Bigfoot Society - Bigfoot and Dogman Encounters of Western New England

Episode Date: January 29, 2024

Originally recorded on 7/23/22. Remastered for a better audio experience. Bryan is the Founder and Director of NYSSO - New York State Sasquatch Organization; the Director of the North American Dogman Project - New York State Chapter; and is The North American correspondent for Outer Limits Magazine. He is the cohost of “Inside The Goblin Universe” radio program with Ronald Murphy, and host of NoBoBuMe (which stand for -Nobody But Me).In this episode Bryan shares some amazing Bigfoot and Dogman encounter stories that will blow your mind!Episode Resources:future website: bryanbowden.comYoutube - Bronxville Paranormal Society - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQnAg7Udwijtt8ePYTpq43wBryan's podcast Inside the Goblin Universe https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/inside-the-goblin-universe/id1386537759Share your Bigfoot encounter here: [e-mail]🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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In this classic episode from 2022, I talked to Brian Bowden about his multiple encounters with Bigfoot and Dogman over the years in Western New England. If you've experienced something similar to what Brian has or have more information regarding Bigfoot or other cryptids in the same area, please reach out immediately to me after this episode. Remember, your encounter could be the key

to unlocking this mystery once and for all, Please don't hesitate to contact me at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. What was it, Brian, that got you into these crypted subjects like Dogman, Bigfoot. What drew you to it? Let's put Dogman to the side for a moment. Because growing up, I used to watch something a program called In Search of with Leonard Nimoy. Yes, yes. Okay.

That's how I grew up. I love monster movies. I love science, UFOs. I was lucky enough that my mother was a school teacher and she had the summers off. So she became a head counselor and a sleeper. camp in Connecticut. Okay. Northwestern Connecticut.

And I basically was born. They brought me up to camp and I've been there for like decades. And it was great. It was a great way to get away from New York City for two months in the summer or a little bit more. We always looked at the stars. Being in the city, the stars, the light pollution just killed the stars. Exactly.

So when you get to the country and you see all these stars and you can actually see the Milky Way, that portion of it, it's just amazing. And we used to see some crazy objects and we tell stories. but for everything I was into the Loch Ness Monster Bigfoot, the bottom of snowman or Yeti, which is basically a big foot in winter. I always thought that Bigfoot was in the Pacific Northwest. That's where Madison Gibbon film,

everything took place to Pacific Northwest, and I was like, I want to go to the Pacific Northwest, I want to look at a Bigfoot. I'm not thinking anything of being in the East Coast or any place else. And one summer in about 19, it was, I don't know if it was 77, 78, 78, or 78. I don't remember that far back. Okay.

But I slept on the bunk bed, top bed of a bunk. And when the counselors would come back from, someone would watch you in the bunk at night, and then some key councils were off. So when the counselors would come back from town, drinking, eating pizza, whatever, you knew that they were all back

because every light was shut off. Even the bathroom lights were shut off because they don't want to sleep in the lights on. So I'm sleeping on this bunk bed. Now, if my feet are over here, there's a window right here next to my feet. And the window's about, I'm going to say, maybe two and a half, three feet,

maybe three feet by three foot, a glass window that slide into the bunk. And I'm pretty high up. And I have this smell coming, like a skunky type of smell. And I have to get up, I have to go to the bathroom. I'm thinking of like maybe 10 years old, maybe.

So I wake up, I smell this smell. I know the lights are out, so all the counts of the back. And I get up, I sit up in my bed, and I look, and I notice something's in my window. So I'm like, okay, there's a lot of shadow play with trees and the foam moon and whatever. And I look, and the smell of skunk and that putrid disgusting skunky smells really strong. Not unusual for camp, but there seems to be a head or a face in the window, and it's doing this. And I look, and I'm looking at it from a, I'm trying to hide my physical body. because my feet are exposed right by the window.

And it looked like a giant monkey, okay? Like a gorilla slash monkey. And I'm like, it got me on nerve. So I laid back down very slowly, trying not to move because this thing could have easily just went right through the glass. Grab me, pulled me through. So a little bit nervous.

And after about an hour, I just, my bladder couldn't take it. So I slowly creep back up. Yeah. And then I get away from the window. And I just slide down my bed. And then I literally do a dog crawl throughout the bunk. And I have to pass.

I go underneath my bunk to the bunk that's right next to me, which is right by that side entrance. I'm by the side where this thing who's peeking in. And there's a door there, mind you. And I'm like, I'm literally crawling from that point all the way over the length of the bunk and slowly sneak into the bathroom. Also knowing that the windows are there and this thing can come in that way too. Try not to make any noise.

And I peeked and I didn't see anything. thing at that point. So I went to the bathroom. I slid all. Did the dog crawl back, whatever. So that was it. That was my experience. And it was really unnerving. And I didn't know what it was at the time. Because like I said, Bigfoot's in the Pacific Northwest. That's what they tell you want to search it. Yeah, exactly. And now I do have photograph memory. And I was talking to my buddy, my partner, Al, about his encounter in Florida and stuff. And I said, I remember this moment. So I said, let me do a search. So where my camp is, there's a lake right next. So it's a reservoir.

It's called Crystal Lake. Now, I'll tell you what's very interesting about it. The people that did that movie Friday the 13th came to my camp first. No way. Yes, they wanted to do it, which would have been, I would have been like, if I own the property, yeah, go ahead, but just replace every bunk. Oh, my goodness. But the owners were like, oh, it's going to be a negative. They don't want the negativity.

I'm like, there's no negativity. You'd have brand new bumps. It would be, everything would be perfect. So that's their touch. But it's literally butts up against my lake, my camp. There's a lake, a little woodsy area, then my camp with a little lake in it. So I start doing my research and I look up, Bigfoot sightings in that area. Yeah.

And wouldn't the same year I had my experience in the window, three separate people saw two bipedal crifted hanging out right by that reservoir. Really? Yes. So it is, so I said, okay, so what I did see was legit. minimally a Bigfoot. And then that's when I was, I'm older now. This was about 15, 20 years ago.

I didn't really bother to do it. I just been doing a lot of independent stuff. And when you discover that there's Bigfoot in your area, you take these little expeditions research investigations. And I just so happened to meet somebody who is very much into it. He started his own group, Al, and they started a Bronchal paranormal. We started doing investigations together, but we also do it separately. So that's how I got into.

to it. I was a little bit more into the UFO stuff because I thought that would be cool. Yeah, we get abducted. We go to, we can cruise to these planets and stuff. And I'm like, no. When you know about aliens, you don't want to get up. That's a no for me. Yeah. One no, please. Yeah. First off, that's, that's fascinating. I grew up in Western Mass. And I can vouch for you. Northwestern Connecticut, people might think of Connecticut and be like, oh, is it really. And yes, it is really. Yeah. Western Mass. It's crazy. Were you near Pittsfield? My, so one of my grandparents was in the Berkshires in Great Barrington.

I know. You're basically the same. Okay. But I grew up in Northfield in Franklin County. Okay. Yeah. Route 7, right? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. So I'll just let you know that the town I was in is Winstead. They used to have a guy that they called the Winston Wildman. Yes. Yes. Okay. So you've been through.

Yeah. Yep. It's about this big. Yeah. Yeah. The Winston Wildman. And it's very interesting. there's been several sightings along that road into Massachusetts,

specifically Great Barrington. There used to be a coach that would ride to Pittsfield and Great Barrington and come back down through that way. And there are several sightings of what they would call a wild man. What was it called Bigfoot back then? In most places, they didn't call them Bigfoot or Sasquatch. It was a wild man. Oh, that's a wild man.

You stay out of the woods. and it's basically a extremely large, bipedal, humanoid-esque entity, which is Bigfoot. We got Bigfoot and Sasquots from Indian tribes, and then later on someone said, oh, look at the Bigfoot. The no-brainer. The rest is history, yeah. Oh, man.

But that whole area, that corridor is heavily. It's wild. Heavily traveled. And what's interesting is when you find out later on, I have a buddy in Connecticut, you should probably get on two called Chris Reinhart. He does a lot of investigations out of Winston in that area. He recently discovered and found a set of prints,

I think there were 14 and a half inches right and left that went on for a bit. And it's a classic thing that happens to everybody that we've researched and investigates. When you cast to carry packs, you're in the woods all day. Mm-hmm. You want to keep enough water for you to drink. And but you also, if you come across a track and what he came across was golden, you want to have some kind of casting material. And he took it out that morning or just before the investigation he was on to lighten the load a little bit.

So he didn't cast it yet. He may have cast it now. But let me tell you, big time cryptids in that area like Bigfoot, as well as, I'll give you an example of a dog man. All right. Go ahead. So the way my camp was structured on one side of this main roadway, that's the surface road. That's a route. I forgot that either or maybe 263.

And on one side is the camp property. They own some sides on the other side of the road. And that's where the caretaker used to live. And they have something called the canteen where at night we'd have a social. One of my best friends in the planet who I met in that camp one night were hanging out there. And this is years after I had that experience. I wasn't even thinking about it. We would go on hikes and explore all the time.

But at night, he decided to play around and go behind the building into the woods. Just do something. It was our free time. It's at night. We're supposed to be socializing anyhow. He comes out and he is deathly afraid. I know this guy. And he's scared out of his midst.

He goes, don't go back there. Don't go back to this. There's a monster back there. I'm like, what are you talking about? He says it's 10 feet tall. It's got fat. It's got yellow eyes. It's got claws.

It's a monster. Don't go back there. And he was adamant about this thing. And I'm like, come on, let's go. And he's Bobo, don't go back there. And we went back and we're not going to, we believe him because he was, you can see he was unnerved. So we go back there and we don't find anything.

But that's the experience. And to this day, when I question it, he says, oh, I was making it up. And I know him well enough to know that he was not. Yeah. There's something. You can see, you could probably see. see it in his eyes. There's a certain panic that you have at a moment where you're scared.

You can't replicate that. You're not that good an actor. Very few can't. And so what you come to find out is a Bigfoot, as a researcher of all this stuff, cryptids and Dogman. And I never wanted to believe Dogman was real. Thank you to my partner. But it is nine out of ten times.

If you have Bigfoot in the area, you'll have Dogman. And there's usually something that separates them. And they like, you stay on your side, we'll stay on our side. Okay. And usually it's because there's a source, a made sauce of water, and there's a lot of type of food. So in that area specifically, there's a lot of water, fresh water, there's fish, there's turtles, there's deer. Something that's interesting, the bears have come back in, but there weren't as many when we were going to camp. Okay.

So that could be from a eight to nine foot bipedal cryptic foot. And there's been many reports of Bigfoot actually having interactions with bears to territorial and ripping them to shreds. Wow. Just think about this concept for everybody that's watching, okay? Remember Michael Jackson in Bubbles, that little chimp? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Bubbles.

Okay. So Bubbles has a little chimpanzee, like a baby chimp. Yeah. Without even thinking about it, can rip your arm out of its socket and get off your body. Oh, yeah. And Bubbles was maybe three feet, right? Yeah, maybe. Super small, yeah.

Okay. What do you think an eight-foot version of that could do? Game over. Exactly. It's no joke when you see some of these videos, you see these big trees moving and whatever. So that's, once you start really investigating it and I investigated when I started getting older, when I had a car, don't get me wrong. I was into very much the women around there, but it's also, hey, what are we doing today? Let's do this.

And we did a day-night investigation. Fast forward when I first met my buddy Al. And we did an investigation once at a place called the Letchworth Village. Okay. It's up in Thales, New York. It's 29,000 square acres of a hospital that they would put the insane, vast, best undesirable, unwanted. Wow.

Now, what's interesting about this hospital is there was. was a lot of doctors there that would experiment on individuals, no matter if it was a baby or an adult. And they did polio experiments there as well. I think it was polio or TV, one of the two. Okay. So the way they had a candidate that work, a vaccination or whatever work, is if you didn't die, we're on to something, right? Okay. Yeah. So separate from where this facility is, was this cemetery. And in the cemetery, that's where they used to put all the bodies. And they dumped hundreds of bodies there from literally one day old to 90, whatever years old. These are all the ones that have died or they experimented on or whatever.

So it was an unknown graves for a while. Some of the families that had relatives there, they banded together, and they put up a plaque. So when you walk into this place, it's separate from the hospital. You actually have to drive to it in a different area. There's a lot of land between it. And the way it's situated on a back road that's paved, there's like maybe three houses, and you have to park your car, you'll walk through this path about a quarter of a mile, and then it opens up to this where it looks like a little bit of a mound,

and the path goes to the right and the left. And in the center is a plaque that's probably, I'm going to say about four and a half feet high by four and a half, five feet wide. And on it lists all the people are there. So we were going on an investigation there. Now, the way this was situated, we're doing a day-night thing. We'd like to do day and night if we can because things do change. When the outside world calms down a bit, you pick up a little bit more.

You know, it's a little bit more focused at, you know, a nighttime. So what was interesting is if you picture where you're, if I'm standing at the cemetery, there's a tree, there's a mound, there's no grave markers, it's just a plaque. All right. And the road goes, you know, there's a little pathway to the right around the mound and to the left. And to the left of us is a clear cut that they use for high-tension wires, right? We started doing a survey first. We walked in, we went in there, and we started walking around a bit. PNC Bank brings you call of the wild money moves.

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Wow, this is a cool place. I would have been hanging out there as a kid in this area, drinking beers or doing whatever. Right, right. And especially if I had a four-wheel drive, it would be like, whatever. So it's very squatchy.

So you have water nearby, you got swampy. Okay. You have the tension wires there. But I'm thinking more along the lines of ghost. I'm in the ghost hunting mode because we're there to certain do the investigation. And in the back, when you can hear some dogs barking. And there was this one really big bark that we heard throughout the day. My buddy's, dude, you hear that dog?

I'm like, yeah, it sounds like a really big one. Sounds like a mass step or something like that. Okay. So we walk and we're like, We felt we were missing something. Just trying to figure it out. So we go back and we start doing our investigation. He goes one way on the cemetery and I go to the other.

And the cemetery is, for all intents and purposes, maybe like a thousand square feet. It's like a circle or a rotunda. Sure. So I'm doing my stuff. He's doing it stuff. We hear the dog barks and he's being drawn to a certain path and I'm just hanging out. And we just, there's something weird about it.

We felt like there's something else going on. There should be other things that were present, given the type of location, what we were seeing. We noticed things more than other people. Tree markers, breaks and stuff. So we go to this one point, and we said, let's go to this one point and see where this meter, the EMF meter, is reading.

And for the most part, being next to high-intention wires, it wasn't that bad, very surprised. So we hear these dogs barking and we're sitting there. And then I sit down for a minute to look up, then I look up, I see in the tree probably about, I'm six foot one, mind you. Okay.

Maybe 10 feet up. There's a break, a fresh break. Really? In the tree. And I'm like, yo, take a look. Oh, that's unusual. Yeah. Like what came through here that's going to break that?

Oh, man. So now I'm like, okay, what's going on? He goes, should I do a, to do a tree knock or a call, I said, you know what, let's try it with a tree knock. So he finds a piece of wood, it's bad, finds another piece of wood. The dogs are barking. And the minute he hits that tree, boom, the dogs shut up. Oh, yeah, dude.

There's silence there. So, okay. They know. They know. They definitely know. Yeah. And him and I are, we pick up on each other. We know that's, that was one tree knot.

Okay. So we try to do a call. It doesn't work. we play around with the Tibetan singing bowl to try to ramp up the energy. Yeah, interesting. We love Tibetan singing. Yeah, yeah.

It's for some reason, the vibration, the frequency coming out of them, depending on which ones you're using, I usually use the heart chakra, and I forgot what note that is right off the bat. I apologize. I haven't used it in a while. My wife and daughter,

oh, stop, don't use that. I'm like, I have to be dad too. Our EMF meter starts to go a little bit wacky. So I said, okay, So we started doing like a call and response type of thing. I'm like, are you, if you're actually responding to us, no, you're here, make this go up to 90. Oh, sure. Boom, goes up to 90.

Okay, great. Wow. So we start playing around it. So now we're getting into this. It's paranormal, ghosty, but there's a cryptic type of marker here that I'm liking. And he starts going, do you hear that barking, getting this feeling? He gets these certain feelings. he goes off on his own.

We regroup later on. So as we come back, this isn't that much time we've been there. We've been there maybe an hour. We see these two kids on a four-wheel drive type of thing. I forgot what they're called. They come flying in here, and they come flying and looking and they're talking.

Yeah, we're looking for them now. We know they walked in here. We're looking for them. So we're figuring like, okay, what's this? So they come in there and they go along the path. They miss us because we're actually at this point. We decided to sit behind the marker where they give you the list of the people who are buried there. So nothing can come over our backs.

So it's like a good point to be. So we got our backs cover and we can see out this way. And they're looking for us. It's clear that they're looking for us. So when they come back, we like to say hello to them. Maybe it's private property. We'll just want to get an idea. And we get up there and they're like, what are you doing here?

And we're like, oh, we're paranormal investigators. We wanted to cut the lecture at a cemetery. And they're like, can we ask you some questions about the cemetery? No. And they take off real quick. Whoa. Like on a purpose. Like they went in, they came out.

Yeah. And we noticed that. We're like, wow, that's odd. They were pretty quick. They would look like they were looking or they couldn't get out of here fast enough. So mental note back in the head, hit my buddy's head. We continue on with our investigation. And then we decide to go away for a little bit.

to get something to eat early dinner. Take a break. We come back. It's still a little bit light out. And we start investigating the front end of this area. And we hear this. I even commented like, wow, that dog's pretty big. That dog sounds pissed.

It's really deep. You can kind of feel it. So we walk back the path where we came in and there's a cutoff to the right. We start walking down the cutoff. And it's the same area to the right of us that my buddy Al was being drawn to. And we start walking, he starts looking, and as we walk in, we see this structure.

There is a huge tree structure. Now, Bigfoot usually leans trees. They do TPs. They do stars. There's certain things here. Okay. So this was easily a three foot in circumference tree that was ripped from the ground with its roots, flipped upside down so the roots are up there and attached.

It was stand, it was like perfectly straight here. and you had other trees ripped out with the roots like this on top of it. So it looked like a giant umbrella. Weird. That is very dogman. I said, wow. I said, and it's really funny. When you're focused on one thing,

sometimes you miss the obvious signs. And that really clicked. I said, this is very, to myself, this is very dogman-esque. Okay. But I'm like,

we're really too close to the city for a dogman. I'm like, that's my opinion. what would it be doing here? And I started walking a little bit further in the woods because we hear some sounds coming from that direction. My buddy Al's going, stop.

He says, I got this feeling they're trying to draw us someplace. This doesn't feel right. Come back. And we've learned to trust each other's instincts. So I come back and we're not being, we're not, we don't continue down that path to investigate what those sounds are. So we come back and we're like, look, let's stay together. Fine.

Now I'm trying to give you set this up So where the entrance to this cemetery is Off this like two lane road There's a little area to the When you pull up to it There's a little area to the left It's gravel that you would park your car You probably could fit three to four cars there

And then if you go up a quarter mile more On the right hand side it looked like a nature trail And there's one of those light fixtures That's like incandescent light Okay It's yellowish So when we came back, we parked up there under the light so people could see that, oh, someone's probably on the trail. You know, we don't want to get in trouble.

We're not here to get arrested. So no problem. So we continue with our investigation. And my buddy starts getting really acting funny. Like he has this weird look on his face. Okay. He has issues with his technology. Yeah.

I'm like, are you okay? Yeah, I'm fine. Why? I'm like, now you don't seem right. And it's getting cooler and colder. and you hear this, like this wolfish type of. And at one point, just through our evidence, I heard it. And I said, did you hear that?

Did you hear a growl or barking? And my buddy on the audio says, nope. And the next thing you hear right next, it was like that. Right? No. I didn't hear it at that time. Okay. I just noticed I heard of something that sounded like a growl,

getting colder, full moon. And all of a sudden, we're saying, sitting there. This is probably about three, four hours. I have, it's getting cooler. I have to use the restroom. Yep. But I'm not going to urinate anywhere near a cemetery. That's very disrespectful. Yeah, not a not a smart idea. No, I get it. I get it. Yeah. So I said, you know what? I'm going to, I said to myself, hold on when we get to the car, when we go and I'll pee over there, pardon these friends. And I don't know if you ever heard of Steve Stockton. He's another great writer. He's on the list to talk to. He's a great dude. Yeah. He's a buddy of mine. He loves this story.

because you'll hear. Okay. So it's funny where we're staying. You can see the moon breaking through the full moon. Mind you, we're at a cemetery. Yeah. And my hand to God, this white mist starts rolling in. Uh-oh.

And it's like your classic, if you ever seen those old werewolf, there's like this white fog coming in. And I'm like, and I'm like, dude, are you seeing this? And he's, yeah, I'm seeing it. They're like, holy crap. So we stayed there a little bit longer. And he's acting where I said, look, he's getting a little bit chilled. I said, we've been here long enough.

Let's just go back to the car. You know, I got to go to the bathroom. Let's go back. Right, right. And we agree. So we pack our stuff up. Actually, before that happens, these guys come back in. And we said, when they come back in, we're going to ask them about their experiences again.

Oh, yeah. So these guys noticed us when we came back in. And again, they come in like bats out of hell. And they're looking for us. And we're like, you know, Kay, can we ask you questions about strange stuff here? No. And we're out of here. And then they go.

Again, very strange. It's like they know something we don't. Exactly. Oh, they know a lot more. They're not going to tell. Yeah. Because no one believes you when you tell these things. But so we walk back out.

We have our little lambs on and we start walking to the car. And as we're walking to the car, I'm on his passenger side of this. My buddy's vehicle, it's a Jeep, little Jeep. Jeep Liberty. So I figured, okay, when we get to the car, just before I get in, I'll pee on the side. Now where his car is, I'm standing on a, I would be standing on a three foot grade. Okay. As we're walking, we see eyeshine.

Now, I'm thinking here. And as we're getting there, it's getting a little bit more amberish, and it's getting bigger, and it's right by the car. Oh, man. And I'm like, what the hell is that? And we're looking. Now, I don't have any firearms. I don't.

I'm in New York City. It's impossible to get. Yeah, I know. Yeah. So what we do is on investigations, we carry machetes. So I have one here. Oh, interesting. One here and one on my side, plus a couple of folding nights.

Wow. We have bear. We have big cat. Yeah, it makes sense. Makes sense. I don't really want to kill anything, but you got to protect yourself, right? I get it, yeah. So I got the machete here, and I got it on the side, whatever.

My backpack, we get to the car, and I got peace. I'm going to be brutally honest. So as we get there, we see this thing sitting there. We're like, is it a deer? No, it's not a deer. And it's just in the shadows. You can see its shape. It's got this shape of a head.

It has these, like a marmaduke type of ears, like big ears. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it looks like a snout, and they're yellow eyes. and it's sitting there on a tunch. Doesn't move, doesn't blink, doesn't do anything. Now, where I am, I am no more than 15 feet to 20 feet from it. I've had dogs my entire life. I know all about dogs.

So I've got to pee. So my buddy Al's put, we're talking about, see, how come it's not moving? Maybe it's a dog for it. It was too big. And then it hits me that I'm six foot one. I'm standing on a three foot grade. That makes me nine feet one inches. This thing sitting down.

on its hunch, its snout was about here to my nose. Oh, my goodness. So that means that this thing sitting is over eight feet tall. So I start peeing in front of it. And my buddy's dude, get in the car. We can do this later. I'm like, no, dude, I got to go. And I'm peeing in front of it.

And I put my bag in the car, whatever, and I'm peeing. And it's just sitting there. And it's like, I'm going. It was like an Austin Powers type of pee. I got to be honest. Oh, yeah, like evacuation complete. Yeah, it was just kept going. Now we're dating ourselves.

Yeah, yeah. We date ourselves all we want. And my buddy's getting the car, bro. I get in the car. I'm like, dude, I'm not finished. Get the car. I'm leave you here. And I'm like, dude, I'm not finished.

I'm looking at him in the car. And then I look back and we notice this thing. And what it does is it just slowly goes down, lies down, one fluid motion, and then disappears. Now, at that minute, when stuff's about to get real for me and when I'm going to have an experience or something's going to happen, I get the goose pimples. Yep, yep.

Hard as a rock. And I'm like, time to go. I threw my stuff in there, and I got in the car and we peeled off. And that was our experience. But I was no more than 50 to 20 feet from this. And it was definitely, I know enough about dogs.

There's no dog in the planet that sitting down is eight feet tall. Yeah. And at that moment, we started discussing it. I kept looking out at the back, but nothing came out. And here's the interesting part.

If we're talking about dog man as a canine or a bipedal, whatever, canine base cryptid, when you urinate, when a dog urinates in front of another dog, it marks its territory, it says to that dog, I'm the boss.

I'm the alpha. That may have saved you, dude. You never know. So we're thinking about this. And I was talking to my buddy, I'm like, he goes, dude, don't ever do that again.

I'm going to leave you. I'm like, you're not going to leave me. You love me too much. And you can have to explain that crap to my wife. It's not going to happen. But it was very, it was fine up to that point where he disappeared. It was very unnerving type of thing.

But I just always thought like this dogman was like, holy crap, this guy's crazy. Yeah. Being in front of me. I just picture me going back to the, to the crew at the pound or the dogman pound going, so there he was. He's standing there and he's being in front of me. What do you think he is? Yeah, he's.

that's wild dude that's one of the wildest stories i've ever heard on this podcast outside of jody cook i'm not even kidding i know jody but yeah i know it's honest truth and steve stocking loves that he goes i've gotten so much mild out of it but it's a truth but the concept is now from that point i've had i've been in situations where there were dogmen present but i haven't interacted with them and i'm wondering it seems like with this cryptid which i didn't want to believe to begin with. I was like, okay, come on, werewolves, they are 100% legitimate and real. They are very

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There's nothing nice about this cryptic. No, not at all. Zero. Okay? Up until there's a Dogman type 3, which is like a hybrid. So what I did before this show, because I've never been on the show, and I thank you very much to have me on your show. Oh, you're welcome, yeah.

I feel so highbrow that we're talking Dogman and Bigfoot on the... Right. Society. Yeah, exactly. It's really, they don't want me here. I'm not a society type. It's an interesting name for a pipe. I think it's great.

I think it's fantastic. Yeah, thank you. But something very interesting is there's a dogman type three. Okay. And one of them is, it looks a little bit like a big foot, but it also looks like a dog. It has that canine type of lichen or a nubis look to it. But it's not as menacing. And my theory, what I've said, that's a T word people.

There you go. I think that there's a point in time. And I have some other theories on this where big, Foot and Dogman do a West Side story. Yeah, I got you. And they may. And I think they have the ability to connect with each other. And maybe it's, the way I look at it is maybe it's the weaker link for both ends of it.

The runts of the litter. Okay. Sounds really weird and impersonal. And they just find each other and they propagate. And they'll produce pups as well as Bigfoot or Dogman type threes. We did another investigation and we did it up in upstate New York. Okay. Very close.

I'll just say it's near 55-22-ish area. If you know that, that's, or 44. And Route 40, okay. Okay. I know where like speculator is. You're talking like Adirondex? No, I'm talking actually where your grandparents near. Okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a place in the four corners there where Massachusetts, New York, and Connecticut meet is a place called Bishbash Falls. Dude, I've been to Bishbash. Yeah. It's wild. I love that place. My father used to take me there all the time when I was a little kid.

Don't go in the water. Dude. I always felt it was weird too. But he's not into weird stuff. So he never told me weird stories. He didn't know him. He probably has seen some things or knows some things through years and years of X, Y, and V. Yeah.

But, oh, that's Robbins. It's folklore. Dude. I'll tell you when you start investigating these things, it's not folklore. Yeah. So this is close there, but more on the New York side. Okay. I'm being very vague for reasons because I want to protect certain areas.

Okay. So this is a big lake. And it was really once used for by United Nuclear Corporation to do, they were working with weapons-grade uranium. Oh, man. To develop an engine. What kind of engine we don't know. But they had an accident there. And it went into the lake and the military eventually cleaned it up.

But it's an area throughout time from indigenous people has high strangeness in the area. you. Really? Lots of high strangeness. Cryptids, gnomes, elemental type of creatures, everything, even bigfoot, right? Yeah. So we decide, my buddy decides, we're doing a day-night investigation,

Halloween Eve, full moon, meteor shower. So we said, okay, cool, we'll go to the lake. Now the park closes at sunset, but the Appalachian Trail kind of skirts the lake a little bit, right? Yeah, yeah. So you can be on the Appalachian Trail all you want, but when you get into a federal park,

they close. Yeah, okay. And they're pretty good about it. So we can't park in their parking lot. So we park a half a mile away in a certain area, and we hoof it. And we walk that a half a mile. And then once you get to the park, it's probably about three quarters of a mile to get to the tip of the lake.

And when you get to the tip of there, there's still radiation poisoning in there. There's radioactive waste. Whoa. Right. Whoa. So you can either take a path to the right of the lake or to the left. Okay. If you go to the right of the lake, it's a go trail.

There's no way you're going to make it. All right. There's rocks. You're going to die. Literally, it's not for the faint of heart. No one really does it because it's just too complex. So you go to the right. Now, as you go to the right, you can meet up with the Appalachian Trail.

Okay. And then at certain spots, it's not like it's a place where you can park your rear and start a campfire. They don't want that. But it's a little bit open of an area there. And then it's a nice spot. Now, my buddy went there previously because he's been there before he's had interactions with what he calls a bipedal cryptid, big foot. And he's brought people there and he's heard the monkey barking stuff. So I'm excited.

I'm like, cool, let's go. Let's do this. So we walk in and we walk this one spot. We said, okay, at that spot, there's a rock formation to the left of us that's pretty high up. it's impossible really to get in there, the where it's located, because it's just, it's really intense as no,

even if you try to circle back around it, it would take you hours to get this one spot. And on top of it is a whole, it looks, it's like a caron. So it's like a piling of rocks. Yeah, I got you.

I find it very, very weird, but knowing a little bit about the Inuit Indians from the north, they have something called a nookishuk. And that's what they do is they build these rock totems that look like humans and they're like with arms out legs.

And they put that up purposely to ward off the evil and say, nope, there's something here, don't come here. So this is weird. We go a little bit further. And by the time we get to the location he wants to start at, because there are two of these, you found two, three quartz balls like quartz rock that was like, like chipped away so they're round.

Really? Not smooth, but rounded. Not natural. Yeah. That's at the other end of the lake. So at the top point of the lake, it's about two miles up. Oh my goodness. So he says, we're going to make our stand here.

That's what we're going to start. And then we'll slowly come back to this area. We'll do another investigation here. And then that's what the plan was. So we go there. And there's three of us. There's me, my buddy Al and a friend of ours named Bill. Bill had a YouTube program and he videotaped.

So Al wanted him to go there. He wanted to go. But Al wanted a little video. taping action. Right, right, right. I tried to live stream through Twitter. Yeah. The cell signals were, so I was trying to do live streaming, try not do live streaming.

So when we got this one location, the way we set it up, if you're looking at us, I'm all the way to the right, about 10 feet in my right is Al, and then about 10 feet to him, he's behind a bigger set of rocked. Okay. And then to 10 feet to his right is Bill standing, sitting in an area that's a little bit near a mini rock wall, one of those rock walls you find in the woods. So we set our stuff up. We don't start a fire because we don't have any problems with any fire.

We're not really supposed to be there. And we start doing investigation. Now's listening through palpabolic microphone. Exactly. And you hear tree knocks every once in a while. Wow. Did you hear that tree knock? Yeah, I got that.

But basically Bill's videotaping for himself, narrowing whatever he's doing there. I'm doing my own investigation. I have all my meters out. I'm checking out. MF meters, I got FLEAR, I've got full spectrum cameras, whatever, taking pictures, and Al's doing his own thing. And he discovers a certain point when he used the parabolic mic, as he points it up, he gets this like weird noise. It's almost like an SOS or Morse Pote. And I'm like, I'm looking at it. What the hell is that? And I said, it could be one of the

thing. It could be a microwave transmitter, but the military and U.S. government used in case of a nuclear, you know, bomb. Okay. Which they said they're shut off, but I think they still use them now. Yeah. It could be radiation from the lake because this tree, if you go back to when this tree was, it would be a lot lower. So it's roughly about the height where through the growth process, or it's freaking aliens.

So there's your three choices there. And all the while when we were there, I kept hearing rock knocks, boom, across the lake. Yes, yes. And I kept hearing tree knocks. So I'm like, okay, this is very interesting. and in the distance being in the woods you can hear a lot further away but in the distance from us we kept hearing dogs barking and as the night started to get darker and the sun started setting we started playing again with the Tibetan singing booths ramping it up okay okay we did some experiments

he has a rose quartz crystal head skull i have a clear crystal head still his name's scully it's cool so we were doing you know we're hitting it with EMF meters we're hitting it with the temperature gauges. Nothing was radiating off of these rocks. There was no anomalies. But once we started doing the Tibetan singing bowls, this pressure started building as it was getting darker and we were there. Oh, man.

And to explain the pressure, the best way you can explain it is, if you've ever been, well, in the summer someplace, and you smell a rain coming and gets a little bit pressurized, it was like, put that on crack. It was like a thousand times worse. Wow. You just felt uncomfortable.

Okay. So we said, let's call her psyche in Arkansas. Okay, so we call her up. And she gets on the phone and she's, you're all jumble. You can't hear a word from her. Weird. But you're okay.

It's very strange. There's a lot of energy. It's very strange. And eventually we have to cut her off. Okay. And at that point, we're hearing louder wood knocks from where we are. So we're at the top of this.

I'm going to use this. We're up here. Yeah. And to the right of us, on there's a little bit of water here okay so like there are woodnocks coming from that direction and it's getting more and more intense

you can feel it like you want to be like something's going to go on something's happening and at one point we kept hearing footfall but it felt it was really weird it was like heavy footfall and again the way I best can describe it is I've been to some agriculture fairs like for you

would be the Goshen Fair or the Big E up there in Massachusetts yeah exactly yeah And when you have a team of horses walking or if you ever been to an outdoor circus, you can feel when the elephants move. Oh, yeah. You feel like, what was that? That's the elephant moving.

That's what it felt like. I'm like, whatever this thing is, it's big. And we heard breaks here and there, but it's very slow. And we're all doing our own thing. And the next thing, it's dark. It's pitch black. Now, me being from New York, that's insane, so is my buddy Al. And so is actually Bill.

I'm always looking for, okay, if something happens now, where am I going to go? I'm not jumping in nuclear wasted water. No. I don't climb trees that good. I can't go to the left of me, which is the go trail. It's pitch black. So I'm going to have to make a book. I would have to go to the right or stay on my ground.

Basically, I have to stand my ground. Something happens. Okay. And we're hearing these ladder wood knocks and whatever. And at one point, again, we're just sitting there. and my buddy Al goes, it sounds like people are here. I'm like, it's not people.

And the next thing you know, you hear something running in Bill's direction from behind him. And he gets up running. So I get up and we form a pyramid. Al, I'm to Al's right. So we're like that pyramid thing. And Bill starts taking off.

Now, if he didn't stop, he would have killed himself. He would have poked his eye out. You would have went into the, really bad. Yeah. So I'm ready. And I've got my machete, three quarters drawn. And I'm like, okay, let's go.

And I'm thinking it's either bear possibly or a big cat. Yeah. Al's thinking also a big cat, but this is really big. And Bill is just panicked. So I'll go, stand your ground, Bill. Stand your ground. Bill is useless at this point. I love you, Bill, but you were useless.

So it's just me and now. And then we turn on this flashlight. So Bill had like a $3 million or $6 million, in white flashlight. We look in that direction. There's nothing there. We use full spectrum camera, nothing. Fleer, nothing.

We run over to the area and there's nothing. It would literally sound it was right next to us. So, okay, this is really strange. So we settled back down again. Al's using the parabolic mic. And at this point, we hear the tree knocks again. And then we hear him again. And the next thing you know, my buddy goes,

I think there are people here. And you hear, whoop and then the third whoop is at the other end of the lake two miles away and he goes I think that's people I'm like are you out of your mind yeah that's not people yeah it's not and you can feel this thing reverberating in your chest I got to be honest with you I do investigate this stuff I'm a glutton for punishment as they say it was a depends moment yeah you're this like it was just and you go what was that I'm like dude that was right here and where it came from was right behind us.

Wow. We're at between Al and I on this little ledge of the area. We run up to that area, full lights blazing right after that. There's nothing. We don't hear a tree knock. We don't hear anything else after that point. And I'm thinking like, okay, I got it now. And in my head, I've already had this judgment.

This is a Bigfoot. And no freaking doubt about it. And when that tree knock happened, they were two really close together. he or she, this Bigfoot, said, whoop, there are three of them take the long way home. Yeah. Do you understand what I'm saying?

Yeah. It was an advanced scout, and we did not move from that point. We just didn't move. We stood our grounds. Oh, man. So after that, a few minutes later, I think it got pissed off,

and the next thing you hear, come at you hear something coming from the trees behind me, like breaking branches, and then I hear a thud right behind me, boom. And I'm sitting in one of those like Coleman type of chairs. Yep, yep. And I hear a roll hits my chair, throws me out of my chair forward. Whoa.

And I look, and there's this, I'm going to say it's a boulder. It's a bigger rock than I can. It's a couple hundred pounds. Man. And I was just like, holy crap, this thing wanted to kill me. I would have been dead. PNC Bank brings you. Call of the Wild Money Moves.

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We have all these different types of cameras. I use a special camera on Olympus 84. Really for underwater photography, but I use it on investigations because when you're, they have an algorithm in there where you capture the scene, but it helps to add light to the photo where it'll, so it's like a dark camera. Something with very little luck, but without any manipulation of the actual image. That's why I liked it. Okay. That's cool.

And it records video. Okay, cool. So after a while, once that final blow with that rock happened, that pressure. sure we felt. Yeah. Disappeared. It was like an elephant came off my chest.

I'm like, holy crap. So we're breathing and I said, you know what? We've been here to a little. And Al goes, yeah, let's move to the next destination. So this is probably about, I'm going to say nine-ish,

nine o'clock, something like that, whatever. So we start walking, put our head, lamps on, get our gears. And I'm packing my stuff up, but I had a little backpack.

And I put the camera in the bag. And I said, nope, Brian, don't be that guy. is the one that has the camera in the bag. I said, I put it in my breast pocket. Okay. So we start walking.

There's three of us. Now, it's a beautiful night. Full moon, great stars, the country. And we're at a point in the lake where we're at the top of that point of the lake, where you can see out. And I can see from where I was, I'm in the north. So if I'm in the north, the west is to my right, east is to my left. And the south is straight ahead.

And as we're walking, I see this orange like object. it looks like an incandescent light, and I'm thinking, oh, it's helicopter. And we're walking and we all stop. And it's going from west to east, and it starts flying. And I say, what is that? And I point to it. And then it goes, it stops when I say that, and it comes right towards us. What?

So my brain is, ooh, this is getting really interesting. Yeah. At this point, this thing starts flying to us. It's hovering maybe 20 feet above us. You can't see it. It's like a, I'm going to say like an eye shape, like the shape of an eyeball, like an almond. I got you. And it's just in the distance where you can see it's like black, like gunmetal black,

but you can't really see anything. And we're paying, it's Al, myself, and Bill. And Al is praying at this point because he doesn't want any of us to get abducted. Oh, please don't let him get upbucked. I don't want responsibility. At this point, I've had my camera out and of videotaping. So I said, I see it, I see it, it's right there. And this video, if you want, Bronsville Paranormal Society, YouTube, you'll see the orange video.

Awesome. And listen with headphones, because it's important. Okay. And you hear this little sound that's going on. You hear like a motorish sound, like a musical sound. We, and right. So Al says, and you hear him in the video, time check. And I say 915, okay?

From where we are with this UFO to get to the next location is, five minutes, no more than that. And you hear Bill after a while, he sounds like a zombie. It's just looking at us. Something like that. I forgot what it is. Oh, man. And then the next thing, it beams that light down on us. So we shut our head, lamps off, beams a light on us. And then it's over. And we go, wow, okay, let's walk to the next location. So we walked to this next location. That's the open area I talked about in the beginning where you got to. Yep. Yep. So we're hanging out there. We set up the chairs. I'm setting my stuff up. I jerry rigged Bill's camera so he has a side monitor.

You can look at it. And he has an SD card in it. And our psychic said we're going to see these like gnomish things that are there. And I start seeing things in the woods from gnomes to taller beings that are there just out of the iron. And these gnomes are moving back and forth. I said, do you see those things moving back and forth from tree to tree? And Bill and now looking at this thing and goes, oh my God, I can't believe we're why. were videotaping this.

So they started, they were videotaping these things, go back and forth. And then I'm like, oh, this is incredible. And at one point, Alcy's an orb over the, on the water. And he says, Brian, you take your laser. They had a green laser. He had a red laser. When I tell you three, we'll hit it. Let's see what we get a reaction.

Yeah. And we do that. And the thing this disappears. Whoa. And we're like, dude, this is great. We got this video. Let's go look at it again. Yeah.

So we try to look at it again. And we see it. You can see when you hit record, you see it the count. down clock and we're recording it try to use it card won't work oh my goodness is there a kidding me i'm like i'm like there's no way this is an sd card so it's is no mechanics in it it should just should have been recording so al's okay you know what let's give syd new call again time check and mind you this has been like no more than 10 20 minutes nothing more in total from traveling over to that area and i go 10 to 10 to 12 and he's like

What? No way. And I look at it, I'm like, 10 to 12. What the hell is that? Oh, we got to give Cindy a call. So we start giving her, we call her up, right? Now, she's an hour behind. She's Central, right? Arkansas. And she's like, what the hell's going on with you guys?

I'm like, do you sound better, Cindy? And as we're talking, we hear what sounds like bills away from us in the woods, videotaping. Okay. And we hear what sounds like a family out in the woods at 12 midnight on Halloween. It's like the girl for walking the park. So we hang up on Cindy And we say, listen, put your lights on Because we don't want to freak these people out

They come around the woods So we all put our lights on. We're three guys with machetes. Three guys in machetes. Yeah. So we're waiting and we're waiting and waiting Nothing comes. So we walk over there.

There's nobody there. Not a soul. We don't hear them anymore. We get Cindy back on the phone. I was like, luckily, we heard these people And like she goes, no, those people aren't there. They'll be there tomorrow. You're in a space time

rip right now. Oh my goodness. So we're like, okay, this is getting weird, whatever. So okay. And she goes, yeah, they'll be there tomorrow. I said, yeah, we saw these different beings, which are the elementals, which she said, we would. I said, I told you. And after a few minutes, about 12 o'clock, we're on the phone with maybe five minutes, we decide it's been a long night, let's pack a ball go. And we walk, and we walk in out of this place. And not one of us is discussing anything that it took place between the bipedal scripted, the UFO incident, the missing time, and time space trip. And normally we go to an investigation afterwards. We will go to a diner and talk about these different things.

And we didn't. So long story short, everybody went to separate ways, and I'm driving back to the city, like, scanning the skies. The next day I wake up and I have this awful, metallic taste of my mouth and flam, and I breathe it up. And I spit out. And I look, my tongue is blue. it looks like I ate a smurf. Okay? So I called my buddy and I'm like, Al,

you have something weird going on with you or anything? Because I told him about the metallic taste. It looks like I ate a smurf. He goes, so what about Bill? He goes, Al says, I feel like there's something hard on my lip. I got a headache and I have a little bump in my head. I said, go call Bill and then get back to me and let's find out. So at that point, my wife comes in with my two kids from the Sunday school.

And they go, Daddy. And I have no shirt on. they go, what happened to you? I'm like, what are you talking about? What happened to those bruises? I have two bruises, one over here and one of my body. I'm like, I never hit anything. So Al comes back on, I said, dude, I got bruised on my body.

What the hell's going on? He goes, Bill woke up screaming like bloody murder in the middle of the night. He scared the hell out of his mother. So that was it for that expedition. We made agreement that if we were going to get redressed, we do it together. But I have a lot of people in the investigation business, And one of my friends, Derek Tyler, who saw the video of the UFO, he says, I said, Derek, what do you think it is? He goes, I said, you're being downloaded. So basically, we were being abducted. I said, well, think about regress.

He's, don't. You sleep well? I said, yeah, I sleep all right. I don't. It's hard for me to go to sleep. But there's no, do you have nightmares? No, don't regress. You'll never be able to go back. Whoa, wild. So I said, okay, cool. Fast forward. That was October. We go to the summer of that. the next year, we decided to go back to the area. We're all being drawn to it. And as we're there, we're drawn to it, Bill's there and whatever. And we're walking to where we were. And there's no way in hell this thing can be over there, move through these woods.

From point A to point B when it went, and then no way. So we walk a little bit further into a swampy area and Bill's videotaping. And Al gets a higher perspective. And I see it right off the bat and out of the back now goes, oh my God, look, we find a dead. So Bill starts trying to go get closer there. He steps in, he almost, we almost lose him in the swamp with the mud. Takes a video. He goes back home later that night and I'm like, this is cool.

He's watching the video. His mom goes, what are those monkeys doing there? So I see the video. It's huge. It looks like a pup growling and clearly a werewolf type, a wolf fan type of animal creature. And this was what was in the den. And we were able to blow that up. Dude.

Dude. If you go to the Bronxville paranormal society, and you look at the nuclear lake investigation, they'll see the images. I was looking at it so many different times. I've seen it on screens, the size of my phone, all the way up to 85-inch TV sets,

and I missed it. It's why you don't edit your own homework or papers. You're going to miss things. Yeah. My partner was talking about something. Someone went in there, and they circled from the actual images, one that looks like a dog man,

peaking over the wall, and you'll see the wall where we were. And another one that looks like a big, like a giant monkey, okay? It's a little bit blobby, but it's not as blobby as you think. It clearly looks like Harry from Harry and the Henderson. Yep, yep.

So that's my interaction with, I don't want to think I'm looking at time here and I don't want to kill you. Oh, my goodness. This is, wow, this is, dude, this is one of the, my, and it's such a, like, this episode shouldn't have happened, really, if you think about it.

Because I've never, to be honest, Brian, you've never heard of me. I've never heard of you. And Kenny just happened to say, hey, Brian, can you take my place? And I'm so glad I got to talk to you. Dude, you rock. Yeah.

I do my own research, but I'm usually in all these groups. Yeah. But the current way of things going now, it's not research as an investigator. It's a lot of storytellers. And they're telling some crazy stories and it's getting exaggerated.

And it's actually hurting the investigation of research. Totally. But we have other, we call this a plan B. So when we plan on doing A, we can't, we go to plan B, and a lot of times plan B is are very productive. There's another time close to New York State. We're supposed to go shooting one day, closed. We did plan B. We found a whole area where in a park in New York State, upstate New York, we found a mother and child footprint of Bigfoot.

Oh, my goodness. Yeah. And I didn't have casting material, but I did have a LIDAR phone. So I have a LiDAR image of this. Yeah, it's, yeah. Brian, I could literally talk to you for hours. And plus you get the whole, yeah, I'm going to have you come back one day. Sure.

And you get the whole Berkshires in northwestern Connecticut area. You get it, dude. I'm, but basically spent 12 years of my life there. Yeah. And now it's off the Florida for the skunk game. So when I go. There you go. Can you share with the listeners like how they can best keep up to date with what you're doing?

And I'll put it in the show notes for sure. Right now. I'm in between my podcasts because I'm moving, so I have to get that stuff situated. But I'm on all the podcasts under Inside the Goblin Universe. I do one with Ron Murphy or Ron the Crypto Guru Murphy. And I do my own Nobo Bumi, which stands for nobody but me. I'm on every piece of social media when I'm not being kicked off and being political on certain things, protecting everybody's rights.

Right. But you can direct message me. If you have any questions, I will just say, hey, I heard you're on Bidfoot Society. So I have a reference of where you're coming from. And I will eventually have this Bronxville paranormal society, the New York State UFO Project, you say it's at Satswatch.org. But I will have Brian Bowden.com up and running soon. Awesome.

And that will also have links to get to these other, our websites. And just look for our groups, Broxville paranormal side of New York State UFO project on Facebook. Fantastic. Oh, man. Brian, thank you so much for coming on and be talking to you in the future one day. Thanks again, sir. I just want to take a few minutes to say thank you to you.

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