Bigfoot Society - A Hunter's Discovery | Michigan

Episode Date: January 26, 2025

Join host Jeremiah Byron in this gripping episode of Bigfoot Society as we delve into Brett's extraordinary encounter with what he encountered that day in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. As a lifelong resident and professional environmental scientist, Brett shares his vivid recollections of a fall day in 1976 when a regular hunting trip turned into a memorable Bigfoot sighting. Hear about his close encounter, the unique gait of the creature, and the unmistakable details that left Brett questioning his initial assumptions and later realizing the significance of what he saw.If you've had similar encounters or experiences, please reach out to [e-mail]. Your story could be the next one we feature!🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Want to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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And if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. Do you wish there was more Bigfoot Society to listen to every week? Well, there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members-only episode every single week on Wednesdays and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society. And now let's get on with the show. All right, Pickfoot Society. We've got the privilege of talking to Brett. Brett is an individual that reached out with some information through the comments over on the YouTube channel, which I do get a lot of my interviews from those YouTube comments. A lot of people ask me if I read all of them. I do read all of them as of right now. But Brett is an individual and he'll be sharing, Brett is an individual that will be sharing something that happened in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. So Brett's privilege to have you on the show today. Thank you. Thank you. Glad to be here, Jeremiah.

Awesome. And before we get started with you sharing what happened, is there anything else that the listeners would need to know about yourself for context before we have you start in on what happened that day? Sure. Sure. I was born and raised in Marquette County, Michigan, and I am a professional environmental scientist, and I have been for 34 years. Fantastic. Well, Brett, what I'm going to have you do is if you wouldn't mind taking us back to as far back as we need to go, you can kind of lay out what happened that day that you had that interaction with Bigfoot up there. Okay. And so this was back in the fall, October of 1976 or 1977. I was a high school kid at the time. And that weekend, we were at my day. My dad's hunting camp, myself, my grandfather, and my dad and his brother and a couple guys that we hunt with.

It was a beautiful Sunday morning when I got up, all of these were in color, and we were there to cut wood for the upcoming firearm deer season. So I'd ask my dad when I got up if I could go for a walk or go grouse hunting for a couple hours before we started wood. Dad said, yes, you can, but I want you back here in two hours. I said, okay. So I grabbed my hat and I grabbed my pump shotgun and off down the road I went and I walked, we had a lot of property and I walked up to this ravine and sat in a seat that was my Uncle Charlie's. And I sat down in the seat for a while to rest because I walked a fair distance and I could hear something coming behind me running very quickly. So I turned around watching here comes the red fox running right at me. I had no intention of harming the fox at all. I was marveling how fast he could run. And also, I wonder what stirred him up because I was the only guy around.

And back then, there were very few people in that part of the county within about a mile at Lake Superior. So he disappeared from my site. I sat a little bit more and I decided I was going to walk back out of the ravine out of the road and check a bear bait station that I had set up for a hunting. I had a bear permit. So it was a bit of a walk to get there. They're probably a good mile to go down these locking rows that dad had to get to the seat. And my bait was on a small knoll.

But I was walking through an area of sugar maple, a sugar maple stand. And it had been damped that morning. We had a frost, and the leaves were thawing, so it was very quiet walking. And I was walking up towards the knoll. I could see where I had tied the pail. of just fish bait I had out there for the bears. And they had been coming for a couple of weeks. And I saw that the pail was pulled down,

which is something I had done by design. Because I knew a bear was up there and it was strong enough to snap the rope to get the pail down. So I walked up onto the knoll. And in front of me was this very large, hairy creature. So I thought at that time was a bear. I didn't really know. anything else. I didn't know about Bigfoot. I knew nothing of that at my age at that time.

And I stood there looking at this thing thinking, that is a really big bear. He was facing away for me. So his butt was facing me. And that's all I could see was his backside. And I was about 50 feet away. I was standing kind of skewed to him. I had my pump shotgun. I wasn't afraid at all because I just thought it was a bear. So I, knew I wasn't going to shoot that bear with a shotgun. I really got myself in trouble with that. My grandfather would have been very unhappy with me. I had no intention of doing it anyway.

I just stand there watching, looking at this very large what I thought was a bear. It picked his head up a couple times and looking around. I had the wind of my face. I could smell him. He smelled bad like a wet dog, as I recall. And I could see the back of his head a couple times. It's kind of a funny shape, not around.

Like I'd seen bears. I'd seen a lot of bears in the woods at that time when I was out in the woods with my dad and my grandpa. And all of a sudden he picked his head up and he was looking around and I couldn't see his front. I could only see the back of his head and his behind. He put his head down one more time. And then he picked his head back up and it took off running straight away for me. And it had a very funny gate. It didn't run like a bear.

It had a funny gate. And the best thing I could describe it was, It ran like a chimpanzee. When I was a kid, we used to watch this TV show called Doc Tari. And Doc Tari had a chimpanzee and chita. And we watched it as kids and we became familiar with that. And that's the best way I can describe it would run. Again, it ran straight away from me down the little knoll.

And then on into the timber. And I stood there thinking, is that thing injured? What is that? Was that an injured bear? and again, I was just a kid. I didn't know. So it disappeared. I shrugged it off and said, I better get back to camp.

Now, dad's going to be waiting for me. And if I'm late, I'll be in trouble. So I turned and walked back to the stand of tamer that I'd gone through before. And I was just about out to the old logging road, and I could hear something to my left. It would walk when I would walk. It would stop when I would stop. And I would look and look and look. Like, what is that?

And I walked out to the road. I looked down the road both ways. I didn't see anything. And then I turned and walked south. I was heading back to the hunting camp. And it happened again. It would walk when I would walk. It would stop when I would stop.

So a couple times I stopped really abruptly, the fool it. And it would take a couple steps and stop. And I was looking, looking. I couldn't see what it was. And it did this and follow me, if you will, off to my left for probably a couple hundred yards. I wasn't scared. I thought, oh, the bear must be following me.

And I wasn't worried at all. I didn't care. I wasn't afraid of anything at that age. And as I got near to the hunting camp, I could hear a chainsaw started up. And that was my dad calling me, get back here. Well, once the chainsaw started up, I couldn't hear it anymore. I got back to camp, and I told my dad and my grandpa and uncle, and the guys, what I had seen, about the fox and then this what i thought was a bear and then it was following me like that and

they all listened to me very intently but they really didn't say anything but i could see in their face like yeah here's a teenage boy with a wild imagination but i said i know what i saw and i know what happened and all these guys were war war two green war of yonavs all big tall guys had fear of nothing, which always was comforting to me when I was growing up to have these guys are all really big guys around me. And that was the end of my experience, but for years, I hadn't put it in the back of my mind. I hadn't thought about it at all until probably 20 years ago or so. My dad was telling me a story where he had walked down one of the ridges at our camp. He's very elderly now, but he was younger. He walked a lot.

and dad was talking about him walking down one of the bridges and he heard a bear bellow well bears don't bellow bears don't make any noise but that was his explanation and i didn't really quiz on him very much i said i mean i didn't say dad what did it sound like well was the bear bellowing well bears don't do that i didn't say anything to him out of respect but when he said that it reminded me of that day that I saw this what I thought was a bearer creature in the woods. And I began wondering, what did I see? By then, Bigfoot was a thing. This would have probably been 2008 when he told him that story. And so Bigfoot was a thing. We were watching stories about it, Patterson Gimlin film, other films. And so I started thinking about my experience,

and then I started thinking about what dad heard. So from there, I again put it out of my head. I didn't think much about it. Life went on. I had gotten married. I had kids. I'd been active duty for seven years. One day I was spending some time with my daughter and my grandchildren.

And my grandchildren loved to hear her stories. And so I told them my story. And I had never told anybody that until probably within the last four years. I subsequently shared that story a couple other times but I never really told anybody at Rachel's that my daughter said Dad you never told us about that when we were little I said well Rachel I kind of forgot about it

up until grandpa was mentioning his experience and all became flooding back to me and it wasn't like I was afraid of ridicule or anything I just life had gone on for me I hadn't thought about it until that time Well, once I did, I decided I wasn't going to talk much about it because people are going to look at me funny and they're going to be ridicule. I just decided to keep it to myself. So I told my other daughter what had happened to me and grandpa's experience.

And they both kind of looked at me kind of funny. But I said, girls, I know what I saw. I know what I smelled. I know what I heard. I know what I experienced. I said, I don't think that was a bad. I'm not sure because I couldn't see the front. But everything about that animal and how it ran and be following,

all these years later, I'm starting to put two and two together. Subsequent, I watch a number of YouTube channels, listen to people share, get their testimony. And I wonder what it was I saw that day, back about 1976, 77. I'd have been 15 at the time, and we knew nothing about the Gimlin film, Patty, or these other experiences that people have, even in the Midwest, what I do now. And I'm glad to share it. It's not like me getting off my chest. I haven't hit it. Just in the last few years, I thought, you know, I've got to share this. I've got to talk about this because something happened to me.

Brett, thank you for sharing that. That is a pretty rare encounter for this podcast because we don't get to hear a lot about the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. We hear a lot about the Pacific Northwest, other kind of popular states with Bigfoot, but it is pretty special to hear something about this particular state, especially up in the Upper Peninsula. Do you mind if I ask you some questions about what you experienced that day? Sure. Awesome. The first thing would be more about the area,

and I'm just looking at the map of Marquette County, and I know things that on the map might not have been specifically there. Back then, I'm not really up with the history about Michigan and the Upper Peninsula, but I do notice that there's a state forest area in South Marquette County. Was it around that area at all? No, northern Marquette County. Okay. Within a mile of Lake Superior and an area that we were in is largely private land.

To this day, it is very heavily wooded. It is remote. And like my dad used to laugh, we could walk so far back in the woods, there aren't even any deer. It's not quite like that anymore, but it was then. Interesting. Do you think there could be to this day Bigfoot activity up in that area? In our area where our hunting camp is, I don't know Jeremiah anymore because there's more people around. But as you get up towards the more northern tip of Arcade County, it's in the Huron Mountains, that's very possible.

It's very remote, large, large tracts of private land that people don't get around in much. because it's private. And it would not surprise me. And there's lakes and game and fish and heavily wooded. It would not surprise me. We have timber wolves. My brother got a photo of a mountain lion. And Westwood there in Noggin County.

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You never know what you're going to run to because once you get further away from the cities like Marquette, when they got issuing, it's still, to this day, very remote. Interesting. Now, your sighting is also unique because it sounds like for most of the sighting, really you just saw a back view of the creature, correct? Yeah, I was about 50 feet away. I mean, I was fairly close, but all I could see was him or her.

down on the ground, you know, cleaning up the fish parts that I had in the pail. It was eating those. I really couldn't hear it per se, but I could smell them. Oh, yeah. So it was eating the fish parts. Now, was it using its hands to eat the fish or just like, you know, putting its head down there and chew and chown down on them? So there's a lot of ferns.

Black and Fern. And so I couldn't really tell if it was using his hands or just using it, you know, eating it is with his mouth. That's a very good question. I couldn't see. I couldn't tell. You also mentioned that you had called out specifically its backside, which is very interesting.

Was there any detail about the backside that really jumped out to you in your memory or was just like, man, that's just, really weird. My first thought at that age was this is a really big bear. I mean, it's furry or hairy,

dark, not black. And black bears aren't necessarily black either. There's always a little tinge of cinnamon or brown. And this animal had the same thing. I would say that the fur was probably around four inches long. It was pretty thick. No tail.

There was no tail. I could see the muscles in know in its hink quarters and on his flanks but there was some fern so i couldn't see his feet and if i'd have been able to see his feet then i wouldn't have said oh wow but i could not see his feet but i could clearly see this animal it was big and i was not afraid i was not anything it was marveling at what i thought was a very big bear interesting at that time then whatever you saw was standing up on two legs.

Four. It was on four. And it ran on four. It ran on four. And it's gaited. How it ran out four was not like a bear I have seen. And I spent all my life

at that time I was only 50 or 16. And it was my dad and my grandpa. And we spent a lot of time. And seen bears and other animals. And we just spent a lot of our lives looking for them and looking at them. But that thing ran like something I hadn't seen before. That was remarkable.

Now, you already called out that it was very chimpanzee-like. For those who may have not seen that before, are you able to describe what it's like when a chimpanzee runs? It's like its front legs are like reaching out to grab something. it's back legs it's kind of a hop like chimpanzee would hop they tend to run a little sideways

I watch some videos since then and when I saw like a cheetah on dark tar run I watch the YouTube here I looked like I said there it is that's how it ran

I couldn't see the front though I can only see the great big butt and watch it run through the brush and Matt very quickly but I could see his front legs like it wasn't grabbing something. And I thought, well, that's an odd gate. And I thought, hmm, what if that thing is injured? It's got to hurt back or it's flanks or hurt or something because it's not running like any bear I'd ever seen.

Was there any tail to what you saw? No. No, I couldn't see a tail. You really couldn't see a tail on a Black Bear either, but no. And nothing stuck out to me as remark about that. just a very big backside. So when you look at, you know, some frames of the Patterson-Gimlin film, or even if you watch it, you can really see the muscles, especially in the legs.

And I'm going to shout out my buddy, Jonathan Easley, for pointing this out to me. You can really see those muscles ripple. Was that anything where you could see the muscles at all when this thing moved away from you? Yeah. Yeah, I could see his glutes, but you can see it on a bear sometimes too. I could see his glutes when it ran. I could see that and what was, you know, tissue under the fur on its flank. I really got my best look at it was the from the back and a little bit to the left,

but it just ran straight away from me. But, yeah, I was close enough. I could see, I could see his glutes, you know, his butt muscles and his legs. And again, at that age, Jeremiah, I thought nothing of it. I just thought that was another bear and it had a very weird gait. Absolutely. Was the whole thing covered with hair? Yeah.

Okay. What color? Brown and dark, I would say black with some brown to it. No, I never saw its belly or its chest or neck or face because it was away from me. But what I saw was about, it was about, about four inches long, I would say. thick and and black, nearly black to brown, very dark, very, very dark, I would say. If you asked me back in that day, I'd say it was black. Were there parts that you could see that had either worn down hair or was the hair pretty

much the same all the way around? On his backside, it looked all the same to me. Okay. Interesting. He had a funny head. He had a funny head, though. You picked the head up a couple of times that did not have the shape of a normal bear. I'm not going to say it's pointy. People say conical. I say, yeah, kind of conical.

But I've seen a lot of bear in my life at that point. And that was the other thing. I thought, well, that's kind of a funny shape, Ted. And then the way it ran for two things that stick out in my mind. Did it seem to have a neck at all that you could see? Yeah, a little bit. When it ran, yeah, when it ran on all four, you can see the head sticking out from the, from the shoulders a little bit, which were big, but the whole animal was big. But it had that gate were not normal.

So getting, having that viewpoint, did you, were you able to see any years on the head at all? No. No, no, nothing sticking up like a bear. Nope. And I think that would be, well, I'm going to ask you, what if you, thinking of everything that you remember that day, what would you say was the number one detail that made you be like, oh, yeah, that was not a bear? The gate. How it ran. The gate set me out, Jeremiah, and then the other little parts I thought about over years coming together.

But it was the gate. I've seen lots of bear. I have hunted bear. This thing, this creature did not run like a Michigan black bear. Nope. Nope. How would, how does a Michigan black bear usually, how would they usually move in that type of situation? Run like a dog.

Okay. Run like a dog. A big dog. Also, I would think, the other, the other big thing for me would be, that no visible ears. That is, that's a huge deal. Looking at pictures of bear, like, so I'll ask you, I mean, you usually would be seeing visible ears if you were dealing with an actual bear, correct?

You would see them. The bigger the head, the smaller the ears look. But you always see that ears sticking up, no matter what. You'll see the ears. And only a couple of people and my girls, too, said, Daddy, could you see any ears in that thing? And I had to think back and be objective about it. I mean, I'm an environmental scientist.

So I'm also the world's biggest skeptic walking on. You've got to prove things to me. Right. And so being objective about it, running it through my mind and said, you know what, I did not. I did not see, I did not see years. I did not see a tail. And I just saw a really big butt. when it was running away from you were you at any time able to see the bottom of the feet at all

yeah yeah no hair okay no hair black bears don't have hair in the bottom of their feet either right do you remember any color of what the skin looked like gray okay yep because it would flash i could see him running until he got about 60 yards out. Then it just all I could see was this big black thing running through the woods really fast. But yeah, when he took off, yeah, I can see the bottom of him. But I've seen that before. And again, at that age, I was that, Jeremiah at the point was thinking it was just another bear. But they were gray, black bear feet gray.

Depends to being walking through clay, his feet are going to be the color the soils he in. Right. I was going to stand of sugar maple. and hemlock. So there's nothing like that around us. It's all these. So those feet would be fairly clean, one would think.

But that's a good question. And that's what I saw. A Yacot could see the street. When it was running, do you think it was able to run at the same amount of speed that a bear would? Or what did it seem to be faster? Yeah. Yeah, black bear, even a big black bear can run really fast.

Okay. And this thing moved really fast. what I say is faster than a bear, because of the gate was so different than a bear. I can't judge that. But I can tell you that when it took off running, it disappeared very quickly. Did you see anything that made you think that the arms and the legs were the same length, or maybe they were different lengths? Well, I think about this second.

And because it ran with a different gate and like a chimp, I looked at that thing, too, is there, you know, the front legs look longer than the back. But then the bears can look like that. But it's the gate is what was through me. The front legs were definitely longer. And I couldn't, you know, make up the pause. But you can see when it runs, it's like it's reaching for something. Like it's trying to grab a hold of the earth and pull itself forward. That's what it looked like.

That's not what it was. one or she. But that's what it looked like to me. Like it was reaching out to grab. Bear doesn't run like that. Mm-mm. Baird not run like that. I've seen them run lots of times. Not like that. That is, it's extremely interesting. It'd be interesting to see if people reach out from that same area since you were, you know, pretty specific in, in explaining, you know, the area where this happened. Thank you for doing that. It is a very, very, very interesting. Now, sometimes when individuals have a sighting like this, it will affect, or they'll

start to notice other weird things in their life afterwards. Did you have anything else weird happen in your life as you grew up into adulthood? Oh, I've had a couple weird things, but then I've had seven years of active duty overseas. It's been deployed twice. So, yeah, there's plenty of weird things happen oh yeah yeah have weird things happen but that's probably that that isn't the top five of weird things that happen to press in his life and people have said to me oh you saw a bear well you said that to me in 1976 or 77 and i said yeah that's what i saw but i've learned a bit and i've become quite a bit older and i'm a pressing environmental sinus i am a skeptic. I

scrutinize, I study, I sample. That's what I do, Jeremiah. That's what I've done, all my working life outside of active duty. So I can sit back without using imagination and recall that day, what I saw, what I heard, and what I smelled. And somebody to say that was a bear in me,

I say, I don't think so. I lived long enough to say, nah, I'm not going to fool myself. I've been back to that spot many times. I was grouse hunting with a close friend of mine. We walked up and over that knoll, and I can remember that day very distinctly. I'm not afraid. I never saw it yet.

And I don't know anybody else said. I sure would like to have a discussion. My grandpa, he's long gone now. He was quite elderly then. And ask Grandpa if he'd ever had an experience like that, He may be he'll say so maybe what, but I'll never know. He's gone now. Right.

But I would have loved to have a conversation with Grandpa. You remember that day? And then it never happened to you is when he was in Michigan, it was right around the turn of the century. He was really old. And he had some great stories, but I never heard him tell him like that. Being an individual that has to really notice details because of the different things you've done over the years. From what you were looking at that day and what you remember, did what you saw seem more ape-like or more human

or maybe something completely different? I would say the gate is what I focused on in these recent years, Jeremiah. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. It may just be the world's greatest eraser. Mabeline Instant Eraser Concealer is your secret weapon for erasing signs of a sleepless night. Instantly cover dark circles

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Diagonal Drop. RAN like, like I said like Cheetah on Doc Tari. And I say it that because anybody that grew up

when I did in the 70s, that's what you watched on TV and it was a cool show. You can still find it on YouTube, and I've refreshed my memory by looking for doctoring on YouTube. Sure enough, I find one, and they'll have a clip of cheese that I'm running across a yard. And I said,

I point at it, I said, there it is. That's it right there. That's what I saw, only really big, on all fours. When you were walking back to the others, and I know you heard that, you know, you heard the creature moved through the woods. What other sounds were you hearing that day in the woods? Really nothing else. The wind was calm.

It had been very frosty, so it has to be a very still night to be frosty. I didn't, couldn't hear anything. The nearest county road from where I was walking was a solid mile. through UP Woods. And anybody that grew up there knows UP Woods is some thick woods. It blocks a lot of sound. And I could hear,

I could walk down the road. The leaves in the road were damp. But walking in the woods, you snap a branch, crunchy crunch. That's what I could hear off on my left. And again, it would walk when I would walk. It would stop when I stopped. And this is like I said,

it went on for probably 200 yards as I was walking down this old log. road, which was dirt. Dirt with leaves on it. And when dad started a chainsaw up, I don't know if it's scared it away or what, or I just couldn't hear it, but it was no longer following me.

And it probably knew there were some guys at camp. And again, these are all really big guys, not afraid of anything. And I wasn't afraid. I thought I was a bearer in my head. Figured his doggone thing is following back to camp. See how close he gets. Right.

I tell my grandpa. I don't see something happen. But it didn't. It quit. Was your dad starting up the chainsaw to get you to come back? Was that a normal thing he would do? Yeah. Okay.

Oh, yeah, because he would grow impatient. Yeah. And he started up from the old mouth my chainsaw, which was, you know, get your butt back here, or he's going to be trouble. And I was already on my way. So, yeah, that was him calling the kid. hit back because we had work to do. That's funny. I mean, yeah, it makes sense.

Like back then, you wouldn't, you wouldn't have a way of, you know, there's no electronics really out there. And, you know, you didn't have a cell phone or walkie-talkies or anything. So that works, definitely. Yeah, you had a watch, you had a compass. And if you're late, you better have a good excuse. Well, I had a watch and a compass, but I had no excuse. But I got back when he, when he fired that chainsop.

and I listen to the stories. All four, those four, five, those guys are all standing there, listen to me, tell me in the story, a 15-year-old skinny kid. My dad, six-foot-two, way over 200 piles. His brother, my grandpa, the other guys went all World War II, Korean War in Vietnam. I bet they're afraid of nothing. They listened to me, but you could see the look of skepticism on their face like, yeah, yeah.

I said, I know what I saw, I know what I smelled, and I know what I heard. No one's ever going to change that. And to this day, it has not. I'm 62 now. So it sounds like you spent a lot of time out there in those woods over the years. Did you ever hear any sounds that just did not really belong or that were, you know, a little weird or anything like that? The only other weird thing I heard was I was hunting bear at that same spot. It might have been a year later.

But back then you could get a bear permit over the counter of Michigan. Oh, wow. I heard a bobcat screech. That was the weirdest thing for me. Other than, other than that, no tree knocks, no nothing like that. I've never heard that in my life. And at that time, I wouldn't have known it anyway. But nothing out of place, just that day.

And I've been back there before. I've hunted deer around there and the guys in our camp. Gosh, this is, what, 50 years later? almost no and I was wondering when I go out there I would love to see that again

I'm not afraid of it I would love to experience that again see that again so I don't have to ask St. Peter at the pearly gaze hey dude what did I see right show me again St. Peter definitely

yeah show me again you are currently an environmental scientist as of today yeah yep for 34 years wow

So I'm just going to ask, I'm just going to ask, you can decline, you know, because of your current. Do you, do you have any thoughts regarding, I'm sure you have some really interesting thoughts, you know, being a environmental scientist about possible conservation, you know, possible, does conservation need to be a thing if these are actually discovered or what the implications are? if, you know, Sasquatch is discovered in an area someday? Is that anything you might have any thoughts about? I, thanks for asking that, Jim. I have thought about that a lot. I'm not sure how much effect that would have in Michigan, but I'm in the Pacific Northwest, in the southeast,

where timber products are the backbone of livelihoods in industry, it could have significant impact negatively on the economy. I think that if we discover they are there, and I'm not far from making up my mind that they are after my experience, we have to think about that. And there's steps in preservation that don't have to be so impactful to industry until livelihoods. But we're not talking about a spotted owl. We're not talking about, you know, small mammals and birds.

that we take conservation measure for. And this is a big animal. This thing is big and needs air and these range to eat. So when scientists and industry and legislature come together on deciding, what are we going to do about this now? It'll be interesting to see what they come up with. This industry is going to have a lot to say about it. They're very strong political action committees,

lobbyists that are going to lessen on a lessen the blow of industry once we find these things are exactly what we think they are it's I don't know what will happen it'll be do I think that they need to be protected just like any other of God's creatures we need to need to protect that if someone needs to defend themselves like I would I'm not going down no I'm not going down

and nor anyone else for that matter. But that is a really interesting question how industry and the legislature would come together to come up with a preservation plan, protection plan or something for a big foot. Yeah, it's such an interesting thing because if you look at the big picture over the years, every now and then another county will pop up

with, hey, don't, If you see a big foot, don't shoot it, or you'll get a fine, or, you know, they'll be these, these different, they'll be these things that won't be a fun time if you do take action against it. And it's just, it's interesting how maybe it's more of a kind of a slow burn. I mean, this is just me talking, but maybe slow burn preparing for something that might be coming out in the future. Who knows, you know, it's, there's people that reach out to me like, you know, park rangers and, and forestry workers do reach out to me. They don't really come on the show, but if those individuals did start to come on the show,

there could be some real solid information that starts to get put out there. So I'm a good friend of mine that Frequins Kentucky has friends there. He lives in Michigan. He grew up a mile from me, and it's been in those same woods with me. And he, he was a lifer.

His whole career was after duty in the Army. His friends in Kentucky near Fort Knox. He travels down there to see them to get away from winter, and they like to go cave exploring or spielunking, whatever you call it. And he came back one year, and I said, hey, how was their trip down? I was great. He said, but we got to a campground, one of the caves in a park ranger there was telling us about Bigfoot.

He said, what are you talking about? He said, yeah, you guys might not want to park here. Somebody saw one, and the ranger was telling us. about things and Tom said he looked at Rangers square in the eye and he said sir I'm a combat vet I am former army and you've got me worried now to him to say that there's something to be worried about and the Rangers said I'm just telling you what we were told and they did not camp there his decision and their decision was and their crew their jeepers was yeah maybe we'll go to town Wow. And that was Kentucky.

That says a lot. Yeah. And he's a combat vet. 16 years active duty, National Guard, deployed all around the world. He's got two other buddies with the same thing. And they're all looking at each other with, giving this guy kind of a hairy eyeball. But it's coming from a Ranger. So that means something. And he shook us at. He said, I said, well, what did you do?

We got in a car and we left. I said, well, I'm sure. Ranger understands the economic impact telling people those kind of things because you left, but the word gets around. We're all connected now in the internet email. Oh, yeah. And I'm not the only guy he told that story to, but he just looking at me, shaking and said, I've never told him my story.

Tom's never heard me tell my story ever, never, ever. But yet, he had one of his own. Now, he didn't get to see it. It was secondhand from a park ranger. but it was enough for him and his buddies and their families to go someplace else. That's wild. I wonder if that was around the Mammoth Cave area. Yep.

Was it really? That is exactly where it was. That is exactly where it was. Man, you do this for five years and you start to get really good at guessing. Yeah, that's wild. Yeah. That was what Tom said. And I don't talk to Tom much anymore.

He lives far away. But, yeah, it was Mavid Caves, and that was one of their favorite things to do all year long was the Jeep over there and hike and Spelunk and do what you're allowed to do. But after that occasion, I don't think he's ever been back. That sucks for that camp and park service, but. Yeah. Did you say that was just a few years ago, you said, or? Within the last four years. Oh, man.

Yep. within those four or five years. That was his experience. And I said, and he's a very curious fellow and afraid of zero. And I said, you didn't plan out, you don't want to say and find it herself? Nope. When the park ranger told us that, he said, thank you. And we're home back to whatever town that they were in.

You don't understand guys like that. They're not afraid of anything. Desert storm, Afghanistan. They've been through a lot of stuff. But he went home. Extremely interesting. Man. Brett, thank you so much for hanging out with me tonight

and for sharing a really interesting. There's not many accounts where it's just this viewpoint of the creature that I've taken. So this is a very, very interesting one. I'm glad you came on the show tonight to share what you experience. that day. I appreciate the opportunity. I've told this story a couple other times, and every time I tell it, I start to remember a couple things.

The question you had about the ears, I hadn't thought about that much, but I have a vivid memory in my mind what I saw and the feet. And so you joggle a couple things in my mind, Jeremiah, that were details I haven't thought of in a long time. Not that I glossed over, just no one ever asked me, and I didn't have to think about it. I am now. There you go. Well, if anything else, you know, if you ever come across anything else out there, feel free to reach out, Brett.

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