Bigfoot Society - Bigfoot Encounters in Tennessee with Elijah Henderson

Episode Date: April 3, 2023

Welcome to the Bigfoot Society podcast, hosted by Jeremiah Byron! In this episode, we have Elijah Henderson, a researcher from the Cryptid Studies Institute based in Clarksville, Tennessee. He is strategically located in the midst of several creature-themed spots such as Werewolf Springs, the Bell Witch site, the Hopkinsville Goblin area, and Land Between the Lakes.Elijah shares with us some intriguing Bigfoot vocalizations recorded at a property in Indian Mound, Tennessee. Could it be possible that Bigfoot is mimicking donkey sounds in the area? The sounds are some of the most fascinating and unexplainable ones he has heard so far.We also hear about a spine-chilling Bigfoot encounter that took place in the 1960s at a family property in Dayton, Tennessee. The creature followed the family around the property and even chased them back to their house. The encounter had a horrific impact on their hogs.In addition, we discuss the infamous White Bluff Screamer, an entity that almost wiped out an entire family. Is it a Bigfoot or something paranormal? The jury is still out.Last but not least, Elijah talks about the Bigfoot of Pocket Wilderness in Dayton, TN. This is an episode you don't want to miss! Tune in now to hear about these exciting Bigfoot encounters and more on the Bigfoot Society podcast.Elijah stays on for an extra 40 minute long discussion about his Dogman research and the Land Between the Lakes massacre. Get this extra episode of the podcast by becoming a supporting member of Bigfoot Society over at: https://www.patreon.com/posts/bigfoot-society-80936779---Resources:Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@CryptidStudiesInstituteWhite Bluff Screamer video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYNiIDQHDH4If you want even more exclusive content, become a Patreon member and gain access to extra audio, a Patron-only Discord and much more over at https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyDo you have a personal Bigfoot encounter you would like to submit for me to share on the podcast? Please head over to www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com and fill out the "Share your Bigfoot Encounter" form. Use as much detail as you can and please specify if you would prefer to remain anonymous or what specific name you would like used with your encounter if it is chosen to be shared.Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_linkTune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more. Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action!

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Welcome to Bigfoot Society. In this episode, we talked to Elijah Henderson, a researcher of many. different cryptids in Tennessee. What has the Crypted Studies Institute uncovered in the town of Indian Mound, Tennessee? And what makes this Bigfoot entirely like something you've never heard before? Find out this and more on Bigfoot Society. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got a special treat for you tonight or whenever you're listening to this.

Got Mr. Elijah Henderson with me from the Cryptid Studies Institute. From beautiful Clarksville, Tennessee. How's it going, Elijah? It's going good, brother. I'm not sure how beautiful Clarksville is because it's not a lot of nature here anymore. It's mostly city and I hate it. But the cool thing is it sounds like you're getting out in the woods, though. When I can.

When I can, if everybody doesn't mind, excuse my look tonight. As you can see, I sort of have sunglasses, shapes sunburned into me. I'm doing construction now. had me outside a whole lot recently. Oh, I got you. I got you. Tell me about, so let's talk about a little background first. So tell me all about what is the Crypted Studies Institute?

Well, the Crypted Studies Institute is the brainchild of my dad, Johnny Henderson. He and another researcher, you know, talked about going into a cryptid group. And, you know, then it was born, so to speak. It's existed for quite a long time since maybe about in 2015 or so. But our actual YouTube channel where we do all of our documentaries and whatnot, it's only been around for two, three years or so. But in that time, it's been a really great experience, done a lot of really great things,

talked to a lot of great people and whatnot. And yeah, I reckon we're trucking along. Our main spot of research is land between the lakes. in Tennessee and Kentucky. And we find ourselves there pretty often. And in fact, I think sometime in May, we got a trip of some friends plan to go out there too. Oh, that's awesome. How far away from land between the lakes are you guys?

So Clarksville, Tennessee, where I'm at, where I'm situated, it's in a really good spot. It's close to a lot of really popular, famous creature sites or spots of renown. from where I'm at, I'm close to about 50 minutes to an hour from Lamb Between the Lakes, about an hour from Montgomery Bell State Park where the Werewolf Springs is. I'm like 20 minutes or so from the Bell Witch haunting site. Hopkinsville or the Hopkinsville Goblins, you know, stuff happened. If you're into ghost, you know, close to LBL's Fort Donaldson, I believe it's a supposedly haunted battlefield.

And, yeah, White Bluff, where the White Bluff screaming stuff happening. A lot of stuff happened close to here. And I'm all, like, within an hour of it. So listeners, no. So the main episode, we're going to be focusing on Bigfoot. It's the cool thing about Elijah in, do you call yourself CSI or Cryptist Studies Institute? Usually go by Cryptist Studies Institute, but, you know, what everybody wants to call us, I reckon. So Elijah, he's talking.

telling me beforehand, they started out with Bigfoot and then they went into Dog Man. So the main episode is we're going to be talking about Bigfoot stuff. But Elijah is going to stick around for a Patreon after Patreon episode where he's going to talk specifically about Dogman stuff because I was like, man, I've got you on here. I'm trying to focus on Bigfoot, but I would be remiss if I didn't spend a, some time afterwards talking to you about what, you know, from what I've heard, you guys are considered some of the experts on the subject. But the other cool thing, Elijah, is you were kind enough to share a few sounds my way. Let's start off by playing a few of those and getting your commentary on. Some of them are very interesting. We're going to play the Bigfoot ones,

and I will save the Dogman ones for the after show for the Patreon. But, Any specific Bigfoot one you want to start out with or just I'll I'll pick for you. Man, dealer's choice. You've got, well, let me, let me play it here first and then we will do some commentary. So I'm going to play it one more time a little bit louder. I said, that's very interesting. And I think I want to play this, the other one right after it, because it's kind of, they're similar. Okay, so what's the story behind those two, Elijah?

So let me give you a little bit of background on the region that comes from. That comes from Indian Mound, Tennessee. And Indian Mound is actually about 27 minutes from Land Between the Lakes, which is very ironic. But I have some people that lives on, you know, good piece of property up there. And they're basically like grandparents for me. I've known them my whole life. So, you know, they're like grandparents. But they've lived on this property for like 16.

16, 17 years. And most of the time they've been there, there's been something on their property. And, man, it's been a great research spot down there because it's great in the way a lot of the time you don't have to go out, you know, and hike around in the woods and try to stir something up. If you just sit outside with a fire, generally something will come up and start making noise at you or you'll just be shooting the breeze outside and you'll hear something off in the distance. oh, there's the Bigfoot, you know. Those, that whoop, that first whoop, we were actually sitting in their yard, around a campfire, you know, shooting the breeze with the family.

And it's like something got curious and came close, you know, fairly close by and heard activity going on. And it was kind of curiously whooping, I guess, to get our attention. Now, that secondary whoop, the people who own the property, they left a audio recorder, out all night and they caught that one that's how he's gotten a lot of noises

I've actually got like folders of audio clips from him which may or may not have anything on it a lot of them I'll probably just have to go through and see if there's something there but he's gotten a lot of weird noises just by leaving like a little Tupperware bowl with a voice recorder sitting in overnight

and that second one I think it might have been called like S2 whoop something like that it uh it's a lot higher pitch so i kind of suspect maybe that was a juvenile because it had like a much higher tone to it oh absolutely it's like when i heard him i was like are these like it sounds like almost like gibbons from the zoo this is incredible like and these are just out in tennessee at some dude's properties pretty much it's well i'm going to play the second one one more time since we were just talking about it. That's wild, dude.

Oh, man. And it's probably the most unique Bigfoot spot I've ever been to. And the reason I say that is, before I get into that, let me give everybody kind of a lay of the land. Indian mound is a pretty rugged spot, you know. It's starting to get some construction in the area. It's starting to, you know, see some traffic, so to speak. but it still got quite a bit of nature to it.

There's a, I believe it's a nature reserve. It's called Cross Creeks pretty close by to this property. And there's quite a bit of nature there. We found, you know, evidence of like bear up in the region. You know, there's wild boar up there. But this particular spot where these people are living at, it's off the road.

You drive up a gravel road up a hill, and they live kind of up on top of a hill and they're surrounded by lots and lots of woods. There's a couple of houses like around them, you know, a couple of different properties, but basically it's all out in the woods and some fields and whatnot. Now, the thing that makes it the most unique Bigfoot spot I've ever been to is that in the time we've been there, it imitates a donkey.

And there's not a donkey up there. But when I was a little boy, there used to be a donkey like way down the road. And where they live from where the donkey was, you would never be able to hear that. You know, it's just too far of a distance. But up on top of that hill where their property is, you'll hear donkeys braying out in the woods. And there's nothing like that in those woods. And they'll, you know, bray in different points on the property.

I have an audio clip somewhere in there like two or three. three donkeys bring at the same time. And, yeah, man. It makes it really wild because in this day and age, there is no more donkey anywhere around. And he's even asked his neighbors before, hey, are you ever here like a donkey out here? And his neighbor told him, there's no donkey out there. There ain't been donkey out here long time or there's never been a donkey out here.

So there's something around there that's imitating a donkey. That's wild. I'm going to play the sound in a few in a minute. But it's just, so the weird thing is, is like, you know, I've interviewed people about Bigfoot for a few years. And what I've got so far is Bigfoot try to make sounds that don't make sense. There are people that will hear what they think sounds like a car door in the middle of the woods. far from away from any cars. That doesn't make sense.

And who's to say that they couldn't do a donkey impression? And let's listen to it right now. This is really fascinating. Here we go. Now, everybody can hear that there's like two or three donkey sounds there. And historically, from when I was a boy, I only ever seen one donkey down the road. That's like three, four don't know what to. I don't know what to think of that, man.

And it sounds like no tracks have been found, no donkey tracks, nothing like that. Nothing like that, man. Wow. This is all like rugged woods. Like on one side where you could hear some of these sounds, it's a thick wooded hill and it goes straight down a hill like into a deep ravine. And then it comes back up on the other side. It's all just like one deep ravine. I'll be working out there since he's like my grandpa on the day.

And I'll just hear like a donkey brain in the woods. I'm like, oh, there's that, there's that bigfoot. Somewhere, I've got a recording and I haven't been able to find it. I would love to have it back. I don't know if it got deleted or what. We were sitting around the fire there one night because me and my dad, we'd made a geodesic dome and put it out on the property and used it like a big giant tent, you know, through a welder's tarp over the top of it.

We were sitting around a fire around that campsite, which was smack dab right in the woods. that donkey started braying pretty close to the camp, you know, real deep sounding. And it sounded like he got strangled on something. Like it got strangled on its own spit. And it started like trying to bray and there was like coughing at the same time. It was a good audio clip. I haven't been able to find it.

It drives me mad sometimes. I'll be looking through everything. Can't find it. That would drive me nuts because it's like, yeah, because that's like something's trying to imitate it. And then it's got like a frog in its throat or something. It was some impressive audio. And man, you hear all sorts of stuff out there.

We've heard like things that sound like cows up there. As far as I know, there's no cows. Tropical bird sounds, you know, stuff that just sounds like out of the ordinary. At least in the entirety, I've been there. I've never seen a cow close to that, close to that property that I can recall. but sometimes you'll hear it like some of those audio clips in there it's coming like from out of the woods, you know, where nothing like that would be.

You said this is Indian Mound. Yes, sir. It's about 27 minutes from the opening of the south end of land between the lakes. Is it named because there is an Indian mound in that area, I would imagine? That's why it's named that. Oh, man. And I'm friends with a safety man who he used to have, you know, things happened to him down there, some unusual things when he was a younger man.

And he knows where the Indian mountains are. So they're still down there. I don't know where they are. But he said he was, you know, doing some hunting pretty close to one one night. And he gave us like a weird supernatural encounter. Some of those audio clips are as recent. It is like probably around September, October 22. What do you, do you have a feeling?

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you know something supernatural or something interdimensional because you got all these folk that report, it just vanished right before my eyes or I watched it step into a portal. You got your more unusual stories like that. And then you got something that comes from a more grounded point of view. Like I was watching it. It was knelt down and eaten out of a blueberry bush, you know, just something like that. I've actually got hair samples here that was genetically tested

and came back as undocumented primate. So I think there is something physical running around in some capacity. But I think a lot of the things people see, there is something supernatural, you know, impersonating something like that or appearing as it. You know, there's a lot of confusion that could be spread, you know, if something out there demonic is posing as one of these things, you can really stir the pot. I know it. You do have to be aware of what you're investigating, etc. As some listeners may be aware.

But stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages. So you sent it off to a lab and unknown primate, really? Well, it wasn't me that sent it off. What happened was when I was a, when I was a boy, We used to go to these groups. Are you familiar with Mary Green? Yes, yes.

But for listeners who aren't, would you mind describe that quick summary? Yeah, absolutely. Cool. Mary Green was a famous Bigfoot researcher, and she did a lot of work with the Chattahoochee Bigfoot Research Organization. And when I was a little boy, you know, we joined that group and they would have annual gathering. in Standing Stone State Park. That's where they did a lot of research. We've done a lot of research.

It used to be a really good spot, and it's declined pretty badly. But Mary Green, you know, she wrote the book 50 years with Bigfoot, which they got an audiobook of it on YouTube, but it's been impossible to get a physical copy anymore. But she's a very well-known woman. She would have sort of more, in her research, it seemed to take more of a personal relationship with the Bigfoot because, you know, she would have specific Bigfoot she worked with in Standing Stone that she would call by name. She'd go under this spot called Grumpy's Place or Grumpy spot. And there's a Sasquatch there named Grumpy that, you know, they'd sometimes have experiences with.

I forget the names of the other one. That was when I was a little boy. But, yeah, she, for one of those annual conferences that they had up there, they had a sort of raffle that they were doing. And they had like a poster board sitting on a table. And you know, they'd have different prizes. And one of the prizes was some of those hair samples. And they had, you know, pictures of the results of the hair that came back from the lab. And just as a nice gesture, Mary gave me and my sister like three bags, like, with a couple of strands of that hair in it.

And, yeah, that's how we got a hold of that. Nice. There you go. There you go. I love it. Chattahoochee, is that in Georgia or Tennessee? It was Georgia. Well, we'd meet up in Tennessee.

It was over in Overton County at Standing Stone State Park. And it used to be such a good spot, man. But I'm not going to name names publicly. But from what I heard, a very well-known TV, Bigfoot researcher went over there and was firing guns and you can't hardly get anything to show up there anymore. I've heard like sort of outside of the park that people have stuff happened, but actually in the park of the old locations. So has Bigfoot been in your family DNA for quite a while, Elijah?

Like our family history and whatnot? Yeah, yeah. Sorry, that was a really weird way to say that. My apologies, I was like, oh, it's no problem. Yeah, got weird. Yeah, family history. Let's say that. Yeah, so there has been a lot of Bigfoot stories in my family.

So my dad, my grandma, all come from East Tennessee over at Dayton, Tennessee. And for those that aren't familiar with that area, it's a small town. Even today, it's small, but, you know, it's starting to get bigger. It's where the famous Scopes Monkey Trial took place, you know, which was basically the start and of evolution being taught in the schools. It was the creation versus evolution court debate, so to speak. And that's the same town where that took place. But, you know, there's a been quite a bit of activity happen up there.

My family used to own some property up there. They were, you know, in the 60s. They'd been there for a while, but this took place sometime in the 60s. Where they lived, it was down a old gravel road, and there's trees on both side and they'd kind of curl over like this and make the road really dark at night. It would block out a lot of the light

and they'd be coming down that road at night after getting their business done in the day, whatever it was. And they would hear something following them up on the hillside. They'd see little stones coming down the hill, you know, kind of rolling down the hill as it was walking.

They would walk, it would walk and follow them if they'd start running, they would run. Or if they'd just stop, it would stop, you know, classic Bigfoot. And they would run back to the house and this thing would be coming after him. And they'd close the door. And they didn't have like a deadbolt or anything like that on their door. So they'd push the stove up against the door to try to keep this thing out.

And they'd see the doorknob, you know, the door kind of shaking back and forth like that. And it didn't seem to know how to operate the actual doorknob mechanism. But I guess it watched them. and, you know, it was grabbing the door and shaking it. Things continued down there, and the family one night was sitting around, you know, listening to Loretta Lynn records. Nice. And they heard some sort of noise coming from the window that looked over, and they seen something looking in at them. I think I was told that it was kind of growling or kind of raspy breathing something or other.

But it had glowing red eyes, his watching them. and it kind of had a monkeyish appearance, but it had a wide nose like an old man. It was described to me. And, you know, this was the deep south, you know, over in Appalachia. So what did they decide to do? They took the rifle outside and they were going to try to shoot this thing. But, you know, get outside.

It's gone. Can't find anything. Well, things progress a little more. And on my Aunt Myrtle's farm, they're having hogs come up missing, you know. And at that time, you know, hogs were a staple. They were their food. You know, you could trade them if you wanted to. They were just really a staple resource for the people up there.

And to have them come up missing was a big problem. So one of my uncles, one of them, he's not living anymore, but he was one of the meanest men to ever buy the daylight. You know, nothing really scared him. He did a stay cat with some other folk. And, you know, they were watching to see who was coming up here taking the hogs. well, they described that something that looked like a gorilla loped out of the woods, stepped over the fence into the hog fence, picked one up by its front legs, by its back legs, slung it over its shoulders like that, traipsed back into the woods.

And he said he wouldn't have shot it for anything. It would just made it mad and would come and kill us. But, I mean, hogs are massive. My sister's got a mini pig. He's not many anymore. but I can't even wrangle him, you know. So something just coming in there and grabbing actual hogs, grabbing them by the legs,

throwing it's over its shoulders and just taking off with it. That's some force there. I cannot imagine seeing that with my own eyes, man. That must have been wild. It's so cool. Be so cool, man. And I guess the last thing from up of that property that I know of is one of my,

he was either a cousin or an uncle. I'm sorry, I can't remember which, but he was riding his horse out in the field around that property. And as it was described, there's one of those bigfoot sleeping in the field and his horse jumped over it, and it scared the bigfoot, it jumped up and run,

it scared the horse, it started doing this thing, and obviously it scared my family member. Some versions of the story, it bucked him off, and some versions of the story, he was able to hold on to it. But either way, that horse jumped over a Sasquatch and it terrified both of them. Bigfoot got up and run.

And sometime after all this stuff had happened, the neighboring county started having newspaper reports of a wild man around there. And they didn't really have anything go on there anymore that I know of. So I guess it moved on, whatever it was. That's good. Man, is that property still in your family then? No, there's a... Oh, man. Oh, what was it?

it's like the housing projects. They're built there now. It's on a hillside and it's kind of overlooking, you know, some of the town. But at that time, it was a lot more wooded and whatnot. I've got a picture of like the old place. I can privately send it to you later if you want to see sort of where it was at. Because it's only like a shot of like one of the houses. You can't really see the woods, but you can see the house that was there is off in the distance.

See, this is why people don't get like, how. how can these Sasquatch be seen like so close to houses? Well, it's because the areas where we're building houses used to be extremely wooded. And we just cut all the trees down and put up some parking lots and stuff. And, you know, it's like, that's how it happens.

It's crazy. In your area, yeah, I love hearing about like the regional Bigfoot stories. Like the names you don't hear, the names that you're not going to see in the books. Are there, you know,

creatures that are well known in your area that have like the crazy nicknames like there's an Alabama white thing or any bigfoot type creatures down in your area well close to me not in Clarksville because Clarksville's pretty awful I'm not going to lie it's pretty awful I've heard a bigfoot story or two from up here in Clarksville but it's all neighboring things we got about 40, 50 minutes from here with a white bluff screamer. And that place is unique because you've got almost like two variations of the way it's told. Some variations are that it's like a supernatural spirit type thing. And then some variations are more of like a told like it was a big foot.

Excuse me if I forget some of the details, but it's the most famous story that I know of attributed to it was something to the effect of every night. This is probably like 17-18-100s, something like that. But this fella, you know, he's in his home, and late in the night he'd hear just some sort of blood-curdling scream off in the woods. And, you know, this would repeat, I guess, for a night or two or however long. But he eventually was hearing it again one night, and he decided he was going to go check it out, whatever this was. So, you know, he got his gear, whatever that was. I guess it would have been a lantern and a gun. Went off in the woods storming off after this thing. And he would hear these

blood curdling screams and he'd approach him, but he could never get closer to him. They was always kind of moving further away. And then when he got so far off in the woods, he heard all these horrible screams coming from his house. And he turned around, ran back to his house, got home, and his wife and kids had been just massacred by something. And I remember hearing something like he looked at his window and he could see like a white big foot of shape standing there. And there's, I want to say they had left like footprints in the grass that almost looked like they'd been burned into the grass.

Now, like I said, sometimes it'll be told in more of like it was a spirit. Sometimes it'll be told more like it was a Sasquatch. Now, I do got a buddy up there who he got some recordings. I want to say he said it was as a train was going by, but it sounds like Godzilla roaring in the distance. If anybody wants to hear that, I've got a white bluff screamer video on my channel, and that audio's in it, not trying to self-promote or anything,

but if anybody wants to hear the audio, it's there. Oh, everyone should go over. So the thing is, I'm sure half the people have been there and subscribed and the other half need to. go there, watch the video, and subscribe, and hit the bell because Cryptist Studies Institute YouTube channel is legit. It's good. I should appreciate that, man.

You're good stuff. So, yeah, it's going to be in the show notes, don't you worry. But at the end of the day, you're saying that this, the story is that this white Sasquatch took out a family or almost a whole family. That's wild, man. Yeah. Whether it was a big foot, some sort of. of evil spirit, something. That's one of the stories attributed to it.

And now, I mean, just right close to that area. I mean, it's basically same area. White Bluff is basically smack dab up against Montgomery Bell State Park. And there's Bigfoot activity up there. My dad seen another researcher named Nathan Davis seen three of them up there in 2009. And even Mary Green, who we talked about earlier, said that the Bigfoot up there were known to be kind of of a violent variety. And on the backside of the park there, you got Werewell Springs where historically there's been more what seemed to be dog man sightings up there, violent dog man sightings. So all this crazy stuff is going on in the same area as the Bellwitch Cave? Well, from Clarksville, it's about 20 or so minutes.

So it's probably like an hour or, or, or so from Montgomery Bell State Park, but it's all roughly in the same area. I mean, Bellwitch stuff happened in Robertson County. And in that same county, you know, there's been Bigfoot reports. There's a,

you got the Critter of Car Creek up there. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages. It's a weird area, man. Dude, I mean, that's close enough for me. Like, I, if I'm, if I'm like an hour away from the Bellwitch Cave,

That's close enough for me. That stuff, that's wild, man. But tell me about the critter. What's the story on the critter there? Well, the critter of Car Creek, it's kind of described as like a hyena. And you can find newspaper reports about it. The critter of Car Creek, as they called it. And every now and then people still see some sort of hyena-ish-looking canine up there.

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He's an electrician's expediter, and we're out there talking one day. He said he was from Robertson County, Springfield area. I was like, man, they still see them a hyena-looking things up there. And he shook his head, yeah, people still see them up there. Whoa. So maybe that's some of the dog man that are up there, you know, because sometimes they'll go from on all fours to upright. Maybe it's like just some hyena that was in a circus show and got released up here.

I don't know, man. But some of those, you'll see the name America's. hyena thrown around on the internet for some things being seen. And listeners may have just got a little bit of a hint as to how to ask someone about if they've seen a creature the good way, which is, hey, you ever seen the, you know, just be nice about it, be kind of, you know, don't be super direct and serious. Just be a nice guy and, man, you're going to get some info. That's how you do it.

Man, I tell you what, being around all these people in construction, they know exactly what I do. I'm always shooting the breeze with them about Bigfoot and whatnot. And I'll go up to them and I'll be like, man, you know, this is going to be random. But in my experience, it seems like everybody's got at least one bizarre story to tell in their lifetime, at least one weird things happen that they can't quite account for.

You ever had anything like that? and he'll kind of be like, well, you mean like supernatural? I mean like, yeah, you know, supernatural, Bigfoot, anything like that? And he'd be like, well, I was in this house when I was a young man and it was attributed to be haunted. And me and my buddies were up there and we were up in the attic. And all at one time out of nowhere, all the doors in the house, every single door in the house just slammed shut all at once. And we got the heck out of there. And I don't think he's a gentleman that generally believes in that type of thing.

So everybody seems to have at least one story to tell generally. That is a great piece of advice, too, about how to approach someone. Like, what's your weird thing? Oh, that's so good, man. I love it. I'm going to remember that one, too. Are you a guy that tries to go after the reports that are held by the reports that are held by the, the state forestry and the state parks in your state,

do you do any of those report things or stick more to witness reports? Well, we sort of just have areas, you know, we've always went to, you know, as family, like, hey, there's a been activity up here. Let's go up here. So I usually hit the same spots. Over in Dayton, Tennessee, there's a park up there called Pocket Wilderness or, I think, the newer names like Laurel Falls or Laurel State Falls or something like that. but the town's always called it pocket wilderness.

One of the rangers, the officials up there, he'll be pretty open and just tell you, yeah, there's Bigfoot in this park. I've had people that, let me back up. There's been a, like a lot of coal mining done in that park before. Okay. And there's a ventilation shaft that you can walk up to that's right along the path. Basically on one half you got all these,

this beautiful water rushing and big giant boulders. and on this other side, you got the hills going right up to the mountain. It's the most beautiful park I've ever been to. But there's a ventilation shaft on one of those hillsides, and he's had like five different people tell them that they've seen a big foot coming out of that ventilation shaft. It only goes so far back, but it's, you know, it's full of water and whatnot, and maybe something goes in there, drink or just get shelter. It's not extremely big.

But even he's seen it. It was throwing stuff off of one of the hillsides at his truck. I remember he said something like that someone told him they were hiking up somewhere along that hill, and they seen one up there. I believe it was a reddish color, and it was a fairly violent Bigfoot. But yeah, I've got him. I wouldn't post it because I wouldn't want him to lose his job or anything.

But I've got audio of him recorded telling us about it. And even his boss told him, man, stop telling people. people this stuff. You're going to scare somebody, but he just seems to keep telling people. Elijah, how do you get a park ranger to get, like, to be, like, you just ask him, hey, you're okay with being recorded talking about Bigfo or how does that go down? He's super cool about it. Okay, okay.

You'll go up there and he'll just kind of be leaning on a post. I guess he loves the history of the park. Real good guy. He's like, you want some history and he'll go up and just shoot the breeze and they'll tell you about like the history of the park, show this, like, photo album. he's made of like the ventilation shafts and the there's like an old dynamite shack he'll show you pictures of and he just kind of i guess just sort of transition the conversation or at some point he may just kind of tell you yeah there's there's something up here but i remember even

seeing somewhere online where somebody was talking about the ranger up there you know telling him a bigfoot stories like just some random post online oh he's super open about it Yeah, I mean. He may still be up there. I haven't seen him in a long time, but that's wild. Real cool guy. The thing I love about your area, it is so rich with just wild, untamed stories of creatures and supernatural and things you can't explain. And everybody seems to be into it.

It is awesome. It's a weird spot down here, man. Does that ever get old? I love all sorts of weird stuff. So I'm like, oh man, we got all this down here. We got Bigfoot over here. We got Dogman over here. I love it, man.

I mean, it's like you're living Scooby-Doo pretty much. Like, you just go out on the weekends and, you know. What's really ironic is where I live historically before this was Tennessee and Kentucky. Some organization called like the Henderson organization, which. It's ironic, the Henderson Foundation, something. No, maybe it's just a bunch of Henderson's, but they are with the Transylvania Company. And this land around here actually used to be called Transylvania.

So, I mean, how's that for ironic, you know? Jeez. Wow, that's weird, man. Looking for monsters in Transylvania. That is crazy. Was there ever a time that, you know, I know you said early, that you earlier in all this, you guys were Bigfoot 100%. Was there ever a time when you're out looking for Bigfoot that things just got to a point where you're like,

you know what? I'm not sure if I want to be right here right now. Like, it just got a little bit too crazy. Well, actually, there has been a time or two like that over in an Indian mound. This was, I was still fairly young at the time. I was with my dad, fellow researcher. His name was Jason A.C. And my sister.

And we're walking, it's on somebody's like, around somebody's property, like where they've built now. So we can't really get to it as well as we could years ago now. But we were crossing one of the fields out there. And there's a, there is a cave off on, in the, woods somewhere over in that area and we're going to that cave. It's a big rock face and it's a pretty narrow gap that you can crawl into and it opens up. But it's a fairly decently sized cave, but it's a tight entrance in the front. You know what I mean?

But anyway, we were going to that cave and we spied some blue eyeshine off in the woods, which there's not really a lot of animals that give off blue eyeshine. We had heard that juvenile animals have a blue eye shine color, and we didn't know if maybe there's some sort of a, like a juvenile Sasquatch there. It was low to the ground, and there's kind of a ditch behind where it was. And, you know, we shined her lights at it and just kind of stared at it for a few minutes,

and then went further off in the woods toward this thing, well, toward the cave, my bad. And we're walking along, and I got this audits, go somewhere. You hear just something snapping. You can hear like the individual fibers of a tree snapping. And then boom, this tree just slams on the ground. And I heard something hollering. I don't think anybody else with me. He heard it, but I heard it. And that was one of the only times my dad has ever drawn his gun in the woods. He's like, yeah, Jason, you and me, we can come back if you want, but I need to get my kids out of here. You know, this is, this is dangerous. And he had his

gun out and ready in case something in case something came out. But we left. We didn't know if maybe we got too close to its juvenile and it was kind of letting us know, hey, stay out of here. But that's one of the only times I ever seen my dad draw a gun in the woods. And we're not like pro kill people, but you know, we're pro. If something attacks us, we're going to defend ourselves. You know what I mean?

You're pro. I'm going to get out of this alive if I have anything to say about this. Absolutely. You can attack me, but I'm going to go out fighting, you know what I mean? That's right. That's right. I don't know your thoughts about this, but it's like if someone actually, you know, let's say these groups where it's like, we're going to take down a big foot.

Well, dude, you might, but it's going to be the worst day you've ever experienced after you take down that big foot. And the other three come out just disgruntled as I'll get out. And dude, you guys are going like, I don't want to wish. bad on anyone, but it's like, man, you just be careful. If you're going to take one down, you better be ready for its brothers that are coming after you. Well, you know, you got all these stories of people shooting these things and nothing happens. But you don't hear a lot if people try to shoot toward the face and eyes or the neck, you know. If I was going to try to shoot something like that, I would aim for probably either the neck, the mouth, or the eyes, you know,

of the sensitive areas. That's interesting. Yeah. That's very interesting. I've never thought that deep about it. I'm not a, I'm not a, a super outdoors man,

if you can imagine. But yeah, that's interesting to think. That's an interesting discussion there. Well, if you, I mean, if you think about it,

if it was something, you know, some sort of ape-like thing that's as massive as people say, you already got a lot of thick muscle on its chest. And then you got that thick chest bone that the bullet would have to penetrate. And if you aim for the head, you know, if it's like an ape,

you also have a lot of apes have kind of that thick brow that you'd have to worry about as well. So you better be carrying something with some knockdown power. You know, just something like that. I think we'll go to LBL tomorrow night or something. Dude, that is, man, this has been a super fun. discussion. I think a good intro discussion to what you all are up to

down there in Tennessee. And guys, you need to go over to Elijah's YouTube channel next after you're done listening to this. And you just need to start watching some of those videos because there's some wild, wild

stuff going on in there. Elijah, thank you so much for hanging out with me in the main show. We're going to be talking for a little bit longer about some dog man stuff, some LBL stuff that's going to be for the Patreon after show. I've got maybe some other questions to ask you about some other non-bigfoot-related creatures.

Absolutely. Please take a few minutes. If there's anything else that you would like to make sure the listeners know anything you need to plug besides the YouTube channel, go right ahead, man. Thank you, brother. And I've had a blast on here as well, just so you know. Thank you. My main outfit is Crypted Studies Institute. My main platform is YouTube.

I upload all my investigations, documentaries, and whatnot all there. You can find most, if not all, those sounds. Well, not one of them because I just haven't uploaded it. But a lot of our sounds are on there. You can go and listen to or they'll be in the videos for each area. But yeah, come over and check out the channel. Let me know what you think. We got a lot of different dogman research videos, Bigfoot.

Got a lot of different things on there. And yeah, I guess that's all I got. If you want to send me a friend request on Facebook, feel free to. We're on Facebook. We got an Instagram that I don't really use anymore. Sorry. But yeah, that's basically it, y'all. That's awesome.

And if the cool thing about this podcast is I have like listeners all over the place. If there's a person, let's say if they know something weird in that area, how best can they get in touch with you to say, hey, man, I got to tell you about what happened to me in this area so you know about it. Well, you can always drop me a comment on YouTube, send me a message on Facebook or my email is Crypted Studies Institute at gmail.com. I'll try to get back as quick as, you know, when I can. I'm sorry. I'm bad about getting back quickly. You know how that went, Jeremiah. I have good intentions, but I'll generally forget to reply back to somebody.

I'll get a message. Oh, yeah, I'll reply that in just a few minutes. And I'll forget. It'll be like two days later. That's all right. Whoops. Well, yeah, I'll try to get back to everybody when I can. So listeners, if you got stuff that you haven't told anyone about this,

Tennessee area hook my dude Elijah up but Elijah thank you so much for hanging out and remember if you're in the Patreon go have a listen because we're going to be talking about lBL and dogman and the rest of y'all can check that out to patreon.com for slash the bigfoot society but thank you so much for coming on Elijah I know problem brother become a supporting member of the Bigfoot Society podcast by going to www. patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society and receive extra episodes and early ad-free episodes as well. If you've got a personal Bigfoot encounter you would like to submit for me to

share on the podcast, please head on over to www.w. com. There you'll find the share your Bigfoot Encounter form, a little lower on the page, and please take a minute to share as many details as you can. Please state if the encounter is anonymous or what name you would like associated with the encounter. And as always, thanks for listening. On this episode of plant killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt.

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