Bigfoot Society - Bigfoot of the McKenzie River! | Oregon

Episode Date: March 17, 2025

Originally released 6/7/24In this episode of Bigfoot Society, host Jeremiah Byron chats with Brad, a listener from Oregon, who shares spine-chilling Bigfoot encounters experienced throughout his life. From eerie happenings in the McKenzie River area to a terrifying encounter in the Diamond Peak Wilderness, Brad recounts numerous unexplainable events. He details the sounds of screeching metal in the forest, strange lights descending into the trees, and even the unsettling encounter with massive owl-like calls near his property. This episode delves deep into Brad's personal encounters that span from his teenage years to recent years, offering a gripping insight into the mysterious world of Bigfoot.Sasquatch Summerfest this year, is July 11th through the 12th, 2025. It's going to be fantastic. Listeners, if you're going to go, you can get a two day ticket for the cost of one. If you use the code "BFS" like Bigfoot society and it'll get you some off your cost.Priscilla was a nice enough to provide that for my listeners. So there you go. I look forward to seeing you there. So make sure you head over to www. sasquatchsummerfest. com and pick up your tickets today.If you've had similar encounters or experiences, please reach out to [e-mail]. Your story could be the next one we feature!🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Want to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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All right, Bigfoot Society, we've got the privilege of talking to Brad today. He's a listener from Oregon that reached out with some really interesting things that he's experienced over the years. Brad, I'm so glad you reached out and I'm excited to talk to you tonight. How's it going, man?

Great, Jeremiah. Thanks for having me on the show. Awesome. We talked a little bit in the pre-interview and this is going to get pretty interesting. There's even some Oak Ridge, Oregon-related stuff for that. I'm coming up. But, Brad, I'm going to give it right over to you, and we'll get right into it tonight.

All right. Thank you very much, Jeremiah. I grew up in Eugene, Oregon, and I was an outdoorsy kind of kid. My grandparents lived on the McKinsey River up near the town of Vida, and I spent all my childhood free time up there roaming the woods, and the creeks and the hillsides and grandparents are a little looser's and the parents are about where the kid is. So I had free range in the mountains. I never really thought about Sasquatch or Bigfoot at all growing up and never really had anything happened to me that would

make me think that there were any Bigfoot around. But until I was about and see how old was I was probably around 14 years old, 15 years old. My grandma would drive me up these old logging roads with my bow and I would hunt these logging roads on my way and just wander my way back to her house down these logging roads. And there was a time she dropped me off and it's about a three or four mile walk back down to her house. And I was let out of the car and the birds were chirping and the squirrels were jattering at me. And I would usually sit and wait, sit in a little burrow ditch and wait for her car until I couldn't hear her car anymore. And then I start walking down the logging road.

And I never really planned on shooting a deer with a bow. It was more of just me being out in the woods. But anyway, I heard her car disappear out of range, out of my hearing. And all of a sudden, I just had this very strange sensation of being, it's like the fourth. forest just went silent and I just got a really weird feeling. So I'm standing on the logging road looking down into the ravine below me and these three deer come creeping up out of the ravine, really low, really a strange movement, hunkered down and almost trying to crawl. And they were covered in sweat, totally lathered over. And their eyes were bulging out of their heads and they

walk within, I could have reached out and hit one with touch room with my arrow. They were so close and they could have cared less that I was there. I thought that was really weird. And so I'm looking down into the ravine where they came from. And a tree, like, it just got cracked in half and was pushed over. And there was no wind. There was no reason for it to happen. It sounded like a healthy live green fir tree just snapped in half.

and that was the first encounter but again in the 80s I was definitely not on my mind I just thought it was strange and wandered on back to my grandma's house and then let's see there was another time

I'm gonna back up when I was a little younger before you do that so I just want to clarify something so you when you were looking down the ravine you heard that tree get cracked in half and pushed over Yeah, the deer had walked by me, I couldn't figure out why they were,

because I'd never seen deer behave like that. They were just, it was almost like they were creeping past me, and their eyes were bulged out, and they looked, if you see a horse, it's all that's been to run too hard, they just had this sheen of, they look terrified, and then this tree just goes crack, and goes crashing down to the ground, a green, not punky, just a green, big fir tree. It sounded like a mature tree. And it didn't freak me out, but I just was odd. And so I, high-tick and high-tailed it, I just mosey back to my grandma's house.

When you were out in the woods with your bow, did you ever hear any sounds out there that didn't fit with what should be out in the wood? The only times I ever did are the stories I'm going to tell you. Other than that, never, which is strange. I'd never, it never crossed my mind. I was never, no, no signs there. never even crossed my mind. I'll back up a little bit.

I skipped this one. This happened when I was 10 years old on Lost Creek at Lost Creek Campground. It's on the west side of Mount Hood in 1980. And I know the date exactly because the day after this event happened, Mount St. Allen's erupted. So it was

May, 1980, it's when this happened. And I was camping with a family friend for the weekend. And again, this I completely forgot about this until I heard somebody tell a similar story. And it's funny how these things come back to you. When you hear something that just sparked this memory.

And we were camping at this campground. And it was a, you pull your trailer in and it was a pretty crowded campground. And there we had a camper. There's a tent. There's a cable set up. There was a fire pit. So it was a cramped little space. and it's night and my friend and I are sleeping in the tent and his parents are sleeping in the

camper and I'm laying there in bed I don't know what time it was Ken between 10 and midnight probably because I wasn't asleep yet and I heard what sounded like a deer bounding through the camp bounding and then it stopped right outside our tent and we had a little cord that was a cold in the vestibule we had it tied around a tree and we just I can't kept here in his thump, it was twanging in the cord. And I thought, oh, a deer must have jumped, jumped the cord or tripped into the cord or something. And then it thumped away. But what was weird is a few minutes later, I thought came back, and it did the same thing.

It was twang in the little cord that was holding the vestibule at the tent, probably two or three twangings like a guitar string. And then it thump, dump away through camp. And that was it. So I wake up in the morning and I was like, gosh, did you guys hear that deer in camp last night? And no one, they didn't hear anything. And but then I started thinking if there's no way a deer could have run through the camp because it's so, there's coolers and there's stuff everywhere. Besides, it was flicking the, it was, it would thump, thump, fub up to the can't stop.

And then the little cord would go bang, bong, and glibrate the camp. So that happened. They did that two times. and that was and then the next morning that morning we forgot all about it because Mount St. Holland had erupted while we were having breakfast and you could hear the sonic boom and the ground shook and we all knew what it was because

you know everyone in the northwest was waiting for it to happen so that sort of trumped whatever happened to me that night which that was pretty cool and then there was ash all over our cars the next day it was cool let's see I've got another I'll talk a little bit more about what happened upon the McKinsey River where I grew out so let's see this is a weird one so the year was let's see I wrote all this stuff down 19 I was a junior in high school and my grandma was a really cool old lady and all my high school friends would come up there and spend the night she'd cook for us and we fish and run around the forest and play in the yard and she had about 13 acres and one night we were out playing a game called kick the can which is like a hiding seat game where you put a can in the middle of shield and one person guards it if someone gets tagged and you tick the can the person

he tagged was free so we're all out there's probably eight of us out playing this game and I'm hiding in some ferns and all of a sudden a couple of the people who are there are two people who are at, they're out in the field and they stop and they are staring up at the mountain side that's next to the property

and pretty soon all the rest of the kids come out and they're all looking up in the sky and what the heck's going on? So I get out of my hiding spot and I joined him in the field and I look up and there are three blue green, blueish green

I think there were bluish green balls of light about the size of beach balls, big kind of rubber beach balls you would see at like a music festival or something. And there was, so if I'm looking straight across the property to the hillside is 12 o'clock. There was one at about 9 o'clock that was maybe 3 or 400 yards away, not on our property, but the next piece of property above the forest there. There was one probably 10 o'clock that was right above where this creek runs down into our property and then there was one at about 1 o'clock and they were just green orb beach balls just hovering in the sky and we're all like whoa what's going on what's that we didn't know what they were

and the rolydecks starts going over in your mind is it a weather balloon is it what is it and then it was none of that it was just these balls of light. And at the same time, so they were just stationary in the sky above the fir trees. And there were different elevations. So one was down on our across from us flat, probably 20 feet above the fir trees there. And the other one was another up the hillside. They were all the same distance above the fir trees, if that makes sense. And all of a sudden at the very same time, they started descending into the trees into the fir trees. And you could see all the boughs of the fir trees lighting up around them.

And they just slowly went into the forest. At the same time, it was really weird. And we freaked out and all went back inside and called it a night. So that was strange. So the next day, so this is at the end of September, most of the kids left that next day. And my buddy and I were going to go growl something. We stayed.

So we're like, oh, let's go grouse something. And so there's an old logging road. straight across from my grandma's place. And so we always hunt this logging road, and we'd hike a couple miles up, and there was this really neat kind of, we're hunting in, I'd say, it's second growth, so the trees were probably 60 or 70 years old and pretty mature forest. But there was a really cool spot that the loggers had left that they didn't cut, maybe eight or nine acres with really beautiful old growth.

And so we'd go hike to that spot, go leave our, we'd always leave our guns outside. We never took anything in there, any guns or weapons, just because it was such a, it felt like a sort of a sacred place. It was really amazing. So we'd go and sit and visit. And then we'd hunt back down the road to my grandma's house. And there was a, so between this neat little old growth section and her house was a giant, one of those big, giant, those power lines that go across the state, those giant high-tension power lines, and our little service road ran under it. And we'd always, we'd go to the little old-growth

spot, come down and then turn down the little service road underneath the high-tension power lines and eat a sandwich and drink something. Because it was in the sun, because when you're in the, on these logging roads and these big trees, it's like a tunnel. There's no correct sunlight, so we'd always go and get a little sunshine on our faces and have a sandwich and just sit and look out across the mountains. So we've done that. We're on our way back down and we're, this is where it gets pretty weird. And so, let me see. So we're walking, we're walking down the road and we're about to turn, turn right to go down this little service road, logging road, to eat our sandwiches. And from our right side, probably 20 yards

just off the edge of the logging road in the forest we hear two whoops you know really loud and before we can really acknowledge what we just heard we both just stop and freeze

and this weight of unbelievable fear that I can't really describe came over It was like we walked into an invisible sort of bowl of jelly. I couldn't move. Neither could my friend. And this fear was, I can't describe fear. It's just, unless it's happened to you, I think it's hard to explain. So the hoops happen.

And then across the little service road, there's another, the forest continues. But the face of this forest is, it gets a lot of sunlight, so it was scotch, room, blackberries, so you couldn't really see into the little thicket of trees that was on the earth

side. And from that side, all the sudden, and we're frozen and we can't move. And all of the time I hear the sound, and I've gone online

and listened to certain animals as I've heard people's accounts. And it sounded exactly like, if you listen to what an alligator or crocodile sounds like, they vibrate.

I don't think they have vocal cords, but they make this weird vibrating noise. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. It sounded exactly like that at first. We're just, my eyes are bulging out of my head, and the noise is just, it's reverberating through this whole little landing that we're standing in. We can kind of, like, at this point, I'm sort of like, oh gosh,

starting to maybe pivot around a little bit, and I can, my senses are coming back, and we're cocking back, back and forth, like, what the heck's going on? And as we start to talk, that sound, and it's inhaling, and it's this raspy, whew, inhale, and just vibrating out this noise. It sounds like an alligator. And then it goes from that sound to, and again, I've listened to, I found these sounds online.

It sounded like, if you ever heard, listen to a lion while it eats, like a big male lion eating, kind of purrs and growls at the same time. So it would inhale, you could hear it inhaling this really raspy noise, and then when it would exhale, it would make this sort of purring growl like a lion. But it was really loud, and all I could think of up was, if the king's got to be the size of a rhinoceros, whatever's in there. And it was doing that, you would inhale and then exhale this purring strange growl. And we're starting to freak out a little bit.

obviously, and we're thinking to ourselves, what in the heck? We're going, not a deer, not an elk, not a cuder, not a dare, and not a person, and they're trying to mess with us. But again, I'm not thinking Bigfoot at all, which is weird, because growing up in Oregon, you hear about Bigfoot, but it just wasn't entering my mind. So we're standing there, and I'd forgotten we even have guns, because we're just so scared. So as we start to shift our bodies, this is maybe a minute or two has gone by since we heard those initial hoops. So it's going by pretty quick and my mind's just racing, racing, trying to figure out what's happening.

If we start to talk, what are we going to do? How are we going to get, because we have to walk underneath there because the road cuts down below where this is happening in this little thicket of trees. And the trees are probably, it's a newer growth of fir trees. Trees were probably 30, 40 feet tall. But you couldn't see, like I said, you couldn't really see in. So we're like, oh, shoot, how are we going to get out of here? Whatever that thing is, it's mad. So as we're shifting and we're starting to talk about what we're going to do,

I'm like, we each have a 12-gate shotgun. We could fire over the trees, wait for it to run off, and then bookie out of there. and the minute I started to, with my gun, to consider lifting it up and firing it, the place erupted. It went from this weird purring growl to just this screaming roar of, I can't, again, I can't describe it. It was just blowing through our body, like blowing through our bodies. And the trees started to shake, and there was branches starting to snap. and I remember seeing two trees that were probably 35 or 40 feet tall next to each other

just shaking violently back and forth. I'm like, gosh, what in the heck can be doing that? And then they went from back and forth to front and back completely different directions at the same time like something was grabbing them with their hands and just shaking them back and forth. So we're terrified and we don't know what to do. I think I'm crying at this point and just the sheer, just poof, overwhelmed. So screw it. We got to get out of here.

So we both agree. We're going to shoot over this thing, over the trees, and then bolt underneath it. Hopefully, the sound of our guns will scare it off. So, yeah, we fire over the tree tops, and we wait a second to see if you can hear whatever's in there to take off. It didn't. It just, what we thought was pretty much max, it just elevated even worse. And it was screaming and making those crazy sounds. and so we just heck with it we got to go so we bolted and if you hiked on logging roads you know that the rocks

it's not small little gravel that are big rocks and it's hard to keep their balance and so I'm thinking the whole time is I'm going to wipe out and this thing's going to jump down and grab me because I'm running as fast as I've ever ran before my heels were hit my butt and I got a shotgun and like hiking boots on and I'm we're hauling down this road and And as I'm running underneath, as we're running underneath where this thing is, I'm just thinking this thing's going to grab me. I'm dead. We're going to die. But for some reason, it never did.

But the hair on my neck, I could just feel it above me. I never saw it, but I could just tell that there was, and it was huffing. And at this point, it had stopped all the ruckus and was just up there huffing and breathing really loudly. And I could just feel, as I ran. path, ran underneath this thing, steal it above me. And I just thought it was going to reach down and grab me. But it never did. And so booked it to my grandma's house, which we had to cross a road and down her driveway is probably 100 yards long to where her house was. And so we make it to the front yard and she's out in the yard. She must have heard the shots. And so she's out there. What's

wrong? What's going on? I heard shots. And she's a tough old lady. And her, her We're like, we told her what happened, and we're crying and we're freaked out. And she looked at us and says, you ran into a big foot. And we looked at each other and like, what? For some reason, it's just still not sinking in. That's what it was. And we're like, what do you mean? We ran into a big foot.

And she says, well, there's a pizza joint that's down the road on the highway from her house that her and her friend would go to every Friday night and have her a glass of wine and eat pizza. and she was telling me that they told us that when she would go, her and her friend Ellen would go and have pizza and drink wine, the loggers would, it was the loggers hang out back in the 80s. The logging industry was very different back then as smaller operations and families and things. It was a lot different than it is now. But that's where all the loggers would go on Friday night and hang out. She said that she'd overhear the loggers talk about things like this. happening to him in the forest.

I would hear story after story of these sort of things happening and hear them from these loggers who are out there doing it. Logging and they're in the forest every day. That's it. And so the next day and it didn't really affect me

the way I hear people talk about getting terrified of going back in the woods. It was like it was erased from my mind. So the next day, I'm up there and my friend had to leave, had to go back to Eugene. And so I stayed and I said, Grandma, I'm going to go and back up to where that happened and look around and see what I can see. Because I'm still thinking, for whatever reason,

I couldn't get it into my head that it was a big foot or Sasquatch. I kept, I'm going to go look for hoofs track. So I'm going to go look for claw marks in the tree because that's what I thought it was for some reason. I go up there, it's not very far away. It's probably less than a quarter of a mile from her house up this road, the logging road. So I go into this thicket where this had happened and there's, and I'm not, I need nothing about Bigfoot tracks or what to look for in that regard. I'm just looking for hoof prints. I'm looking for scrapes from antlers and I'm looking for claw marks. And there's none of that. But what was weird is that when I got into the thicket, because it had snapped a bunch of fur bows and there should have been broken.

bows, you could see where they'd been broken off the trees, where this thing had snapped and fresh breaks. But there were zero. I couldn't find any fur bows on the ground. They were gone, something that took them up and take them away. And the ground was really beat down. It's a lot of fur needles and things where I couldn't make out any tracks. I didn't see any obviously footprints or claw marks in the tree.

So that was it. And I just forgot about it after that. that is an incredible account even though there wasn't a visual that is a wild encounter do you think that pizza place is still there it's i still go there yeah is that uh is that ike's pizza it's ike's pizza yeah all right we can cut that out if you want no that's fine no ike's pizza for sure yeah i just i have a google maps up the interesting thing i noticed is while you were telling that story you were talking about how it was like alligators. Yeah.

The weird thing is that the thing you were describing, that's actually an infrasound thing. Oh, it is? If you look it up, like when they use those bellows, that's an infrasound. Oh, no way. Crazy. I didn't know that. So you could buy that. It hit me. Yeah.

Yeah. That's weird. Because I heard someone mention it on a that that's what it sounded like to them. And I, so I went and listen to it and say, whoa, that's exactly what it sounded like. And it just, I don't know what infrasound does, but man, I was frozen. We couldn't move. It was like I walked into an invisible force field.

Exactly. And it was frozen and grace. It was so weird. I didn't feel sick. I never got nauseous or anything. I just couldn't move. And I was so scared that I was crying. And for no reason, because I don't think, I think it, the way of,

when we froze happened before I'd even heard anything. I think I was frozen in place before I even started hearing that alligator-type sound. That's wild. That alone is enough for me to hearing that's enough that you definitely experienced some crazy stuff in the woods that day. No question. It was bizarre. Yeah, it was weird. So to end this part of the story, so I completely forgotten about this event.

I was getting ready to graduate high school that next year. And after I graduated high school, I moved to Idaho and became a ski bum for about a decade and spent all that time just in the mountains of Idaho, exploring, skiing, fishing, all types of, all times of year, all seasons, and never even thought about Sasquatch or Bigfoot. Didn't cross my mind. In my ski bum career, and the year is about, it's about 2002. going to school in Boise at Boise State University to get my teaching certificate. And Boise is a really cool city. There's the river runs right through town. And on the south side of the river, there's the college.

And on the north side of the river, there are all these really pretty parks and concert, little concert shells and things. And there's an old zoo, one of the old school, small town depressing-looking zoos. And so I would have to get to the footbridge to get to the colleges right next to the zoo. So I think I'm a junior or something at this point. And I'm cruising on my bike, and it's early in the morning, and I'm riding past the zoo, and I hear these hoops coming from the zoo. I'm 31 years old, and this happened, this event happened to me back when I was 17 years old. And I just instantly froze on my bike and stopped and was just catapulted back to that

this event that I just told you about. instantly I could see the color of the rocks I could see the shadows every tiny detail just came flooding back into me when I heard these whoops coming from the zoo it was really weird and I had to go to class and the zoo hadn't opened yet so I'm like I'm going once the zoo opens I'm going over there and going to ask the zookeeper what the heck makes those noises so I do I go hey I don't I don't want to go through the zoo I just want to know that I want to about your primary area and we show me, I've heard these really loud hoops this morning. I get what makes those noises? And he took me to the given cage and he goes, those are

givins and that's what you heard in the morning. And they were making a little bit of whooping sounds, but it was identical, a little higher pitch and obviously smaller lump capacity. He got it with the exact same sound that I'd heard in the forest. It was bizarre. It froze me on my bike. Like I stopped. I was oblivious to whatever was going on around me. I was just transported back to that day in the forest. And up to that point, like I said, I had never even crossed my mind until I heard those givens coming from the zoo. I'm so glad that you said the little higher pitch because I personally have heard similar things. And I was just thinking in my mind it was like it is very much the same but it's a little lower and when you said

a little higher pitch i was like yep absolutely 100 percent but the same kind of sound just yeah just a little higher pitch but it was weird that would just that sound catapulted me back in in times in every single detail just became so vivid it was bizarre i had a terrible memory i can't remember anything i don't know what i had for dinner last night but how in the heck that could happen and everything be so clear, it was just really strange. That's wild. I have a few questions before we leave this part. Did you ever ask your grandma if she had any Bigfoot experiences when you were out there with it?

You know, I don't, I don't remember. She never would have told me anyway. She was pretty, she wouldn't, because she wouldn't want to scare him from going back in the forest. Gotcha. Because it didn't slumber down a bit. I just kept going back out. Yeah, so I never asked. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.

I share with the Patreon members a little bit about upcoming episodes, and they're really interested to read about what you had sent over. And some of them had some, I'm always like, hey, if you guys have questions for this interviewee, put them in the comments. So there's a few that are actually related to this part, I believe. Slea asks, have these events, have they affected your ability to be in the mountains in the woods at all? or did it not affect you in a way where you're like, I'm never going in the woods again?

It didn't. Like I said, I forgot about it. For some reason, it never slowed me down a bit. Like, I moved to Idaho and was, I spent, I was out in the woods all the time. No, it never did. Gotcha. It never had a negative effect.

And even now, I live back in Oregon. We're out all the time. I'm aware, and I'm very conscious. of that and I treat the forest a little differently, I think, in terms of how I approach it in a lot, I have a lot more gratitude, I guess. Absolutely. Scott had some questions that are interesting. So you alluded to how if you grow up in the Pacific Northwest, you know about Bigfoot, right? So his question is, living in the Pacific Northwest, Bigfoot seems to be part of the culture. Were you a believer

before your experiences, and you had some really young age experiences. Yeah, but I never equated that to Bigfoot until I heard someone talk about it on the podcast. Then I was like, well, kind of like the bike thing at the zoo, it just triggered this event. So someone mentioned it on their shirt on, I was like, oh, wow, that kind of happened to me. Yeah, I had a hunch. It was really, you know, I'd seen the Roger Patterson film, and I think at that point, though, When I was a kid, I felt like there was one of them, and that's where they lived down in California. And we jokes, we get a lot of camping, and we were always joking about it, but I don't think anybody took it serious for some, at least that the people I knew, and the circle of friends I hung out with.

Up until, obviously, at that point. Yeah. But you'd hear about it, but it just was never, I don't know if we wanted it to be true because it would keep us from going out. Maybe we just turned it out. We camped in places where I hear about accounts, the coast range all over the place. And aside from these few events that I've had happen to me, for the amount of time I spent out there, these are very few. There was also an interesting part where you were sharing about the lights coming down into the trees. And you saw those large lights.

So the lights, yeah, that was really weird. There were three of them. And there was one that came down to our, I guess that would be to the east, but it was, maybe at the edge of our property or maybe just past the edge of our property we had about 13 acres and it just into the forest and then there was one that there's a creek that runs through our property and it comes down the mountain across the road and one of the lights went down and on the left side the east side of the drainage and the other one came down basically right on top of where this encounter happened oh really the next day yeah so this the third light was the light came

I ended basically that. Because I Google Earth the distance and it was 520 yards away as a crossby. And it was basically just right on top of where it had happened. And I'd never crossed my mind until I never connected the two until

I started hearing accounts with lights and the Sasquatch being related. And I don't know whether or not this, but I never saw those lights and I never really had an encounter like that. And so are they connected?

I don't know. That's pretty close to what I think he was getting at. Scott was getting at with his question, perhaps relation to lights. It seems that he may believe that there are paranormal ties or just a coincidence or just a lot of questions. Yeah, I don't know.

I don't like the word paranormal. I just think it's nature that we don't know about. Love it, yeah. I think it's beyond. I think it just has been happening. I don't know if these two are connected, but it just seemed weird that the light literally went into the forest where this occurred. And again, I never made that connection until I started listening to podcasts. Even that day, what did happen?

And I'm like, oh, the light came down, and now there's something in there. It was the first thing from my mind, which is bizarre now that I think back. And what are the chances that you have this light coming down almost in the same area where you had this encounter? and it's like that man it's got to be connected somehow but yeah we just don't know the knowledge of and not now of having heard enough people being interviewed or had similar things happen yet people are so afraid to just say you could duh i think it's probably connected how could it not because i've never seen lights before that and i never had an encounter quite in that spot which is too too much for coincidence any UFO activity ever in this area not in that area

That's pretty fantastic. Feel free to continue. I think we have a few other things to discuss as well. I've got, yeah, I've got a couple more, and these are not related to this property on the McKinsey. These are more along the Willamette Pass area, which is from Eugene itself. So you go through Oak Ridge,

and you'll end up at Crater Lake, and if you keep going south, you'll end up in Clameth Falls. But when I wasn't up at the McKinsey, at my grandma's place, My dad loved to fly fish, and he got me into fly fishing when I was really young. And we would, he had a spot up right in the town of Oak Ridge where there's an old, I don't know what's there now, but there was a rock quarry in town. And the river, the Willamette River flowed through the bottom of town.

And we would fish this rock quarry. And it was really excellent trout fishing. And I was with my dad, I was probably 12. were 13 years old, and we were up fishing the rock quarry, and we'd caught some fish, and there was a little isolated pool of water up against the hillside that the fish couldn't get out of us. I didn't keep fish, or we didn't eat, and we'd let them go. We'd catch and release them. But I was young, and so I put him in this little pool of water, and just watched them swim around. I was going to let them go eventually. And my dad's, okay, let's go up and around the

corner and fish this riffle. And I'm like, all right. So we leave the fish. There's probably four or five fish, rainbow trout in this pool that's probably the size of a little plastic kitty pool. But there's no way in or out. There's no way for the fish to get out. And if it was in the shade, I made sure they were in the shade. The forest came down. so the fish had the shade and I was going to let them go when we got back. So we go and we fish and we come back

and the fish are just completely gone. There's no sign that a bird had come and plucked them or anything. It was just really strange. One minute this little pools full of fish and the next minute they're gone. I don't know if that has anything to do with

Bigfoot, but it was really weird. And it was up against the hillside. and it was just an odd to come back to and we both looked at you and we both looked at you and where'd they go there were no ravens around there were no I don't know what could have came and took that many fish so that's a interesting side note and then I have one more and this happened at Murray Lake in 1987 I was a senior in high school

and we were there were five of us and we're going to go three of us we're going to hike we're going to camp Camp at Murray Lake. And three of us, we're going to hike the south side of Diamond Peak and ski to snowfields up there and come back and camp. And there are other two guys we're going to hang out at the camp and fish. We leave the trailhead and we're hiking to the lake. And we get maybe a mile and a half, two miles into the hike. And we come to a tree.

So this is all pine trees and it's high deserty mountains. It's not lush like it is on the McKinsey where there's fern. and big fir trees and sculpt, it's a bit different ecosystem. So we're hiking through these dry pine, this little dry pine forest, and we dip down into this basin that's maybe four or five,

three or four acres. And it's just, but it's, and it turns into a totally different clay ecosystem. It's, there's ferns, there's cedar trees.

It's just there. It's really beautiful. There's a little bog, like a fresh water bog type, spring coming out of the ground. It's beautiful. And as we're five of us and we're walking in and we're all thinking the same thing, oh, wow,

we're going to explore this. This is real pretty. And the minute we all got to this the crown of this little, the trail where we were going to drop down into this area, this smell just walked it in on us. Like, I don't know, like really dead like skunk cabbage times 10 with, I don't know how to explain. Just awful smell came out of nowhere.

And we instantly all decided we're just going, let's just keep going and keep walking. For us not to explore something that cool at that age, you know, as a kid, it was bizarre that we all chose to keep going. And then the smell just instantly vanished as we left that spot. So we get to this lake and we're, we say nothing happens. We just camp everything's normal. So the next morning, two of my buddies and I hike Diamond Peak and we can go and we're skiing and we make it back to camp. And there's a note on, they tacked up and left.

The other two guys split. They were going to fish while we skied. And we got back to camp and they'd left. And there was a note saying mosquitoes were too thick. that we left. See you back in town. But the mosquitoes weren't that bad. It was weird. It's not like to peel out of here, especially during the day when there's the bugs. There's not real buggy during the day. So we, like, oh, whatever. So we camp and nothing real nothing happens. And we get back to town the next day. And when we run into our buddies, they're like, hey, it wasn't that buggy. How can, why did you guys leave?

And it took him a second. And they looked at each other front. me and said, the truth is, when we were fishing, we kept hearing noises coming out of the forest. We kept hearing sticks breaking, and we kept hearing strange grunting noises, and we played it off as a bear at first and thought nothing of it. I thought, we'll just go around the other side of the lake and fish, but they said it followed them around the lake. They could hear it pacing him in the forest and was making these weird noises at them, and that's all I got from them. We said, so we got back to camp and just felt really uneasy and decide. We'd tell you that it was too buggy and we split. We got out of there.

We were scared. And that's that story. What year was that around? That was 19. Here I wrote it down, the Diamond Peak, 1987. Okay. Interesting. There is a report on the BFRO from Diamond Peak Wilderness area where three hunters were out there.

they hear a very loud scream, 30 to 45 seconds. There are reported things from that area, at least one report that's public, but that whole area from what it sounds like is there's activity all over the place. Yeah, it is very, what's happened in the last handful of years is forest fires that ravaged some of these places. Where I'm telling you about this place under McKinsey, through, I mean, I mean, 2020, it got, that whole valley got wiped out by forest fire. The hillside that all these things happened to me on, is gone now.

It's burnt. Oh, wow. It's depressing. It's really sad. So, yeah, I don't know. It's coming back a little bit. There's some greenery growing, but the big fur, I don't know how long it's going to be until the fir trees come back. There's some naples growing and things like that and some ferns that got cooked pretty good.

I think that's about all I got. Oh, there's a couple other things if you want to hear about. This happened in 2017 or 2018, I think, somewhere in there. Like I said, I lived in Idaho. I moved to Idaho in 1989 and came back in 2012. And we moved back to central Oregon, but we still have the property on the McKinsey. I still have it today. I spent a lot of time over there.

So in 2017 or 18, it was Thanksgiving, around Thanksgiving, and I was out, and this happened a couple nights in a row. It's really bizarre. I'm out in the yard. It gets dark real early, so maybe five or six in the evening, but it's pretty, it's dark, and it's pouring down rain. It rains a lot over there. And I don't know what I'm outside doing,

using to go into the bathroom or something and I hear what sounds like up and it's like I had said there's a creek that runs through our property and it drains out on this hillside across the road and I heard what sounded like the truck brakes screeching down like the like the sound like they sound like they're wet and screeching down a road just this weird metallic grindy sound coming from where there was no roads at all, it was just a ravine with a creek in it, and it was really loud and freaky. It was just like, what in the heck?

But it sounded just like metal on metal brakes, and I heard it maybe two or three nights in a row. And that same time frame, maybe a day or two later, my neighbor comes over, and he's maybe a couple of hundred yards downriver from me. And he's like, man, I was in my house.

and I started hearing these owls coming from your property like huge owls, giant owls coming from your property. So I went outside and I was listening and I could hear them. They sounded like owls, but they were like they're huge. They sounded like owls, but they didn't sound like owls and they were huge. And I kept, so I started walking towards your property and that sound kept going on, but it kept moving away. So the closer I'd get, the further they would move off. So it sounded like they were in the forest on the east side of your house. And it just vanished.

The noise stopped. Which again, at that time, I had not ever heard a Bigfoot podcast, and I just thought that was weird. Same with the break screeching thing. But now, knowing what I know because of not being listened to these podcasts, it's like, huh, you hear about owls and you hear about these weird, sounds. I thought I'd add that to some of the things that I've experienced. That's probably some of the weirdest things. And this is back in 2017, you said?

Yeah, 17 or 18. I can't remember it again. In November. So you still own that property? Oh, yeah. We're on there all the time. Oh, okay. I'm a school teacher, so I get to spend my whole summer over there. Nice. Anything weird sound like that? Soundwise happened lately, or just the last time was back in 17 or 18. That was it, yeah. And then, like I said, in 2020, the fires put through there and took everything out. But I did set up a game cam before, and I wouldn't get anything. I got cougars and bears and deer and turkeys, but that was it.

But yeah, it sounded like breaks screeching down, coming down the creek bed, basically, when there was no road. It was bizarre. And then I had never heard the owls, but my neighbor said it, freaked them out. He could hear him over his TV 100 yards downriver from me. So he's an older city guy, so he didn't know what to make of it. I definitely feel like there's some sort of mimicry that's involved. You hear things like what you mentioned. You also hear things like car doors slamming where there's no cars or rusty gates is one.

It's just very strange. Yeah, the rusty metal. That's what it sounded like, rusty metal. And it's bizarre, and it was loud. It was just right across the road for me up on the boat. And then there are a couple logging roads up there, but this was nowhere near one of the roads. It was just coming out of the forest, which knows.

You've definitely had some really interesting things happen over your life so far, and thank you so much for sharing with myself and the listeners. and it's amazing you still have that property area up there. Anything else happens. Definitely feel free to reach out. I will indeed. Yeah, thank you for having me on the show. I appreciate your time,

and I love listening to your podcast. Do you think you might make it down to Oakridge this summer coming up? I'll have to look at my schedule. Yeah, I'd like to. I've never been to one of these before, and my 12-year-old son is heavy into the, whole Sasquatch thing so I might bring him over and check it out maybe camp or something. It's going to be a hop in time.

If he's in the Bigfoot, there's going to be people there that it's the time that they're in Oregon. They probably won't be there again. But, man. I know. We make it over to Cliffs Museum once a year, a little tour image. So we'll go and get a little place in the forest and go squatch in and go talk to Cliff a little bit. So that's pretty fun. Cool is that, man.

Yeah. Those flops I heard, and he's got that giant Sasquatch in his museum. Yep. And he's got it hooked up, some sound hooked up to it. And that's what those flips sound exactly like what he's got going on in our music. Murphy and Sasquatch. Love it. Yeah.

I got to get over there myself one day, for sure. But it's cool. Yeah, he keeps adding to it. So we keep going back. Absolutely. Brad, thank you so much for hanging out. And I hope to maybe hear from you again someday in the future. NBA, Jeremiah, thank you so much.

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