Bigfoot Society - Baby Cries in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, we sit down with Erin and her husband Jack, who share unsettling experiences from the southwest part of Michigan's Upper Peninsula. Erin recounts a night of photogr...aphing the Northern Lights when she heard a mysterious baby crying followed by uncanny wood knocks. Jack also shares his own encounter from the 1980s involving a loud, inexplicable baby cry in the remote woods. Their stories contribute to ongoing discussions about strange phenomena in this region. Resources:https://www.sasquatchdataproject.com/blog/statistical-moon-illumination🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: bigfootsociety@gmail.comWant to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:02:36 Well, there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members-only episode every single week on Wednesdays and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society. And now let's get on with the show. I pickfoot society. We've got the privilege of talking to Aaron tonight. Aaron's from the southwest part of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.
Starting point is 00:03:02 And she's a listener that reached out to me through email about some interesting things that happened around her area that she realized the significance of after she heard it mentioned in a episode of the podcast. her husband, Jack, will also be sharing some things as well in the second part of the interview. So welcome to the show today, Erin. Thanks, Jeremiah. It's nice to talk to you. Absolutely. And likewise. And you know what, Aaron, I'm going to go ahead and have you take the mic and share what's been happening around your house in the last few years. No problem. I have lived in Upper Peninsula a couple years now. My husband, he grew up here. It's a pretty quiet area, a small little town, not much action, thankfully.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Fortunately, you don't really have too much experience in the Upper Peninsula besides just living here recently, besides visiting about a decade or so on and off. But it's just me and my husband, and we like to try to catch the northern lights when they're available. Obviously, it's a hit and mess kind of thing. We try to get out there at night whenever you think it's going to happen. With space weather forecasts, you usually don't get no more than about 72 hours notice, unfortunately, when it happens. And beginning of August, I think it was like the evening of the 11th, early morning of the 12th, we had known that there was going to be a spike in our activity. We went outside to go look and take pictures.
Starting point is 00:04:51 as we usually do. And it was about 2 a.m. or so, maybe a little later. And it was the calm night, it was August. And the lights were put on a pretty good show, so we were staying out a little longer. And everything was pretty quiet as it is around here. You might hear some logging trucks at night, maybe a cop car, but there's not much traffic or anything.
Starting point is 00:05:21 It's such a small town. And we just were doing our thing, and we used a long exposure. And you take pictures of the Northern Lights, so you stand around waiting for exposure to take. I just started to hear this. It sounded really upset, Jeremiah. Like, it needed help. It was really disconcerning to first hear, and I looked at my husband, and he said, Oh, it's just 2.30 in the morning.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I'm like, what a baby be doing outside? He didn't really say anything afterwards. So I just stood there and when I'm listening to it. In my head, I'm like, oh, maybe somebody knew to move to the area. They knew the Northern whites were going to be out. Maybe they didn't want to leave their child inside, so they brought it outside. But it just didn't make any sense because this baby just kept crying and crying in two directions. The woods are about 1,500 feet.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Found blocks are pretty small. I'm starting to get a little concerned with a baby. Something in my head just kept telling me, there's no way. Unfortunately, I was a little bit too scared when to walk down the road. This one had, it's like, okay, from the house. After about three and four minutes after he went inside, like, it wasn't like somebody who would calm the baby down or anything. It's just the baby just cut out.
Starting point is 00:08:02 And I was like, that's really weird. So then now everything's just quiet. And I'm still standing there and I just listening. I didn't really hear much else. And I had been listening to your podcast. Usually at night, before I go to bed, I find your voice soothing. So that seems to work for me. And I just, it just popped in my head.
Starting point is 00:08:32 an episode where somebody had been mentioning baby crying noise. And I was, at first I was like, well, that sounds a little crazy, but we'll see what happens. I was standing next to my porch, and I just bowed up my fist, and I moved on to times, over to the southeast, almost immediately. And I was like, that's interesting. and I'm very scientifically minded. I like averages, so I like to do things in at least three. So I paused a moment, knocked again, but instead of two times, I knocked three times.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And again, I heard a response. Only instead of being from the southeast, it was more of the direct south first. I thought I was like, maybe somebody's messing with me. And then I was trying to calculate the distance from the first round of the second town, and I'm like, there's no way. There's one, it's going uphill. So I'm like, okay. Directions.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I had to do it a third time. So I knocked a third time, and I did four knocks that time. Spons back, four knocks, just as I had done in the Z manner. Only now it was the Southwest. It stopped very abruptly. And then for, none of this is making any sense. On here, the more I thought about it, the one I was like, this is not like my neighbor's messing with me or anything.
Starting point is 00:10:47 And once I had realized it was a different direction of correspondence that semi-circled surrounded, even though I'm in the middle of town. So I felt kind of I still had concerns for this baby. I just, I don't know what it was. I can never, I will never be able to tell you that I know what any of it was. Pretty much what happened. and in our area, like I said, it's a very small town, but a couple thousand people. And once you start to leave the town, you run into state forest, national park, etc.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I had went inside afterwards because I got scared. I was like, okay, I've had a problem. I went and I talked to my husband, and I'm like, that was really weird. And he's not the first time I've heard that. I was like, what are you talking about? And he's all, I grew up here. Like, oh, yeah. He had said that when he was a young man, he was out with some friends.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And he had heard the baby crying before. Then some other things had happened to him that night. And I'll go ahead and let him explain that in just a moment. Do you have any questions over? Yeah. So that's extremely interesting because you have to remember all that happens at 2 a.m. in the morning, right? Yeah, like, it's late at night. There's no wind.
Starting point is 00:12:45 It was dead calm. Like, you couldn't hear. There was no other people outside. It was just stuff outside. Yeah, the chances of your neighbor messing with you at 2 a.m. knocking back on something. It sounds like the knocks were, like, immediately returning back to you, pretty much, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Yeah, it was pretty immediate. And then I used Google Maps to help me know how far it was to the first woodwind. And it's about 1,500 feet. So it's not that far. It didn't seem like they were knocked from miles off. It seemed, I don't know, maybe three quarters of a mile. How would you describe the intensity or let's say if someone was actually hitting the side of a tree with a stick? how hard did it sound?
Starting point is 00:13:41 It sounded harder than me knocking on my porch, and the reverberation seemed a lot stronger than my hand knocking. It was like a piece of wood hitting another piece of wood. Okay. It wasn't like my hand hitting the wood. It was a different sound, louder. And they seemed to come, I don't know, maybe within three seconds of my knocks every single time. Interesting. For listeners that are new, I have talked about the baby crying thing a few times. Usually it comes up in regards to southeast Alaska. There's a lot of, it'll be reported out there in other places as well. Usually they say that it is potentially Sasquatch that is trying to lure something, somebody, someone into the woods. Sometimes,
Starting point is 00:14:44 This is coupled with the individual will hear their name from the woods. I've also talked to an individual where they were trying to lure their dog into the woods. It does happen all over the U.S., talk to a young lady from Tennessee that experienced something similar. Southeast Alaska. I think northern Idaho was the young lady with the dog. But it is a very interesting thing. And I'm glad that you didn't go walking after it. I think that would have been probably a mistake.
Starting point is 00:15:19 And especially if you start to hear your voice or, yeah, your voice, the voice of your husband or something saying your name, definitely do not go into the woods after that. Yeah, I can't even describe how. It's just something in my head kept telling me that it's not a real baby. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about the baby. Because I'm a woman and I'm like, they're the baby. it needs help.
Starting point is 00:15:44 You need to go find the baby. And something just kept telling me, that's not what's going on. Don't leave the backyard. I felt really bad because had it been a real baby, I would have been just leaving it to his own devices, which would have been terrible. Exactly. That's the tricky part, right?
Starting point is 00:16:06 Yeah. That was the really hard part to not ignore it, but just stand there and just keep listening and just, yeah, that's not a real baby. Like one cop. town. There's nothing going on here. Absolutely. How quiet was it out that night? Oh, it was dead still. There was no breeze. There was, like I said, there's usually you can hear like a couple logging trucks on the main highway, but you don't, unless there's a bad accident or something,
Starting point is 00:16:36 you don't really hear much at night at all. Gotcha. Around your, your place where you're at, Do you ever hear any other weird things out in the woods, things that don't really make sense besides what you heard that night? Yeah, recently we had gone another Aurora night. I want to say maybe a month or so, though. We go to a place about six, seven miles away from our house, where you can look north across the lake. And you can see the northern lights pretty good over there. And we were over there, about a month or so ago, 930, 10, 10.30 at night. We were getting some pretty good pictures and everything.
Starting point is 00:17:24 We heard the coyotes started yippin. Maybe a good group of 14 to 20 coyotes. They were really excited. I don't know if they got a kill or maybe the adults were coming home and the pups got excited, not sure. But they started hoot and hooking howl and pretty dang excitedly. And we were listening to them. having a good time for a minute.
Starting point is 00:17:48 And then there was just this really long drawn-out how. And then all the coyotes and everything just shut up. And nothing made a peep. And about five, ten minutes later, somebody that lives around that lake come over to where we were. And he got out of his truck and he walked up to the shoreline. And he just like, oh, a good spot to see the lights. And we were like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:17 And said, did you hear them coyotes? And she said, yeah. He said, did you hear them coyotes? Or did you hear that noise that made them coyotes shut up? And we're like, well, yeah. That was weird, wasn't it? And it's, yeah, a little bit. That was the end of that.
Starting point is 00:18:36 We never heard of coyotes making other noise the rest of the night. And in that same area, there is somebody that has, we had noticed, because sometimes you'll be chased on the lights for three days at a time. They think it'll hit. So you go out and you just sit out all night, basically, hoping for it to hit. So we've been going out for about three nights then, and every night we could hear this bull or this cow just super upset. I don't know if something was scaring it, but it was just, it was a very not happy.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And on the one night, all of a sudden across the lake, we heard what, I don't know if it was another cow, because there shouldn't be nothing over there, but something was imitating the cow. Like, I don't know if it was making fun of the cow, being scared or whatever. But I asked my husband, I'm like, do you hear that? Yeah. Yeah, like, there's another property across the lake? And it's like, I don't think so because I think that's National Forestland over there. And I'm like, there's something over there that sounds exactly like the cow that we hear behind us.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And he's like, no, no, I hear it. So we just shrugged it off. So that didn't make too much sense either. Not that any of us does. exactly what it is a thing where you can hear the weirdest accounts have to do with just animals or birds being mimicked in a weird way and it can be anything from owls to let's see what else ducks was the weird one ducks in Washington state because it started out as a regular duck but then at the end it sounded like a I think it was like a really angry sounding duck It's just very strange. Yeah, I'm like a biology nerd, so I'm really good with animals. You can just show me a picture of a snake, and I'll tell you the species, just by looking at it.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I'm one of those people. And there was a night we were out, a national forest land, and it sounded, to me, like a cuckabara, which is obviously not an animal that is native to North America. But it sounded very much like a cuckabara to me, right? And so I'm standing there with my husband, and I'm listening, and I'm like, why is there a cuckabara in the middle of them? I should get enforced. And I'm listening and listening, and then it sounded a little bit more hoody,
Starting point is 00:21:35 but then it would go back to more monkey noise. And I looked online and I did find the bard owl when they get excited. And it sounded very similar, very similar, but it just sounded like it was bigger than an owl. I don't know if that makes sense. Yeah, that definitely makes sense. Sometimes people will describe it as, it sounded like an owl, but it was like three or four hundred pounds the way it sounded like, which is pretty interesting. There was like maybe three of them, and they were pretty spread out from each other. And they were like going back and forth at times.
Starting point is 00:22:25 It's like they were telling each other. I don't know what, but it's like they were discussing something. And we listened to that for about half an hour or so. But where we had been at was there was an old boat landing there. and we weren't seeing much of the lights so we were thinking about heading home anyways and then these kids
Starting point is 00:22:50 drove up on us about three or four cars deep and we could tell that was their little party spot in the woods you could see where they've been doing donuts and everything little young adult stuff so they pulled up
Starting point is 00:23:05 and I was just so more of that it was just completely quiet and they asked how long we were going to be there And we said we were going to go ahead and head out, so we left. But yeah, that had happened. Every now and then we'll see just weird structure kind of things. It just don't naturally make sense. The young saplings, it'll be, like, pulled over in an arc, like, almost tied down by other
Starting point is 00:23:39 to make, like, a loop. And some places will go, we'll see, like, little tee-pee structure-looking things. not anything of size to like that looks like a large animal would be like hunkering down in there or anything, but just stuff in places where I don't think kids did that or why would somebody do this? Things like that. That's very interesting. When you look at the whole picture, it definitely starts to bring stuff together. Have you looked at a thing like the Bigfoot mapping project yet to see if there are other sightings in your area?
Starting point is 00:24:27 Yeah. I did, and there are two instances on the Bigfoot mapping project, which are very near our area. One of them I want to say was a Class A sighting, maybe 10, 15 miles from here. Now, I did, recently, I just checked the Bigfoot mapping project the other day, and I did see somebody about three hours northeast of us, still in the UP. really lied. They had just reported a sighting recently, I believe, Asian. I did notice when I first moved to the area that there are certain places where like all the houses will have big foot cut out and you'll see them clustered together in certain areas. And at first I thought it was like,
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Starting point is 00:27:04 The more I started spending time here and the more things started happening, I was like, oh, maybe they're marking their properties or safe sounds. I know it sounds weird, whether this is the only thing I could come up with. And I've actually been interested to if I walked, if I, like, went over to those areas and went house to house, I thought about what would happen if I just asked them, why do you have this big foot thing in your yard? And then went house to house, just to see what they would say.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Whether or not they have any experiences, whether or not it's just local Scandinavian upbringing with a lot of people from different parts in northern Europe when they migrate. They all have their own fairy tale kind of thing. It is very interesting. It's cool to know that there are other sightings reported in your area as well. Is your husband Jack available to share what he experienced a few years ago? Yeah, sure. I'll give Jack the phone. Hello? Hey, Jack, this is Jeremiah.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Yeah, how's it going, man? I'm doing well in yourself. Doing great. I was just talking to Aaron about what you guys have been experiencing back in August with the baby cry noises and the wood knocks, which is very interesting. Let me say that at some point around 3.30, I got cold and came in the house. And that was before the knocking. So, yeah, we shared the baby crying experience,
Starting point is 00:28:43 and then the knocks she, you know, described to me. Now, Aaron was saying that you actually had experienced something similar quite a while ago. Fuzzy what time, but I'm trying to put the facts together. Based on the vehicle I was driving, it was autumn of 86 or 87. and we were on the western end of the upper peninsula on some of the border waters. There was like me and three buddies. And it was just late at night and we didn't want to go home.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Let's go find a place we can hang out at or maybe even crash at. We weren't there probably an hour and sounded like something was coming through the woods crashing. A large animal. At some point we heard the baby cry so. A little baby and too loud. to be an actual baby. And I collectively looked at each other and decided, yeah, let's run for the truck and get out of here.
Starting point is 00:29:55 So that's the extent of the experience. That's a really unique one being that you said it was pretty close to you and pretty loud. Oh, yeah. Like when Aaron and I experienced this three, four, five times as loud as that. How old were you at that time? About mid-20s. Okay. Gotcha. Is that anything you've heard from other people up there in the Upper Peninsula,
Starting point is 00:30:31 reporting, hearing things like that in the woods? Do people not really talk about things like that up there? No, no personal. I do watch a lot of parents. You hear of that on there, but no, I can't say. All right. Thank you for sharing that. It does definitely add something to what's going on in that area. I don't talk to a lot of people from the Upper Peninsula. It's pretty rare to be able to talk to someone from up there. I appreciate you guys. And Aaron is still there, right? Yep, here she is.
Starting point is 00:31:15 All right. Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. Hi, Cameron. Hey, yeah, that's very interesting. What Jack experienced as well, being that it was so close and so loud. That's a pretty unique thing he experienced back there in the 80s. One thing I forgot to tell you is people, they have a lot of hunting dogs and stuff around here.
Starting point is 00:31:40 It's a big hunting area, beagles and bear dogs and stuff. And there is a neighbor directly across the alley from us. And they take in the dogs at the rescue can't house. And they all live in the backyard. And they bark at the slightest anything, like all the time. And the whole time the baby cried and the knobs were happening, none of the dogs in town, me a leap, not a single one of them. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And I thought that was strange because they bark it. The deer will come in. That's hunting season right now. So the deer have been bedding down in our backyard. That's fine. They know that we'll leave them alone. Nobody will hurt them here. But, yeah, those dogs will smell when the deer come in,
Starting point is 00:32:33 and then they'll just start barking and barking. They know. And the whole time that happened, there wasn't a peep out of them dogs. It's one of those things. You have to wonder if there's something built into their instinct or just what they know that you hear something like that. You shut up.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Yeah. Yeah, so that caught me off guard with glitter when I thought about it. And I'm like, wait, some dogs didn't make a noise. And they barked everything. One thing that maybe we were throwing around hypothesizing is that when there is a strong Aurora night, maybe that gets them excited in some way. Like it does us human. We like to go see the lights. Maybe they like to see the lights too.
Starting point is 00:33:17 And I'm sure they can probably see way better in the dark than we can. There is a hypothesis starting to go around right now where I feel terrible because the young lady's name escapes me. me, I'll put the link in the description for this. She's got a study where she went through all of the BFRO public reports and figured out that most activity will happen on nights when there's either a full moon or no moon at all. So I thought that was a really interesting thing. But it'd be interesting to look to see if there's a correlation to the northern lights of the, as well. Yeah, that would be interesting to poke around and find out. But yeah, it's just, there's weird stuff that happens up in the UP as I'm sure. Oh, absolutely. That whole Upper Peninsula and then Wisconsin's got you guys up there, you got some weird
Starting point is 00:34:23 stuff. I'm not that far away, Central Iowa, but you go up north, there's weird stuff up there. But yeah, sometimes we see, we'll go out hiking sometimes. And these aren't like off the beaten path. They're right near the trails where people are walking. Structures, different X-marks, boat over, trees, stuff you can tell that didn't happen naturally. And a lot of times, sometimes these places are like where the college kids will go and study.
Starting point is 00:34:58 So they're like protected areas where there definitely won't be no tree filling or anything like that. And then you'll just, you'll see these weird structures as you're walking down the trail. And it's almost like you're coming into our house now. It's like a road sign. Like, now entering this town or whatever kind of thing. And that's the way I treat it. Yeah, it's weird when you see stuff like that way out in the middle of nowhere. And I've seen some of that stuff broken off, like twist broken.
Starting point is 00:35:35 like eight to ten feet up and it's just or you've got huge X's and this is way out in the middle of nowhere in the woods of Oregon and you're like man this doesn't make sense logically like what's going on here so i get that yeah and that's the thing is like some of these places where we'll see stuff like I said it's not off the beaten path it's right on the trail like I said it's almost like a house side okay now entering our house kind of thing better behave. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:11 And don't go inside the tree structures because that can be a whole deal. Some people say you don't want to go messing around inside the structures. That can cause weird stuff. And I don't know how I feel about that, but best not to mess with it for sure. Yeah, just the whole baby crying thing,
Starting point is 00:36:32 like it was very unnerving. It was very creepy. Like I said, I felt bad. because it's in my head, like, there's a baby that needs help, and I wasn't helping it. So he felt pretty guilty, but at the same time, then when I had remembered one of your podcasts, and I was like, let me just not just to see what happens.
Starting point is 00:36:54 I didn't expect anything to happen. But then when it did, I was like, we've got to follow through now, dummy. Yeah, got to keep going with it. There you go. You started it. You better finish it. I know you tend to ask people, what do you think it is or whatever?
Starting point is 00:37:13 My guess is as good as anybody else is. I really don't know what happened. I'm pretty sure nobody had their baby outside. Yeah. That much I'm pretty sure. I would say the chances of there being an actual baby out there at 2 a.m. the morning, pretty slim. Pretty slim.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Yeah. So I think that you made the right decision to not go into. into the dark after the baby noise. So I would have done the same thing. And if these things are really out there and they flush and blood, as some people say, or even the woo kind or whatever, the amount of logging trucks every day, it's sad.
Starting point is 00:37:56 It's really sad because they're taking the forest down way faster than that can be great. And I think that's causing some of these instances It makes sense. They're having their areas cleared out. That means they have to move to areas and might not expect them. And the same thing happens, I think, when you have large forest fires, they get driven out of maybe areas in the woods. You see them in different ones or you see them moving around. That, I think, is a real thing to look out for, especially in the, out in the Pacific Northwest with all the fires out there.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah, speaking from someone I didn't grow up in the U.P. I didn't grow up in the Midwest. I was actually born on the East Coast and was on military brat for most of my childhood. But just somebody coming in looking from the outside, I could see where with the old mining towns, because there's a lot of mining up here back in a day, and a lot of them closed down. And mostly the only thing that's left is a logging.
Starting point is 00:39:14 They're talking about opening up some more nickel mines and stuff here in the near future. And that certainly won't help things. But as you drive around, yeah, you'll be going through National Forestland, but you can tell that it was logs several years ago, and these trees are now growing back. And one of the things that irritates me about them whenever they re-forated, so to speak, is that they're all in lines. So there's nowhere for the animals to hide all the trees.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Oh, sure, yeah. Yeah, I can see where you would push more into the protected areas. Like I said, like where the college studies, just the outskirts of towns, and you would just want to push in because that's the only thing left to do. And unfortunately, with the UP, a lot of people from lower Michigan and Chicago that are very affluent and have money, they're buying up all these outskirt properties in the middle of the woods. And then they're cutting out swassa forest to build their houses that they only visit two weeks out of the year, which is even more sad. So you have that happening.
Starting point is 00:40:38 And I think if I'm not mistaken, the population is like 240,000 for 18,000 square miles. But that's only the year-round population. And in the summer, population doubles from all the tourists. And then all the tourists go away, and if it snow was good enough, which last year we didn't really have no snow, so the snow wheelers didn't come. But usually you have the snow lovelasers that come up, the hunters that come up,
Starting point is 00:41:16 all your ice, the sherman. So it very much relies on the tourism. And I just afraid that if there's a population up here, that it's either getting pushed out or being dwindled completely just due to the, deforestation and the amount of people that are building second and third homes that they only visit every couple weeks out of the year and those are the areas where you know if they're doing a lot
Starting point is 00:41:58 of cutting down of trees where they're they probably would have experiences it's just the trick with that is they're only there for a few weeks of the year yeah that's the thing even if there was stuff happening don't think there's some of them are here long enough to even know it exactly unless they have cameras set up and then they might catch stuff on it but it might just keep them away you never know cameras are tricky thing for sure but yeah i have noticed that because i i have a reptile that i keep and i bought cameras for your enclosure and i bought another one for part of the room and then we when we moved up here, I put the camera outside on the back porch. And it worked fine for the longest time, as long as I had it in the porch area.
Starting point is 00:42:54 And then I had me and my husband had moved it and put it further out so it could see more in the backyard because I wanted to see if I could catch another light on the camera. And now it barely works. It only works when it wants to. And I can't figure out what the problem. is. I don't know why. This is what it is. It's just, yeah, one of those weird things for sure. There's an apple tree, a natural apple tree that is right across the alley from our house.
Starting point is 00:43:26 And the deer will come in and they'll get the apples when they want everything. I was hoping to catch a little bit of them doing that too. But as soon as I move the camera, it just doesn't work except for one at once to now. Very strange, very strange. I see it you giving me the opportunity to explain to you what happened. I can't tell you what it was. I'm sorry that I can't. But that's just that's what happened.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Most of this is just people sharing what they've experienced and other people hear it. And then they might be able to get things explained by what you said and it all connect. So it would be interesting to see if other people have experienced things and the southwest part of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan as well, but I just want to say thank you for coming on the show and also to your husband, Jack. It's been a pleasure chatting with both of you, and thank you for sharing what you experienced over the years. Thank you, Jeremiah, and if anything else comes along, I'll be sure what you know.
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