably about 2 o'clock right behind my campsite crunch just a bunch of wood just getting twisted just crunched apart like real loud and I'm like oh boy here we go and I'm thinking wow that's brazen this close to several people there's about a minute goes by and then all of a sudden just very intense whole leaf rustling, like right next to my truck.
Starting point is 01:49:38 I just hear this, and it just goes on for probably 20 seconds. And that had me confused because they raked up the campgrounds. I'm like, there's not any dried leaves out there in the campground. And this is like right next to my trunk in the campsite, right? Of course there's dry leaves out in the woods, but, and I didn't figure that one out to the next day. There was trees right there. It was shaking a tree.
Starting point is 01:50:06 right there next to my truck. And I realized right at that moment that it's testing me to see if I'm going to wake up or if I do wake up if I'm going to come out and do anything. I realized back over all the reason my tent got kicked back on Tomsock Mountain, why this thing's doing that. They're testing you to see if you're going to come out shooting or if you're going to wake up or whatever. They're testing it to see if they can go ahead and come in and do something.
Starting point is 01:50:33 And I woke up, but I just stayed quiet. That's what I do every time this happens, and nothing's ever happened to me. But at that point, it wasn't immediate, but I started hearing little things. I heard my cans get jingled a little bit in that bag I hung up. This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeets World. Cat parents unite. We have to look out.
Starting point is 01:51:03 for each other. Yes, we all know the feeling of being ignored by our little babies a little too well. Yeah, I often wonder to myself, does my cat even love me? Well, there's only one solution to solve that. Sheba. Feeds your cat, Sheba and go from feeling ignored to truly adored in 12 days guaranteed or your money back. Sheba has a wide array of products, appetizers, entrees, treats, and even a kitten's menu that will win over even the pickiest eater. My cat bill is all about Sheba grilled. Just snap, Peel and serve for two gourmet servings and zero messy leftovers. He loves it. Licks it to the bowl. Its protein-rich formula is made with real chicken and seafood
Starting point is 01:51:43 without artificial flavors, preservatives, cornweed, or soy. So you can be sure your cat is getting the finest ingredients from around the world, but made right here in the USA. Spoil your fur babies and introduce them to the delicious delicacies of Shiba. To learn more, check out Shiba.com. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option
Starting point is 01:52:07 that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OBGYN recommended brand and the only one that you can find at all major retailers in all 50 U.S. states. There's no minimum age requirement and you don't need an ID to buy it.
Starting point is 01:52:22 You can order it through DoorDash and other major delivery platforms too. That's freedom to be. Use as directed. Wellness looks different at every stage. The right support makes all the difference. Power performance with vital proteins, advanced collagen peptides plus creatine. Designed to help build and maintain muscle mass in combination with resistance exercise.
Starting point is 01:52:40 It also supports healthy hair, skin and nails, strength and beauty in one scoop. So you turn every day into a little time for women's wellness. Vital Proteins. Stay vital. Visit VitalProtene's.com to get started. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease, in combination with resistance exercise. And I think it came about fourth. I'm dozing back off even.
Starting point is 01:53:07 Like I'm relaxed. I think maybe they've moved on, dozing back off. And then I'll hear a little thump and else. I was like, they're still here. But I'm not like really stressing it. I think what makes me comfortable is the fact that other people around,
Starting point is 01:53:20 I know that they're not going to get crazy. They're being real cautious, even though they were loud with what they did. And anyway, about 4.30, I turn over, like I was getting sore resting on one side. I turned over and it shakes the truck a little bit. And I hear, it actually, I think I made that louder as it went. It was louder. Basically, it was five running steps away. It was like, like, doom, doom, doom, doom, boom, boom, like that, into the woods, which I've read stories about never heard, got to hear that,
Starting point is 01:54:03 but that just impressed me. I was like, how heavy do you have to be to make that sound? That was just like, it sounded like an elephant running off or something, you know. I was like, there's no way I could get out and try to make anything close to that. When daylight came, I got out, packed up, up and left looked around didn't that's when I figured out that he was shaking a tree because there wasn't any leaves on the ground or anything right there packed up left but in thinking about it what happened was I got home I ended up going down a gravel road and then on that
Starting point is 01:54:42 passenger side door I noticed some dust and I got to look in and it was fingerprints. Dust had like, from going down the gravel road, had landed and attached to fingerprints on my side door there. And I realized what they were doing. They had laid down next to my truck and the fingerprints were right at the crack where the front of the door is. They were smelling that garlic bread in the floorboard of my truck. And they were leaving, they left like a couple of handprints and some fingerprints. French right there on that door. Oh, my goodness. And I think that was going on when I turned over
Starting point is 01:55:28 and scared it and it ran off. Oh, wow. So that's all I've got. That's, till I go camping next time. You weren't kidding. 40 years. Some wild stuff, Tracy. Your cousins, do they still own that area? They do, yes. Wow. Is stuff still going on over there? Or do you not know? I don't go over there a lot. What ended up happening is the two cousins got in a feud. And that kind of ruined the fun times over there. So there's not as much nearly as much hunting activity human-wise going on over there to, yeah, that's why I haven't had anything recent. I still go over there, but I think it was why it was so wild in the beginning was there was so many people that there'd be 20 people on that 360 acres. Something will happen then,
Starting point is 01:56:21 but now maybe eight in a good year. And then you got people that, like, if they have something happen, they write it off. Oh, or just a raccoon or something. Exactly. You don't have the right type of people over there to realize what's going on. They're just not going to believe something like that. Exactly. Wow, Tracy, this interview has given me so many new locations to be aware of.
Starting point is 01:56:45 It's incredible. Yeah, most of these places at, never heard of before and it's extremely helpful i know there's a ton of stuff going on with southern missouri but it's great to know some areas to to look into for maybe future interviews and stuff how county knoblet lake i've been there once it you're out in the nowhere there oh you really it's it's part of the mark twain yeah it's part of the mark twain it's uh called uh that section mark twain's called uh the the devil's backbone wilderness Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:22 Wow. Okay, very interesting. So, yeah, that county definitely has stuff going on for sure. Yeah. And it's probably mainly because of an Oblet Lake is a pretty good-sized body water, and then you got the 11 point. But like I said, it befuzzled me because there's not a lot of times where it's like running there. It goes underground.
Starting point is 01:57:47 You need a rainfall for it to really run on the source. surface. So a lot of times when you go down there, it's just gravelly creek bed. Some pretty good sized rocks, but not much water, especially in the summer. That kind of, I was thinking, would you have big foot here like year round if it's like dry part of the time or whatever? But they make it work somehow. Crazy. Tracy, thank you so much for chatting with me and for sharing everything experienced over the years. It's been incredible. And keep me in mind if stuff does continue to happen to different places you're going. I would love to hear about it. No problem.
Starting point is 01:58:26 Yeah, I'll let you know if I hear anything else or see anything else. Awesome. Here at Bigfoot Society, our goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter in a safe and respected environment. But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. Then we can start the conversation. And I know a lot of you have not shared your encounter at all. It's been 20 years.
Starting point is 01:59:02 And it's time that you get this off your chest. And then you can get some well-deserved for rest because I know you haven't been sleeping. I understand what you're going through. And I appreciate every one of you listening. Bigfoot Society podcast hosted by our captains, Jeremiah Byron, where it's all Bigfoot all the time. Have you ever had the urge to do more, to be more?
Starting point is 01:59:28 Now you can by joining Bigfoot Society on the Patreon. Get ad-free episodes and even member-only episodes. Take part in movie night and even live video chats. Interact behind the scenes with Jeremiah and other Patreon members like me, Slaya. The powerful podcast goes on and you may contribute. be diverse in our Patreon community. Carpe Diem. Seize the day, Bigfooters, and make your lives extraordinary. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend.
Starting point is 02:00:08 Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much. Make sure that you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's all about sharing the show. wherever you can. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following or know someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com or pass on my email. Here's the list. These are all in Oregon, by the way. Oak Ridge, Dexter, Fall Creek, Deshute National Forest Area, Coltis Lake, Spirit Lake, Suttle Lake, McKinsey River area, Sweet Home Area, the area west of Crater Lake East of 230 West Diamond Lake Highway and north of 62 Crater Lake Highway.
Starting point is 02:00:56 You can use email Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. A special thank you to all the Bigfoot Society, Patreon and YouTube channel members. It's your support that helps keep the show going, and I extremely appreciate it. If you want to join in the fun, you can join over at patreon.com. forward slash the Bigfoot Society. I'll see you there. And again, thanks for listening.
Starting point is 02:01:21 This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeets World. Cat parents unite. We have to look out for each other. Yes, we all know the feeling of being ignored by our little babies a little too well. Yeah, I often wonder to myself, does my cat even love me? Well, there's only one solution to solve that. Sheba. Feed your cat, Sheba, and go from feeling ignored to truly adored in 12 days, guarantee. teed or your money back. Sheba has a wide array of products, appetizers, entrees, treats, and even a kitten's menu that will win over even the pickiest eater. My cat Bill is all about Sheba grilled. Just snap, peel, and serve for two gourmet servings and zero messy leftovers. He
Starting point is 02:02:02 loves it. Licks it to the bowl. Its protein-rich formula is made with real chicken and seafood without artificial flavors, preservatives, cornweed, or soy. So you can be sure your cat is getting the finest ingredients from around the world, but made, right here in the USA. Spoil your fur babies and introduce them to the delicious delicacies of Shiba. To learn more, check out Shiba.com. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts
Starting point is 02:02:33 by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OBGYN recommended brand and the only one that you can find at all major retailers in all 50 U.S. states. There's no minimum age requirement and you don't. don't need an ID to buy it. You can order it through DoorDash and other major delivery platforms too. That's freedom to be. Use as directed.
Starting point is 02:02:53 Wellness looks different at every stage. The right support makes all the difference. Elevate daily wellness with vital proteins advanced collagen plus colostrum and prebiotic fiber. This 3 in 1 blend supports radiant skin, gut health, and immune system wellness. Designed to mix into room temperature or cold liquids. So your inner harmony works with your outer wellness. Vital Proteins. Stay vital.
Starting point is 02:03:11 Visit vitoproteins.com to get started. These statements have not been evaluated by the food. drug administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, prevent any disease, in combination with resistance exercise. This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeet's World. Cat parents unite. We have to look out for each other. Yes, we all know the feeling of being ignored by our little babies a little too well. Yeah, I often wonder to myself, does my cat even love me? Well, there's only one solution to solve that. Sheba. Feed your cat, Sheba, and go from feeling ignored to truly adored in 12 days guaranteed or your money back.
Starting point is 02:03:48 Sheba has a wide array of products, appetizers, entrees, treats, and even a kitten's menu that will win over even the pickiest eater. My cat Bill is all about Sheba grilled. Just snap, peel, and serve for two gourmet servings and zero messy leftovers. He loves it. Licks it to the bowl. Its protein-rich formula is made with real chicken and seafood without artificial flavors, preservatives, cornweed, or soy. So you can be sure your cat is getting the finest ingredients from around the world, but made right here in the USA. Spoil your fur babies and introduce them to the delicious delicacies of Shiba. To learn more, check out Shiba.com.
Starting point is 02:04:25 Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OBGYN recommended brand and the only one that you can find at all major retailers in all 50 U.S. states. There's no minimum age requirement and you don't need an ID to buy it. You can order it through DoorDash and other major delivery platforms too. That's freedom to be. Use as directed. Wellness looks different at every stage.
Starting point is 02:04:56 The right support makes all the difference. Shake up your routine with vital proteins, collagen peptides. With 20 grams of collagen sourced from grass-fed, pasture-raised bovine. It helps support healthy hair, skin, nails, bones, and joints. Made with no artificial sweeteners, a clean way to fuel your body. So your wellness stays effortless wherever the day takes you. Vital Proteins. Stay vital.
Starting point is 02:05:15 Visit VitalProtteens.com and get started. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeet's World. As cat parents, Ryder and I know the feeling of being ignored by our cats. I often wonder, does my cat even love me? Well, there's only one solution to solve that.
Starting point is 02:05:38 Sheba. Feed your cat, Shiba, and go from feeling ignored to truly adored in 12 days, guaranteed, or your money back. Shiba has so many incredible products that can satisfy even the pickiest eater. Like new Shiba grilled, made in the USA with the finest ingredients from around the world. They are savory strips in a succulent sauce that cats are sure to love. And it's 100% complete and balanced with essential vitamins and nutrients for adult cats like my bill. Made without artificial flavors or preservatives, no corn, wheat, or soy. To learn more, check out shiba.com.
Starting point is 02:06:13 If you want something done right, you do what you just. self. That's why you change your own oil. You wouldn't trust your engine to just anybody. So go with the full synthetic motor oil you can trust. Pens Oil Ultra Platinum offers engine protection for the lifetime of your vehicle. So do it right with Pens Oil Ultra Platinum. Stock up now at Walmart. Penzoil. Long may we drive. Limited lubrication warranty for lifetime engine protection. Other conditions apply, including enrollment and receipt requirements. See pensoil.com slash warranty for full details and terms. Hey, I just Venmoed you for rent.
Starting point is 02:06:46 Nice. Now I can instantly spend it whether I'm checking out online with Venmo or using a Venmo debit card. Say more. More exactly. Because the more you do with Venmo, the more you get. Like earning up to 5% cashback with Venmo Stash on a bundle of brands. So, order more pizza. The math demands it. Get the Venmo debit card. Venmo Stash bundle terms and exclusions apply.
Starting point is 02:07:07 See terms of Venmo.com.com. Vimmo checkout not available at all merchants. Vimmo MasterCard is issued by the Bankor Bank N.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.