Bigfoot Society - Alone in Deadhead Swamp: A Michigan Hunter’s Sasquatch Story

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

What happens when a seasoned Michigan hunter sets up camp deep in a forgotten swamp — and wakes up to something screaming just beyond the treeline? In this chilling and riveting episode, we sit down... with Nate, an outdoorsman from Roscommon County, who shares his terrifying overnight encounter at the Deadhead Swamp near Houghton Lake.Nate recounts the blood-curdling screams, the deafening howls, and the massive tracks he found the next morning — footprints that changed everything he thought he knew about the woods. You’ll hear about vocalizations that rival the legendary Sierra Sounds, missing hunters in the same forest, and why Nate has never set foot in that part of Michigan again.If you’re into stories that blend real wilderness experience with the unexplained, you won't want to miss this one. From Michigan’s eerie swamps to Nate’s emotional journey of discovery, this episode will leave you questioning what really lives in America’s wild places.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereGoodchop (Better Meat): Check it OutSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn More🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:01:37 It's from a Michigan hunter who knew every sound the woods could make until something shattered the silence. Three voices, bone-chilling screams, and footprints unlike anything he'd ever seen. Alone in Deadhead Swamp under a sky full of stars, Nate faced something ancient, and it left him forever changed. This is in folklore, it's not a misidentified animal. It's a first-hand account from someone who knows the first-hand. forest better than most.
Starting point is 00:02:03 And this is the story of Nate and the night Michigan swamp screened back. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of talking to Nate today. Nate is a listener of the show from out there in the great state of Michigan. And he's got some interesting things to share today. He's a hunter and an outdoorsman as well. But welcome to the show today, Nate.
Starting point is 00:02:24 How's it going? Pretty good. Thank you for having me. Absolutely. you know I always enjoy talking to those that are hunters and outdoorsmen you all have a very interesting way of experiencing what happened out there
Starting point is 00:02:42 and I'm just thankful for you coming on the show so I'm going to make sure that you have the time to share what you need to today Nate so I'll go ahead and pass things over to you and we'll go from there all right thanks appreciate your life So I guess it goes, I think it was, I believe it was 2001. And I would go to the northern lower peninsula in Michigan and Rosscom and State Game Area near Houghton Lake, Rosscombe County. And my family, we've been going there off and on for many years.
Starting point is 00:03:26 We would go there for usually rough grouse hunting and a little duck hunting and stuff like that, and occasional bow hunting for deer. And I was there, I believe it was the first weekend. The grouse season opens on September 15th, and so it would be the first week, first full weekend that was available for the open. And I drove there and was there Saturday and basically spent the day while. walking around in the sweats off. I think the people of the neighborhood call it the dead horse or deadhead swamp. It's a pretty big area.
Starting point is 00:04:03 It doesn't have any roads in it right there. It's kind of basically on the west side of the freeway. And I drove a few miles back in an area where I camp. There's a clearing that I like camp in. Maybe two or three miles back in on the state game area. And I spent the day walking around basically just looking for birds and wasn't much going on. It was a little hot and a little dry. And I got back Saturday night, Saturday evening and had something to eat and was just hanging out by the fire and went to bed.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I was pretty tired. I probably walked six, eight miles there in the afternoon and maybe a few in the morning, probably total 10, 15 miles circling around. So I went to bed early right before dark, and I woke up sometime. the middle of the night something woke me up and I've never woke up where I like are shocked awake I guess you could say where you get scared like you're scared awake I woke up uh something something up and stuck me and I sat there and there was something screaming outside of my tent really loud and I've been over a long time been all over Michigan been in the UP all over the place
Starting point is 00:05:24 it wasn't uh it was the volume on it was really loud is what scared me at the first like you know concerned me and it was uh after I listened it went on for
Starting point is 00:05:37 quite some time so as I listened to it you know I sat there initially you're frightened over it and then I kind of calmed down with it while I was going and it continued to scream and it wasn't the volume was just like it was it was ear splitting
Starting point is 00:05:53 and uh the duration. It was so long and loud. Like it was, I've heard, you know, foxes or, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:02 bobcats. You know, fox can, it'll scare you pretty good. They make quite the noise. But this was just like, whatever was the other, it was too big.
Starting point is 00:06:13 It couldn't, no animal that right around of Michigan seemed like would have the lungs, just the capacity to make a sound that was that louder,
Starting point is 00:06:22 that long. but it would it screamed maybe five or six times real loud maybe a few minutes apart and then I guess it was probably in this clearing I mean it's maybe 100 yards across the woods are maybe 30 or 40 yards from my tent I got I was up in the tent with the window
Starting point is 00:06:44 slightly open looking out it was dark I couldn't see anything but it sounded like it was just inside the wood line for my tent the one as it was screaming on and off but then another one would scream there would be a different scream that would come from maybe 150 yards down the wood line this one would
Starting point is 00:07:03 scream a couple times and like this one the other one would answer and you could tell because there were two different sounds one the first one was real it was real shrieky like high-pitched almost like a woman screaming but like it would have to be a you know
Starting point is 00:07:16 it wasn't as high-pitched is like, I'd say like a woman screaming, but it had that shrill sound to it, and it was long and, you know, very loud. And the other one would do a similar scream, but it sounded more deep in tone. They screamed back and forth with each other for,
Starting point is 00:07:44 I don't know how long. I was pretty amped up in a tent and couldn't tell. You know, time probably seemed like to take forever. But, you know, maybe for, I'd say 45 minutes or an hour they kind of back and forth vocalized and like they never really moved but then a third one would come down
Starting point is 00:08:04 the clearing I mean is probably two or three hundred yards long and at the far end it would come back but it sounded like it was a lot it was a much more deeper tone it wasn't as shrill and it was it was it sounded like whatever it was it was it had lungs like a horse it was as loud as it could be And just real, real deep tone like, whoa, you know, like that. But what it would end, it would like hub, hub, hub, hub, hub, hub.
Starting point is 00:08:35 It would make some kind of weird, like, almost like gibberish at the end of it. It would hub, hub, hub, hop, this weird noise. But it would only answer periodically. So the one closest to me was screaming, all of was doing the most, making the most noise. and I was afraid to get out of ten. I wasn't getting out of the tent. I was in there with a shotgun loaded, and like, I didn't know what it was.
Starting point is 00:09:01 I'd heard, been in the dark, been scared by raccoons, like, you know, I ran into a few things. This was like, you could feel it. And, you like, it was so loud, it would make you shake. Like, it literally, I've never been that scared about something like that. And the one closest to me would make the shrieking scream for, a few seconds, seven, eight, ten seconds maybe,
Starting point is 00:09:27 and then it would stop, and the other one would answer, and it would scream, and then the other, what I assumed was the biggest one, it sounded like, at the farthest away, he would only answer,
Starting point is 00:09:38 whatever, it would only make a call every, every 10, 5, 10, five, 10, five, six times, these things would talk to each other, basically. It sounded like,
Starting point is 00:09:49 it's like they were, two were yelling back and forth each other, and the one at the end was telling them to be quiet. I mean, that's what it was like. He was, it was just, you know, real loud,
Starting point is 00:09:58 you know, you know. And finally the, the one with a deep voice, it stopped. It quit making any racket. It stopped. The one closest to me would,
Starting point is 00:10:13 would call a little less frequently. And the second one, I would say, was maybe, you know, 150, 200 yards away for me at most. It seemed like it only made a few noises and then like it cut out. And the one that was just inside the tree line for my tent, like you could almost hear it like,
Starting point is 00:10:33 it would screech, would scream. And then it would like, it was losing like, like no one was answering. Like it would be a little less and a little less. And I was like, it just made like he's, oh, there's little grunts and stuff. And kind of just cut out and then it stopped in entirety. So it went on for quite a long time or night, and I was pretty weird about it. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:11:00 It was pretty nervous in the tent. So I stayed up until it was broad daylight, peeking out the window, never saw anything. And then when it was daylight, I finally opened the tent and looked around against it. And I just literally threw everything in, pulled the calls out of my tent, threw everything on top of the tent, folded the tent up, and set it in the back of my pickup.
Starting point is 00:11:21 And I bailed out. out of there and was gone. I left. So if you drive down out of there, you go down the two trackaways and it goes and there's a spot where it splits a big swamp before you get back to the Nelsville Road where the freeway's at.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I drove down that road in the swamp and I stopped and I sat there a truck and I thought for a minute, like, you know, what was that last night? Like, I have no idea. I was just sitting there kind of like I've never heard anything like that, and I was pretty freaked out about it. So I was sitting there thinking, I was like, you know, I'm like, if I don't go back and luck, like, I'm going to wonder forever what it was. Like, I didn't think it was a good idea to go back.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I don't know. But I sat there for a minute and thought, well, I'll go back with the truck, and I'll just, I'll drive back, and I won't drive all the way back to my campsite. There's a, you take a couple forks, and it goes through a great big clearing, and then the two track goes into the woods and then it reaches and it forks again and then the clearing I was in is on the left fork so I stopped in the main larger clearing
Starting point is 00:12:30 parked my truck turned around so it was facing back out the way I came in the field got out loaded my shotgun got everything pull up the nightclos on and I walked down the two track and I was just going to walk down the two track back to where I was at and just nice and so And as I was walking, I was looking in the bushes.
Starting point is 00:12:51 I was going real slow, almost like I was still hunting deer, just trying to make sure I didn't walk in anything. I was just looking to see what was in front of me. You know, pretty nervous about it. I'm not going to lie. And I got down the sand and the two track, and I looked down and I saw there's like where the two tracks, saying the two truck goes, there's basically like your two lanes
Starting point is 00:13:14 where the tires have wore all of the grass and the sod and stuff off. It's just sandy dirt. And then in the center there's that little bit of grass that grows in the middle. There was a track. And I could see there was a footprint track of something that had five toes. But I couldn't see the whole track because it had stepped down the grass and the toes were in the sand. And I looked at it. And then as I looked up, there was another one that was kind of the same way.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Like it was walking down the center of the two track where it was grassy. And I go, that's a big bear. Like, holy smart. folks. I go, that's a huge bear track. I'm looking at it. You know, I got a size 12 boot. Like, I can't, I can only see like, basically, toes where it's walking down there.
Starting point is 00:13:56 But I'm looking at it. I'm like, man, those are, you know, round toe. I'm like, that's got to be, I'm thinking it's a bear. And my boot behind it. It's substantially wide. The toes are everything. And I'm like, man, that's a huge bear paw. Like, that's a, I'm like, that's a black bear.
Starting point is 00:14:12 He's a beast. You know, I'm thinking, like, man, there's a big bear cells. I'm walking. I'm following the tracks. They kind of go. down the center of the two track, there's about five, six some tracks, but I'm noticing they cut
Starting point is 00:14:24 out onto the sand and they're out of the grass and they're actually in the sand. When I walk up to the one in the sand, I'm like, okay, there's the toes, everything, but there's no claws on it. And then I look up and the next, there's another track in front of it, but it's four foot, farther up. So I'm like, oh, this bear's thing. I'm thinking he's moving.
Starting point is 00:14:45 So I'm looking at it. I'm looking at the track. And like, the track is long. So I'm looking at myself, I'm thinking like, you know, coyote and stuff when they walk, they'll put their foot in the same hole. So the cowl almost look like he's walking on two feet if he's in a little bit of snow or something like that. They step in something in the, you know, this bear's hustling
Starting point is 00:15:04 and he stepped in his track. When I'm looking at the track and I don't see, I'm looking at the tracks going along there and I'm like, I kind of don't see a second set of toes in them. So I'm looking at the thing and I go down. and there's like five, six, maybe a total, let's say there was
Starting point is 00:15:22 45 or 50 tracks down the section I could see in the two track. There was quite a few tracks. But as I follow the first six, eight, ten tracks, you know, they're all four or five, four or five foot apart, you know, it's big stride.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I'm looking at them and I'm like, I'm looking at them like, I'm not making sure, like I don't get the, like, I don't see a second bear track in them, you know, kind of like that stuff. I'm like, they're weird. And I get down to the last one, and then all of a sudden they're like half as long. And I can see the toes.
Starting point is 00:15:53 And now the stride is like six and a half, seven feet maybe. You know, it's so stanch exaggerate. If I'm walking, I'm like, this, you know, is this bare like on a full lope going down the trail? And I'm looking at it. And they're short. So I follow them, and they go up to where the clearing, it forks to go to the clearing where I was camped at. So when it forks, you only have to go a little ways and then you're into the clearing. You know, 50 or 75 yards, it's not very far.
Starting point is 00:16:24 When a forks left, they stopped at the fork, and then where they stopped, there was a bunch, there was six, eight tracks, but they were long again. They weren't, they were, I could put my size 12 boot in it. And, you know, it would, it would fit comfortably inside the track, no problem, inch or two on each end. and, you know, heel wider than mine and everything. And I was looking at it. And then, like, I'm six to, like, 230 pounds at the time. The sand had been rained on.
Starting point is 00:16:59 It was packed down pretty tough because the truck didn't leave a whole lot of tracks in it too bad. You know, wasn't that soft? I stomp my boot next to it, and I could leave, like, the cleat marks in the ground. But the track was, you know, wasn't deep, but it was twice as deep as what I could stomp in the ground with my cleats on my boots. It was pressed everywhere. But the thing was is they went from these short tracks to these long tracks, and then they were like kind of all pointed in different directions for a second.
Starting point is 00:17:26 I was seeing they're looking at it, and I'm like, so I walked forward and they're gone. So it turned around and looked back, and I think what it did is it ran up to that that fork before where I was camp, and it stopped, and it stood around looking in a couple different directions, and then it just stepped off the trail into the woods. where there's some waist-high brush. So I saw that and was like, I don't know, I'm getting out of here. So I got loaded up,
Starting point is 00:17:58 I walked back, got headed back to the truck and got everything, put my stuff in the truck, and I drove out of there, and I drove home. I didn't do much, think much about it to, you know, I told my one buddy who I saw, he told me I was nuts. Like, he didn't know, he said it was just a bear or something. I said I didn't know what it was. So I was a, I was, never thought about, like, Sasquatch or anything along those lines. Like, I was just a, and I was a kid, you know, I knew about something, but I was 25 years old, never crossed my mind once.
Starting point is 00:18:31 So kind of didn't, you know, think too much about it. After that, I just thought it was something weird, told me a couple of my buddies I hunt, you know, we hunt together with once in a while about it, thought it was weird. And they thought it was pretty weird, too, you know, didn't know what it was. wasn't that turning it that big of a deal. So then fast-forward, I don't know, quite a few years, maybe nine, ten years. I'm watching TV and the show Monster Quest comes on, of all things. So I sat down and I was watching that. They had a thing on there and they had a, I watched it,
Starting point is 00:19:15 There was, they were talking about some stuff, and they had some noises on there, like the Ohio Hall and some other stuff. And then they played a clip of like, I don't know if it's in the intro or it was in the episode or what of these noises that kind of caught my attention. So just out of nowhere, I never done it before, I decided to go on the computer. And I just literally searched like Sasquod, you know, or whatever noises and stuff like that. and the Sierra sounds came up from Ron Moorhead. And I clicked on those, and when I heard a couple of those sounds, I was like, whoa, that's really similar to what I was hearing. A couple things there, not all of them, but just a couple of them were similar.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Then I started researching some of the sounds and was like, whoa. But what I thought, I was like, man, I'm like, that's what I heard. Like, that's, if you amplified it, loud as competing, because I know it probably doesn't record the same way, you know, when it's, when you're live, it never, you know, it never sounds the same when you record it. If you heard that in real life and it was loud as I heard it, like that would be really similar. It kind of like, you know, drew my interest. So I went in a deep dive on it and started looking at all the reports from a BSRO website and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:20:31 and saw there was things around the area and it was like, man, I don't know. But I started watching, uh, then I started searching. And then I started searching all kinds of stuff, everything I could find. You know, research and just anything that was in a Sasquatch stuff like that, I would look at it because I was like, man, I was like, I don't know. I don't think of what, maybe it was. And then I stumbled into an episode. I don't know what it was.
Starting point is 00:20:57 It was a documentary or something with Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum. And he had a thing about, they had a graphic of the local, motion of the foot with the mid tarsal break. And I was watching it, just sitting there watching it and like, you know, I was eating something watching it. And they showed how like
Starting point is 00:21:20 the human foot steps off and leaves the pressure ridge. And then they showed how the foot lifts off and suppose it mid-tarsal break and a Sasquatch leaves that further back pressure ridge. And when I looked at it and then summer that he said when they run,
Starting point is 00:21:36 they leave a half track. And I went, holy smokes. Like right there, it was like I got struck my lightning on the couch. I almost choked. And what I was eating. And I went, I saw a track line of something walking with a mid-tarsal break that started running. And that was the half-track. Because when I
Starting point is 00:21:52 saw the half-tracks, all I could think was like, this bears on two legs running. Like, he's not leaving a, there's not another set of paw prints by it. So it was, literally he was walking, or maybe she, whatever it was, was walking on its feet, flat foot It had a slow pace and when it amplified the gate and lengthened the gate.
Starting point is 00:22:12 It started, that's where it ran for 100 yards, 75 yards. It spreaded route. And that's where it left the half track. It was running on the forepaw on its foot, basically. And that's where, after that, I was like, okay, I know, I'm pretty sure that's what I encountered. I didn't see anything. I only heard something, and I found that track on the ground. But the tracks had five toes in a straighter line.
Starting point is 00:22:37 They were wider than my foot. It had a huge, huge heel on it. And then there was the half tracks after that where the stride got longer, and then when it stopped, at the end of the trail, the stride was shorter for a couple steps. And it was the whole foot on the ground. So after that, I've never gone back there.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I've thought about it. I've talked to some people around here, but it's not very easy to talk about anybody with this stuff, because a lot of people think, give you the like, yeah, right, okay, you know, it's hard to find some people like mine that you can discuss it with, you know, without having that stigma on it.
Starting point is 00:23:18 And when you can do that, I think it makes it a little easier. I'd like to, I see there's more people that have had an experience where I was at. I wonder if this would help anybody out to let their experience be known. if it was the same area because I found several things in that area that were alluding to something being there. Okay, that was actually one of the questions I was going to ask you is, so you've looked into that area since then,
Starting point is 00:23:58 and you've seen other people leaving reports in different areas? Yeah, just a handful, but I found them. And I mean, I found stuff like from, you know, the BFRO reports, which is pretty pretty decent for, you know, getting information from, I think. And then some other things for people. And then up here, there's a couple of Facebook pages where the people are on there sharing it about things that have gone in Michigan. And I just kind of posted something on those.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Just seeing if anybody would respond, how they would respond mostly, you know. or if they're, you know, people that had an experience, like I had just, you know, disavivircation because, you know, anybody I talked to about it, I've got one, you know, maybe a pair of buddies that are actually, like, open-minded about it. Like, they're raccoon hunters by trade, you know, by, you know, family was and stuff like that, and they hunt, like I would and stuff up north used to. And they've had experiences that they can't explain noises and stuff like that. And they're open-minded to it.
Starting point is 00:25:03 So they can discuss it, but most people, they're pretty close-minded to it. So it's tough. So I've found a couple people on Facebook pages that have had a similar experience in the same area. And I did find that, if I can say his name, Mr. Politis, Dave Politis, who does the missing 411. He has one about missing persons in Michigan in the National Forest, and there's a missing hunter that was lost in the Rostom and state gaming area. They found his car with, I think, the door open and nothing taken out of it.
Starting point is 00:25:39 And that's less than 100 yards from where I camp. And I think it was in, like, the same time frame. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was pretty wild. I just, like, I watch David Politis and stuff on there. I really enjoy it. He has a pretty, you know, interesting documentaries on YouTube there that he does and, you know, posting up the different ideas.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And that one had caught my attention because it was from Michigan. I know about the Pamanan National Forest and all that and how many people go missing and stuff. And that one struck me because as I was reading it and he was explaining it, I'm pretty sure that I know exactly where that car was parked. And it was probably less than 100 yards from where I camp. He went missing. If it was the same year, I was there, he went missing a month later. Wow.
Starting point is 00:26:30 So I found that to be pretty strange. Yeah, that kind of stuff really makes you wonder. I was also looking through the BFRO website in the same county. And I mean, I'm seeing at least one Class A group of teenagers had a visual near Houghton Lake. This is back in 1984, which I thought was very interesting as well. Yeah, that whole, if you go there from Houghton Lake and you go eastward and north through like Roscommon County, Ogamaw County, Scota County all in there and through that through that part of National Forest. There's something to do with that part of the National Forest and the swamp land and everything goes through there.
Starting point is 00:27:18 That seems to be pretty busy. Eight sightings in Montgomery County alone. Oh, yeah, yeah. The people that you were, I think you said you were talking to them in these Facebook groups, did they also hear similar things to what you heard out there? Yes, they said they had. One guy was a bow hunter and said that he lives not too far from there, and his family hunted there for, like, my family had duck hunted there for 20 years, you know.
Starting point is 00:27:52 And I go the second week in October up there for a weekend and duck hunting. And then, you know, it was kind of an annual thing. And then we stopped doing that a few years ago when the drought came in. And it kind of lowered the swamp levels of the water and the ducks didn't cease to migrate there. So it kind of left alone. So I would just go there bird hunting because it would. start in September and the weather would be real nice. And it was a good go camp and go walk around.
Starting point is 00:28:14 And it was a spot where, you know, there was no roads to really access it. So you never ran into anybody. It was real quiet. It's a, it's one of those places when you get into it. Like, you can get turned around real easy and lost. And a lot of it's kind of, my one buddy that came with me the one year, he said, he goes, I won't go back because that place is too creepy for me. It's big, there's some big old trees in there and some swamps and you can get
Starting point is 00:28:35 turned around. I get what he means by it, but it's not. not a, I've been there a bit, quite a bit, so I was comfortable. That was his first trip. He didn't like slogging through the brush. A couple of people I've talked to on Facebook that have spent time there. And the one gentleman said that he had enough experiences there, they don't go back. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:28:55 That's what I believe he said. I had a pretty long chat with him on Facebook there back and forth about it. He said he would be willing to go back there if people wanted to go. But he said he hasn't been back there hunting in years because it was. I don't think they saw anything, but they said there was activity that made him nervous. Yeah. Okay. I got you.
Starting point is 00:29:18 If people were wanting to check it out, he would go back, but he's not going to go hunting back there type deal. Yeah, I don't think he would go by himself. Yeah. I'd be willing to maybe go back by myself. But I think it'd be better to go to two people. Especially in an area where, I mean, you've got a documented missing person situation. like you had mentioned. Exactly what I was thinking.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Before I probably would have been up to like, I had three years I've been like, I didn't go back and just go hang out. And I'm like, well, it's, you know, it was 25 years ago. I don't even know if they may have, you know, forested part of it, harvested some of the trees off it.
Starting point is 00:29:58 You know, when I was there, they hadn't, they had harvested trees on it, but it was all new growth. They hadn't done anything there. So I don't know. Like I said, I haven't been back there to scout it
Starting point is 00:30:07 to even see if they're like, oh, wow, they stripped a lot of the forest style of it and it's growing back, you know, new growth. You know, a lot of it was, it was, you know, pretty wooded. There wasn't, there wasn't much of it that had been cut. So, I don't know if this is something you'd ever thought of before, but when you went back to look at the area again and you saw the tracks, have you ever thought about what you
Starting point is 00:30:38 would have done if you actually had had like a face-to-face or visual sighting during that time. And I think about it probably every day. Like you said, I don't know. I suppose, you know, it's like you're running to a bear, you don't do anything, you know. You stand your ground, face them, you back away. You know, it's a black bear. You act big. I think I don't know, you know, I don't, you know, I don't, I guess it depends what kind of mood it would be.
Starting point is 00:31:09 You know, if a grizzly's trying to eat you, what do you got to do? You play dead. Black Bear's going to eat you. You got to fight back. I honestly don't know what you would do. Like, that's a whole different deal. Like, if it just showed up and was there like, man, that'd be nothing more. And like, I don't think you'd be, I don't think you can get a picture of it.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I don't think you can record it. It has to, like, it has to be, I don't think you could get a, if I had a camera with me, like, I would have took pictures of the track. I didn't. That was before. I don't even think we had flip phones yet. That was like we had the push button, push to talk nextel phones. The yellow brick you could stick under your car tire, keep it from rolling away. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:47 You know, so there was, yeah, there was no like that. I didn't get annoying. And the same thing, like I said, I was in, you know, Bigfoot when I was a little kid, you know, six, seven, eight years old. I remember reading the books out of the library and Bigfoot Nessie. And like, I never read anything like, now it's like, I'm like a sponge with it. I go to, I'm on Amazon. I have John Green's books, you know, the Aves Among Us.
Starting point is 00:32:09 I've read Roger, Ivan Sanderson's books, book, John Bender Nogles, anything Jeffrey Naldrum does, I follow up on now, and it's like, my wife thinks I'm nuts.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Like, my wife does, I've never said a word to this about my wife, what's actually happened, you know, what I had happened to me, I experienced,
Starting point is 00:32:28 you know, she just thinks I'm like a big foot nut. Like, I just like to watch Monster Quest. She's not a skeptic. She's like, she's not, I think yourself
Starting point is 00:32:38 for claim, She's like, I don't know why I know so much about Jagannapithecus. It's probably because you watch so much TV with Bigfoot in it. That probably has something to do with it. Have you ever considered to share that story with her? Yeah, she's not, I don't know how receptive she is to it. Like, it's kind of like, my wife's got a pretty sharp wit. She'd probably chew me up.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Yeah, some things are better left on set. I don't know. I would share it with her. I'm not scared to, but it's like I've never brought up. It's kind of one of those things. Like I told, said something, I got a couple, like I said, I have a couple buddies that are, you know, receptive to the whole thing. Like, they've had experience and stuff that they don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:18 And, you know, they question it best. And the other people I've told were like, man, you're a, you're Looney Tuesday. What are you doing? Get out of here. Yeah, sure, you know. The Easter bunny sits on my porch kind of thing, you know. Yeah, I get that stuff too. There of the persuasion that there's one big foot. You saw the only big foot that wanders around.
Starting point is 00:33:40 It's one monster. I'm like, I'm kind of leaning to the thing like Modrum and them guys or John Benderdogl talks about. Like, it's an extant species. Right. Yeah, no, I'm right there with you. I mean, I get some weird looks when people ask me what I do. So, but, you know, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I'm getting to that point. No, I'm getting old enough in my life that I've got into the point. Like, I'll give you a stink eye. If you don't think it, I'd tell you, like, you know, I believe. I didn't say I saw one. I just said I found some footprints and something was making racket that I can't explain. I take that position like Les Stroud does. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Yeah, absolutely. You know, I'm like Jeff Waldrum. I'm not a believer, but I'm convinced there's something to it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Have you ever considered or has it ever crossed your mind to go out on a, like, type of expedition type thing with other people to see if you can find evidence or is. that a line that you're comfortable not crossing? Being a hunter, like I am and stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Like, I'm not much of a hunter anymore. When I was younger, I was pretty gung-ho. You know, I wasn't much for killing animals or doing that, but I like the whole aspect of the thing, like, you know, the challenge of being out and, you know, getting out, getting back, you know, being out there. Like, if I harvested an animal, that was just icing on the keg. I didn't care if I, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:07 it managed to harvest anything. But I was there for the. experience kind of stuff, you know? But the way I've learned how to like, you learn how to operate around animals, you know, so they don't, you know, they don't find you. You have to be a predator.
Starting point is 00:35:22 And like, I don't, I don't know, like, do you take, you know, if it's like, Benid on them say it's a, it's a higher primate or a hominid and it's got intelligence if, you know, it's not on par with a human being, but it's not a chimpanzee where it's got the ability to cognitive ability to be like, I have to hide or, you know, bad things will happen to me. it's not like you're hunting a deer
Starting point is 00:35:42 or doing anything like that so just going out in a group and just acting benign and making some racket and banging on trees I mean did they come in and check you out to be like wow these people aren't doing anything you know let's go see what they're up to does that work or you know
Starting point is 00:35:54 I'm of the aspect where it's like you got to be two people and just go do your own thing and let them find you maybe I don't know and I think an expedition would be interesting I've never been on one I'd like to see how it works I know some people have
Starting point is 00:36:11 seem to say that they it works for them you know and stuff like that but i would i'm i'm open minded to just about anything i think if you're not you're doing yourself against service exactly you know you have to yeah if you're at the if you're at the point where you hear people say stuff and you're just discounting it because it doesn't line up with what you hold yeah you're you're putting yourself in a bad situation um there's Yeah, you got to be aware of what's being reported, even if it doesn't line up with your stuff. But, yeah, Nate, I mean, I thank you so much for coming forward, sharing what you experienced that day and that night in the Ross Common, Michigan area. It's just, you know, I almost like some people consider them, I think, class B encounters.
Starting point is 00:37:09 But sometimes those are even more interesting or as interesting, I think, than, you know, if you've had a visual. But I just want to say thank you for coming on the show. It's been a pleasure talking to you today. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't anything else that you wanted to share before we end out our time. No, I'm good. I appreciate you having me in a forum here where I can, you know, talk about this, you know, without having to have it. I'm feeling like I'm being going to be ostracized by the end of it, you know. You always have that, you know, you're kind of afraid to like, you know, tell the whole thing
Starting point is 00:37:48 because somebody's going to be dealing like, oh, you know, whatever, you know, a huge eye roll. But it's just nice to, you know, with like-minded people that are, have any interest in, like, you know, whether or not this is a real kind of stuff or nothing. It's a good thing. It's I like it. Absolutely. That's why we do it. That's why I do it so that people have a place to share and not have to be scared.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Yeah, feel free to pass on my info to anyone you've been talking to and wants an area to share as well. Feel free to share my email or whatever you'd like. But thanks again, Nate, for coming on the show and I appreciate you chatting today. Hey, no problem. Thank you for having me. I really enjoyed it. I just wanted to take a minute to say thank you truly for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Nate's story is one of those encounters that stays with you.
Starting point is 00:38:38 not just because of what he heard in the dark, but because of how deeply it shook a lifelong hunter to his core. So huge thanks to Nate for bravely sharing his experience from Roscommon County and reminding us all that sometimes the wilderness is wilder than we can imagine. If you enjoy this conversation, please subscribe to us on YouTube, hit the bell so you don't miss future episodes, and share this one with a friend who loves a good mystery. If you're listening on Apple, podcast, or Spotify,
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