Bigfoot Society - An Unstoppable Force! | Idaho
Episode Date: January 8, 2025This is an unlocked Patreon episode originally released 5/4/24.Join host Jeremiah Byron from the Bigfoot Society podcast as he delves into an intense and detailed encounter in Northern Idaho. Hear fro...m Dan, a seasoned hunter, recount his terrifying experience during the 2021 elk hunting season in the rugged terrain of Idaho’s panhandle. Initially dealing with harsh weather and challenging landscapes, the situation takes a strange turn when Dan hears a series of eerie wood knocks, leading him to an encounter with an enormous creature. Overcome by fear and uncertainty, Dan shares his struggle to comprehend the massive, human-like figure he saw. This gripping story includes intricate details of the location, the encounter's escalation, and the emotional aftermath, making for a riveting episode that questions the very reality of these mysterious creatures.🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: bigfootsociety@gmail.comWant to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com
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I've got the privilege of talking to Dan today he reached out to me and I was curious if
he would be able to share some things that he experienced and I said yeah absolutely
let's chat about it and Dan I hope all is going well
I'm going to pass it on right over to you and feel free to share what's going on, brother.
All right. Thank you.
So this was a 2021 elk hunting season.
I didn't draw my usual tag in in central Idaho where I grew up.
Usually we hunt in the Frank Church wilderness.
But didn't draw early enough.
I'm out of state now.
I live in Washington.
So closest best choice was up in the panhandle of Idaho.
So we got our tags there.
My dad headed out, oh, about half a week early before opening day.
I still had to finish up work for the week, and he wanted to scout.
Turns out he had actually fought on a wild, he was a wildland firefighter for most of his life,
and he had been up there, so he knew it.
I hadn't, even though I grew up in Idaho, North Idaho was like a different state to us.
So I got up there a couple days before opening season.
He met me at the base of the mountain.
And we just started winding our way up.
It was about a two-hour drive just to get to the top of this ridge line.
And then from there, just trying to find a spot to a flat spot.
That's something you'll probably hear me say over and over.
This was probably the most brutal terrain I've hunted in.
and I've been hunting my entire life.
Straight up and straight down, it was just horrible, heavily wooded.
So we just started driving along ridgelines,
trying to find a flat spot where we could fit both of our pickups
and establish a base camp.
And we eventually did pretty much hit the end of the road
on this one ridge line, found a spot, set up base camp.
Since we were still about a day out at that point,
from opening day, this were chilling, scouting around a little bit.
It was pretty much the only time we saw people up on that mountain.
A lot of locals driving around with their kids on side by sides, four-wheeler's,
whatnot.
And what was funny, later on, my dad and I actually commented to each other.
We ran into some locals and they asked, hey, are those your pickups up at such and such spot?
And we said, yeah.
And they said, are you guys going to hunt up here?
And this is what's weird.
I talked to at least three hunters separate from my dad, and he talked to three or four others.
All of them chuckled and said, you got the place to yourself.
No one hunts up on that mountain anyways.
Yeah, have fun.
And we thought, hey, great.
We don't do the road hunting thing.
Not that's a problem if people are driving around and just looking that way.
It's just we, I didn't grow up that way.
the Frank Church Wilderness, it's one road in, one road out, and it's actually illegal to even
drive a bicycle off of the main, if you can call it a road. We just get out there and hoof it,
put in a lot of mileage, scouting. So we thought that was great. So opening day comes, as predicted,
horrible weather. This is the first week in October, way up north. Sleet all day, the first day
from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. then it turned to snow. But we just we struck out in different directions.
That's how we hunt. We don't hunt together. It's been that way since I was probably 11 years old.
We go one way. Dad goes another way. We meet back at the truck or base camp at dark. First day,
awful. Second day, awful, because it snowed. And then around the third day, it was sunny and clear,
not a cloud in the sky.
We were at base camp, this staying in our trucks.
It was just too awful weather.
I wasn't going to bivouac out on the side of that mountain.
It was horrible.
So he went east.
I went west along the ridge line.
Pretty much hit a dead end pretty quick.
There's this massive rock formation that goes from the top of the mountain all the way to the bottom.
And it's impassable by foot.
So I started going south.
a little bit, ended up coming back by base camp, and it was roughly noon, 1230, and decided I'd
been all over the southwest portion of that mountain in the previous two days, so let's just head
south by southeast. I knew my dad was due east on the ridge line, so I wasn't worried about
bumping into him or anything. I'm just winding my way down this slope, and up to this point,
I had seen two deer, and they were mulees, actually, up there instead of white tail.
But nothing else.
No, no spore, no track, no game trails, nothing.
So as I'm winding down this ridge, I come across the first, or no, I'm sorry, ridge slope.
I come across the first game trail I'd seen.
And I got pretty excited because that meant there at least that animals had crossed that awful mountain.
So I start following it about southeast, so heading down the slope a little bit,
and came into an area that was a little bit open,
and I could see down below south of me, there was actually some open grassy areas.
I wouldn't call them meadows, maybe clearings.
And that got me even more excited because that's a place elk would be grazing around dawn or dusk.
And at this point, it's close to 1 o'clock.
And I'm thinking, okay, if I get down there and I keep going, that means I have to go up this mountain in the dark.
And there's grizzly and stuff up there.
I wasn't too worried about them.
We were pretty high up.
But still, I just figured, you know what, let's follow this game trail to start.
And I'd been standing there, I don't know, five, ten minutes, just looking down.
and looking to the game trail, which went actually east by northeast,
so back up the mountain a little bit,
which was more or less the direction I wanted to head towards the last half of the day.
And I'm just standing there, and I could see all the way there's a break in the tree,
so I could see these grassy areas, and they went in steps.
And I just made a note to myself, hey, I'll come back tomorrow,
hit it early, get down there and see, get down there before even daylight,
and lay up somewhere.
But I decided today I'm going to follow this game trail.
And I turned, had only gone a few steps, and I hear these five distinct knocks.
And the best way I could describe them, it's if you spelled it out in a comic book, T-H-O-K-F-K, fuck.
Just five evenly spaced fuck.
And it was coming directly from,
one of those, what I could tell at first, probably the furthest clearing, somewhere down there.
And I remember stopping and looking and going, what is someone doing down there beaten on a tree?
There's no people up here.
This is horrible terrain.
We haven't seen anybody in a couple days.
And I just thought, okay, yeah, whatever, that's weird.
I don't know.
Sound carries, but it sure sounds like it was about two.
250, 300 yards down slope.
And I thought, I don't know what to do, but times, daylight's burning, I'm going to leave.
And so I was.
I was just going to keep falling the trail.
And then I hear two more.
Fuck, fuck.
And they're from the same relative positions.
I was like, okay, you know what?
I haven't seen anything.
This sounds weird.
Let's go see what's going on.
And at this point, I was just,
just thinking, if these are people, what would they be doing down there? This doesn't sound like
someone cutting wood. It just sounds like someone taking a big, big chunk of wood and just whacking it
on a tree. I'm like, this doesn't make any sense. But, all right, let's go find out what it is.
I'm bored. So I start going down the slope. And like I said, it would go in steps. So slope down and
then hit a little bit of grass.
In that first little patch, I actually saw elk sign.
It was a little bit old, but it was there.
And I stopped because I'm trying to listen for additional sounds.
I'm looking down there to see if there's movement.
And it's just still, absolutely still calm day.
The only day up there that was even remotely like that, hardly even a blaze.
of grass was moving.
And I went through that same thought process.
What the heck is this?
I should probably just turn around and go back up slope.
So probably five minutes went by because I'm looking and listening and then whack.
I hear it again.
So now I'm like, okay, now I have to go figure out what's doing this.
So my brain switched from, this might be a person down there doing who knows what to
I don't know what type of animal I've hunted in the Pacific Northwest my whole life.
What animal could do that, but I thought that's the only thing that makes sense at this point.
I can't imagine a person somehow getting up on this mountain, not being visible to us on the only road,
which we were at the terminal point of that road.
And what would they be doing down there doing something like that?
It just didn't make sense.
So I'm going through animals, maybe a bearer.
There's messing with a log.
Maybe something's kicking a tree.
Whatever, I'm going to find out.
So I start walking down again.
And I'm stopping frequently.
I had gone into stalking mode.
So I'm walking very quietly.
Try not to even break the crust on the snow,
that little skiff of snow too much.
And listening, I hear nothing.
The wind's not blowing.
I started thinking maybe it's a tree
that's bumping into another tree, but I would stop and look, and a slight breeze, maybe five-mile-an-hour
breeze would come up, but hardly enough to even wiggle, like I said, grass. So, okay, that's weird.
That's not it. But I'm not hearing anything, so I'm like, I, once again, maybe I should just turn
around, forget this happened, and come back tomorrow. And then I get another single knock.
Okay, whatever it is, it's still down there, doing whatever it's doing.
I'm going.
And this repeats itself again, and I get a third knock.
And I'm repeating the same process.
I started moving so quietly and slowly because I wanted,
I started getting this weird feeling that these knocks were only coming when I was stopped.
And that didn't make any sense, but I wasn't hearing them while I was walking.
once again, this whole distance was about 250, maybe 300 yards.
And this whole time me closing on where I thought the sound was coming from ended up being
about 50 minutes.
So you can see that I wasn't rushing and bashing through trees and obscuring any sound.
I'm listening.
And I never got, I never heard that sound until I had been stopped for minutes.
and then I would get a single sound and that would keep me going.
And by the time I had gotten the fourth knock and it once again just repeated itself like that whole pattern,
I was now getting down off the slope and into level ground towards that grassy area.
And now I'm probably 50, 50, 60 yards out from this grassy area.
And at the end of it was basically a wall of young trees of different height.
And as I got, I heard that last single fourth knock,
it really sounded to me like it was coming from somewhere behind that screen of trees.
Okay, it's totally obscured for me.
What's behind there's obscured.
I'm like, okay, right.
I guess I'm going to have to go right up to it and figure out what this is somehow.
I'm level.
I'm walking.
And to my right,
there's this little,
I describe it as a long half pipe in the ground.
It's just,
if it was runoff,
boy,
it cut a nice smooth little gulch there.
But I knew that in order to get into this clearing,
I'd have to cross that.
And once I crossed that,
all the trees that I thought I was using as cover,
there was intermittent trees that I was trying to move behind a little bit because my thinking is,
oh, I'm going to sneak up on some animal doing something weird, so let's be quiet and see what it's doing
and how it's making that sound.
And I'm getting closer, and when I reach the edge of that little dip in the ground, I stop and go,
okay, once you cross this, you are now in the clearing and you're out in the wide open.
So if something's back there, it can possibly see you.
So I'm just okay, getting ready.
I had my rifle to my knot up, but it a little ready.
So buttstock in my shoulder, muzzle down towards the ground.
And I take a deep breath.
I'm like, all right, here we go.
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And, but loud, deep, not like a stick cracking against a tree, but the same deep, thick sounding knocks, but just like rapid knocks.
fire. And I just was like, what the heck is going on here? And I'm like, okay. And I remember saying
this in my head. I'm like, it's definitely behind those trees because that's where that sound came from.
And so I'm like, all right. Oh, boy. And now I'm getting a little nervous because I'm like,
I can't see into those trees. So maybe I should skirt out into this clearing and work my way around.
Trees went in a, imagine a capital J and I was below the foot of the J.
And the trees parked around.
And I thought, okay, I'll loop around and just keep some distance from these trees
in case some animal comes barreling out at me.
So take a deep breath, get the rifle steady, once you get not pointing it,
those rules of gun safety.
I've been handling guns since I was four.
I didn't have a target.
I didn't know what was back there.
I'm not going to point my firearm at anything.
Take a deep breath, and I step out into the open,
and it was like I made it maybe two, three steps.
And this thing, I tried describing it to someone else.
It was like having a bomb go off right in front of me.
This thing, I don't know what it was swinging,
but it must have been picked up a small tree and just the force and violence behind this was
just a kaboom it just smashed into i don't know it it floored me i literally if someone could
have caught me on video i just stumbled backwards almost tripped and fell over i've got all my gear
on my back my rifle slung in and i just staggered back in shock
and I look up and it all all I could see was the chest up and it let me tell you when I told this I didn't
tell my wife this for a year I even told a YouTube channel about this but I left out this part
because I could I'll tell you what happened afterwards but it'll explain it I when I look
up because I staggered back. I'm looking at my feet tripping over grass. And all I can see is this
massive shoulders, neck, head. And this thing's just standing squared off to me, just looking down
at me, what people would say, looking down your nose. And this is how I told people this story.
I heard this massive explosive smash and then it's like film reels of my brain got cut out.
And I don't remember what happened except for what I did next, which was, I see this thing.
Maybe for 1001, 1002, maybe three, probably not, more like two seconds.
And I get off the X.
looking right at me, I take a
diagonal out into the middle
of that clearing, then
I bring my rifle up
to my shoulder
and I
start backing out.
Rifle pointed right at that tree.
I had the scope at one power.
I was hunting with an AR-10,
you know, chamber in 308.
And I'm backing up and
every single
fiber of my being is just
screaming to run.
I knew not to do that.
But there's this other, this is what
chokes me up is
there's that part of me, this
an experience hunter that says,
don't run, don't turn your back on it.
The other part is like this
little kid sitting in a
corner in a ball
going, this gun's not going to be
enough. You're not going to be able to
stop it before it gets you.
And when I told that to
someone else, they said, yeah, that's
the fear talking. That's a
308's a powerful rifle. You're hunting elk
with it, right? And I'm like, I know the capability
of that round. That's what
scares me.
Is, I could kill it.
I was talking about stopping
it, not killing it.
Like a bear charge. You can
kill it, but then it's got a whole minute
to kill you. I meant
stop it. Whether
that meant it died right instantly
or it died
30 minutes later.
I wasn't sure if maybe if I got all town 10 rounds in that mag into it and then switched
mags which I had a spare on my belt maybe that would have but at this point we're 35 yards apart
and I'm backing up so I'm creating distance as what I'm trying to say that was the part of my brain
that I didn't think about any of that I trained with firearms a lot and done some of that stuff so
I'm just thinking I need distance because if it comes barreling out of those trees at me,
I need time to get rounds on it, enough rounds hopefully to stop it.
But there's that little part, there's that little kid in terror just going,
it's not going to work, it's not going to be enough gun.
And right when I'm just at that breaking point,
I make a decision that I do need distance and I need to create it quickly,
but I can't just turn my back and run.
So I made the decision.
As I'm backing up, I'm going to turn.
I'm going to lunge like three steps.
How many yards that is?
I'm going to lunge and then I'm going to pivot back, bring my rifle up, back,
and then rinse and repeat until I got to the mountain slope.
Just enough time to create a gap but not turn my back.
long enough that if it comes out that I'm not going to be just have this thing on me and it got to
the slope and just man I just I went as hard as I physically could I thank God I trained so hard for
these hunts because this I just went straight up just crashing through stuff but I still told myself
you have to stop let's double the distance whatever that is double what you thought you were doing
and the clearing, every 20 feet or so, pivot.
Put that rifle down range to make sure it's not right on your butt and coming.
I did that repeatedly up this mountain.
Probably took me about half an hour to get up to the top.
And when I saw that road, man,
I just saw this weird flat spot in front of me
as my nose is almost touching the slope in front of me.
And it was the road.
and I hit that road, went crashing into the embankment on the other side, pivoted,
put the rifle between my legs, and just sat there, just waiting for this head to,
this huge head to come popping up over the edge of the road and just,
and I, it didn't, and I never heard a single sound ever again after that.
I was so, I was so shook up.
I was less than a quarter mile from our truck.
and I didn't, I couldn't figure out what to do.
And I looked down in the, the snow that was left, and I saw my dad's boot prints from the day before.
I'm 40, at the time was 40 years old.
And I'd still, hey, dad, dad got me out of here.
I followed his bootsteps back to camp, got in my truck, grabbed the large revolver I normally carry in bear country,
stuffed my AR-10 in the passenger side and just broke down.
I couldn't start my truck.
I was shaking so badly.
Just tears and snot and everything running into my beard.
I was just, I finally got the truck started and turned the heat on because I was shaking so badly.
I thought I was going into shock.
And I just sat there.
And I feel like a coward waited for my discharging.
my way to tell my dad got back to camp and we ate dinner i didn't say a word he he probably thought i was
this tired grumpy and went to sleep and i i stayed up all night in my truck holding that revolver
with the the rifle nearby just i don't know waiting to see if he would this thing would show up
and by morning i was so exhausted i was then angry and i was like you know what this i'm going to
strap on this revolver get my spare moon clip
grab my 10 millimeter, put that on my hip, grab extra mags.
I'm going to go back down there.
I wasn't, it was just stupid.
That lasted about 30 seconds.
And then we ate breakfast and my dad asked me,
he said, how was it down that slope yesterday?
I said, ah, it's not worth it.
It's not worth the time.
He said, all right, let's just follow this ridgeline.
And we stuck to the ridge line and I stayed out there,
another nine, eight, nine days.
Didn't say a word, you know, to anybody for a long time,
other than telling the story minus what I saw.
It wasn't until much later.
I didn't know what was going on in my brain,
why I could tell this story, why I would talk about it.
I work in the medical field,
but I don't understand that trauma and psych stuff.
I just didn't realize what was going on until, you know, nightmares, just daytime.
I'd be out working in the yard and just something would spark my memory.
And I would just, tears would just start running out of my eyes and start shaking.
And it just mess.
And like I said, I didn't tell my wife, I started drinking more just to get to sleep, just shut down.
Not all the time, but enough.
And she told me much later.
She said one night when I asked you, when you told me you didn't think you could kill it.
And I asked you, what did you see?
And you started telling me.
And then you stopped and said, nope, I didn't see anything.
I didn't see anything.
And then a year later, almost to the day, we're walking around looking at Halloween decorations in our neighborhood.
And someone had one of those 10-foot-tall skeletons out there in their yard.
and we were looking.
I said, that's about how tall that thing was.
And she looked at me and she goes, wait, what do you?
She's like, that is, that's what you saw.
I said, I didn't see a 10 foot tall skeleton.
I said, but it was about that tall.
And she just looked at me like, what is wrong with you?
Why didn't you tell me this before?
And I said, I literally couldn't.
I could not get it out.
I was, maybe my conscious brain was afraid of even,
talking to people who have YouTube channels that talk about Sasquatch that it's all just a farce
and I'm just going to be made fun of and ridiculed. And the other part was deeper than that.
It was like, if you say out loud what you saw, now it really does exist. And you have to accept
that that you've been out in the woods by yourself hunting for the most part your entire life.
And this is there.
And it took just a lot of therapy and time and, you know, quit any, you know, the alcohol thing.
You got that out.
That wasn't helping anything one bit.
And yeah, that's most of it.
And to this day, I wasn't a Sasquatch guy before I had listened to Wes Germer show a bit before just because it happened to cross my feed.
But which was ironic because I didn't have any other Sasquatch stuff.
It was actually a probably linked to a show that debunks this type of thing.
I was into that stuff when I was a kid, but the Loch Ness monster was my jam because I love sharks.
So anything in the water was pretty cool.
And I grew up in the Pacific Northwest.
I would have seen a Sasquatch by now.
But yeah, I don't know what else to say.
I've got a look at it.
The thing that got me was I don't understand the size of this thing.
Don't think I'm exaggerating when I say 10 foot.
because we were both on level ground.
And I'd been staring at these trees a while.
And in relation to me, I had a rough approximation that they were, you know, seven, eight foot.
And this thing's chest, what chest up was above some of these trees that it was standing in.
But just the size, the only way I guess I could compare it is if you've ever seen a Cape Buffalo or something like that,
They're just a massive animal.
I'm not saying this thing look like a bodybuilder or anything.
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It was just a wall of meat and bone and hair.
It was just so big.
When it was standing obviously on two legs and glaring at me, I,
the only thing I could see of its face, and once again, I didn't look at it very long.
I deliberately, I glanced and saw it and got this,
broad picture of it. I was not going to look that thing in the eyes. And like I said, I got out of its
line of sight and into that meadow as quick as I could. But its skin, if that's what it was,
its skin must have been black because I could just see a strip where I guess the nose is and most of
the forehead. And then it just had like a beard and mustache, you know, fully just like a bearded dude all the
the way up to his cheekbones. The hair came down pretty far in its brow, so it wasn't a high
forehead. But that's all I saw. I didn't see eyes. I didn't see lips. I tried not to fill in
details and exaggerate. It was just like this black tea, big beard hair. Its hair wasn't long and
shaggy. It looked dense, but not very long. And the coloration, I guess the only way I could
compared is if you look at some older pine trees where they start to have a lot of grays in them,
I guess that would be the predominant color gray, but with browns and charcoal colors, it was strange.
But it was. It was like looking at a tree where there's a predominant color,
but there's some other shades that are so subtly blended in that it almost, you question like,
okay, what color would I say that is?
He never made a sound.
I usually say E because I could see most of the chest and it was just flat.
But that's about it for that.
Dan, that's a wild, wild account.
Probably one of the more intense ones that I have heard.
I can definitely see how it would have taken you a long time to get to the point to share that.
with people for sure.
Is it okay if I ask you some questions about that experience?
Of course, yeah.
All right.
So you mentioned already that there were parts of it that you didn't look at for certain reasons.
Are there details of the face that you were able to remember?
I know you didn't look into the eyes.
Yeah.
And I don't think I could have seen the eyes anyways.
I don't know if it was just heavy browed or recess sockets,
but it gets more or less look like just a massive human head.
I could see the whole profile of it because it was in,
I guess the reason I could tell you the color is it was in such contrast
to all those beautiful green young trees that it was standing in.
The profile, as far as the head, didn't look.
particularly conical. It just looked like a big human head covered in hair and a beard and mustache
and just all the way up to his cheekbones. And I thought about it, you know, people, I've listened to
obviously your podcast and some other ones now and talking about the nose profile. I couldn't
get that any real good profile, but it didn't seem overly broad, if that makes it.
sense just because that strip that I assumed was its black skin nose was didn't look like it
was spread out across fairly narrow as far as I told Brian King Sharp I told them it looked like
looking into a Spartan helmet where you have the eyes cut out and then with that vertical line
where the cheat guards come together that's about what was it was exposed on it other than
his mouth was beard, full beard. It's cold up there, so he was getting ready for winter.
The warmest daytime temp, I think, was 33. And that was that day. The rest of the time, it was about 24 during the day and about 14 at night.
So pretty chilly. But like I said, the size, though, that's, that probably is what broke my brain more than seeing something that had a human profile, just all of a sudden standing there in front of me.
It just didn't make any sense how big it was.
And the breadth of its shoulders,
I looked at my three-quarter-ton pickup when I got,
when I was aware enough to look at that.
I'm like, this thing's shoulders are as wide as my tailgate.
If not, I don't, if it was standing in front of my truck,
I don't, it might overlap the hood as far as the width of its shoulders
and just so big and,
just dense looking like i compared it to a cape buffalo it just looked like so much mass just right
from that just that chest up it's it just seemed preposterous and and that's why my brain was going
i don't know if this gun is going to be enough to stop it to break it down so it can't keep running
and get me because that's what i would have been going for just like if a grizzly charges
yeah, hopefully you can get a headshot and shut it down right away.
But the other option is you break its bone structure with big heavy bullets.
And 308 is not a big heavy bullet.
And I don't know how thick this thing was, but it just seemed, this is all happening in an instant.
And yes, I wasn't scared.
This was stark terror.
It's the only time my life, I thought Wildland Firefire growing up and have almost gotten
burned over and not once was I in terror. Yeah, maybe a little bit of adrenaline, but training
kicks in. This was just the only thing that got me through that was I'd had the opportunity to
train a lot. I'm not military. I'm not trying to be military or tactical, but I have trained
with guys and done the whole shoot and scoot and fire and maneuver, just mainly for fun. I enjoy firearms.
and when you can get out and do that with some buddies and just have a good time and just forget about everything else,
but came in handy because I don't, I would have either stood there and then he would have decided,
that last knock or whatever you want to call it was obviously you need to leave.
And for it to show itself, and like I said, it was a guy in a bar puffed up and just,
looking down at you, some big dude, like, you need to get out of here. And I did. And
maybe that's all it wanted. And it didn't come after me. No vocalizations, no further
wood knocks. It was just over once I made that break for it. Never heard or saw anything the
rest of the hunt. And I actually went back up there, not to that mountain, but the
same area is actually as far as the crow flies i was probably i went back to the following weekend
because i i still had some time i we didn't get in any elk and my dad had to go back home so i just
jumped across the border again by myself got there at nine o'clock at night on the mountain and made
base camp and but not on that ridge and i never heard it i hunted for another three days by
myself in the lower areas below that mountain. I never heard or saw anything again as far as that goes.
So to me, that feels like you are almost in an area that you are not supposed to be. And it's just
making sure that you didn't get any closer to whatever was going on in that area. That's what I'm
taking from that so far. Yeah. The thing.
that's always hung me up is
why did it
keep knocking
when if it had stopped
I was leaving
why did it keep knocking
when I stopped and was hesitating
about going further
you know what I sent an email to someone
who's actually an ex-girlfriend
and I said
I just got out I just survived
in ambush
because that's when I was stumbling back on the road,
I wasn't thinking of anything,
but when I got in my truck and was finally felt somewhat safe,
that's the one thing that went through my brain is this was a perfect kill zone.
It was a funnel, trees on all sides,
except for that opening of grass.
If I was a hunter, I would have been in those trees watching that meadow.
Why didn't it just let me walk away?
if it had stopped making those knocks,
or maybe it was a different one,
I don't know,
that's what's hung me up to this day,
and a lot of people say,
oh, they wouldn't do that,
and they're not out to get you.
And I was like,
I'm not,
if it was,
it would have had me,
but what was it doing?
Was this just,
I don't think it's coincidence
because if I had stopped
and heard a knock once or twice,
sure,
but four times.
And only,
when I stopped, I wasn't just standing there for a couple seconds.
It could be five minutes, maybe a little bit more.
And then only when I'm like, ah, this might not be worth my time.
Fuck, I hear it.
And it kept me going.
It still could be a coincidence.
I'm not trying to make anything of it.
That's just what my brain came to was I got lured into an ambush point and let go.
I don't think if that's the case
I don't think it had anything to do with me as a person
I just happen to be a lone hunter
out there
and maybe they're like hey let's see if we can take a chance
with this one he's by himself
or not
that's just an idea
none of us know
I don't even know when I was there
it's tricky because it would have been a different story
if you were an elk
is that what they were waiting for
is an elk to come down.
There's all these things we don't know.
Yeah.
But from what you remember and from what you were able to see,
how would you categorize what you saw?
Would it be something maybe more human-looking or ape-looking or just something that's
not even in those two categories?
I would lean more towards that.
Not in either one.
Yeah, sure, a humanoid shape as far as bipedal, shoulders, head, that's it.
Even comparing it to a great ape, like a gorilla or chimp or something, it just didn't, it didn't make any, it doesn't, it just doesn't make any sense.
They're not like, they're not that big and square shouldered and thick, like, it just, yeah, it's hard.
It's hard to even categorize it at all other than, hey, it, yeah, it had a human shaped upper torso, and I guess it was covered in hair.
So I guess you could say that's like an eight, but that's it.
You could say a hyena looks like a dog, and it's not.
It looks a lot like one, so I don't know.
And just to clarify, you'd said that you only saw things chest and up, right?
Yeah, yeah, it was these trees were so intermingled.
They were pushing out from the main forest into that clearing,
and so there was a lot of younger ones interlating.
and so it was really dense.
That's what it was worrying me is I couldn't see anywhere.
You couldn't see anything within that grove at trees at all past.
So I don't know if it must have, if it was crouched or behind them and came forward a little bit.
I think it must have been crouched.
I don't know.
Do you remember, was there a smell around at that time?
were there any sounds in the forest around that time?
No, it was pretty quiet.
Yeah.
So interesting.
Did you ever, so this is after this all took place,
did you ever look into that area to see if there had been any other reported things happening related?
No.
I was done.
Wow.
I wanted, like I said, this is later once I finally, this therapist who was a combat vet was the one who got me on the right track and said,
because I couldn't even spit it out to him.
And he said, look, here's what I want you to do.
Write it all down.
The full story from when you left your house, I don't care if it takes you two months to write this, write every detail, put everything down, include what you're not wanting to tell me.
And when I did that, it was like, okay, it took me about a week of setting that thing aside before I could describe that scene on paper.
And then after that, I could talk about it, but, well, tell my wife at least.
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But no, I was like, I don't want anything to do with this.
I'm done.
And I swore that day, I was like, I'm never going hunting again.
I'm not even all set foot in a city park.
That's it.
I'm not why that's running around.
But once again, for some reason, I went back the weekend after by myself at night.
Yeah, so no, I don't.
I apologize.
I didn't look into anything.
So the therapist, then, I would guess, read all what you wrote,
down. No. Really? Okay. He said when you're done, I want you to go, I want you to go burn it.
Wow. If you can, where this happened. And I haven't made it back there yet.
So you still have that paper intact? I do, yeah. Is that something you think of where you think
you'll ever go back to that area and burn it or maybe not so much?
Yeah, I think I will.
Plus, I've had more time to think about it.
I don't know.
I went the following year, spent two and a half weeks in the Frank Church wilderness.
Didn't bother me one bit.
I was up there by myself for days.
My dad had to go back home to help my mom, and that was fine.
No problems.
Yeah.
I just might.
You mentioned that this really affected you afterwards.
You started to have dreams as well, you said?
Yeah, those night terrors.
Okay.
The worst, though, which is fine, I dealt with that stuff before,
sleep paralysis and all that.
I've had that really bad for over a decade.
But the worst part was just being awake and it's the middle of the day.
Once again, this happened at 1 o'clock in the afternoon,
so it brought daylight.
I could just be all safe here in our home and just this just wave of, I don't know what would come over me, and I would just start shaking and just involuntarily crying and just have to just do something.
Yeah, I had no idea what was going on in my brain until it, you know, went south a little bit more.
I just couldn't process it, and I obviously wasn't talking about it.
Other than I could tell the rest of the story.
It sounded good.
It sounded almost like a cool hunting story where something weird happened.
And I think that's what I was trying to do, and my brain is build up.
If I tell a few people minus what I saw because they'll think I'm crazy,
and I will have to acknowledge what happened, let's just tell the rest of it.
I heard these crazy knocks and who knows what happened.
And yeah, it was fun.
right but in the meantime it's just this ball of whatever just getting compressed tighter and tighter in me and um yeah it is just something else
during the dreams were there any times when it felt like there was something trying to communicate to you at all no i would either
I would catch a sleep paralysis moment of this just hulking black figure coming through the door,
or I would just wake up already sobbing and not know why.
I just feel scared, like a little kid, just scared.
And I'd just get out of bed and leave the bedroom.
And I don't even remember, Moith, the dreams, really.
It was just that waking up and stark care for no reason, just peer panic already.
fight or flight out of a dead sleep.
Have you experienced other things, other strange things before this event, or was this
the first time in your life where you've experienced something that was just out of the ordinary?
Oh boy, you'd have to ask that question.
I haven't told anybody this.
I don't know if I should tell you, but all right.
Before that happened, I totally forgot.
about this even just because it was like whatever this is weird had no correlate i think this the
event of that day wiped it out but the first or second night on that mountain we're sleeping in
our trucks and it's just pitch black and dark and i hear up this low this sound that is so low
pitched that it hurts my ears and i'd blown my eardrums out a few times shooting firearms and
But it just hurt.
And I could literally, it's like I couldn't hear it, but I could put my hand against my truck.
And this is up on this remote black mountain top with really not much of a road.
And nothing else around us south of us.
There's not trails.
There's nothing.
It's just national forest wilderness, like awful terrain.
And the sound, I started physically hurt my ear.
And I was like, I need to go to sleep.
what is doing this? So I was trying to mash my ears against my sleeping bag. And it just kept going.
And I started listening to it. I'm like, this has a rhythm to it. What is going on here? And it was,
I would look at my watch and I could time the peaks and valleys. It was very almost in its repetition
mechanical, but it was so low that it just, it really hurt my ears. At one point, I even rolled the window down,
put my phone out with a voice recorder,
because I'm like, I got to catch whatever this is.
I brought it back in and turned it on.
I turned it, I checked it then.
I couldn't hear anything because of that weird sound,
but later on, I played it and no sound came out,
but the peaks and valleys, the jumps,
and just the timing of those reverberations showed on my phone
on the voice recorder.
And this kept half, this went on for over an hour,
and a half and at one point this small plane and this is the middle of the night comes fly comes over
really low and i was so tired and getting a little i don't know like worried i'm like this is
really bizarre this sounds like it's coming from one exact direction which was west of me because i
could plug my ear facing it and hear nothing but then when i took it away and i faced that direction
And I could just feel that kind of someone has base in their car and their blocks away.
But this plane came over and I thought, oh, maybe that'll make it shut up.
I was so tired and exhausted anyways.
And sure enough, this plane comes over pretty darn low and the sound stops.
And I'm like, oh, thank goodness.
And 10 minutes goes by and I'm like, oh, I'm falling asleep.
And then it starts back up, but quick.
the beat is quicker.
Just this deep hum
and it just starts picking up pace
and I'm like, oh no.
And it's scary
because there's nothing else around.
I'm like, what is making?
This is so bizarre.
And I got out of my truck once.
I flipped from scared to Matt again.
I got out of my truck and I'm like,
all right, if something's going to kill me right now
or come out of the woods.
and I could still hear it, and it was coming from one direction, obvious, just based on how I turned, you can triangulate that sound.
And in the morning, I didn't really sleep all night.
We got up about 4 o'clock, and my dad crawled out of his truck, and I said, how did you sleep last night with that sound?
And he said, what are you talking about?
And I said, that, like, super deep, vibrating weird bass sound that went on for a 2 plus, you know, over 2.
two hours. You didn't feel or hear that. He's like, hearing's not so good anymore. So,
nope. I went, okay, that's weird. And then went about our day and never really thought much of it
again. Did it affect you in any other parts beside your ears? No. Okay. That is really weird.
Yeah. And I was like, maybe it's a, I don't know, some distant,
mining operation or something.
We're up in the woods.
Maybe it is something mechanical and just by the nature of how sound carries.
And crisp, high, cold air, I don't know.
But that was weird.
It's funny you asked that because I mentioned that to my kid the other day.
And of course, he had all kinds of speculation and thoughts about it.
Yeah, there's all sorts of stuff.
Could it be an infrasound thing?
hard to say did you ever experience any strange lights when you're up there no and did you hear any
other sounds that just did not seem to fit the area that you were in no other than that
running into a monster-sized Sasquatch the rest of the hunt was pretty chill got a had a moose
break cover right in front of me almost run me over and oh wow
yeah there's lots of food up there there's more i saw more moose in that location i have my whole life
and that that alone is a good piece of information too because that's a huge food source
and if you're saying there's tons of it up there there's another um piece of evidence could
yeah these creatures could definitely be sustained in that region due to the huge food source
besides the fact that you saw it with your two eyes, which is, that's number one piece of evidence right there.
Yeah, there's lots of food, lots of protein up there. There's wolf. I ran into some wolf. There's
black and grizzly bear, a lot of white tail. I saw a few mulees, the moose. I just couldn't
believe how much not only moose signed, but having them just run across the roads. That was lower down.
we had dropped off of that mountain
after, coincidentally,
the day after the day after that happened,
we primarily hunted low because,
well, A, I was happy to,
I didn't say anything,
but there was no,
there just wasn't enough animals up there
at that time of year.
But no, pretty,
pretty mellow outside that.
Do you still have that audio
re-recorded that night?
I don't think I do.
Other than it,
had those perfectly timed blips and no audible sound to it.
I was just like, what am I going to do with this?
That was weird.
I just wrote it all off as, I don't know.
Did you record any audio or video during the time of the encounter
or in the same time of day?
No, I probably have some pictures, random things, but no.
Usually just I don't even carry my cell phone with me.
There's no reception up there.
So you didn't have a cell phone with you at the time of the encounter?
Oh, no.
It was in my truck, yeah.
Okay.
Interesting.
It's, A, I'll probably break it if I carry it with me.
And, too, it's just, yeah, I guess other than pictures, it's worthless up there.
Did you have any other electronics with you?
Not on my person.
That's interesting.
I did.
I take that back.
My dad and I carry two-way radios.
Sure.
But I probably had that turned all the way down.
I'm pretty sure I did.
If one of us suspects there's an animal close
and we need to go into kind of stalking mode
where we'll shut them down.
Gotcha.
Yeah, makes sense.
So back to a previous question,
let's say before this hunting expedition,
in your life, were there any other strange things that you experienced besides all of this?
I've had some odd occurrences hunting that even then, this is way before that happened,
that I still thought it was weird.
Do you want me to describe that at all?
So sometimes it can be interesting, there can be connections that come up between the two.
Yeah, if it's something you feel comfortable sharing.
Oh, sir, nothing paranormal.
I admit up until this point, complete skeptic and all this is a kid,
I would have loved if Sasquatch was real, but as I got to an adult, I'm like a lot of
hunters, there are people that spend a lot of time in the outdoors.
I would have seen one by now, at the very least.
Of course, then you go back into areas like Montana, Idaho, Wyoming,
and you see how much untouched territory and you could easily go,
easily go, no, there's lots of things that could live out here and never be seen by a human.
Humans don't even go to some of these places that I've looked at glass from a ridge line.
Humans don't go over here.
Right.
But I was in one of those areas in the Frank Church.
I'd been tracking a, tailing a herd of elk since before daylight.
I'd cut their sign early, had a headlamp on.
My dad said he had seen some fresh track and thought.
it'd be a good place for me to go.
And so I cut their track pretty early and followed them up this ridgeline and just kept going probably five plus miles.
And I got to this bench where the ridge line went from just a goat trail that I could only stand on to this wide bench.
And a burn had, a fire had gone through.
So all the trees were burned.
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They were still standing but just dead skeletons,
and there was a little bit of grass in there.
But I followed the herd's tracks in there,
and there's just no cover.
So I'm like, if they're at the end, I can see them,
and they can see me, and I can't see them.
So I'll just keep following their sign
and maybe catch up to them.
I'd been tailing them all day.
And I get there about to the middle of this bench,
and it's just, it was eerily quiet.
Just no wind.
no bugs, no birds. It's just dead silent. I'm in this ghost yard of dead trees. It was just creepy.
But I got about halfway in and that hurt, it just literally button hooked on me and went back the way we had come and dove off the ridge down into this just ravine of trees and awfulness.
And I'm like, that's it for them. I'm not going after them down there.
and so I stopped behind this down tree that I sat behind the root bolt so I could have some shade and
I'm just eating and just looking around I'm like this is really quite this is bizarre this is
really quiet I haven't seen a you think you'd see a bird those trees are full of bugs
and it just got that prickly on the back of my neck feel and I'm like okay I can see halfway
one way down this
across this ridge,
but what's behind me?
Because my back is to this huge
down tree.
And I just grabbed my rifle
and pivoted around
just expecting to see
like a cat
or something sneaking up on me.
And there was nothing, of course.
But I just got up,
got my gear on and was like,
I'm leaving this place.
This doesn't feel right.
That hasn't,
happened to me really any other time. I've had close encounters with bear, some little too close,
and that's just what it is, bear or bear. This was one of those few times. I think something's
stalking me and I can't see it. So I'm just going to back away and call it good.
That is very interesting for sure. Yeah, that was a bad, yeah, that was a bad feeling.
Britain never had anything like that again.
So I don't know if that means anything at all.
It was just, it was a weird thing, and I thought about it later.
Would you ever want to see or experience what you experienced that day again?
No.
Nope.
And why is that?
I don't think I would gain anything from it.
I've seen it.
I know they're real.
I just, I don't think it would serve anything.
I'd be fascinated to see what their anatomy is laid out on a slab.
Not that I'm saying we should go out and kill them.
I'm just saying I've been in the medical field my whole adult life.
It'd be fascinating to see how they're structured and other than being scared out of your mind,
have some time to really look at them.
But outside of that type of scenario,
No, I don't want much to do with them.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Dan, this has been a really interesting conversation.
I'm glad that you reached out to me.
Thank you for doing that.
Oh, thank you.
The good thing about this, and sometimes it's not this,
but sometimes encounters like this make it so the person never go in the woods again.
And it sounds like you're at the point where you're.
okay with going in the woods?
I am. As much
as I don't really want to
have anything to do with them and that's fine
they probably don't with me either. Who is aware
before? Because there are
other things out there that can kill you and
treat you like a snack but
I just
yeah, if I hear
strange knocking sounds in the woods, I'm
not going to go towards them again
like an idiot going
what's this? This is pretty cool.
let's figure out what this is.
I'll probably leave that alone.
Jeremiah, I apologize,
but there's one thing I didn't say about
why I thought it may have actually been trying to draw me in,
but got really pissed off at the end,
is my rifle,
I was camoed head to toe.
The only thing you could see on me was my eyes.
The rest was camouflage, everything.
And that includes my rifle.
So with that right,
rifle held up against my torso, it doesn't, it looks like my jacket. So I actually, I wondered,
was it, hey, what's this guy doing by himself? Let's get him a little closer. And once I got
close enough, and it could clearly see this was a weapon and not just part of my body, that's when I came
into the open and I had the rifle at low ready so not just held you know vertical with my body but away
that's when those five rapid fire knocks came and when I decided to ignore that which in retrospect was
ridiculous there it was very clear something was not happy with me right and I kept advancing
maybe that's when it's like all right enough is enough this guy's got a gun or I
Right. Fund's over. We don't want to get shot. But if he's going to keep coming, let's square off and show him who's boss.
Absolutely. That's just one of those things.
How do you feel about people that it's a weekend, let's go into the woods trying to find the Bigfoot and knock on trees and all that good stuff?
Do you have any feeling towards people like that or advice or?
No, I don't have any.
I guess I just have no comment.
That's fine if you want to do that.
I won't.
I won't do it.
But no, I'm the last one to ask advice.
I walked right towards Woodnox
until this thing had to get mad enough to show me off.
I guess I could have looked at it longer,
but that's that whole instinctual.
Don't look another predator in the eye and square off with it.
otherwise that works with a mountain lion or a black bear they can be pretty easily intimidated
but not something like that he was clearly the one trying to do the intimidating and it worked
so no i just hope people are safe i it just seems like it i mean my whole part of my whole problem
with this whole thing is i don't know what its intentions were and what
what those knocks meant until the end, that was pretty clear.
You need to leave.
So that would make me very nervous to go out and do that and not know what you're saying to them.
Does that make sense?
Exactly.
I've heard other people say that.
But yeah, to each their own, just be safe.
That's right.
I'm glad people are getting out in the woods.
That's a, that's my hope for everybody.
absolutely just be careful i didn't want this i didn't ask for it i had no thought in my brain that
i would this would ever happen to me like i said it just wasn't a thing to my brain i guess
that's why i could i walked towards the noxes i'm like okay it don't think it's a human out
doing this and i don't know of any animals in north america that can do this let's go figure
out what it is but at no point was it like oh this might be a saskatch i didn't i didn't i
I wasn't versed enough in that they do knocking sounds and other stuff like that until I started listening to more podcasts.
Dan, did you have any questions for me that didn't come up during recording?
You actually asked me some of the questions I would have asked, so no, I really appreciate that.
Awesome.
If there's anything that if you ever need help with this in the future, feel free to reach out.
Definitely that's the main reason that I do stuff like this, try to help people work through stuff.
But yeah, Dan, thank you so much for taking some time to share what you experienced up there in northern Idaho.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
Thank you for your time.
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