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Episode Date: March 9, 2026

Originally released on 8/21/24 as Episode 503In this episode, we delve into the extraordinary experiences of Tim Dills from Western North Carolina, a lifelong outdoorsman whose encounters span more than fifteen years across the rugged mountains of Macon County. Hunting deep within the vast forests surrounding Standing Indian, Rainbow Springs, and the North Carolina–Georgia border, Tim began noticing subtle signs that something was sharing the ridgelines with him.What started as unusual sounds and disturbances on a remote, gated property soon unfolded into repeated interactions—powerful vocalizations echoing through the hollows, rocks landing with precision, trees manipulated along active trails, and moments of unmistakable presence just beyond sight. Over time, those experiences led to multiple visual encounters, including a towering figure observed at close range and tracks measuring far beyond anything human.Tim describes intelligent behavior, coordinated movements in the forest, and a landscape that feels alive with awareness. He shares how years of returning to the same remote mountain terrain shaped his understanding of these beings and strengthened his conviction that they are deeply rooted in the Appalachian wilderness.Grounded, detailed, and reflective, Tim’s account offers a rare look into sustained activity in one North Carolina county. Join us as we explore his journey through the forests of Western North Carolina and the enduring mystery that continues to unfold there.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072

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All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Tim. He's a Bigfoot researcher from Western North Carolina. And how is it going today, Tim? I'm doing great, sir. How about you? Oh, man, I'm having a great day. Just got back from Oregon.

So kind of getting back into the swing of things. But I heard about you through our mutual friend, Mr. Harley-Owens, from down there in eastern Tennessee, Big Fort, nope, Bigfoot reports and data. And yeah, it's just a pleasure to meet you. And it sounds like you've got some really interesting things you've been involved with since about 2008. Yes, sir. Since 2008, I have had four sightings.

And I've had just tons, and I mean tons of interactions with them throughout the years, Most of my areas, I keep stuff going. Anything I see they do, I undo so that I can keep the interactions going. So, yeah, take us back to the beginning, how this all started for you and how you first realized that, yeah, there's something going on out here. Okay. The way it started is actually kind of funny. They was a guy moved in up above me.

His wife family has other land here in the county that I live in. and they had moved up from Florida. And I was actually outside skinning a deer. I'd been deer hunting, and I'm skinning my deer out, and this guy comes up, and he says, hey, my name's Nose from Corbord. I just moved down the hill up here, and I'll get back with you. I say, you like to hunt and fish. I like to hunt and fish, too.

I mean, just talking so fast, I couldn't hardly keep up with him. And he said, I'll see you in about two weeks. And he went back to his truck and took out. And my wife walked up and said, who in the world was at? And I said, well, I've got his name is Nuson Ford. He just moved in up here, and he likes to hunt and fish and sees that I do too. So he's going to give me a call in a couple of weeks and, you know, just see if we become friends or whatever, just hang out. So in about two weeks, just true to his word, he showed up.

And he said, let's go fishing. I said, okay, let's go. So we headed out and he was talking to me and talking about the property that they have up here. It's 86 acres surrounded all by National Forest and it is actually locked behind Forest Service gates. They are the only ones, them and the Forest Service are the only ones that have access to the gate. So he said it's going to be a good place for us to hunt. If you'll help me put out feeders and all that kind of stuff, he said, then we'll start hunting up there.

And I told him, I said, yeah, that'd be awesome. Just let me know when and what. So he told me, he said, the first thing we got to do is play a trick on my boys. And I said, okay, not really knowing what he meant. He said that they had snook a set of fallow deer horns out of the cabin into the front of his. trail cameras. And whenever they done that, they just stuck the horns around so you couldn't see nothing but the horns. And he seen that picture. And he was like, that was actually back when trail can's had the 35 millimeter cameras in him. And so he went and got it developed. And the first thing

he sees is that deer. And he said, told his wife, said, I've got to get in the woods. These things ain't common around here. He said, I ain't a coming out of the woods that'll do. And she said, did you look at any other pictures? He said, no, I ain't got time. And he was throwing banyweeys and bayonies and all that crackers and stuff. And the buggy hit getting ready to go sit on the deer stand that evening. And she finally got him talked into going and looking at the other pictures.

And the very next one is his boy, both of his boys and their friends holding those deer horns. And he told me, he said, so we have got to pay them back. And I told him, I said, all right, for some reason I remembered this at the time I hadn't thought about it in years. But I told him back in the 70s, my dad that one of his friends was hunting, and they come across some tracks in the snow that was barefooted. My dad's friend is about probably six, five, six, six years, wears a size 13 shoe, and it was bigger than it. his shoe and in one of the locations in this county called Standing Indian. It's a big campground in the National Forest and all of that. And they had seen that track back in the 70s and I told notion about it. And I told him, I said, I tell you what we'll do. I'll make a set of those

tracks. And whenever I get those made, we'll go up there, we'll put some tracks out and we'll just have some fun with them. He said, yeah, that'll work. So we did. We went up there and put tracks down in the mud and broke a few limbs and stuff like that. And honest to goodness, I never would have thought of a big foot around here. If they truly was something, I figured they'd be out west somewhere. And so we've done real good and made up some stuff for them to find. and now his boys that was in their mid-20s,

so, you know, it's not like little kids or nothing. But he said, I'll come up with them tomorrow, and we'll go with them and see what they think. And I told him, I said, you'll have to go by yourself because I'll go, I'll get tickled. I can't, I can't, I can't have myself that good. And so I stayed at the house, and he went up, and they walked right by the tracks to start with,

and he told him, he said, no, you ain't getting me again. I see this trackings made. And they said, walk, track. And he said, this one right here. And when they seemed it, they just freaked out. Oh, Lord, Daddy, we've got Bigfoot's on the property. We're going to have to get over a trail cam we can buy and get in the woods and get pictures of them.

That'll be worth a lot of money. And they just took it hook, line, and sinker. And so they had a band at the time, and they had to play that night. And they was actually going to cancel their gig and get in the woods. And Newton told them, said, no, you've got to honor your word. So they went on to their gig. And while they was at the gig, Newsom was with them, of course. So I snuck up there and messed things up on the porch, turned chairs over and throw clothes on top of the house and all of this stuff.

And whenever they got home about 2 o'clock in the morning, they called their dad and told him, said, that thing's been back up here while we was gone. So the joke went over real big. And the next day, they finally figured out it was us. So everybody got a good life out of it. And men, Newsom started putting feeders out and that kind of stuff. And there was a hog of the root in his yard up. So we got up in the top of the loft of his little cabin

and waited on them for it to come out. one evening and the spot where it's had has got creek and laurel bushes real heavy around it. And they was three raccoons come out of the laurel bushes and out into the yard. And they fed around there in the yard for a few minutes and then turned around and run back in to the bushes. And when they did, one of them grabbed one of the raccoons at the time. We didn't know what it was, but it grabbed one of the raccoons and started killing it. And I don't know if your listeners know what that sound is like, but it's a terrible sound.

And the couldn't quit squalling, and all of a sudden you just heard a big, and everything went dead quiet. And I looked at him and I told him, I said, buddy, boy, I know every animal in these woods. I have seen Black Panthers. I have seen the Red Wolf that we have that they turned back in the 50s, turned out in the 50s. I said, I have seen all of that. And this one I can't explain. Number one, it wasn't a dog because there was no barking.

Whatever jumped on that coon, you know, a big-sized coon puts up a pretty good fight. So I knew it wasn't a dog and I knew it wasn't somebody and I knew it wasn't a bear because the roar that it does, a bear don't make that kind of roar. They're just more, they just actually just more huff than anything. And we was sitting there and talking real quiet about what it could be, and then it started whistling.

And I told him, I said, but boy, I do not know what this is. I said the sound that it made, I don't know. and for it to start whistling and after that I definitely don't know what it was and it would whistle every few seconds and about ever 10 to 15 seconds I'd say and we decided we'd go outside and see what we could see

and when we turned the lights on in the top loft of the cabin it quit whistling and we went outside and never heard it no more and never thought that much about it and from then on things started happening the more that we was up the more things would happen we would put up put up feeders cut trails through the woods that we wanted to deer where we wanted to deer hunt would make us a trail and

and we would come back and brush would be piled up on on the trails going to our deer stand our feeders would be messed with the trail cameras would be messed with that kind of stuff So we started paying a little bit more attention to what was actually going on. And, you know, we started to realize that these limbs and stuff that have been carried in, they've been rung off. They've not been broke by-bayer, nothing like that. They've not been chewed on or anything like that. They had actually been just like somebody had took their hands and ripped them off the trees. and the more, like I was saying,

the more we was up, the more stuff that we had happened, we was putting one of the feeders up, and I'm holding the ladder for him, and a rock hits behind me, and it's in the middle of winter, so we know there's no acres falling, nothing like that,

nothing else it could have been. And I asked him, I said, did you drop something? And he said, no. I said, I think I heard something hit behind me, and he said, yeah, I did too. And so we started just, you know, just being a little more cautious and looking around. We never did see anything. We went back up to that same feeder a few days later and was going to fill it back up.

And we started putting the corn in it and one yelled. And it done the lawn, drawled out, yell like Bobo does on finding big feet. put that big long draw. And it was so loud that it just made your whole body shake. And when it started, we thought it was actually an airplane coming across the ridge real low because the Forest Service had been doing some mapping for logging areas and stuff. But when it tapered off, we could tell it wasn't but about 50 to 70 yards above us. and that was the first other than the growl, the roar that it did when it got to Coon,

that was the first vocalization that we heard. And it really got our attention, you know, we didn't slow down of what we was doing, but we started paying a lot more attention, taking pictures of stuff that was happening and that kind of stuff. and that went on for years. I mean, every time we would go up there, we would have some kind of interaction, whether we was getting yelled at

or stuff being placed in our trails going to our deer stands. And like I said, messing with the feeders and the trail cameras. And I was up there one evening, and me and Newsom was a deer hunting. And I'm sitting there, and I hear two people, what I thought was people at the beginning, start talking. And I could understand everything they said, except the language.

It was a language I'd never heard of. And I texted Newsom that was on a Tuesday evening. And I texted him, and I told him, I said, I hear somebody on your property. I said, I can tell that there's two of them, but what they're saying don't make any sense. I've never heard that language before. And I have got Native American Cherokee in my family, so I have actually heard their language. And honestly, was a lot like Native American language,

but with monkey gibbers thrown in, you know, grunts and that kind of stuff and squeats and everything. So he told me, he said, well, sit still until it gets dark. because whoever it is will have to turn their lights on to get out. Well, we set to way after dark, and no lights ever come on. So we just decided to leave. And then we was back in there on Thursday of the same week, and it happened again. And all of this is happening.

So we're starting to put the puzzle together that there's actually something up there, especially once we heard the big loan drawback yell that it does or how, whatever you want to call it. I'd actually heard Bobo do that on finding Bigfoot. And when I heard dad, I thought, well, that's exactly what Bobo does. And I told my buddy, I said, you may have some bigfoot's up here. And he was like, you reckon? I said, well, things is sort of adding up that way. Wellness looks different at every state. The right support makes all the difference. Take up your routine with vital proteins collagen peptides. With 20 grams of collagen sourced from grass-fed,

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The painful, blistering rash disrupted my life for weeks. Don't learn about your shingles risk the hard way. Talk to your doctor or pharmacist today, sponsored by GSK. And after for about two and a half years, every time we would go in, they was either throwing stuff or putting stuff in our trails. my buddy passed away and I lost rights to go on to the property. But until we quit going on his property, we were still getting stuff put in our trails. I mean, tops of pine trees broke out and drove into the ground.

Big bushes and trees broke over the trail. The yelling and rock throwing and stuff. stopped after about two years, but messing with our trails and their cameras and stuff, that continued up until he got sick in, I think it was 2020. Tim, I definitely have a few questions for you. This is, I mean, a really incredible area, it sounds like, and I'm sorry that you lost your friend as well. That's just extremely sad to hear that he has passed.

Um, there's probably a question that a few listeners are thinking. So I'm going to ask it. Um, yes, sir. What was it that? Did you ever have the thought when this first started that, oh, is this just the, is this just a retaliation prank? Or what was it that made you think, okay, this is real and not just the boys trying to prank us back after we got them back? One thing was the boys was still living in Florida. They was on their own. And they was traveling with the band around all over Florida and Tennessee. And was it up here when things was happening?

That was one of the first things is that we, before we had our trail cameras, the bulls knew about. But you would walk right by them without ever seeing them. So we knew they wasn't nobody. coming on his properties. Not only did we have truck cameras in the woods, but we also had them on the driveway coming up in case people wanted to come in trespassing and that kind of stuff. But the way that we knew it wasn't, his voice, is that they was not even in the state at the time when most of this was going on.

That makes a lot of sense. Were there ever any, did you ever have any visuals on the property of the property of, of the creatures at all? No. Not on this property, I didn't. I have seen in. But you would sort of have to see the layout of the property. It's actually laying at the mouth of where two little valleys come down and just one little flat spot.

I mean, it was about the only place you could build a house. And the rest of it is high mountain ridges. and it is absolutely full of laurel bushes, rodendron, we call them laurel bushes around here. But just the lay of the land, what I have learned since then is it's hard to get above them. They're always going to have the high ground. And on his property, they seem to stay right on the ridge right behind his house so that whenever we come in, they would know we was there

as soon as we pulled into the driveway. Did you ever, were you able to ever get any audio recorded on the property? Not there. And that's one thing I kicked myself about. I was just documenting stuff on my phone. I wasn't really into research that I would document stuff, you know, like footprints and whatever. break the limbs over and and that kind of stuff.

But I never really got into the documentation and audio recording and all of that stuff until I met the guys that I'm in a group with now called Dirty South Squawking. And they got me to taught me how to build recorders. Our audio recorders will record 24 hours a day. for two weeks and then we have to go in and change them and so they have got me got me in on learning how to do that and I have got a lot better at it but I'm also a lot of the times that I'm in the woods I am actually deer hunting hog hunting that kind of stuff so I ain't always got one of our pros on me and all of that stuff because it just gets too much to carry but we do have certain research areas that have high activity, and that is where we do most of our

research in that now. Do you feel like you ever had any communication with the creatures on that property back and forth? I do. I honestly think that they had come to accept us. Me and my dad was up there, bow hunting, and it was getting. that time of evening for deer and stuff to start moving. And this was in 2016, back when it was a drive that we had all the wildfires.

And I actually, this is one of the few times I have ever heard one come in around me. But at first I thought it was deer. And it's in November, so all the acorns and hickorynuts and all that stuff's off the trees. and there's rock lands about 50 yards out from me and I felt comfortable enough and been around them enough to know that they wasn't going to hurt me or if they was they could have done it years ago so I thought well I'm just going to sit here and see

how close they'll throw the rocks and the next one he had about 35 40 yards from me and then about 20 yards and then about 10 yards and then the next one landed about a foot and a half from my foot. And I thought, well, it's definitely time to go. And I'd called my dad and told him, I said, well, they're up here throwing rocks at me. It's time to go.

And he told me he had never heard him do the whistle. And he was telling me where he was at, we took an old portage on and made a blind out of it. and but he hunted up closer to the feeder and he told me he said there was something down at the cordage on blind and it would whistle once and something straight above me between me and you it would whistle twice and evidently what it had done was the second one that was done the two whistles it circled in around above me and when it was time to go they just let me know i know it's sort of hard to figure out, but I honestly felt like that they was used to us and knew that we wasn't a threat.

And when they didn't want us around, instead of being aggressive or anything like that, they would just suddenly, you know, let us know. Usually rocks being thrown or a stick thrown through the wood, top of the trees or something like that. Did you ever try whistling back? I do. And that is actually, when I was talking about, about the Newsom being on the ladder putting the figure up, I had actually been standing there doing the whistle.

And it probably wasn't five minutes after being up there that it threw the rocking behind us. And for some reason, and I don't know why I do it, but it has been stuck in my head. And I'll find myself just walking through the grocery store, Walmart or wherever, and I'll be doing that whistle. and I honestly don't know why, but it's just something that is stuck with me, and I actually do it when I'm in the woods and won't even realize I'm even doing it. Is that something where you could do that right now, maybe not directly into the phone, but to the side, it would be interesting to hear what it sounded like?

Yeah, let me get a sip of watering. Oh, sure. If I can do it. Sorry to put you on the spot. Oh, that's okay. It's just a single note. It just goes, that wasn't very loud. Oh, really?

Oh, boy, that sounds familiar. Yes, sir. I've heard something similar in Oregon. Yeah. And we had, there's a communication going back and forth, and it was the most, it was the most interesting slash horse, horrifying thing I've ever seen, just that communication between one of our group and whatever it was just in the tree line.

Man, that sounds familiar, dude. Wow. Well, I'm glad that you recognized it. That way they know I'm not just making something up. No, you're not. You're absolutely not, Tim. Wow. It sounds, before we move on from this area, so it sounds like this area was sold after, sold to someone else. No, once he died, his daughter got married and the son-in-law started keeping things up up there. So I only went up there because of him being friends and doing stuff together. And there was really no reason for me to go back up there because his son-in-law took over and was a lot younger than both of us. So I helped him, you know, we was always bowing and just keeping the place up. And once the son-in-law took over that, so there's really been no reason for me to go back up there.

It would be interesting to know if that son-in-law is having issues happen or things happen on that property. I would guess it didn't just go away, but you never know. No, and I've talked to him, and he still gets. It's that creaked out feeling. Yeah. When goes up there like something's watching him and that kind of stuff. And one of my research areas is actually just across the ridge from his property. And we have, that is where I saw my second one.

And we get a lot of audio and that kind of stuff from that area, like I say, which is just across the ridge from Newsom's family's property. If it wasn't such a big ridge and it was just a straight line, I would say it wouldn't be not even half a mile. Oh, okay. So I see what you did. So if you can't get in that area, just make a research area relatively close to it,

and it's probably the same Bigfoot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. That's smart. Can you walk us through what kind of things you experienced over in that area? And it sounds like you had some actual visual sightings over there. Yes, sir.

That area, I was actually, that was actually one of my main hunting places. And then once I started learning the signs that they leave, I started recognizing it in that area. And that is when I met Bob Trent and Dwight Campbell there. the two founders of Dirty South Squathing. And Dwight come up and went with me and we started putting audio recorders in there. And we've got a lot of good stuff out of our one. And this is, it's on the subject, but it's one of them things that we still ain't figured out. On our audio recorder at about 2.30 in the morning, you hear what sounds like two hammerheads hitting together.

and this place is about a mile and a half back into the woods. So that's one weird thing that we've never figured out what in the world that was. But we have got good audio. We actually have them walking up and sniffing and smelling the recorder, throwing rocks at the recorder. I'm pretty sure it was rocks. It could have been acres, but the time of year they're probably eating the acorns instead of, instead of throwing them.

I also in that area, we, it's where, like I was saying, I saw my second one. We were walking in one day to change all of our audio recorders out in our trail cams. And we smelled one,

and just so people know they don't smell all the time, they can do it just like a skunk does. And the reason that we know this on multiple times, we've had them up windows and you will smell them and then they'll follow right along with you and you'll hear them right up above you and the wind's not changed directions but you don't smell them so they do not smell all the time but we actually smelt that one and we're standing

there talking about it it was in an old growed-up clear-cut and everything was quiet they what, no birds making no noise or nothing. And we're standing there talking about smelling that. And I seen something moving the clear cut. And I told my buddy Dwight, I said, there's something moving in that clear cut. So we stood there and talked a little while longer. And I've seen it move again. When energy dips, your reviving routine deserves more than a quick fix.

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And I told him, I said, there's definitely something moving in that clearcut and I showed him words, so he took his camera

and zoomed in and they was one behind a big Burma dirt with nothing just his head over top and it actually

had a big green leaf across its forehead you can see in the picture across its forehead and you can see its eye socket's the bridge of its nose sticking out and the comical shake to its head so that was the second one that I had ever seen and that one followed us all the way in there and back out that day and like I said about a mile and a half in there and a mile of a half back out so you saw it through the camera. Did you actually see it move as well?

I seen it move. That's what got us to, got him to take the camera and zoom in. Okay. It was so thick that it was hard to see with the naked eye, but when he zoomed in with his camera and done just a panoramic video, you could see it.

Wow. And you could see it moving as well during that time when it was zoomed in? Yeah. Wow. Is that, are those available to see anywhere? Is that private research stuff? No, they should be.

They've been posted on our, well, actually, I'll tell you, on YouTube, if you go to White Campbell on YouTube, you can find the video on there. The name of it is a deer flush and a Bigfoot or something like that. Okay. I meant a Deer flush on it and Bigfoot on it. I don't remember the very exact topic, but that's close to what it is. Gotcha. I will have to check that out later.

I did find the video. I'll make sure it's linked in the show notes for this so people can check it out. And also in this area, I went in one morning, bow hunting, and I got up to where I said that, and I actually sat close to where our recorder, audio recorder is. and I just, it was that time of morning where I could just start walking without a flashlight. It was daylight enough to where I could see about 30, 40 yards ahead of me, you know, good. And I'm standing there and I take my crossbow off of my shoulder and lean it against the tree and get ready. And when I hunt, I hunt on the ground.

I don't hunt out of a tree stand, I sat. I sat on the ground. And so I took that, the crossbow off and set it down and was getting ready to take my backpack off. And there was a door run down the hill, and I knew something wasn't right because her eyes was real big, and her mouth wide open like she's being chased. And when she seen me, she stopped and looked at me for just a few seconds, and then turned around and run back up the hill. she ran probably 60, 70 yards up the hill and stops and is looking up the hill and turns around and runs back down to me.

Does that about six or seven times, just running from me up, from me back up. And then she finally stopped about halfway, which was out of Bow Range. So I'm just sitting there watching her. And she's looking at me and looking up the hill like she don't know what to do. and I'm thinking, well, what's wrong with this crazy thing is the first thing that I thought. And I just kept watching her, and she finally eased out of the side off over the side of the ridge that I was on.

And in about an hour after that, maybe an hour and a high, two of them come through the tops of the clear cut, and they started hollering at me. And honest to goodness, I know it sounds funny, but it sounded like they was cussing me. out. And you could tell that there was two of them doing that. And I honestly think what I had done was I was walked into where the deer was supposed

to run to and the other one was supposed to be watching for it. But when I come in, it had to go hide. And that sort of messed their deer drive up. The ones that were yelling at you, were you able to actually visually see them at that time? Or just you could tell they were there because the yells were in that area? I could just tell they was there. They was probably 200 yards from me going around, back around the top of the mountain, towards Newsom's side of the ridge.

Have you had multiple visual sightings in that area? Or was it the main one? No, that's the only one that I've had in that area. And we still have audio recorders and trial cams going in that area. Have you, this is kind of maybe out of the ordinary questions here. Oh, that's okay. Yeah, yeah. And have there, has there ever been any, have you ever heard anything in your mind

or has going into the areas affected your dreams afterwards? No, not. I've never, I've heard people talk about mind speak or whatever you want to. Right. But I've never, I've never witnessed that. I keep telling people, and I'm not making fun of people that do, but I just tell them I must be on the wrong signal or something, because I've heard anything like that, you know. That area for over, well, it's about almost a year to the date,

But that area I could not go into. I would get up there and it was just a thing of dread, just like, do not go in here. I've had that happen a couple of times. And one time it kept me from walking into a down parline one morning hunting. If I hadn't listened to it, I would have walked directly into a live power line that had the, the top of the pole had broke off and it had come down, but it hadn't went low enough to touch the ground. And I'm a little over six feet tall,

so I would have walked straight into it if I hadn't had to heated that morning. So ever since then, I listened to it. And for a year, I could not go into that area. And it left just as soon as it started. I do not know if maybe there was, one in there that had maybe been hurt that was a threat or one that's maybe been run off and was aggressive or what, I don't know, but I do know for, and that's the only place that I've ever felt that way about. But it was at least a solid year before I could go in there.

So just to clarify, during that time, you were just having a really bad feeling not to go into that area? Were you actually hearing something that said, don't go in here? No. It was actually just that gut feeling. Yep. Like, I don't, and it would almost bring fear upon me, not that, you know, just whatever you do, do not go into this area. There's other places around it that I hunted, maybe a half, three-quarter miles away. I had no problem going those places, but it was just this one particular area. Has there ever been a time where you're out there doing, you know, Bigfoot-related research and just things have gotten very intense in a way that you're like, you know, we should

really get out of here right now? I've had some intense times. We have actually been bluff charged. this was in another area. In the county that I live in, I have had encounters in five different places throughout the county. So I know there's no way that that one group of them can be running from one spot to the other spot to the other spot.

So there has to be at least five groups of them here in the county. And I was taken Dwight and a lady named Robert. moonshadow. She had come down from Canada to go with us. And we were, I took them to a place called Scaly Mountain that's on the North Carolina, Georgia border. And back there, we went in the winter, we went in February, but back before that in October, November, we were fixing a place from my dad to deer hunt. And when we come back around through the pine ticket, you could where one had reached up and grabbed the hold of a tree and pulled the bark off of it. You could see where the thumb wrapped around the tree and where the other four fingers,

you know, you could see all of that clear. And I was taking Dwight and Robin up there to show them. And when you pull up, you go behind the Forest Service gate and go out a little road, maybe 150 yards. And then you go out an old logging road to you lay up. well, we've seen some structures on the right-hand side, so we dropped off that side and all of those tip pictures and all of that stuff. And we come back and going to go around the road to where the pine tree was that had been clawed on. And we hear something up on top of the ridge, just start pitching the feet.

Even the stuff up at Newsombed I'd never heard anything like this. and it come and just kept out of sight enough to where that we couldn't see it, but we definitely heard it, and it got between us and our vehicles. And that is the only time that I've ever put my hand on my pistol. I always carry one because you never know with rabid coons and foxes and wildhogs and that kind of stuff. So I always carry it for backup.

I don't think I'd ever have to use it on a big foot, but it's more for the other animals. But anyway, it got in between us and our vehicle, and it was done a sound that if you look it up, because once I heard it, I actually went and looked up a silver-backed gorilla bluff charge, and it's just a go-go-go-go-go-go-gag-gag-gat-g like that, except it is so loud. And, I mean, you feel it, it was so loud. and we just stood there. We have learned, don't run, because it's like a cat in the mouse. If you play dead or we act like we just don't hear them.

And we let them do their stuff and go on. You know, if the mouse plays dead, the cat loses interest. And so we just didn't let her do her thing. And then she moved on and we went ahead and I went out. showed them the tree and we dropped off down where she went through and we found some small tracks in there that might have been five inches long, six at the most. So more than likely she had the, and we also found the nest down there, so more than likely she had a small one down in the nest where she could watch it from the top of that ridge.

when we started in between her and the little one, she come off and got it and moved on. I mean, that could have been an extremely dangerous situation. I mean, just think of what happens with a normal animal in the wild, and then if you're to, if you, by mistake, mess with the younger animal. I mean, the female mother animals can get very, very intense, and they could, you know, I mean, in this situation, you could easily be taken. out but there's a bluff charge so if i continue down the road that i'm going there's a high likelihood that i'll probably get into one of those situations myself one day with a bluff charge that must be a really intense situation where uh internally are you have is there a struggle where you're like

just run your body's like saying just run but you have to mentally say don't go anywhere is that is there back and forth going on in that situation or No, and I don't know if it's because I've been in the woods so much, just like a black bear. You don't want to run from them. You stand your ground and try to look bigger. And for some reason, it never entered my mind to run. And I was confident that if we just stood still, that she would be wrong, you know, because if they really wanted to hurt us, like I said before,

there's been probably hundreds, if not thousands of times they could have done something to us and we'd never seen it coming. And so I was pretty confident if we just stood still and let her do whatever it was that she wanted to do and let it move on, then we would probably be okay. Gotcha. Do you ever leave, are there gifting situations that are going on, this area or is that something that you stay away from? I actually stay away from it, especially

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patrocineate for GSK. And I've left that. I have left, if you look in the grocery store or Walmart, you'll see the tubs of chewing gum of like juicy fruit, that kind of stuff. And I have actually left one of those. I took all the papers off of it because I don't want to litter. But I left just one piece of gun.

in it and it got to missing. The last time that we was in our research area up there, I left a, it looked like a plastic yellow crayon. And we honestly think we found what we called a play area up there. So I left that on top of one of the trees that they had carried in and leaned over. We're going back this Saturday to check it. So hopefully we can see if they have got it or not. But I do not ever put food out because just like buyers, I don't want them to associate people with food. All my places that I do this is on public land. And I don't want me to have been carrying food in there and them get to expect when they see people to expect food

and then somebody goes in without any, and they get aggressive and I don't think somebody would get hurt, but I think that it might scare them enough to where they wanted to hurt the big foot, you know, maybe take a shot at them or something like that. So I stay away from the food. I mean, it may work. I've got a good friend of mine that has done it, and he would take in, go in and leave moon pies and that kind of stuff

and ring a bell. And they would come in after he ran that bill and get his moon pies and stuff. But I just don't want to do that on public land. Well, it sounds like what your friend is doing is he's setting up a Pavlovian response, which is, you know, the famous experiment with the, I believe it's a dog in the bell, in the food. And, I mean, yeah, yeah, there's probably a different way, a few different ways to look at that, but that's pretty incredible that he set it up that, I mean, he just has to ring a bell and literally the big foot come running. That's wild.

And he's actually got videos and stuff that he's been offered $10,000 to put out. And he won't do it because he don't want, number one, he don't want them bothered. You know what I mean? He's a, he's a, he's like, if we start putting stuff like this out, then everybody and their cousins going to run into the woods of thinking that they can put moon pies in the dinner bell. And if people get hurt, that's one thing, but he don't want them to get hurt either. I'm guessing this is a gentleman who's kind of staying under the wire,

probably not a big presence online, stuff like that. Yeah. I can give you his name. His name is Doug Teague. He was actually on the show. If I ain't mistaken, the evidence is out there. And it actually shows one up on the hill. Of course, the ones that were supposed to be experts on the show,

oh, that's probably somebody in a suit or something like this. And if it is, then they're bigger than Herman Munster is, all I can say. Right. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's a classic show right there. Ever since that he put that out, and you know, he, you can tell if you've spent any time in the woods and I've seen them, you could tell definitely that it was one watching him. His dog got quiet, and they was like, well, if it was a true big foot, that dog would go crazy.

Actually, dogs will tuck their tail under them and run. I mean, the biggest, baddest dogs that they're all. or the Belgian Malawals. I've got a buddy that is a police officer. And he drove down the road one evening and got out to let the dog use the bathroom. And he done a whistle. And one whistle back. And when that thing whistled, he said his dog like to have clawed the side of the car

trying to get back into his police car. Oh, wow. So Doug, he just, after that, he just sort of keeps. to himself and he'll give, you know, keeps us up to date and that kind of stuff, but he just sort of quit putting anything out because he didn't want to have to put up with all the ridicule. Absolutely. I've been looking at a map of the different areas that you've mentioned. It looks like it's kind of down where North Carolina and Georgia and South Carolina meet, that kind of area.

Yeah. And it's definitely, there's some big national forest down there. It's south of the Smoky Mountains National Park, but it's just, man, it's just forest and forest and forest down there. I can, on our research area and standing Indian, I can take you up there and that you see how vast it is. There's probably places there that nobody's ever been. Wow. I mean, that's how big the, just the woods are here. Another place that you can look on your map is around Rainbow Springs, which is near

Nana Hala Lake. That was where I saw my very first one there. That is also an area that, I was just going to say that's also an area of where I've been yelled at and where I saw my very first one. Would you be able to share about what happened the first time that you were able to see one? Oh, yes, sir. I was in there boat hunting, and I was just minding my own business, not really thinking anything about it. I knew that what was going on over at Newfams and that kind of stuff,

but I didn't think nothing about it up there. And I was just walking up the ridge. I was going to get on the very tip-top. of the ridge and sat close to a clear cut and deer hunt and I was walking up through there and all a sudden about maybe 10 yards in front of me it come out from behind a tree and it run probably I'd say maybe 10, another 10 yards on two feet and then it dropped down to all fours and it got out of there quick. I mean, it covered 150,

170 yards in no time. I mean, by the time I looked at it, and I thought, well, I seen what it was, and then it dropped down, and I hadn't ever seen them run that face. So I didn't know. So I looked back to say if there's another one or anything, and when I turned around, it was already gone.

When it was running on all fours, have you seen any other creature that runs like that on all fours? Was it similar to anything else? To be honest with you, it looked like a hyaena. And the reason I say that is the front end, its arms was much longer than its back legs, that it had the position of like a hyaena. But it runs the best I could tell, and the best I remember, it would put its two front hands down and then bring its back feet up just like a dog or a deer or anything, you know, like that runs. It put its front legs out and then push off with its back legs.

And like I said, it covered some distance real quick. That must have been a sight to see you for sure. Did you, go ahead. I'm sorry. I was just going to say it was, especially when you're just now grasping what's going on in another part of the county, not even really thinking that anything is going on anywhere else in the county. I thought it was crazy that they was in one part of my buddy's property. But then as I've done more region, found more areas, I found out that there's quite a few of them.

But that first one after my buddy's property, I was like, that is, you know, it just flows you for a minute because then it gets you wondering, well, I wonder how many of these creatures they actually are in this county. And is this in Macon County? Yes, sir. It is. So did you get a pretty good look at the head of the creature when you had that visual? Just it happened so fast. It come out and it had the side of its head. You know, it wasn't looking at me.

When it come out, it was looking straight ahead and it happened so fast. Honestly, it took me by surprise. I didn't get that good of a look because in my mind it was registered like, What in the world do I look at? Understood. So probably not able. I mean, details like the shape of the head or if there was a neck to it at all? I can tell you there wasn't no neck because I seen that.

Once it dropped down and was running, it looked like its head just sat on its shoulders. When it was running, were you able to see the bottoms of the feet at all? No, sure, because I was trying to look. at its body, the shape, and the cell. Anything interesting about the color of it or the hair length or anything that you'd noticed? It was, I would say, charcoal, gray, maybe black. It was dark colored. Were you able to notice anything underneath the hair at all?

No, sir, like I said, the whole thing probably didn't last. maybe 10, 15 seconds, and it was gone. Yep, absolutely. Wow. Now, the one that I, well, since we're talking about Rainbow Springs, me and my dad was in there, not this past turkey season, but the year before in 2003. And it was real cold that morning.

And I had put an extra coat under my clothes and was in there, turkey hunting and didn't hear nothing, so I decided to hit my woodpecker call. A lot of times we'll get a response from turkeys out of that, so I hid it, and maybe a hundred yards below me, a coyote started, and I thought, well, just come on up here and I'll get rid of you. And as soon as that coyote hushed, a big foot holler from the same area. and I was trying to grab my phone out of my pocket to get it recorded and it quit. It probably lasted maybe five, ten seconds.

And just so people realized what I got on, I've got on my turkey vest plus a light jacket, plus a long-sleevee shirt and a T-shirt, and I'm trying to get through all of that. And once it quit, I thought, well, don't go on. and it done it again. So again, I tried to get my phone out and still couldn't. And when it stopped that time, I thought, well, that's probably definitely the end of it. But it wound up hollering four different times. And my dad was a good three-quarters of a mile, a mile away from me.

And when we got back to the truck, I got there before he did. He come out and was walking down the road to me. He said, did you hear that hotter this morning? And I said, yeah. I said, it was right in under me. He said, is that what I think it was? And I told him, I said, yeah, it was definitely one of them. And he said, man, alive.

He said, it just decoed out through where he was at. But that's the two encounters I've had in that area. Absolutely. Just fascinating stuff from this one county. It seems like it's got a lot going on. When I talk to Harley, I've talked to Harley a few times, and I've talked to other individuals from his area. And something that I notice is that there is definitely seems to be some sort of government influence, and there are unmarked cars seen and just other related things.

Have you ever picked up on any out of the ordinary, you know, cars around when you're going out to look for Bigfoot or any weird government? with any of your Bigfoot research down there? I had my computer to crash. I had went to a meetup in Alabama and met a guy named Bo. And that's just his nickname. And he asked me, he said, have they been to see you yet? And I said, who? He said, the men.

And I said, no, I ain't saying nobody. He said, well, as much as you're putting out, they will. and I just never, I thought, no, they ain't, you know what, I ain't that big of a person for them to be looking for anything I'm doing. But I started a TikTok account and finally got enough followers to where I could do a live show. And I told them, told them on there, I gave them the date that I was going to do it and everything. and so my son come over and was going to help me with it. He's going to read their questions and that stuff. And he gets over here.

And I'd use my laptop the day before and everything was working fine. So we start trying to pull it up and my laptop does nothing but sit there and spin. The little icon on it is just sitting there spinning. And finally it gets time for us to do the live show. so we have to do it off our cell phone. And I took my computer to the computer place here in town, and he told me, he said, your hard drive's been fried. And I'm like, what?

He said, yes, said, you lost everything on it. And that was everything that I had collected from 2008 all the way up. I'm thinking that was in 2000, end of 2002, 2022, 2023. Wellness looks different at every stage. The right support makes all the difference. Elevate daily wellness with vital proteins advanced collagen plus colostrum and prebiotic fiber. This three-in-one blend supports radiant skin, gut help, and immune system wellness,

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the doctor or pharmaceutical. Patrocineated for GESK. somewhere around in there. And he said everything on it's gone and said there's nothing that we can save off of it. And I told him, I said, well, that's okay because I back everything up on the thumb drive. And so he went ahead and put a new everything in my computer because there wasn't nothing working.

New hardboard, hard drive, all motherboard, all that stuff. And I get home and I thought, well, I'll download my pictures off my thumb drive. I get it out, plug it into my pictures, and right there's all the folders. When I keep my evidence, I keep it logged by the year and the location that it comes from. That way, when I want to go back and look, I can find it easier. And I started to open them up and everything on it was gone. and that thumb drive had not been bothered since I loaded everything down on it and stuck it in the drawer underneath my computer and how it got zapped or whatever you want to call it I'll never know and I'm not saying that the government done it or nothing like that

but it's just seemed awful funny that the day that I'm supposed to go live on TikTok and makes your questions that kind of stuff that my computer gets fried and then all my years of research on that thumb drive also gets gone they was in my big foot folder not only did i keep my big foot stuff but also pictures off a trail cam of deer and hogs and all that kind of stuff so i had probably they ain't no telling how many thousands of pictures on that and when i opened up the big foot file all the other ones had nothing in on the big football had one picture in it and that was over. And like I say, I can't honestly say what, done it, but something happened to it because it was working fine the night before.

And then that day, five minutes before it's supposed to go live, it won't do nothing. That is, that is a tragedy and really, really makes it wonder. about stuff like that. What is your, what's your TikTok username? My TikTok is Tim Dills 13. Okay, cool. Something that listeners always,

they kind of have been pushing me to ask questions related to this. So I might start to do it. And we'll come at it like this. In the areas that you research, Have you ever found evidence of other creatures besides Bigfoot in those areas that are not your normal animals? No, I've honestly not. The only thing that I have seen that is hard to explain, I have seen a ball of light moving through the woods.

if you look on your map there's a place called boar tree it's off a while you road that is also one of my main hunting and research areas in that area I have been growled at

had blocks the road I'll just give you a quick story on that area I was going in and I noticed all this stuff broke across my trail but I was going in to change my my cameras and stuff out, and I reach up and break a limb off. That's about seven and half feet high.

I reach up and take my phone out and document it, of course, and break it off and throw it on the ground out of the trail. I get up into where my trail goes through a laurel thicket that I've cut a trail through. There's a stick stuck in sideways that would have hit me across the chest. and went, I get my phone back out, document that, and show that there's no way that that stick could have fell there. I take it out, throw it down, go on through. I come out, it takes me about an hour and a half to walk into this area. When I come out the other side, I'm sitting there rest in a minute,

and a rock comes over, over my head, and lands out in front of me in a clear cut. And so I'll get my phone back out, and I, well, they just throw the rock, it landed here, and it seemed like it come from behind me, and I turned my camera around backwards and done that, and went on in and done change my stuff out and come back down. And where I broke that first limb off, there's two fresh limbs laid across the trail that wasn't there when I went in. I mean, they're green.

You could tell they had been broken and laid down while I was gone. So I get my phone out, document them, throw them out of the way. I'm going through another less section of laurels and it's not like the one that had the stick in it. It's small, maybe 20 feet through it. I started into it and I hear one growl at me and I don't have the best hearing in the world so I knew that it was pretty close

and I thought, well, you crazy thing, I ain't got time just for we, I've got stuff I've got to do. And when I come out the other side, it growled at me again. And I thought, well, I ain't got tons of fools. I just acted like I didn't hear it. And I get ready to step across this small creek branch that was there. And I look and they had stuck a stick up between two trees that would have hit me across the breeze of the nose. And I'd get my phone up and document it.

And I know definitely it wasn't there because I'd have to have moved it to walk up through there. So I get off of that old logging road back down into the main logging road. And there's a locust tree that I have to go under. And they had broken a maple over about a bigger round of the softball. They had broke it over top of the locust while I was up in there. And so I'll come out and document that and everything. But that is the area where I saw the light men news. some, he dropped me off and went on around the road hunting, and I went up into where I hunted up

there. And I come back out, and I'm standing there, and me and him had just a few days before that bought some real bright flashlight from Walmart. They're super bright, and so I'm standing there, and I look down, it's getting dark, dark, and I look down the hill, and I see this orange bald about the size of a grapefruit, but it's real dull orange, almost like an old lantern to glow off an old lantern. And

it's moving intelligently, I can tell, you know, it's not just zipping here around and about, but it's honestly looking like it's looking for something. And I thought, well, what's he doing with that old flashlight? We've got our new ones, and I know

he's got it with him. And I stand there and watch it and watch it. And I thought, well, I go down there and see what he's looking for. So I turned my light on and shine down that way. And when I turned my light on, it goes up. And I thought, well, he'll be waiting on me. So I'll get down there. And he's not there.

And I'm thinking, well, he's going to try to jump out from behind the tree or something and scare me. And so I whistle for him. And I told him, I said, I know you down here. I've seen the light on him. So let's go. and I waited and he never did show up and I thought oh well and I got back down into the road where he let me out at and here he comes down the road to me

and we loaded all the stuff up and everything and we started down the road and I told him I said I just seen the weirdest thing I said I thought it was you but they was an orange light moving around and it was done at intelligence not just zipping around and everything like that. And he said, seriously? And I said, yeah. He said, he was sitting in my truck talking to his wife on the phone.

When he looked up in the road, something called his attention in the rearview mirror. And he looked up and there was an orange ball of light coming from below the road. It stopped in the center of the road. And then it went up in to where I was. is that. That's the only thing that I've seen or had up in there that, you know, that I couldn't explain the Bigfoot stuff is, you know, that's easy to identify. But that was the only thing that to this day, I still don't know what it was. There's definitely some weird things like stories like that that come out of North Carolina for sure. I found that every state seems to have its

really popular Bigfoot stories that are or accounts that are passed around people that are interested in the community and for example like you've have Oklahoma has a siege from early 2000 or you've got the whole account of you know the Patterson Gimlin film filming from 1967 for california have you found that there's an account that seems to always get passed around for north Carolina to people that are interested in the state? Yeah, there's east of work from where I live. It's a few hours driving east, a place called South Mountain. They have the one there they call it Nobby.

That's the one that I think is most, if you want to use the word famous, I think that's the one that is most known in as North Carolina would be none. Are there just a lot of sightings of that big foot around that area, or is it overly aggressive? That's one I haven't heard of personally. As far as I know, it's not aggressive. It's just that there seems to have been quite a few sightings going back, you know, quite a few years and still going on today. I will have to look into that, see if I can maybe if someone's from the area and they've experienced, experienced any knobby sightings or you know of the history.

Feel free to reach out in the comments or you can email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. Tim, it has been an absolute pleasure talking to you. You are involved with way more than I would have guessed in this area. And it sounds like you have quite a crew of researchers down there that are looking into this. Yes, sir. I've got, if you've got time, I can tell you. of my most recent sight. I would love that, yeah.

I definitely have the time. It I actually got a pretty good look at. Back up on Standing India, and I was going in and changing my audio recorder and my trail cams out and was walking back out. And I thought, well, I'm just going to, it was during deer season,

so it had to be end of November 1st of December. Well, actually, I know when it was. It was the first day of December in 2023. And I was walking back out, and I thought, well, I'm just going to sit right here and hunt till dark. And I sat down and I always carried the Bible on my phone. I'll sit there and read my Bible. And I've been reading about the hour just waiting on to get, you know, late in the evening for deer to start moving. And when I got through reading, I thought, it sucked.

watching me. And I turn around and look up on a little old ridge above me, maybe 100 yards, if that, no more than 120. And I see one standing there looking at me. It's pushing seven, half, eight feet tall, a dark color. I can see everything but its right shoulder out from behind the tree. I couldn't see its face real good, but I could see no neck, big broad shoulders, the color of it, the conical head not, you know, it wasn't like a pyramid or nothing like that, but you could tell that it was more than a human's head. And I'm trying to get my phone out.

I had just switched to an iPhone, and I'm trying to find out how to Zoom in and all of this stuff. and I know that it's not going to last, you know, that it's not going to stand there forever. So I throw my phone down and I pick up my rifle. And I turn around to look where it's at because that's, you know, when you're hunting and you learn to shoot, you keep your eyes on the target and you bring your gun up to it. Wellness looks different at every state. The right support makes all the difference. Power performance with vital proteins, advanced collagen peptides plus creatine,

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and it wouldn't move. I watched for probably three or four minutes. It would just stand there with its shoulder out. And I thought, well, I'll turn around. I scooted to where I could look out the corner of my eye and watch it. And once it thought I'd turn my head, it come out from behind it, but it dropped down to all fours. and crawled on its belly like an army crawl.

It crawled from one clump of trees to another clump and checked to make sure it wasn't watching it. And then it crawled from there, back across the little old ridge that it was on. And later, let's see, that was in December 23. No, not December 23, December 21. And then my wife went in there and cast a day. After that, we casted a track in there that is 16 inches long and 16 inches long and 8 inches wide.

Man, I can't imagine experience something like that. You must have been hardly breathing the whole time. Actually, it's, I was, I'm like just excited. Okay. I finally did a good look on one, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's the reason I wanted to see their face up close. That's the reason I was trying to get my phone out.

And then when I couldn't do that, whenever I couldn't do that, that's the reason I picked my rifle up. I wanted to get real good face details. But as soon as it sees me pick up my rifle, it stepped back behind there. But I've had, and I'm not bragging, and I hope it don't sound that way, and I'm not trying to act big and macho, nothing like that. But I've had interactions with them from Newsom's property on that through.

I don't, I'm not afraid. I'm just excited that I'm actually getting, you know, getting to see another one. With all this years of research, do you have a goal of what you would like to try to accomplish before, you know, in the years of research? that you have left, I guess I would say. Yeah, I would actually like to get a good video of one,

not to get famous or nothing like that. I could care less about that. But I want it. We've got some pretty good pictures between me and the guys that I go with. We've got some good thermal videos, real good thermal videos. But I would like to get one just so I could place it down to my grandkids. you know I'm getting ready to turn

50 7 Monday so I know I ain't got a lot of years left especially as bad as the mountains are and you suffer in here but I would like to get something that I could leave

that my grandkids could you know something besides the pictures have something that they could watch and say even if I get to take them that would be awesome. But if not, they can look back and say, well, when people say they don't exist, well, here's what my granddad found.

You know, he's had all of these. I would love to get something like that more for myself. If people wanted to accept that, it's fine, if not fine. I've been through that. I don't mean to be a jerk or nothing, but people say, are you a believer? And I say, no, I'm a knower. I know they're here. And no matter how much ridicule or whatever people put on me, I can care less.

I'm a grown man, I get over it. But I would love to have something that I could pass down to my grandkids and they'd be great green kids. And, you know, just to let them know because the way the world's going, who knows what's going to be around in another 30, 40 years. They may not even be no wilderness left to even set step in. Absolutely. No, I agree. It's kind of a sad, sad future unless we fix it. What kind of video setup do you have in order to try to capture that are using just your iPhone or other things?

We use, we've got, of course, tons of trail cameras in the woods. We use gopros. Our thermals are ATM. TIPAN, I think, is the one thermal that I got. It's a short-range thermal. My long-range thermal is ATN binoculars. They will detect a heat signature out to a mile, 1,800 yards. So that's what I use for my long range up here.

Like when the leaves get off the trees, I can set on one ridge and watch. you know, for a long ways. And those also record. They both record video. And like I say, we've got the Gopros. We've got a little handheld. They, oh, what's the camcorders? They used to be camcorders.

I don't know what they're calling them now, but the little handheld camcorders, we have those. I also use a, I'm trying to think of what it is, the Gopros. And then I've got one. that will actually mount to my gun, but I can also mount it to anything else also that I use. And the audio recorders that we use there are Sony personal recorders, but we found a way they usually run off with two double-a batteries, but we have found a way to make them run off

of two D batteries. Oh. And they will, like I said, they will record 24 hours a day for two weeks. and now Bob and Dwight are a whole lot more technical than I am. I still have trouble with my cell phone sometimes, but I am learning slowly but surely. But we also have the way my truck is fixed up. When we ride the back roads at night,

I have on my road bar, I have it fixed to where I can put a motor on it and attach my thermal to it. so it can go 360 degrees up, down, whatever it needs to do. And we run that to laptops inside my truck. I'll have mine up there. Bob Trent will have his with suction cups mounted to the hood. And Dwight will have his either mounted or he likes to just hold his a lot.

And sometimes he'll ride in the back of the truck. and that's just some of the ways we do our, do our recordings and stuff on the back roads. When we're in the woods, Dwight looks like a walking cameraman. I mean, he is, he's always taking pictures and videos,

and we'll get done and he'll start posting them, and I'll send him a text and say, where did you take that? I didn't even see you. So he is definitely the cameraman of the bunch. It's always fascinating to hear about a new part of a state where there's intense research going on. I'd say we can definitely say that about Macon County with you gentlemen. You guys are definitely doing some great work down there.

And it's been a pleasure chatting with you today. Tim, do you have any, as we kind of start to roll things down, do you have any final thoughts about Bigfoot or anything regarding? that. One thing is, and I forgot to mention this, but right now we have higher samples being tested at North Carolina State University. We have had some that Robin Moonshot took with her back to Canada and had them. And they ain't going to say there is such a thing as a big foot. But if they was, it meets all the criteria. So we have got that going on now. So one thing is, it's one thing to look them up on, you know, do your research online and that helps a lot.

But getting in the woods, you know, is the biggest thing. Be sure you're prepared because a lot of people that see them, they don't never want to go to the woods again. And then there's idiot bus that can't wait to get back in there and see if we can see another one. But the main thing is stay safe. That, you know, it's, there's a lot of things out there that besides Bigfoot, and like you said, we won't get into all of that. But there's other things out there besides Bigfoot that can cause trouble. I've actually been snake bit for head.

So just be careful and enjoy it. Absolutely. Tim, I've got one more question for you that I just thought. of and then I will let you go. When you sense, just because you have found multiple research areas, what are criteria you keep in mind when you're trying to find a new research area? One thing that seems, I don't know if it's coincidence or whatever you want to call it, but one thing is a food source.

I have found a lot of my research areas by finding places. I wanted to hunt, putting trail cameras out, finding deer in the areas, or we have quite a few wild hogs, that kind of stuff. But that is, they have to have food and they have to have water. And that is two of the biggest things to look for. A lot of times when I find that, I'll start deer hunting. Then as I learn more about the area, I'll start finding trees that are broke. You know, the X's made, structures made where they've woven things together and that kind of stuff. But wellness looks different at every stage.

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The biggest thing is they have to have food and they have to have water. shelter they can make anywhere, especially around here. There's a lot of caves, a lot of rock cliffs and stuff for them to get in. Here in Macon County, I think they stay here year-round. They don't migrate through. And the reason I say that, because we'll have encounters year-round, have them on our audio recorders year-round. But I think the biggest thing that you want to look for is a food source,

because something that big has to have a lot of food. Good, good advice to keep in mind when looking for a new place. But Tim, thank you so much for coming on. Are there ways that people can keep up to date with what you're doing, or are you kind of under the wire? Like, you're kind of just kept off to the side or there are ways even people can reach out to you? Oh, yes, sir.

anybody that wants to get a hold of me that can get a hold of me here on Facebook you can get a hold of me on TikTok I do have a YouTube channel it's the same as my TikTok but if you want to get a hold of me and got questions or anything like that since there's been so much stuff going on on Facebook with fake things just mentioned that how mentioned Bigfoot and I'll know that that you've heard it from the podcast and that kind of stuff. And I'll be more than glad to accept friend request and chat with you anytime,

you know, that you've got a question or just want to chat or whatever. Just feel free. I mean, I'm not one of them that tries to stay here. It ain't that I'm trying to make a name or nothing like that. I could care less about that. But I don't see no use in hiding either, especially if you can have. help other people, you know, that's what it should be all about, helping other people and getting anxious.

Absolutely. Well, Tim, thank you so much for chatting today, and we'll have to keep in touch in the future to see what you guys get into next. But thank you. Oh, you're more than welcome. And thank you. Thank you. All the listeners.

And as soon as we get some information back on what the hire samples turn up at North Carolina State. definitely get up with you and give you the report on that. Absolutely. I'll be looking forward to that. Thank you, Tim. Thank you, sir. And have a great evening.

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