Bigfoot Society - A Scientist Comes to Grip with the Paranormal Side of Bigfoot

Episode Date: September 3, 2024

Jenney from New York recounts her spine-chilling Bigfoot encounters, starting with a terrifying sighting at a Utah rest area. As a biologist and former wilderness guide, Jenney explains the surreal experiences that followed, involving tree pushes, mind-speak, and interactions with her German Shepherd. Her story blends scientific inquiry with the paranormal, featuring strange beings, mysterious vocalizations, and unexplained phenomena on her property. Join us as Jenney delves into her eerie encounters, offering a fascinating insight into the mysterious world of Sasquatch and high strangeness.Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: [e-mail] to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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Patreon, you get a special members-only episode every single week on Wednesdays and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society. And now let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society, we have the privilege of talking to Jenny from New Jenny is a listener that reached out to me quite a while ago about some things that she has been experiencing over the years. And it's a privilege to finally be able to sit down with her and have a conversation. So Jenny, welcome to the show. Thanks, Jeremiah. I'm really happy to be here today.

So I guess, you know, would you like me to just start with the main topic that I wrote into you about? Yeah, absolutely. the rest area in Utah. Okay. So I had had some experiences before this incident, but I, how can I put it? They weren't visuals. They were, you know, the usual weird, unexplainable stuff that can happen in the forest that you can kind of like chuckle about. They're like, oh, was that a big foot? But you can't really like say you saw it. So this is my first time I ever saw one. So a little bit of background is probably necessary here.

So I was a wilderness guide for eight years, a paid wilderness guide in like Utah, Utah, Oregon, Georgia, North Carolina, New York, pretty much all over the country. Before that, I was a guide in a different capacity for backcountry snowboarding. And then I loved nature and being outside, but I am also, I'm a scientist. I love science. I went to school to be a scientist. And so I was at this point deep into a biology degree, and I needed to do my field work for my internship. And my field work was environmental science focused. And I was also doing a deep dive study into cryptogamic soils in Utah and dinosaur bones and land issues and kind of this intersection

with land issues, wilderness, and science. And so this brought me out to this amazing place in Utah called Capitol Reef. And I was just learning all I could. And I was spending a lot of time alone by my, you know, alone, really, sometimes backpacking out and spending the night looking at fossils or driving out in my little car, staying in the middle of nowhere. So a lot of alone time. And so when I had this experience, it was very weird that I hadn't had it, I hadn't seen a Sasquatch in one of these like completely remote places. this was by the side of a road in a rest area.

So a little bit of this backstory is that my dog had passed about a year earlier and I was really missing my big German shepherd. And so when I was doing this field work outside Capitol Reef, I thought, well, I will see if there's any big German shepherds that need rescued out of the shelter there in Richfield. And so I had found a shepherd that I was planning on transport. supporting to Boulder. But because of this incident, I kept this dog and this dog ended up being the main interaction with these Sasquatch beings into the future. So this is like day one with this dog. So I picked this dog out. I've been doing field work all summer. I'm in staying in Torrey, Utah, working in there and then doing my field work. So I'm able to squeeze in some time to drive out to Richfield and go pick up this dog. And so I get out there. This dog is, you know, at death store, she was going to be euthanized that morning. And I say this.

I had just this mindset of like just love for this dog. And I didn't really know her yet. I just was saving a wife. And so we were driving back from the shelter. and we were, I want to say, well, we were driving through the Fish Lake Mountains, and there's a rest area. I believe it's before you descend down into Bicknell. There's this rest area that's a gravel road. There's hunting campers there this time of year.

So this was last week in August. And it's like a little reservoir. These are all over Utah for flood control. And so it's surrounded by sagebrush. and there's aspen trees, which struck me when I pulled in, and as I could swear that I saw people fishing or that I had a sense that people were there fishing. There's like these little pullouts all along the lake. And so I was looking for a place to wash this dog that had been in the shelter. And so I was looking for like a place away from everybody.

And so I went to the end of the little dirt road. This, again, is right along the, I'd say highway, but it's like a two-lane main road through the Fish Lake Mountains. And we get out of the car and I, you know, we walk out to the lake and it's not cobble. So it's the end of the summer. So the water's really low. It's hard to walk. And this is significantly. But the point is I have a very clear view of the beach and the aspen trees and the trees and the

campers and I'm like making a mental note like oh these are probably people out scoping for elk or their bow hunters I can't remember both the season had started but I didn't I didn't feel alone you know that's the point here so I'm splashing water on this dog that again I barely know her and she she is terrified of the water so it's clear that something had happened to her And so in the middle of her freaking out with the water, me trying to wash her, she stiffens and starts growling like, you know, scary growl. And not at me, but she's staring at the aspen trees that are along the beach. So she is, you know, staring and growling. And my first thought is, oh, there's like a man, a person.

or a hunter or something like that. So now my attention turns, and I see that there is a very weird man peeking out from behind the aspen trees. And it's several little aspen clusters from where my cobbled beach starts. So it's, you know, can't see real clearly at this point. But my dog is fixated. And now her bark is like an alarm bark or growl, like danger. And I didn't know this dog really well, but I know German Shepherds and I knew that grouse.

So we start getting out of the water. And that, quote, quote, man now moves very fast from one aspen tree to the next aspen tree closer to me. And he's like hunched. He's all gray. His hair is over his face. He's skin and bone. Like he's got these really broad shoulders, but it's very bony. And his arms are weird.

His hands are like down by his knees. And he's kind of like, kind of shuffly, swoopy with his arms, like feet are shuffly. arms are a little bit swoopy, but he's not running like a regular person would, like with elbows up. His hands are down. And I heard some, I think somebody on this podcast say just like a few episodes ago, there was almost cartoonish. Yeah, it was like it reminded me of like one of that Bugs Bunny monster with the broad shoulders and dragging arms. But my brain was like, that is a crazy man. That is a crazy man coming at me, trying to sneak up at me.

So at this point, he's moved another tree forward. And now I can see that he's very tall. And he's behind an aspen tree, which is comically too small to hide him. So now I see these bony, um, shoulder. shoulders, big broad shoulders poking out on either side of the tree. And it's all in gray. And I'm like, why is that, why is that man gray, head to toe? That's not hunting camo. That's not a gilly suit. That's, he's just all gray. That's so weird. And, um, and also like, I can see you. Like, you are doing a terrible job of hiding. They're like, this is a crazy person. So, um, and also,

he's very big. So like a very big, creepy, crazy person who's hiding his face behind the tree. And so, so now I'm running for the car. The dog is, you know, growling like danger, danger. And, but we're trying to run over those terrible cobbles. And it's all open between me and my car. Now, this crazy man is now moved another tree closer. Again, that crazy swoopy movement. And now he's peeking out from behind the aspen tree looking at me. And what was, and it took, honestly, it took years to, like, process this. The hair was pulled over the face like cousin it.

And I was like, that is like cousin it. That is so weird. So now I'm like, what is this weird tall man with no clothes but weird hair and hair? He's got long hair and it's pulled over his face and he's peeking at me from behind a tree and he's still coming forward. And so I'm thinking about to get snatched by a crazy person. So I know by this time I'm in the car, dogs in the car. and while I got into the car, it moved to the closest tree it could to me. So now it's very close.

Like not grab me out of my car close, but had I not run to my car, he would be between me and my car. Or he could get between me and my car. So now I tear out of there. And as I'm pulling out, he leans out behind the car. tree. Like I can see him looking at me from behind the tree. And again, I'm thinking like, that is some kind of crazy man, like, trying to snatch me. And also in the back of my head, I'm like, why isn't anybody helping me? Like, with the hunters and the fishermen, like, why is nobody helping me? That was probably one of the freakiest things was like, how did this thing

sneak up on me. Like, how did that even happen? Where did it come from? You know, the sagebrush is not very tall. Like, how'd that even happen? And so I get down to my work in Tori. And, like, you know, besides like, oh, I just got myself a stinky dog that just saved my life. there's a crazy man at the rest area by Bicknell.

And I was talking to people like, do you know about this? Like, do you know about this weird skinny tall man with the hair pull over his face? And he's all in gray. And he walks really weird. And everybody looked at me like, what are you talking about? So that was, that was like I thought I was getting snatched. Now, I'm going to fast forward like years and years ahead after having more experiences and seeing more of these beings. Of course, I heard somebody, I think it was on this podcast, talk about seeing one that looked like cousin it.

And when that person said that, I just, like, it all came into clarity. Like, oh, my God, that Sasquatch pulled the hair over. his face to like obscure his face. So it wouldn't be as freaky, right? Because if I had seen like a Sasquatch peek out from behind a tree with the full face and the brows and everything, I would never have waited that long to get in the car. But instead my brain was like trying to figure this obscured situation out. What do you mean when you say getting snatched? What did What's your definition of that? So I, at the time, I thought it was like a crazy person that was trying to, like, kill me, like, going to try to grab me and, like, stuff me into one of those campers or make me disappear because there is a, I mean, I hate to say it, but there's, like, you know, kidnapping corridor, the corridor.

across Utah and Kansas, Colorado. And so, and I have had, like, I have had, like, life experience of somebody trying to grab me before. So it was, like, one part, like PTSD. And then the other part, like, there's a real threat here, feeling like there was a very real threat there that I was going to get grabbed. I wasn't thinking, like, grabbed and eaten or I was just thinking more immediate, like, whatever that is could grab me and stuff me in one of those campers. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Daniel Fischel.

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No, I could see that there was bone structure, like, you know, that there was eyes. The face was long and skinny. And when he moved, like, I wouldn't say lean, but like scooched his face from around the side of the tree, could see hair like movement, right? So it was like not fabric. It was like a movement there. So it was like, why is that man have his hair pulled? over his face. It was weird. Or like a hood, you know, I was like at first I saw it from a distance

and I thought it was like, why does that man have the hood over his head? It's summertime. It's hot. It didn't. That didn't make sense. And as he got closer, I could get more of a feel that this was just really, this was weird. Something was really weird. Were you able to see like a shape to the head at all? Or was the hair just too? much. It was the hair obscured the like the jaw line, the neck, the the like chin to shoulder aspect. I'm trying to think it was just long and skinny. I'm trying to think of something like it. I'm trying to think of something like it. It was, you know, I've seen people that are, were thin like this. And And it's just like when somebody is very, very thin and their cranium is kind of looks very narrowed. But the fate, it was long.

Like it was, the head was longer than a person's, like head from top of the head, top of the skull to the jaw. If that makes sense. Did you ever do any research or anything to see if similar experiences had happened in that same area or anything? Oh, that's such a good question. I never thought to, weirdly. I never thought to. I was so out of touch with what it was. I had to leave in a couple days to go do my field work.

And also, I had to then go. After this finished up, I had to then go spend the next few days by myself in the wilderness with this dog. So I was very, very, like, disconnected from the danger. Like, I had partitioned the danger away from me in my mind because I had to go finish my fieldwork. And then I went on to years of living in the wilderness by myself. So it was like the reality of that possibility of what that could have been. It just couldn't sink in. Does that make sense?

Absolutely. Yeah. Well, feel free to, it sounds like this, this maybe connects to other things as well. Yeah. So this happened. And then I went on to have a magic, you know, just absolute magic with this dog. She was, you know, my good luck. I made my dinosaur discovery a few years.

Or, you know, I found, basically, I finished my field work with this dog, and we formed quite a connection. It had more experiences with these beings. My take on the situation changed. So while at the time I thought I was being snatched, in hindsight, I think that it looked weird and it moved weird because it was old. And I thought, oh, well, that makes sense because. an old Sasquatch is going to have, you know, movement.

It's going to move like a little rickety, a little stooped. And that made a little more sense. And then I thought maybe it was there to see this moment with me and this dog. Because I'll get to the next story here because this dog really had a thing with Sasquatch. And she's passed since. And I miss her, but a lot of weird stuff happened around this dog. So I think now in hindsight, this being wasn't there to snatch me, but was there to maybe witness. And also, I had a lot of fear at that time about being, you know, having been by myself and had to, like, feel defensive and protective.

and this dog came from where that Sasquatch lived. So it's also possible that that Sasquatch had been aware of my dog because my dog was turned loose with the sheep in that area and then brought to the shelter. So I thought, oh, I hadn't even kind of thought about this until years later. It was like, oh, my gosh, maybe that, maybe. Maybe that Sasquatch was, you know, more familiar with my dog. I don't know. It sounds kind of weird, but it was also a weird coincidence.

So anyways, I finished school. I eventually move out to the oil fields of Colorado. And I work on pipelines. And I hike pipelines. I do vegetation surveys and essentially environmental science. kind of things for the oil companies and the gas companies out there. And I did have some bizarre experiences, but mostly of like, you know, I'm taking a truck down a road, and then I just feel like I'm going to die if I don't just stop and turn around.

I did have this one experience where I went out to help close out a plug and abandoned site that had been restored. and I went out there to take like the final photos. So this was outside of Rangley. It was, you know, if you're from Rangley, you're very familiar with the big ridge that goes all the way from like kind of the meeker area follows the White River and then heads over to Douglas Pass. And so I was working in like up on that ridge that kind of. next up with Douglas Pass and but like way way back in um and I was walking out and I felt like something was hunting me and the natural thought was Mount Lion and I had seen Mount Lion tracks up there had seen Wolf track um so I just you know took off my backpack puffed up my backpack

put my backpack back on got out my rock hammer was like if this thing you know this thing comes at, I was ready and I'd hike out and looking over my shoulder like so many times stopped and like did the spin around and nothing was there and like

maybe three weeks later the guy that's in charge of you know that I report to the oil company he said he's like I noticed you submitted a report for this site he's like I thought I told you not to go up to that site and I was like well no it was on it was on the list to do

And he's like, huh? He goes, well, did you have to see anything up there? The pumpers say they see some weird stuff up there. And it's like, well, you know, funny you mentioned it. And I told him the story I just told you. And then he and my field boss like kind of go white. And they have this like moment of looking at each other. And then the oil company guy goes,

we're, I'm not going to have you go up there anymore. Nobody's going up there anymore. I was like, well, I'm sure it's just the mountain line. He's like, nope, not going up there. Nobody's going up there anymore. And I did find out from another story, you know, later down the road that there had been sightings down at my field boss's ranch, which was not far from that spot. But that whole field area burned to the ground some time ago.

But anyways, that was kind of the only notable thing. thing that had happened while I was out in Colorado that like really stands out as being weird. So I finally moved to New York and built a life here and moved here to get into genetics. Genetics was one of my like first passions in biology and genetics microbiology. And so got a wonderful job here. Still have this dog. And then as as you know, the pandemic hits. And I was at like ground zero for figuring out how to deal with the pandemic.

I had to conduct myself accordingly. So it was, you know, very isolating. But at the same time, my mom was having some health issues that were very serious. And I was very stressed out with my work situation. Then you had like the financial implications. everybody's hours getting reduced. And then you have the world going quiet. And I thought, well, this is a good time to start meditating.

And I need to back up a little bit. Before this, about a few, just maybe two, month or two before the pandemic, well, what I say before the pandemic hit, the pandemic, quote, hit for me at a different time than it did for the rest of the United States because my work dealt with people in China. We were partnered in China. So when China was going through the pandemic, it was very much a part of our lives at my work here in New York. And so for me, we're talking like late fall, early winter.

So I started going to this meditation group to help manage stress. This was right, you know, before the pandemic, quote, really hit. Jenny? And I, yeah. Can we clarify someone in the future isn't going to get this, which is kind of cool to think someone in the future won't get this. But so for most of the world, it was March 2020 is how I view it. But you're saying that for your world, it was fall of 2019, correct? Yeah, it was.

And I could be like a little fuzzy on that. But I remember, at the time I was guiding at house caverns. And that was, I want to say it was like January that I was like, hey, how come we're not wearing masks? And everyone's looking at me like I'm crazy. So, yeah. And we already had our food storage and our surgical masks stored up in January. Wow. Yeah.

I already knew because I know. So I knew what was coming and we were preparing for it at work because we, you know, we were partnered in China and our mice were going all over the world. And just like sidebar, I worked with the mice that were saved basically Trump's, but that got him got him those monoclonal antibodies right away. So, oh, my goodness, really. Yeah. Wow.

Yeah. There's something for everyone in this one. I know. Oh, wow. It's, it's, I mean, when I say, like, I'm really into genetics, like, I love it. And so I, of course, like, from the mental point of view, I was loving that aspect of the pandemic. Like, I got to, you know, scratch every itch in the, like, bioengineering world of things. but at the same time it was extremely stressful.

So there's the pandemic, right? And there's the lead up to it. But then work started being stressful right prior to this. And so this is what it led me to seek out a group of people that were like-minded and into just meditation and relaxation. And I've always had an interest in hypnosis, The lady that ran the group was a hypnotist. And so I kind of fell into this community of people that were just really into like mental wellness.

And anyway, I thought it was a meditation group. It was basically a group for psychics, like for people to like hone their abilities, learn about it, or even just experience and be a guinea pig. So I walked into this group like, oh, I'll be your giddy pig. I'm here for the meditation. Stay for the like occasional like, hey, you're dead, you know,

so-and-so is here visiting you. So you can kind of get that I was in this like mental mindset of meditating and hearing a lot of weird stuff, right? Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Daniel Fischel. And Rider Strong from PodMeets World. Cat parents unite. We have to look out for each other.

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So I talk to my doctor about self-injecting with the Vivgard-Hitrilo pre-filled syringe, which contains F-Gartigamutalpha and high loronidase QVC. It's injected under your skin subcutaneously. It means I can inject in my space on my time. It's my treatment, my way. Visit Vivgardmyway.com. That's V-Y-V-G-A-R-T-My-Way.com. And talk to your doctor about Vivgard-Hitrullo.

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And this was just like a meeting a week here, a week there. And then, of course, as the pandemic started rolling up, you started hearing the people who are quote-unquote psychic start talking about these big changes coming. So anyways, I think it's important to set the stage because as a scientist, I'm trying to look at this from a, from a like look at all the facts, right? And part of the dynamic of this, of these experiences I have was this mental shift at this time. And so anyways, where I'm going with this is that it was, I want to say it was like November.

It was like October or November. The tree, the leaves were down. And I lived, I don't mind sharing exactly where this is because it's kind of mind blowing. If you want to Google it, I was, at the time I was living on Route 20 in East Greenbush, New York, which is the city. It's not, you know, it's suburb, but, you know, I can see the Albany skyline, you know, right down the street. And I lived in an old house from the 1800s. You know, a lot of the houses in that area were older houses along the old rail line. And there is this apartment complex called Greenbush Station.

And it's known for being a little bit trashy. Like the dumpsters are always overflowing. But other than that, though, it's a very respectable place to live in an otherwise, like, semi-un Affordable area. The point is, is this is, there's true. trees, there's bike trails, there's woods, there's, but it's also, there's traffic and there's stores and there's commerce. So I worked, I had to be a reporter work very early. So I was out walking this dog that I was telling you before, Kiva, I was out walking her at 11 o'clock at night. And we were, you know, two houses down from my house. And we were in front of Greenbush

station. They have this big lawn. And my dog starts fixating on something that's walking down like the lawn, a green bush station. There's like this little strip of trees walked under the lamp light, the street light. And so she's fixed at it, but she has got the weirdest look on her face. I've never seen this look on the dog's face before. She was trying to figure out what she was looking at. She was like chuffing. She was going like, pah, ho, ho, like that. And staring, but her hackles weren't up. She wasn't alerting to something dangerous. It was like, there's something there. I don't know what it is. And so because she was fixating on it, I began to fixate on it. And there was something there. There was an outline. It was big. It was huge. It was a distortion.

of the air, best way to put it, and it crossed the street. And when it crossed the street, this, uh, what is it two, four, four lanes at this point. And it, uh, across the street to a row of the rows of houses, right? So there's these like old, was it craftsmen houses that line the street. And there's big trees like oak trees and, um, you know, these very old trees. And so, I, remember thinking it's going to like whatever that is is going to hide behind the tree. And so the thing was is as soon as it got across the street, there was another, like the light

from the street lamp was now not coming down on it, but coming at it from its side. and immediately a shadow showed up against the White House that it was standing in front of. Now, it was walking like it, like thinking, the weirdest thing, it was walking with a posture that suggested that it believed I could not see it. Like, like just do, do do do do walking across the street. and then and I saw that so then I saw that shadow against the house and it's walking down like walking um I wouldn't say on the sidewalk but like toward that tree that's that's on the sidewalk area or yeah in front of the house and then there was this moment when its shadow was cast against the house very clearly I must have drawn in a breath or something.

Something about my body language changed. Its head went up to the eaves of the house. It realized that I could see it. And this is the goofiest thing. It made this like, oh, shoot, posture. Like, it's stiffened. And it's like this, oh, shoot. Like, the best description I have is, like, when I was,

like when I was about eight years old, my grandfather was changing in my parents' room, and I came up the stairs real fast, and he like scooted behind the door real fast. You know, he had that same like, oh, shoot, I don't want her to see me kind of look. This Sasquatch had the same kind of like, oh, shoot. And like his shoulders kind of came up and stiffened and he like scuttled behind this tree. but he was so big and and the shadow was cast against the house was so obvious that he then like scuffled scurried um across the front of the house and I could see the shadow and I could see that there was like an outline um like there was light that could not pass through something and I could see the detail was

spectacular. And he then turned left and went in between two houses where there were some bushes. And I in the moment, I mean, also my dog's following this, right? My dog's head is following mine. And I thought in that split second, I thought I just saw, was that a demon? Like, did I just see a demon. That was clearly a shadow being, but that was not what I imagined a shadow being to be, but it was such a distinct

shadow and there was definitely something solid there. And I ran home. I like, you know, I probably jogged and I got home and I immediately said prayers that whatever that was does not cannot come

come to my home. My house is just the next house over, like two houses over. So I also thought like, okay, I've been going to this and talking with these people that see things. And I thought, uh, am I going crazy? No, the dog saw it. Was that a spirit? No, it was solid. It was solid. Like, it was solid like when a car drives by, the light cannot pass through the car. And you can still get a jest of what kind of car it is. Like it was so clear.

And I'll give you details in a minute. And anyway, so that happened. And I, you know, I prayed. And I also just didn't know, didn't know what it was. So anyway, I hadn't been, oh, yeah. And I didn't listen to Bigfoot podcasts or anything. anything like that. So this was this like really bizarre. So you weren't or you were? I was not. Like I was not. Wow. Right. Yeah. So about a, I will say about a week before, I did forget about a week before I had been in my meditation group. And I had, we had to do this like box image, this box visualization. And when the box opened,

the head of the face of a Sasquatch was right in front of mine. And I just thought, oh, my gosh, that's, you know, I thought, oh, I must be, like, going for a hike soon. Like, that makes sense. So, like, and I told the other group members, like, oh, well, I just saw a Sasquatch face. And I thought that that was just not weird. I didn't think that was weird. I thought it was kind of, like, kooky and funny, like, oh, funny, Harry, Harring the

Henderson's. I love Oregon. Maybe I'm taking a trip to Oregon. soon. I don't know. I hadn't thought too close, too deeply about it. And so when this happened, I wasn't thinking Sasquatch. My first thought was like something from the spirit realm. And then I got home and I and I really thought about it. And I was like, wait a minute. That was solid. I had never heard the podcast that talk about the predator. Okay. So we're going to take us a little bit of a trip down the woo here.

Eventually, because I did seek out answers from all different kinds of places. So anyways, my first thought was something from the spirit realm, say a prayer, maybe I need to lay off the meditation. Maybe this has just gotten, you know, to hear. Right. Also, I was at this point doing Wimhoff breathing, Wimhoff. breath work and I was trying to manage my own stress and so I thought oh my gosh like meditate because I know meditations can cause like certain neurotransmitters to be released in the brain so I thought

you know I went down this road right like is it me is it the meditation is it the neurotransmitters all right so that that so that thing happened it was about um two nights of later. I'm in my apartment and my apartment is on the second floor, but behind my apartment, the ground is like a hillside, right? So it comes up closer to one of my back windows. And I had my windows open and I'm sitting on the bed. I don't think I was meditating, but I was like relaxing before bed. And my dog was in the room with me and she starts growling. And, I don't think I was, at the window opposite me and then her nose and her growling

follows the wall as if there was it was the craziest thing it's like she could see or smell something through the wall and she followed the wall and then made the corner came toward that now she's following the wall

and she's walking toward me toward that open window with her nose to the wall growling. And I hear what sounds like a very large man walking along the house and stopping right under my bedroom window. And I hear the leaves crunch. There's these like little sticks. There's a little bit of like glass and garbage there. So my first thought was bear, right? Like there must be a bear. I look out, I have a flashlight. I shine it out my window, but I'm also a little bit scared to like stick my head out

the window and look around at all angles. So I just figure, well, I don't see a bear. I don't hear a bear. I don't smell a bear. I grew up around yard bears in Connecticut. And there was no more stompy sound. So I settled back on my bed. And then I hear the shift of weight, like from one foot to another under the window.

And now I'm like, what the heck? Like that is big. It's bipedal. It's under my bedroom window. And I can't, I don't see anything. But again, I'm too scared to like, you know, I don't know, be within grabbing distance. So I think I closed the window at that point. It was creeped out, but I was like, all right, well, you know, lightning strikes once.

I hadn't quite connected it to the weird thing I'd saw seen the other day, or the other day, a couple days before this. So then another few days go by and the same thing happens again right to my bedroom window. this time I had had some time to mentally prepare and I had my big bag light and I shined the light all around the outside and I didn't see anything. I didn't see anything. And yet when I turned the light off, you know, went back and, you know, put my head back in the room. They had these screens that slid up and down like really old school. I heard the footsteps walk away. It's like, What the heck? Okay. So that was weird. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeets World.

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I did not understand it was 10, like how giant big, like maybe 10 feet tall. It was until about six months later, I saw somebody walking on that same sidewalk at that same time of night. It was just like some guy walking home. And he was so small. His shadow was so small compared to what I saw. Like not even, not even close. And I was like, oh, my God, what I saw. was enormous.

The hands went below the knees. It was so muscular. I could make out the definition in like that lump of calf muscle in the shadow. Its knees were really narrow. Like the joints were so much smaller than the bulk of the muscle. His thighs were so thick. and strong, the small waist, the shoulders were big and broad, but the arms are what freaked me out. It was the arms and the hands that jumped in my head and was like, demon, because the fingers were so long.

And they were not draggy, but like, not limp, but like hanging toward the ground. And when he ran, his elbows, or not ran, but like scuttled. His elbows were bent, but his wrists were, like, his elbows were slightly bent, but his wrists were distinctively, like, hanging. And, you know how they say, like, hands like catchers' mitts, the hands were so big. He was leaning forward. His head was hard to tell the shape. with the shadow but rounded um and like like you hear no neck like it did there was not like any

discernible neck in the shadow and but it you could see in the body language it like stiffened and then like hustled and did like he did like a little like oh like a little like a little like little uh what do you call it you know when you kind of stiffen up jump and uh startle that's the word i'm looking for, like did a little jumpy startle. It was so big. And, okay, so obviously now there's been a few things in this time frame. Now the world is

deeper into the situation. Right. And I am, there's no more meditation group. The meditation group was shut down like, oh gosh, I mean, I think it was me that told them like, hey, guys, this is, this is serious. Like, you know, because the group I was in, you have your like antiponos. Like, no guys, like seriously. Like, this is really a thing.

This thing in China, it's coming here. And so now the world's gone quiet. And I've decided that I want to buy a home or property. and I find this amazing property that I'm in love with just down the road. I'm going to describe it to people because they want to Google it. It's on Maple Avenue. It's in Skodak. And there's a big hunting preserve.

And there's this old power line route that was going from Maple Avenue to Ann Lane. And now it's a big hunting area. And I wanted to buy that parcel, that four acre parcel. And so I went out there and I was taking pictures. And so my dog is in the car, parked out on Maple Lab, and I'm with my phone in hand, taking photos of the vegetation in the springs on this parcel of land. And again, we're talking mindset. My mind was so full of love for this property and the possibilities and the plants there

and the old tree forts that the kids, the prior owners kids had there. I was just in this state of just blitzed out. You know, I was in my helmet looking at the plants. And I look up and leaning out from behind a tree was the best description would be Harry and the Henderson's, Harry from Harry and the Henderson's. red like an orangutan but maybe a little darker and he leaned out from behind a tree and like made sure I saw him and then kind of like leaned back behind the tree and so what went through my head in that moment was you are magnificent it was such awe and joy. and I laughed.

I laughed of just absolute joy. I don't know if it was relief that like that thing that I had seen was it a demon, that the footsteps outside my window were a stalker. It was just like the relief and the joy and the like, they're real. There's one right there in front of me. And it was about, I'm going to say about 40 feet away. And I was holding a phone on camera in my hand, and it never crossed my mind to take a photo. Like, didn't even cross my mind.

I did go back into the photos that I'd taken of the property, like hoping there was like a little peak behind a tree or something and I didn't see anything. So that was that experience opened opened the floodgates. So so to this day when I like I've gone to zoos obviously since and I see an orangutan I have just set this visceral reaction like they are they it was so much like an orangutan and the color and the hair texture, the length of the arms, that kind of flat expression, where you can't really tell what they're thinking, the kind of fleshy, fleshy eyebrow. But this was like the conical head. Aging is real, and so are the benefits of.

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These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease. It was, well, and I will tell you, I cannot see. say it was the one that was seen under the street light. But that just seems like a logical conclusion. And I'm going to jump ahead now. And there's many more stories, but to kind of stick with this individual. Obviously, when I saw it in the flesh like that, it was, you know, paradigm changing. Like I'm I'm a scientist, I'm a biologist, a field biologist, you know, geneticist. Now I'm like, where do those genes come from? Which family lineage? What is it? Why is it here?

It's here. Why is it discovered? So then I started going down the rabbit hole of, with the podcast and such. So anyway, so jumping forward, you obviously, or I would obviously think like, I can't, That was just unbelievable. Like, did that really happen? How could that happen? Now, I had other experiences in the years to come, but over that time, every now and then I would get a little blip of mind speak, which I believe is from this being. And it did not feel directed at me. It felt directed at my dog.

And so here's a good example of this, of an interaction with my dog. another time this was after I saw one, saw this being, it was maybe another week or so later. I, sorry, I realize I'm jumping around. It's like all the memories just come like, zhuzing forward. I'm walking my dog along Route 20, right from the Greenbush station. It's about five in the morning. Now, at this point, I want to say it's whatever it is, like a beautiful morning. And I was walking with my eyes closed because I could do that.

with this German Shepherd I had and I was just kind of meandering on the sidewalk enjoying the breeze and the amazing day. And I opened my eyes for a moment because I know I'm approaching Greenbush Station and a little place across. And I look down and I see a crushed Mountain Dew Can. It's crushed. It's sitting on the sidewalk. and it's sitting on the sidewalk at the edge of the driveway into Greenwich Station. And I thought, oh, I need to pick that up on my way back. And my dog, all of this, and then I close my eyes again. And my dog kind of pulls on the leash a little bit.

I can feel or pull on the leash. And that can sounds like it gets kicked, punted, kicked, like by a kid kicking it. and it gets kicked, scoots along the pavement, uphill, uphill toward Greenbush Station, right past me and my dog. And I just like, what the heck just happened? And so I opened my eyes, and I'm not thinking like something paranormal happened. I'm thinking somebody just snuck up a person just saw me with my eyes closed at five in the morning on a city street. knock up behind me. And my dog pulling might have been her, like,

lunging at them. But when I open my eyes, now the can is up the little hill drive. And my dog has got her tongue out happy, like, oh, let's play. It's something that I cannot see that's, like, between the dog and the mountain dew can. and gosh, it was probably like another like two weeks later when I really started just being like, well, let's just see how far this paranormal situation is going to go.

I got an extended leash and I would go out to Greenbush Station on that green lawn at like 10 or 11 o'clock at night when I was letting her out and she would play with something that I couldn't see. Like play like I don't know if you've ever seen a person hold a stick and like the dog like. like kind of jumps up to grab the stick and lands and jumps up and grabs the stick to land and bows like she would play bow at something in front of her at the end of the leash and i would just feel like oh okay like this is this is happening right now but it's not menacing and uh you know i don't know i just went with it so um so then it was like another period of time i'm so like clearly something's interacting with my dog. So there's another period of time I'm driving on the main highway. I think it's 90, and I'm heading up to Miller Road. And I feel this, this was like one of the early times of Mindspeak is I felt this crushing sadness, crushing. It was like when somebody dies when you feel like the absence of something. And I just started crying.

I was like, oh, I came out of blue. And then I heard in my head, I'm going to miss you. And my dog died. I saw this being one more time and my dog died about a week after that. And so it was kind of, I didn't feel like that was meant for me. I felt like I had kind of like intercepted an interoper. interaction if that makes any sense. Anyway, so I'll share the last time I saw this being, it was an unusual situation,

but first I need to get to the woo part because I think that this will be a clue for us as a community to help get some answers. When I say I was at the end of my rope, I mean, obviously between COVID and work stress and meditation and shut down and not being able to see my parents because of their health issues and my sequestration for work, I was like, I need to check on my own mental health. And just to make sure I'm not imagining this situation. And one of the people in that meditation group that I met was this man named David Lewis. and he's a he's I say was because he passed oh gosh I think it's been about two years two years now um

but he used to go to this group and he used to do uh he he was an animal communicator and that sounds crazy right but um when he met me he described a different german shepherd i had had like to a tea And then I showed him a picture of my Kiva, and he described her personality and her works and her weirdness and the abusive situation she had before me. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeets World. Cat parents unite. We have to look out for each other.

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by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Describe that to a tea. So when she got sick, she was, wait, hold on, back up. Was she sick at this? No, she wasn't sick at this time. When I started having these experiences and really wanted to understand them better because there were some other things

that happened as well outside of my neighborhood, I called David Lewis and I said, I'm not looking for any kind of like reading for me. I want you to tell me what my dog saw. that night as I was walking at night. And here's what he described. He said, he goes, oh, my God, that's a Sasquatch. I was like, you know, can you describe it? He described what I told you about the body shape and the size. And he said, and I asked him, I said, have you ever seen any of this through an animal before?

And he goes, no, this is a first for me. This is, this is something new. And I was like, well, I don't understand, like, you know, I need more detail. So what he said is that it looked see-through but not see-through, almost misty, that it was solid, but yet it, my dog could almost like see-through it. So there was something about it that was picking up from the environment around it, that it was not aware. It truly was like walking across the street as if neither me nor the dog could really see it. And then when the dog growled, it kind of got its attention or like huffed and looked at it.

It kind of got his attention. it still was walking across the street as if I couldn't see it and then then it could tell that I could see it and then it ran behind the house. But it was this like solid but not solid nature is really kind of what was blowing my mind there. So again, I apologize for jumping around. I'm going to so so that gave me some clues I was like because I was like well am I dealing with a earthbound being a spirit a spirit of a caveman a Sasquatch like what are we dealing with here and David's take was that it was something that was earthbound and could be a spirit at this point or transitioning like

something that maybe lives way longer than we can wrap our heads around. And we talked a little bit about it, but ultimately he's like, I don't know. Like, I don't know. I can just tell you what what I see through the dog's eyes. And then also he confirmed that, yes, it was playing with my dog. And then it was friends with my dog. And um, fast, so here's where I fast forward.

So we're going to, that was like 2019, 2020, 2020. I bought a piece of property, um, on the west side of the Hudson River. It's the property I'm sitting on right now. And immediately like, day one, I got hit by with a walnut skimming across my head. And I'll, I'll tell you about that in a minute if there's time. But I'm on a property where I have, I just had another interaction with them a couple days ago. I hear them. I've heard of female. We, they're my fort. They're my neighbors. That's kind of how I get through. That's how I walk out my door in the middle of the night. Is I just like, they're my neighbors. They live in Ireland. I live. I live. on my land, but the point is, is immediately the interaction started happening with my dog.

And again, it was like the line with the dog. So when I started clearing the land here and things were happening with the tree pushes and the tree pushes were getting really scary and I didn't know what that intent was and my dog was trying to protect me from something in the bushes. I called David Lewis again. And this was, I think this was the last time I spoke with him. And then he died. I can't remember how many months later, but not, you know, he died shortly thereafter.

But he said that he could see that, yes, they were Sasquatches. again he was amazed he's like I you know this isn't then not something I usually see because I asked him as like well now that you know that this is a thing have you seen them with other animals and he said just with just with my pets and like my cat and um or my cat at my parents house stuff like that so anyways so here's what he said he uh the dog sees um my dog he my dog he Eva said that they move like cats, that they're very, what's the word he said, very shy. He said they're very shy. They move very fast.

They move like cats. They don't like it when I build a fire. Because at that time, I was building a fire and burning brush. They don't like it. That makes them very nervous. And they come around and they get very close. And they're just making sure I don't start a, I don't start, I don't think he said four. forest fire, but whatever that

that was the gist. Don't start a fire, but they're very curious that they like that I'm here. And they like Kiva, but Kiva gets nervous because they get very close to me. They get very close to me and I can't, you know, I'm not, I'm not aware of them being that close to me. And then I never got. to talk with David after when even more activity happened because that was very early on to

the property. But my point of sharing this is that I think animal communicators are a tool that we can use. And I know that sounds really out there. But I do think that there is a scientific explanation for much of the paranormal reports that we have about what Sasquatch does. And so for this, I'll submit this anecdote is I

carry some autistic traits and most of you know, I manage them pretty well. I'm blessed to be very good at science and whatnot.

But I do need to like manage my nervous system and I was that kid that I would sleep outside, even as a teenager because I'd get overwhelmed with stimulus. So living out in the wilderness was my jam and loved it. And so that's one of the reasons why meditation works so good. I got damage in my eyes and the symbols. And I started doing these meditations to focus on healing my eyes because I would get these

terrible, terrible headaches. And during that time period, I was doing those meditations, I would sometimes wake up. It didn't happen all the time. I'd wake up in the morning and sit up in bed with my eyes still closed. And I would see the bird song as squiggle lines. I would see sound. And it happens occasionally. It just happened to me a couple days ago. It looks like the daredevil, like that show Daredevil where you see, um, see like an image come out of the darkness and that it fades away. And that is,

I experience this sometimes. Um, there's also like a group of people, like if I suddenly went blind, I could go to a camp where there's actually people on this planet that use, uh, like a sonar, uh,

like a, like smack sticks together, make clicks with their tongue, their brain can interpret sound as image. And this is something humans can do. And I think, I just, this is a thought, I think that we should be, as a community, enlisting people with these abilities to help us better interpret sound data. and I think that this is what some of mind speak is. I think that we have some innate abilities as human beings that we just aren't in touch with,

but these beings, because they live in this natural environment, are. And every now and then, my brain kind of intersects, right? Intersex with this concept. I forget what kind of sent me down this road. But I have had some experiences over the coming years, which accompany some of these sightings. I feel like I'm getting a little off track here. No. The point is.

I'm sorry. I just had a thought and I don't want to lose it. Yeah. Do you think being around these creatures unlocks then a certain skill or part of the brain? Oh, I'm glad you asked this question. When I have experiences with them that are like where I'll get like an image or a sound, I am usually in a very relaxed state. So honestly, I think it's about unplugging and relaxing and being in a state that is just more conducive.

to allowing the messages to come. So did that answer your question? Are you, so you're talking about a state like you're just about ready to go to sleep, or maybe you're driving down the road and it's a very, like, boring stretch of road? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, something like that. Or like I'm walking just cake into the woods. Yeah, I would say it's like my attention is on something more simple than worrying about, my bills and the work stress or solving a work problem. It's just more the brain isn't just that

more in a moment, like you're just in the in the moment and not worried about what's happening, you know, tomorrow at work and what am I going to wear when I'm going to pack for lunch? How am I going to solve that work problem? And yeah, are there some about the brain state, although I have had experiences where I was kind of like going about my business. So again, this is like really jumping ahead. But it's usually not in a state of like anger, frustration, stress. These happier episodes I would say are in a more meditative, more meditative state. And so I just, I think this is just hypothesis that.

Being in those states allows our body to utilize biological mechanisms that we don't typically access. And some people, like people with aspects of autism or neurodivergence, or even just, you know, what might be called a gift, is that they're just able to access, access that more readily. their neurons are more connect like have established pathways to better interpret that environmental stimulus and I think that this accounts for a lot of experiences and like like I said I think this is something that the community can enlist and as a scientist I focus on the testability and repeatability of experiences. I think that is why, you know, I think that's why researchers do research. But as far as like the woo aspect and the high strangeness, if the high strangeness is

repeatable, well, we really got to take a look at that as a possible data point. If it's repeatable, so like here's repeatable. repeatable is I come out to my property and this is when I was clearing the land and I'm like every night I pack up my car and I haven't tossed a snickers up into the woods a tree falls at the edge of my property several experiences down the line I started gifting and what I gifted was little mini snickers and so I would come out to my property and And not wanting, because I was getting tree pushes and scary things. So I thought, well, maybe if I gave him treats, they would stop scaring me.

So I would toss Snickers up into this area, which was where I first got zinged with a walnut from. I thought, okay, well, he stands up there or it stands up there. So I know that he can access us. So I toss up a Snickers bar. Well, over time, I just forget to leave a snickers. You know what I mean? Like, I get out to the property, I start my fire, I get working,

and then I start packing up the car to go home and a tree falls. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeets World. Cat parents unite. We have to look out for each other. Yes, we all know the feeling of being ignored by our little babies, a little too well. Yeah, I often wonder to myself, does my cat even love me? Well, there's only

one solution to solve that. Sheba. Feeds your cat, Sheba, and go from feeling ignored to truly adored in 12 days guaranteed or your money back. Sheba has a wide array of products, appetizers, entrees, treats, and even a kitten's menu that will win over even the pickiest eater. My cat bill is all about Sheba grilled. Just snap, peel, and serve for two gourmet servings and zero messy leftovers. He loves it. Licks it to the bowl. Its protein-rich formula is made with real chicken and seafood without artificial flavors, preservatives, cornweed, or soy. So you can be sure your cat is getting the finest ingredients from around the world, but made right here in the USA. Spoil your fur babies and introduce them to the delicious delicacies of Shiba. To learn more,

check out Shiba.com. I like things my way, my coffee, my schedule, and my treatment. So I talk to my doctor about self-injecting with the Vivgard-Hitrilo pre-filled syringe, which contains F-Gartegamutalpha and high-loronidase QV-F-C. It's injected under your skin subcutaneously. It means I can inject in my space on my time. It's my treatment, my way. Visit Vivgardmyway.com. That's Vy-Y-V-G-A-R-T-R-T-Myway. And talk to your doctor about Vivgard Hytrullo, brought to you by Argenics. Aging is real. And so are the benefits of adding vital proteins, collagen peptides to your daily routine. New vital proteins collagen sparkling water. Your

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and where to buy. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose treat or prevent any disease. There's a tree push. And it's always like at the end, of my property boundary. And so then I started saying like, okay, you know, I promise I won't forget. And then sometimes I would forget.

And I would be like packing up the car and now I'm about to get in the car and turn the key and there's a tree push. Like, hey, you forgot your fit. You forgot the thing. How many times has a tree push happen? in that way. So many happens, so many times. So I used to come out like every, every weekday, like Friday night, Saturday night. And so it would be every time. So when I came out here, it happened the first time I came out to the property with the dog. So when the dog got,

my dog was dying and I thought it was the end. And I didn't want her to die without setting foot on the property. But my closing was in a few days. So I brought her out here one Sunday night and I, you know, put on the leash, got out of the car and said, like, at this point, I've had experiences other places, but I hadn't had an experience at this place. And I said, hey, I got, she yelled out to the forest. I was like, hey, I don't know if you're here, but I have this dog. she's very sick. She can see you. I can't, but she can see you.

Please don't hurt her. Like, she's very sick. I just have her here to see the property. Maybe we'll be back. Maybe we won't. But, you know, we're not here to cause any problems. But this is where my home is going to be, you know, but please, please, please don't hurt her. finish those like the sentence is just done out of my lips and about 200 feet away a big tree

goes across the road so that I can't drive down the rest of the road and I thought oh that was weird but I had never experienced the tree push before so it was just one thing it was like oh that was weird, like right at the end of that sentence. But then, like, every time I came out after that, in fact, this one, oh, I'll tell you this, this is great. This is a great story. We had, so I bought the property and there's a lot of dead, there's a lot of dead trees here. The trees that were falling, falling were not on the property where I was building the house and cutting the trees. they were around the edges of the property as if something couldn't step foot on the property, but it was knocking trees over all around the edge.

And so I came out here to cut trees and brought my chainsaw, and there's this big cottonwood tree, and there's this huge cottonwood land. And you know about conwoods, they shed the logs or the branches. And I thought, oh, gosh, that branch has got to be the first thing that, you know, comes down after we get the other trees. The other trees. And so I said that, I was, I said it out loud, like I was talking, you know, just talking to myself. And then I went to my car. I had to go, I think, grab a bucket of water from the Hudson, came back. I literally took one step onto the property and it crashes to the ground. And I thought, I must have this,

weird six cents about trees about to fall. But then this kept happening like over and over. My dad and I were, my dad and I were standing there with our chainsaws and there's this tree that was about six inches wide. It was like three feet away. My dad says, oh, Jenny, do you want that tree down? And I was like, well, let's, let's leave it there. That's future firewood. Like that'll still be up there for a few years as future firewood. Turned my back. It falls right over. It was just like weird stuff like that would happen. So another, when I first got the property, I, you know, pulled up and was like, oh my God, there's so many trees that have to come down. And so I said out loud, I said, okay, guys, like, if you want me to live here, I'm going to need some help with these trees.

You know, if you want me to live here, I need some help with these trees. Ha ha, ha, like kind of chuckly, like, ha ha. The next day I came out with my dad was meeting my dad out there with the chainsaws. Every tree, every tree that was dead and dying where the house footprint was, is, was down. And it wasn't just they were on the ground. they had all fallen in some cases against the natural gravity crisscrossed in the exact perfect formation that my dad and I needed it to cut those trees down with the chains all safely every one of them and so when my dad pulled up on the property he goes oh my god i hadn't told him the the request to the forest people he pulls up he goes oh my gosh they're all perfect They've all fallen perfect. All of them.

I said, Dad, those all fell this week. Okay. So that's wild. When they fell, did they make shapes on the ground? Did, oh, I don't know. You know, this is so. Because you said crisscrossed, right? Yeah, yeah.

But they were crisscrossed like in the air. So when you cut them with the chainsaw, right? So like you want to cut them standing. That's what was so wild is nothing was laying on the ground. Everything was crisscrossed so that you could come in with the chainsaw and zing them off and cut them in sections safely. Okay. Just like how dad and I would have done it if it was, if it was us. So I have, it's so crazy.

I've never seen a tree structure. I've never seen one. So weird. So were the trees like broken off at a certain height or like they were not cut? They were broken off, it sounds like. The whole tree was down including the root ball. Oh, really? Yeah, these are trees like, yeah, big trees.

Some of there were some that were broken, but they were smaller. they were they were smaller like like dad and i could have broke them if we had to come along we pulled it down hard enough were any it wouldn't necessarily sorry were any broken off and um upside down or like were any nothing weird like that no it was more about what are the odds that every tree we needed to come down yeah came down in like three three to four days with no storms there were no storms no winds it was just like a normal august day like today um so i don't know it wasn't wow i know and since since we're on the topic of this property i realized i kind of jumped away from the east green bush guy but um i'll i'll just back up a bit

is the day I came out, so purchase the, there was the day I came out with the dog that was sick. And then there was the closing, and then I came out a few days later to do the very first work on the property, like sniping and clipping and taking video. So I go over, I'm just using the weed whip. my dog is in the car and she she is staying so I come up to the car which is along the roadside and she's got her favorite window she's in her non-favorant window her head is her body is out this window as far as it can go and she is standing on an axe a weed whip like bladed things like things a dog doesn't stand on. She's very intent on sticking her head out of this window.

And she's staring at the brushy sumaki, you know, you know, when they trim, trim the side of the road, you get like weedy species, brushy species coming up. And there's power lines. And she's staring. And I walk around the back of the car. I'm like, huh, that's weird. Why are you out that window?

What are you staring at? not thinking Sasquatch, none of that. Just like wonder what caught your eye. And she's staring at it. And I walked to the front of the car to fold up a tarp. So random. Fold up a tarp. And I feel across the top of my head, like it kind of feels like a golf ball,

like as if a golf ball skimmed off, skimmed across those little baby hairs sticking out the top of your head. So it didn't hurt me, but I could feel it skim. And it's coming across my head, the top of the head. It hits a walnut tree in front of me, but in front of that walnut tree in front of me is a little, it's just a tree ahead of it. And they're like, you know, six inches. And so it hits the bigger tree, hits the smaller tree, hits the smaller tree, hits a smaller tree, like a pinball. Bing, bang, bang, bang, bang.

And it rolls to my feet. And I look down thinking it's like a golf ball. And some kid is side-armed a golf ball at me from across the road. Because that's the sound, the feeling. And it's a walnut. And I pick up the walnut. And I sent a picture on one of our email exchanges. is it's the most beautiful walnut you've ever seen.

It's not cut. It's obviously chewed on two sides so that both sides are symmetrical. So got a pattern to it. I've never seen anything like it. And I pick it up and I just start laughing. And then I turn around because I thought somebody's throwing something at me and I see Kiva staring at the woods, not growling, just doing that, huh, huh, the thing.

And I'm like, and I waved. I was like, oh, I guess you guys are here. And I tossed, I was like, well, what can I throw back? I found like a little peppermint. I had from like Sonic in my glove box and tossed it up into the woods. And it was something bizarre like that. happened almost every time I've been out here. I came out here to clear the lamp. There were, see, the tree pushes and the tree pushes were getting scary. So late summer,

I said, hey, guys, like, you're scaring me. And when I speak to them, it sounds kind of crazy. say I it's like I speak with my heart like imagine almost like a mouth coming from my heart so I'm like projecting my thoughts and I'm speaking and I say hey I'm sorry but I have my biology kind of takes over and I get these scare feelings and I freeze up when you push the trees over but I know you want to tell me you're here and I know you want to remind me to maybe treat, but can you leave, or can you, what I say, can you make the sound of an owl, but make it sound fake so I know it's you? And it was like maybe two trips out after that.

I'm at my property, and I hear it sounded just like two men down in the woods, but big men. And they went, who, who, who, who? like the worst bard owl imitation you ever heard you said that out loud right yeah said it out loud and so now i was like uh are there homeless people like down in the woods um and then so there was who who who who and then another one that was further down down the road and goes who who who who I was like, oh, all right. And there hasn't been a tree push since, not a single tree push since. And a whole other summer passed or haven't had any tree falls. So it's like the totality of the circumstances. If trees kept falling here and I've lived here now this time, yes, we have

had trees come down in storms. But the trees that were coming down was like, you know, calm, quiet night. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeets World. Cat parents unite. We have to look out for each other. Yes, we all know the feeling of being ignored by our little babies a little too well.

Yeah, I often wonder to myself, does my cat even love me? Well, there's only one solution to solve that. Sheba. Feed your cat, Sheba and go from feeling ignored to truly adored in 12 days guaranteed or your money back. Sheba has a wide array of products, appetizers, entrees, treats, and even a kitten's menu that will win over even the pickiest eater. My cat Bill is all about Sheba grilled. Just snap, peel, and serve for two gourmet servings and zero messy leftovers. He loves it. Licks it to the bowl. Its protein-rich formula is made with real chicken and seafood without artificial flavors, preservatives,

corn wheat, or soy. So you can be sure your cat is getting the finest ingredients from around the world, but made right here in the USA. Spoil your fur babies and introduce them to the delicious delicacies of Shiba. To learn more, check out Shiba.com. I like things my way, my coffee, my schedule, and my treatment. So I talked to my doctor about self-injecting with the Vivgard-Hytrullo pre-filled syringe, which contains FGar-Tigamon-Alpha and highlaronidase QVC. It's injected under your skin subcutaneously.

It means I can inject in my space on my time. It's my treatment, my heart. Visit Vivgardmyway.com. That's V-Y-V-G-A-R-T-Myway.com. And talk to your doctor about Vivgard Hytrullo, brought to you by Argenics. Aging is real, and so are the benefits of. New vital proteins collagen sparkling water, because around the age of 30, your body needs backup to keep your collagen up. So get your daily glow up, now in three fresh flavors, strawberry blossom, lemon lime, and blood orange.

Improved skin health in as little as 30 days thanks to collagen peptides? Cheers to that. So you can stay vital, stay you. Visit VitalProtines.com to learn more and where to buy. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. And weirdly when I'm putting tools in the car, at the end of the summer, so I suspected that maybe they would be leaving.

At the end of that first summer, I suspected they might leave in the fall. I mean, again, biologists looking around, seeing edible plants go by the wayside, knowing that the apple season was through. I was, okay, oh, sorry, I'm just set the stage here. I mentioned a few things earlier in the discussion, like, I did field work and I looked for fossils. And so I, fossil hunting is like my little, my little fun hobby that I do. when I travel, I'll go all over the country to do a fossil dig. And when I was in college, there were some very specific fossils that I studied because they were indicator, indicator fossils. So, and so this place that I built my house, it is on the kind of limestone that I studied in college, which was kind of neat, kind of things coming around full circle.

I'm also a caver. It's cave forming limestone. So I should mention. that I live along power lines on cave forming limestone at the confluence of two big rivers, the cemetery across the street. It is just kind of funny that I wasn't like a big footer and then this kind of happened. But anyways, so I'm into fossils. So it's the end of the summer and I'm thinking, I wonder how they're going to let me know that they're not here because I'm tossing apples and things like this up into the woods, but I don't want to waste food. And I definitely don't want to encourage, you know, wildlife coming to my, coming, you know, a bear or something like that coming to me while I'm here burning brush all winter. And so I'm down, I'm building a drainage ditch.

And I'm setting up, it's something called riprap. So I'm setting up these like rock dams and things like that to control the water. And there's a, there's a clear deer path that goes down to this creek that I'm, um, manipulating and it's you know it's a deer path right it's worn down and i bent over placing rocks i stand up i'm like okay done for the day walk up the deer path and in the middle of the path is this big rock about um the i maybe like wider than a basketball it's sick it's a sick limestone hunk, but it's got all the layers in the stratigraphy in it, which is very different from the rock on my property. And I know this because I'm into fossils and I am looking at every rock. So from their

perspective, they see me bending over, picking up rocks and looking at them all day long because I'm looking for fossils. But when I get this rock and I saw it from a distance, it like jumped out at me immediately. I was like, oh, oh, my God, where'd that come from? You know, having that freaky moment when like something appears in the trail and you don't know how it got there. And it's just been like minutes since you, you were facing that direction and I approach it. And I'm like, oh, my gosh, that's a good one. That's a good one with fossils in it. And I, you know, I'm examining it. And I look a little. closely and it's got these very specific indicator fossils that I studied in college.

Oh, like, I drew a picture in college of this and that picture is now like, that's exactly what this rock looked like. I was like, oh, my God. Like they took a snapshot of my brain, went and found that rock. Like, I knew where that rock came from. It came from up on Thatcher because that's where I studied. I studied those rocks in college. I was like, that does not come from here.

That came from up at Thatcher. And then I remembered that about maybe like a week earlier, there was a smaller version of this that was, again, in the middle of the trail. And I didn't look very closely at it. I set it aside. I was like, it was like getting dark or something. I was like, oh, that could be a good fossil rock. that that looks out of place. That's weird. And I picked it up and I set it aside. I didn't look harder. So it was almost like they were like here. And I'm like, hey, dummy, you didn't look hard enough

at the little one. So here's a really big one that you get literally have to step over. And I just, that just blew my mind. And then I didn't have any then it was all quiet here until, Oh, there was an incident. There was an incident before this rock thing in the trail. But yeah, it was all quiet here the next year. So it was almost like a parting gift. Like we're not going to interact. You know, I don't know.

I don't want to put anything on it. But it just seems significant. Like to the owl thing, before the end of the summer, I was, I now had a very large fire pit. I had the area cleared all around. for probably about 15 feet all around my fire pit and it was grassy. Then there had been all these weird things happening and like my dog like trying to push me away from the brush and things like that. So I cleared out brush for around the fire pit because it was getting creepy.

And I was, so I had made this habit of when the coals died down, I would just ban the coals. and let it go down to ash and just enjoy the quiet of the night and look up at the stars. So it was in that moment. I'm standing at the edge of the fire pit. I think it was leaning on my shovel or rake or something. And this was after the request to sound like an owl. I, something went like this in my face. It went like that right in my face.

and it had a sound distortion to it, like you would hear from the classic train example. So it was like strong in my face and then trailed, like something was moving very fast past my face when it did it. And obviously my dog freaked. My dog was like, whoa, you know. But was so wild, wilder than the hoo. who in my face of a of something male was the smell there was this waft on the air like if somebody was

running past you there's like a wind and it smelled like skunk and wet dog i i was like no freaking way that is exactly what it smells like smells like a mixture of skunk and wet dog with a a hint of sweetness, and that sweetness was not unpleasant. And I remember thinking, like, you guys don't smell bad. Like, yeah, wet dog, yeah, no big deal. Skunk smelled that before. And that sweetness was an interesting little mix in there. But that was also one of the last things that happened before the end of that season, if you will.

And it stunned me so much that I did. didn't make the owl connection for gosh it was like a month later like anytime these things happens I'm a little bit stupefied like I can't believe that really happened like that that was that really was a thing and um and now I'm just in awe and so I'll fast forward a little bit um this was gosh maybe like a month ago. I was thinking like, gosh, I haven't had any weird experiences, you know, thank God. Like I was like, because I was getting not scared, but like that trepidation of like, all right, I'm getting ready to move out here. The house is on the property. What's this going to be like? Like, am I going to have bangs on the house? Like, am I, like, what's going to happen?

And, but nothing, nothing was happening. There was, you know, no high strangeness, no, no owl noises, no tree pushes, nothing moved, no, you know, you get, you get the picture. So I wasn't even thinking about my, my neighbors. And so I'm getting into my car, like, in and out of my car, taking shovels out or something. And I hear, who? From up in the woods by the cemetery, which is like, you know, I want to say it's across the street, but we're talking like, up the hill. So there's some distance to it. And it was a female. I was like, no way. I've never heard the female. That was really freaking cool. It sounded just like if a big woman was up in the woods, like goofing around and making a who sound to the point where my first thought in my head was, what is some lady doing? some like he'd be doing up there on the land preserve.

Like that makes no sense. I'm just trying to figure out what's going on with your land. It's there's something wild that is going on there. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. The latest thing and I feel like I could be, you know, I feel like I could be reading into this.

But again, it's like the totality of the circumstances. You know, I've, I've, oh gosh, I've had. the experiences with other of these Sasquatches that I've seen. So I haven't even told you all the all the ones that I've seen at this point. I'm not saying that it's a lot, but I have seen, I had an experience where I saw one and put press its face to the window, not at my house. And then I had another experience at Mammoth Cave. I had another experience in Colorado. So at this point, this, so, you know, we're talking, it's been like three, four years now. Now I'm getting more accustomed to it and able to fight down the fear.

And so this happened. And now I have to wonder, like, oh, were they kind of helped me out there? So my car broke down a few days ago and my dad left me his car. There's something going. The tires go flat. fairly quick. So I was and I'm working at night. And so having this car functioning before I go to bed was really, really important. And I just moved in my house a week ago. And so I should also add I'm having a hornet problem. So being out, you know, I don't want to be moving around in the

middle of the night around these hornets that are drawn to my headlamp. So I'm like, what are we going to do with this car? My dad helps me find his pump. The point is, is there's a lot of preparation. I'm out in the driveway, have the car doors open. And I'm like, oh, I got to get the battery for the pump. And so come into the house and I'm exhausted. It's time for me to go to bed. And I'm not thinking straight. and I forget. And so I go in, I make my sandwich, I let the dogs out. I'm about to bring the dogs in. They're out on the deck.

And I can see through the kitchen window or through the living room windows that the dogs are fixated on something at the end of my driveway. And I hear, oh, and I had always wondered what the Sasquatch bark is with my dogs. because with Kiva, it was like a man, if for her, if a man was running by, like jogger, she had this very specific bark. And she did that. I knew one was coming. And I've got a really fantastic story about that in Trenox. I've got to tell you that one.

But so in the back of my mind, I had wondered, well, what's going to be the Sasquatch bark with my dogs? So Kiva died. Sorry, a little bit of backstory. Kiva died and I was scared to live out here without dog protection. And I got my first dog and she was only 40 pounds. I got another dog. She's 60 pounds and eight months old, this giant German shepherd. And so anyway, what's their Sasquatch bark going to sound like?

Well, I think I heard it. So they're chuffing and barking and I'm thinking there's somebody standing at the end of my driveway. because they're fixated. And I'm like, what jerk is like looking at my window, you know, trying to look at my windows from the driveway? And I walk out on my deck and I could tell that, you know, and you have a sense that there was just something there. It was totally still.

The tree limbs were waving back and forth, probably to about eight feet up into the air, as if something big just went from, you know, the end of my driveway up into the woods. And, but the thing is, is the dogs didn't do the deer bark or the bear bark or the dog bark. They did the person bark. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Daniel Fischel. And Rider Strong from PodMeets World. Cat parents unite.

We have to look out for each other. Yes, we all know the feeling of being ignored by our little babies a little too well. Yeah, I often wonder to myself, does my cat even love me? Well, there's only one solution to solve that. Sheba. Feed your cat, Sheba, and go from feeling ignored to truly adored in 12 days guaranteed or your money back. Sheba has a wide array of products, appetizers, entrees, treats, and even a kitten's menu that will win over. even the pickiest eater.

My cat Bill is all about Shiba grilled. Just snap, peel, and serve for two gourmet servings and zero messy leftovers. He loves it. Licks it to the bowl. Its protein-rich formula is made with real chicken and seafood without artificial flavors, preservatives, cornweed, or soy. So you can be sure your cat is getting the finest ingredients from around the world, but made right here in the USA.

Spoil your fur babies and introduce them to the delicious delicacies of Shiba. To learn more, check out Shiba.com. I like things my way, my coffee, my schedule, and my treatment. So I talk to my doctor about self-injecting with the Vivgard-Hytrullo pre-filled syringe, which contains F-Gartegamutalpha and high-loronidase QV-F-C. It's injected under your skin subcutaneously. It means I can inject in my space on my time. It's my treatment, my way.

Visit Vivgardmyway.com. That's V-Y-V-G-A-R-T-My-Way.com. And talk to your doctor about Vivgard-Hitrullo. Brought to you by Argenics. Aging doesn't stop, and neither should you. With vital proteins, collagen, and protein shakes. Because around the age of 30, your body needs more support for movement and recovery. On workout and rest days, reach for a 30 gram total protein shake.

Or go with our classic collagen peptides. Help support healthy hair, skin, nails, bones, and joints. So you can stay vital, stay you. Visit VitalProtines.com to learn more and where to buy. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. this product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. And so, you know, you don't think Sasquatch. You think there's a person there.

But then I got thinking about the totality of the situation, which was, oh, wait a minute, there's a huge ditch on the other side of that road. And then the hillside goes straight up and not straight up, but like those hard embankments that I would have to climb, you know, handover. foot, you know, like kids do, you know, up, up the side of hill. And there's just no way that was a person. I was like, and why would a bear do that? There's a game trail to the right and to the left. And so this is spinning through my head. And then while this is spinning through my head, I noticed, I left the car doors open, the head, the light and the car is on, two, the two flat tires.

Like, and I'm literally, I was, I was getting ready to pull the dogs into the house. And I just waved my, I told the dogs, I said, hey, they're okay. It's okay. The dogs stopped barking. I just waved and said, thank you. Thank you so much. Took care of my car and went in. And I thought, oh, I'm really glad I left them three snickers up in the woods the day before.

So, yes, it could have been anything. but it's the totality of the circumstances. It's the coincidences. It's the, I have to just, you know, I figure, I'd rather thank my good neighbors than than not thank them. And you know what I mean? Like, I'd rather be my imagination and I'm thanking them. I reached out with my mind and said, look, I will leave the curtains open for you.

You can watch me when I'm sleeping. you can see through the windows that I'm cooking. You can, you know, I'm okay with you watching me, but I just don't ever want to wake up in the middle of the night and look out the window and see a face staring at me. I'm not ready to see your face. And that's kind of where we're at. And like maybe someday I will be ready to see them.

But at this point, it seems like there's been great, care not to scare me. And I don't want to be one of those people that my ego jumps in and say, like, I'm special or I have a message. I'm just living peacefully with something. And since that 2019 experience, I have had other paranormal experiences. I didn't even tell, like, it's not just since 2019, it's been a lot of my life, but I just never recognized things in that way. Like, I used to live by, I used to work by Skimwalker Ranch, you know, saw a lot of things out there. You know, I had friends that had Sasquatch stories. It's just since about 2019, I've started just maybe recognizing things as, okay, with my science background,

there's some things that I don't understand that we don't understand yet, but I can try to understand. I can test. I can look for repeatability. If I reach out to something in the forest and there's nothing there, but I've lived a good life and feeling like I'm in harmony, then that's better than not reaching out and just feeling like, oh, I guess trees fall all the time on the property. be like I don't know it's um in some ways it's a choice but um but there's a lot of things that have happened so I'll I'll give them I'll give one another example this is one of my favorite stories because when I tell people when I tell people at like conferences and like White Hall and stuff like that I get blank stairs back it's it's like kind of but yet I lived it so

this was back when I was hunting for property. This was after the experience where I saw one lean out from behind the tree. Now I'm on the west side of the Hudson. I'm happy sharing where it was out by Clarksville. And there's a famous, not famous. There's like, to us cavers, it's well known, the Clarksville Cave. And the property right next to it was for sale. I wanted that property so badly to put a cave.

community, you know, like Airbnb there. And at this point, I'd had several of these experiences with the forest friends that I knew like, okay, this is cave, cave area. You know, there's a possibility that they could be here. So I took the afternoon, this is full, full pandemic mode. The real realtor couldn't meet me out there. They just said go on out there and, you know, take pictures. So I went out to take pictures and dig a test pit. And I again, blissed out, you know, taking photos, finding plants I hadn't seen, honoring the cave that was there, planning the future. And there was no Sasquatch activity. And I thought, gosh, surely after that, I mean, I was like expecting something to peek out from behind a tree after just having that,

experience. So my nerves are calming down. I was like, oh, I've been out here for a few hours. Nothing weird has happened. You know, silly Jenny in her imagination. Like I can just like move on with my life. You know, those were like weird one-off. So I'm at the end of the time there. I, um, there, oh yeah, and there's trail cameras everywhere because it's Clark's so caves. There's, there's, there's trail cams. So I just stepped from the area where all the trail cams are facing toward Clark's cave onto what I'm sure is the property that I want to purchase. And I hear my dog, Kiva, at the car, going, boom, like she does when a man runs really fast past the car. And I thought, oh, that's, you know, that's funny. Like there's some guy, some guy down there, maybe, you know, but I thought, I've been here all this time.

can't be a Sasquatch, right? Because they had ample time to reveal themselves. So kind of half-chuccle and, you know, laughily. I was like, okay, guys, I'm leaving now. If you're here, you're going to have to make yourselves known. And as the word known leaves my lips, I hear, it sounded exactly how people describe it. It sounded like a Louisville slugger breaking in half, but this Louisville slugger, slugger is like eight inches thick. It was the loudest craziest crack. And there were three of them, one right above my head, one on the other side of the little like field. It's like, you know, maybe 100 feet. And then another one about 100 feet behind that. So it was crack, crack, but that crack above my head was literally above my head. I thought,

that a tree branch was about to fall in my head. I thought that a tree, giant tree branch had broken above my head. It was in the process of falling on me. And I jumped out of the way and looking over my shoulder to the left at the same time, there was a tree there. It was only about six feet high because it probably broke off, a hundred years ago. It was like a hundred year old skeleton of a giant white pine

and the rest of the tree was laying on the ground. I was like, so there was nothing, there was no matter to percuss. I was like, what did I do? Like go back in time to the moment that that tree broke. Like, that's not, like, that's not a thing either. And, um, and it was so loud. so scary and I thought I was about to be crushed. I instantly had to pee. And I just said, you guys are going to do that to me. You're going to get mooned. And I dropped my piss. I had to pee. I had to pee really bad. And I just, but people say like that like, like, or when I say people, I told you a little earlier about my friend Chris. And I had many comments.

conversations with her like trying to understand again like what what was this a bear was this a was this a was this a what was this you know what was this you know what was this great is this friend of mine who's I would say psychic she's great about being like nope jenny that was a nothing like that was nothing it was like okay that's cool like it helps me like discern the feelings um so anyways I've asked her like what what is this about like and she just says well they think you're hilarious and um i think that this is a theme that people might that i think the community could take a look at so when i listen to these podcasts and i hear these stories from people i don't think oh that was a scary story necessarily i think all that faskatch is having a

great time messing with that person they does that make sense like they're having a They're having a great time at our expense. And I think they leave tracks to taunt people. I think they're just like, oh, you know what would be really funny? One track in the mud puddle. Right. Or like, you know what would be really funny? It would be like make this silly thing out of sticks and just leave it in the woods

and sit and watch people like stop and look at it. Or, oh, let's toss pebbles of them. So for me, that through all of these experiences, I look as like, oh, ha, ha, ha, ha, like, you guys are having a good time. And then I will, like, do something funny in return. So, like, when I got hit with the walnut, I was like, okay, fine, you're going to throw something with a funny pattern at me. I'm going to throw back a piece of candy with a funny pattern on it. And it's peppermint. It's probably, like, it's probably too strong.

I mean, it's going to be like a, I don't know, maybe not delicious. Right. It's not a Snickers bar, so, you know. Exactly. So obviously that's not going to be the case with everybody, but I'm just saying that has been my experience. So, and I had been in a terror, I left one of my first stories with them. I left on a different podcast.

I don't know if you want me to say it out loud. No, go ahead. It was Brian King Sharps. Yeah, totally. Yeah, love that podcast. You know, Brian, Tiffany, Wayne, all the folks associated with those productions. And so I, it was like this three-day adventure where something pursued us in the forest. And ultimately, I believe now I got hit with infrasound.

And I got to experience that like instant, like the bowels are moving. You got to pee. And so that's kind of like what is more fun to Sasquatch, right? To then like see a bunch of people and all of a sudden make them feel sick and pee. Yeah, I don't know. Like you kind of kind of think of it from their perspective. Like I think they just love messing with us. like um i think there might be i think you definitely might be on to something there that there's

probably there's definitely an entertainment factor it you know that it's got to be i mean i feel like yeah there's an entertainment factor the way that they watch us and stuff there's definitely something there and like with the who like with the owl thing like i asked him to sound like an owl so what does he do he he runs up and he goes who like right in my face because I said like because it won't be as scary. So what he does is he does something that's terrified. There you go. You asked for, you asked for this lady. Like you're the one who asked for it. Like I'm sure it was hilarious to them. And or to the homeless people living in my woods. Like what is the alternative? I have homeless people living in my woods.

And I can't quite see and that my dog like allows it starts getting weirder and weirder. And I do want to know is I have encountered feral people. I think maybe I have encountered feral people before in the forest. And I have encountered like in North, I worked in North Georgia for years. I mentioned this on Brian's podcast. Like I did encounter students when I worked at the World. program report seeing man in the bushes.

You know, another time someone came as, like I went by the name GI there. And the GI, there's somebody with a red headlamp staring at me while I'm peeing, you know, and then my dog tracks something up into the forest. So whether that's a person or something else, there's definitely... This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeets World. Cat parents unite. We have to look out for each other. Yes, we all know the feeling of being ignored by our little babies a little too well.

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and that's where I saw my first, that's where I saw somebody just, like, this person looked so feral. And they just walked in front of my van in the middle of the night. And it was freaky, like, no headlight. It was no headlamp on, just like walking through the forest. Like they knew every rock, every, you know, I don't know. It was, anyway, I've seen that. And, you know, I've come across shelters in the forest that I believe were clearly people. And I knew a guy.

He just lived up in a cave up in Little Cottonwood Canyon for the winter. You know, I worked with this guy up at Brighton. So people do live in unusual circumstances. And I think that's important to mention. So, you know, so my family, I think, is of the impression of like, yeah, we just really hope it's not homeless people, you know, homeless people living in your woods, messing with you. Yeah. Yeah, right. And so I got, I have a two dogs, one very large one.

And anyway, so I was rambling on. But so that experience with the crack of the tree, I would, I'll call it tree knocks. I don't know other way to describe other way to put it. But I have said to people before, like quote unquote researchers, I was like, look, I experienced one right above my head. I'm telling you, I could not see what made it. there was no matter to percuss there was no stick there was no there was nothing and there were two more that followed so it came so it was like you don't believe one maybe you don't believe two we'll give you three and um you know what i mean so anyway um and i get blank stairs so there's definitely

hot you know high strangeness that we still could look at as data, right? So what I'm talking about is repeatability. So sure, I'm walking through the woods. I hear a crack that sounds like a tree break. I have been in the woods as a wilderness guide and almost been killed by trees that, you know, branches that randomly fall in the forest. Trees that fall, lightning strikes, all that stuff. It does truly happen. How many times does it happen when you say, hey guys, I'm about to leave. You know, if you want to make yourselves known, you know, you got to do it now. Like, yeah, that's, that's a different level. Yeah. Jenny, I think, I think I would definitely love you to come back for a part two,

because I've made a list here of topics that we haven't even, I mean, you were mentioned Skinwalker Ranch and Mount Hood and North Georgia. And I mean, I think I would love to have you back. But this has been absolutely incredible. I'm glad you had it. I'm glad you had fun. I do enjoy talking to. I feel really, you know, at home.

I realize I'm a rambler. I'm a talker. And I had step-by-step notes, which I, you know, I got lost in my brain and sit down a long time ago. I would love to come back. I would, you know, I had entered into this conversation thinking that maybe we would even discuss more about the science. I can answer a lot of like genetic questions and, you know, like talk about the science of things. Yeah, I'd love to come back. And obviously the experiences here I don't think are just going to stop.

No, I don't think they are. Yeah. And I haven't even gotten into since I'm careful who I share the experiences with because some of my friends who I've shared things with now have had what you call them like confirmations. And I would love to talk for another time, but about the one I saw Chris's face in the window. that one looked like a caveman, more like what I hear Fred up in Alaska described. That was another one of those crazy stories that happened during my meditation group. And then obviously I saw the individual over by East Greenbush. I saw that one.

I've seen them one, I would say one last time also around that meditation group. And then I mentioned earlier, I'm also. happy to, um, to, you know, do hypnosis for somebody that has had an experience that they want to derive more information from. And you can cut that out if you want, but I'm just, you know, I'm just putting that out there. Um, you know, it's obviously there's a state involved with some of my experiences and I'm open to those being, um, hallucinatory because I understand how those neurotransmitters work. But like I said, I think as a community, what we need to do with the high strangeness is test it, test it for repeatability and accept that, yep,

some of this could be in our head, but if it's testable and repeatable, we need to look at it as a data point and try to understand it. And I guess my final word on this is, yeah, I'm a scientist, chemist, biologist, deep into the science. And when the Venn diagram starts overlapping with things I can't explain, I don't believe the answer is to reject it. I believe the answer is to test it. And that's kind of, that's where I'm at. I think that's a perfect way to kind of sum up what we've been talking about today. And yeah, just thank you for coming on, Jenny.

And we'll definitely be in touch to set up a second time. but thank you. Thanks, Jeremiah. I hope you have a wonderful night. You as well. Bye-bye. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications,

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We can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening. It's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the... courage to come out and now I feel so bad about it. Who cares with anybody's things? I know what I saw. I know what's out there. That's all I care about. Please let people know. Please let them know. If you ever see one of these things, you need to tell because if you don't, then shame on you. You know, shame on you. This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeets World.

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This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeets World. Cat Parents Unite. We have to look out for each other. Yes, we all know the feeling of being ignored by our little babies a little too well. Yeah, I often wonder to myself, does my cat even love me? Well, there's only one solution to solve that. Sheba.

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This is Daniel Fischel. And Rider Strong from PodMeets World. Cat parents unite. We have to look out for each other. Yes, we all know the feeling of being ignored by our little babies a little too well. Yeah, I often wonder to myself, does my cat even love me? Well, there's only one solution to solve that. Sheba. Feed your cat, Sheba, and go from feeling ignored to truly adored in 12 days guaranteed or your money back. Sheba has a wide array of products, appetizers, entrees, treats, and even a kitten's menu that will win over

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