Bigfoot Society - A Stevens County Man Shares 50 Years of Sasquatch Encounters in Washington

Episode Date: March 4, 2026

In this episode, we delve into the extraordinary lifetime experiences of Hillbilly from Stevens County, Washington, a lifelong outdoorsman who has spent more than five decades in the forests surrounding Hunter’s Pass, Waits Lake, and the Columbia River corridor. Growing up in eastern Washington and eventually purchasing land in the same region, Hillbilly shares how his encounters began in the early 1970s and continued steadily over the course of his life.From a violent late-night impact on a camper near Hunter’s Pass to piercing screams in the mountains near Waitts Lake, Hillbilly recounts a series of events that shaped his understanding of what moves through these woods. After settling on his own property in Stevens County, the activity followed in the form of thunderous roars near a beaver dam, a 17-inch footprint discovered in spring mud, explosive tree knocks on a hunting ridge, and repeated rock throwing around his shop.As the years passed, Hillbilly describes increasingly direct experiences, including towering eye shine at the edge of his driveway and a daylight sighting along the Columbia River of a fully hair-covered figure standing along a ridge line. He reflects on how these encounters affected his family, his perspective on the land, and his evolving view of the beings he believes travel ancient corridors through eastern Washington.Join us as we navigate his decades of encounters in Stevens County and explore what may still be moving quietly through the mountains of eastern Washington.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072

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So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods for. ever so stay with us all right bigfoot society you've got the privilege of talking to hillbilly today uh this gentleman is from stevens county washington uh also from around the hunter's pass area is another thing that he said i could point out but uh hillbilly's on the show to share some really interesting things that he has experienced in this area over the years there's going to be a lot in this one. So Hillbilly, sir, how are you doing today? I'm doing pretty good, Jeremiah. How are you all doing? Oh, doing great. We're just hanging out here in Iowa, and it's a pretty good day so far. But, man, Stevens County has a lot going on in it, sir. Oh, yeah. You're a

lifelong hunter, fisherman, outdoorsmen, and you've been in these woods for such a long time out here in Stevens County. I want to say almost 40 years is what you told me, right? Yes, sir. My wife would I bought this dirt with nothing on it? She was 36 years ago. My goodness. Well, Hillbilly, I know you've got some things to share. You've got it. all squared away on your side. Feel free to take us back to when you first started realizing there was something going on out there, I guess.

Okay, well, that'll actually that's going to be before we bought this dirt. Just to give you a little info here, my dad passed away with a massive heart attack when I was seven. He was a master mechanic, and that was down to Tri-Cities. My mom had ended up moving us.

Well, we went to Oregon for almost a year down in the outskirts of Medford. And she wanted a little farm. So we'd come up to Spokane. And she bought this old run-down mini farm out in Green Acres, it was called, believe it or not. And that was in winter of 69. And let's just fast forward to 1971. one, mom loved huckleberries, and my grandpa'd come to live with us. Six months after my dad passed away, my grandma passed away.

And so grandpa came up, and my mom had heard about this place where there was thumbnail-sized huckleberries and lots of them. And so she got the directions, and we come up about a, well, close to hunters past, let's say. and back in them days, it was just a goat trail. I mean, we had to put our truck and camper into compound first gear to crawl up to what they call the four corners area. And we turned right. That was, well, the four corners, probably nine miles from the highway. And we'd come up on about a quarter mile to the right,

up on the ridge, and lo and behold, we found Huckleberries. It's kind of sparse, but they were bigans. and so anyway mom parked the truck camper on the north side of that old Forest Service Road right next to a big old mound of shale

in fact the whole area was a lot of shale up there and this is a pretty steep embankment and she's parked about eight foot away from it I guess backed up there and we'd pick Huckleberries that day and got right a few

and we all went to bed probably around 9 30, 10 o'clock at night. And my mom, she slept in the overhead of the camper. My grandpa slept in the bed that was up against to what you'd call back of the cab. And then I slept on the floor on the cot. And if I remember correctly, it was about 1 o'clock in the morning. A big old bang hit the side of the camper, and it rocked. that old chivalet. I mean, it rocked it good. And grandpa, he first one up and he always wore long johns. I mean, we're talking 12 months of the year because he had for circulation and was always cold.

And this is in July. And he grabbed his 44 that was laying on the counter and a flashlight and stepped over me and opened the door. by that time I was getting up. They swung that door open, shined the flashlight around, couldn't see nothing, couldn't hear nothing. And go, what was going on? And so we actually stepped down the little steps going out the back of the camper,

and we're looking around, there ain't nothing there. And it's just, I mean, it's quiet as the church mouse out there. And we're looking and looking. And grandpa, he shines his light on the side of the camper and here's this big old dent up at the very top of it about 12-13-inch diameter just a big old dent and went in about an inch and it was at the very top and the next day we'd measured it and it's nine foot from the ground up to that well next morning that when we was looking

around uh he noticed there were two what looked like skid marks coming down that show Jay O Hill next to the camper and he goes, there ain't no pair like that around here, you know, and just couldn't, you know, couldn't believe that something could get at that high up. And we wasn't parked under no trees where a branch or something to get it. You know, just left his kind of dumbed by. I remember him chuckling saying something about some Missouri-wide,

Missouri Wild Manor Sutton me said, we never thought much about it. Anyway, we ended up finishing up that it took us two days to get all the berries and have to mom wanted to can up and make preserves and tellies and champs out of.

We'll fast forward about three months. It was the night before the day of deer season. And once again, me and grandpa and mom went up to a place close to Waites Lake, which as the crow flies, it ain't very far from where we was picking Huckleberry's up there at four corners. And I remember we'd pull down in this little place, and they called it Little Sweden. But all it was was forests and big open meadows and stuff like that.

and I don't think there was another anybody camped within, oh shoot, probably a half mile of us at least a half mile and I remember we got up there about sundown that night because that was I think it was a Friday night and

was getting camp set up and that broken day and it must have been somewhere around 10 o'clock at night me and grandpa was outside the camper, mom was inside, getting stuff arranged, and all of a sudden we heard this scream

that I'll tell you, brother, it was the loudest, most piercing, blood-curdling scream you could ever imagine, very high-pitched. And my mom poked her head out the camper door and looked at my grandpa, and said, Daddy was that a dang

panther? And about that time it did it again. And I'll tell you, Jeremiah, that stream lasted somewhere in the neighborhood a 15 second wrong, each one of those streams.

Now, we never heard nothing after that, but I remember my grandpa saying, that ain't an old cat. They ain't got that much wind. and like I said it was thought it had to have gone on for

at least 12 to 15 seconds each one of those high-pitched you could almost describe it as a woman with a real high-pitched voice screaming at the top of her lungs but carrying on and on she never ran out of air type thing

We never saw anything, never heard anything again after that. But that was the two encounters back in 71. They both was in 71 and about three months apart because we were picking the October. It's in July, I think, was. And then the season, I think, started in October. So, yeah, there's only about three months apart there. Now we're going to have to fast forward.

they're up to 1990. And in 1990, my wife and I decided we wanted to buy a piece of ground up in Stevens County and have kids raise them up here, which we did. And anyways, in 1990, I found an ad for 40 acres more or less, Stead Stevens County. And my mom was still alive then, and she wanted to go with us to look at it. And so we got the direction, told the realtor we had meet him on the Hunter's Highway. That's what we called it.

It's actually called the Springdale to Hunter's Road. And we had meet him there and then follow him up where the property was. And we got almost all the way here. My mom's looking around. And she goes, you know, son, This looks awful familiar. And I went, yeah, I think so. I said, we used to come up this road back then.

It was a goat trail. I said, we used to come up this dirt road and walk to the top of the ridge up there and pick off a berry. She goes, that's right. She said, that's that time that something slammed us den at the top of the camper. And I go, yes, sir, that's the one. but we ended up looking at the property and I looked over at my wife

and I said, I don't know about you, but I like it. And she said, let's just buy it. So we actually bought the property that day and decided that we would just buy a manufactured home, put on the property, have a well drilled. And power, there was a power line already here from decades before.

So I didn't have to pay to have the power brought in, but we had to do a septic and everything. We actually was able to move in to a home in in August. We decided we'd live in the camper for a couple weeks until I got the manufactured home and set brought in, or brought in and set. And we'll fast forward a couple months and oh, probably mid-September, I think

it was. I told my wife, I said, hey, I said, I'm going to walk across that field and that over to the creek, because there's a creek only 150 foot away from literally the front door of a house.

And so I grabbed my old 12 gauge and walked across the field and there's a fever dam that was somewhere in the neighborhood of 30, foot long, a big one. And I went, shoot, I'm going to get over in that thick. That will spook me up some

grouse. And I made it about halfway across that Beaver Dam, and my dang foot slipped, or one of the beaver logs kind of rolled a little bit, and I almost dropped my shotgun, and I've cleared it out. Oh, crap! And within about a second

and a half for two seconds, I got the most ungodly, roar, scream, holl, or whatever you all want to call it, of my life. It put instant fear, terror, scaredness, whatever you all want to call it, into me. And I don't know how I'd done it, but I somehow stumbled around and literally ran off the top of that. Beaverdam and I ran across that field when I got up in the front yard area I'm looking I'm going

Lord I'm carrying a loaded 12-gauge shotgun and running from this thing and I burst in the front door into the kitchen and laid my shotgun on the table and I'm just I'm out of breath I'm shaking like a leaf and my

my wife looks at me and she goes what going on She said, you was white as a ghost boy. And I said, give me a cup of coffee. And she poured me a cup of coffee. And I lit a cigarette and still shake. And I couldn't even pick the coffee up. I'd shake him so bad.

And then I told her what had happened. And I said, honey, I says, I've never in my life heard anything like this. In fact, as we're talking, Jeremiah, I am just getting. I'm super goosebumps all over because it's still scared me today but the only way I can describe it

it almost sounded like an elephant's trunk frost with a lion's roar that just goes on and on and on I mean it actually I can remember it vibrated my chest Every night they tip the lids And there are so many

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And it took a few days for me to even think about walking back down yonder. And I ended up, I had a 300 weatherman. And I told him, so why I was like, I'm going to get my rifle. I said, I'm going to walk back down there. And I said, I ain't going in there because there's a big picket there. but I said, I'm going to poke my head around and look and see if I maybe can startle something again. And I started making noise before I got to that Beaver Dam because I figured whatever it was, if it's still in there, I wanted it to shout out to me. And I actually ended up, I couldn't get nothing to respond.

I actually made my way across that Beaver Dam. And I got into this thicket. And I mean a real thick picket, boy, say that past, of aspirates and that. And in the middle of this area, I'd walked in probably about 30, maybe 40 feet. I've seen this area and all the grass was laid down, just, I mean, mashed right down to the dirt. And I thought, oh, deer beds. but there wasn't no deer scattered nothing there. There was nothing at all just blackened grass.

Now, to give you a little rundown on the dirt we got out here, this place sits on an 85-foot thick clay bed. And in the springtime, when everything's melted and the ground's all soggy, you can take your foot and stomp down hard on the ground, and you can see it jiggling like putting six foot away from you. But let it sit for a couple of months in the summer and grab a pickaxe and with the pointed in, swing it as hard as you can.

You're only going to penetrate that ground about two inches with a pickax swung at full force. That's how hard this ground gets. So, yeah, There was no tracks to speak of of anything. But that was that little experience. And we have to go on a couple of years because I was a mechanic my whole life.

And I worked in another town, let's say. I ran a shop there. See, that was 1990. Okay, well, we'll step forward a couple of years to when my boys were born. They were born in the middle 90s. And when they got a little older than that, I bought dirt bikes for me. I mean, real young age, too, but I taught them out of how I had them dirt bikes shoot I think my one son, he was three and a half when I put him on a hundred fifty,

and he'd done good. But we would go past the property and head up on the mountains a little farther, and there's a spot up there that we call the moose ponds, and that's because right next on the, let's see, Ropadapit, I'd be on the west side of the fire road, whatever, the forest road. There's two big old huge ponds, and you'd always see moose there. So we just kind of nicknamed it to Moose Ponds. And there was a spur road that took off there that ran on the west side of the moose ponds,

up and around into a big loop, and then come back out to the same road, spur road that you went in on. And I'm going to say that little circular road probably covered, oh, somewhere around 120 acres, I'm just guessing. And so me and the boys, we turned on that spur road on our motorcycle and started riding up. And it was in late spring. So there was still mud puddles, but the main ground was, very good and dry.

And we come up to this big, old huge mud puddle, and I saw when I, because I'd always be in the lead, and then they'd follow on their little Hondas. And we come up with this big mud puddle on the right-hand side of it, I seen a dang footprint. So I stopped, put the kickstand down on the bike,

so the boy, and we walked up there, because I thought it was a bear. When I first rode up on it, I thought it was a bear track and it got its square paw into the flank paw, the way they do, you know, and it kind of makes them look along. But when I walked up to it and looked down at it, and I'm going, I ain't no bear, because there ain't no claw marks on the end of them toes, and them are big toes, and they're splayed out. And I told the boys, I said, would you look at that? and there was nothing on the right side because it was hard pans lay, but there were just that one footprint there.

So I went off and I got a stick and I broke it the length of it. And then I laid the stick sideways across what I think they call it the ball of the foot or right behind the toes there. And I skinned the bark on the stick for the width of it. and we seen a ridge right in front of what the, I guess you'd call the heel, about two inches in front of that. There was a ridge that went across kind of not exactly straight across. It was, you know, kind of had a dog leg in it. And couldn't figure that out until later when we was watching shows and Jeff Melgram had mentioned that mid-carcel breakpoint in the foot.

Well, anyways, we finished our ride. We got back home. I took a tape major. That dang track was 17 and a half inches long and seven and a half inches wide at the ball. And I started kicking it up, destroying it. My oldest son was the year older than my youngest. He said, why are you doing that, Dad? He said, they cast up.

I said, no. I said, and don't you guys be breathing them wording none of this to your friends. I said, I don't need people up here shooting at anything that moves in the brush. I said, there's a bunch of idiots and do just that. I said, let's just keep this to ourselves.

I said, half the people ain't going to believe us anyways, you know. But that was the first time I'd ever seen a track up here. Now we're going to fast forward by this time boys are 12 years old and they got their hunting license I got them some brand new rifles I think one boy

at 12 years old was carrying a 444 Marlin and the other one was carrying a 308 but we decided that we was going to go across our creek and up on the hillside

and And we had seen some big bucks come through there in late evening and early mornings in that in the past few weeks. And there was an old road over there that a feller had put in, oh shoot, probably back in the 70s, that when he did a little selective logging and that. So we went ahead and crossed over, got up there and was walking down that road. Now, where my house was this area, I mean, it was straight west of my front door on my house down yonder. And but up, oh, I don't know, 150 yards maybe. and we're being really quiet walking down this road

and it's all overgrown pretty good and from riding our motorcycle through there we knew this one area it looked like it might have been probably 40 well probably a 30 acre area that had been clear cut out years and years and years ago

and there were a few you know small pole finds and Douglas fir and tamarack growing just little little thing so and we had got up and I said and I'd be really really quiet when we get up here and I was trying to decide for where I was going to put the boys and I'd probably walk up and flush out of deer for them and but I remember we walked up on that old road and we had no more got to the corner there and we're just standing there real quiet looking at this hillside, it was pretty steep hillside. Like I said, it was around a 30-acre area and then it was bordered on the south side by a huge, huge thicket that went clear up to the top of it, which, I mean, it was thick.

You couldn't see anything through it. And we'd only been there maybe two minutes. All of a sudden, we heard the biggest crap we'd ever heard. Now, Jeremiah, for me to describe this, it's going to sound far-fetched, but I can only describe it of it sounded like somebody took a five or six inch diameter log

and smack it as hard as they we're talking it has to take a machine to do it and smacked it against about a three foot diameter tree that's what it sounded like I mean it was ain't no man gonna do it

well the end of the boys had already been watching shows and that on Bigfoot and they knew that at that time I believed it existed.

The first time I seen it, I think I've eight years old that was on the world or nightly news or something that was right after my box passed away and they had a little flash of the Patterson

Gimlin film on the news and I remember seeing that thing, that Patty, they call it now, walking, and I just knew that there had to be something in the woods, you know. And, but anyways, it stared so bad that we high-tailed it out there, and we came back home, and I remember, I think it was my youngest boy, got his baseball bat, an old wooden went out, and he walked down, beating on trees out here trying to see how loud it was

and it just shoot it didn't even come close to the loud crack that that was so we'll fast forward a couple days and the boys didn't want to go back up there but I told him I said look I said

we all got guns you stick right with me I said let's just sneak back up there and I said let's see if we can see tracks or something or hear something. I said, I got a funny hunch. I know what that is.

And it was two or three days. I can't remember which. Later, we ended up walking back up there and tamed it all. Same thing happened. It was within, except it was quicker this time because we actually made a little noise coming up to it. we know more than got to that corner when we was standing a couple days before and here come that big old out just one not multiple just one big old loud and i said yep i'm good let's go and of course the boys that already turned around was heading back down the road and we're going home dad you stay here if you want to we're going on home but uh so that takes care of

of that. Now, like I said, I've got piles and piles of different encounters than that that we had come across, but we're going to fast forward a few years. By this time, the boys are already grown up. I'm guessing, oh, shoot, I'm guessing it was somewhere around 2017, 2018, maybe. My youngest

son and I was out on our, by that time, we'd built a new house across the road and up on a hill and still on the same property that we've always been. But it was about 11 o'clock

at night and we was talking about engines and stuff. and race cars and that that I built over the years. We're at the end of our deck. It'd be the west end of it. Now, I got a big old huge shop that's about 450 foot down the hill towards the road. And it's kind of a meadowy field behind it. And then you come to this little,

seven acre area that is just solid trees and it's got a seasonal trick with close to it and that but we're out there laughing talking having a cigarette there on the front porch there at the end of it and we're hearing something coming out of that picket behind my shop and i go listen to that son and it sounds like a troop of monkeys playing i mean it's sounded like monkey talk. I'm not talking for real grunts or anything. I'm talking.

It sounds like monkeys in there. And I go, I know dang well we ain't got monkeys in these air woods. And I went, I'm going to try something. And I went, whoop,

and everything went quiet. And then we heard two whoops back along with a glunt. My son looked to me and he said, hey, you know what? dad let's go in the house. He said,

I don't need to hear no more, and we did. It spoke just pretty good, and we come back in the house. But it was kind of funny throughout the, the years, even up to date, my son's just,

well, like I said, we built drag cars and dragged boats and stuff, and we'd be working in the shop late. I mean, late at night, you know, 11, 12 o'clock, you know, finishing something up. And they'd have the stereo blasting Vivison in summertime.

The doors would be open, big old sliding doors. We would hear rocks bounce off the roof to that shop. And like I said, we, the area around here is it's clay.

The only rocks that you will find out here was what I've paid to have brought in over the years. But in the seasonal creek, you can see rocks from the war shouts, you know, from the war shouts

in that over the years. But we would hear them rocks bouncing off the roof. And this is a big old tin building, you know, at 3,000 square foot, I think,

pretty loud inside. We'd grab the flashlights and go out, and we'd find small. I'd say two inch diameter rocks where they had bounced off the roof and then, you know, roll down and landed next to the shop. We kind of knew what it was, but, I mean, it spooked us because I thought, you know, what's next, you know, but that had happened, you know, quite honestly.

Dangar's every year. Well, as time went on, the one thing I did notice around here, was the fact that we didn't have activity 12 months of the year. Nothing in the wintertime that we ever recollected. Nothing, I mean, nothing. It was like mid to late summer and the fall was when we would see eyeshine, we'd hear towels off in the distance and a couple of woods. and but it was never in the wintertime,

never did get any activity in the wintertime. And we don't live too awful far from the Spokane Indian Reservation. And I was talking, I know a lot of people there. I used to do a lot of work for them, that on engines and stuff. And I was talking to a couple old elders and the old, one of their rangers and they said well you know they said

they used to follow the tribe a couple hundred years ago because it was kind of like nomadic they would they called it the food trail and they said it would usually start around the Spokane River area

and then the tribe would go down to like for the confluence of the Colombian Spokane River is And then they'd follow the Columbia River up to like the Kettle Falls area. And then whatever time of the year it was, they'd come back down to a corridor. And that was the way the Indians done it back then. They was, you know, followed the food trail. And if you know anything about the Kettle Falls and the Highway 25,

river road along there, even though we're up in the Huckleberry Mountains, there's orchards up there, there's vineyards, and you know yourself to have a growth season like that, you're in the banana belt. So it makes sense that your food is going to be more plentful up that way towards the winter months and that. And I'm thinking because of the fish, in the river and the cricks and the vegetation and that. Yeah, it makes sense to what they was telling me about the way that the Spokane tribe used to travel for their food sources and that, because this all used to be their land in the first place, you know, before the Europeans come in and stole it away from them.

And, oh, golly, there's just so many stories here, Jeremiah, that I know I'm missing a lot. but we're going to we're going to fast forward again I think it was the year of COVID which if I remember I was 2019 my wife and I had a live-a-board big cruiser that we kept down at two rivers marina there are the confluence of the Spokane and Columbia rivers and we literally lived on it about 65% of the time and I remember one day she had a lot of stuff she had to do in Spokane and I said and I stayed at home and I said well I'm going to pack the truck up because we were going to go on a eight-day cruise up towards Cooney Dam and then turn around come back and go up towards Canada with it fuel providing that thing it wasn't an economy boat by any mean it had twin Chevolades in it and as long as you kept the throttles down on it she did all right but she still swallowed up a lot of gas. But anyways, I got a real late start by the time I got foods and everything packed up in the truck.

And I left out of here about midnight. Well, my wife had already gone down, had already been down to the boat and was waiting for me. And I went across Hunter's Pass. Because that's how I used to go across Hunter's Pass over to 100s. The town of hunters turned on 25 and left there on 25 and then head down to the marina. It was only 35 minutes away from where we lived as long as I kept my foot out of it. But I got across Hunter's Pass. I've made it about three-eighths of a mile from the summit down the other side.

And there I come around a left-hand corner. there's a straightaway that's like, oh, I don't know, to 600 foot long, maybe 700 foot. And at the bottom of that straightaway, they got one of them reflective curve sides to the right. Well, ironically, on the, let's call it the south side of the highway, there's a trick that goes through there.

there's a big old pond out there. There is an old dirt road and there's a dilapidated cabin in this area. I mean, I don't think anybody lived there in a hundred years, you know. But as I come around that corner and my lights hit the reflective curve sign, all of a sudden I'm looking kind of at the bottom of that sign. a few yards, I see what it's going to make the lap. It looks like three skunks hopping across the dang highway. It's going at an angle from left to right, or excuse me, from right to left at an angle down hill to that, towards that brick and pond area. And I'm going that that can't be. And then it dawned on me.

it was. I couldn't see any, I mean, it was black. It was black black out that night. Dark black. I couldn't see anything of legs, upper body, or anything, nothing whatsoever.

And I had my high beams on. And what I figured it was, or figured out it was, as this thing's step, since then, I've seen that they step funny. As a step, they raise their feet up really high to the back. What I was seeing

was the soles of their feet reflecting off in the headlights, kind of like that sign was. And like I said, it took three steps, which I thought was three stunk hops, and it was across the road and gone. And that spooked me pretty good. But now in 20, let's see, it's 2026.

This is that happened. My son was here. I'd ask him what year it was. But he'd come home late one night, about 11, 30, 12 o'clock. And he had already been spooked down there

at the shop because it seemed like every time We went down there and opened the door. You know, rocks would either hit the back of the shop or bounce off the top. It was nothing violent by any means. They were just like, hello, we're here, you know. And anyways, he pulled up to the house up here. And he had heard his engine, he had heard something under the hood, nice of noise. So he popped the hood.

And was shining his little bitty flashlight down. He saw where he had frayed the serpentine, belt on the engine and it was making a thumpin noise. Well, the engine was setting there running and all of a sudden there's a little bitty thumb-sized rocks bouncing by him. He goes, what the heck?

And he looks and now, Jeremiah, they were not being thrown. They were just being, it was almost like this, flicking them lungs or just tossing them. They weren't being, you know, mean or not. nothing like that. And he's going to, what the heck?

And here comes another one. Lands the back of his car, and he watches it bouncing the driveway there. And here comes another one. And so he shines these light up, and it scared him, Jeremiah, because there was not just two eyeballs reflecting back at him, but there were two pairs of them. And they was roughly, we ended up measuring it off the next day, uh, roughly, no, 85 feet back from the driveway and kind of up on the hill.

And he come running in the house and I hadn't gone to bed yet. And he said, dad, dad, something's throwing rocks at me. And I go, what do you mean throwing rocks? He said, something's throwing rocks at me. And I've seen eyes shining back. So I grab him an aught six that I keep. stashed in a corner just for uninvited guests. And I grabbed that and he had his little flashlight. We stepped out there and the porch light from the carport, I think is what was reflecting their eyes because it did.

It almost looked and illuminated. He said, right back there. And we had to step out to his car to see around this one bullpine. And sure enough, it looks like, and I'm exaggerating on the diameter, but it looks like two 557 board taillights, one on each side of the pine tree looking back at us, except they were, I'm going to guess, probably as big around as a pop can, probably, what, two and a quarter inch diameter, something like that. The two pairs were separated by another bull pine. It was about 25 foot tall.

Now, we could see the outline of the creatures. We couldn't make a definite, you know, I couldn't tell you what their faces looked like. We could only see an outline in the moonlight. And I did something that I really regret. I really do because they weren't being honoring. They weren't, you know, if they, If they wanted to kill that boy, all they would have had done,

which would probably take four or five steps, and he would have been lunch. And I really feel bad for what I'd done. But, Jeremiah, if I may say it, I was scared, boopolis, you might say? I was scared to death, and I threw that oxen up. I said, keep your light on it. It was just one of these little bitty pen lights that didn't shine much. And I wasn't going to kill them.

I just wanted them gone. I wanted them gone. You scared me, you done your deal, get out of here. And so I shot above each one's head, which happened so fast, and then I regretted it. But, yeah, they turned tail and run, and we could hear them. We could hear the ground thuds and that. And Jake, shut his hood, shut his car off, and we just went back in the house. And next morning, we went out there in broad daylight and took a tape major with us.

And I said, you stand over yonder behind your car. And I said, you remember where each one of them eyeballs was, right? And you go, yeah. And I said, I'm going to stand over here at the tape major. And you tell me where about was each set of eyeballs. So I went to the lowest side burst. And needless say, these pairs of eyeballs was about eight foot apart. One was standing on the bottom side of the tree.

The other one was standing on the upside. The one on the bottom side of the tree, we figured when he had me stopped the tape, we figured it to be nine and a half foot. The one on the upper side where the eyeballs was, because the eyeballs looked right straight across from each other. But there was a difference in altitude on that little hillside there. He could put apart kind of steep. And so we figured that the one that was standing on the top side was somewhere around 8 feet because of the lay of the land there.

But that was outside of the war I saw, there's three skunks hopping across the Hunter's Road there on the outside of Hunter's Pass. That was the, I guess you'd say, the second. visual encounter was that right there with them too and like I said Jeremiah I've had a lot of time to think about it and I've told my wife I don't know how many times I said I just I feel so bad because they weren't doing nothing wrong I think they was just having fun trying to get my boys attention say hey we're here how y'all doing you know and uh but I I regret shooting above their heads.

I really regret it because, like I said, they wasn't doing nothing wrong. So let's pass forward. And like I said, I know I'm missing a bunch here, Karamaya. But let's fast forward to just a few short months ago. It was first week of October. I'd already put my boat away for the winter time. That dang thing sunk. I'd traded it in, or I'd traded another boat in on my big one,

because my body's so destroyed a backpack and surgeries and everything that I couldn't even maintain it. So I took another boat in on trade on it and the thing sunk the first day out. But we retrieved it, got our all fixed backup. but my buddy has a 16-foot outboard, which you don't have to winterize them, but they're self-graining and that, and you keep to take them out and can't blow zero and go fishing.

Well, we decided to go over to the Columbia River, do some fishing. Well, we put in there at hunters. We used that boat launch. I'm not going to tell you all exactly where it was, but I'll say this. It's on the west side of the river. It's on the Corville Indian Reservation side, let's call it. We'd only been out about a half hour because we went ahead and sped across and got over to that side. And we'd already, we'd been stolen already for, I don't know, an hour or so, and then we'd

went up to this other little spot where there's a couple coves. And so we spun the boat around, and I was letting, I use lead line when I'm going deep. And we're about 125, maybe 150 foot off from shore. And we're back up in this hidden kind of cove area. And I was letting the lead line out. And I got, I think it was four or five colors let out. And I slammed the brake shut on it and put a cigarette in my lips and lit it and happened to glance up on the bank. Now, this bank area is virtually vertical because it's been eroded, you know, by the Columbia River.

And so you got a vertical bank. And it went up probably 35, 40 feet. and now mind you we're about 125 to 135 somewhere around there foot out from the bank and I happened to glance up on the top where the erosion area went on and continued uphill to a small ridge and then dropped off and went down on the other side which formed another ridge to go up

and I'd lit my cigarette. I'm looking up, and about that time I'd go, what is that? And about that time, the fishing partner saw where I was looking at and looked up there, and we just froze. We just froze. And I couldn't tell you how many said. It was just a matter of a few seconds. And it's really hard to describe,

because I couldn't believe what I was seeing at first. when we finally realized now mind you at this time both of our phones are laying in the seats and we were both so shocked that do you think we even thought about trying to get a picture of it?

No, our phones was last thing on our minds we're just staring at this thing and to describe it it was not quite, it wasn't a deep brown it was kind of a light brown. around completely hair covered.

I'm talking face and everything. And later on, my partner was talking and I chuckled. I said, I know what we saw. I said, that would cousin it off the Adams family. And he said, you know, he says, outside of cousin it had part of a neck. I think you're right.

And we're just trying to go, well, you know, hunting seasons here in a week or two. this is what they call no man's land on the the Calville tribe there ain't no houses I don't even think

there's been a road over there in 50 years and we're just going what could that have been because it actually it only took a few seconds when we look when my eyes had met it and his eyes had met it

this thing the whole body was like I was on a lazy Susan Now mind you, because it was standing on the other side of that small ridge, we couldn't see at least from halfway up to the hip. We couldn't see the bottom up. We couldn't see no legs or nothing. All we saw was probably the top, and I'm probably exaggerating it, the top two-thirds of it. We couldn't even see arms.

It was like, like I said, it was like looking at cousin it. But you could see the whole thing turned. And it made about four steps. And it was making those steps, it was actually going down because of that little ridge area. And then going down into a crevasse or whatever you want to call them, a mini-hauler, how's that? And it stopped. The body turned what we could see. I guess you'd call it the shoulder area.

turned back, looked, turned back around, and then disappeared, made its way into the timber land from that little area. But when we got home, Jeremiah, I even went online, I thought, could that have been a guy at a gilly suit? You know, because I've seen gilly suits, real expensive ones that kind of looked like that. but my partner and I couldn't figure out why by happenstance there would be a fella in a gilly suit in this area hidden from the main Columbia back in the co because there was we were the only truck and boat trailer in excuse me the parking lot that day we were the only one's And so it was midweek. And we're just wracking. Could it have been somebody in a gilly suit? And I'm going, man, I said, I don't think so.

Because I said, why would somebody be standing out there in a gilly suit? With the happenstance, some two idiots in a fishing boat just laughing to get back into this hidden hall or to drop their lines and troll. I said, no. I said, I don't think so. I said, I think it was the dang squash. And I said, it was broad daylight. It wasn't. Now, once again, yardage away from us.

We was that far out in the water. And like I said, I'm just going to, we'll use 135 feet away from the bank. It was in 70 foot water. where it was was right at, I'm going to say, $1,175 to 200 yards, Jeremiah.

So, no, we, we wasn't close and personal, but you could see that it was, well, you could see the color for sure. And it looked madded, you know, but what was weird was the fast that hair just covered its entire base. and it was a conical large head sitting on top of shoulders that it all just tapered down.

From the point of its head, clear out to what you'd call shoulders, it just tapered down. It wasn't like the Neanderthal one that folks see. And needless to say, I have suspected that there are. because I have, you know, I've been, you know, learning about these critters and that for decades. And I've heard so many different descriptions. I've heard of descriptions where they look like an ape. I've had descriptions where they look like a Neanderthal. I've had descriptions of just various types.

And I'd come to the conclusion that there are, maybe just different species of Sasquatch. And it was kind of confirmed because I was listening. I don't know if it was your podcast or another that I was listening to, but they had a civil engineer that worked with their Anatical Department. I mean, he actually worked with NASA. Oh, yeah. Mr. Cumbow probably is who you're talking about.

Is it the work where he decided that there was like three types? of Sasquatch. Yep, yep. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, brother. I'm thinking there's different types because you got ones that people swear up and down with a gorilla. Now, personally, and you know that picture of the red, orange thing down in Florida that they call a swamp ape?

Yeah. It's been around so many decades. If you ask me, that is an orangutan. That was escaped from one of them, Sues that was run down. And they are a place where they took the animals from circuses and that when they're getting all that. That just has, I mean, it looks like an orangutan to me. I mean, pure and simple. But now when you start talking about the critters that are getting up there, you know,

it's eight, nine foot tall. I have a different story. Absolutely. Yeah, I really, that fellow there, I really can't believe. I really can't believe that he was on to something when he come up with the three or four types of them critters. I myself now, when it comes to the dogman,

I think that's just a demon from hell, to be honest with you. I mean, there's nothing good about that. This is 100% nothing good about that guy. But I got a question for you about your sighting, if you don't mind. So after you saw that, what was your emotion?

state like for the rest of the day now the one where my my buddy and I was fishing yeah yeah I had no fear whatsoever I tell you what I was calm cool I was a cool egg kid man I was just calm cool and collected I wasn't one bit scared in fact after that and when it disappeared we actually real in our lines and pulled the boat back up the one cove and I'm looking for tracks because I said I got a funny hook you might have been down here getting some fishers from crawdads in one of these coves and that and we both boat up no I had absolutely no fear whatsoever unlike the ones that we've seen that the off our driveway and the one that ballard at me

which I never saw it did it it put the fear of God in me to be honest with Jeremiah the ones out here the I think the part that scared the crap out of me was the fact of how big the outlines were because these things were huge they were ginormous

they were huge Jeremiah and I think that's what scared me out there and like I said I felt I felt like the smallest man on God's green earth when I shot above their heads

and it was out of fear because of the size of them. I mean, good God, it'd be like standing next to a freight train, you know, just huge. My wife and I, well, see, like I said, I really should have been looking through my notes because I've missed about half of it. My beautiful wife and I was at the top of our property, and I was showing her where I'd cleaned up before we'd had a bunch of old cars and stuff set, and I wanted to get them out of here.

And I cleaned up this area, and she was showing me where she wanted me to put in a track for the four-wheeler for the grandkids. So we got three grandkids that lived with us. And, oh, that's another story, I'll tell you. They actually seen one. But anyway, we're up there. We just got out of the little pickup,

and we had started to walk towards the tree, a little bit and we got hollered at. Now, it wasn't as loud or as long as the one that got me back in 1990 down by the Beaver Dam. But it bellared and it was that that dumb elephant trunk of lion roar. And my beautiful wife looked at me and she said, I don't think we should be here. I said, yeah, let's go. And we got in the truck, come back down to the house.

But last summer, last summer. And I can't remember because we tried to spend our summers in the motorhome down at a very special place on the river. So we're not here a lot. But it had to have been, oh, shoot. it had to have been the last of June or the 1st of July. I honestly can't put my finger on it. But the two-year-old was in the house of grandma. And at that time, they were six or five and six, and now they're six and seven.

But I have a thin-skinned small front yard chain length dated, and they've been. got their swing sets and their yard toys and all sorts of fun stuff for kids out there. And it's attached right to our front covered deck. And that way, you know, no critters can get into them or nothing like that. You know, and I'm talking, you know, coyotes, cats, what have you, which we've got plenty of around here. But the, my granddaughter and grandson, start screaming and they thought they was going to rip the screen door off the front of the house

come in screaming that they saw Bigfoot, they saw Bigfoot. And I'm relaying this from what grandma and the kids told me. I didn't get home for, shoot, it was a couple hours later when I got home and they told me about it. but they had the two of them was in the point of yard on the trampoline and they was facing the neighbor's property which is 600, 550 foot away and they saw a bipedal and they just said he was running like every man dad or a hair covered man grandpa and it came out of

of the timber on that side, ran across the field here, and then into the timber on the north side. It didn't stop. It didn't slow down. It didn't look at them, they said. But my granddaughter actually drew a picture of it, and it kind of reminded me of the, by looking at it, it kind of reminded me of that Gimlin film and that.

but I knew I was forgetting something here. We have not been the only ones that had sightings during the day. This is an important one. We got neighbors that has a farm to the south of us. I can't tell their names. And since then, she was scared so bad that they ended up selling the farm and moving because she got so scared. one morning about 9 o'clock

she was vacuuming her living room and her floor started vibrating her husband told me this later on and it was like something taking big huge steps but it was vibrating the house and she reached over

shut the vacuumed off and just happened to glance off the window when all she could see was a huge left arm and part of a left thigh and leg area. The window didn't go high enough, and the thing was only about eight foot from her window,

so she couldn't see the head and she couldn't see the feet. But she saw like from the shoulders down to the knees, and then big, huge hands and arms swinging. It walked past their house. Now, I know she wasn't seeing things, because at that time my mother-in-law was living here with us and about nine o'clock that morning she was out on the porch sling having a cigarette and she was staring at the neighbor's pasture where they they keep talism at and she saw this when i got home she told me she said it was about nine o'clock and she saw a big huge brown creature come down, lower its head to get under the one tree that's in the middle of the neighbor's faster. And they keep that trimmed up seven and a half feet, by the way. She said,

this thing had to stoop over to clear it with its head. And she said, she only saw it for a few seconds because it was moving so fast, taking really long steps. And she said, it would just matter of a few seconds, and it disappeared into the tree. line and gone. And that night, my neighbor's husband had called me and said, but I got to come down and talk to you. And he came down and told me what his wife had seen and felt. And I said, and I won't say his name.

I said, well, she's not crazy. I says, my mother and all seen the same thing about the same time this morning, walking down through there. I said it lowered its head to make it under your tree. And we went up there to see if there was any. We drove up into his pasture up there to see if there is any footprints. There was actual no prints, but you could see where something would flatten the grass down and that. But, you know, like I was telling you earlier, this is hard playing clay around here.

And when it dries up, you can't put a pickax in it. Right. But yet, you know, in April and March, you can stomp on the ground. It's going to bubble up, you know, six, seven foot away from you. I mean, it did like a big old molo pudding. Hillbilly, what was the year that that happened again with your neighbor and your mother-in-law? I'm going to have to say that was around 2016. Okay.

Wow. Oh, my goodness. It scared her so bad. that they ended and they I'll tell you I didn't think these people would ever move

they spent thousands of hours and tens of thousands of dollars he was a carpenter per se and they he took an old run-down

farmhouse and he built the most beautiful I mean the most beautiful dollhouse out of it and his barns and everything. Okay, it's probably the most beautiful home out here. And they just turned her back on it and they sold it. They got a good price out of it.

Sure. And I still see him every now. In fact, I just ran into him a few days ago there in Deer Park, Washington. But they bought a farm. to the, what would that be? That would be the northwest of Deer Park. And I said, good Lord, neighbor, what would you think? And I said, they call that Bigfoot Valley.

Oh, really? There's a place there in Clayton, Washington. They call Bigfoot Valley. Because guess who's been seen out there back a few decades ago, you know? Wow. My goodness. They haven't had any visitors since then, or since they got rid of this place. He said, no, he said, he said that just, he says, and I won't say her name.

He said, she's never been the same. Oh, absolutely. I can't imagine. She was scared that bad. Hillbill, Bill, you have lived a incredible life when it comes to having to deal with strange encounters on your property and having that citing. Thank you so much for sharing what you've experienced. You know, my friend, I planned to be honest with you. There was a point in time in my life, I was, and it was for the wrong reasons, and I'm ashamed of it. But there was a point in time

in my life, and I think my boys were about 10, I was planning a hunting trip, if you know what I mean. Sure. I planned to kill one. And it was for all the wrong reasons. It was for monetary value. I was going to make my family rich. They could have any drag boat race car they wanted, you know. But it was after Cliff Brockman was talking about family units.

And all of a sudden, it was like somebody dumped a bucket. of hot water over me. And I did a 360. I mean, or 180, whatever you want to call it. I had a different change of attitude. I went,

no, my God, what was I thinking? Why would I? I said, that'd be like some, like them hunting me or my family. I said,

no, these are forest people. The Indians are all, they's correct. These are forest people. They've been here longer than any of us. As to what they are, I have my ideas, but even that I'm suspicious on. I just don't know, but I know this.

I don't want to mess with. I just want to leave them alone. If anything, I want to protect them. And I'm ashamed to myself forever, ever thinking of killing one or for even shooting over their heads because of my stupidity, being scared. I just, it's shame. and I'm sorry I ever done it. I'm sorry I ever thought about hunting one. Well, I think the important thing is you made the right choice

and you turned it, turned it around, as you said. And thank you so much for coming on the show. And we'll definitely have to keep in touch. It sounds like there could be other things going on around that area. But thank you so much for coming on, Hillary. Yeah, you got to remember, too, this area, area had a major, major, major, major fire go through here a few years back that went all the way from West End of the Spokane Indian Reservation, clear up to Chihuah. And I think it burnt one of the

main corridors for them because we just don't have as much activity as we used to, but we still do, if you know what I mean. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, thank you. again, sir, for chatting. We will definitely be in touch, sir. That sounds good, my brother. And take me, letting me tell this. Like I said, I was going to take most of it to my grave with me.

Have you ever heard all the accounts of Bigfoot activity around Oak Ridge, Oregon, and you think to yourself, man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what? This year, you can. If this is interesting to you,

stay tuned because it's pretty cool Sasquatch Summerfest is coming up July 10th through the 11th 2026. It's going to be even better than the previous years. Reason number one I'll be one of the speakers.

It's going to be wild. I'll probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else because let's just say sometimes it's well you just got to be there.

We'll leave it that. More about looking for Bigfoot in the Oak Ridge Woods. Now check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year, you can not only go to the festival, but you can also sign up for a trek deep in the wild forest outside of Oak Ridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign up for this. And yes, this will also be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series,

which is searching for Sasquatch. This is a once-in-lifetime deal. It's just, trust me, it's going to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest.com, and listeners can use the code BSP, like Bigfoot Society podcast, in order to get a two-day pass for the price of a one-day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so that you guys can get a little help with the cost there.

Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you at the booth in Oak Ridge this year. We can talk about your encounter. I was able to talk to so many people last year and the year before. it is an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it, and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch, or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain,

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