Bigfoot Society - A Hunter's Close Encounters with Sasquatch in Montana's Tobacco Root Mountains

Episode Date: March 6, 2023

Get ready for an exciting episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast! Join us as we chat with Leslie, a skilled Midwestern hunter and outdoorswoman. In this episode, Leslie shares her spine-tingling encounters with the legendary Sasquatch, including a heart-stopping experience while bowhunting in the Boundary Waters region of Minnesota and not one, but three hair-raising encounters in the Tobacco Root Mountains of Montana.Listen in as Leslie recounts her encounters with Sasquatch in detail, including the terrifying moment when a Bigfoot seemed to be pacing her, her son, and the rest of the hunting party. If you're a fan of Bigfoot lore and the great outdoors, you won't want to miss this episode! Tune in now and join us as we dive into this captivating and unforgettable story.----------If you have a Bigfoot encounter you would like to share on Bigfoot Society please contact me at [e-mail] for more info.----------Hey all - I am making a private Facebook group “Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters”. Feel free to apply to join and share the link with those that have had encounters in other groups. Many will apply but not all will be let in. Follow the directions! 🙂 https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_link_______Join us over on Patreon! Get access to extra audio content, exclusive merch like a membership card and stickers, watch me interview guests weekly live on video, a Patron-only Discord and more.https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyPick up a Bigfoot Society shirt to rep the podcast!https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigfootSocietyTune in for new episodes of Bigfoot Society!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7QFor full links go to:www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com

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Just as I was unsnapping that leather strap on my holster, whatever this creature was, it led out a sound of a lot of lung capacity, big lungs, and an exhale with a hot. in disgust. In this episode of Bigfoot Society, we talk to a Montana bow hunter who has an interesting encounter with a rather large creature in the Tobacco Root Mountains of Montana. What happens when the Bigfoot creature gets too close for comfort and the hunting party has to take matters into their own hands?

Find out on this episode of Bigfoot Society. All right, Bigfoot Society. Today I've got the privilege of talking to Leslie, who's an outdoors woman and Bow Hunter. Thanks for coming on the podcast today. Leslie, how's it going? It's going well. Thanks for having me. Now, Leslie, you've had a ton of really interesting experiences, and I love to get into those right away.

So let's get right into it. Okay. Great. Well, thank you again. I'll share a little bit about myself and how I was raised, which will help the listeners kind of understand how I got to most recent encounters out in Montana. So I was born and raised in the Midwest in a suburb of a city outside of St. Paul, Minnesota. And there's a trend in that area to go north for the weekend.

So people do their work week and then they hop in their vehicles and they head north to Lake Country where there's woods and water. and I grew up in this way and I hunted and fished with my dad growing up and I've always had a love for the woods. And so that puts me out into the wild still today where I go fishing and hunting and just foraging for wild berries and mushrooms and things. I just really enjoy the outdoors. My first potential encounter and I did not lay eyes on what this was. occurred in 2000. I was up in the Boundary Water Canoe area, which is in the northern part of the state of Minnesota. It's the boundary of Minnesota and Canada. And I was on a grouse hunting and fishing trip with my dad and several of his friends. I often found myself surrounded by these guys

growing up because they love to hunt and fish too. And that's who I spent my time with mostly. So we were up there and it was midday and I wanted to go grouse hunting. And all the guys wanted to hang back at camp. And so I decided that I was going to just walk on foot and go to a trail. And where we were was if you look at Lake Superior and the west side of Lake Superior in Minnesota and you go up Lake Superior and you find a town named Hoveland, Minnesota, we were northwest of there. about 20 miles. And so I left camp on foot with my 12-gauge shotgun and I was going to go look for grouse. And there was a hiking trail not far from where we camped that headed kind of northeast and away from camp. And so I thought, well, I'll just go walk that trail. And when you're hunting for

grouse, if you don't have a dog to help flush birds, you just walk quietly and listen. And so, At that time, I had no knowledge of Bigfoot activity. I hadn't really done any looking into Bigfoot behaviors or anything of that nature. It just wasn't anything I ever thought about. So I have my shotgun and I'm walking down this path. And the terrain in this area is, if you've watched the show Port Protection, and you see that Port Protection gets a lot of rain. and the ground is mossy and wet.

It seems like it's always wet in port protection. That's a lot like how it is up in the boundary waters. There's a lot of rain. There's a lot of marshland. It's not mossy like it isn't port protection, but it's just wet, muddy, terrain. You don't really want to go off trail. And so there was a hiking trail that was at least five miles long,

if not longer. And I thought, well, I'll just hike down this trail real quiet and look and listen for grouse. And so without a dog, you just walk real slow. try not to make any noise and you might take 20 or 30 steps and then you stop and you listen. And grouse are going to make a real quiet noise that sounds like water droplets. And so you stop and listen and you listen for the grouse to make noise. And you watch for them down on the ground or you might look up in trees. They might be perched there.

But that's what I was doing as I was just taking a hike by myself, very slow. watching for grouse. And I was about probably a half mile down this trail and kind of moderately dense forest around me. And the trail was mostly hard packed mud. So I wasn't making any noise when I was stepping and walking and stepping over rocks. It's a very rocky terrain up there. And I would stop and listen. So at one point I stopped taking a step and listen, then I heard a step off to the side of me. And I forget since it was 2000, I figured it was left or right side of me, but I heard a step of footfall after I stopped walking. And I thought immediately it's probably a grouse. And so I just turned all my attention in that direction and just listened and I heard

nothing. And I stood there waiting for this grouse to move. And nothing moved. And so I just continued taking a few steps. And I thought, I wonder if that grouse is going to move again. And so then I stopped walking again and I heard another footfall after I had stopped walking. And so again, I'm staring in this area and I cannot see what it is that's moving. And I think, well, that's, you know, it's a grouse I can't see. They're pretty well camouflaged and I figured it was just off far enough where I couldn't see it. So I continued to walk and stop, but then I heard a stick break on one time when I stopped walking and the next step and footfall, a stick broke.

And so then I realized I was being flanked by something. And having grown up in the hunting and fishing, I've hunted white-tailed deer, and I've had bear around me and wolves and coyotes and foxes. I hadn't been elk hunting yet at that point in time of my life, but I've heard animals walking through the woods, and this was not an animal with, four legs walking on the ground. It sounded like a, you know, footfall, you know, just like one foot

setting down. So I didn't know what it was and I thought maybe it could have been a mountain lion, but then I wondered if I would hear the mountain lion or not. And so rather than continue on down the path, I just took my gun off safety and I held it kind of at the ready, kind of my arms are folded and my 12 gauge was up, you know, kind of clutching it against my body. So I wouldn't have to bring it up if I had to shoot in some direction. And I turned and I hustled out of there. And I did stop once or twice on my way back down that trail back towards camp. And this creature was still pacing me.

And I couldn't see it. I never saw it. So that was that incident. And I never saw the creature. But I went back to camp and I shared with my dad what had happened. And he said it was probably just a big cat following you, which I've never seen up there. It doesn't mean they don't have. exist, I'm sure they do, mountain lions. But I've never seen one in the wild. So that was the first

incident. And I didn't think much of it after that. I kind of put it in the back of my mind and probably hoped I was never paced again out in the wild. But fast forward to last fall, September 2022, I have a cousin. His name is Mike. And Mike lives in Montana. And he moved from Minnesota out to Montana maybe 40 years ago. And he's an avid outdoorsman, probably one of the best big game hunters I'll ever know in my entire life. Just a real smart hunter and really a good man, good family man. So as a great family. So having my cousin live out there, I've never gone big game hunting or hunting for elk with him.

and I reached out and a couple years ago started traveling out to Montana to bohunt elk with him. Last year was my third year traveling out to bohunt elk with him, and we were in a new location hunting. We were in the tobacco root mountains. And there were three encounters there, which I'll talk about. So I'm going to set this up so you understand who was experiencing these encounters. We had my cousin Mike, who's been an avid hunter his whole life. He's hunted every large game animal you could hunt probably in the U.S. or Canada. He's hunted a lot his whole life. He's just a pro.

Mike was out there bow hunting, a relative on his wife's side of the family. he was hunting with us and my son was along as well so there was four of us and we had been hunting for several days and the relative of Mike's wife he had arched an elk and that elk was in the cooler or in the you know freezer and cooler for a couple days and then or about a day and he was going to go out and do some scouting look for fresh elk tracks because we hadn't been seeing elk that week. They weren't calling. They weren't moving.

It was pretty quiet. So he had already got his elk. So he took off by himself one morning to go scout and look for fresh elk tracks and places. We hadn't been yet in that area in the Tobacco Root Mountain. So he came back to camp after that scouting morning and said that he found a spot where one logging road, ended and he parked his vehicle or his truck and he walked up this draw and found two wallows and wallows for the listeners who aren't familiar with that term that is a mud hole essentially that's created by elk using their antlers and the elk like to roll around in

these mud holes to get mud on their hide on their fur and they like to do it once or twice a day typically. And so there's all sorts of fresh elk sign around these wallows. So we found two wallows. And I'll describe the terrain we were in for this hunt. So he came back from scouting. And he marked the two wallows on his onyx app, GPS style app that we use for hunting. And he shared the coordinates with me. And the decision was made after he had scouted this and found the tracks and found the wallows. So that was the best sign that we had seen all week for elk. And so that was probably the best chance if we were by those wallows to get a chance to arch and elk. I, my son headed up to this area that evening to go sit. And the plan was to hike up to the wallows and to pick the

wallow that looked most active and have my son sit off to if you were looking uphill, have him sit off to the left side of the wallow, and I would sit off to the right side of the wallow at the same elevation. And with the thermals and the mountains, we expected the breeze to come down the mountain and carry our scent downhill towards where we parked. And so we expected all activity at the wallows. If anything was going to happen with elk, we expected it to come from up high to come down to the wallows that afternoon. We parked the truck and we hiked up this drainage area and it's a little bit marshy and mucky and, you know, it's hardwoods and boulders and, you know, you're climbing up this area. And we went uphill up this draw. It took us about an hour and 15 minutes to get up to where these wallows were.

And we got settled down. My son was on one side of the wallow. I was on the other. We're about 30 yards away from where the wallow was, but we could see it. And we were just waiting, and we had agreed. My son and I had agreed we would sit until 7 p.m. And then we would meet back at the wallow and then head back down the draw to where the truck was parked on this dead end logging road. And so while we were sitting there, my son hasn't really looked into Sasquatch or even talking about it. So, you know, he wasn't necessarily a believer or a noor or thinking that that was a possibility or anything. But we were sitting there.

And it was, we had agreed to meet at the wallow. And if anything came up, although neither one of us were expert out-callers, very novice, probably sounded pretty sick making a call. If anything came up, we would call to each other and then meet at the wallow. So we were sitting there. it was very quiet. There was no wind. I could hear nothing moving. No, no animals, no pine squirrels, nothing. And I heard a tree knock and that tree knock was uphill from us, you know, a little higher elevation, but it was more over on the left side of the wall where my son was sitting, but up the draw from him, so further up. And it didn't sound like it was too too much.

much further up. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages. And so much like getting the attention of a dog when the dog's ears go up and it's headcocks to the side, when that tree knock happened, I immediately all of my energy focused on that area and I was just looking. And this is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeets World.

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And I hear a second knock. Same exact location. And I thought that is a tree knock and I got my cow bleat like reed out of my pocket. And I made a cow talk noise which wasn't great. And my son recognized that it was me calling to him. And he answered my call with him. his cow talk and he started getting his, he took his, you know, arrow out of his bow and put it in his quiver and was kind of getting ready to walk and meet me at the wallow. I looked at my

phone at that point, which was in my pocket. I never thought in that moment to take my phone on my pocket because when you're out hunting, especially bow hunting, you want to be as still as possible, as little movement as possible because the animals will pick up on it. And so the last thing you want to do is quickly reach for something if you think an animal is coming. So I just, I didn't get my phone out before this. Had I thought it was going to be a big foot or possibly a big foot, I, you know, you'd think, why wouldn't you just grab your phone and start recording at least the tree knocks or something? But that was the furthest thing for my mind. It was really fear and shock. I think I was kind of going into in that moment. So I cow talked to him, he cow talked back. He started getting his

stuff packed up to move to meet me at the wallow, as did I. And I heard this creature, whatever it was, which was up the draw and maybe a little left of me more in my son's direction. I heard it take some steps, you know, it was like three or four steps. If you looked up the draw, up the mountain, it went from left to right, and then it came down the draw on the run. right-hand side of me. And all I heard was three or four steps. And I heard it break a twig downhill from me, but off to my right-hand side when it had started uphill for me on my left-hand side. So three or four footfalls, it covered 75 yards or more, 100 yards. It just, it covered so much ground in those step, step, step, when it snapped a twig. I don't know what could cover

that much ground in those few steps unless I didn't hear the steps in between those and they were shorter or if there was more than one creature around me but the directions of the steps were that way from upper left and then it went across above me in elevation and then came down to my right hand side was heading down the draw in the direction of where my truck was parked so I meet my son at the wallow he walks up to it I walk up to it and he said what was that and I said what was that and I said did you hear? We talked about it. I said, let's get off the mountain. And when I had grabbed my phone and looked at it after I cow talked to him, it was 10 minutes to 7. And we had agreed to meet at 7 o'clock at the wallow, but I couldn't wait. I had to get out of there in that moment. And I was worried

that these knocks were over by him. And he only had a 9mm he was carrying, and I was carrying a 10. And so I at least wanted to get us together. So we at least had those two handguns, you know, together versus just his alone should something happen that was you know requiring us to pull our guns so i said let's get out of here it took us an hour and 15 minutes to get up it took us about 20 minutes to get down we semi ran down the draw to get to the truck so we're moving pretty quick um we went back to camp my cousin and the relative from his wife's side were there at camp They didn't go out hunting that afternoon. They were processing the elk that this other, the other person with us harvested, you know, the day before.

So they were in camp processing. There were no other hunters around. There were no other vehicles around. Really kind of out there by ourselves. So we go back to camp and I share with them what happened and what we heard with the knocking and the walking. and the gentleman with us that had harvested the elk, he said, oh, the same thing happened to me this morning. So he experienced exactly, or what I thought was exactly what my son and I had experienced that morning. But he gave us the coordinates to go back up there that evening to sit for the hunt.

And so we went up there not knowing that that had happened to him. But I described where this creature walked and its footfalls and how far it got. And he said exactly the same thing in terms of the knocks and the where they came from and the walking away. So I thought that was too much of a coincidence to not cause alarm for me. And so sitting around that evening, we decided that the next day, the four of us were going to go hunt that area because that's where the elk tracks were. And we really wanted to harvest another elk. And so that particular area in the Tobacco Rout Mountains, the road that I had parked on the night before and walked up, that was a lower logging road. There was a logging road above this area as well.

So you could drive the upper logging road and park and then walk down this draw. So the next morning, my son and this other gentleman drove on the upper logging road and parked. and the plan was for them to come down the draw. I'm going to say it's east, east of the wallows. That's where they came down the draw. And they stopped at the same elevation as the wallows. And my cousin, Mike and I parked at the lower area where my son and I parked the night before and went up the draw.

And we went up to where the wallow was that my son and I were hunting on. At the same elevation, the other two guys were at. And together at that time, they were bugling and cow talking back and forth. We were, as two separate groups, to try and get some elk moving in the area, to see if we could create some excitement for elk so that we could maybe see one. So this other gentleman would bugle or cow talk, and then my cousin, who's an expert caller, he would do the same back or a similar call or answer. So we did this for a little while until my cousin and I were standing by the wallow and doing this cow talk and bugling and just having periods of quiet time, you know, 10 minutes of just standing there listening. And then there would be more talking, you know, cow talking or whatever. We were hunting, basically.

There was a treenoch in the same spot it happened the night before. and the same spot that happened to the other gentleman the morning before. And I just looked at Mike, and he said, was that a tree knock? He looked at me. And I just shook my head yes or said yes or something real quiet because the woods were so quiet. And so he reaches down and he grabs a stick that he finds, and it was thicker than a baseball bat. But he found a stick, and he just held one. finger up to me, like, hang on a second. And he whacked that stick on the tree to knock back.

And when he did that, his stick broke into many pieces. It was like a rotten branch or something. But it was a knock. And he dropped that piece that was still in his hand and we stood there. And this thing knocked back. So it responded to his knock. And again, this thing is so close to us. we couldn't see it, but it was like knocking what would be probably if you're in thick woods, imagine 20 yards away or 30 yards away. That's 20 large steps or 30 large steps away is where this knock came back from. And it just felt like it was just so close to us. And I looked at him and probably used some colorful language and said, let's get out of here. And unbeknownst to me, He was angled away from me, and he carried his big bear gun on his right hip, kind of in his ribcage area.

And my gun is a chest holster gun with a leather strap that goes over it to hold it in the holster. And I didn't know this, but he unholstered his gun. And that side of his body was facing away from me. That side of his body was facing the direction of where this tree knocking was coming from. So he unholsters his gun and looks at me and he makes a motion with his hand for me to unsnap the leather strap that straps my 10 millimeter into its holster on my chest. And so when he told me to do that and get ready, like maybe I went ashen or all white or something. I was just so, it was pretty scary. So I knew a guy who spent his life hunting in the mountains for a large game, for him to unholster his gun because he feels a threat.

That's pretty serious in my book. And I have a lot of respect for his honey knowledge and everything. So when he's telling me to get ready, I unsnapped that leather strap and I grabbed on to my gun. I didn't unholster it, but I was ready to if I needed to. So I had my bow in one hand and my other hand up on my handle of my gun. And just as I was unsnapping that leather strap on my holster, whatever this creature was, it let out a sound that I've heard somebody describe in another podcast recently. Actually, Mike called my attention to it, my cousin.

But it was a sound of a lot of air leaving a lot of lung capacity, you know, big lungs, and an exhale with a huff in disgust. So if you can imagine just the most disgusted, loud huff that if I could assign an emotion to it, I would say disgust. And it was probably about the same time that Mike was unholstering his gun. He unholstered his gun, looked at me and gave me the motion to unsnap that leather strap, which I did, and this thing huffed. And he turned to face the direction of where this thing was huffing from. And it then walked in the same direction. It had walked for my son and I the night before, in the same direction it walked for the other gentleman the morning before. And it went down the hill.

And again, it was just a few steps and it was out of there. So I said we needed to get out of there and he agreed and we walked in the direction of where the other two guys were, same elevation. We headed, I'm going to say to the east or to the right and walked over to them and they had heard the tree knocks and they heard the walking because it had walked down the draw between where we were and where they were. And so we walked over there and we were kind of debriefing on what was going on. And that's when the other gentleman who had already harvested his elk, who was there calling and looking for deer while we were looking for elk, he had said that when he had his encounter 24 hours earlier, that he had unholstered his gun and that this creature did that huff at him as well in disgust. And he said the way that you described it is exactly how it happened to me. And so I'm thinking, wait a minute, you had all this information that you didn't share with us. And then you sent us into this area where all these things happened.

As it turned out, he unholstered his gun. And he ran down the mountain to get out of there. I don't know if he ran, but he got out of there quick because he said that he was, it scared him, whatever it was. He didn't know what it was. So having been, having grown up in the woods and hunting and listened to animals move, I just can't figure out what would have single footfalls and what would make that noise and do the knocks and knock back. And everything keeps coming back to Sasquatch for me. But I didn't lay eyes on it.

I did contact a gay morden about a month after this happened or more to report it or several weeks later to report the incident and provide the question. coordinates and that particular game warden said they lived five miles from that location and would definitely go check it out. So I suggested that he didn't go alone. He would bring someone with because this was, I didn't see any tracks, but it just sounded like a bay animal. It covered a lot of ground pretty quickly. So that is basically the first encounter of whether it was an encounter or not the pacing in 2000 and then these three accounts in the same exact area in the behavior that we encountered can i ask a few questions before okay so that that's absolutely incredible um so your cousin mike is a big game hunter uh i'm sure he's very familiar with the animals in that

area um are there any other animals that could make a huff sound Like that it sounded like he was I mean he he he was ready with his gun for something Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages He absolutely was ready with his gun I didn't know that he unholstered his gun when he told me to get ready you know when he gave me that hand motion to unsnap the leather strap that was holding my gun in, that is when I realized he had unholstered his gun. And that is about the time when this creature did that disgusted huff. And that's when he then turned to face that direction.

And we were both just looking as hard as we could to try and see what... This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeets World. Cat parents unite. We have to look out for each other. Yes, we all know the feeling of being ignored by our little babies a little too well. Yeah, I often wonder to myself, does my cat even love me? Well, there's only one solution to solve that. Sheba.

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I know it bothers him like it bothers me today thinking about it in terms of we just, neither one of us really want to see it or wanted to see it or have the encounter. But to see it then would have put to rest the what was it. But I just don't know what else it could have been. then. The tree knock back. Like if you would say an elk would use its, if an elk took its rack and hit its rack on a tree, if they're going to rub their rack on a tree, they're going to, you know, rub it up and down in a tree. They're not going to hit it like the sound of a wooden bat hitting a telephone pole. Just a real loud, you can imagine the sound. If you were to go outside and do that today, that's the sound. Was that Mike's first potential Sasquatch interaction that you know of? That's an interesting question because he and I have had this conversation a few times. And if he thinks back on hunting in the mountains over the year, you know, 40 years of hunting,

it's a long time. And he said there's been times where roads that were passable would have a log drug over them, and like they would be going in somewhere and then come back out and there's a log drug over the road where they had passed. The when people talk about hearing the the screaming that you can't figure out what it is that's screaming like a woman screaming in the woods and he knows all the animal sounds so you know the cats the foxes the all these sounds he knows them all well and And he had that experience once, but he, like me, never thought about Sasquatch ever until I started asking him questions. After I had heard about the pacing situations and then I thought about my experience in the boundary waters up in Minnesota, northern Minnesota years ago, I then decided to ask him if he'd ever seen anything out of the ordinary. which then started him down the path of listening to some podcasts and doing his own, you know,

armchair research, you know, listening to podcasts, reading, et cetera. That's very, very interesting. Have you guys ever experienced any, you know, something Ken mentioned was experiencing, finding grizzlies, I believe, out there with their necks broken. Is that anything that you've ever run into out there? No. I'm very thankful for that. My fear would be running into a grizzly,

and he's actually run into grizzlies out there over the years when he's been out hunting. And he's never mentioned that he's run into that. Just looking back at that and knowing that there weren't many people around. That entire, we were probably there for I think seven or eight days. We might have seen three other hunters in different places around the mountains. But, I mean, that's a lot of country to hunt.

And it just doesn't make sense to us as we think back on it, that it could have been a prank, you know, by another hunter. hunters just, when they're too busy hunting, to want to prank others in this way, right? Why would a hunter go to the exact same location and treenoch and huff and how would they cover that distance of walking? You know, and just a lot of unanswered questions, but, yeah, that was the extent of the encounters. If you had seen one, you know, had an actual visual, you were ready with, you know, both hands. Is that something you think about, like, what would have I done in that situation? And I don't know what I would have done.

I don't know what I would have done. I knew I had my hand on my gun, you know, I knew he had his gun drawn. I just didn't know. I don't know. I don't want to see one. I didn't want to see one then. I don't want to see one now. I hope I never see one.

If I do it would be in a vehicle, it would be a long distance viewing or somebody else having a really great sighting that gets recorded or something, but I don't ever want to see one. I hope I never do. I would tend to want to retreat just from what I'm hearing about the size of an adult, you know, from other sites. I'd want to retreat and not risk taking a shot. Yeah, that's, that's incredible, it's an incredible story. Since the time that you've had that happen, have you heard of similar other interactions happening in the tobacco root mountains? I have not, and I've been searching for that.

I searched the podcast just to see if anybody else is talking about that location, and I just haven't seen it. And I was looking because I, you know, you're looking for validation of what happened. And I just haven't seen it. I'm fairly sure it wasn't a bear because, and there are grizzlies there, because a bear doesn't have thumbs to hold a piece of wood to hit it on a tree. And I think a bear would either come at you or go away. It wouldn't just tree knock and respond to a tree knock. And, you know, I suppose bears do den or hang out in spots,

but I just wouldn't think three times in a row we would have the same activity in the same place. Unless it was a spot, you know, because this was the only fresh elk sign we had seen really in all the time there, because the elk were just in different locations than where we were, that it might have been if it was a Sasquatch or a grizzly, it was a prime hunting spot for them where they could look down on the wallows. Is that area a place that you would ever go hunting in again, or is that off limits for you now because of that? That's a great question. I'm going to be going back out to Montana elk hunting with the bow again this year. and just haven't decided where we're going to go yet. I don't know that I'd want to go to that specific area,

that specific draw where those wallows were. Because that was, for me, personally, terrifying. First, to have my son there, and of course, as a parent, you want to protect your kids. But then second, to have somebody who knows those mountains so well, act the way he acted. I knew that this was something out of the ordinary. So, yeah, I really don't want to go to that specific spot again, no.

I don't blame you. I really don't blame you. That if it would feel like I've dodged, I've dodged something a few times. I don't know if I want to put myself in that situation again. I don't know if what happens if lightning strikes again, you know. Right. Now, something interesting about this area is that cattle ranchers are allowed to let their cattle kind of free range in this area. And there were cattle at lower elevations in this area.

And so you think about the beef on a cow, you know, and versus elk meat. It's interesting that a cow would be very easy for a creature of this size and speed to catch, where an elk would be difficult to catch or more difficult to catch. So it's just interesting. My cousin and I were talking about the fact that the cows were plentiful, you know, in that area. So that was also interesting. Oh, absolutely. It's like make it the best food source area that you could for a large animal that needs a ton of calories per day.

Let's gift wrap some huge burgers that are. walking around and have at it, boys, you know. Right. That's phenomenal. Man, I'd love to talk to some of those ranchers. I bet they've had some come up missing for sure if they're free range. But, Leslie, that has been, I mean, is it amazing story. Thank you for sharing.

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