Bigfoot Society - Bigfoot and Mountain Lions of Western Pennsylvania with George Workman (Bigfoot Society Classic)

Episode Date: October 4, 2023

Recorded on 5/23/20Today's episode is with George Workman, a western Pennsylvania based Bigfoot and mountain lion researcher.We chat about his research in the Chestnut Ridge area of PA, seeing ufos and more recently in Minnesota and how to know if you are looking at a legitimate Sasquatch stick structure.You can find George at Flatsquatch Productions on Youtube.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0WNnz53NaRL0VvBCu1lW5wYou can also find George on Facebook at the "Bigfoot & Dogman Info Library (BDIL)" group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/2148271342089315 and also the "Mountain Lions of Pennsylvania Info Libary (MLPIL) group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/mountain.lions.of.pennsylvania.info.libraryIronically enough, the Randy that George talks about in this episode from 3 years ago is the same Randy with the Skinwalker Ranch of Minnesota Episode 321 I did within the last month. A very strange synchronicity for sure.You can listen to that episode here: https://www.spreaker.com/user/15203677/bfs321skinwalkernorthadreadyWATCH THE IOWA EPISODE IN THE “SASQUATCH: A SEARCH FOR SABE” DOCUMENTARY SERIES BY TATE HIERONYMUS // FIND OUT ALL ABOUT MY FIRST BIGFOOT ENCOUNTERS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8O4rvywzETo unlock more bonus content and much more, become a supporting member of Bigfoot Society by joining the Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyBecome a Youtube Channel member here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinSupport Bigfoot Society one time by buying me a coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsociety To pick up a Bigfoot Society shirt, stickers and more, check out our merch by heading on over to https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigfootSocietySend me a voice message to potentially be used for the show by calling 515-809-0165 Here’s a fun prompt - “Hey, my name’s [your name] and you’re listening to the Bigfoot Society podcast!”If you’d like to send me fan mail, Bigfoot related products to check out or written out Bigfoot encounters then you reach me at the following address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_linkTune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more.Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action! —— Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.—— MY GEAR —— My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYMy Podcast Mic: https://amzn.to/3AlYwb9My Computer: https://amzn.to/40CCjQyMy Headphones: https://amzn.to/40A8gcrMy Webcam: https://amzn.to/3NqfddhThe best Bigfoot book: https://amzn.to/41x8IcNLose the weight along with me on Noom. Get 20% off your subscription with link below. (Consult your doctor first) https://noom.com/r/GdkaWNddL?1251Join Whatnot and pick up some sweet video games and vintage shirts. Use my link below and we both get $10 credit after you place your first order. https://whatnot.com/invite/bigfootsocietyLearn more and up your creative game with Skillshare. Use my link and get a $50 gift card. https://share.skillshare.com/bigfootsocietyIf you want an amazing website like Bigfoot Society has that is extremely easy to set up and connects to your podcast in an incredible way then check out Podpage. https://www.podpage.com/?via=jeremiah (Use this affiliate link and you help out Bigfoot Society)

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When you're listening to an episode of Bigfoot Society recorded more than three years ago, interviewing skills and audio quality have improved since then. Please don't judge the podcast on this one episode. All right, this is Jeremiah with the Bigfoot Society podcast. Thanks for coming back, and I've got George Workman with me tonight from Flat Squatch Productions. George, pleasure to meet you.

Why don't you go ahead and tell a little bit about yourself? Yeah. Thanks, Jeremiah, for having me on. I've been researching Bigfoot and those kinds of cryptic entities, I'd say, since about 2013, is when I kind of really got curious into this field. By a profession, I'm an IT professional. Okay. But strictly, you know, for this kind of topic, you know, that's about when I

started 2013. Yeah, we've had all kinds of crazy experiences. You know, I started out just just curious, you know, like most people, you know, I kind of got sucked into YouTube and things like that and that I wanted to see for myself. And, you know, we started having things happen. So, so I got, I got the bug, you know. That's awesome. That's awesome. And then I've been doing it ever since. I map reports. I try to help people kind of break into the topic, you know, just sharing what I know about things. Currently, I've recently started a YouTube channel and got on Facebook and started groups. And I think I met you on Reddit. That's a new one for me. Yeah, yeah, it's a new one for me too. There's some that our slash Bigfoot is an interesting

animal in itself, right? Yeah, some good stuff. Yeah. It's, It is. It's really nice. So I thought it's kind of a tough crowd in there, but that's fine. Yeah, but that's good. We love you, Reddit. We love you. So. Yeah. Yeah. I like the group and or the, the, the Reddit thread or subreddit, whatever it's called. And yeah, I just make videos. I go out into the woods. You know, I do this too. I don't just talk to people about it. Which is fantastic. Yeah. And that is, That's awesome. Like your YouTube channel has a lot of really, really cool stuff on it.

You definitely get out there and maybe to lead you a little bit. But I mean, you're from the western Pennsylvania area around Chestnut Ridge, which, you know, should set off some bells in the listeners' ears depending on, you know, what other things they've seen. But that's a pretty cool area. I'm from Western Mass myself, but I've been through PA, and it can get pretty wild out there, especially in that corner. So it's very cool.

Yeah, I mean, like you said, it's a long history, you know, of the Chestnut Ridge, you know, in the 70s and 80s. You know, Stan Gordon was talking about UFOs and Bigfoot, you know, taking reports from the state police. You know, the state police, there were so many reports there at that time. The state police would just send them to Stan Gordon. and then, you know, Stan Gordon had multiple groups, and that evolved into Pennsylvania Bigfoot Society. And that's the first group that I actually joined and started researching reports.

So, yeah, and there's still reports there to this day. I just had somebody send me a cell phone recording of something howling off the ridge from downtown Dairy, you know, two weeks ago. Oh, wow. the guy was just, you know, it's in the shutdown right now, so things are kind of quiet. Yeah. And he started hearing this noise outside of his window and just put his phone out and started

hit and record. And wouldn't you know it? The sound that we actually, that he sent me was the same thing that I recorded 10 miles from my house, which isn't that far away, you know, two years ago. So, you know, you can't always put your finger on what these things are. Everyone has their own opinion, but, you know, I have a good feel for what I think is not normal. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yep. And you have some, on your channel, you have some really crazy audio. I mean, it sounds cool. So the listeners definitely need to go check that out. It is from a few years ago. I think we're talking about the same video. But it's solid. Like, I was kind of taken aback by the,

sound of it. It was good stuff, man. I've also heard you talk of an interesting story about how you first, back when you first got into Bigfoot, and it has to do with your now life and how, how you know, she's good to go. Maybe tell that story about,

about what your honeymoon entail. you know. Yeah, so like I said earlier, I got sucked into Bigfoot from YouTube. You know, I found this channel, Facebook, Find Bigfoot. And, you know, I probably watched 100 videos. And I didn't really think about Bigfoot much. I've mostly paid attention to UFOs and stuff like that. But I started watching all these videos and I'm like, wow, why is there a hundred of these videos?

They look so similar. They're very shaky. So I said, this is probably. these can't all be fake. So we decided, okay, let's do something fun for the honeymoon. Let's go on a Bigfoot trip. I didn't know what to do. So I just Googled it.

And there was at Salt Fork State Park, they had this event for new people or whoever, you know, to go there and have a Bigfoot camping trip. So we went there. It's a few hours from my house. Yeah. And we kind of, you just show up. You start camping like anybody else. next thing you know, it's nighttime, and they're like, let's go. I'm like, where are we going?

You know? They just separated us into teams. Where are we going? So we're going to Scooby-Doo this? We separated cars. Yeah. It was very strange, fan. And we just get into cars and start following people.

We start going out in the woods. Wow. Just walking. I'm in one team. She's in another team. It's dark. Okay. You know, we have flashlight.

You know, and, you know, I walk probably a couple hundred yards, at least in my team, and I start hearing wood knocks, you know, and I know what that is. Yeah. Because I, and they were just right there. And I thought, okay, what's going on? You know, is this really? And it was just interesting, you know, we just hung out there for a couple hours, came back. My wife was pissed off because she got separated into another group, which is typical. but but in her group her and the guy next to her you know we're kind of walking single file in the dark

you know in a field that's not mode you know it's just this weird place and they started hearing heavy footsteps wow and i mean you can imagine heavy footsteps you know that's not something i've ever experienced but it's kind of kind of freaky especially in this environment and that that guy grabbed onto her arm and they were they were pretty scared man and you know we we so we ended up regrouping back at the camp that night this is the first night we ever did this just show up go in the field wood knocks footsteps and so we're sitting there camping and um i'm trying to sleep you know and that which was kind of awkward and we and then i heard this scream just like percussive reverberating scream.

Wow. Just at 3.30 in the morning. Oh, man. You know how it is when you sleep somewhere and you're not really sleeping that well? And it just, I don't know. I don't know what it was, but it didn't sound normal.

She heard it too. And I asked her about, it was scary, man. You know, you put yourself in that context. And I don't know. It probably doesn't. sound like much, but it was to us at the time. And that was our first night.

No, dude, nothing good happens between three and four in the morning. Like, that's when the weird stuff happens, right? Man. Hmm. Yeah, and you're half asleep. And wow, that must have been freaky stuff. And you know what the funny thing is? The next morning we told everybody, and they told us it was a woodpecker.

So I guess woodpeckers are up at three in the morning screen. Yeah, I guess, right? Yeah. who knew? That's interesting. So I believe I've heard you mentioned too that, so you've been on multiple expeditions. Is that correct? That's correct. More than 10, something like that.

Like, it's a lot. Yeah. I mean, I guess it depends on what the definition of an expedition is. I go out at least once a month. you know, with my buddies, maybe two or three other people and just hang out for the night. I guess on extended trips, you know, a couple days. Yeah, definitely more than 10. A couple times a year I'll do something like that.

That's cool. A lot of people. Very cool. Yeah. And you've, I believe you've been on actual like BFRO trips, correct? Yes. Last year I went on my first BFRO trip. Actually, that honeymoon trip was, there was BFRO guys there.

Okay. So it wasn't an official one, but they helped out. But yeah, last summer I went to Ohio and did a BFRO trip. Oh, wow. I actually casted my first footprint there. It was actually really good. That is cool. That's cool.

So during the expedition, you got to cast a footprint. That's cool. Yeah, they had a sighting the night before. It was a whole. And the sighting, I could tell you about it if you want. No, I was actually going to just lead into that. Would you mind painting the picture of what that expedition was like and what it entailed? Yes, sir.

Yeah. So it was two or three, probably three days, three nights in south central Ohio. I won't say where it was because they're still going there. Yep. but so there was a there was a probably 50 60 people there um it it was well organized it was a location where the homeowner had a had ongoing activity in a state park and they had been researching it and they felt that it was currently active so that's why they chose that location So there was three campsites, a few miles apart from each other.

And you were able to select which one you wanted to go to. So I scanned all of them first. And I'll tell you what, man, if you follow Bigfoot stuff, I'm sure you've heard of tree structures, right? Oh, yeah, definitely. So this place was just off the hook for tree structures. I could just drive down the road and see them, you know, left, right? left right, they were all over the place.

So to me, that was a good indicator that this is hot. So I camped right next to a spot that had tree structures all over the place. Man. And we set up the first night, they split us up into like six groups. And I like to be stationary at night. I don't like to walk at night because I can't see. Sure. I think the value for me is more stationary because I could record things.

and sea and whatever. But the group that was set up right near where I was camped had a sighting, and they saw it on a thermal. There was like three people. So that was big news. And I actually figured out where it was. It was right near where I was camped, which wasn't where I was for the night. So, yeah.

So eventually the last day I made my way back to I figured out where they saw it because they didn't tell everybody. and I found tracks all right near where they saw it and all kinds of structures. We got two footprint cast. Wow. I mean, there was bears there. I think there was a bear walking through my camp. But I mean, as you know, it's not easy to get footprint casts, especially ones with toes in it. You know, it's hard.

So I was happy, you know, it was pretty fun. That is awesome. That is, that's a cool story. That's cool stuff. To give a little bit more to your, to your background as well. So you, you're an IT professional. It sounds like you're, so you're heavy into data, and you've done a lot of really cool projects,

kind of compiling data to do with Bigfoot, but also with Mountain Lions as well. Would you, would you mind sharing some info about that? I think that's very interesting. Yes. So just this past October, I had a guy that lives on the Chestnut Ridge, same place that we had just talked about. Okay. And he messaged me and said, hey, I'd like you to come out to my house. And I said, okay, what's going on? We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words from our sponsors.

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said that he hit a mountain line with his car and killed it. Wow. And I thought, okay, that sounds pretty. interesting because as you know in Massachusetts and almost every other eastern state according to state officials there are no mountain lines here it's extremely rare right there's one from Connecticut what 10 years ago yep so I thought okay well I thought he had a picture of it okay he actually didn't have a picture of it but we did an interview and just got a story and And that's how I got into mountain line.

So I started looking into it. And here it turns out, you know, this is all new for me starting last year, that seeing a mountain line in Pennsylvania or any of these other states is kind of like seeing a big foot. You know, if you tell somebody that they don't believe you. Wow. You know, you could call the state and they'll come out and they're just like they don't exist. That blows my mind. Yeah.

That blows my mind. So I was on a mission then. I thought, you know what, I can do this just as easily the same as I do Bigfoot. So I started mapping all the reports in Pennsylvania. Yeah. And we have over 250 reports just from the past 20, 30 years. And I mapped them out. You can see the clusters.

You can see the patterns. And then luckily enough, I think you'll appreciate this. you know, I thought, well, there's got to be other people that have done this before, right? So I found a bunch of people, researchers that did what I attempted to do, but much better and on a bigger scale. But it was, you know, 10, 20, 30, 40 years ago. So I'm trying to find these people on Facebook. I actually did find them. Here there's a woman.

Her name's Helen McGinnis. She lives in West Virginia. Okay. She wrote a book about this in 1982. Wow. Because there was a mountain line that was killed. It was shot. Officially, the Game Commission was there.

There's a picture of it. There's no doubt about it. 1967, they shot it. Man. So this lady wrote a book about 300 reports, all the mountain lion sightings, but she wrote it in 1982, and she never published it because she didn't want people to know.

So she gave me the book. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And I will say that she doesn't even believe that they're here anymore. She used to because she did all this research, but she kind of just gave up because they never acknowledged it. Wow.

How wild. But there's enough of them. You know, I think they're here. I think they are. I don't think all these people are. it up or misidentifying bobcats. No, no, a bobcat in Mountline is way, way different. That's a long tail for a bobcat.

Oh, man, how crazy. Yeah, so I live in the, go ahead. Even in Massachusetts, I was going to say, you know, in Connecticut, there's groups that pop-up, sightings, you know, I'm sure you've heard of it. Yeah, so growing up in, so I grew up in, like north-central western mass. And our town, I remember once we had a mountain lion come down to the center of town,

and everyone just freaked out. I now live in central Iowa in the Des Moines area. And about, I want to say five to six years ago, we had a mountain lion get into the center of Des Moines, and they shot it. It was at an elementary school, and it was stalking the kids outside at recess. And like the police just, you know, caught shot it, of course,

because you can't have a mountain lion stalking your elementary school kids in the center of the city. But like that was nuts. But yeah, you don't mess around with mountain lions, definitely. And do you know what the official stance is in Iowa? Do they acknowledge that they're there? You know, I don't know. that's a good question.

I have to look into it. Yeah, it's not a thing where we're saying like, oh, there's mountain lines everywhere. Like, it's definitely not like that. So I would say they're not seen often.

Yeah, probably, yeah, I have to say probably not often. But yeah, that's cool. Your database you got going is pretty cool. And you've got Facebook groups

that keep that information together, right? If you wouldn't mind sharing that? Yes. The Bigfoot group is called Bigfoot Dogman Info Library. That's our Bigfoot group that I did first. And then the Mountain Lion group is called Mountain Lions of Pennsylvania Info Library, kind of the same naming structure. Cool, cool, cool.

But we talk about any of the eastern states. We have thousands of people in these groups and anybody that wants to talk about it can share information. That's awesome. I was looking through your Bigfoot group in the last few days. Some really cool stuff in there. And, man, like, oh, and one of your... Somewhere you referenced there was,

was it the Carbondale white... Bigfoot. That video is a trip. I'd never seen that before. And that's just like, I was like, nah, no thanks, man. I went to school for a year in the Scranton area, Pennsylvania.

So I know where Carbondale is. And it gets pretty wild out there as well. Like, oh, man. Can't imagine seeing that deal. Yeah, that video, that video, that video, it looks pretty realistic to me, you know, course, any video you see is a matter of opinion of what you think is real or not. But there's quite a few White Bigfoot reports.

There's two or three right near that one in Carbondale. And there's probably seven or eight other ones in Pennsylvania. And, yeah, it's that, oh, I know I was going to tell you. There's a guy who, you know how Reddit is or Facebook. You just pop in and people ask, hey, has anybody seen one here? You know, and this guy just popped in. I didn't know who he was. So he started telling his story.

And he described being at a like a campground near Carbondale. Okay. Around the same time as the video, because I'm not sure the exact time. But he said that they were in a camper, like one of those old VW kind of buses. Okay. And they had been in there all day and they hadn't left. They were just in there camping. and nighttime came

and there was a couple other human beings like camping, hunting, fishing, not too far away. And he said that what he observed with this was a white, hairy creature that was stalking these people. And he was watching it from his camper. Oh, boy. And he said that it was real jerky.

It kind of moved and it would hide behind trees and duck but what he said that is, you know, he got to witness the supposed Bigfoot, just kind of messing with these guys for hours. Wow, right? And he was really freaked out. And I showed him that video that you just mentioned. He said, oh, man, he said, I got chills. Wow.

He said, that's what we saw. Oh, man. Because it's like, then you think, okay, is it curiosity? or what is this big foot doing? Is it messing? Is it curious? Is it haunting? Like, oh, it could be all sorts of stuff, right?

Like, it's, that's pretty wild. Yeah. Yeah. You had alluded to in a message, or you tagged me. So you've been recently out to Minnesota, and you have some cool stuff to share, it sounds like. or that you could mention. Yeah.

Yeah, I could tell you about that. All right. So my friend Randy, he lives up in Minnesota and he's been communicating with me for probably the last year or so. And, you know, I told you in Southern Ohio all those tree structures that I could just see, you know, and then as I, from the road, and then when I went into the woods, I found a lot more. Okay.

So at Randy's place, it's very similar, except there's more, a lot more. And I kind of took on like a sort of a consulting role just to he would ask me questions. Hey, what do you think I should do? You know, here, you know, this. And then he had so many pictures. I thought it was a good idea to organize all these things. So we've kept in touch, you know, and he keeps me abreast on what's happening. And, you know, during this shutdown period, I thought, you know, I thought, it's a good time to use my vacation.

I'm going to go up there. Screw it. You know, it's 18 hours away, but I'm going. It's a trip. Yep. So we went and, you know, I have thermal. I have night vision. I have trail cameras.

Oh, nice. Okay. Yeah. I thought, okay, let's do this. So I set up, I have five cameras, five trail cameras, different kinds. and I set them up at his property. And I said I had him running for three days on a time lapse mode. Oh, wow.

So they weren't in, you know, infrared. They weren't infrared sensitive. They weren't capturing motion. They were just taking pictures every so often. Sure. You know, every 30 seconds, they would take two pictures. Okay. And, you know, we went, we were there for three days.

days and I saw all the tree structures that he had showed me in person. He had reported there was a sighting that he had a week before we had come. So I decided to put one of the cameras up right where, right where things were going on. Smart. And yeah, we got some stuff on our cameras, which I was kind of surprised. But we got the first night we were there, there was UFOs, wasn't around the whole night. Wow. For hours. Really?

We look up, there's just stars flying back and forth. Oh, boy. Cutting through. Wow. I mean, they weren't close, but, you know, they were flying around. So I got those on video. That's awesome. I probably got 10 videos of that.

I mean, that's not often you get pictures, videos of UFOs. No. Not really. I don't think it is. That's worth 80. 18 hours right there, right? Right. And then I got one of my trail cameras on the time lapse mode.

I got a picture of a UFO, which I think it's a UFO. Wow. It's a round circular object in the daytime, in the sky. And the reason I think it's a UFO is because my camera was set to take two pictures. Right? One, two. Okay. Within a second.

One, two. I see where this is going. There's only one picture of this thing. It's not in the second picture. And you can zoom in on it. There's no propeller. Yep. Right?

There's no tail. It's just this round circular object. Oh, my goodness. That's there. That's awesome. And then I also got this dark figure right where he told me that he had seen it. That's by the power lines. that pitcher, is that right?

That's right, maybe you've seen that. Yeah, that is very cool because not to steal your thunder, but you actually, you have someone go out to the same area and you're like comparing. Yeah, it's very, very legit. And you know what?

I'm not going to say it's Bigfoot because I can't prove it either way, but I can just tell you what, you know, what I've seen. And so that power line, it's 30, it's 30 yards. across. It's 125 yards away, but there's also a three-foot drop, which I didn't realize in that post that you saw. So I could compare me, which is on the reference, it's the same size

as me, but it's cut off. So it's either a black bear, you know, that walked across hidden under the three-foot drop or and then stood up for one picture, six feet tall. just randomly. Or, you know, it's something else, right? And it could be a bear. It definitely could be. But it was exciting to get that. That's awesome.

Yeah. Yeah. We also got orbs too, but, you know, hey, I'm going to put out a new video. It's a lot. That's a lot, yeah. That's a lot to take. Oh, but, you know, UFO and Bigfoot,

they seem to go together usually. being a butter and jelly, you know? It's crazy. And you know how it is? Like most people just have a story. You know, we actually have pictures this time. So I have some evidence to show. So I'm happy about that.

I'm curious and you don't have to get into super details, you know, for safety of this gentleman. But like, is this southern Minnesota, northern? And just kind of curious about that. We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words from our sponsors. lower blood sugar in people with type 1 diabetes and not for people with type 2 diabetes who have

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That's where it is. So if anyone wants to join, Hepa's videos all the time. That's awesome. So you can see them for yourself. That's awesome. And we will be doing a documentary about this, all the evidence that I... Oh, really? Oh, that's cool.

I was looking through, you have a really interesting documentary on Flat Squatch Productions. I like it. It's really cool. Can you give me, it's about the research work of a certain gentleman. Is that correct? That's correct. Yeah. No, but if people haven't gone to your YouTube channel, definitely go and check that out.

There must have been a ton of work that went into putting that together. Yeah, really the work was done by my friend John Redchun. That's who it's about. It's called Redchun on the Ridge. And it's in Derry, Derry, Chestnut Ridge, same place. He's been going there for 15 years, man, and he's the real deal. Wow. We're talking a guy that went out every morning, like four or five times a week to this place, to do this.

And that's where I got a lot of my ideas for these cameras and where to put them in the settings. But if you saw it, just at the end, I mean, he's got A plus footprints. He's had two sightings. He's got five or six different heads and faces. captured in the pictures, you know. So, you know, he was just somebody that people can look to, you know, as in my opinion is a really good person that really tried his best to get evidence and see them. That's awesome. And, you know, he even missed him a couple times. Like his one sighting, he had his camera in his hand and he didn't, he didn't get it. And it was too shocked. Like he didn't know what he was looking at. And by the time,

he did, it was gone. Yeah. And it happened so quick, yeah, from what I hear. Yeah. Yeah. So, but thanks. Yeah. Looping back to, we've mentioned stick structures a few times already.

Yeah, I'm sure most of us have seen pictures of them. But just as someone who's seen so many of them, what are the main things that when you're going out on these expeditions and what are the main giveaways that you're looking for to know that this is a stick structure from a big foot and maybe not a blow over or you know just a fallen tree what are the main giveaways that people or people could look forward to know the difference in your opinion yeah that's a really good question

especially for casual observers and hikers you know if you're just hiking on a path, you're just driving down a road. If you see a pinned arch, you know, which would be a tree that's kind of bowed over. Okay. And that's just the tip of it, a lot of times they're still alive, but just the tip of it will be under deadfall. And it's keeping the whole thing in place. So it's a huge kind of bent over arch. Those are the easiest ones to see amongst the other normal trees that are standing up. You know, there's some that kind of just fall over that way naturally, but the tips aren't pinned under other trees.

You know, and if you study the environment that that tree might be in, you know, most of the time you'll be able to tell that that didn't occur naturally, that it looks like somebody with hands manipulated to look like that. So, you know, because it's, if you see an arch, of arch shaped tree, it's not natural. Like most of the trees are standing up or slanted or, you know, at some weird angle, but a pinned arch will really jump out. So that's what I would say to look for.

That's awesome. Very cool. Thank you. Thank you. What is, what's coming up next? Do you have any plans for future trips or expeditions or what's coming up next for George? Let's see. This year we have the Pennsylvania Bigfoot Projects, which is Mary Fabian's group.

She has a group camp out. That'll be a week long in July, so that'll be fun. We also have a mountain lion trip planned for Mishaw State Forest. I got an inside tip there. Where to go? There's a guy in the 90s who told me that he got a video of a mountain lion and the game commission took his video. And the funny thing is, I was there last year and I told my buddy who research is there, I told them to go to this spot.

And here a year later, some other guy tells me he's got a mountain line there. But yeah, so we're going there in August or late August, I think. And depending on, you know, how this closures have changed a lot of people's plans. Exactly. So a lot of myself will just be local. We always go out and put out cameras almost every weekend, different places. So that's always ongoing. You know, a bunch of videos coming up.

Like I said, that documentary. And, yeah, so how are Bigfoot, you know, how are things going for you in Iowa? Have you had any experience or? There's, there's an Iowa, believe it or not, there's an Iowa Bigfoot group. there's not a lot of action that comes out of it that I've seen. And I'm trying to make my connections right now, because it's still kind of new for me. There's a great episode that Shannon Legeroux from Into the Frey put out about experiences in Iowa with Bigfoot.

That is, it's crazy. So, I mean, well, here's the thing. If you go to southeast or southwest Iowa and you're driving along, it's not flat in corn. It literally looks like, have you ever been in Vermont before? No, I haven't. Okay. Well, just imagine the hilly roads of Pennsylvania. Maybe not the crazy ones, but you'll, you can imagine that you're in New England really quick.

So there's definitely spots for these guys to hide in the southern part of the state. Now, where I am in kind of north, maybe, I don't know, in the middle of the cornfield, but, you know, my things I like to get the story behind the people that are in the community. I enjoy doing that. eventually I want to get more into going to festivals. Right now we have a local festival in VAM meter, Iowa that I go to every year about the VAM meter visitor. I don't know if you've ever looked this up. You need to look it up. I'll give you the short version, pretty much in the late 1800s.

There's a teredactal creature with a beam of light coming out of its head that terrorized the town. The town people chased it into a mine on the outside of the same. skirts of town and then blasted it, but it's still seen today. And there's kind of a fun little festival we have every year. And like Japachin from Wisconsin was there last year. And Linda Godfrey, you know, dogman, of course, she was there. And it's just kind of a fun thing.

So as this, you know, podcast grows and grows, you know, I want to start getting into those opportunities of, you know, maybe going to Ohio Bigfoot Conference or going out to the Pacific Northwest and actually getting into stuff like you're, you know, you're able to do. So thank you for asking you that.

That was really nice. At this time, do you mind if, before we, you know, maybe wrap things up, but would you be able to, you know,

I guess plug what it is that you would want people to follow you at? You know, if you have any, your top content that you're really proud of. And I already know what the answers are. But just go ahead and throw that out there so people can follow you, George. Yes, thank you.

Yeah, to check out our videos, really, at Flat Squatch Productions on YouTube. That's our channel. And the Bigfoot Dogman Info Library on Facebook, just if you need help or need questions. I know some people in Iowa and I know some places to go. So if you... I'd be interested in that. Yeah.

I think... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yellow Creek State Park. Is that in Iowa? I'm pretty sure that's... I'm sure it is. I'm pretty sure. I'm going to look it up.

But yeah, any kind of questions like that, people can come in in our group and say, hey, where can I go? Yeah, definitely. You know? Very cool. Very cool. Thanks a lot for having me on.

Yep. I'm going to look up. that Yellow Creek State Park. That sounds, that sounds cool. Yeah. Thanks again, George, for coming on.

We'll have to have you on in the future for an update of what happens with Flat Squash productions in the future. So thank you. Yeah, thank you. And feel free to share all your podcasts and videos in our group as well, you know. Oh, thank you. That would be great. Awesome.

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