Bigfoot Society - Bigfoot in the Redwoods: A Wild Ride Through the West Coast

Episode Date: September 18, 2025

In this gripping episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast, we’re joined by Mr. T, a seasoned Bigfoot researcher who has spent over five decades investigating sightings across the West Coast. From Wash...ington’s misty forests to California's rugged mountains, Mr. T shares firsthand accounts of rock-throwing Sasquatch, spine-chilling encounters, and mysterious events that defy explanation. He discusses his deep research into areas like the Cleveland National Forest, Mount Rainier, and the Olympic Rainforest, all hotspots for Bigfoot activity. You’ll hear stories from locals about strange sightings, eerie noises in the woods, and government cover-ups that continue to keep Bigfoot’s true nature hidden. Whether it’s the Zoobie sightings in San Diego or the hair-raising leap of a Sasquatch across a highway, this episode will take you deep into the forests where the legend of Bigfoot is alive and well.Resources:1975 Environmental Atlas - https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/1975-environmental-atlas-washington-sasquatch-bigfoot-references/Mysteries and Monsters: Bigfoot at the Border: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1IJ8VBxRBU🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:01:38 from the misty woods of Washington to the hidden corners of California. But these aren't just sightings from a researcher. Their firsthand accounts of encounters so intense, they'll make you question everything you thought you knew about the forest. So get ready for rock-throwing Sasquatch, shadowy figures, and some of the most mysterious events you'll ever hear. And this is a story of Mr. T, a Bigfoot investigator. So stay with us.
Starting point is 00:02:03 All right, Bigfoot Society. We've got the privilege of talking to Mr. T. today. Mr. T is a Bigfoot researcher. He's been on the west coast of the United States looking around in different areas since about 1974. So we are looking at roughly about 50 years of Bigfoot that will be discussed today. So welcome to the show, Mr. T. How's it going?
Starting point is 00:02:25 It's going great. Oh, man, we were talking a little bit before, and it's going to be a really, really interesting one. We'll be going to some cool places with this one. But, you know, Mr. T, when I talk to an individual that has so much background as yourself, I would love us to start real quick. If you could, you know, let us know what is it that got you into the Bigfoot field to begin with? Well, like everybody else, just watching the TV shows with Leonard Nimoy back in the day,
Starting point is 00:03:00 And, you know, it just kind of seemed like something interesting. So just started looking into it. And I got, of course, the Patterson Gimlin film wasn't showed a whole lot on TV back in the 70s. So I decided to go into the library and do some research at the Seattle Library. And there wasn't much information. and there was only like two or three books. And so I was looking through the books and I'm like, okay, this is interesting. And of course, all the original guys that were researching it, you know, there's some pretty credible guys.
Starting point is 00:03:43 I mean, anthropologists. And of course, it all started from the Yeti over in the Himalayas. So I kind of just started doing research. And then I was just like, the books ended. I was like, what's going on? life, there'd be no more information on this in the library. I actually went through, looking through newspapers on those flash drives they have to be able to look up old stories and just everything ended about in the 80s.
Starting point is 00:04:16 I was like, what is going on? It was almost, in my opinion, like, they were protecting it, that they figured out it was the real deal. And they were like, hey, either we shut this down now or people are going to go and start hunting this thing and killing it. and we have to protect it. And most people that don't know this, Washington State has been protecting Bigfoot
Starting point is 00:04:36 in the Skarminia County. They have a law that if you shoot a Bigfoot, they will arrest you and give you a huge fine. So I was looking into that and I was like, man, I never really knew about that. But I grew up in Washington State in the North Seattle area. And so I had always been wondering about, these stories. And so I went into looking more into it and found out that they do exist and
Starting point is 00:05:18 the government protects them. And there is a map that they also made from the Corps of Engineers stating that there was Bigfoot. And then they covered up that whole thing and took it off the Corps of Engineers State of Washington, and that was like in the 70s or 80s. I can't remember, but do you remember anything like that? Yeah, so I've actually found that document that you're referring to. I'll put a link to it in the show notes for this one, but it is very, it's wild when you read it. I mean, like, they really get into it. So, yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Yeah, so that was kind of the start of it. And then I just kind of went from there. And then in 1974, we decided to go over. camping in the Olympic rainforest. And we got over there. We set up tent and camp on this river. And we hiked in about an hour. And if you've never been to the Olympic rainforest, I mean, I always tell the people
Starting point is 00:06:18 in Southern California, they're like, what? This place exists? I'm like, yes, the moss hangs 100 feet down from the top of the tree. And all the logs on the trail are covered in moss. So it's like you're in a prehistoric world almost. and you hike in there, you're just like blown away. It's like you've gone back in time. And so we set up our camp, and we fell asleep, and we woke up,
Starting point is 00:06:47 and one of the guys jumped out of the tent. There was like four of us, my older brother and a couple of friends, and he jumps out of the tent and says, baby moose, there's a baby moose. And so we're like, okay, what the heck? Let's get out of here. So we didn't really have any things going on that night, but we decided to start hiking around. And of course, we had not heard much about Bigfoot at that point in 74. So we started hiking around, and then we hiked up this mountain towards the end of the day, and we hiked straight up.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I mean, I'm talking like, by the end, we hiked for, like, close to an hour, and we're just pulling on roots, and it became so steep, we really couldn't go any further. And then all of a sudden, we heard this huge snort behind us, like, wow. And we were just like, what was that? And a branch snapped, and I thought, oh, that's got to be an elk. What could be up here to make a snort like that? But you could clearly hear it. I mean, it was like, so that was my first, you know, occurrence.
Starting point is 00:08:03 of something that I wasn't sure what it was. I don't know if it was Bigfoot, but it just seems weird that anything else up at that level would be, you know, an elk up at that height. And to have a tree snap and a loud snort like it was catching its breath. It was like something was tracking us going up there. Was that? There was no other record?
Starting point is 00:08:28 Sorry, was that in an area that's known for documented sightings as well? Yeah, later, I found out that, you know, that whole Olympic rainforest is, you know, very, a lot of stories in there. I mean, there's stories of loggers in the 1930s that had logged areas in there. And I don't know if you've ever heard these stories, but it goes back to old Washington estate loggers in the 1930s, and they were having a lot of their equipment damaged and stolen. And they were like, what is going on here? So they put in guards, and they hired guards, and put them on the perimeter of the thing,
Starting point is 00:09:11 and it kept happening. And they were putting armed loggers with guns on the perimeter of these logging camps, and a few of the guys disappeared, and they sent in people to look for them and never found them. And that whole story has been covered up. So there's something going on up there. And then there's other sightings of,
Starting point is 00:09:33 police officers. You know, I used to go to La Push and hike up in there. There's some great coastal areas. It's amazing. The whole place is like you're going back in time. If you ever hike up in there, you'll just be blown away. The Coast Highway is one of the best in the world. I mean, they have some of the top beaches ranked in the world in the top 10.
Starting point is 00:09:56 And they're known to go around the beaches as well to get kelp and other things. So that was a very strange thing that Olympic rainforest and what happened to us. Later, we went hiking up into the rainforest in the 80s. We decided, you know, because you could see the Olympic mountains from North Seattle, where we lived from Puget Sound. It was great sunsets, and we'd always dream about hiking up in there. So when you're the same people that I went with in 74, we said, hey, let's go over there and hike up to that top peak, which is called the Brothers.
Starting point is 00:10:39 And it kind of looks like a volcano, but it's one mountain in front of another. And so we're like, hey, let's go up there. We'll have this great hike, and we'll go up there and watch Fourth of July from there. And we thought it would be these great fireworks we'd be able to see. So we went up there and we hiked up, parked our car, and we hiked up this windy trail that went, you know, for hours we hiked. and came to a lake that was up there. And we took a break there, and then we hiked up further through the shale rock
Starting point is 00:11:13 and got literally on top of the mountain, almost to the top. It was crazy. It goes up to like 8,000 feet. And so we set up our tent, we're looking around, and we see all these mountain goats, and we're like,
Starting point is 00:11:31 man, those things are like the best hikers in the world. And apparently the mountain goats were all brought over there in the years from Europe. And they put them there to live and migrate. So we crashed out. We thought we saw some UFOs that night because it was so clear. And then earlier before we went to bed, we had seen these mountain goats. able to crawl down the steepest shale rock that you've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:12:12 You're like, how can they get down here? And we look back up and they're on their elbows and they're going slowly on their elbows. And we're thinking, man, this is crazy. So later that night, we had heard some loud footsteps around this tent. And we thought it was the mountain goats. We don't know for sure what it was because we were too scared to even look out of the tent. But it sounded like somebody was walking around, and it sure wasn't a goat or a hoof. So we woke up and got out of there, and it was scary because we didn't know what it was.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And I'm convinced they're up in that area. And definitely, every story you hear out of there, they're now talking about that area as totally Sasquist. much related. About the brothers specifically? Yeah. Well, that whole area. From what I've done my research, I found out that they like to stay in the higher elevations.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Because that way, nobody bothers them. And they, when they come down into the lower areas, if people are camping or they're curious, you know, they want to check you out. it's almost like they're special forces. They're flanking you. There's more than one,
Starting point is 00:13:43 and they're always in threes or fours, and they maneuver, and they talk to each other, and the Woodnox is part of their communication that I've figured out, and they're slowly moving to check you out because they're curious. And the Indians even spoke about this.
Starting point is 00:14:05 They would all tell you, if you do research on the, Northwest Indians and the ones up in British Columbia, they all say they stay out of the higher ground. They don't go up there. That's their world. And they're very, they tell, teach their young the same thing. Don't go up into the higher areas. So people that are hiking up there and think they're going to find some secret areas that, you know, they want to go camp and have a great time. The North Cascades, I've been up in there. That place is definitely, no human is up there.
Starting point is 00:14:40 They close the North Cascades Highway during the wintertime, and they don't let anybody in there anyways. So I know they're up in there, and they're all over Washington State. The most sightings with Bigfoot is in the Washington State and Northern California. So my brother also used to run trails
Starting point is 00:15:07 near Monte Cristo, and Monte Cristo is located in northern Washington on the west side and he used to run these trails back in the 80s, in the early 80s. And he would always say, hey, man, I feel like something's watching me. I'm like, what are you talking about? He goes, it freaks me out. I get up in there, and he used to be in incredible shape. The guy could run these trails.
Starting point is 00:15:38 There was another trail he'd run called Wallace Falls. And it's like a three-mile run. You're like running through steep terrain and up a trail and back down. And so he would do this money crystal trail like once a week. And he's like, hey, there's these creatures are, I feel like I'm being watched. And he says, I think it's Bigfoot. And I said, why would you say that? And he goes, because I've talked to some locals and they, this one guy told me that he said that they, they, the people that live up there, protect it.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And they don't tell people about it because they know they're there and they just don't bother anybody. they leave him alone. So that was kind of crazy. And our brother would always tell us about that. We were like, really? So I did that trail once with him, and I kind of felt weird like somebody was watching me, and then we got the heck out of there.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I want to, I need to clarify something real quick, because there's going to be listeners that are going to have a question. Because there's multiple places. I'll answer this way. This Monte Cristo Trail, is this in Skamania County or is it further north in Washington? It's further north. Okay. It's north of Snohomish.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Got it. Okay. So that's the one we're looking at. All right. I was thinking of there's a place by Trout Lake that is also called Monte Cristo. Yeah, it's been so long, but I'm pretty sure it's up past the Snohomish area. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:17:10 I'm seeing it now. Okay, cool. Thank you. Yeah, and then, you know, there was also a story that I tell people, and it was really bizarre because it was later on the news and they covered up the whole thing and you still can't find the story. I've Googled around trying to find it. You cannot find it.
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Starting point is 00:20:04 And he had this trailer in this trailer park. and later that night we had heard all this loud noise that almost sounded like a car crash it was crazy and we're just like what the heck is going on it wasn't in right next to history because there was a lot of trailers in there they were in rows and so it was super loud and so we just thought nothing of it so we woke up and I ended up leaving because I had to be back
Starting point is 00:20:35 in North Seattle for an appointment and he tells me that the cops showed up there was smash marks that no human
Starting point is 00:20:55 could put in these trailers I'm talking they were like at 10 feet tall like the height of a basketball where it just went running through they're smashing both sides of the trailers you know how they were like connected within rows
Starting point is 00:21:09 he was run So they thought it was some guy on, I don't know, but back in the 80s they have this drug called PCP. Cops would try to arrest these guys. They would take on three cops. And so everybody thought it was the guy on PCP that was some hippie because the hippies were still around in the early 80s. And he went through the trailer and he was some hippie living up in the woods and he smashed up all these trailers. And so that's what everybody thought it was. but lo and behold
Starting point is 00:21:41 they call the cops the cop came and apparently that night we had heard later that the cop chased drove outside there there was a road that left up outside
Starting point is 00:21:57 of the park area trailer park and shined his light on this creature and it was running up the road and then disappeared off this bank down into the woods. And that was on the news
Starting point is 00:22:13 and it was on King Five I believe it was King Five News and the story of this trailer part getting smashed up there was fisthole marks in all of these trailers like you couldn't believe when they went and documented
Starting point is 00:22:29 it later and the story since was gone and then it was, I've never heard of it since but I know that it happened because I was there I didn't see any of the smash marks, because I left, but the kid came back to work the next day and was like, you wouldn't believe what that trailer park looked like. Some of them were moved off their foundations, apparently, you know, because they're not that big. They're like double wives. And they were like, there's no way that a human could have done this.
Starting point is 00:23:03 So then they covered up the whole story because, you know, it was figured it wasn't a wild man. on drugs. It was the big foot. So that was a crazy story. Did you ever hear about that? I'm trying to think right now. I don't think I've ever heard about that. What year, you said 80s, right?
Starting point is 00:23:24 It was early 80s. Okay. Yeah, no, I haven't heard of it. Like 82. And then I had some other guys I worked with, and I would just like, I hadn't had very many encounters myself that I had seen anything except other than
Starting point is 00:23:41 you know, someone walking around our tent, up in the, you know, it was crazy up in the mountains. So later there was these guys I worked with, and I was asking them about it. They were younger kids. They were younger than me. I would say they're, at that time, I was in my 30s, and I was asking these younger guys that were working with me.
Starting point is 00:24:15 and they were, I said, hey, you know, because they told me where they lived, and one lived up past No Homish towards Arlington, which is pretty much out in the boonies, and have you, you know, had any sightings? And he says, funny, he said, asked me that, because we are relaxing and having a drink after work. And he was like, you know, nobody's ever asked me that. And so I knew he was telling me the truth. and he says he was coming from a party where the road, I think it was Highway 9,
Starting point is 00:24:49 was closed down that runs. They close it during the wintertime. It's up north of Snohomish, up towards Arlington. And he was coming. They had just opened the road at the springtime, and he was coming down the road by himself after the party at like five or six in the morning, right when the sun came up. And he says he's approaching this thing that looks like a bear
Starting point is 00:25:12 on the side of the road. And he slows down and he sees this thing and all of a sudden it stands up. He says it's like eight feet tall and it's all covered in hair. And he's just like dumbfounded. It doesn't even know what to think. He says as he gets within like 30 yards of the thing, it leaks across the road and two, he said it leapt across the two lane highway.
Starting point is 00:25:43 in two steps and then up this embankment that was like 30, 40 feet up at about a 40 degree angle. He said the thing jumped into that embankment and grabbed a couple of tree bushes or whatever and pulled himself and gone. And he says, I've never told anybody that story
Starting point is 00:26:07 because I knew everybody would think that was crazy. I said, do that. You know, once he told me the whole story, I was just like, there's no way that was a person. And then there was another guy that I worked with, and he had had a sighting at, I was asking him, you know, you ever had any things? He said, yeah, as a matter of fact,
Starting point is 00:26:26 I was when I was a kid, I was at Mount Rainier, and we were camping out, and I went down to the stream by myself, and it was like dusk, and he said he looked down the stream, and there was this creature bent over drinking water, and he didn't know what it was. He thought it was a bear at first. And he said that it stood up, and it was like eight feet tall that looked at him,
Starting point is 00:26:50 and it just walked away into the bushes. And I was like, man, that must have been scary. So there's always these people. It's best to just ask them, and you can tell if they're lying or not. And those are pretty credible stories for me from just people I met along the way. But that Piala thing, I mean, I've tried researching it and I still cannot find anybody. I've talked to a few people and a few people I've heard about that.
Starting point is 00:27:24 And they're like, yeah, I remember that. So I know it happened. It'll be interesting to hear if anyone listening also remembers that as well. But Mr. T, it sounds like did most of your research take place in Washington State then? Yeah. And then I, in the year 1999, I moved down to San Diego
Starting point is 00:27:50 area and then started doing some trips up into the you know, redwoods and California's an amazing state. I mean, it's just like three states combined and it's it has everything.
Starting point is 00:28:07 So as much as people want to talk trash about it, I always say, man, get up in there because there's 60,000 square miles. There's 60,000 square miles when people say, oh, it's all a myth.
Starting point is 00:28:21 I go, dude, we were in wagons, literally in wagons 120 years ago. None of those roads were even built. When they built, the logging roads was basically in the 30s and 40s and 50s
Starting point is 00:28:35 to even get into those areas. And the ancient Indians are not making up stories. They're telling you what they saw. And they told their kids not to go into those areas. Even the higher-up Indian chiefs and everyone told even the hunters to stay in their lane and not piss these things off because if you make them upset, you're going to pay the price.
Starting point is 00:29:08 So I started doing some research into the, Bigfoot a little bit more when I was in California and I was like, they've got to be up in here. And back to the 60,000 square miles of untracked territory that never hears the voice of man. That is from British Columbia all the way to Northern California. Washington, Oregon, Northern California, all the way down to San Diego.
Starting point is 00:29:46 There's actually a Cleveland National Forest that runs all the way to San Diego. And so I'll give him to some sightings that have been happening and have happened in San Diego. And the main one is a story told by a psychologist that worked at San Diego State, and he lived in Alpine, which is about 30, 40 miles from my house, because I live in East San Diego. So in the mountains, it's very mountainous. People think, oh, San Diego doesn't have any mountainous. I thought, what are you talking about? That's why I moved here.
Starting point is 00:30:25 There's mountains starting from the ocean at the beaches all the way, 50, 60 miles inland. It snows 60 miles inland up in the mountains. It goes up to 6,000 feet. and so I was told my Washingtonian friends still following me only goes up to about 3 to 3,500 square
Starting point is 00:30:48 you know above sea level maybe 4,000 you might get at certain higher levels in the north, up north and so it's very mountainous here and there is stories that I've researched
Starting point is 00:31:03 in San Diego and it's the story called the Zubis. And the reason he called them the Zubis is because the police officer that interviewed him thought that's what he said. So the guy was very credible. He was a, like I said, a psychiatrist, psychologist, whatever, at the San Diego State University, he had a couple kids. He bought this property way up in the boonies, about 30, 40 miles outside San Diego. in the mountains near the Indian Reservation, Viejas. And he claims these things were picking apples off his trees.
Starting point is 00:31:51 So he called the cop. The cop was a former San Diego police officer that took a job up there as a security cop for that area. So he was called in to check on the whole story. and he has documented what he said and there was two adults and two juveniles picking apples the guy freaked out he bought a gun, never owned a gun
Starting point is 00:32:23 and actually feared for his life I mean he just didn't know what was going on what are these things and so that story has been documented and then there was another story about a kid that was playing hiding go seek up there and wrote and documented the story and he was only about 13 at the time
Starting point is 00:32:46 and he claims he was hiding from his friends in the same area and it's right at the end of the Cleveland National Forest it actually ends right on Highway 8 as he come out of San Diego that Cleveland National Forest goes all the way up into the sequoias and Yosemite. It's the same deal, but it's narrower. It comes all the way
Starting point is 00:33:12 into San Diego. Even my brother when he was moved here, he's like, I can't believe there's a forest up here. It's crazy. I go, yeah, because San Diego's kind of like a coastal desert. And so, when you go up into these mountains, you're kind of blown away, and I've always felt things. I've always felt
Starting point is 00:33:29 a presence up there, up there of Bigfoot. And there's been stories of wood and other things up there as well, which we'll get into in a minute. But anyway, the story with the psychiatrist and the Zubis and the kid was playing hiding Bill Seek. He claims that this big foot right at dusk came and literally faced him where he was hiding and screamed so loud that it like shook the kid to pieces.
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Starting point is 00:36:20 And most people have never heard that story, but that is another great one. And so I started, like, hiking around up there, and I ride motorcycles up there. And I also have a sports car that I would drive up there with a top down. And I'd always, like, get up and there, and I'd always feel some type of type of presence. And I'm like, yeah, they're up here for sure. And then there's also been some stories of people that have camped up in that area, which is Mount Laguna. And then Mount Laguna goes up to Julian, and there's many sightings in Julian. There's actually a story of an area that you have to hike to about 45 minutes, and there's a big footprint that is in the rock.
Starting point is 00:37:08 So look that up because that's true, and it's been documented that there is a footprint that is more than a thousand years old, and it's into the bedrock. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's really intense. Yeah. Yeah, and that's intense. And believe me, I've been to a lot of places.
Starting point is 00:37:30 I've not hyped up to that spot. I'm thinking about it, but it's a ways away. It's like an hour outside of Julian up in the mouth. And there's been reports of the creature through people that lived up there that have been covered up, and they don't talk about much. And people think, oh, maybe it's gone out of here because, but no, there's families that live on, and they, and they, Most of them, in my opinion, have migrated out of certain areas to more denser population to feel safer because as population moves in, they kind of move out. And like I told you before, we were in wagons 120 years ago, and nobody went in there unless they went in by wagon. and even going into the sequoias where the giant trees are.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Those trees are only in that area. They're nowhere else in the world. And they're the age of Christ. They're 2,000 years old. They're, you know, 40, 50 feet in circumference, 300 feet high. I mean, you go in there and you're like in a whole other world. So anybody that hasn't been up there, I know they're up in there too, but they don't hang around where tourists are.
Starting point is 00:38:50 They're pretty much trying to move out. Like I said, some of their migrating families have stayed in certain areas because that's where they feel comfortable. And in the certain parts of these eastern mountains of San Diego, there's a lot of pockets where nobody ever goes. And if you go up to Mount Laguna, there's plenty of room up there.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Now I'm going to get to a story about, if you go past Julian, so it's Mount Laguna, up into Julian. It's the greatest motorcycle ride on the planet. And it runs 175 miles nonstop, no light. I mean, no stop signs of nothing. And you just go from mountain to mountain.
Starting point is 00:39:29 So it's Mount Laguna, Julian, and then you go through Santa Isabelle. And then there's a back road on Santa Isabel that runs, it's called Massa Grande. something like that. And it runs through these farms, and it's like literally eight miles until you come around to this biker bar. And it's called the hideout. And then there's Lake Henshaw. Now, every time I've gone through this secret road that kind of some guy turned me on to it years ago, motorcycle riding, I made him at the gas station.
Starting point is 00:40:09 He's like, yeah, there's this like back road. It's like you're driving through Ireland. I'm like, yeah, I got to check. that out. So I, every time I've gone through there, I get this weird presence that there's something there, like a big foot. And I'm like, this is a perfect area for him to hang out.
Starting point is 00:40:25 And so, when I went up in there, I'd had that feeling several times. There's wild turkeys up in there. There's deer, there's cows running around. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:41 And then you come out and you're down at the bottom. It's all windy. It goes down this hill. steep grade wandy road all the way down to the lake and then there's that biker bar in Lake Henshaw. Well, there's this guy that you have to check out and he's on YouTube
Starting point is 00:40:58 and his story is of the Bigfoot that come around his property he doesn't live there but his dad owned it and they had a trailer on there I think and that he had been going there
Starting point is 00:41:15 since he's a kid, but he still goes up there and parties with his friends. And he's on this show that I'm looking up here. And he has a property. It's called Mysteries and Monsters at the Border. So look that up on YouTube. It's called Mysteries and Monsters at the border. This guy is in the same area where I've done the motorcycle right at least 100 times. over the last 20 years.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I'm telling you, I had a feeling there's something in there. So I'm watching this, and I'm like, okay, I'm going to Google around and see about Bigfoot's in San Diego, which seems kind of unlikely, but there was all these stories. And here this guy has a story on that show, Mysteries and Monsters at the border, and it has several different stories on there about the Border Patrol that's seen them,
Starting point is 00:42:18 and ones that are in the desert because they're obviously migrating. Why are they in the desert? Because they're migrating back and forth. They're not sitting in the same place. They're moving, following the food. So Lake Henshaw, near that biker bar is where they apparently have had a lot of sightings. And this guy has a video of the creature. It's kind of dark, but it sure has had.
Starting point is 00:42:48 looks like one, like, you know, ones I've seen on other videos. And it comes up on his property and there's two or three of them. And he tells the whole story how they're like around his campfire and he spends the night there in his sleeping bag and they're like right above in. I mean, that's creepy. And how his buddy took a video and you can clearly see the creature in the video. So you got to watch it. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:43:15 And I was just blown away because I'm like, Like, that's exactly where I had that feeling. And I don't know exactly where his property is. Otherwise, I'd go knock on his door and say, hey, let me fix himself. But it's kind of a hidden property. And he says they mimic cows and owls, which they're very known for. And so even in his video, he goes, listen, dude, that's not a cow. There's somebody making that noise.
Starting point is 00:43:39 And when they come at night, when he goes up there with his friends, because he's not there all the time, they go up. They have a camp ring and a bunch of chairs. and it's like a little party zone for him. And I'm telling you, it's credible. There's something up there. And that whole lake, Lake Henshaw has in the middle of the lake, there's an area called Monkey Island. And he was making fun of that, that, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:05 Monkey Island, it must have been because of the Bigfoot monkey. But in reality, they may possibly name that because there were some monks that went up into that area. the back in it later, early 1900s, I don't know, whenever they had all the, all the missions, they were building up and down the West Coast with the friars. Okay. So then I'm thinking about,
Starting point is 00:44:32 so then I'm like researching about that, and I'm thinking, well, this Palomar, I've camped up there, and there's been some weird occurrences up there. There's been some sightings and stories of people that have camped and heard somebody running through their camped, campground, loud thuds. And then I found out. So this is where if you go past, so once you get to Lake Henshaw, there's the East
Starting point is 00:44:59 grade that runs up Palomar, and that goes up to 6,000 feet as well. Mount Laguna is at 6,000, then you come to Julian, then you go down to Lake Henshaw up. The other mountain is 6,000 at the top of that. So in that area, there's a protected area where, the telescope is. Okay? And the telescope used to be the largest one in the whole world.
Starting point is 00:45:26 It took them decades to even get the glass right. It's 200 square inch diameter beveled and polished, and that was the furthest they could see into stars back in the day. So that's called the
Starting point is 00:45:43 Polymell Mount Observatory. And then I found out there's a huge area behind the observatory that's all protected, nobody can go in there. Why? Because I think they know that Bigfoot lives there and they protected it. And I think it's all a huge cover-up by the government. They do not want people to know about this because, number one, we won't be able to handle it. That it is part of humanity.
Starting point is 00:46:13 You know, whenever they find the hairs, there's always, comes back to human DNA, so it's a cross. It's a cross breed of some sort, and they just don't want to let it out. And I'll get into that later. Why? It's because of religion, mostly,
Starting point is 00:46:32 okay, you want salvation? We're not talking about Bigfoot. Can't bring it up at this. You know, they don't want that in there. So we'll get into that later. But anyway, this whole area behind Palomar Observatory is protected. Look at it
Starting point is 00:46:47 yourself. It is a huge swath of land and nobody can go in there. You cannot hike in there. If you do, they will arrest you and I can guarantee 100% the creature is in there. And had come down into Lake Henshot and
Starting point is 00:47:03 that guy's property, watch that video it'll blow your mind what is going on up there. So pretty amazing. Just real quick, I want to comment on the videos that you've been talking about, I believe you're talking about
Starting point is 00:47:19 Eli Watson's documentary series on YouTube where he talks about Bigfoot in Southern California? Yep. Yeah, it's really good. So I'm going to have that links. Yeah, and that guy has been doing a lot of research, you know, he's a young kid, but he's good. I mean, he's like
Starting point is 00:47:39 literally going around collecting these stories and interviewing people, you know, like I never got around to that, but I mean, I've enough research for 50 years now, I'm 100% convinced it exists, okay, and we'll get into what it is
Starting point is 00:47:55 at the end here. But now we'll just go into Big Sur where I have been going up to the motorcycle races at Laguna Seca. And it's awesome. It's never been there. Go check that out. It's phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:48:11 These kids flying around the racetrack at 150, 200 miles an hour. And so we camp out up there, usually stay at a motel, and then we ride motorcycles back down the highway one, which is the best motorcycle ride or sightseeing road probably in the world. It goes for 60 miles. There's nobody there, and it's just like unbelievable. Big Sur is a small town. After Big Sur, there's nothing. So we drive into Big Sur, we're in a motorhome. the first time that we have this rock-throwing incident.
Starting point is 00:48:53 We're in a motorhome, me and my brother. And it's 28 feet Class C motorhome. We're just like having a great time. We head down out in Monterey at about 6 o'clock, 7 o'clock, starts to get dusky. And we come past in Big Sur. and it's getting around sunset. So we keep going.
Starting point is 00:49:20 We're about 20 miles past Big Sur, and it starts getting up and down. It's like 300-foot cliffs, windy roads. It's a hairy setup for an RV. So I'm like, hey, dude, we need to pull over this is sketchy at best. I don't feel comfortable coming around these corners on 300-foot cliffs with no guardrails. So we pull over on this huge shoulder. right before a big drop-off that's going down.
Starting point is 00:49:49 And there's a sign that says steep grade, big yellow sign. So we stop in front of that about 20 feet. It's a pretty wide shoulder. So I'm like, perfect. We'll just hang out here, spend the night. Cop comes by. We'll just tell them we're having battery problems. We're not going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:50:07 So we set up. I put some chairs out. I'm looking at the most amazing sunset from 300 feet up on this cliff. and we're in the middle of nowhere. There's no anything around there. And so I'm listening to some music, crack a beer, and enjoy in the sunset. Well, my brother goes over to take a leak next to the sign that's 20 feet in front of the motorhome. Keep in mind, the sign is facing in front of us, you know, a big triangle sign that says,
Starting point is 00:50:42 steep grade. So all of a sudden, this rock, the size of a softball, hits that sign. I'm like, what is that? My brother's like, what the? And so he just like freaks out. If you want something done right,
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Starting point is 00:53:01 And heads back to the motorhome, and then he won't even look at me. He's like, goes in and, like, goes in and, closes the door. I'm like, what? So I thought nothing of it, and I was just like, you know, what was that? Did that, I didn't think Bigfoot at the time. I just thought maybe it bounced off the hill
Starting point is 00:53:23 or, but then I was looking around and I was like, that'd be pretty impossible. It's not a Super Bowl. How could it bounce off that freaking road? It's impossible. I mean, that sign is like 10 feet tall or eight feet at least. And so I'm like,
Starting point is 00:53:38 what? So I try to go went and talk to him and the doors walked. I'm like, dude, open this was going on. This was insane. And he finally opens the door after I'm banging on it. He's like, somebody, you know, I don't know that some, I felt like something was watching me out there. I'm like, what are you talking about? You'd relax have a beer. And so, we relaxed and I didn't really think anything of it. You know, it had been a while since I'd done a whole lot of Bigfoot research and I was just like, didn't even think of it. And
Starting point is 00:54:11 So we crashed out, woke up and drove down out of there the next morning. And I get down to the lower area where there's like a mini state park every five miles. It's awesome. So we just pulled in there, made some food. And then I started thinking about it. I'm like, dude, we just had a big foot. He's like, why would somebody throw a rock at us? It could have been some hippie in the woods.
Starting point is 00:54:38 I'm like, no, no, no, no. this doesn't make any sense. So when I got home, I started doing some research and started researching that exact area. And sure enough, there was all kinds of going on up there. And these girls in the 70s had seen this guy running up that cliff. If you look at it when you're there, it's literally 40, 50-degree angle.
Starting point is 00:54:58 I'm an expert skier. Those are called jump turns coming down stuff like that. You're not skiing it. You're jump-turning because it's 40 to 50 degrees. And it's like she said, these two girls, were on the beach looking up. There's some man running down the cliff. They're like, thinking of themselves.
Starting point is 00:55:16 You know, 15-year-old girls are saying, there's no way a human could run down that. They even knew that. So that was one side. And then there was another side, you know, somebody that saw them taking kelp out of the water and it was a hairy creature. And then the other one, which is
Starting point is 00:55:31 totally crazy, is this lady is from it's another one of the podcasts, but she is from England, and she's in Monterey doing pictures of creatures on the coast of Monterey. Well, you go just past Monterey where there's a little town, and it's literally like you're in middle of nowhere, and it's like you were back in time when you get on these coast of Monterey for like 20, 30 miles, there's nothing.
Starting point is 00:56:08 It's just rustic. and amazing. So she drove out of there and went down about 15 miles and decided to go to the coast to take some pictures of sea lions or whatever she could find. And she's sitting on this rock with her camera. And all of a sudden, out of the corner of her eyes, she sees these creatures crawling on all fours. I'm sure you've heard of Bigfoot that can like go down on all fours and literally move like a spider. It's crazy. And so, she sees these four or five creatures and she's like in awe like, what the?
Starting point is 00:56:46 And so she they're going to the ocean and they're getting kelp and whatever and then she drops the camera or something because she's so freaked out and they hear her and the male jumps up and screams at her. She freaks out and then they start coming towards her
Starting point is 00:57:06 and the alpha male that is massive. They're on two legs now coming at her. It's peeing at her, trying to scare her and get her out of there or something. And she passes out. And they end up finding her next to her car. I guess somebody went out and looked for her or something. And then her, when she got back into Monterey,
Starting point is 00:57:39 she was so freaked out they told the whole story and somebody showed up like the men in black like there's these government officials that show up and told her that what she saw was a bear in that to keep it quiet
Starting point is 00:57:59 and she went back to England with her head between your legs did you ever hear that story yeah we're going to talk about that a minute so how far away from the area with the rock was was that up more or less right across so there's a two-lane road
Starting point is 00:58:15 that runs the whole way for 60 miles and there's a massive forest that is got military or government controlled that is like literally like 40 miles inland and like 50 miles long I forget the name of the forest next
Starting point is 00:58:33 to as you come out of that highway one it's called the coast highway. So the rock came from across the street. So the two-lane road, it came out of the bushes,
Starting point is 00:58:48 but it was a steep grade, 40-degree steep grade, and the rock came out of there. It was the size of a softball. It wasn't a pebble. It was perfectly aimed, and after I thought about it, and hearing stories how they can throw,
Starting point is 00:59:10 these rocks so well, it kind of blew my mind. And then it freaked me out that it was that close. Now, we didn't have any other occurrences later that night. I did hear something, sounded like it hit the RV, but I just didn't think anything of it. Oh, wow. So I think that we were quiet enough. And in my opinion, I think they leave you alone once you get out of their, like a lot of people in tents and stuff. you know, they don't rip your ton apart.
Starting point is 00:59:44 I mean, I'm sure they have on occasions, but the majority of the time people say they're just like very curious. And if you are bothering them, you're screwed, in my opinion. And that's why a lot of these hunters disappear because they're in there to hunt their food source. And you've heard the story about telepathy. I mean, they know what these guys are. They know what you're up.
Starting point is 01:00:08 You're a person in there hunting, you know, hunting and looking to do, damage and take out their food source, you're going to be their food source. And that's my opinion on that whole thing. And the people that are spiritual and kind, they're cool with you. They're letting you slide. Like, I have a brother that still lives up there, and him and his friend go up to Index River, where Mount Index is east of Seattle. It's some crazy country up in there.
Starting point is 01:00:37 And they've been camping up in there for like 20 years. and they cook burgers and shoot off some fireworks, plant their American flag, and my brother still dives off the rock at 50-plus years old, you know, 30-foot dive. And they sent me a picture of the bonfire, and I could swear that I could see a big foot poking out of the woods. I've been trying to get it developed because it's kind of blurry. It's far enough away, but you can clearly see a head sticking out of the trees at about eight feet. And then you can clearly see the shadow of the body and everybody thinks I'm freaking crazy. I'm like, no, he's probably, I go, dude, he's up there watching you guys.
Starting point is 01:01:15 They probably like you guys. You guys are fun, diving around. They've probably never seen fireworks. They're like, these guys are cool. So that's all I can tell about that whole deal, because I told him, man, because he went up there camping by himself one time. And I'm like, dude, that's not a good idea. You can disappear real fast, you know, because. we can get into this later,
Starting point is 01:01:40 but in my opinion, there's good ones and evil ones, just like human beings, right? Like people, there's people that just murder people for no reason because they're crazy. And maybe there's that side of a big foot that has the ones that just don't like people.
Starting point is 01:01:55 I mean, they're crazy, and I don't know. I mean, Indians talked about it. They talked about ones that were, the most aggressive ones are up in Tahoe. I've been up into Tahoe. And above Tahoe, up in those areas north of Tahoe in those deep woods, there's some bad ones in there apparently that the Indians even talked about that took their children.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Oh, well, that's crazy. That is something I haven't heard of. I'm sure everyone has put a comment about it already. But the episode you're referring to is Sasquatch Chronicles 515. and I know that because it's like the most famous, like everyone, it's a really good one. This other one about,
Starting point is 01:02:43 on his podcast, about the guy in Oregon that is digging his house and the creatures show up and are banging on his trailer. And he's like an ex-military, and the guy comes out and shines his light on him and they're across from where he did his 10-foot hole for to put his house in the woods and the little one is down inside the well and they scream at him
Starting point is 01:03:13 and the guy freezes and then he says there's ones off to his left flanking him that are like 12 feet tall. I'm like, what? Did you ever, did you ever listen to that one? So I'll be honest. That's probably my favorite one. I will be honest that I don't have a lot of time to consume content, honestly. But I listen to that one. I listen to confessional sometimes, like if I'm around road trips. So I haven't listened to them all,
Starting point is 01:03:42 but I do know a few of them. Like the 515 California one, definitely know that one. Yeah. There's lots of stuff going on in the woods east of here, which is really strange. And then I recently went up last, here to my friend's property in Marble Mount Washington. And that's, so my sister lives, yeah, so they have a festival up there every year.
Starting point is 01:04:13 I'm like, yeah, he's up here for sure. So he didn't really know much about it. I'm like, dude, they're on your property. So we're walking around his property. I went there because my sister lives up on the border there in Ferndale. And I was telling her, man, you got, this looks like there might be some action up here back in the day. They may have been there in the 80s and maybe moved on.
Starting point is 01:04:38 But they might have come inland and then they back out. So my sister, I'm at her house and the guy's working on their garage and he had lived there since the 80s. And I'm like just casual after he was done pounding some nails. I'm like, hey, have you ever had any bigfoot sightings? Blah, blah, blah. You know, if you're not asking, you're not getting. You got to ask, ask, ask. Like my favorite book I used to read,
Starting point is 01:05:02 magic of getting what you want you asking you shall receive if you're not asking you're not getting any answers right so always keep asking the questions and you're going to meet these people that just never told anybody because nobody ever asked them so
Starting point is 01:05:20 I asked the guy I said you ever had any sightings around here he says funny you ask and I said yeah well what happened he goes there was something in the tree and right behind my sister's house and I had walked around there and said, dude, there's some weird
Starting point is 01:05:39 around here. There's a hole in your fence. I don't know who put that hole in your fence, but it's wire and it doesn't seem like anybody can break the hole down below. And so she was kind of like, you think? And I'm like, I don't know. I just talk to your neighbor and he told me that there was something in the tree that screamed at him and scared him so bad that he.
Starting point is 01:06:02 He went in the house and never came out until the morning. But that's all he told me. And so I had done a bunch of research around that area. Mount Baker is loaded. And there's a lot of stories up in Baker and of guys that lived on farms that chased them off their farms. There's my buddy. So we haven't seen each other for like 10 years. And we went to grade school together.
Starting point is 01:06:28 So I was like, he's like, yeah, you got to come out and check out my place. He's got this house six acres. So I start walking around his property, spend the night. And I see this tree break. I'm like, you know, all the birch are like 12 inches round. The white ones that are all next to each other is like 50 of them in this area. And one is snapped at about 10 feet. And it's pointing this way.
Starting point is 01:07:00 I go, dude, that's a marker. Why would there just be one? And it was clearly snapped. It was not chopped. You know, nobody cut it. He's, oh, I never noticed that. And then I go, end your fence post right next to the chicken coop. You know those green fence posts that you pounded into the ground that are pretty sturdy?
Starting point is 01:07:19 They're about five feet tall. Yep. Five, six feet. And then you put your wire fence around it. So he covered his whole property and put it around the whole thing because he's got bears and coyotes and mountain lions. around there. So I'm like, I'm looking at this one fence post by the chicken coop and it's six inches from the top. The whole thing is bent over. No human could bend that. It's impossible. I don't know if a bear could. I mean, it's possible, but if they put both paws on it and leaned on it,
Starting point is 01:07:53 but it looked like the hand of a big foot. If you want something done right, you do it yourself. That's why you change your own oil. You wouldn't trust your engine to just anybody. So go with the full synthetic motor oil you can trust. Penzoil Ultra Platinum offers engine protection for the lifetime of your vehicle. So do it right with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. Stock up now at Walmart. Penzoil. Long may we drive.
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Starting point is 01:10:06 have you had any sightings around? He goes, nothing. I know if I go, well, you get your cords of wood from this guy down the trail here. I go, go, go talk to him, ask him. And sure enough, he asked him, he says, hey, have you had any Bigfoot sightings? And the guy says, yeah, as a matter of fact, they're up high. And I, because there's like steep terrain on both sides of his house.
Starting point is 01:10:30 I go, dude, they're up there. They're not coming down until they want to come down and check on you. And it's usually at night. And they're very tactical. They're like special forces. You know, people call them the ninjas of the woods. That's what they do. They're good at it.
Starting point is 01:10:46 And they've been doing it for thousands of years, for all we know. They've trained each other so they're young on down. They train them young. And so he asked that guy that gives them wood. and the guy said he hasn't, but his friends that hunt have seen them. And then I did some other research up there on stories and other people that have clearly seen them in the woods. So I was like, hey, dude, put some apples up around your property. They love apples and see what happens.
Starting point is 01:11:17 So I'm going to make another trek up there later this summer because I know there's something going on up there. And then there was a sighting of a skinny female that he had seen. So I've been kind of keeping up on them. I'm like, hey, have you seen anything? You know, we talk like every week, we text. And I'm like, have you seen anything? And he goes, dude, I was driving around. And on the bottom of the bridge on one of the rivers, there was this hairy, skinny creature.
Starting point is 01:11:52 It looked like a big foot. I go, it's probably a female. They're skinnier. And he goes, man, it wasn't a person. I go, are you sure? He goes, yep. So how crazy is that? just by keeping him focused on what to look for,
Starting point is 01:12:08 and then I started sending them pictures of all these tree breaks and structures that they make. And I go, those structures are for the other families, because they are obviously in groups of four to five, and they know that this is their area. There's some type of communication in those structures that are telling other plans. So we'll just call them clans because pretty much that's what they are.
Starting point is 01:12:37 And they're telling them that this is our area or letting them know that stay out. So I send him all these pictures because he doesn't know much about it. I'm kind of educating him at this point. And I'm like, here's a bunch of pictures. So I send them like 10, 12 pictures. And then he starts sending me back pictures that he had done hikes, four to five miles from his house outside of a six acre property that's in the middle of nowhere sending me these pictures of these structures i'm like what i told you so i'm like oh wow that's awesome
Starting point is 01:13:18 be careful up there yeah and i just said dude they're not going to harm you unless you come in there with your gun he's got his dogs i go wait if your dogs start whimpering get out of there because the dogs know they're not going near that thing how many times have heard of dogs that, you know, start whimpering, and they've been chasing things their whole life. They're hunting dogs that may just, like, cower and take off the other way. It's time to leave at that point. And so he is very curious now, but I just tell him to be careful, because you don't know if you could run into a bad one,
Starting point is 01:13:58 because people just can disappear. And I'm telling people, if you're going out hunting them and squatching, and thinking you're going to find one, you might just disappear. So you better watch it. Be careful because they know if you're up to no good. Yeah, you can't trick them. Do never ever try to trick.
Starting point is 01:14:17 That is like number one, dude. Don't do it. Yeah. So it's like now, so there was also this woman that I had done this research on that I was Googling around and I was like, how could there not be any bigfoot cut? I know there has.
Starting point is 01:14:39 I know the government covers it up. Everybody says, well, you got no video. You got no this. All the videos are grainy. Well, what if they were making the videos grainy the second they come on YouTube? Do you ever think of that, dummy? They're not stupid. They don't want this thing to come out of the bag.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Just like UFOs, they keep it covered up because it doesn't fit the narrative. And I'm telling you, there was a woman that I discovered that had documents from a deceased colleague because they were medical people and he wrote several documents so she found the papers and I had found this on the internet so I was reading about it I was like blown away I was like the recovery
Starting point is 01:15:16 of specimens one was hit by lightning in Texas this guy had gone down and done the whole anatomy on the thing and it found out that it had been killed by lightning and they covered it up and obviously
Starting point is 01:15:34 did an autopsy and the rest of history. The other one was held in captivity in the northwest, most likely Fort Lewis, because there's a lot of stories out of Fort Lewis, and I have met people that, you know, were in the military at Fort Lewis, and there's stories of
Starting point is 01:15:50 them being underground in hidden areas, and we'll get into the cave systems that run up and down North America all the way through California. It's called the Bigfoot Highway. They're down in there. They know where every hidden cave is. Most of these disappearances around the
Starting point is 01:16:06 country are around these cave systems. You can pull it up on Google yourself and just pull up cave systems of Bigfoot cave systems and it will give you a whole map of the whole United States. They're all over the East Coast and they're all over the West Coast and Texas. And that's where these, if people are disappearing, that's where they're going. And you're never going to find them. And if Bigfoot dies, that's where they're going to die. and again, even if they did die, they're going to get munched up by everything in the forest and the last thing that eats their bones is the porcupine, right?
Starting point is 01:16:42 We've all heard that. So that makes sense. And Lloyd Pye, if you watch his stuff, they covered up a lot of his stuff. The guy mysteriously died. He's talking about this stuff and he's gone. So he had a lot of information on Bigfoot, UFOs, whatever. So the one that was in the Northwest, they actually caught it in this guy's documentary that he put together.
Starting point is 01:17:15 And it possibly was Fort Lewis. The creature was able to commit mentally because it didn't like being held in a cage. That was what the guy wrote in his documentation. You ever hear that? No, is this a document you found online? then? I've never heard of those. I can't find it anymore. It's not on there anymore. I've looked for it. Oh my goodness. This sounds wild.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Yeah, the woman that found the documents was over on the East Coast. The guy was a anthropologist high up. The government had chose him to do the documentation of the specimens and he wrote his findings in that paper and she just happened to find it when he passed away.
Starting point is 01:18:10 It was in one of his boxes. And I thought it was really interesting, the one in captivity that was able to mentally eliminate itself. So that's why I think they don't want to put them in. I mean, what are you going to do anyway? You're going to put the thing in a zoo, like a gorilla? I mean, the guerrillas kind of about break the window if they wanted to. But the guerrillas are, if you ever go see him like in the San Diego Zoo or others,
Starting point is 01:18:38 they really just have this docile attitude. They don't really aren't intelligent enough to figure out how to get out of it, right? Whereas Bigfoot, they know is intelligent enough to be able to be pissed off and escape or do damage. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. So it's not an option. It's not an option.
Starting point is 01:19:00 And, you know, bringing up the fact that they would ever disclose this thing, they'll keep it hidden as long as they can because I have done some other research and the camping industry, take a guess. What do you think it is? Money-wise. I mean, it's got to be a massive amount. It's probably billions. Yeah, exactly. $30 billion.
Starting point is 01:19:26 $30 billion. I own RVs. You ever drive down the freeway or just go into neighborhoods and there's these lots for people are storing all their RVs? Oh, yeah. They're everywhere. And they never even use them half the time. They use them like one week out of the year.
Starting point is 01:19:42 It's crazy. And not to mention that, all of the parks, the national parks are owned by, guess who? The National Forest Service, which is owned by the government. They don't want to bring up Bigfoot because then nobody will go camping. I mean, I'm personally, I'm not jumping in a tent. It's RV or forget it. You've got to break down my door. I'm not sleeping in no tent.
Starting point is 01:20:08 These guys are in tents. are crazy in the middle of nowhere. Enjoy. You're basically a meal ticket at that point if they're hungry. I'm not saying they're going to eat you, but I'm just saying there's good ones and bad ones, and there may be a small percentage that are like there's a small percentage of humans that just like to kill people
Starting point is 01:20:29 for no reason. And I'm just telling you, there's all kinds of different ones. There's not just one species where they go, oh, it didn't look like Patty. How many different humans do you think there is? These people are idiots. How many humans? There's Asian, there's Indian, there's white, there's black.
Starting point is 01:20:46 We all look different. There's probably, I don't know, 20, 30 different species. There's at least 20 different species of Bigfoot. Because the ones down south in Florida, they look like orangutans on all the reports. And funny thing is, I found a map of the Everglades. And they had the skunk ape on there. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yep, it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:21:15 It's on their map. Yep, yep, it's wild. And here they are trying to cover it up. And the whole thing is, yeah, the cover up is a joke. And all these people that are deniers, I'm just like, dude, the government can do whatever they want. You go shoot one. They're going to be there in 10 minutes. They're going to be there and they're going to cover it up and they're going to threaten to put you in prison because you just killed a partial human.
Starting point is 01:21:39 And you did it on U.S. Forest Service land. That's why the majority of the sightings are always on U.S. Forest Service land. And if you do anything outside of the box, you're done. You're going away. You will disappear. You will go to prison. And they will keep it at all costs to cover this thing up. It's because, number one, it is camping industry, massive.
Starting point is 01:22:05 Forest Service. They shut down the North. West over a spotted owl. What do you think they're going to do when they say there's 20 different specimens of Bigfoot and they live in family groups and now you're not cutting anything down in this area? That is huge. And people that say it's not are full of BS. And I'm telling you, I know for a fact.
Starting point is 01:22:30 And number three is the most powerful business on planet Earth. Do you know what that is? Religion. And as soon as they start saying, that there is something other than a human form that is part human because they've done the research. You want facts? It's real simple. The guy that did the dermal ridges is the number one Demel Ridge expert in the world in Texas. The guy, after doing his research of the handprints, the footprints, he says it's impossible to do a fake Dermal Ridge, what I have witnessed. and in his view
Starting point is 01:23:09 it is 100% these creatures are real Jimmy Chilcutt yeah that right there is direct evidence of fingerprints they're all different they're all different
Starting point is 01:23:24 right right no fingerprints the same and that's why there's many different species of these creatures there's not just like oh blacky one's black and one's brown
Starting point is 01:23:35 There's Auburn colored ones. There's ones that have different facial features because there's ones that, you know, didn't turn out so good. You know, like we got deformed people. They're going to have deformed creatures. Like the foot that's bent, you know, they can't figure that one out.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Why does it have a bent toe? So the natives, the native Indians have all talked about this. there's claims of 10 foot 12 foot you know you know what a 12 foot big foot looks like I just tell you look up at your basketball hoop because the top of the backboard is 12 feet and the width of your doorway is 4 feet that's how wide they are that's crazy I mean it's not crazy but it's so tall yeah it's it blow you away and that's why people are speechless when they see it they're like I thought it was 8 feet
Starting point is 01:24:33 No, no, it's 10 feet. And if you, you know, my brother has done some research on gigantic. And there's only one giganticaphypacus down here. They know it existed. They don't have a lot of skull recovery. But there is one in the San Diego History Museum. If you want something done right, you do it yourself. That's why you change your own oil.
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Starting point is 01:27:08 And you can look it up on the website for Gigana Piccolithus, and the first pictures they show is the one of the model they built in the San Diego Museum. So that is interesting, and it's possible that they're from that, but I think they're more of a crossbreed, and I've always said this from the beginning, that they don't want to be around humans. All we do is do what? Fight wars, kill one another. There's massive disease.
Starting point is 01:27:37 They have probably been hiding in the woods, watching us kill each other from the beginning of time on continents all over the world because we know they're in every continent. If you listen to Lloyd Pye, he's like, they're all over. They're in every continent. They're all different. The ones in the Himalayas are Yeties. The ones in North America possibly cross the land bridge and they're that creature. and they're fast. I mean, they can run 40 miles an hour, right?
Starting point is 01:28:06 You think a human is about 20 miles an hour. These things are moving at 40 miles an hour, and they're fast. That's why the cover-up, my friend, is it doesn't fit the Darwinian theories. It's some wild stuff. It really is. It's some extremely wild stuff. Do you have any thoughts about if, or in your research, did you find where people were having interactions with Bigfoot, but then dealing with other things as well, like strange things in their house or maybe like alien type encounter?
Starting point is 01:28:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I've kind of gone over a thousand times in my head, and I'm almost possibly through the Bible. and I was raised Christian, Catholic. I'm not a practicing Catholic anymore, but I do believe in there's evil spirits and the fact that there's the bad smell and the sulfur smell especially,
Starting point is 01:29:18 it says in the Bible, if there's sulfur, it's Satan, and that UFOs have that same emitted. The UFOs are kind of interconnected. If they are, than they're possibly demonic forces. It is possible. So you have to look at that site as well.
Starting point is 01:29:43 So I still wanted to get into the Mount St. Helens cover-up because there was, when the mountain blew, there was the Army Corps of Engineers went in there and they recovered a lot of bodies. And there was several, the story I read that was the most believable, as these two guys were from north of Seattle. And they were told to go in there and help out with the removal of all these dead Bigfoot. And there was two massive tents when they showed up.
Starting point is 01:30:27 And they could see them bringing in Bigfoot to be worked on that had been burnt or injured. And there was stacks of tens of 20 bodies. that had all been killed and they disposed of them and the whole thing was covered up and they were carrying them out of there with massive helicopters and the ones that were worked on were fixed up and sent back into the wild did you ever hear about that yeah this is probably the most emailed topic that i get for this show and people are always emailing in asking about it. And it's a really interesting topic because I've yet to talk to, I know that potentially there's a person out there still. If this is a real occurrence that could be a first
Starting point is 01:31:20 person witness that could talk about it. But a lot of people, you know, they've read stuff, they've watched stuff about it. But to get a person to come forward and to be like, yeah, I was there or I talked to a guy about it, that's pretty tough. Well, the government's good at covering the stuff out. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. That's for sure. Yeah. But, you know, there could be a possibility that they are demons.
Starting point is 01:31:51 I don't, you know, no for sure, but I know that extraterrestrials, especially you see the grays and they all look the same. I don't think they're actual flesh. I think they're AI. They all look like their cookie cutter off the press. and... Oh, aliens? Yeah. And that if, you know, people say, well, Bigfoot and Alien, they're interconnected when I see a, you know, why would they want...
Starting point is 01:32:18 Oh, they dropped a Bigfoot off when they landed. I'm like, dude, they're not having that stinky thing in their freaking craft. It's impossible. Whether they help create it, I don't know. Whether they help create us, I'm not so... I don't know. But I'm convinced that, you know, there's a possible... ability that they are demonic and possibly a demon.
Starting point is 01:32:46 I mean, it's very possible. People have said they've asked it to leave their camp and the body and blood of Christ. There's one way to get rid of extraterrestrials and aliens is body and blood of Christ. I denounce you from this house and the father and the son and the Holy Spirit and whatever it was is gone. And that people have claimed that they've gotten Bigfoot out of their camp. camp that way and they've also claimed they got them off their property. I can honestly say I got rid of I thought I was being abducted in the big island of Hawaii. It was very scary and I could see the UFO, whatever it was right there in the corner of the bedroom.
Starting point is 01:33:30 And I jumped out of bed and body and blood of Christ denounced it out of here. it closed up and was gone and then I was in the front room shaking for an hour and then I remember what my mom said she said you know love is the most powerful thing on earth and so I went in the other bedroom where my wife
Starting point is 01:33:51 and kid had been sleeping because it was a spread out condo and I was in a separate room I went in and laid next to my son and hugged him and all of a sudden this warm feeling came over me and I fell asleep and woke up like nothing had happened but it was the most horrific experience I've ever had.
Starting point is 01:34:11 And I don't know if that is part of, you know, the exterrestrial agenda, and I'm not sure with Bigfoot, but I know that they're flesh and blood and they're out there. And I tell people, be careful what you wish for because if you're hunting to go see them and just want to get a picture or prove something. You're not proving anything. You're going to end up gone because there's thousands of people that are gone, and they have no trace of them. They don't know where they are, and they just disappeared.
Starting point is 01:34:51 So that's pretty scary in my book. I just tell people, be careful. They just want to be left alone if they're out there. I'm sure they're out there, a positive 100%. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think our culture is getting to the point where we're starting to realize that fringe science is not exactly fringe science and things like telepathy could be a real thing. We're not to that level yet. Yeah, exactly. But it's wild. I mean, before you go, I want to share with you the mounds across America. You can pull that up on. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:33 Oh, yeah. On YouTube. And about these giants that were 10 feet, and they were all buried in these mounds. And they say, oh, these were Indian burials. They lived in tents. They couldn't even, you're telling me they built a structure like that. If anything, it was people that had migrated north that were Incas and built all these mounds across America. And they covered it up because they don't want to pay reparations to them.
Starting point is 01:35:55 So all these bodies were taken out of there. They were all put in the Smithsonian. and when the scholars back then, this was in the early 1900s, they'd 1800s. They freaked out. These things were 10 feet tall. And they took them to the Smithsonian.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Well, guess what happened? They put them on a barge and took them all out and dumped them in the Atlantic. Do you know why? Because it didn't fit that Arwenian theory. They've already made up their mind what humanity is and they wrote all the books. And I'm telling you,
Starting point is 01:36:30 do some research people because there's much more to know. Oh, yeah. I mean, this just skims the surface of what is out there. Yeah, and BitFoot is part of the evolution process. They don't want evolution to be part of anything. As far as we're divine intervention. I mean, I'm convinced of that. We're divine intervention.
Starting point is 01:36:53 I mean, anybody that tries to tell me we came from the, you know, from an aide. I think things evolve. I'm not saying certain Bigfoot possibly evolved, but I'm just telling people that humanity or divine intervention because we're smart, we're intelligent. Everything we do is just like amazing. And people say, oh, we got it from the aliens. I go, no, give humans respect.
Starting point is 01:37:21 We work hard. Von Braun failed 100,000 times before you got the rocket right. There you go. If the aliens took them off, you would have done it in the first. first try. I mean, come on. The pyramids were built by the aliens. It took 20 years. They documented it. It took 23 years to build the pyramids. They didn't do it overnight. So give humanity some of respect. We're smart or very intelligent people. That's my two senses. I love it. Mr. T. Thank you for, I mean, coming on, sharing your 50 years of going after Bigfoot all around the West Coast.
Starting point is 01:38:00 and I appreciate you coming on and for sharing what you've learned along the way. Oh, hey, I did forget to throw this in. And I'll beat this real quick. When the rock throwing happened at the motorhome on the California Highway Coast, we came back a year later with my wife and kid in a different motorhome.
Starting point is 01:38:23 And as we left the racetrack and we're heading Pat Monterey, I was going the same way. and it started to get dark, so I pulled over, not in the same area. And so I got out and it was off to the side of the road, same thing, because it was getting dark. So I started to get the RV set up, and they were inside. I was outside. I got outside and I heard a freaking wind knock, and it freaked me out. And then I thought I was hearing things, and I heard it again.
Starting point is 01:38:50 I jumped in that RV and drove all the way back to Monterey an hour and slept in the parking lot. Oh, my goodness. Because of those stories where they hear, when you hear they know you've already been there. You know, and that freaked me out. So I did forget to throw that in. That's wild. Yeah, that's a cool add-on, though.
Starting point is 01:39:10 Man, good stuff. Please keep in touch, you know. It sounds like you're still out and you're talking to people that are having activity. And, you know, if there's any updates, definitely feel free to reach out. Yeah, I'll email you because I'm going to head up into that area in Lake Henshaw. where the guy on the video. Watch it again. It's very interesting.
Starting point is 01:39:37 Monsters and mysteries at the border, and the guy is on his property. I'm going up and there and trying to find that guy. I love it. I know he's up there, and I know that whole protected of Palomar up by the observatory. They're in there, and they don't let anybody in there.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Nobody. Look it up. It's all protected. Well, guys, if you can help Mr. T out with those quests he's on, put some stuff in the comments, and maybe there can be some knowledge sharing back and forth. But thank you so much for coming on the show, Mr. T. I appreciate it. Thank you. Nice talking to you.
Starting point is 01:40:14 Yes, sir. Thank you so much for tuning into this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Mr. T's incredible experiences have left us with more questions than answers, but one thing is for sure. Bigfoot is out there and he's not alone. So if you enjoy this episode, please be sure. sure to subscribe, share it with your friends, and don't forget to leave us a review wherever you listen to this podcast. And if you or someone you know has had a Bigfoot encounter, especially
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