Bigfoot Society - Bigfoot Encounter: "I'll Stay, Even If Torn Apart"

Episode Date: April 24, 2023

Join us on this captivating episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast as we delve deep into the mysterious world of Bigfoot encounters in Oregon. Our special guest, Ronald “Ronnie” Roseman, shares hi...s fascinating experiences and encounters with these elusive creatures in a remote small town Oregon. From hair-raising vocalizations to intricate interactions, Ronnie's firsthand accounts will leave you questioning what truly exists in the hidden corners of our wilderness. In this episode, you'll learn:How Ronnie became interested in Bigfoot and his first encounters with the elusive creatures.The uncanny ability of Bigfoot to sense human presence and their mysterious ways of communicating with one another during encounters.The variety of sounds that Bigfoot creatures produce, from grunts to air raid-like vocalizations.How Ronnie observed the Bigfoot creatures' reactions to gifts of food and other offerings.The ways in which these creatures appear to be curious, intelligent, and watchful of humans.Ronnie's experience taking different individuals to the encounter site and their varying reactions.The intriguing connection between Bigfoot encounters and the presence of other wildlife in the area.Ronnie's observations on the possible social structure and behaviors of Bigfoot families.The challenges of researching Bigfoot in areas prone to wildfires and other natural disasters.The importance of discretion and respect for these creatures when discussing encounter locations.Tune in to this enthralling episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast for an unforgettable exploration of the enigmatic world of Bigfoot in the forests of Oregon. Whether you're a believer, a skeptic, or simply curious, this insider's tale will open your eyes to the incredible possibilities hidden within our natural world.Head over to the Patreon for 40 extra minutes with Ronnie. More Ronnie and Dwayne stories, what happens when hunters get involved, the police report a sighting to Ronnie, a sighting he took about 4 toed Bigfoot and more. https://www.patreon.com/posts/81954121?utm_campaign=postshare_creatorDo you have a personal Bigfoot encounter you would like to submit for me to share on the podcast? Please head over to www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com and fill out the "Share your Bigfoot Encounter" form. Use as much detail as you can and please specify if you would prefer to remain anonymous or what specific name you would like used with your encounter if it is chosen to be shared.Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_linkTune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more. Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action!——Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.—— MY GEAR ——My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYMy Podcast Mic: https://amzn.to/3AlYwb9My Computer: https://amzn.to/40CCjQy My Headphones: https://amzn.to/40A8gcrMy Webcam: https://amzn.to/3NqfddhThe best Bigfoot book: https://amzn.to/41x8IcNLose the weight along with me on Noom. Get 20% off your subscription with link below.(Consult your doctor first) https://noom.com/r/GdkaWNddL?1251Join Whatnot and pick up some sweet video games and vintage shirts. Use my link below and we both get $10 credit after you place your first order. https://whatnot.com/invite/bigfootsociety

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Starting point is 00:01:25 Visit your nearby Lowe's on West Pico Boulevard in Los Angeles. Because I wanted to get out of there. But I didn't. I walked to the front of the car and leaned up against the hood. Now, these things are in backing me now. I got my back at them. And they're just still screaming and hollering and really carrying on. But I thought that this is it.
Starting point is 00:01:49 I'm staying. I don't care if they tear me apart. I'm staying here. In this episode, I talked to Ronald Ronnie Roseman from Oregon. about some of the most incredible encounters I've experienced so far on Bigfoot Society. What did Ronnie experience in that remote Oregon meadow? If you only listen to one more episode of Bigfoot Society, make this the one. Thanks for listening.
Starting point is 00:02:27 All right, Bigfoot Society, we got the privilege of talking to Mr. Ronnie Roseman tonight. He's from the Pacific Northwest. He's got years of Bigfoot experience. And how are you doing tonight, Ronnie? I'm doing fine, yeah. A long time since you've been ready. Yeah, it's like the new version of radio in a way. It's a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Let's start at the beginning, Ronnie. So tell me what was it that first got you into Bigfooting years ago? I've always been weird. I, as a kid, I just was always attracted to mysteries and explain things and phenomenous and stuff. I had a very early age. I think it was fourth, fifth grade. I got a book called
Starting point is 00:03:12 Stranger Than Fiction by Frank Edwards, I believe it was. I read that and had something in there about the Obama Snowman. I got interested in that. I think it was eight.
Starting point is 00:03:29 And then I was telling an aunt I had. I lived in Southern California at the time. I had an aunt that lived in Eureka, which was 800 miles away, California. And she knew about me being interested in Bono Snowman. So it was during the time that the road construction
Starting point is 00:03:53 northern California, Bluff Creek area was going by Ray Wallace there. And she saved all the clippings for me on the Bigfoot, because that's when the Bigfoot, that's where the name of Bigfoot originated, the Bluff Creek area. In 1958, I think it was, or 59. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Yeah. So Jerry Cooney was seeing the tracks around his old age. It went to the newspaper and Humboldt or whatever it was there, Eureka, but I, and then the picture was on. Anyway, she saved all the newspaper clippings for me, and I didn't know it. So when she came down for Christmas, I got that as a Christmas present. So I got interested in Bigfoot at that time. I think I was nine years old.
Starting point is 00:04:41 So that was my beginning. You were around 9 to 10 in the late 50s, what I'm hearing there. Yes. Okay. Wow. So you were at an interesting age when the Patterson Gimlin film was released. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I think I was about 17 years old. See, how old was I at that time? 60. That was 67, right? It was 67, yeah. You would have been 16 or 17 years old, yeah. Yeah, that's when I got, I really got, I really got motivated. I guess a lot of people did that you could look at it, even at that age.
Starting point is 00:05:27 And I didn't know anything, and I still don't know anything about these things. But at that, looking at that, I'm moving. stuff and just the way it moved, you could tell that it looked like something that was there, even though your family's looking at you weird. But yeah, that's when I really got motivated. So that's when I ordered a tranquilizer gun. And I paid 500 bucks for it down in the mail. They had these big dreams about shoot one of these things in the rear end.
Starting point is 00:05:58 After seeing that picture, one of it someday I'm going to get out there and thought about doing something like that and of course I had a problem with tranquilizer a drug or something what would you use would you want something for apes? And I never did think that these things were apes myself
Starting point is 00:06:18 even though a lot of friends have about that John Green, Dr. Krantz and great people that I just didn't see that with the human-like footprints and stuff which is most obvious. The first thing So I decided to go with something with Cernolin. And then I went around to pharmacists and stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I didn't know where to go and tried to get something like that. And I was asking around to get it. And most of the pharmacists, they said, no, we can't get you that. We can't do that or we can't get that or whatever. This one's pharmacist. I said, yeah, he says, that's for tranquilizing people or whatever. And then he said, yeah, maybe I can help you out. give me your information.
Starting point is 00:07:03 I didn't do that. I get scared of the left. I realized that, my gosh, I probably, I didn't want to tell him. I wanted to, oh,
Starting point is 00:07:10 I think I did tell him. I think I told him to what you wanted for us. Said something about I wanted to tranquilize Bigfoot. And I think that give me a weird look. I left. I dropped that project, that idea, which I found out later wouldn't work anyway.
Starting point is 00:07:25 But anyway, so trial and error from the beginning. That is amazing. So was this in Southern California that this all took place then? Yes. Yeah. Wow. What a story.
Starting point is 00:07:39 That's amazing. Oh, man. Thank you. It might sound kind of dumb. No, it's awesome. These are the kind of stories that my listeners absolutely love. Did you first see the film then in a, I know it was shown in movie theaters a lot. Did you see it in a movie theater then?
Starting point is 00:07:59 No, I didn't. You know something I don't remember. I think it was on TV. During that time period, so you were getting into your, your almost 20 in that time period right after the PG film. Did you seriously go out and start looking at that time besides trying to get the... No, I did not. Not at all that come at a much later date. I had read a little bit about these things.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And I'm kind of using anyway, and I'm certainly not really an outdoorsman or anything like Hunter or anything. I did a lot of hiking, but it wasn't for looking for monsters, but I got to thinking about it. I did find out about it. Peter Byrne, he's the first guy I contacted sometime in the mid-70s or something, but I realized Bob Pittman, she never seen one, that I know. Anyway, Peter Byrne didn't, John Green didn't, and Dr. Kranz didn't. And I thought, my God, you could dig it out to get a chance to even get to,
Starting point is 00:09:03 blitz of one of these things at a distance, much less close up. You could search all your life. And I just thought it wasn't feasible to go on for what, the time that was involved and everything else. And not that they're not out there, but I was learning a little bit by the time I was in my 20s. I opted to collect snakes and stuff, and they did that for many years, went all the United States down the Everglades and different places.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I always had these things in my mind. But I figured I'm collecting snakes to run across one of them. That'll be a plus, but not likely. And so I didn't get into it until my real, what I could call an expedition, was after I had gone and queen, the late year, it was in the 90s, and late 90s. And by that time I was, I knew Richard Greenwell of the International Society of Cryptozoology.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I don't know if you're familiar with him. I have heard of the society. Okay, he was the secretariat, and Dr. McHaw, Roy McHillian was the vice president, and Bernard Hulowans was a president. And that was a day established, they were the Arizonaian. They were legit guys. And so me and Richard, we did a lot of build. research started, but it didn't start until 98.
Starting point is 00:10:35 And in 99, I went with him on, it was the second expedition that he had in the CISC years. And the first expedition that he had been with was with him, Dr. Melrose. And a fellow by the name of Mark Slack, he was the guy, and then Darwin, which Richard's son. He didn't, but two years, that was in 1997. and I think it's in Dr. Milvan's book. He's got it in there, which was interesting. I didn't, of course, this was long before his book come out, but he tells what happened there when he was on the team back in there
Starting point is 00:11:11 and that they were clamped in a metal where these things came in there at night and they were running in between their tents and stuff. They had stole their oak mill. And they had it down in the bags, and these things took it out. They didn't make a mess like a barewood. and they heard him running back and forth,
Starting point is 00:11:30 and Dr. Meldrum was sitting in his tent, and then he said one of them actually hit the guide wire or something on the, and jerked his tent running through there. But anyway, the next morning they checked it out, and the tracks were there. It was biped and the grass. Nothing is your cat, but the indentations of there, where they had been there come in during the night.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Richard was using a call blasting and stuff. So anyway, that was 97. Then Richard asked me if I wanted to go on the next one, which was 1999. And we went in June or June and July, I think it was, but it's only a window frame to get in there. It's just snow and stuff most of the year. It's only a couple of months that are really saved to get back in there. It's about 40 miles back in. from Orleans
Starting point is 00:12:28 and the canyon. It was in to the trip. We had the horses, 500 pounds of equipment and food supplies and thermal imaging and everything else. So we got back there and there was some results. And we called last in the canyons in the evening with
Starting point is 00:12:48 what's purportedly Bigfoot screens and stuff like that. We had babies and how our monkey sounds and baby sounds, humans and stuff. And we split up. There was a, the main camp, base camp, was Richard and his son. And then me and Angelo Caparillo.
Starting point is 00:13:12 He was a biologist from the University of Chicago. We, we camped out about a mile away from there, our campus. And Angelo, he couldn't handle my snoring. So he went 100 feet down the mountain somewhat. I was by myself there and something was coming around. And I'm going to say this because it's important. It has something to do with something that happened in my area recently. Now, this was 1999 in Fiskees, Northern California when this was going on.
Starting point is 00:13:49 And after the call blasting one evening, I stepped out of the tent to relieve myself. And I heard something snap, a quick snap. And right on the other side of it was a big canyon. But anyway, I heard it and that's all I heard. But we had already, we had to shoot a bear, I think it was just four or five days before that was stalking us. And actually was going to charge us, we didn't have any choice. So I was thinking there.
Starting point is 00:14:22 And I got back in my tent. I knew something was, I felt that something big was there. And I had a pistol and mace, and I felt somewhat comfortable with that. Anyway, went through the night. Nothing happened. The next night, about the same time of night, about 1 o'clock in the morning,
Starting point is 00:14:43 I stepped out. I hear the twig snap, the same area. Of course, it's pitch black, but I get back in the tent. I told I'd go We'd hike back to the base camp
Starting point is 00:14:56 and have breakfast the morning and I told Richard he's the team leader and I had all equipment and night equipment and everything
Starting point is 00:15:03 thermal imaging and night equipment infrared but I said you guys are to set the stuff around
Starting point is 00:15:10 my can I think something's coming around there and at this point I wasn't thinking Bigfoot I was thinking
Starting point is 00:15:18 there but he said yeah maybe we should do that They talked to her. They didn't want to do it right then. They wanted to quit my word they were at. So the third name, I got out at the same time. I heard the trick snap.
Starting point is 00:15:35 And I got back in the tent. And I had the corked on recone all around there before I set my chin up there. And I wanted as secure as possible. So I had set it up next to Undergirls, some shrubbery, big brush and stuff on one side. of it and then right behind it there was a log that was bowed and not a log but a limb
Starting point is 00:15:58 but it was bowed up just like a guard for a car if you were in a park right in front of it just pulled up just perfectly went across level and then came back down and I had stood on that before I set my tent up there and I jumped on it I was a hundred and sixty-five
Starting point is 00:16:14 pounds and I didn't budget so it was solid so I had that behind me and that's where my head was where I slipped So this third night, I wonder how that clip, I seen right from that area, there was an animal trail. It went all the way back and I came back around right behind my tent. So I think whatever it was there, it did that.
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Starting point is 00:19:25 This is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs. And then it went started. I could tell it was going back up. So something didn't want to make any noise. And then right on the side, I mean the right hand slide of the tent. Right after that, I heard this, excuse me, don't jump. But I got to try to give me. idea.
Starting point is 00:19:48 I heard only 10 times worse, 10 times louder. So that, of course, it made me, that was unnerving, and I didn't know to think of that.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And I thought someone was going to come through my tents. So I sit there Indian style all night with my pistol in one hand and mace and the other.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Nothing happened. And it was years later, there's a lot more on that expedition. But I want to make a point because at least something happened there that got me in trouble many years later, like within the last couple of years here. I'm in Oregon right now, Central Oregon, surrounded by mountains and woods.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And that sounds, there was a few years after that with a friend of mine. I was over at his house, Retman, Neillis Jr., I don't know if you've ever heard. I mean, Bigfoot all the Gine had he established. But anyway, I was over in his house, and I was over in his house. I had never heard the Ron Moore had tapes. I didn't know like a bomb on the Sierra sounds. And I came off with that sound, and I was telling him the same story. That was years ago.
Starting point is 00:20:58 And he said, he looked at me and says, I don't think you, because I was still thinking bear. I don't know anything about bears. Not that maybe the, I don't know, sounded awful. You know, scary for a bear to come off like Earl Ruth. But he says, I don't, this, my friend says, I don't think he's seen a bear. And he played me at the more head tape.
Starting point is 00:21:16 I'll see that sounds. It's about the third one in with the aggressive sound and it is almost an exact. And I think, holy thick. Maybe, yeah. I think one of those things
Starting point is 00:21:31 was standing by my chits. I don't think he liked me being there. It was aggressive for sure. So many years later, coming up to now, I was introduced in an area by a hunter and, well, to somebody else
Starting point is 00:21:49 that knew I was interested in Bigfoot. But anyway, I got a ministerian and right off the van, we started having things happening. And my gosh, that's probably our two-hour talk right there on all that's just. So I'm just going to keep to the point here for now. That sound. I, after knowing these things over here, we had to come in in different areas,
Starting point is 00:22:13 and whistle from both sides, communicate or whatever, camping. Everything was fine. And this friend of mine is named Dwayne, he's a rugged old hunter. I don't think he's afraid of much. He's been charged by Ridgely Bears twice, and it didn't bother him.
Starting point is 00:22:31 And he knew these things were up here, but people didn't believe him. And anyway, I was introduced soon, and I wanted to go up for me. Nobody had ever went up on him. I did. And we had some action. It was going on, everything was fine.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And then on the evening we were there, we're camping in this metal area. It's a good, pretty high elevation. It's back in the ways. And I was sitting in my chair, sitting on the beer, and him and his dad, we had grandpa there too. And they were, they went to, lay down in the tent. It was getting dust. And I was sitting outside of the tent and the church.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Darren, I asked him what kind of sounds, because he's been up there camping there and hunting, mostly by himself for over 40 years, and knowing those things over there. And over 40 years, he only got to see one once, and it was about, from about 300 feet.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And only one time with him being there all the time, but so gives you an idea. I asked him, and I said, what can it sound you heard over the years later? I mean, you come out with something, whatever. So I said, I'm going to share a sound with you, but I heard one time. So I came off with the one, I just
Starting point is 00:23:46 was trying to come out with you. And if you hear that Ron Moore has tape, Sierra sounds or whatever, about the third one is it. But I, so I did that. And pretty loud. And I was just sitting there, and about 15 minutes later, 20 minutes or whatever,
Starting point is 00:24:08 we heard these things coming from a distance, a long distance, just hauling their raisin' hill and screamed something was very agitated and there was more than one and they were coming our way but the way knew exactly what it was coming and I said ooh I said any of those sounds because these things a couple of them are coming up like crazy agitated chimpanzees and another one was coming off sounding like a mad owl and another one was coming up like a coyote and another one like a raven. And all of them were going at the same time. And they're headed our way and they're getting louder. And so I said, I asked him, they were still in the tent. I said, do you ever hear anything like that?
Starting point is 00:24:56 You see out? No, not quite like that. And I said, yeah, we know what they were. And I said, I think this is a premier of the coming attraction. And I got got in the tent pretty quick with them. They were just in the room with the three of us. and they're coming, they're getting louder. By the time they got to where we're at,
Starting point is 00:25:16 it was totally dark. And they came, the way you could hear them coming in and circling and the back of the metal coming around just within the tree of wine. And they came directly behind our tent and just, on an hour and a half, they terrorized this.
Starting point is 00:25:35 We actually didn't think we were going to live through the night. It was so bad. There's no way to explain it how, since it really was. But the two of them coming up like chimpanzees and crazy chimpanzees and the other animal sounds. And you could tell they were
Starting point is 00:25:51 running back and forth. And one of them was charging bump, pump, pump right up heavy and just running it right up to the tent. And then it'd run back. And it did that every once in a while. They did it for about an hour and a half. And
Starting point is 00:26:07 every time the one that it was charging, you You embrace for impact because it felt like it was going to, he was going to come and take the tent and you would just go right on through. That's what you felt like. It was up on a dime right that day
Starting point is 00:26:22 as you found one like right there at the edge of the tent before it came through, then run back. Yeah, that was pretty terrifying. And I wish that I could document that would be something but it can't. But anyway, they ended up going around the other side
Starting point is 00:26:40 and did a complete circle, actually, and I went back around and went back down the same way, and you're going to hear them keep going until they started fading out. Well, they were fading out and fading out until you couldn't hear them anymore. And that was a while.
Starting point is 00:26:55 They'd turn anyway a scare good Jesus out of us. And what's interesting that one of the things that is is that the day before I had, when we were doing our recon around there, And we've seen a track of one, but it was a smaller track. It was probably about 12 inches, maybe a little less. But they would just, you could see the impression of what it was.
Starting point is 00:27:23 And it was going a certain way, and there was a tree right there, too. It looked like it in a little pathway like. And that's when we were, I said, let's get some food and put out in that tree. I hadn't tried to put food up. and I thought oh gosh I didn't the perfect tree
Starting point is 00:27:41 that's crude up and stuff so we went to town and we got bananas and we went back and put them on the tree and next morning we went out and checked
Starting point is 00:27:52 and those tracks were coming from the tree and the bananas were gone and there were snow scraps underneath the tree or anything something had taken the bananas so that's why we set up
Starting point is 00:28:05 our can't right there I said, Dougher set our stamp up here, so we did. So that evening, that happened. And, of course, they were anxious to get out of there. The grandpa, he never said a word or said anything. None of us were really talking, not until it was over with they were leaving. And the lesson of the stories of finding one, I'm going to skip it for now. But next morning, everybody was in our brain.
Starting point is 00:28:30 As soon as we got daybreak, we were ready to go. they were standing there for a little bit of talking because I'm trying to figure out what the hell's going on we'd have been going in there and we'd know they were coming around and we hadn't had any problems and they just went ballistic crazy this night and I was telling Dwayne
Starting point is 00:28:49 I said my God I wonder what happened and why did they do that and I'm thinking because I was telling me that the younger one took the bananas it looked like from the tracks he might have taken them back to the old
Starting point is 00:29:03 man and the old man might have got pissed off at us for giving his kids some food. I'm just trying to figure it out. And then he says, no. And this guy is a seasoned hunter. He's been all over a big game hunter. He said, no. He said, they were here for you. I feel the shivers, the shells go right down my neck. I said, here for me, why, but he says last night. He said, when you come up with that sound, he says, I wouldn't 20 minutes they were headed here. He says, they came here for you. Oh, shit. So anyway, we left. And I did go back, and I took him home.
Starting point is 00:29:46 And I went back only because I had a friend that's a big fun hunter. It happened to be in a house. The house there, Don Monroe. I don't know if you ever heard of him, but he was at my house. He came from Montana. It just happened to be when I came here that day. after camp out there and he's a big time big hunter
Starting point is 00:30:04 he's 80 years old and he's still going out and he's quite a fellow that I told him he said go up there hell I didn't want to go back I was still freaking nervous I took him back up there and we walked around and I found seeing where they came in
Starting point is 00:30:21 it was like they just leveled the brush and everything there wasn't anything a big path where it must have been four feet wide where they came and went through around, but it was too hard to see any really distinguished old tracks,
Starting point is 00:30:36 but it was all messed up scratch. You could tell them where the footprints were back and forth, nothing to cast. It was hard ground. But on the other side where they went out, I found two trash in softer areas.
Starting point is 00:30:52 And the first one I've seen was, I measured it by getting a breaking a stick up. I didn't have any paper or measuring stuff. I broke a kickoff measured later, but this one track was 15 inches and close to nine inches. It was 18 inches long, close to nine inches like at the ball and close to seven inches at the heel. And not far from that, there was another track. And then they had stepped right down where it was soft foyer or grass or green.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I don't know what you told this stuff, but anyway, it was heavy. and it was spongy like material underneath the canopy and a soft moist ground right in this area and this thing had stepped right there and right down there right down to the root
Starting point is 00:31:41 you see the root system and stuff I jumped on it and the area is right there at the track and I jumped and it's just like a sponge it went down and it came back up just whatever it was so heavy it went right down and laid the bare
Starting point is 00:31:58 route and the track was 23 inches long and about nine and a half inches wide and seven inches out the heel so that was the big daddy guy and that's the one i guess i pissed off duane had said that he wasn't going to ever go back he'd been hunting over there over 40 years with him never was bothered but that really did it for him and pretty much me too and about a month later i wanted to go back up there. And I went by and I asked him, said, let's go up there. And let's just go. And I said, I said, going.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I said, it's daytime. It's summertime. It's in the afternoon. It's hot. I said, they're going to be out sleeping somewhere. I said, I wouldn't worry about it. Let's go up there. Let's just go.
Starting point is 00:32:49 And I talked him into it. And his daughter came along, the one they introduced me to him. And we went up there and are you still with me? yes Ronnie I'm just I'm letting you talk because this is amazing I'm doing my best trying not to ask questions but this is amazing I'm so used to somebody interrupting me or taking off or doing somebody it's taken me years to get to the point not to interrupt people but I just hope the guy didn't get hang up thank this is so much bulls so that he's good So anyway, it's all true. I don't sit around and make stuff like this up.
Starting point is 00:33:32 In fact, I take the subject too seriously to do that. So we went up there, and I just want I'm thinking, of course, I was a little nervous going back, but I thought, now, now, these things are going to, now they'll be sleeping somewhere. And I really convinced myself of that. And we got up there parked right apart from the middle. And I had my car, they took there a few,
Starting point is 00:33:56 his daughter took the Jeep. They drove in that, and I had my little green car. And we were parked right there on the access road, right next to the metal. I was back in the middle a little bit. And we were there, and if you hear some animals or birds chirping or something, you're usually okay, there's a pretty good sign they're not there, unless you want them to be there. It was completely silent.
Starting point is 00:34:18 That's a good sign that they're probably around. On this episode of Plant Killers, will explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer. Bad dirt. What makes bad dirt so bad? The answer? The ingredients. But fear not, true crime enthusiasts. This story has a happy ending. Miracle Grow organic raised bed and garden soil. It's made with quality organic ingredients from upcycled green waste like compost and aged bark. Unlike the other guys who can't say the same, looks like bad dirt's murdering days are over. Thanks to Miracle Grow. Join us next time on Plant Killers.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Let's go, girls You know what I love about Addy? Everything? Well, yeah, but it's as little as 20 bucks a month. Ooh, well, the Little Pink Pill has always been a pretty big deal. A really big deal. I'd call that a good investment. Che-ching.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Man, I feel like a woman. Meet Addie, the Little Pink Pill. Addie is a prescription medicine for women under 65 with hypoactive low sexual desire disorder that's distressing to them. Addie is for low desire that happens in all situations and isn't caused by a medical condition, relationship issues, or medicines. Addie isn't for men or to enhance sexual performance. Addie can cause severe low blood pressure and fainting. Your risk is higher if you drink alcohol close to your dose.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Don't take Addie if you have liver problems. Take certain medicines or allergic to any of its ingredients. Before taking Addie, tell your doctor about all the medicines you take. If you have had any mental health conditions, are pregnant, planning pregnancy or breastfeeding. Side effects may include dizziness, nausea, tiredness, trouble sleeping, and dry mail. Learn more at Addie.com, including important warnings. Eligible, All right, quick quiz for the hiring managers. out there. What's worse? Being understaffed or being poorly staffed? Well, that's a trick question,
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Starting point is 00:36:45 Indeed.com slash podcast right now. Indeed.com slash podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? This is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs. But these little birds were tripping on the other side of the meadow. It's a pretty good size of the middle about a hundred feet or cross or more at the front. And the birds, little birds, trip, drip, chip, chip, like sound like little finches or something. But I'm in the birds and I'm looking at the daughter, he's staring over that area. She's pretty smart girl. Nobody's saying anything. I'm looking over that way, too.
Starting point is 00:37:21 She starts chirping. And then she's got like a pattern. Kind of like a pattern coming from the little birdie over there too. And she, yeah, it changed. It was different. The chirping, I'm still not, I'm not sure. She walks over there. It was about 60 feet.
Starting point is 00:37:42 and when she got went in 15 feet, the little birdie started picking up and tripping trip, getting excited. Maybe birds can get excited, somebody walking towards them, but she didn't go any further. And still nobody's saying anything. We're just watching.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And she turned around and walked back to us, me and her dad, and they were really going crazy, and then something else was happening. two birds two squirrels came off about that come off the distance and towards the bottoms what it's called the bottoms
Starting point is 00:38:19 and it's a fascinating area that's the first place we camped out when I went up there I thought it was a good place it's about hours hike down in there and it's like the old grills
Starting point is 00:38:29 and stuff and creek and cabbage and you can tell and part of a swamp and the other I'm in a perfect place for those things that's where we'd
Starting point is 00:38:39 stay the first night and we actually had two of them that night. That was long before this deal. And you have to keep up with me if you can because I get sidetracked sometimes. But I'm going to get back to what I was saying. But that first night, we had a whispered both sides. The next morning, we figured what it was. The next morning we knew going out of the bottoms, hiking starting to hike
Starting point is 00:39:05 because the rocks were hitting the trees ahead of the scissors going out. So that confirmed what it was. But that's when it was okay. We weren't having a problem. Now it's changed. Now we're there. Got the daughter and she's back. And two squirrels, the bottoms that are in the direction of the bottoms,
Starting point is 00:39:28 they're going off crazy. And Dwayne said, and he doesn't know his wildlife or the worms right on up. But he said that something's coming this way. and it wasn't just right after he said that we could hear him come and it was the same pricking sounds that night now this is 3 o'clock in the afternoon and they're coming
Starting point is 00:39:50 that crazy chimpanzee sounds and the wolf sound are that coyote rather and the raven and owl all the five of them I counted five the way he thought there was a lot more than that but I'm going by the sounds
Starting point is 00:40:06 I thought there was a lot. But they're getting louder and louder, just like the night except this is daytime. And they knew we were there. And it's like the second time they're going to have to prick and warn us, you know. But they come up there and the under girl on the other side of the matter was probably about 100 feet away. And they came up to that.
Starting point is 00:40:30 You could tell they were right there screaming and hollering. It sounded like surround sound amplified. and echoing. It's just so loud. And they weren't coming out in the open. They were right there and screaming in Holland. And Dwayne asked his daughter
Starting point is 00:40:47 said, do you want to leave? Because she was pacing back and forth. She said, yeah. And I got in the car and left. He asked me, they said, you come in there. I don't know why. I said, no, I'm going to stick around a little bit. And I'm not a brave person.
Starting point is 00:41:04 I don't know why. some things. I can't believe why I do some things. But anyway, they laughed and that was a lonely feeling watching her black sheep going on out the dirt road. Tree woods on both sides of that. And then I'm hearing. These things are screaming and hollering. And it's me, I guess they want. And I'm staying. Which sounds crazy. And I'm looking at my car. It's about 20 feet
Starting point is 00:41:32 away. And it's pointed in a direction that as a dead end on that road. So I get in and I have to turn around. And I got a pretty good idea of these things. The primary courts, these things aren't can move. They're quick. They want you, they're going to get you. I'm thinking, my gosh, I don't want them to have to think about it.
Starting point is 00:41:54 They might just changing that car, getting in there and turning around. Take a little time. I don't like it. But I start walking towards a car because of closer to it. I am the safer I feel. And as I'm walking towards it, it's like I got two voices in my head. One's saying,
Starting point is 00:42:14 get the hell out of here, run, go. And the other one's saying, no, if you go, you're going to kick yourself in the butt the rest of your life. This is why you're here. And I just kept going back and forth as I'm walking towards a car because I wanted to get out of there.
Starting point is 00:42:33 But I didn't. walked to the front of the car and leaned up against the hoods. Now these things are in backing me now. I got my back at them and they're just still screaming and hollering and really carrying on.
Starting point is 00:42:48 And I just, I was determined that one voice, whatever was, I won out, but I thought that this is it. I'm staying I don't care if they tear me apart. I'm staying here. And as soon as I thought that, I don't
Starting point is 00:43:04 not really into the spine speak stuff, but it was almost like, as soon as I thought that I'm standing here, even if they'll happen, even if they turn me apart, as soon as I thought that, another sound joined in with them. And it was the most hideous, deep,
Starting point is 00:43:24 gurgling growl, like straight from hell or something, and it was loud. It's just as loud as them, and they were so loud already, and it was just a growl. It was like, and as soon as I heard that, because the bitch fella sounded real serious,
Starting point is 00:43:45 I was already bad enough. And when that joined in, I thought, oh, I changed my mind. And I walked around slowly through my car and opened the door and just go on. But as soon as I sat down, I hadn't even closed the door yet, it was silence.
Starting point is 00:44:04 They all shut up, which I knew right then they did what they accomplished what they wanted. So I drove out of the slow, turned around, got the car turned around and drove back out. I had to be within probably 60 feet of them or something back in there in a brush. I had the windows down. It went slow. On this episode of Plant Killers, we'll explore One Nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, Bad Dirt. What makes Bad Dirt so bad? The answer? The ingredients. Fear not true crime enthusiasts. This story has a happy ending.
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Starting point is 00:45:00 And you feel... Uh-huh. And more. More? Huh. I didn't think we could feel like that again at our age. Oh, get ready, girl. Ooh, la, la.
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Starting point is 00:46:54 Need to hire? This is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs. You didn't hear a thing. He wouldn't know that anything was there. and I yelled out the window on the way on. I said, I love you. I don't know why I did that. But I went out and I thought, oh, boy, that's it.
Starting point is 00:47:11 My big foot days are over and I thought, I'm content. I don't need it. I don't need that. That's just too much. And I went back home and I was glad to be relieved because I don't want to go. But then again, it started bothering me. And I thought, holy shit. I'm just thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:47:30 I can't get off. my mind and I it's like a loose end or something I'm leaving something and I I didn't feel good about it and but I'm terrified to go back and I ain't got nobody to go with me either I'm alone and I just wanted to go back but I'm not going to go back especially and push the envelope two stern warnings at least one at least you thought that first time you really thought you were going to die. And these things can scare
Starting point is 00:48:02 they all out of they're trying to they can terrify you it's no wonder
Starting point is 00:48:05 I believe that and I've interviewed a lot of people over the years and military
Starting point is 00:48:11 people that have been through this and been through combat without fail
Starting point is 00:48:16 somebody that's had combat and had an experience with me just seeing I'm not
Starting point is 00:48:21 I don't think it's bad as what we went through have said that this is more frightening
Starting point is 00:48:25 or more terrorizing than being in a war and I know where they're coming from, at least with this experience. But anyway, I'm laying here and I thought, I felt guilty too because Dwayne had told me, he said,
Starting point is 00:48:39 and he says, I never had a problem with until I brought you up here. And I'm thinking, my gosh, this is awful. And it took me two weeks laying on my back and thinking about it. And I thought, my God, I want to go back. And I'm just going to take a lot about it. they have to have a reason. I thought, God, I wonder if I could change it around. If I could change it around and get them back
Starting point is 00:49:05 where they're not pissed off and agitated, maybe that would be worth a try. That's the only way I would go back if there was a chance. And I thought of it, gosh, I'll go back with the food. They wouldn't touch that food either, that they walked by those bananas. We had fresh put bananas back up in there after the younger one had taken them.
Starting point is 00:49:26 and this things went in that night and they passed that tree up twice there was going in and coming back out and they didn't touch some bananas they didn't want them they were too that's how pissed they were but so anyway
Starting point is 00:49:40 I thought about it and I thought God this is really simple the best way's music right I'll get some stuff maybe and go back and put some food up in the tree and this time I'll take a guitar and sing a little bit
Starting point is 00:49:55 and it took me a while I don't know what it was after I thought about how many days I said thought about it. And I was terrified to even think about it, doing it. But one morning I did it, I just got up and I just said, I do it. I'm going. And I went by the supermarket and I got some fruit and stuff. And I went out there, put in a tree, I had a chair and a six-back and my guitar. And I put the food up in the chair.
Starting point is 00:50:20 And the tree is back in away from the access road, about 100 feet. So when I'm putting the food up, it takes 10 or 15 minutes, put it off through the tree. And I looked back and that would have been my worst nightmare. I was saying, oh, my God, I hope doing this. I don't look back and when I'm standing there by my car or in between me and the car and have a heart attack. It didn't happen. So I did that. And I did it before I got in reality.
Starting point is 00:50:48 I was doing it for three months. there was about three weeks in between that I didn't because a bear had caught on and he just made a mess of everything getting the food and containers I had and everything and I stayed the way for over a week hoping he'd go away by then come back and he'd been done a couple of days later he came back in so I stopped for another two weeks then I started putting the food back up doing my thing
Starting point is 00:51:17 and singing and playing the guitar all together with all this and sometimes the fruit or whatever it would totally rot twice, it rotted and go back up there and it's all certain, and nothing touched it. That happened twice within that three months, and I don't know why that happened. Somebody out there from Mayhem, no, but the rest of the time that other animals are critters, the ravens, the birds, and squirrels,
Starting point is 00:51:47 or whatever, would get the food, apples or whatever. but they always left droppings and food parts or whatever banana peels or the end of it or whatever there's always a mess no matter what got into them after doing that like I said three months I was persistent
Starting point is 00:52:06 on it and I was just scared of death every time I had it out of here to drive up there but it did it anyway and this one day I'll go by and get some food and take it back up and nothing was happening up there Boy, the second time weren't up there,
Starting point is 00:52:21 didn't take them to want to know we were there in the daytime and coming after us. How am? I've been there for almost three months, and there was some silent times there, but no activity, no sounds, no nothing. So I don't know. I'm sure those things, this is an established area.
Starting point is 00:52:37 There's no doubt about that. And I'm sure they were there at some time during that three months, and yet they, I don't know, they must have been sit back and maybe watch me and watching this crazy fellow, that came back after threatening to kill me twice. Maybe they thought I was crazy and wanted to study me.
Starting point is 00:52:55 I don't know, but nothing happened. No sounds, no nothing. But anyway, towards the end of the third month, I went by the supermarket and not done. I don't know if it had anything to do with it. I don't think it did. I think someone happened anyway, but I got some fruit,
Starting point is 00:53:15 and I got some bananas. Oh, and I was taking up peanut butter at that time, too, a better sandwich. But I had gotten a blackberry cobbler, a half of one. And I had it in a container, a clear container where you could see through it and it snapped on the sides. Like a pie container, you've seen them.
Starting point is 00:53:35 They're clear, you can see through them and they snap on the side. So I took it all up there and I put the bananas peanut butter or two of the limbs and tight some of the food and stuff up from the bottom and the top. And I, on the cobblers, I put it in a cloth bag, shopping bag. It was cloth, a heavy duty cloth, and I put the cobbler container with the cobbler in, about eight feet up on a limb.
Starting point is 00:54:02 And I sit there for about 20 minutes, or about 70 feet from the tree, and played some songs and sang, drink one or two beers, the next day I'm left out of there. The next morning I come back, and I'm walking to the track. I see, I had a dozen bananas around, the tree. They weren't there. I could tell it when I'm approaching the tree. They weren't there. And I'm looking down at the ground, there's no mesh. All these other animals have always made a mess,
Starting point is 00:54:30 no matter what it was or left part of something. There's no mess as clean. And I'm thinking, oh, that's a good sign. And now I'm looking at that bag with the cobbler and I take it down and look at it. And the container is still in the bottom. But cobbler is gone and the bottom of the container is clean. On this episode of plant killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt. What makes bad dirt so bad? The answer? The ingredients. But fear not true crime enthusiasts. This story has a happy ending. Miracle grow organic raised bed and garden soil. It's made with quality organic ingredients from upcycled green waste like compost and aged bark. Unlike the other guys who can't
Starting point is 00:55:19 Say the same. Looks like bad dirt's murdering days are over. Thanks to Miracle Grow. Join us next time on plant killers. Let's go, girls. So, you've been taking one of these little pink pills daily? Yeah. And you feel...
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Starting point is 00:55:46 Addie is a prescription medicine for women under 65 with hypoactive low sexual desire disorder that's distressing to them. Addie is for low desire that happens in all situations and isn't caused by a medical condition, relationship issues, or medicines. Addie isn't for men or to enhance sexual performance. Addie can cause severe low blood pressure and fainting. Your risk is higher if you drink alcohol close to your dose. Don't take Addie if you have liver problems.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Take certain medicines or allergic to any of its ingredients. Before taking Addie, tell your doctor about all the medicines you take. If you have had any mental health conditions, are pregnant, planning pregnancy, or breastfeeding. Side effects may include dizziness, nausea, tiredness, trouble sleeping, and dry mouth. Learn more at adi.com, including important. important warnings. Use coupon code IHeart for a $10 telemet appointment at adi.com. All right, quick quiz for the hiring managers out there. What's worse? Being understaffed or being poorly staffed? Well, that's a trick question, because both are recipes for chaos. Either way,
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Starting point is 00:57:30 And it was snapped back shut. And it was still in that bag up there. Woo-hoo. They started taking the food. And I go back to town to tell Duane. I said, Duane, you got to come up. I said, just got to come up. I want your
Starting point is 00:57:51 opinion on this. I took him up there and I put the bag up eight feet. I took it down and showed him, told him no scraps around here and all that and I look at that. This is clean in here. This container is clean. And what really got him
Starting point is 00:58:07 that it had been snapped back? And he told me, he said, I don't know. He says, I don't know if anything would have could have done that. And I knew I was successful at that point. on that. I took him back.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I put some more food up. I put 12 apples up after that. And I went back up by myself. And every time I really have to get my nerve up to go back up there. But I went up there next day. And I could tell walking up to the tree, apples are gone. And I'm looking around.
Starting point is 00:58:42 There's no scraps. And oh boy. And I'm looking. There's one apple on. on the lowest limb and I put one down below and it's right there. There was one apple
Starting point is 00:58:54 and it hadn't been touched and I don't know but I'm thinking hey, it might have been a kind of like a piece offering we're good at least that's the way I wanted to think of it.
Starting point is 00:59:06 And so I did a little singing thing and I left. Did the same thing repeated, come back, gone no sounds, no nothing. And did my little same thing left.
Starting point is 00:59:18 I come back. I think it was about the fourth time. And I come back and now I'm sitting there. I put the food up and I go sit in my chair, step on a beer and start playing. And now I'm hearing the whips and little high-pitched sounds and stuff and back me back in the woods a little bit. And I thought, oh, boy, I did it.
Starting point is 00:59:43 I'm thinking I did it, but I'm still nervous. I'm scared. I'm not really thinking it that way of, Until the next time, and I know it sees things back in there for the whips and stuff. And just like the sound you hear that people say they've recorded in the whooping. So now I'm hearing it for the second time. And it just dawned on me. I succeeded in what I wanted to do to turn it around.
Starting point is 01:00:08 And I don't know why I didn't think that before, but I didn't. And all of a sudden it hit me. It was like 100 pounds of weight just went right off my shoulders and stress and stuff. And so it was all right. It was great. And I felt good. It was comfortable. It's a pretty amazing feeling to be connected in some way to something like that. It's just hard to explain, like it connecting with another world or something.
Starting point is 01:00:36 And on a friendly basis, too, gosh, what a feeling. But I saw it everything. I drive out of there. And I don't know why. And had it happened a lot. It kept going back. And they were there waiting for me. But I was scared every morning. I had all I could do to get my nerve up.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Even though I've been pleasant, it was still nerve-wracking to go back. Once I was there and they were doing the thing and I was playing insane, it was fine. But I was always scared the next morning to go up, and I don't know why. But I was. So it was really interesting. I had done it and I'd changed it around and had what a feeling. So I'm glad I didn't sit on my ass or rest of my life wondering about it. So I did that, and it really got interesting.
Starting point is 01:01:24 But I still didn't want to go by myself. And I wanted company or somebody to listen something, and there's a fellow, a big guy, works out when he's a Mexican fellow. And he's been to prison and all this stuff, but he's actually a good guy like he was a friend. But he not ended this big foot or stuff or anything in the woods or whatever, but he knew what I was doing.
Starting point is 01:01:49 I thought he lives at the edge town before I start off in the road to go back up there. And I don't want to draw it by just for the hell of it and see if he wants to go because I want a company. And he surprised me. He said, yeah, I'll go with you. So he did. Now, all these stuff had been happening with me. So now I'm taking him up there. And we get right to this place, right by the metal, right, and close the trees not too far.
Starting point is 01:02:16 As soon as we pulled him, as soon as we got out of the car, I'm ahead of him walking towards the tree and he's behind me and those things started off with weapon and stuff but a little more aggressive there was some stonking and a little bit
Starting point is 01:02:30 it was just a little bit different and maybe a little intimidating and especially somebody that never experienced anything and I looked back in him and his eyes were ready to balls right out and the look in his face was priceless he says I think I want to
Starting point is 01:02:49 go. And I said, I said, Sal, I said, I said, it's just getting started. I want to go. I said, I had to take him out there. But I did that a couple of times. I took another fellow up there. Some time in between, it wasn't very often, but I could find someone to go.
Starting point is 01:03:08 He walked back in their little bit, big stomp on the ground and the smell. I never ever smelt anything with him, but this guy did. And he was a hiker, hiked the mountains of stuff, never hanging. express. He didn't want to come back either. I took a someone that was really interesting. Third guy I took back up there. He used to live here
Starting point is 01:03:30 in this small town. He had an elk and deer and stuff. He was a hunter. And he was interested in Bigfoot. I had it bear to him. But he was interested in Bigfoot. I talked to him about it when he lived here. And he was just intrigued with it, but he had never seen any evidence. He hunted here for 13 years. And he got to So he went to New York where he's got family. But he comes out here about once a year and spends a few days with some family,
Starting point is 01:03:57 his kid and stuff. Anyway, he was out here. He gave me a call, and he wanted to spend a day with me before he went back to New York. I said, yeah, it'd be great. So he came over. I didn't tell him anything yet.
Starting point is 01:04:10 And when he showed up, I said, Hey, I think I know where Big Phus at. And he got excited enough. That's great. So we went up there. I always thought that these things knew because they were there waiting for me when we had this going.
Starting point is 01:04:24 And I figured they knew when I was coming because of my car. And if I remember, right, I think that we took his van. And we were up there and probably maybe 10 minutes before the area that I stopped it where the tree is
Starting point is 01:04:45 in the middle. I mean, it's all woods and mountain there you can't see and it's a ways away yet and we're driving up there towards it and I got the food and everything but I hadn't
Starting point is 01:05:01 heard this sound up there yet I did hear it in the Siskies in Northern California but I heard the sound that sounds like an air raid you know that one and he heard it and his eyes got big and he looked at me and he pointed
Starting point is 01:05:15 and I said of course by this time I'm used to I'm pretty used to him being there. Even though I hadn't heard that sound before, they hadn't come off with that one up there. And I looked at him and I said, yeah, I said that fellow, he's just, he's letting us know that he knows we're coming
Starting point is 01:05:33 or he's gathering the troops. We made it and we arrived to the spot. We get out. As soon as we got out, the trees don't, where I was part, trees not far. There was a grunt coming, from the other side of the metal
Starting point is 01:05:50 on the other side of the road away from the tree. It was several hundred feet, I'd guess, about 300 feet back in there. And I checked that out on the YouTube later on after I got out of there in training. It was a gorilla. It sounded just like a freaking gorilla.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Anyway, you heard that grunt. And he's not saying anything and we're silent, but he pointed me and looked and I said, I just shook my hand. And about a minute later, that was on the other side of this metal we're looking at. And then on the other side of the metal, it's a grunt came off again.
Starting point is 01:06:26 And he said, I think something's encircling us. And I said, yeah, I do too. That's what you would think. It was in sequence. A grunt there, a little bit of grunt, like something's going this direction and a grunt further down in the same direction going. And then about a minute later,
Starting point is 01:06:44 there was a grunt behind us behind. and I think of all across the road further down the access road now it's behind us on the left because it grunt there about a minute later
Starting point is 01:06:55 there was a grunt behind us on the other side of us behind us and so that's five grunts and it sounded just like something encircled us and so he's this guy
Starting point is 01:07:07 he's not your typical fella most people wouldn't that would have been enough they'd want it to get the hell out of there I thought the screen would have done it before we got back in there. He was excited and he's just looking around and he's a big guy. He's like an old hillbilly or something, but he's already got a good heart.
Starting point is 01:07:25 And he's just excited and he's looking around and stuff. And I wonder what he's looking for. I'm laying it up against a car and he sees a tree branch of limb and he says, can I grab that and whack that tree? I don't make any sounds, but he deserved it. I'm just, I was more interested in him at this point. and it was the big foot. But I said, yeah, I said, plus he has permission.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Gosh, I don't get that much respect usually. It's pretty neat. So I said, yeah, take it, go ahead and grab it and go ahead, do it. I said, I don't do it because I don't know what I'm conveying, but go ahead. He whacked it once. He whacked it twice. Then he whacked at the third time. And the third time he did it, those five grunts from those five positions came off at the same time.
Starting point is 01:08:13 We were already surrounded. What do you think of that? How do you figure that one out? I'm still here. Dude, this is nuts. Okay, I have a clarification question real quick. I don't want to distract you at all. But how long ago was this?
Starting point is 01:08:39 About two years ago. Two years ago, Ronnie? I couldn't get back in there. I would have continued doing what I was doing. But I had to go to Florida for a while. I ended up seven months there. And that was the beginning of spring a couple years ago. And then I got back here.
Starting point is 01:08:57 And there was a fire going, so I couldn't get back in there. Then winter was coming. It was snow. Then the next year, a frickin fire again. And so I haven't been able to get back in there. It's been blocked off. I did manage for a little while. One of the fires, I got back up in there, and I put a food back up in there.
Starting point is 01:09:16 I haven't been able to get back and check it out. And right now, it's still snow up in there. and muddy and I'm afraid I'll get stuck. It's the ways back in. So I haven't been able to get back up in there, but I did get up there for a little bit before freaking time and problems again, because I was worried that the fire had taken this whole area out.
Starting point is 01:09:39 I thought, no, God, that'd be my luck, an established area with a family of these things, and it's freaking destroyed. In fact, that's what everybody was saying, and fire workers that guys are ahead of these fires or directing or whatever that, because I was asking around, they said, well, pretty much that's gone.
Starting point is 01:09:54 It wasn't. I got up when there was calm and you get access to get back in there and stuff. Heck, the growth back in this area where these things were, was twice as thick at the end of growth there. So it's even better. And I seen deer there too.
Starting point is 01:10:09 So I'm thinking that all that smoke and activity and everything, but they would have had to left. But whether they came back or not, not sure, but I got a feeling they probably would. And it hadn't been touched, so that was great. As soon as I get back up in there, I'm going to try to be sure. Yeah, but it's only been a couple years since I, and I left on good terms. Ronnie, can you share anything about, can you share anything about where that area or the general location of that area is for context?
Starting point is 01:10:41 I get it. I totally get that, Ronnie. Can you, is it, are we talking, can you at least share the state? Oh, it's Oregon. It's Oregon. Okay. In fact, I'll tell you, I'll tell you the city. Yeah, I can tell you that.
Starting point is 01:10:56 It's not a city. It's a town. It's about two or three miles long. It's surrounded by mountains and areas places. Make sure to head over to the Patreon this week for 40 more minutes of my interview with Ronnie. There's more Ronnie and Dwayne's stories. What happens when hunters get in, evolved in that area, a police report that was given to Ronnie, and a sighting he took about
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