Bigfoot Society - A First Nations Man From Vancouver Island Shares Decades Of Encounters With Sasquatch

Episode Date: March 2, 2026

In this episode, we delve into the remarkable experiences of Tom Sewid, a First Nations man from Northern Vancouver Island who now lives in Forks, Washington on the Olympic Peninsula. Growing up immer...sed in Indigenous traditions where Sasquatch is understood as part of the land and culture, Thomas shares a lifetime of encounters that began in his youth and continued through decades spent guiding, fishing, and living deep in the bush.From coastal shellfish beaches of Vancouver Island to remote river systems and logging country near Forks, Thomas recounts close-range sightings, thermal captures, gifting interactions, and moments that brought him face to face with these beings at startling distances. He also discusses the development of his upcoming Sasquatch museum, rare cast acquisitions, and the cultural regalia connected to his tribe’s highest-ranking crest.Throughout the conversation, Thomas offers insight into territorial patterns, population estimates tied to salmon rivers, and the importance of respect when entering these environments. His perspective bridges lived wilderness experience with Indigenous knowledge passed down through generations.Join us as we explore Thomas’s powerful journey across Vancouver Island and the Pacific Northwest, where Sasquatch is not a legend of the past, but an ongoing presence woven into the land itself.Resources MentionedSasquatch, The Legend (Forks, WA Bigfoot store & museum project)https://sasquatchthelegend.comSasquatch Island (Facebook Group)https://www.facebook.com/groups/753712284709607Chinook Jargon / Chinook Trade Language (reference discussed)https://www.chinookjargon.com🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072

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Starting point is 00:01:31 So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society. Welcome back to another episode. Today we've got the privilege of talking to Mr. Tom Seawood up there in the Pacific Northwest. You may know Tom from a few different things, such as Sasquatch the legend.com. If you've been to Forks, Washington, you may have seen the Bigfoot store. And also opening up a Bigfoot museum, which will probably be talking about that as well. and you run a rather big Facebook group, Sasquatch Island as well, right, Tom?
Starting point is 00:02:05 Yes, man. Gellicazla, greetings to everyone watching. My name's Tom Seward, remember the Kwokwocky Wat First Nation or Indian tribe from northern Vancouver Island. But I do live here in Forks, Washington on the Olympic Peninsula. Awesome, awesome. Forks is such a great place. I need to get back out there now that I'm into Bigfoot. I will say the last time I was
Starting point is 00:02:28 out there was actually for a honeymoon and it was more into the twilight side of things this was a long time ago so I need to get back out there and see all the Bigfoot stuff man let's talk about
Starting point is 00:02:44 I mean I'm really interested in you're starting up this museum and you are starting to get acquisitions for this left and right oh it's just crazy all of support we're getting And, you know, I guess it's mainly because I have so many items in my personal collection, like the company house I live in here. I do all of the West Coast Native art for the store of Sasquatch and whales and other things, but mainly Sasquatch.
Starting point is 00:03:13 So, you know, the original paintings I had, you know, I had them just piled up in my closet, but now they're on the walls of this house, but we're going to bring them to the museum. and we just recently, we acquired a private collection of 38 casts, numerous foot casts, all the famous ones, you know, Josh Gates, Yeti replica, Bosberg, Cripplefoot. But the unique thing about it was the gentleman reached out 16 years ago to Dr. Jeff Meldrum, and that's who he bought the casts off. So they all have that sort of ash-color gray with them that, you know, was indicative. of a meldrum cast and a lot of provenance with it. And then a woman from Oregon City came up last weekend,
Starting point is 00:04:01 and she donated three casts, one of an 18-inch foot. It's massive from Mount Hood, a big knuckle print and a big handprint, the size of a baseball glove. I talked to someone on Vancouver Island. I got the famous Sayward Vancouver Island trackway. I'm going to have one of those casts, as well as my good buddy, the late Dr. John Bindernagle, his famous cast with the hiking boot imprint in the middle of it. I'll have that in the museum eventually as well, too.
Starting point is 00:04:32 So it's going to be a big museum. We're probably pushing close to 45 plus cast, even a butt print in the Saskatch if you can believe that. I didn't think that we'd get one of those, but we got one. Oh, wow. What's the history on the butt print? I don't know where it's from, but apparently it's a female. You can actually, someone said you can actually see the Volva outline in there. So it's a pretty famous cast, and I believe Cliff has a replica of it in his museum.
Starting point is 00:05:07 But this lady, she picked up, or that private collector, he picked it up from somewhere, and we got it now, so that'll be good. And then one of the unique things is behind me, you see Jonach over my left, shoulder. That's what we call Sasquatch in my language Aquacola from my tribe. It's our highest ranked crest. And when we go to potlatches, we'll wear the
Starting point is 00:05:30 regalia of the cedar torn off a mask and the fur regalia. My family, you have a basket on your back for the baby Sasquatch. And we're going to build mannequins and have them in display cases. So you can see the, you know, it's a pretty
Starting point is 00:05:46 famous regalia that I have because I've done so many conferences and television shows. And then this one right here is actually owned by Robert Alley. I'm just doing some finishing work on a crack that he got put in there. He dropped it. But anyway, that's because those are the little hair-covered beings that are bipedal. To my tribe, they're the keeper of the ghost world or chief of the ghost world, but to other Indian tribes right across North America, they're referred to as little people or stick people. So it's going to be a pretty unique museum a lot of indigenous Indian cultural components pertaining to Sasquatch it'll be very
Starting point is 00:06:30 extremely interesting i know that um i know at least uh some some of your items will be unique to that museum and not in any other museums and i'm referencing probably to the mount hood castes which i know a little bit about actually um Because I think the ones that you received, I myself am friends with the individual as well, that was up visiting you, which she is great. And the Frank Kinister, do you know if they were cast by her specifically or if they were from the individual that she used to partner with? Sounds like they were together when they did it. Okay. And of course, you know, he tragically passed on an accident, which is really bad.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Yeah. And when she came up, you could tell she was pretty distraught and everything, but, you know, brought me a whole bunch of tree breaks and twists as well and weave bundles. But I swore in as the president of Sasquatch Island, Oregon. And in order to break in my presidents, I got to show them a sassaddle. So last Friday night, she got here Friday afternoon, six-hour drive, gave her some dinner, because I call it eating like a Sasquatch. I made a traditional food of food I had harvested in the peninsula over the last year and a bit.
Starting point is 00:08:00 And then afterwards we drove down, picked up my buddy, who's one of my fellow investigators here on the peninsula, and we drove up to, we have a contract with a family, and we're calling it Squat Walkcher Ranch. And we've got a logo and T-shirts coming. It's kind of like that other one that's out there. But we have over 300 plus acres with five houses on it and a pioneer family that are all 70 years old and older. And they didn't know what was Sasquatch. That was banging their houses and making noise and tree knocking and breaking.
Starting point is 00:08:37 So they brought me in a couple months ago. And, you know, it's so popular that their property was actually on one of the TV shows. a few years ago. Shane Corson from the Olympic Project was there. Shane came up and investigated with my partner and my friend the other couple weeks ago and I talked to him today. He's coming back because it is on like Donkey Kong.
Starting point is 00:09:01 We go up there Friday night. I didn't want to go in the direct property, but we were using, we got purchased replacement value would be over $40,000, $50,000, the three flirt, night vision, heat, scopes we bought. They're not manufactured by Flora.
Starting point is 00:09:19 There are other companies from a few years back. But we're turning the darkness into daylight and seeing like two, 300 yards. And we were going down the road just outside the gate. And I'm like, stop. And there's deer come across the road at the same time. I said, stop. And I looked in the field because I saw bedded down elk,
Starting point is 00:09:41 not 40, 50 yards from us. but then as I looked up in a dozen Douglas fir about two feet in diameter but spread apart here's this big Sasquatch standing there looking at the road where we are and all of a sudden we all saw it and it's like moving about and they're you know they're talking away I'm looking with my floor and we're swapping the different units because you know what everyone seems to have a different ability to see things and one's heat and of course and I even tried my little Flour Scout, and I could see the heat sig of the Sasquatch tree beak.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And she's like, am I really looking at a Sasquatch? I'm like, yeah, she'll finally get to see a Sasquatch. I said, well, I hope you two know, you're my number 23 and 24 that I put on a Sasquatch. And we watched it, and then I hit the spotlight after about eight minutes or so to try to illuminate it, but it was a little too far away. He was 225 yards or a little more away. And we measured it out a day later and everything. We know that he was over eight foot tall.
Starting point is 00:10:51 He was 225 to 240 yards away from the road. And all of a sudden, when I hit the spotlight, the other two with their scopes on, they're like, it just dropped and hit the dirt, hit the dirt. And then I grabbed another scope, shut the light off, look, and I could see it crawling on the ground away from us. and then it disappeared because it got into the big ferns that were three, four feet high. So it was calling to that.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And then all of a sudden it stood up and I could see it walking bipedly away from us into the login slash. And, you know, that was, you know, I've seen them so many times. It's a big deal, yeah, but it's not that big of a deal to me nowadays. But to Steve and to Huli, you know, that was bucketless. They got their check. yeah no absolutely i actually talked to uly earlier today because i was like i gotta hear from uly and she's she's still on on cloud nine i mean
Starting point is 00:11:51 constantly playing it over and over in her head and the crazy thing is it's like i'm just going to share a little bit from what she shared with me just what she noticed it's like it's not like you purposely stopped in a certain point It's like all of a sudden a deer rushed out of the side of the road. It was like really emotional.
Starting point is 00:12:17 It had its tail tucked between its legs. And so you guys had to stop because the deer was there. And you look over the elk and there's a Sasquatch. It's like crazy, man. Yeah. And being a grizzly bear hunting guide for over 20 years and a bushman for decades, commercial fishermen and that, but mainly my bush skills. you know, as soon as we stopped, the first thing I registered on is, you know, because I'm a smoker,
Starting point is 00:12:44 is which ways it's smoke going, and it was going from the elk to the Sasquatch. So he was in a downwind position, and with the piles of broken branches and refuse from the logging operation that took place there, like, you know, big beaver dam, beaver houses, that's what we thought it was hiding behind, but it was actually in the timber about, I guess, maybe 25 meters further back. So he was using those trees and then, you know, being a hunter when I walked up there the next morning, I was like, hey, you guys, look at this trail. There's the grass trail through the logging slash almost looks like they removed all of the twigs and branches and things. Like it was a perfect trail of grass in between the ferns and the replanted trees, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:37 which were only about four feet high because we actually found a tree break in that same log slash area. But it almost looks like there's so much elk activity there, which, you know, it is because there's three log and slashes that the Sasquatches have set it up that they know that it's where they can hide on the prevailing southeast wind or northwest wind. They got it set up like, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:01 hunters set up their blinds in their trails. Extremely interesting. So this is an area then that you can take people on your expeditions, or is this a totally different area? Oh, no, I can bring them on expeditions there. You know, I have a rule here. Peggy and I, my wife came up with, I've been here going on 22 months now, managing Sasquotsledgell. And I live two blocks from the store. And I decided, you said, Peggy, I know, we go down to Lake Quinault, we're talking
Starting point is 00:14:36 going Lake Losette, we're talking about going here, all over a half an hour drive. All the activity we're getting is all within a half hour radius of the house and store. So let's make a rule we're going to stay within half an hour radius. That way we're not wasting gas and time. And, you know, we've got over 30 trail cameras out there. And when you're changing batteries and data cards, you know, you can't be driving all over the Olympic Peninsula. This place is vast. So that half hour radius and it just shows you how many Sasquatchers are here.
Starting point is 00:15:06 So one of the things I did in Canada, because all my bush knowledge and Sasquatch knowledge through the years, is I was approached by some native tribes and the GIS mapping and their resource departments wanted to know how to guesstimate a population of Sasquatch. And I said, well, number one, you're not going to do it in the forest. I said, you know, chances to see them in the forest is slim to none. So you can't really just do it at shellfish beaches because there's so many beaches, you're never going to get a good number. I said the best way is tree structures and prominent geological features on rivers, creeks, and streams that have salmon, steelhead, and other fish, and waterfowl and different things that they eat. And I said, if we look at it where in Canada we're metric, so every 10 kilometers of river, you're just, I'm finding that within 10, the, 14 kilometers, you'll find a teepee structure, a boundary marker showing different clans of
Starting point is 00:16:10 Sasquatch. We're the lower part of the whole river, where the mid part of whole river, and we're the upper clan up there where all the salmon spawns. So in that 10-kilometer zone, seven miles, where you have optimum shallow water ripples, where salmon and steelhead go up at nighttime, so there's no predators like birds and eagles and wolves and raccoons and river otters. They're just like World War I soldiers going up the ladder across a barbed wire into no man's land at nighttime. It's just thousands of salmon and steelhead going up, hundreds of steelhead. So the Sasquatches will stand in those ripples, ankle deep, and just bend down and grab the fish they want to eat, fill their belly, bring up into the forest to their family. So we use a factor of four Sasquatches for every 10 kilometers, seven miles with optimum shallow water.
Starting point is 00:17:04 So if you look at the whole river, we can estimate that with the length of it, there's roughly 20 to 24 Sasquatches just on the whole river system and its tributaries. On the Olympic Peninsula, I did the analysis with the amount of salmon rivers, and we come up with 168, a 220 Sasquotches, just on the Olympic Peninsula. So if you're looking at a high concentration of Sasquatches in North America, one other place beats this. But I know that the Olympic Peninsula outside of an Indian reserve has the highest concentration of Sasquatches in the United States that I know of so far. That is wild. What's the other area that that's right up there with it? Vancouver Island.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Ah, okay. Okay, well, there you go, right? Yeah, which you're very familiar with as well. Oh yeah, I grew up there a lifetime. Griswere hunting guide off Vancouver Island, ran ecotourism operations, commercial fish the entire British Columbia coast for over 40 years. You know, I've been to places in British Columbia and most humans will never get to and drop an anchor, nighttime, it's a low tide, hey, let's go to a beach, dig some clams,
Starting point is 00:18:14 cockles. Cockles are a type of clam, which is a favorite food of the Sasquatch and humans as well. But, you know, we might get 300 clams in one cockle. in a dig. So, you know, they're pretty rare. And when we go digging clams commercially or for food, we're digging 1,500, 2,000 pounds of clams one night, one boatload of diggers. So when we're out there, you know, we'd hear the whistles, the chirps, the tree knocks, the tree being pushed down the dead tree. And what it was was back when I was a teenager, it was Tommy, Toneh was hungry, doesn't like us on their feet. Grab that.
Starting point is 00:18:54 box full of cockles and bring it up to the tree line, you know, it's 100 yards away. And you're walking up, your throat's dry, you're shaken, you're terrified, because you get up to the tree line. It's just a wall of black, and you're throwing cockles in there, and you're just waiting for big hairy arm to come out and grab you. But once you do that, the Sasquatches will take the gift you, give them, and leave you alone, not make any more noise.
Starting point is 00:19:21 So that's the interaction I've had with Sasquatchez. Squatch right from being a child when I was first taught about the bush. They brought a bunch of us young boys out. And we anchored out, we dingy to shore. And as soon as we got there, you know, high tide at the daytime, the one of the elders, hey, you young punks, get up here. We went up to the high tide mark. And he said, look, broken trolley shells, cockle shells on the log, big indentations in the gravel.
Starting point is 00:19:51 He goes, those broken cockle shells, that's totally. Sonok, a Sasquatch telling us, we're digging this tide at low tide at night when the big low tide is here. You humans go somewhere else. So we're going to go back out to the boat, pull anchor and go a mile one of the other directions, go to a different shellfish beach. Truth that, if there's no evidence of Sasquatch, we will dig there that night. And that's the respect. My tribe and many other coastal tribes have a Sasquatch.
Starting point is 00:20:20 We don't just go digging on a beach. We make sure it's Unach, a Sasquatch isn't using that beach because that's very disrespectful. That's extremely interesting. A question, I have a question about the regalia that's behind you, and people can see this in the YouTube version, of course. I've always wondered, when you see these masks, a lot of the representations of Sasquatch, they seem to have pursed lips. is there a reason why these masks are made with the pursed lips? Because you're always going whoop. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And we do. When we actually go on the potlatch floor, you come out of the chameleus, the screen that enters you onto the floor, the chiefs and drummers are all to your left. First thing you do is you do an anti-clockwise circle. It's our etiquette. And then you enter the floor.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And the first thing you do is you rub your eyes, yon, rub your eyes again, walk a bit like a Sasquatch, and you, whoop, whoop, walk again, and then you reach out like you're grabbing misbehaving children. My family, you throw them in the basket. Because when you're young, you're told, Tommy, you behave yourself. You smarten up, quit acting up. Chonachah's watching. You misbehave, don't do your chores,
Starting point is 00:21:51 pull a tempered tantrum, don't eat your food. Chonachah is going to come at night where you're sleeping, reach in with big hairy arm and grab you, rub spruce sap from the tree on your eyes so you're blind and can't open them. And she's going to throw you in that basket on her back. She's going to carry you into the forest deep up a mountain to her invisible home. That's why we can't find Chonach of the Sasquatch. And that's where she's going to boil you up and eat you to the bones.
Starting point is 00:22:15 So he's smarting up. I remember that. I was a young kid in the Lurt Bay. I went to my buddies. We went down to the, no offense, but we called the white end because Lurt Bay is like a telephone handle, an old-day shaped island. The north half is the Indian Reserve where we lived. And the south half is the municipality of Lurt Bay, which has the non-Indians living there.
Starting point is 00:22:38 So we went to the white end to the Chinese corner store, I guess you could say. It was on pilings over the beach. and we bought candy plate on the beach and all of a sudden I looked up and I noticed that the sun was going behind Vancouver Island to the west and I'm like, oh no, I'm misbehaving I got to get home and my little legs I'm running and I got to the shipyards on the beach
Starting point is 00:22:58 and I stopped and I peered around the brown house at the graveyard and there's all the big memorial totemful standing up all the different crest figures of the chieftains that passed and of course five of them with carved Chonachah at the base signifying the highest rank
Starting point is 00:23:14 crest of the quack walk you walk and the chief that passed with their sleepy eyes or puckered lips their big breasts or outstretched arms and all i kept thinking was oh no tune off i was gonna get me the sun's going down i'm misbehaving i'm just sprinting and i was in this car horn was honking it was one of my family members Tommy what the hell are you crying for get in the car i'll bring you home it's getting dark that's funny wow one of the first interviews i did that was focused on Bigfoot was with an older gentleman from Vancouver Island. It was really interesting and it was about a certain area. I'm just curious if you know anything about this area to do with Bigfoot.
Starting point is 00:23:57 I think it was called Gold River. Have you heard anything regarding that area in Bigfoot? Yeah. The Taksana Indian Reservation is there. One of the Mutuala tribe and the New Channel is First Nation. West Coast tribes, 24 of them out there, but the Machauat Mutualat, I have friends in there. Peggy and I went there probably 2012 investigating. One of the elders was telling us all about the high, high amount of activity on the Indian Reservation, the river, told us that they have a
Starting point is 00:24:37 canyon and the young guys and girls will climb down ropes to their fishing station to catch the sockeye salmon, the reds. And I guess this one guy was going down there one time, and he was just setting up, getting his fishing gear ready to catch sock. All of a sudden, a big, all he saw was this big feet and hair. And all of a sudden the Sasquatch stood up, shook its head, went like that. And the eyeball locked each other. He's on the shore, and Sasquatch is in the river. So it looked at each other, the Sasquatch just turned and, and, well, he looked at each other, Sasquatch just turned,
Starting point is 00:25:15 and went downstream. I was scared to that Indian kid. He said, I don't know what to do. He goes, fish or not fish? He said, heck with it. I'm not fishing right now. And he went scampering up the rope again and get out of there. But the whole islands I got, that's why I think prefer to it as ape island and Vancouver Island.
Starting point is 00:25:35 It's the highest concentration of wood carvings of Sasquatch on earth. When you get up to Campbell River, the L'Ejota, are southern. tribe members and family. And then further north, you get to Campbell River, the city's got the highest concentration of wood carvings of Sasquatch on earth. Even paintings, they have a carving
Starting point is 00:25:57 competition every June and Campbell River. And there's Sasquatches all through the town, the museum, and then the native families all have their guildas, their box of treasure, trunks filled with masks. And of course every family has one
Starting point is 00:26:13 or many more, Chonachla, Car carvings mass to bring to life what an ancestor saw at Potlatch. And then you have the native art galleries and artists that are all carving Chonach, Sasquatch, and Bookwush, because that's what the buyers want. Everyone, especially with me, advocating Chonachahua to the world through social media, websites, television shows, Sasquatch conferences, and, of course, pod and video casting and radio shows. People that are Sasquatch enthusiasts and have collections. all want to have a Chonach Sasquatch mask.
Starting point is 00:26:49 I got one. And, you know, I got a commissioner. I got one over there on the table that I've got to start, finish sanding, and then I got to carve it, paint it, put the hair on it. That's going to New York, upper New York state. You know, so Chonachas are very wanted by people. And then when you get to the North Island, the community of Port Hardy with Chakis,
Starting point is 00:27:13 the Wallace-Coggle tribe in the south of the south of the South, cities, Indian Reserve and lands. They have carvings all over in Chonachah. And then on the north side of town is Chukwadi, the Kwasala Nakhado tribes. They live there. And there, I just saw it tonight.
Starting point is 00:27:29 They're having a grand opening of their ceremonial big house. They've been building for the last three years, June 14th and 15th, they'll be there. Because I want to see the Chonahah mask being danced on the floor and get pictures and memory. But I also
Starting point is 00:27:45 want to see because I know darn well they're going to have a chunachah carved in one of the vertical houseposts inside or a welcoming pole or a totem pole outside. So I want to go see that and see the newest of the carved chunachas and big huge logs. That is really, really cool. I have gotten the privilege to interview different First Nations individuals over the years. And something that most of them have shared is that sometimes when there's a ceremony that's held, there will actually be interactions with Sasquatch that will happen in conjunction with the ceremony. Have you ever experienced anything like that where things will start to happen when there's different ceremonies that are taking place?
Starting point is 00:28:39 I belong to the Hummus Society, Human flesh users, cannibal society. We don't progress. us at no more. We haven't for at least three weeks. No, I'm just kidding. We haven't since the early 1900s, late 1800s. But we were the secret servants agents of the chieftains, the ultimate protector of the chiefs. So we were the fiercers of warriors. And our society is very secretive, and we have a border that we do not cross. So the answer to that question pertaining to my society, I can't answer that. But I do know, because I had permission, from two different Indian tribes that were having their
Starting point is 00:29:18 ceremonial celebrations. And I went to the chiefs and asked, is it all right if I investigate Sasquatch and the bushes around your ceremonial gathering? Sure, go ahead. Don't get eaten by them. Because they're drawn by the music and singing and the smells.
Starting point is 00:29:36 They're barbecued salmon, cooking, and other seafoods and meats. And there's a lot of reports about when we have our big, celebrations, be a potlatch or other ceremonies and the drumming's taking place. And you've got to remember that my tribe, the Kwokwakwak you are, you'll see us with the deer drums, skin drums. But when you go to a potlatch, you'll see row upon row, maybe 20, 30, close to 40 chieftains. And the chief holding the potlatch with his helicum, his chief speaker and his talking stick. And then behind
Starting point is 00:30:11 the chiefs is a hollow cedar log about three feet in diameter. or maybe 30 feet long. And that's for the drummers with hardwood batons pound on it. So when they're drumming, you can put your hand on the wooden bench you're sitting on and feel the vibrations. The whole tiltsy, big house just rumbles, boom, boom, boom, as the song is being sung and the drumming takes place.
Starting point is 00:30:36 And then, of course, on the floor, with all of these vertical and horizontal house posts, all carved of crest figures, Thunderbird, Eagles, whales, grizzly bears, Chonachah, you name it. And then around that firelight, the only light in the big house, it's like a spiritual realm and that booming drumming, like thunder. And you're witnessing a Chonachah being danced.
Starting point is 00:30:57 And you look at it as passes the house pool in Campbell River in their ceremonial big house. And it's the largest interior wood carving of a Chonachah Sasquatch. And you'll see it on my Facebook group and website. But it is a sight to behold to see a Chonachah dancer going by, that tune of a housepost. It's just, it makes your heart pound. Wow, that's, that is extremely
Starting point is 00:31:20 fascinating. You, you, uh, will perform these dances sometimes at different, uh, bigfoot conferences, correct? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I just found out today, I'm going to, I got invited to two different conferences today, one on Vancouver Island in May and another one here in Washington State, by the sounds of it at the end of September. They're just in the
Starting point is 00:31:40 initial planning stages, but the Vancouver Island May, third weekend of May has been set. Tickets are on sale. I'll be posting that on Sasquatch Island and other groups because it's going to be a good conference. You know, you're going to see being Peggy perform with our regalia of Tuna'ah and Bukus. And I'm going to talk to them about maybe getting
Starting point is 00:32:02 another native tribe to perform theirs as well. So it'll be a good conference. But yeah, and then people come on my expeditions. You know, it's extra because happy wife, happy life. You know, I got to get her off the couch to put the regalia on, but, you know, she charges a few dollars, but she'll bring out the regalia as and perform it for you right here on the lawn outside, or we bring it into one of the old groves just outside of town with trees that are 12 foot in diameter. And we shall perform the regalia's out there for you. That's bucket list. working at a place like Sasquatch the Legend
Starting point is 00:32:41 and I would assume this is only going to get wilder with the museum opening up you've got to be taking in some reports you must be hearing stories from people that are visiting your store I was talking to Shane Corson today from the Olympic project and he's laughing away he goes how do you keep up with all these reports I'm like I tell you man it's this constant
Starting point is 00:33:06 If it ain't coming in by the modern-day moccasin telegraph messenger and emails, it's someone phoning me or showing up at the store or calling me to their property. I got like half a dozen people just in and around forks. I got to go truth out their properties and track and see what's going on there because of all the activity. And then with the island over on the other side of Puget Sound, it's like a heavy populated chunk of turf island. But on the north side, it's a big, you know, a couple thousand acres.
Starting point is 00:33:36 of Timberland. There's a family that's gone like Donkey Kong in their backyard with Sasquatch activity. Our gift inside at the Squatch Watcher Ranch, you know, we had a gifting station we put out the next day, the garlic clove, three garlic cloves have been pulled from the bulb, the apples are gone, potatoes have been docked on the ground, they don't like potatoes and sweet potatoes. So a couple days later, more food. was put on the stump and five apples were put in a clear plastic container. Well, we went there Saturday morning in the plastic containers, open, empty line on the ground, Huli being an ex-police officer, put a stick in it.
Starting point is 00:34:21 She's now got it to dry to hopefully pull fingerprints off. So, you know, it's this lawn like Donkey Kong. And then I get people just walking in going, oh, yeah, you should go down to the clinic, across from the hospital, walked that trail. I said, yeah, I know, there's a female Sasquatch. with a young one. Oh, you know about her? I said, yeah, I get a voter report once a month about her. You get a picture? No, I was just so floored when I seen it. And besides that, it just looked at me, jumped up, grabbed it baby, and just bolted in the bush. I didn't have enough time to pull myself.
Starting point is 00:34:54 And then we got the couple on the east side of town. And what they're doing is they're working the urban edge because they've learned that like what happened at the ranch when two weeks ago and we went there before we started gifting one of the older ladies on the property said someone on my house so come in thought it was one of my family no one came in a few minutes later got up i went to the door opened it went outside nothing i said oh it's a sasker bang in your house. The rivers are in blowout flood condition now. And salmon run is tapered right off to nothing and a steelhead that are here in deep water and it's very deep and fast moving. So the elk aren't here right now. And what they're doing is pounding on your house. Hey, we're hungry.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Feed us. I said, someone in this neighborhood, if you've got a pounding Sasquatch, it means someone in your neighborhood or in their seasonal territorial migration, which is, basically, not like you hear on Expedition Bigfoot, it goes from Northern California, through Oregon, to Washington State, and branches off to Olympic Peninsula, and beyond Washington into Canada. P.S. Sasquatch is like any other Indian tribe. They have small territories that they've been in for thousands of years,
Starting point is 00:36:21 and that's where they stay. And the odd one, when they get kicked out of the house, they go trumping. And that's where we see the Sasquatches in the Alpine ice fields, Squamish and another one I can't remember where that one's from, but those are trumpers, and they're trumping out of their territory, going to find a mate and new territory, and establish their clan, because when you're bump uglies, you can't bump uglies or the family. You've got to spread your seed, the other bloods way far away.
Starting point is 00:36:49 So it's nature's code that we don't interbreed. And unfortunately, in Omaha Indian Reserve, the two Sasquatches I saw in my Florescout, hang lips, that FAS, fetal alcohol syndrome glazed donut face, that lumbering walk, and all I saw was inbreeding because all of the forest around Omaha Indian Reserve has been removed for industrial farms for generations.
Starting point is 00:37:17 And my boots on the ground tribe member, Lucas White, who's investigating down there. And he's coming back saying, yeah, they're concerned that there's an overpopulation of their kind. Sitanga, Keeper of the Medicine, the Sasquatch. That, man, that area, I'm not too far away from that area. I'm about a few hours.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I mean, the stories that come out of the Omaha tribe and Satanga, I mean, there's very, very intense stuff. There's a few documentaries out there. People can watch as well. But, you know, something that I wanted to ask you specifically, there's a gentleman I used to talk to quite a bit. He's no longer with us, unfortunately. His name was Henry Franzoni, and he was down more in, he did a lot of research in Oregon, and he would always tell stories about how he would hear from First Nations individuals
Starting point is 00:38:16 that you could be walking along, and all of a sudden, you could actually be start to, you could be moving and not be meaning to move and they could actually have you walk off a cliff if they wanted to. Is that anything that you've ever heard of where, you know, they can control movement or, you know, you can't move or anything like that? I've got over around 30 encounters with Sasquots. Like I've lived in Bush for months at a time sometimes. I hated humans back in the 90s and early 2000s. I just disappear, go live like a saskatch, run out of cigarettes and coffee in the first two weeks. And after that, I was just go to feralism and live like a saskatch.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Just going for it. Took a look. And I worked out there as well. But, you know, all the experience I've had, I've never had what I term woo. Never had that control of your walking to walk you off a cliff, which would be mind speaking, seeing them turn to orbs, cloaking, portal jumping. UFO flying. I've never had that.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Like I don't even waste my time with X's. They're natural. You know, but the Sasquatch is going to go through time and effort to build something. It's going to be a tree break, twist, a tpee structure, a lean to, a weaving bundle like
Starting point is 00:39:41 Marie Dumont with her mid-flora to Sasquatch investigations. She sent a bunch, posted a bunch of weaving pictures. So I reached out to the shaman. that I interact with
Starting point is 00:39:55 the knowledgeable North American Indians in Canada and the U.S. And they got back to me a couple days ago and I phoned Marie yesterday. I said, Marie, that weave you have of the head shaped with the long vines hanging out. I said, it's a female looking for a mate.
Starting point is 00:40:11 And she's saying, this is how big my head is and it's how long my hair is. The length of the hair is a sign of beauty the longer it is. And that's what she's displaying. And when Huli gave me all of those tree breaks and twists and everything. She gave me one that looks like a cocoon,
Starting point is 00:40:34 and it's all wrapped in everything. And I'm like, oh, a memorial rap. And what it is is when Sasquatches have a death in their clan, sometimes they'll take a tree break twist and they'll wrap it like a cocoon. You know, they're wide gaps, but it looks like a cocoon because the numerous and reports I've gotten from elders about how their ancestor or father went into the cave with the Sasquatch and saw the burial ground. The Sasquatches were all in fetal positions wrapped in three strand cedar bark or wisps, those flexible branches and woven, three strand or braided or what have you.
Starting point is 00:41:16 So that bundle cocoon was just a memorial to tell other Sasquatches that One of our families passed, and we've cocooned them, bundled them up and put them to rest for eternity now. So with Sasquatches, because I've been very fortunate because I was born an Indian, so I can talk to Indians, and they open up. They don't hug Indian and zip mouth and don't talk. And then now because I have that Sasquatch celebrity status because of being in different movies and television shows, podcast, video, because you didn't name it. So I'm kind of like a shiny item. It's like, holy smokes, it's Tom. Sasquatch Island. Can I get a picture with you? Sure. Come on. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:41:56 You know, and it's really humbling. But at the same turn, it's opening doors of people reaching out to me or opening up to me about their stories of Sasquatch. And the shamans, you know, I was taught that by three different tribes, that Sasquatches live 100 to 130 years old. And some 150 and older, the white ones and gray ones are really, really old. And of course, one of the shaman ladies, I asked, they said, how do they get so old? Corporal punishment smacked me upside the head. I was like, what? You listen to what I've been teaching you for five days? Sitanga, keeper the medicine, we call them.
Starting point is 00:42:38 They've forgotten more about medicinal remedies and poultices than we will ever know. And that's why I've asked the question, does your tribe shaman, if they don't get the knowledge passed on by, older one because he died maybe in the old days from disease or animal attack or warfare or drowning or nowadays like that one shaman who hit a telephone pole coming from the casino and killed himself his grandson had to step up and this was five years ago and say i volunteer and he disappeared into their bush and three and a half years later he came back out he says i now have the knowledge of be the shaman, the medicine person, because he had did his Diane Goodall, Jane Goodall, Diane Fassey,
Starting point is 00:43:21 interaction with his local Sasquatches and communicated with them to learn the poultices and remedies and medicinal plants. So some of our tribes, like a lot of people go, oh, how do I become a good investigator or researcher? Bite your tongue, there's no such thing as a Sasquatch researcher. Anyone who says they're researchers, is the egomaniac and got fathead.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Because until someone gets pictures crispy and clear of a Sasquatch that National Geographic's going to put on their magazine and put an editorial inside, then they become a researcher. Until then, we're all bumbling, stumbling, stumbling investigators. So don't use the R word.
Starting point is 00:44:00 And I said, if you want to be a good investigator, you've got to learn a number one thing about Sasquatch. You will always, as the hairless bipedal, be respectful of them. You will never disrespect them. What they came, stop, turn around, put your hands out like that. I'm going that way and go 180 and go back where you came from because they're just telling you by tree knocking, we don't want you here. And that's why that TV show in 14 seasons never found a big foot because they're always knocking on trees in the Sasquatches home telling them, stop, turn around, go back where you come from.
Starting point is 00:44:35 How disrespectful. And that's why the Sasquatch has just walked away from them. So knowing that Sasquatch is, it's all about respect. Reach out to where you're going to investigate the local Indian tribe, maybe bring some gifts with tobacco and other things, and ask them permission and protocol if you can investigate Sasquatch in their traditional territories. They may let you, they may not.
Starting point is 00:44:59 They may even invite you into their Indian reserve. Oh, we're overrun with Sasquatches on our res. Come on in, bring your cameras, bring your trail cameras. Johnny down the street, my cousin, he'll help you. He's always running into him when he's hunting. And you've learned the first point about being a good investigator to be respectful. And then when the Indians learn their language, hello, I come in peace. I mean no harm.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I gift you food. Goodbye. So me and my territories, when I hear tree knocking or I see them, Yo, wait says, Jonah. Hello, I don't know who you are, Sasquatch. What are you up to? Let us turn and walk away. But respect.
Starting point is 00:45:44 And that's what it's all about. So knowing that level of respect and learning that language, and as you now can tell by your body language and people listening, I know a little bit more than most people about Sasquatch. So one of the things that I'm working on is I'm driving on the highway to Port Angeles and I see Plahua Campground. I remember when I was part of the 2010 Winter Olympics, when I represented the provincial Indian tourism association, I was its chairman. And we coined the term Klajua.
Starting point is 00:46:19 It's from the trade dialect that all Indians knew across Saskatch Island, North America. So that when they came across each other, even though I speak a little bit of Kla Kuala, but in the old days I would have been fluent in Klau Kla Kuala, but I meet my mother's family in Saskatchewan, the Central Plains, who speak Crete. I don't know to say, don't say hello. So I say, Klajia. It's universal. Hello, how you doing? And then they'd answer in Schnuck.
Starting point is 00:46:46 So the Chinook trade dialect was known all through North America. Then contact comes, and we get introduced to trappers, explorers, prospectors, land developers, and railway survey teams. And they don't speak the Indian dialect. but they do learn schnuck, but they also, when the Indians talking to them in Chinook, and he, non-Indian offers them sugar, the Indian goes, ooh, that's good.
Starting point is 00:47:14 What is that? Shukwa, sugar. The Indians couldn't say R. So we say in Chinook, Shukwa for sugar. Capusta for cabbage. It's Polish, but it's in a snook trade in the dialect. And Skukumchuk, Big Salt Water. So if Sasquatch,
Starting point is 00:47:32 can live for 100 to just below 200 years. It means their great-grandfathers, grandwothers, possibly still understand Chinook. So I've ordered a Chinook dialect book that I'm going to learn Chinook so that when I'm out here, like I did on the whole river in July last year, Steve and I, he's a rafting guide. That's why we do the expeditions on the different rivers with his raft and bring people on Sasclotch exposition with a raft.
Starting point is 00:48:02 And that's rocks. But anyway, we're going down the river and we get into the canyon. Steve's got yours. He goes, Tom, I go, what? He goes, it is really, really quiet. There's not even birds making noise or moving about. And I said, yeah. And there's a steep canyon walls all covered in ferns and trees.
Starting point is 00:48:20 So I stood on the bow. I put my hands out like that. And I'm like, yo, princess jonah. In my language, a quakula. I'm in the Quilu Territories. They don't speak Kwokola, but I tried it. Nothing. So then a...
Starting point is 00:48:36 Oh, yeah, Skooka. And then a high pit. Stang's like, holy, keep speaking at the end to us. I don't know any more Chup. So I think I hit something. The Sasquatches understand Chinook dialect because there had to be a way of the Indians to communicate with the Sasquatches
Starting point is 00:48:59 to learn the medicinal remedies. And some tribes are still doing that. So Chinook trade dialect, I think, is the key. Oh, man, that is fascinating. That would be really interesting to do some kind of experiment. I mean, across the country where to see if it's different, just different states that have that same response to the Chinook trade language, or if you can get the same response, you know, from West Coast, to East Coast, you know, I don't know, but...
Starting point is 00:49:33 Yeah. Time will tell. Time will tell, definitely. Would you be able to share, you know, you've been on so many expeditions, but you were mentioning earlier that Uli was just the, you know, number, what was it, 23 or 24? There's been other... There's been other sightings or encounters that have happened on your expeditions. Would you be able to maybe share another story from one of those?
Starting point is 00:50:04 So Adam Davies, we all know who is. Oh, yeah, Adam's great. Stephen Majors, they wanted to go out. So a buddy who's an Indian has a yacht and out of Camber River, eastern central Vancouver Island. So we all jumped on there with the boss's, or the captain's brother, and the captain's daughter, niece, and Peggy, my wife. And we all go on this trip. We all had plans to go way up in my territories,
Starting point is 00:50:37 about six, seven hours journey. But if you leave Camber River at night in the wintertime on a big tide because they're there for clam tide, which means a big low and a big high tide, just logs everywhere. And you hit that with your bow, it can sink you. So we get through Seymour Narrows, which is zero tide.
Starting point is 00:50:53 slat, or it's slat tide, so we don't want any tide rips and overfalls. We scoots through there, and just around the corner, we pull in about 20 minutes later into small inlet. And I'm like, ah, small inlet. And no saskweds here. But we got there, we dropped anchor. You know, we're at 8 o'clock at night, 9 o'clock at night in February, so it's pitch dark. And we're all up on the bridge smoking cigarettes and everything.
Starting point is 00:51:18 And I go to Adam. Adam, make a sound like a sasquatch. You're the big explorer. been all over the world. He goes, well, I actually make the sound of a mountain gorilla on Mount Kilimanjero, the Congo. But I'm not going to do like them, because when they finish vocalizing, they urinate all over their legs. So anyway, Adam does this big huffin, woofing, and then when he stalks, we get an answer from the timber. And we're all just like, no way. So we're flurrs out and everything, but nothing. So the next morning we got up, we all went ashore.
Starting point is 00:51:54 And I found two piles of broken cockle shells at high tide. It was rotten snow here and there, but we didn't find any tracks. So we decided we're going to stay there for the low tide at six o'clock hour before dark that night and dig some shellfish and look for tracks and so forth. So we're digging and everything. And just as we're leaving with our shellfish about seven o'clock at night, tide's starting to rise now. I'm spotlighting.
Starting point is 00:52:23 I'm always on the go for Sasquatch. So I put people on him. I don't just sit there and put my head down. So I'm spotlighting around all of a sudden. He was, I think I saw it. And so we were spotlighting away, but we didn't get no more reaction. We went out to the yacht. I'll start popping wine courts and beer tabs.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Captain's Law kicks in. No one's to go on the dinghies after you start having sips. So we're all sitting there, you know, we didn't see a saskwatch. We're eating clams and steak. and three hours after low tide has turned to flood. All the shellfish beaches are covered now. Adams out back having a smoke. Tom, you better come here and take a look.
Starting point is 00:53:04 It gives me the flur I look and at about 150 plus yards. There's a huge heat signature on the beach. It stands up, bipedal, squats down. I'm like, hey, guys, get out here. And we got all the flurs going. But I had to wear with all to grab my flur and my cell phone and put it on there. And we got 16 minutes, 40 seconds,
Starting point is 00:53:26 recorded a video of that Sasquatch harvesting something on the beach at half-tide rising. So, and eventually it walks into the bushes and disappears. So right away, I'm thinking, what in the heck would it be eaten? Maybe it was rolling rocks over
Starting point is 00:53:41 for the small crabs underneath and eels. And so the next morning we go ashore. And what it was harvesting was what you call China hats. They're a mollus that sticks like an abalone. to the rocks. Everyone the size of a silver dollar or bigger was gone. All that was left on the surface were the ones the size of your pinky nail.
Starting point is 00:54:01 So he was smashing them with a rock and eating them. And that's what he was eaten. And it just blew me away. I didn't suspect they'd be eating China hats. So that day we did a, you know, droning and different things. And that night we were going to put Adam on the beach and flur them and compare his Flores signature to the Sasquatch. Well, me and Peggy put Adam on the dinghy.
Starting point is 00:54:28 We bring him to shore, and he gets out with my 12 gauge, no light, because he doesn't want to spook any Sasquatch around, and he could hear him in his British accent swearing away as he's slipping and falling, clanging my shotgun. That didn't like that sound. And anyway, all of a sudden, me and Peggy are offshore and shut the motor off. You know, I'm both 300 yards away from him, letting him do his thing. I don't want to be in the way with the analysis of Adam's heat size from the boat with Stephen and other people.
Starting point is 00:54:59 And all of a sudden, the radio goes off, handheld. Tommy, come pick me up, go pick me up. It's roaring at me. So I had to start, turn the keys, zip in. Peggy, get ready to help Adam. And she's at the bow. And as I'm going in with the spotlight, lifting my motor, I look up. And there's a perfect cheat.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Maybe. Maybe you look up. There's a Sasquatch looking at us. And she's too busy helping Adam and getting the 12 gauge, getting him. He just wanted to get off that beach. We'd get on the boat or pulled away. And he's like, that thing was growling at me. It was like eight feet away from me growling at me.
Starting point is 00:55:33 So something that. That was a good one because credibility on that one. I got witnesses. And one of them is Adam Davies. Oh, yeah. Adam is a great guy. I needed to have a conversation with him someday. he's got some really cool stuff that's happened to him.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Tom, can you, how about this, what do you think the closest you've ever been to a Sasquatch is over the years? Into that window, five feet. Oh, wow. I was building cabins from my Indian tribe on a 250-acre island up in the Broughton archipelago, my traditional territories off northeastern Vancouver Island, mouth and ice inlet.
Starting point is 00:56:17 When he wants to pinpoint it, Compton Island. C-O-M-T-O-N, Compton Island. And I told my crew with two native distant cousins, you guys go to the outhouse together. Chonach is on the island right now. When it's northwest, they're standing down there watching us.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Southeast, they're up on that rock bluff. I went and looked and seen the grass down over there and up there, all the twigs are pulverized, the pulp because of so much activity up there and looking from there my cousins are you sure show me so we went over i said grab that milk crate you know two foot by two foot plastic milk crate so i went to where we had a tarp up with all of our building equipment lumber so it didn't get wet i said he's been standing here behind his tree put that crate down stand on it you're now over seven feet what do you see our flipping picnic team
Starting point is 00:57:15 He's watching us while we're sitting at our picnic table between the cabins. I'm like, yep. I said, let's go to the other deck. What do you see? Or bedroom window at our picnic table? I'm like, yeah, I said, I think that's who's stealing my apples and my garlet from the metal lockbox where our food is. We had an outdoor kitchen. And I knew it wasn't my cousins because they said there were three teeth Indians, those two.
Starting point is 00:57:43 I think they had six teeth between the two of them. So they ain't eating apples, and they didn't like garlic in their crab butter. I do. So anyway, we put a glass upside down on the table where the kitchen is, garlic clove inside. John goes, hey, I'm going to get Pepsi. Anyone else want a Pepsi? I said, yeah, grab me one from the cooler.
Starting point is 00:58:03 He comes running back. The jar is empty. We all go running over there. It's not a half an hour. It's not even dark yet, and the garlic's gone from the jar, but I stupidly grabbed it. I should have done like. Huli yesterday, the other day, had been careful and brought it to the police and alert bay to get
Starting point is 00:58:20 fingerprinted. So we know there's a saskatch on the island, so I'm having a cigarette outside the cabin and just put an eight-inch overhang and it's drizzling. So I'm standing against that on what would be our beam for our future deck on the cabin. And I'm standing there having my smoke and it's blowing northwest from my right. All of a sudden, this stick comes out of the forest from our outhouse trail and lands on the beach. I'm like, that's not right. So I jiggle my way to the edge of the beam, flick my cigarette, to jump and turn 180.
Starting point is 00:58:54 And there, behind my cabin is at the mouth of my outhouse trail, me and a Sasquatch, 30 feet away from each other, eye-locking. And I'm like, get out of here, quit stealing my garlic and apples. And he turns and bolts. I run in the cabin. Darcy's, quit picking on the Sasquatch. I'm like, I'm not picking on the Sasquots. He's scared of it. He's scared me.
Starting point is 00:59:18 I said, but he's a teenager. He's real lanky, skinny. He's maybe 6-2, 6-4, somewhere in there. But you can tell he's chimpanzee brown face with a little bit of black. He's a youngster, a teenager. So then next night, I'm like, okay, I'm going to get the SOB. So Darcy, me and him are staying in the same cabin. So I've opened the window on my side where the picnic table is.
Starting point is 00:59:43 I put my gun out the window and I crawl out. Darcy, what are you doing? I'm like, shh, don't you dare come running out with that 30-30. No matter what happens, you only come out when I call you, if I call you. I said, I'm going to go put the jig on that Sasquatch. I'm tired of him messing around, stealing our food and swine on us. And I said, besides that, John's home right now. He's scared to the Sasquots, and he might not come back to work.
Starting point is 01:00:09 So anyway, I crawled through the ground. but we'd been clearing brushes, dropping trees, raking leaves, and we had piles of debris piled up, and it's middle of October, and leaves are falling, and we're waiting for the end of October, beginning of November monsoons to come, so we can burn all the debris. So I'm crawling through all these berms of leaves and branches, and I get to the entrance of the trail to the outhouse area
Starting point is 01:00:36 and the interior of the island. It's a big old skitter track and hiking trail, and I slide into this pile of alder leaves like maple leaves that I deliberately piled up like five and a half feet tall. I crawl in there, I lean against a tree, I got my gun in my chest, I got my leaves all over my head, so I just got a little bit of gap under my brim of my hat and leaves on top looking out. I wasn't there half an hour. All of a sudden here comes that lanky black little SOB sneaking in the alder trees and looking at my cabins. and he reaches out with his left hand
Starting point is 01:01:13 and he grabs an alder tree about that big silver bark and he steps off the five foot berm because it's the old skitter trail onto the trail and out of the leaves five feet away he's looking at the back of my cabin and then all of a sudden I come shooting out of the leaves hey what are you doing you? SOB and he just looked at me
Starting point is 01:01:32 and grabs the tree, pulls it, it bends, he lets it goes, it whips, his leaves fall and he looks at me and goes, I jumped out of the lease. Ah, you, get out of here and quit stealing my food. You learn respect. And that Sasquatch went like a freight train, busting branches and trees as he ran away.
Starting point is 01:01:53 And I'm laughing away, running the cabin, Darcy's, quit picking on the chuna chukkah. Not picking on the chuna chuhah. I want him to learn respect and quit stealing our food. This is our camp. So a couple days go by, John shows back up. We went and picked him up in our non-native Indian carpenter to finish one of the last cabin,
Starting point is 01:02:16 deciding. And I'm telling him, I said, watch out. We got a definitely got a Sasquatch on the island. I've seen him twice. Ah, you're full of it. No such thing as Sasquatch. And, you guys think we're in Iraq or something, walking around with rifles. Like, dude, you should have been here the last couple of days.
Starting point is 01:02:36 So anyway, he's working away, and I'm doing my. my thing and all of a sudden I had this feeling and I just looked. I looked up the bank through the alder trees because the leaves are gone now and then through the standing hemlock and there's like a hole in the hemlock line and this big cedar stump I'd been to that was you know logged in 1927 and it's massive probably 10 foot in diameter and I'm looking I'm looking I don't want to remove my eyes that's the worst thing to do with Sasquatch so I'm like Darcy go get me that scope for my rifle, the box. He comes over and gives it to me. I'm like, take the out of the box and crank it a three to nine power. He's not too smart, Darcy. So I crank it up. He cranks it up and I lift it up
Starting point is 01:03:20 and I put it on that stump. And there, like me, covered in older leaves, is this huge daddy Sasquatch with shoulders I got staring at us. We're all passing the scope around. The white guy, sorry, but no offense, but the white carpenter, he's like, hands up. the chief don't pay me enough for this. I'm out of here. He starts packing all his tools up. All of a sudden, that Sasquatch just stood up, leaves falling off it. And I'm looking at him in scope.
Starting point is 01:03:53 He stood up, turned, walked away, put scope in the box. I looked at Darcy and John, and I said, I think I just pissed higher up the tree than that daddy Sasquatch. I think they're going to leave now. Swim off the island. Peace. But the funny part was about 45 minutes later, I go, Darcy, look, there's our carpenter with this big metal box full of tools. When we brought him in, me and Darcy took everything we could to carry it down the dock to the boat and then from the boat up the beach.
Starting point is 01:04:25 That thing was heavy. And here he is just, he was scared. He was getting off that island. So that's probably the closest I've been to a Sasquatch, five feet. Wow. that is that is extremely extremely intense that that is hard to to beat um i think in a lot of people i've talked to or i hear it from a lot of listeners they're they're always asking you know um i think they're trying to figure out if if saskatch interactions are usually peaceful or if there's
Starting point is 01:05:03 ones where they're they can be more aggressive and they can actually you know maybe cause harm to people, but you don't really hear a lot of those, or maybe it's that you're not talking to the right people. Have you heard any of those where things just, it gets really, really off the rails, I guess you could say. It's because you end up being a steaming turdre half a dozen in the forest from Sasquots. Swasquots like eating beans, some of them, human beings. That's why when you interview and research the names of Sasquatch in native languages and the translations to England, English, cannibal from the mountains, cannibal giant of the forest from my tribe,
Starting point is 01:05:48 cannibals from the bushes and so forth. The Indians are telling you something. We know what a Sasquatch is. Some of them are cannibals. So what are we telling you? Well, only a species that eats its own species can be termed a cannibal. Hence, the other tribe, Sasquatch, they're humans.
Starting point is 01:06:07 And I firmly believe that. They're humans at the night. They're my Adam and Eve. I evolved to be smaller, hairless, and I lose my nocturnal vision, but still have stinky armpits when I don't bathe for a week, because that's a remnants of my scent glands, just like every other human. So we come from Sasquatches, take a Neanderthal, and everyone thinks it looks like Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:06:30 It looks like a Caucasian off the banks of the Thames River 2,000 or 200,000 years ago. But you darken up. you know, Jesus should look like he comes from Jerusalem, dark skin, dark hair, you know, not wavy, hippie type look. Neanderthal always looks like a European Caucasian. Put some hair and black skin on it. What's a Neanderthal look like now? Pronounced filtrum, the distance from the upper lip to the bottom of the nose, big jaw, ridge lines on its eyebrows. And Neanderthal, when you look at their skulls, you know, it's not conical, but it is a little bit less rounded than we are now.
Starting point is 01:07:13 So put some hair and darken skin in Neanderthal, and you got a Sasquatch. So that's where we come from. So we know that Neanderthal were cannibals. We know that every human race on all six continents, most of us practice cannibalism. I come from Hamas, a clan society. even moats that are dried up, archaeologically dug in Europe and eastern Asia, produce bones that were cracked for marrow, burnt, stewed. So even the Caucasian ancestors were cannibals back in the day.
Starting point is 01:07:49 You can imagine how many Irish got eaten because the potato plague back in the day when everyone was starving. Any animal will do whatever they need to do and eat. in order to survive in times of starvation. So we've all been cannabis at one time or another, even the Andes when the plane crash took place, even in 47 in northern Canada, the Inuit, when starvation went rampant during the wintertime. And that's why they moved all the Inuit into the hamlets,
Starting point is 01:08:19 where they now are, because they couldn't fend from themselves out in the hostile Arctic because most of their people had died from smallpox, influenza and tuberculosis, like every other Indian, is including Sasquatch. So when we look at cannibalism, Sasquatches, like me in 2008, 2007, I got sued for $640,000. Lost everything. My home, my $280,000 tour boat, my $67,000 kayak fleet, watched my bank accounts get garnished
Starting point is 01:08:51 overnight for $84,000. And my wife at the time, the mother and my children, good thing, she had a degree. she took a job up in northern British Columbia offshore in Hydegoi, Queen Charlotte Islands, as a social worker. Eight months later, she pointed to the door and told me to get the beep out. The court case, losing everything, had destroyed our common law marriage. So I left, and when I was coming on the ferry with my Jeep Cherokee loaded with my bush gear, fishing gear, carving tools, and native art books, I had one thing on my mind. I was going to go rogue, hunt down those two SOBs that sued me,
Starting point is 01:09:28 and that would be the end of it. And when I pulled into Campbell River, I was on the verge of my postal snap that we hear about people putting a banana clip after they get garnished sheet, child support, court cases, can't see their children and go mow down everyone in the building. That's where I was.
Starting point is 01:09:45 I wanted to go there. I wanted to go rogue Sasquatch. I wanted to go cannibal on those two SOBs that sued me. But when I pulled into Campbell River, hoaxing and building and driving my rage and fury into the deepest of dark red because that's where I needed to be. I needed to be like
Starting point is 01:10:03 Buckbuck all a nuke's way to cannibal from the north end of the world spirit. I needed to be possessed by him for what I was about to do. But when I pulled in the Campbell River, a hotel that always has a quote every month from the Christian manager.
Starting point is 01:10:18 It said, success is not success is not defined on how how you reach. It's how how you bounce when you hit rock bottom. it took me about three or four hours until I let the rage go away from me. And I said, I'm going to make a better choice. I'm going to bounce.
Starting point is 01:10:40 And I've been bouncing ever since. But I know what it's like to get on that edge of being going postal. So when a Sasquatch gets toppled by a younger, more stronger male, because that's A.K.E.K.E.K.E. the creator's code, God. And then he loses his mate, loses his children, loses his clan, loses his territory. And some of them just go trumping and find a new fife to bump uglies with and have more children and develop a new clan and territory.
Starting point is 01:11:10 But some of them, they go rogue. Something snaps. They go postal. And they start killing for the fact of just the enjoyment of killing. I've seen the torn apart turkey carcasses, coyotes, deer, and smelling of carrying and maggots. covered because he didn't eat him. He was just killing him. And we beat feet and got out of there. I've seen many, many Canadian geese killed with the who's killing stole that round? That's one of them from the killing fields where that rogue Sasquots was killing geese and
Starting point is 01:11:49 this killing him, ripping them apart. And I kind of suspect he was eating the heart and the heart in them, though, and the liver because those were missing. And, uh, so, so, so. So all of a sudden, the rogue Sasquatch comes across berry pickers, chelfish diggers, mushroom pickers, hikers, and the human is the easiest and stupidest animal on this planet. They're easy to kill and harvest. I like eating beans. This tastes pretty good. That was an easy hunt.
Starting point is 01:12:21 A lot better than going after deer and elk. No horns to poke you. Kind of, I did get burning eyes when they hit you with that spray, but. Boy, kind of made my meat taste a little better. You know, so they go cannibal. And they learn that I like hunting humans. They're easy. They're tasty.
Starting point is 01:12:42 And you can imagine with the diverse diets that we have here in North America, how tasty we are, you know. I probably taste like McDonald's because I eat a lot of McDonald's. But other people probably taste like tofu because that's what they eat. And other people probably eat like fish because they eat a lot of that. So you see what I'm getting that. So the Sasquatches that go rogue, they're psychotic hunter killers. And for them, it's a beautiful place to be.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Even our own hairless bipedal population, Hannibal to Cannibal. Yeah, it was fiction, but we know of the nonfiction Hannibal cannibals that the police have caught just in the United States and Canada in my lifetime since I started watching news at about 15. So when you're in an area of a rogue, beat feet. and get out of there. And they are evil. They are hunter killers. And we were three of us back to back one time shooting warning shots pushing down to the beach because we got close to a group of Sasquatch that went right psychotic on us, throwing things. And I've been in that situation a couple
Starting point is 01:13:53 of times, you know, a lot of people are listening. This guy has a lot of encounters. We had a lot of encounters where you're using flush toilets and electricity and running water. I was living out in the bush sleeping in the hammock. If not, I was on a boat anchored out somewhere, but still going ashore deep in the bush. You're scouting for two weeks or more on end for grizzly bears for my two hunting seasons every year, all by myself. You know, me and my cousin used to get off on a boat or get dropped off. We'd go up a logging road beside a river, through the timber, through the alpine, through the ice field, come down the next alpine, go through that timber, out that drainage, then do it again.
Starting point is 01:14:31 We were gone for months sometimes because, Carte A Dia, I was able to go on tops of mountains, put out my arms, and spin. Why? Because I could. And that's how I got my encounters with Sasquatch. Yeah, I mean, that's the number one lesson, which Uly and I just had a conversation about this today, is just if you want to have a sighting, you've got to put the hours out in the field. you got to get out there.
Starting point is 01:14:57 That's how it's going to happen. So one more thing about, you know, the rogue Sasquatch. So what I'm getting from that then, and let me know if I didn't get it right, is the number one indicator that you're around a rogue Sasquatch is finding, like, animals that are just torn apart or dead all over the place, or are there other indicators as well? Well, if you do happen to come across the killing area, there's usually pockets. One I noticed was close to the beach. His other killing field was upriver where the wolves and the other animals were harvesting the salmon and shallow water.
Starting point is 01:15:41 But generally what you're going to see is you're going to see that. And then all of a sudden they're just going to do like a predatory bear. They're just going to look at you, fixate on you, and come straight at you. And when that happens, as happened to me, cousin Wayne and I when we're up in the alpines, Sasquatch come around to outcropping. And we're in an alpine meadow. And we were probably 300 yards away from it.
Starting point is 01:16:08 They just stopped. And we were in the upwind position so he could smell us. He was downwind of us. He just stopped, looked at us, and all of a sudden he just started walking towards us. And he quit. Like, Sun Squads like to move their arms. They like to walk all funky.
Starting point is 01:16:23 but he just kept his arms on his side, leaned forward, and he was just beating in on us. I looked at Wayne, and I said, I ain't putting up with that. That's a rogue. And I just, boom, 12 gauge off in the air. He stopped, re-evaluated the situation, and made a big scream, turned, walked up to the mountainside. So, you know, they're out there, you know, and then, you know, David Palli is my good friend. You know, missing 4-1-1, he made a empire out of the mountain side.
Starting point is 01:16:53 of all the missing people. And, you know, some of those people, natural causes, animals, falling down, avalanches, whatever. But there's that small percentage that even with 25,000 plus missing people, if you put a percentage of 2% got taken out by Sasquatch, that's still in the hundreds, if not thousands. So something to think about. Absolutely. Tom, this has been just a fascinating conversation.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Thank you so much for spending some time with us and being able to answer some questions. It's not every day that we're able to talk to someone who has the knowledge that you are privy to. So it's awesome to have you on.
Starting point is 01:17:38 And I just want to remind people real quick that when do you consider the Bigfoot Museum to be open? Is it still in the planning stages? June 1st. We've got
Starting point is 01:17:52 The castes coming in and are in. Got the Renata regalia. It's just a question now. Peggy, my wife, will be here on the weekend with our five gallons of paint to start painting the walls. Once I get the paint on, then I just got some, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:06 me and Peggy are carpenters. So we'll start banging things together, putting things up. We own, Ken and Lori that own Sasquatch Legend.com. They own Source 1 plastics in Arizona and just outside of Phoenix and in Alabama. and they make plastic, plexiglass, everything. So we're going to have, like you see Cliffs Museum and others with plastic acrylic boards.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Well, we're making the designs. They're going to build them, ship them to me. And, you know, it's just a matter of putting them up with screws and we'll have the museum open. I'm going to be there five days a week, if not more. If someone's phone says, I can only make it there Saturday is any way Tom can be there at 1 o'clock. I will be there. You know, say going to Graceland and, you know, you come to Forks to the Sasquatch, biggest Sasquatch Museum and store in North America.
Starting point is 01:18:53 It's like going to Graceland and Elvis ain't the mansion. You know, you want to see Elvis. So if you come to Forks, I'm going to be in the back room. My worker will be out front doing ice cream and running the till and taking care of customers. And when you pay your fee for the museum, you're going to come in. And I'm going to be back there to walk you through and explain everything. My encounters, I'm going to put wooden benches we own that are big, live edge slab lumber.
Starting point is 01:19:22 I'm going to put them out in front of Biggie, the eight and a half foot mannequin with all of the regalia beside it. There'll be a video because happy wife, happy life. I can't get my wife dancing regalia every day. She'll divorce me or shoot me. So we'll have a video there so I can turn it on and say, this is inside a big house.
Starting point is 01:19:39 This is the Chuna'ha. This is the be because. This is what this whole means. So it's, you know, it's something that it's going to be really unique. You know, you're going to be able to know,
Starting point is 01:19:48 I could only wish I could go to wherever Renee from finding Bigfoot lives, I think it's Seattle, Maraya Mayor, even though I met her when I was on Discovery Channel's Expedition Bigfoot, season six when they were filming. Bo, Bo I've met, but I'd like to go to where he lives and others that are all Sasquatch celebrities. But to be able to go there and actually sit down and spend an hour, hour and a half, chatter, chatter, chattering like Sasquatch is with him about Sasquatch.
Starting point is 01:20:18 that's bucket list. And that's what I'm going to give everyone the opportunity. You can come. I'm 60 years old. I smoke. I've had two heart attacks. You know, you might want to buy my book where you're there
Starting point is 01:20:28 or one of my autographed, whatever is because it's 15 to 20 years when I'm pushing up daisies, they're going to be collector's items. You know, it's like that secret here. You know, Bob Gimlin, out of the goodness of his heart, signed it.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Right. That's a treasured for me forever. Oh, absolutely. And this right here is the famous Sasquatch Island for the fame. You know, Tom Keltrell, signature, Dr. John Binderbenagle, Peter Byrne, you know, Dr. Jeff Neldrum, and all the other living celebrities are on him
Starting point is 01:21:02 and more to come. You know, they're running to you. I've got to get you to sign it. But, you know, that's what it's all about. We're Sasquot celebrities. We have a role. We have a job to do. We have to be honorable to our fans.
Starting point is 01:21:16 And we got to do like, Russell Crow in The Gladiator, after all done? Are you not, after James? Right. That's what I always do at conferences. Exactly. And does love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:29 That's Tomass. Right. Exactly. And one other thing I want to point out for the museum really specifically because some of the ultra bigfoot nerds will think this is cool. So we have alluded to it, but the things that Uli brought over, they're in a way connected to Frank Knieister, which is, you've heard about, I've talked about him on the show and I got to spend time with him last July and he passed away, which is so sad. He was taken very young through an accident. But that's the only museum you're going to be able to see that stuff connected with Frank. And so it's going to be a very special place. I need to get over there to see it. But Tom, is there anything else that you'll want to remind listeners of how they can keep up to date with what you're doing before we end our time today.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Well, if anyone has anything to want to donate to the museum, I'd be happy to put it up and have a name and everything like Frank. He's, I told Uli, I need a picture of you and Frank or just Frank, and I want to have an area that's, you know, in commemoration, an honor of him for you and him donating these pieces. But the main thing is, you know, Sasquatch Legend.com, we have a vast online store. I know most people can't make it the forks. But, you know, if you're interested in anything, Sasquatch or Twilight, because we have a big Twilight session,
Starting point is 01:22:52 and go on it, SasquatchLegion.com, order away all if you want. I have one guy. I was like, really? He goes, you know, the two shirts that you're going to package for me. Could you, like, videotape it? So I had to bring my selfie stick and mount it up. And here's me, you know, packaging things and putting his stickers in there because we give everyone half a dozen free stickers
Starting point is 01:23:15 and the business card. And, you know, it's kind of weird, but that's what he wanted. That's awesome. Tom Cewitt packaged by stuff I bought. Good stuff, good stuff. I'll have links to all Tom's stuff in the show notes and in the description for this episode. But Tom Cee would thank you so much for spending some time with us today.
Starting point is 01:23:35 We'll have to keep in touch with you in the future to see what comes up next for you. Oh, yeah. Get me on for another episode. Talk about the conspiracy with the government, Sasquatch. But I thank everyone for listening in my language. Alacula, go in peace. Have you ever heard all the accounts of Bigfoot activity around Oak Ridge, Oregon?
Starting point is 01:23:56 And you think to yourself, man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what? This year, you can. If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summerfest is coming up July 10th through the 11th, 2026. It's going to be even better than the previous year's reason number one. I'll be one of the speakers.
Starting point is 01:24:23 It's going to be wild. I'll probably, I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else because let's just say sometimes it's, well, you just got to be there. We'll leave it that. More about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series searching for Sasquatch.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Well, this year, you can not only go to the festival, but you can also sign up for a trek deep in the wild forest outside of Oak Ridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot. but there's only eight spots to sign up for this. And yes, this will also be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is searching for Sasquatch. This is a once-in-lifetime deal. It's just, trust it's going to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest.com, and listeners can use the code BSP, like Bigfoot Society podcast,
Starting point is 01:25:37 in order to get a two-day pass for the price of a one-day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so that you guys can get a little help with the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you at the booth in Oak Ridge this year. We can talk about your encounter.
Starting point is 01:26:02 I was able to talk to so many people last year and the year before. it is an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it, and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch, or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a national park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,
Starting point is 01:26:34 or if you're with the FBI, a federal agency, or working intelligence, and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense, if you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field or trucker with government contracts, and you've had something happen that you've never told a soul, and if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under contract, who has found evidence you're not allowed to report, if you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a spiritual retreat, and you saw something that shook your faith,
Starting point is 01:27:14 or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or anything with clearance, and you've seen what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you. Even if it's anonymous, you can reach me at bigfoot society at gmail.com the world needs to hear what you've been forced to carry alone and you're not alone you've got the story we've got the mic see you in the woods thank you for listening to this episode of the bigfoot society podcast every encounter we share reminds us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think and that the truth is often
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