Bigfoot Society - Bigfoot Sighting Updates from Marshall County, Tennessee and MORE! / CALL-IN SHOW
Episode Date: July 6, 2024The 6/22/24 Call-In show was a fantastic grab bag of call-ins from researchers and witnesses.Tune into this gripping episode as Jeremiah and his guests dive deep into the enigmatic world of Bigfoot. F...rom Ken's detailed analysis of recent thermal images and the towering figure in Montana to Joe's wild West Virginia sighting. Craig shares for the first time about a recent encounter he had in an undisclosed area of Tennessee. Kevin, a seasoned Bigfoot researcher, shares tales from his investigations and books, 'Incessantly Bigfooting' and 'Incessantly Bigfooting Through Time,' recounting sightings, mysterious rock formations, and glowing eyes. Discover thrilling encounters in the Washington Cascades, bizarre findings, and more, all while Roger from Squatchin' Holler provides updates on recent Bigfoot activities in the Marshall County, Tennessee area. Don't miss these chilling stories and ongoing investigations into the unknown.Resources:The Montana and Idaho Bigfoot Research Group on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/groups/673490389991612Wild and Weird West Virginia on Youtube -https://www.youtube.com/@WildandWeirdWVTate Hieronymus Youtube channel (Sasquatch: A Search for Sabe documentary series) -https://www.youtube.com/@tatehieronymusIncessantly Bigfooting by Kevin Llewellyn:https://amzn.to/3E7FpmC (affiliate link supporting Bigfoot Society)Squatchin' Holler Youtube channel -https://www.youtube.com/@Rdodger1971Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: bigfootsociety@gmail.com🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com
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All right, let's see who we've got.
Hey, this is Jeremiah.
Hi, Jeremiah. It's Ken. How are you doing, guys?
Hey, Ken. How's it going? All right, let's hold on a minute here, Ken. We got to make, okay, Laura can hear you. All right. Well, Ken, thanks for calling in. It's good to talk to you again. It's been a while since we last talked about what's going on up there in Montana. But is there any updates that you can let us know of what's going on there, Ken?
Yes, we just come out of the swan.
We're in there 11 days this spring, because it was raining and everything.
I sent Jeremiah thermal images of video that was captured at 100 yards from camp.
It went to an analyst.
They don't know what it is.
It's not a bear.
The heat signatures too great to be a heat signature from a tree.
They estimate whatever standing there is between 10 and 11 foot tall.
And in the video, they saw it down.
It appears to be peeking at the two guys by the fire.
The one outcome about is he swung, I have a handheld thermal imaging unit.
And he just swung it around and picked it up and started recording,
both our video and photographs.
We don't know what it is.
all we know is it's a large creature standing there.
Well, up there, we did recover more scat,
and kind of like a hairball.
Now, scat and the hairball have been sent out to the four DNA labs I've used before.
I probably won't hear anything about them for a month, maybe three months.
They're really busy right now.
Now, the night before we left,
at about 3 o'clock in the morning,
there was one real loud
vocalization
about 60 yards from camp.
I had made the mistake and I'd pulled all the trail cans
because all that had been doing was raining real heavy.
Big mistake of my part.
The night before he left,
for the first time ever,
something was thrown at the motorhome.
That has never happened.
before in the four years we've been going up there.
So what it was, I don't know.
Nobody was awake.
Nobody was up.
So something to me was a warning to leave.
Just like what happened overnight that we had talked about on your,
one of your podcasts.
I did tear the camp down and left.
And I will be returning probably about a week, two weeks,
back to the same area.
I'm going to do a tent cap in there for about,
four days and I'm going to see what happens I'll be putting out the trail camps and everything
I've got to chat to talk to more of the locals about their sightings of big puts on their
property driving the logging roads for firewood one approached us he wouldn't tell me exactly where
or who because it was an old man it's kind of being confidentiality on that one which I fully understand
this area is very, very active.
I received a call three days ago.
They've seen Bigfoot walking along the highway
and in the area that we do our base camp,
they're in the swan.
So that's about it right now, Jeremiah,
I've just been planning to go
and then I'm headed over eastern Montana
to Wolf Creek.
And that's south of Great 12th between Great Falls in Helena.
There's some fresh reports over there.
So I'm going to be meeting two of my members to go over with me.
I'll be going into Rogers Pass down there to set up a base camp.
So that's pretty much the update right now.
I will let you know, Jeremiah, when I get those lab results of that scat and that
copped up hairball, I guess you want to call it.
Yeah.
The hairball did not look like anything, a cat or a dog would have coughed up.
The hair, yeah, it's totally different.
Yes, and you know what I've got it frozen at alongside the other one.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, yeah, I know.
Yeah.
It's been a while since we talked, but I'm remembering now.
Oh, man.
This is, oh, it's such, it's so good to talk to you again.
Ken, remind me how long you've been researching that area for again?
Oh, four years.
Four years.
That's right.
Yep.
And guys, just to make sure everyone's on the same page, this is Ken Medsker.
He is with the Montana and Idaho Bigfoot Research Group on Facebook.
And I've talked to Ken about two times on Bigfoot Society.
This was about a year or so ago.
So you can go ahead and,
check out those episodes if you'd like to hear more about what Ken has been up to in the past.
But did you say you were going to be tent camping, Ken?
Yeah, I'm going to do tent camp this time.
Oh, man.
Have you ever done that before in that area?
No.
My kids say I'm being dumb about doing it, but I feel in a way I have to make amends,
so I don't want to take the motor home.
And there's a particular spot I want to put the tent out.
Now, the tent will have looking away solar powered motion detectors.
Now, there's three lights or 72 LEDs in all three lights.
Anything that triggers that, I will get that on video or photos in color.
Plus, I'll have my trail camps in that.
Little campfire, I'm going to try it.
I don't mind going alone as I kind of enjoy it.
I don't have to be aggravated by people that come.
But this would be the first time I'm actually going to go in with the tent.
Wow.
And to see what happens.
Can you got to tell me what happens after you,
because, man, four days, tent camping in this area, it's going to get wild.
I absolutely know it's going to get wild, dude.
I hope you're ready.
Oh, I'm ready.
Don't worry.
I don't have change of clothes with me, if you know what I mean.
Oh, yeah.
No, I hear you.
I hear you.
Oh, man.
Dude, I'm so, I'm glad that you were able to call in, give us a little update.
Sounds like things are getting wild in the Swan Mountain area.
It is.
It's just, it's funny one of the most active areas right now in western Montana.
But in the reports on getting, and we are getting reports out of the Auxpo, and that's up off the Yack River.
Okay.
So that may be an area, I may head into later some mortar home and that to do a base camp.
It's just trying to decide where to go.
And then probably now it's the most current reports that's where I want to go.
Absolutely.
And that's, but yeah, we've been into the swan now four years, at least twice a year.
Yep, yeah.
Guys, you need to make sure if you're interested in what Ken has been sharing,
and make sure you go over to the Montana and Idaho Bigfoot Research Group on Facebook,
and make sure you join that if you're interested.
There's some really cool stuff that's shared in that group.
Yeah, make sure you answer the questions if you join.
My moderators and that are really particular about that kind of stuff,
which has really been good.
Also on a group site is the audio I just got done recording.
We put the link on, I sent you, Jeremiah, that link.
Okay.
To that audio.
It's an hour long.
Oh, wow.
And basically me talking, how I started, why I started the group, my encounters,
how I do my field research and all that.
That's great.
Yeah.
Definitely, definitely check that out.
Yeah.
Good stuff, Ken.
Please stay in touch with what's coming up next.
I will.
And yeah.
Yeah, I will.
Oh, Jeremiah, you never know.
Beyond the blue, we need to talk.
Absolutely.
Hey, I'm ready.
I'm ready to go.
You just let me know.
Yeah, well, do.
And I'll say it was nice meeting you all.
I'm going to get off.
I got to take some medication.
Yes, sir.
You guys take care.
God bless everybody.
Be safe.
Thanks for calling, Ken.
You bet.
All right.
Ken Metzger, great guy.
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Oh my goodness, we have people calling in.
Hello?
Hey, this is Jeremiah.
What's going on, man?
Joe, what's up?
How have you been, buddy?
Dude, I've been doing good.
Thank you for calling in, Joe.
Guys, this is Joe Perdue from Wild and Weird West Virginia, correct?
Yes, among other things.
That's true.
Man, you guys are starting to do all sorts of stuff now.
I'm excited to see what's coming up next.
Yeah, we've got a lot going on in the bag.
There's a lot of stuff that I can't quite talk about,
but we do have a show coming up if anybody's interested in it from Small Town Monsters.
called Paranormal Horizons,
and we're going to be covering topics from Bigfoot to UFOs, aliens, contact,
hauntings, you name it.
If it's strange and unusual, we're going to take a look.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I think I'm going to be seeing you next weekend over at Monster Fest, right?
Heck yeah, man, we can't wait.
I'm excited to see you and all these other folks that we normally only get a chance to see
like once a year at some random off show.
But it's really cool.
We're going to be at Monster Fest in Canton, Ohio next week.
You'll be there, we'll be there.
Anybody who's cool is going to be there.
So, you know, you definitely, if you have the ability to get out to Canton, Ohio,
want to do that next weekend.
Tickets are still available over at small town monsters.com.
You'd almost think like I'm a professional sales pitch guy at this point, right?
You're really good at this.
Aren't you guys doing a...
you're doing something at Monster Fest too, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, we're doing a workshop because we do all kinds of workshops that we host,
and we have folks come out to those and we teach you basically how to do the thing,
whether it's Bigfoot research, paranormal research, looking into the UFO phenomena,
and essentially it's like a whole day intensive when we do those.
And this time, you know, we're going to be doing one of the,
kind of like in a reduced fashion.
You get to have us for an hour and then come hang out with us and talk to us the rest of the day
and pick our brains.
But we're going to be doing an equipment demonstration to show folks the kind of equipment
we take out into the field, what it's used for, why it works, what it does, and what we're
using it for.
Nice.
Dude, I'm excited for that.
There's some great workshops that are going to be at Monster Fest.
I'm glad they're doing starting to do that.
I'm going to be doing a live podcast there.
I'll have Justin from Cryptids of the Corn as my guest for that.
It'll be a good time.
It'll be great.
So I know you've got the show coming up and there's obviously you've got stuff that's going to be in the show.
But can you give us any updates maybe about what what you guys have been up to?
Oh, yeah.
You know, there's so much Bigfoot Wives that you can't really cram it all into a show like that that's encompassing everything.
So you get to do a couple episodes here and there.
And you cherry pick some of your best data and then you go into those areas and hope for the best.
But, man, Wanbury, if anybody who is familiar with Wild Mired Radio and the Wild Mured West Virginia and what we do,
then you've seen our videos that started back in 2020 where we were going into this location
that's in Wyoming County, West Virginia, and we've codenamed it Wineberry because you're not going to
find Wineberry on a Mac.
So it's kind of like our code name for this area.
And we actually have a resident who is a member of our research team who lives there now.
And it's her family's property.
It's been in her family since the 1700s.
Yeah, there's graves up there in a family grave site that is absolutely remarkable because they're hand carved.
Like you can tell they're hand etched and not with like stone carving tools, which is what they had on hand.
and that area is always giving up new data
and it started with a Bigfoot report where we went out.
We found track cast.
There's now over the last few years,
there's been nearly a dozen tracks that have been cast
and were well over 50 that have been photographically documented
and measured and whatnot.
So it's,
It's a really, really active area.
And some of the more recent stuff
that we've gotten out of there from Beth
was some audio recordings.
She went out and she,
there's an old house that's on the property.
And when I say old house,
it was like a one room kind of,
we would consider it now like a shed.
It wouldn't be, but it was an old house.
It was a one room house back in the day.
And she, it's still in fairly decent condition.
So she'll go,
in there sometimes and take a sleeping bag and we've got her some decent equipment to run and she'll go out
there and she'll set in like for the majority of the night in the house and just record audio
and and use um use whatever kind of gear she's got with her at the time and she's she's brought back
some really interesting audio samples.
You'll hear some of them in the show, but there's, I mean, there's so many, like, you know,
I don't have a problem talking about those.
Right, right, right.
You know, one of them, it's remarkable in how close it sounds to the Samurai Chatter from Ron Hillahed.
And, oh, yeah.
And it's, you know, Ron and I had also heard that.
Ron is my partner at Wild and Weird West Virginia and West Virginia House Rangers Collective and
while weird radio and all that good stuff.
Oh, and.
Sorry,
let's clarify when he says Ron is his partner,
he doesn't mean Ron Moorhead is.
It's Ron Lehman.
Yeah, no, no, no.
Yeah, two Ron's, but their brains work about the same.
Pretty much, yeah.
So we,
me and Ron Lamb were out at our farm,
my wife and I was farm,
and we heard this same chatter,
and we recorded it.
We actually got it recorded.
Seth actually released some of it in the Mountain State Monsters' Sasquatch on Earth episode.
So you can go back and hear some of that.
But there's clearly voices down in the ravine, and there's no people there.
This is a couple hundred acres of family-owned property and cattle are the only thing that's there.
And then as far as people go,
next closest people is the opposite direction. The direction that we're facing when we
recorded the audio goes on for, I think, three or four miles before you come to the next house.
And so we got some really good audio there, and it sounded very similar to what Beth had gotten, again, really similar to what Ron Moorhead had recorded back with the Sierra sounds.
So we've been really excited about that
And we're looking into installing some long duration recorders out there
Wow
I've got some PVC out in the garage
I've got all basically I've just got to get time at this point because we're still filming some episodes
For paranormal horizon and I've just got to get the time to get in the garage to
fabricate these
Basically weatherproof tubes
to store the recorder
and we're going to start hanging those out there in a few places.
I'm going to
I'm not going to paint them camo.
I've seen some people that do a camo paint on them,
but I've got some material that I can sculpt
and I'm going to actually make them look like
tree bark and broken off limbs
and paint them up so that way they look more natural
and kind of blend into the environment
and will hopefully make them
a little bit harder to detect.
And we're going to put those out.
We're going to put one of the tree near the house
that Beth's got this audio from
and then we're going to put another one up on the ridge for sure.
And I'd like to put a third somewhere,
but I just don't know where the best spot would be there.
One of the more recent track casts
that she got out of there
was a large
there's slide in
okay
and I want to
kind of clarify
what I mean by that
you know
in Bigfoot tracks
these alleged Bigfoot tracks
there's a
this
slide like you know
you're stepping in
when you get a
when you leave a really nice impression
it's normally in soft strata
it's not
you're going to be in the gravel
you know
sometimes you'll get some good ones that are in a gravel road,
but normally it's going to be like on a mud puddle
or on the edge of the mud puddle where it's kind of silty clay material
and you get a little bit of a slide in step.
And that extends some of these footprints a bit.
So you're looking at footprints that measure from hill to toe
around 18 to 20 inches.
But if you read the footprint close enough
and you look at it, you'll see where the toes might look a little extended in the long
because they've slid farther out into the mud.
And the hill, you actually see almost like a second heel impression.
If you look really, really close on a really clean one.
If you're lucky enough to get a really nice heel impression,
you'll see almost like a silhouetted heel.
And that's normally where the hill actually came to a stop.
And that's, so we'll measure from there.
So most of those footprints that we're getting that are in the 18 to 20 inch range,
they're realistically, they're realistically, the foot is probably around, you know,
16 to 18 inches physically.
You know, I don't think that, based off the slot anyway.
And one of the tracks actually had a small track in it.
So it was about a six.
six and a half inch long track that was four inches wide and it was right in the middle of this track.
And so that indicates to me that if these things are out there, because I like, I don't like to speak in terms that are, you know, definitive.
Right.
There's possibilities that this, you know, we're all just crazy.
you know like I just don't know it
I've had that thought too
I'm just kidding
I have that thought too
like you know but you know what I mean right
like I've had experiences
actually in 2001
we talked about this on your show
forever ago yeah
I had a siting in 2001
and I recently had a siting
I can tell you about that
because I haven't that's something new
I had a sighting back in October
of this past year
I can give you a brief rundown
a bit here yeah go ahead
But anyway, you know, these possible tracks, if this is really out there and what we think it is, then this shows a large adult subject with a young subject, you know, a baby, so to speak, or at least a toddler.
And that's extremely interesting.
And to see that we're getting that out of Wondberry, because for years, we were getting the same single creature for years out of Wynberry.
The tracks were all relatively the same size.
But there was one key physical marker that was a dead giveaway, and that was the big toe.
It's big toes that really peculiar shape.
And the big toe, it's kind of like a signature for, for one.
what this thing's leaving behind.
And so we're under the impression
and Cliff Berrickman's looked at these
and Tom Shea's looked at these
and they agree that we've been collecting data
on a single specimen.
But now this shows that there's another.
And that's exciting to us.
That is very exciting, yeah.
So, and it actually shows that there's more than just another.
Like it takes two to tango, so to speak.
Yeah, you potentially could have a family unit there then.
Right.
Yeah.
Exactly.
You know, and so that's really exciting.
And we're monitoring that Beth recently, and I think what I say recently, I'm talking two weeks ago, she found a eight-inch track, which would fit the growth pattern because the other one was found in the, the, the, I don't know.
mid fall, you know, it was like around the
October time frame of last year.
Because she had just got that one, pulled out of the dirt
no sooner than she came down to Crypticcon and brought it with her so that
way we can see it. And we got a bunch of other people to look at it too, and it was
really awesome. So as far as like the new stuff that I can actually talk
about, that's kind of it. But I did have a sighting
of something back in October.
I'm a classically trained chef and I was working for a friend of mine's restaurant doing an outdoor wedding catering.
And this joint was out in the middle of nowhere.
It's an old homestead here in West Virginia.
And it's actually near the Ohio River.
And it's, I think as the crow flies, it's probably about, you know, eight miles from the river.
But there's nothing out there.
There's a couple stray houses, but it's mostly just old farmland.
It's not been taken care of farmland, so you've got, you know, third generation trees growing in.
So it's what we call like a tertiary forest.
So they're all trees that are like in the last, the oldest tree there is easily 40 years old.
So you're dealing with smaller, thick, really dense brush.
and trees that are about, you know, the width of your thigh,
maybe a little bit bigger for the most part,
all the way through this land.
And wedding's over, and I've got me and one of the other employees in the truck with me.
We've got everything loaded up.
The party's still going on.
We've left the food out because it was all indisposable stuff,
so that way they can clean up and leave.
Because they were planning on partying well under the, you know,
know next morning. And we were done with dinner right around dusk and we'd got everything packed up
and we were rolling out. So I still had a little bit of ambient light, but my headlights were on.
And we're leaving, leaving the party. We drive out and it's me and this other employee and we're
going out this dirt road. And I see in the silhouette of this, I'm like, oh, man, that's a,
there must have been an old house that was sitting there.
It kind of looked like an old, you know,
topiary, basically, that had died.
Okay.
It was that kind of shape, and it was around like roughly six and a half, seven feet tall.
And I was like, oh, yeah, there must have been a trailer or something that was sitting here,
and they've hauled it off and now it's just all grown up.
And my headlights hit it.
Well, it had been raining for a little while as we were tearing everything down.
and this thing was standing there with its back to me at an angle and it had a long kind of blondeish hair
and it was yeah and it I could I very clearly saw its left hand and it looked it looked a little
different than the ones that I'd seen in 2001 in the sense that this one had a lighter skin color
it was more like a
a tan
ruddy brown
rather than like a battleship gray
yeah right
you hear that a lot
yeah and
and the hair was a lot
lighter you know the ones I'd seen
forever ago they were
they ranged from
jet black with the little one
to like an Auburny
dark brown
to just
saw just normal dark brown um this one was much lighter collared and uh was a little bit
slimmer build and and i was much closer to this one um because our the truck came within
35 feet oh wow and you know i've got employee with me they're on the clock
and i couldn't just stop and chase this thing down because i wanted to um
but anyway
I'll stop the truck
and dad with the headlights on it
the employee that's with me
sees the thing as well
so there's two witnesses
in this event
and she's like
what is that
oh my God
what is that
you know
yeah
and I open up the door
and I get out of the truck
and I'm standing there
on the road
and everything in my brain
is telling me
like
it's research time buddy
we're going to spend
the rest of the night out here in the woods and we're going to collect as much data as we can.
Right.
And the employer side of me was like, you have an employee in the truck that needs to get off the
clock because until you get back to the shop and clean, they're getting paid $18 an hour.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
That's terrible.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm sitting here and I'm like, oh, God.
Oh, and I was so conflicted.
and my stomach just dropped.
And honestly, I'm glad that I didn't go with what I actually wanted to do
because come to find out,
that part of the property was not owned by the family that was having the wedding at that farm.
It was the neighbor next to them.
And that land, nobody lives on it.
It's a hunting lease right there.
So if, and this was in October,
So, you know, there's people out.
And there could have been somebody out in that area and see me running in.
And here I am, would be a trespasser at that point.
Absolutely.
And I'd have got smoke showed right there.
Yeah.
So, so, you know, because I did call and we set up some time to go and investigate the area.
And the owner of that land, when I called and talked to them, they weren't surprised at all.
Really?
Like, oh, yeah, it wasn't like when I told them what we saw and I said, I'm actually an investigator and I'd like to come out and take a look at some point.
And she was just like, well, I'm not comfortable with you going out there until it's not hunting season.
She's like, if you could wait until, you know, the turn of the year or into next summer, you can come out there, just call me and let me know.
And I'll let everybody know you're going to be there and what you're going to be doing.
and I've given you the green light.
But she said, right now there's people on the hunting lease that can come out there at any time and hunt.
And she's like, I just wouldn't want you to get hurt.
I wouldn't want something happening.
Somebody's seeing you and shooting at you.
I was like, well, yeah, I agree.
That's the last thing I would want to.
So we made arrangements to and got clearance to come out there.
And we're excited to get out and take a look at that spot because, you know, obviously now it's a cold case.
I'm not going to collect data from my sighting at this point.
But we've been doing this long enough.
We know what to look for.
We know where it looks the best to look for things.
And we're going to give it the good old college try and get back out there.
Well, I've been on the property where the wedding was at since then.
Oh, man.
We're really.
You got to let me know what happens for sure.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
I'll give you an update as soon as we find out.
Yeah, yeah.
And so we're excited about that one.
And, but yeah, like the only thing I can think, man, you know, we had the food outside.
And it was roast sirloin.
And I had tons of different sides and all the sides had aromatic herbs on them.
So you had all of this fragrance in the air that was just calling stuff in.
And then you had a DJ and a dance floor and music, all that craziness going on.
out here and you've got lasers and lights and all this stuff going everywhere.
Joe,
so now you know what you need to do to get these guys to come in every time.
I know, man.
I'm just going to go out in the forest cook and have a rave.
Oh, man.
You're actually going to get to see that eventually, by the way.
Oh, really?
Oh, yeah.
Okay, good.
Yeah, we're at our next Bigfoot workshop.
we're actually going to
we're actually going to do that
Ron and I used to both be in bands
we weren't in the same band
but we have enough equipment to
cobble stuff together and we actually
have some DJ lights and stuff like that
and we're going to do that at the workshop
just for fun at the end
and see what happens
you know if we're getting skunked otherwise
we're just we're going to go and we'll turn on
the we'll start up the fire
cook some food and
and
and throw on the music.
I have some fun for we get.
Joe, you've had some wild stuff going on.
I can't wait to see you next weekend, but, dude, I just...
Oh, yeah, man.
Thank you so much for calling in, giving us an update and good times, dude.
Absolutely, man.
Thanks for having me on and give me a shout to bring me on.
It's always fun getting to talk to you and hang out with your folks here.
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Joe, you're too good at that.
All right, dude.
Thanks for calling, man.
I appreciate it.
Thanks, brother.
Have a good one.
See you next week, man.
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It's said everything happens for a reason,
but maybe everything happens for a Reese's.
Take noise-canceling headphones.
Do they block hearing to heightened taste?
Hmm.
That sound seems to show.
Everything happens for a recess.
Joe's a great guy, guys.
If you haven't watched the Wineberry documentary
on their YouTube channel, you need to.
Oh, my goodness.
We have so many people to call back.
This is going to get wild.
All right.
Tate, I'm calling you back.
Be good.
Someone in the...
Someone let me know if you can hear Tate right off the bat.
Tate, this is live on the podcast.
What's going on, man?
What?
Dude, Tate.
You told me to call you back.
This is during the live show.
Oh, my God.
That's hilarious.
Okay.
Assert, this was an, you wanted to talk me off the air then?
No, no, this is cool.
All right, all right.
How's it going?
Good, good.
I'm watching the movie sign.
Oh, that's a classic.
All right.
Such a good movie.
Can you?
No, but anyway.
What?
Yes, go ahead.
This is a great night.
Dude.
Good Lord.
No, I saw your time.
TikTok about Southern California where the fire is.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
That was right where I got my thermal.
Was it really?
Okay, so the same area where Moneymaker had his first stuff happened, you had that thermal
happen.
Yeah, Cliff recommended I go there in the first place.
And that's where I found potential track.
All right.
Which prompted me to reach out to Moneymaker when, and then I met Moneymaker, the
next year in October of 2016 and that's when I got my thermal video that's awesome
guys this is hold on this is Tate Hieronymus if you're not sure who that this is this is a
one of my buddies a bigfoot researcher he's got a great documentary series you can watch on
youtube Sasquatch a search for Sabbe so make sure you hit that up it's pretty stellar
it is not in a lie it's very stellar um but it's crazy because uh on the five highway
going towards Bakersfield.
The same year that I got my footage,
but months earlier in July,
a guy got a one walking on the side of the mountain.
Oh, really?
Yep.
Oh, wow.
And I was with Moneymaker on a BIFor expedition
that I helped set up, and I met that guy.
I don't think he's lying at all.
And then we walked alongside the hill where that thing was,
and there's no way it was a dude in a costume.
in Southern California in the middle of July like that.
Yeah, I mean, you'd have to be crazy to do that, right?
Like that makes no sense.
No, yeah.
But no, you had that pretty much where you had the era pointing to where
money maker found tracks is literally probably within like five, six miles of where I filmed my video.
That's awesome.
What was the name of that area again?
I am dry.
It's terrible.
My memory is terrible.
Los Padres National Forest.
That's right. Thank you.
I can bring it up.
Yeah, Pyramid Lakes right there.
Brazier Park is the biggest town.
Nobody knows what Gorman is literally just like a couple of gas stations and a fast food restaurant.
But it's right next to Hungry Valley OHV Park.
Okay.
Gotcha.
Yeah, the road is up.
there pretty horrible actually you have to have like a decent lifted vehicle to get up that
mountain because I don't really take care of it you washed out so nobody can
really get up there either so that's why that's a good can you care of a maybe a
little sneak peek of any cool stuff you got coming up or you keeping that
keeping that close to close you say I don't really have any
like getting crazy coming up.
I have another
commentary episode coming out.
Nice.
And then that's next month.
And then after that, I have a brand new
Florida episode for the Saabe series.
And I was with Ron Reed
and Ryan Golombeski RPG
from Expedition
and Finding Bigfoot.
So we went out there,
did some stuff.
Good times.
And yeah, other than that, October is the only time I want to be doing stuff for the series, filming some new content then.
Gotcha.
Well, who knows what will be coming up next, but make sure that you just, it's the Tate Hieronymus YouTube channel.
You can look up Sasquatch, a search for Sabbe as well.
Make sure you're subscribed.
He comes out with a, you do a new episode about once every month, right, on the 20th, usually?
Yep.
I plan that.
So every 20th of October, I have a big foot.
video coming out so there you go might as well stick with the month exactly well i'm glad i
talked to you tonight thank you for uh thank you for asking me to call and you didn't even know
i was doing the live show so good stuff yeah i had no like oh i'm doing the live show
okay all right dude i got to keep it moving because i got i got people calling in so good chatting
with you, dude. All right.
Take me out,
peace.
Oh, my goodness.
Good old Tate.
All right, let's see.
Who do we got next?
All right.
Let me know if you can hear the individual right off the bat, please.
Hey, this, Jeremiah.
Hey, can hear me?
You got it.
Hey, what's going on, brother?
Oh, hey, this is, uh, this is Mr.
Craig, isn't that?
It is, it is.
All right.
Thanks for calling in.
What do we got going on, Craig?
Oh, man.
I don't even know where it began.
I know you reached out to me a while back with some contacts, and he's sharing some information with me.
It's close to where I'm at.
Be careful.
I can say I didn't know really.
Craig.
All right.
Real quick.
Yeah, is it stuff?
Okay, wow, this could get interesting.
Okay, go ahead.
Yeah, just don't mention the other people, please, like by name.
Yeah, no, no, no, okay, great.
But he shared some information.
Well, they, there was a group.
Yep.
Shared some information with me, some teachers, videos, some locations,
just to be aware of what's going on.
And I'd also recently, you know, I talked to you about some different activities and I've talked to Janice Carter and a bunch of different people just learning, you know.
And I recently had a baby and me and my woman decided to go out, me and her and the baby go out at night and just see what was going on and just pretend that we weren't bigfoot hunting, I guess.
I really don't know.
It seems like every time she goes out, it's a...
She's like a magnet for activity.
Craig, before we launch into that, we can...
You're okay with sharing the state we're in, right?
Yeah, that's fine.
Okay.
Do you want to go ahead and say that?
Tennessee.
All right.
And then that's pretty much the most we can say about where the location is, guys.
So go ahead and feel for to continue, Craig.
Yeah.
So we went at, she's been women before in the daytime, but never went at night.
She decided, let's go at night.
And I thought, well, we've got the newborn baby.
And, you know, why not have a magnet just to see, you know.
We went, this area's got a lot of graveyards in it.
We sat in a graveyard.
As soon as we got out there, we started hearing activity.
She was freaking out.
She's like, I can definitely hear stuff walking around.
She's a non-believer, by the way.
But she goes out.
Like, I don't know if she has experiences, but until she sees it, it ain't happening, right?
Right.
But we could hear, I had to record her out, and we could hear stuff walk in
or we're not sure what it was, just, you know, a lot of activity, but it was really dark out.
So we sat there for a little while.
She got spooked.
We decided to move to a different location.
It's a location I've talked about with other people before.
I've had some activities.
It's a little bit more open, just slightly more open.
We were just parked.
We were even outside.
We were just parked.
As soon as we got there, set the recorder out, and almost immediately started having
some wild action. Just noises, trees breaking, snapping, twigs snapping, movement.
We were looking around, looking off to all the directions.
We'd get there, get quiet. They'd start, you'd hear movement, and it was definite steps.
And I've not talked about this to anyone. This is the first time, so I may stumble through this.
I've texted two people this, but I've never spoke it out loud.
Me and Herb still haven't even talked about this.
So we're sitting there and we can hear, we definitely can hear activity all around.
Again, we've got the recorder out.
It's dark.
I've got a really good spotlight with me, but I've not got it on.
Just, you know, saving it.
And of course, everybody's like, get your cameras rolling, get this, yada, yada.
but I mean I'm even out here for this experience and you know you don't even do this all the time but like we're just talking and as we're talking I'm kind of getting nervous right now talking about it actually didn't think it'd be this way this is weird this is actually weirdness is part it's really interesting part of my research like yeah how people have these have these events when they're out there for them and they don't they don't know how to react but that's what they're
there for, you know, and like, I hear all these podcasts about people shaking when they tear
the stories, and you know, I'm actually sitting here shaking right now. I wouldn't believe it,
but, uh, oh, give me a second. No problem. So we're sitting there and, uh, we can, we can hear
definite movement to our left, which is on my side of the vehicle. And I'm looking around over
there and she, she's freaking out because she hears something extremely close to her side of the
vehicle, which is a little bit closer to the wood line.
That wasn't intentional.
That just how it worked out.
But so I'm hearing noises to my left and I'm looking and I can see a little bit
because it's a half moon or whatnot, clear or not.
There's definite movement.
And you, you can almost see where it's going, but you can't see.
You just follow your ears if that makes any sense.
and then I start hearing movement over on her side and she's already freaking out and I'm looking over at her.
She's like slumped down in the seat shaking just a little bit like not wanting to talk and she's trying to grin and make jokes about it.
And then we're just, I kind of brush it off.
We talk about, you know, are you creeped out a little bit?
Yeah, yeah.
I don't like these things walking around.
I'm like, what do you mean these things?
And she's like, well, I know there's one on my side and there's definitely.
something bigger on your side.
Oh, man.
And I'm just like, okay.
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It said everything happens for a reason, but maybe everything happens for a recesses.
Take noise-canceling headphones.
Do they block hearing to heighten taste?
Hmm.
That sound seems to show.
Everything happens for a recess.
We were just sitting there again, and like I said, I've got my recorder out,
But again, I don't, I've never put myself in these people's shoes that have had these encounters and never been able to, they don't share them right or, you know, they don't, they're out there for it.
They're like, oh, I'm not done this, but I'm not, went back through the recorder.
We don't talk about it, but, so we're sitting there and, man, it's almost like I don't even want to say it.
That's crazy.
This is what I do, and it's crazy.
I don't even want to talk about it.
But we hear your definite movement, and she's starting to get a little creeped out, and she's,
perks up all of a sudden. Like I said, she slapsed down in the seed a little bit. She perks up. And I've
definitely hear movement off to my left. And I'm scanning the woodline there. And I just wait and I wait.
And I slowly pick up my spotlight. It's a pretty bright spotlight. And I kind of think I see
something, but I don't. Then I hear it kind of like a step. And then I wait and I can feel her
tense and up.
And then so I'll tell her, I said, I'm going to shine a lot, you know, just see what we
see, see what happens, just kind of jokingly to ease the tension.
But as soon as I hit the light, when they say these things move fast and they move quick
and they can disappear, I'm talking about this thing was lightning fast.
What I saw was about 30 yards away from me.
It was just a slight incline.
The bulk of majority of what I saw was I'm not even, and I do this, I don't, I've not, I've not even went back.
She's begging me to go back.
Like, when are you going back to take your measurements?
I can't believe I've not went back, you know.
And when you reached out to me today and talked to me, I was like, yeah, I definitely need to share this because I've got to get it out because as a researcher, you hear this stuff.
But what I saw was about 30 yards to my left.
It moved from my left to my right.
it the what I saw with a lot would actually I hit direct movement and actually caught the glimpse of it was between six to seven eight feet off the ground like you know there was more of it but that's what I actually caught with the beam because you know I didn't have it on like a broad floodlight I had it on a broad flood lot so it just hit that instead of the broad flood whatnot that shocked me just seeing something that high and then a
Immediately, this thing was gone faster than I could move the lot.
I mean, I was just seeing movement, and you can hear it on the recording.
You can hear her talk about it.
I can hear it.
But I've not went back through it enough to really sit down and listen to it.
Just I know it's there, freak me out to listen to.
I mean, it just, it ran away, but it was, it happened so quick that, like, I wasn't expecting it to be that way.
I figured my reaction to it was not what I expected.
I figured we would talk about it.
We would go out immediately and run there
because like I say, this is what I do.
I've been there a million times.
But I'm telling you now, I'm shaking, I'm talking about it,
and I'm sure I'm leaving out details,
but I mean, you know how I am?
You've got to kind of pry me to get more out of me,
but it, I don't know.
I'm having trouble processing.
Like I said, I've texted this to two people.
Right.
And this is the first time.
I've actually even spoke of it.
I don't know if this is even where you want to go with us or whatever when we were trying to do here.
Yeah, I mean, Craig, did you, were you able to see any details on it or did it just disappear that quickly or ran away that quickly?
What I saw, I saw the mass of, like I said, at minimum was six feet.
And I saw from there up to about eight feet.
So I saw about a foot and a half to two foot of mass that large moving through the trees.
Like it was, it was higher.
What I actually, the movement I actually saw because that's just where the spot like hit, you know, was higher than say a deer or any animal that would be here would be, you know, that I actually even caught movement.
Shocked me.
And that just freaked me out that it was that high, I think.
The detail, I'm not sure if what I saw was black.
and as it went by it had a silver shimmer,
or if what I saw was silver,
and as it went by, it turned to black.
If that makes any sense.
Right.
Like as soon as the light hit it,
there was that flashes of color.
And like I said,
I'm not,
I'm not worked it out because I'm not stoken of it or wrote it down.
It's weird that I'm having trouble processing
when this is what I'm out here doing, you know?
Yeah,
because you spent so much time in that area,
I mean, a massive amount of time.
And were there any details you saw that made you think,
okay,
this is definitely a Bigfoot and not the other type of creature
that we know is in that area, potentially?
No, no.
And that's what,
so we joke that that's what we went out there to look for that night.
But I don't know what the difference is in researching, right?
Because like I told you before,
I'm not real big into that, but I've been trying to get into it a little bit.
And that's kind of what we joked about that we were going to see.
And then so, no, I can't, and it's right on that borderline that we've talked about.
So I honestly, I can't say for positive.
I know that it wasn't a known creature because it was so small, right?
Or not so small, but because what's there are smaller than what I've seen moved through
and the way it moved through.
The speed that it went, I've never seen,
and I've run up on turkeys, I've walked up,
but you know, everybody's flushed up deer and animal
and how fast they move,
but you can follow them through the woods,
even with their noise.
This thing, it went so fast,
and then you saw the limbs follow it,
if that makes sense.
Like, as it went through,
then the limbs caught up to it.
That's really interesting, Craig.
So when you say limbs, you're talking,
are you talking about like the arms?
No,
the tree limbs.
Oh,
sorry.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well,
I'm not sure if what I saw,
what I would have saw would have been,
if it was a limb,
it would have been from the shoulder down,
you know,
the height flies,
what I saw.
And like I said,
I'm still processing it.
I talked to her.
I told her I was going to call you and talk to you.
And that was the first time I,
me and her even spoke of.
it and she was like she even joked she's like well i know i didn't see a big photo i'll just say i
thought uh it was a dog man and laughed about it because i'm like why would you laugh if you don't
believe it why would you pick one over the other you know but that's i don't know oh man
yeah Craig i mean i know this is a tough one because you're very very affected by this but
if you can it's really a thing where it would be interested in you
if you could go back and check out that area.
Yeah, normally I would.
That's what's puzzling me because normally I would go.
Like I say, she's always telling me, you know, I can have my bigfoot time or whatnot.
We joke about it and this and that.
But like, she's asked me ever since then, she's like, when are you going back to the woods?
I'm like, I will.
Or I'll tell her I'm going.
I find a reason not to.
I'm like, all I really need is 20 minutes to go take my measurements,
because I wasn't even deep in the woods.
I just got to get there and walk to where I've seen it.
Right.
But for some reason, I've not brought myself to it,
but I'm also the guy that, you know, is out there walking alone all these miles, you know,
like it's weird.
I don't understand why I've not went back, but yet I'll go through these hops.
Is that make any sense?
Yeah, and I mean, listeners need to know that, like, you are going out in the woods by yourself,
and like you're hiking what eight to ten miles like it's nothing in the in the middle of nowhere it's
wild um but you know i know going through the thing that i experienced a few weekends ago when my son and i
went camping and we had some stuff happen like i was affected pretty hard by that and there was a point
where i was like i don't even want to come back and do any of this again and that feeling kind of went
away once we left the area about 10 miles out of it.
You were saying you don't want to come back and do any of what, like any, any camping or
even the podcast stuff.
Oh, just the camping because like, so what I feel happened is when we're in that area,
I feel like I was affected by infrasound.
Right.
Like I was telling you earlier.
And it just hit me really hard.
And I was like, you know, feeling kind of angry, feeling like, I don't know what's going on
here, it's really messing with me. And I was like, you know what? I just want to get out of here.
And about like 10 minutes away from the area, like that whole feeling just left. It was,
it was a very weird experience, Craig. I'm still kind of processing that myself and it's been
a number of weeks. So, um, yeah. Like so this happened, my, my, my sidding, or if you want to call
it that, I mean, everybody's going to classify them different.
I'm definitely going to say it was a siding.
I won't say it was a broad daylight, full-body siding, you know,
but I'm definitely leaning because of what I saw in the hype
and the movement and the sounds leading up to it and afterwards
and all our actions.
I definitely believe it was a siding, but like I almost, like I talked to you before,
you know, what am I going to do when I see one?
I was like, I really don't know.
Like, once I've seen it, like my feelings,
Like, I believe these creatures 100% wholeheartedly exist.
But then it was like, oh, we talked about it for like a hot second in the woods there.
We left.
We came home.
And ever since then, I've just been like, I'm done with everything.
I'm good.
But like, I don't know.
And then you reached out to me today.
And I was like, no, I can't be done.
I got to go back.
I got to do this for, you know.
But like, I understand now.
I used to hear these people talk.
about how they would hold these encounters in for years and years and years.
And I'm like, no, you got to scare it.
But like, I understand now.
I mean, it's crazy.
It's a wild feeling.
It's, like I say, talking to you now, I'm shaking.
And I was in a car.
Exactly.
You know, it wasn't like I walked up on this thing, you know.
Craig, I'd be interested to see if you're able, if you're able to see any tracks in that area.
I mean, if you do decide that you can.
can go back. I would be very
curious to see, you know, what
measurements you take
and if there's any evidence
that you find there, too.
I'm going tomorrow.
Okay. That's great.
We already talked
about it because we were going to go tonight,
but we just said, I need
to go in the daytime to get my measurements right
before we go try to have another experience.
And then, like I said,
I don't know. She's like
magnet for it. So if you guys got any non-believered women out there, take them with you if you want to
have any experience because it's wild. Well, all right, I'll keep that in mind.
Craig, it's been it's been a pleasure chatting with you again. I think if you could, you know,
maybe in the next few days, if you have any updates, definitely reach out. Let me know what you find.
Yeah, I'll go out and get some measurements tomorrow and I'll get them sent over to you.
And if I can, like I said, I don't know why I've not went and pulled the recording off.
We listened to it as we're leaving and we could hear it.
And I've just set it down.
I'm not put it on the computer.
So I'll try and get to that too and get that sent over to you.
Absolutely.
Well, Craig, thank you for calling in.
I appreciate it.
Hey, no problem, brother.
As in fun, as always.
All right.
Be safe.
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Hello.
Hi, this is Jeremiah.
Hello, this is Kevin. Can you hear me?
Oh, hey, Kevin. How's it going?
All right. How's it going?
Dude, I've had so many people calling in.
I'm excited to talk to you.
Do you mind introducing yourself really quick to the listeners
And listeners, if you can let me know if you can hear Kevin in the chat.
And then after we hear that, we'll go ahead.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I was in the chat.
I was listening to the sighting.
And maybe I was behind or something.
The chat is a little behind.
But, yeah, anyway, this is Kevin Llewellyn.
And I'm in eastern Washington State.
at 10 years of age, I saw Roger Patterson in person present the Patterson-Gimlin film.
And so I was hooked at that time.
I've been a Bigfoot enthusiast then, giving way my age here,
but I've been an enthusiast for 57 years.
Yeah, and stuff's going on up here.
It continues to go on.
The two weeks ago was in the Washington Cascades, Cascade Mountain Range of Washington and Oregon are, I, you know, I think it's the heart of Bigfoot activity.
You know, I know they're all over North America and everything and Alaska and, but yeah, the Cascade range, you know, is definitely one of the hot spots.
So, yeah, just, you know, I had stuff going on, like, say, two weeks ago.
If you want me to kind of go into what we found and things that we heard then.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Yeah, the first night, there was a wood knock unsolicited wood knock south of camp.
And then just after 2 a.m.,
We heard some things, the coyotes going off, but on my audio, I've got two clips and I wish they were closer to the recorders.
I listened to it with my headphones on and it almost seems like, well, there's a possibility.
I'm just not sure, but there's a possibility that it's not a coyote that's set off the coyotes.
So you hear it said, you know, a lot that a bigfoot howl, you know, sets off the coyotes.
And they start here and they're howling and screaming and stuff.
And so anyway, we, I just kind of had this gut feeling.
Another thing that was going on, and this might not mean anything at all.
But we were sitting there in camp and the frogs were going off to the east.
of us and you know frogs will just go and they they won't shut up you know but all of a
sudden they would just go quiet and they would stay quiet for a few minutes and this may be just
you know typical frog behavior i don't know i don't know about frogs but and then and then they
would start in again and then all of a sudden they would just shut up we didn't hear anything
walking around but we were just you know listening to other wildlife or
you know, when you're out there, you know, pay attention to the other wildlife to see what they're doing if you're going to maybe get any bigfoot activity going on and how that affects the other wildlife.
And so I just had kind of this gut feeling like could there be something east of our camp that was over there maybe listening to us?
Could there be some bigfoot activity that was going on over there?
So the next morning myself and two others went over.
And, you know, it's hard to say exactly how far away from camp, less than 100 yards, you know, because we've got to walk around all the deadfall trees.
So you're zigzagging, you know, to go back in there and checking things out.
And it came upon this area.
And oh, three, four feet wide, nine, ten feet long.
and there were these boughs laid down on the ground.
And there was a smaller snag, dead tree that came down.
And so we were looking at the boughs, we were looking at this thing, did it bring down these boughs?
We did a lot of checking, we did a lot of experimenting with those boughs, breaking them ourselves.
and they were broken, but like broken and peeled.
So two, three inches up the little limb of the broken bow, you know, it was, the bark was peeled away.
And so we're thinking, and all this is laying there by this downed tree.
The, I looked and looked for hair.
I can't tell you how long I looked at it.
Now I'm like, okay, come on.
Got to find some Bigfoot hair, you know, here in the, yeah.
But so anyway, definitely we're doing that.
So we decided, okay, let's say Bigfoot did not peel these boughs off and try to make a mat or a place here on the ground.
So say these boughs came down with the tree when it fell.
But at the same time, I was going through this matted area.
and, you know, in places there were boughs that were four or five boughs deep.
So we're like, okay, so then, okay, let's just say, you know, okay, it's not, let's say, okay,
don't jump to saying that it's big foot right away.
Yeah, let's say, okay, let's say the tree did this when it fell, when it came down.
but then about 30 feet away was another spot and it was just a small little area of boughs that were kind of piled up there and there was another little tiny snag a little deadfall right along there and on the one side of the deadfall were two sticks in an x and on the other side of the deadfall there were two sticks that were there and around one of them
was another stick that was not broken in half, but cracked.
And it was wrapped around the one stick
and then made a V shape on top of this other snag.
Now, I'm not much into all these Xs
and all this stuff in the forest,
because I see it millions and millions of times.
Here in the Pacific Northwest, we've got snow load, we've got freezing rain, wind storms,
and so there's all kinds of this stuff the way things come down.
So we found this possible, you know, was it a resting area?
Was it a possible kind of a bed?
Was it a spot where they were listening to our camp?
Um, you know, so like I say, we ruled, we tried to rule this stuff out.
Say nature brought that tree down. Say it, it brought those boughs down in the one spot.
How it kind of piled them up, I don't know. But then, you know, like say, 30 feet away was this other spot.
And so you combine the two together and it was like, you know, okay, explain that to me.
I, you know, that's what I always do to people.
I always say, okay, you know, you explain that to me, you know, help me out.
Explain this to me.
You know, how did this happen?
Exactly.
So later in the, so, yeah, so then later in the afternoon, 2.30 or so I took another couple
investigators because they were out that morning exploring in a different direction,
bushwhacking in a different direction.
And so I took them back, you know, and I said, hey, you know, you got to look at this.
Take a look at this.
So I had some other people back there from our camp.
And three of us hung back.
And we were hanging around and we still kept looking.
And, you know, and we had circled that morning myself and the other two that were with me.
You know, we were doing circles around there trying to find, you know, any other signs that could point towards Bigfoot, you know.
But anyway, in the afternoon, myself and two other people were back there.
And all of a sudden, the one guy goes, you know, I hear something walking back over there,
you know, further to the east.
And we're listening and we could hear the little twig snaps.
There was something moving back over there.
And there was kind of a vocalization.
You know, I thought, okay, that sounds like maybe like an elk.
Elk will do like a mu, you know, mew, kind of a thing.
But then all of a sudden, we heard rock clacks.
You know, no, duh, elk do not do rock lines.
Right.
That's not an elk thing.
Okay.
You know, if you know me, I'm always trying to rule out stuff, you know, it's like, you know, okay, what else is out there?
You know, elk, fox, bear, you know, that's going to do things.
but okay then all of a sudden these rock clacks start in and I look at the other two you know
and I said to the one you know I said that's rock clacking and he said yes that's rock clacking
and so yeah and so we're standing there listening and then the other one he was a few yards
in front of me and the other guy he's got to I still keep hearing it there's still something
moving over there and so like I say I can't remember how long
it wasn't terribly long that the rock clacking went on but it was several times and then I took a little
twig and I tapped on a you know a dead stick or a dead limb sticking up out of a dead fall
a down tree and so I kind of did my own little tapping and to try to see if I could get any kind of
response and that and well the rock clacking stopped so they didn't yeah
They didn't want to try to, you know, answer or do anything like that back.
And so anyway, you know, it just, it wasn't like, it wasn't a nest, but was it, you know,
was it a spot?
It was definitely in a location where they could easily listen to our camp.
And so was there something going on there?
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They say everything happens for a reason, but I suspect,
Everything happens for a recesses.
Like this commercial break,
did you need 15 seconds away from music,
or 15 seconds to eat arreases?
Perhaps it's true.
Everything happens for a reases.
I just can't say 100% sure.
If we would have found some hair,
then, okay, then I would say for sure.
And not just jump to the conclusion
that Bigfoot was making some kind of a mask.
or some kind of a place to sit or lay down.
Exactly.
Yeah.
That's a thing where, you know, because when I see stuff like that, I'm always thinking, okay, maybe Bigfoot, but potentially bushcraft.
But you mentioned some stuff that's like, it's very weird, right?
And especially the rock clacking.
I mean, that's very weird.
Yeah.
You know, it wasn't, and we weren't, we didn't find any, you know, kind of, you know,
shelter type things
like you say like somebody
doing somebody practicing survival
thing or anything like that
you know there was no lean to
it was just that
that mat of bows
laid out and then
like I say 30 feet away
there was almost another spot
and of course in my mind
I'm picturing all this well
could have been a big foot
and what maybe a mama and
She took her little toddler and she's like, goes over here and it's like, you know, you sit here.
You don't move.
You know, I'm going to lay down and listen to the camp, listen to those humans over there.
And so, you know, my mind, my mind gets going like that.
But then in reality, or I mean to keep it serious with investigating, you know, it's like, okay, we got to rule out these other things.
like you say, boy, I wish I could have found some hair.
I was sky high there for a few minutes.
Like there's got to be some hair around in here that could maybe point us towards Bigfoot.
But anyway, yeah, like I say, that was in the Washington Cascades two weeks ago.
And so, you know, things just keep, you know, I just keep having things continue to happen.
but just can't get anything, you know, on video.
Right.
Well, keep going.
I mean, thank you for sharing about that.
Is that a place you might be going back to, Kevin?
Oh, yeah.
I've been there.
I've been there, yeah.
I've been there, yeah, multiple times.
And we'll be going back there.
You know, so, yeah, it's a spot that, yeah, it has activity for sure.
you know, for decades that there's been activity.
So, yeah.
Have there been visual sightings there as well?
Oh, yeah.
There has.
Yeah.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah.
So, yeah, it's it.
And, you know, so yeah, there's family units that have been in that area, like you say, for decades.
And, you know, you just, you know, you've got to just catch them, you know, try to draw
them into campus.
I continue to do the curiosity type stuff.
That's my approach.
You know, I'll play harmonica, you know, flute type thing.
And, you know, anything to, you know, to try to get their curiosity going and keep them around camp.
You know, keep them interested in what we're doing.
Absolutely.
Well, Kevin, it's always always a pleasure to talk to you.
Do you mind taking a few minutes to talk about the, you have two books out now, right?
I do, yeah.
And the first one's called Incessantly Bigfooting, and the second one is called Incessantly Bigfooting, through time.
And they're fun reads.
They're just short stories.
And, you know, some of it is fiction, but others are based on true events in the first book.
I cover my sighting and the cast that I got of a track associated with that that
sighting but otherwise I wanted to keep it fun I wanted to keep it lighthearted
and and I think I accomplished that you know there's there's a lot of books out
there with you know with sightings and research that's going on but I wanted to do
something a little bit different and you know I just maybe have people smile and
and get a chuckle out of some of the stories.
And so, so yeah, you know, they're available on Amazon or, you know,
Barnes & Noble type things, Walmart bookstores type things.
So I do have those two books out.
And, yeah, we just, we were back at the place that I had my siting.
In the Washington Cascades, we were back there two years ago now.
Yeah, we were back there, was it two years ago?
And then we were also back there last year.
And last year we had stuff going on too.
We had some, we found on the one trail behind camp where we had just been down the night before.
We found some rocks.
then lined up
rocks placed
that were placed during the night
that we found the next morning
and we had some other stuff
going on
I think I saw some eye glow
yeah
we had some
some strange stuff going on
too
you know like when I
saw the eye glow
myself and another
investigator were in this one position and downhill were three other guys and they thought they said to me
later they said that we had they thought they had heard something walking that it would walk towards
myself and this other investigator and then it would like and then they were here coming back
closer towards them and when I saw the the possible eye glow down there um
below me, I turned around and looked over my right shoulder and down in the little gully,
very dark down there. And so, you know, and that's really, there's two spots, you know, down there.
And I was like, what? It's pitch black down in there, you know. And so I said, you know,
to the gal, the investigator next to me, I said, you know, hey, I think there might be eye glow down here.
And I had my fleer and she had night vision.
And we turned, she came around on my left shoulder.
And she raised up her night vision.
And I was bringing up my fleer.
But with my naked eye, then there was this flash of orangey red light that went through the trees.
And she saw it through the night vision, of course.
She saw the light.
and it lit up her night vision.
And so she saw it that way, and I saw it with just my eyes.
And, you know, so, you know, when it comes to that stuff, I don't know, you know, I don't know what that means.
I don't know what that stuff is.
You know, you can get into the orbs, you know, orbs have been seen in that area before.
Okay.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Wow.
So, you know, yeah.
So, yeah, so, you know, is that associated with the Bigfoot activity?
That's, you know, yeah, that's a whole other topic than going.
So, but anyway, yeah, so I've been back to the area where I have my siting,
continue to go around to North Idaho, Northeast Washington.
in the fall of
2022, I was on my deer stand
in northeast Washington,
and as the crow flies,
it's about 11 miles from Bosburg,
Washington,
and those that know the Bigfoot history,
Bosburg is the Bosburg-Cryplefoot.
Right.
No, yeah, in 1969, the Bosburg Cripple-foot.
So anyway, I was on my deer stand,
And all of a sudden there's, you know, wood knocks ring out in the gully behind me, below me, in my deer stand.
And, you know, and I'm like, whoa, that sounds like wood knocks, you know.
And so it had that happening.
And so I was all, and so, you know, I didn't get a deer that afternoon that evening.
So I was back in there the next couple afternoons.
and I guess, you know, how do you confirm that something is a wood knock and not maybe a tree popping?
Again, if you know me, I'm always trying to rule out things, you know.
So, well, I was back like the next, you know, was it even three Sunday, two D. Wendy.
I was back there, you know, at least two more afternoons, evening's same weather conditions and did not hear anything that sounds.
sounded like wood knocks at all, you know, the next days.
Okay.
And so, yeah, so, but the first afternoon, the opening day of the season, and that late
afternoon is when I heard these wood knocks behind me.
Well, then the next spring, the next April, I'm in the same area and wild turkey hunting,
and I stopped and I was walking back into the timber, and I stop and get a drink.
of water and I look over to my right and on this stump is this old glass bottle and you know kind of
those antiqueish antique like bottles kind of thing and it was sitting there flat on the stump
and there was a pine cone on top of it and this was about 200 yards away from where I was in
the deer stand the previous October.
And so I go over and I took the bottle.
I brought it home.
I have a fingerprint kit, finger dusting.
I dusted it for fingerprints.
And the only ones that were on there is where I picked it up.
Okay.
Just with my, yeah, yeah, with 1990.
And it only has the opening of like a half inch or so.
And inside there were all these little narrow roots,
a little small piece of the roots, and they were plant root, and they were dried up.
So it had been there for a while.
And the bottle had maybe even been there through the winter.
I don't know.
The pine cone hadn't.
Right.
Okay.
A pine cone sitting on top of a glass bottle laying flat on a stump.
Okay.
That's a once in a lifetime thing.
And so, but yeah, something.
you know, stuff these roots in there, I doubt that a field mouse would have tried to have done that.
I mean, he would have, there wasn't enough in there to really make a nest in the sun, shining through a glass bottle.
It would just bake a little rodent, a little field mouse.
You know, yeah.
And so, you know, I can't see it surviving through the winter, a little.
little field mouse or something surviving in there, trying to make a nest in there and surviving
through the winter, then let alone in the spring and having the sunshine on that. So somehow,
like I say, yeah, it was filled with these little roots and then like I say, pine cones sitting
on top of it. Wild stuff. Kevin, you always have very interesting stories. If listeners want to hear
more that are like these. I did interview Kevin a few years ago, I believe. So you'll want to look
through the prior episodes and you can find that. But Kevin, thank you so much for calling up and
for sharing some more stories about what you've experienced over the years. Yeah, I keep getting
out there as much as I can and everybody keep getting out there and enjoying themselves
and be safe.
And thanks for staying in touch with me.
And so great show.
Thank you.
Well, you have a great night, Kevin.
Good chatting with you.
All right.
Thank you.
Good night.
Oh, man.
Wild stuff.
Good to talk to Kevin again.
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but I suspect everything happens.
for a Reese's like this commercial break did you need 15 seconds away for music or 15 seconds
to eat or recess perhaps it's true everything happens for a Reese's guys we got to over 200 people
live right now thanks to everyone for being here i wanted to shout out and i don't know if he's still here
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let's see I think I had one more here
let me check
all right believe it or not
we're getting caught up
but I think we are going to try to call back
one more person
and watch the last one I call
this is going to be the one where it's going to be
it's it's got yeah we'll see fingers crossed hello hi this is jeremiah hey this is roger what's up
roger i thought you went to bed i don't i hadn't went to bed yet oh okay hey thanks for calling
getting close oh yeah um oh first of all let me turn his fan off y'all sorry should we
first off should we tell who you really are yeah you can't
All right, guys, this is Squatch and Holler.
Hey, guys, and gals.
How are y'all doing?
First, I want to congratulate you a little late on the,
getting over the 30,000 mark.
That's, that's incredible.
Oh, yeah, thanks, man.
We've been chugged.
I remember the 10,000 when that hit.
That was a big deal.
But, yeah, so quickly, how was at work?
You know, I started a new job.
I've been kind of busy with that.
that. Yeah. And how this lady approached me? I've known her. She, I went to school with her.
And she was like, hey, was that you on the podcast? And I'm like, I thought, whoa, she found my
podcast, whatever. Yeah. I have, you know, no, somebody posted when you did the, when you
read, you know, released the one I did last year. Yeah. Somebody posted it on the local Facebook page.
and I didn't know it and she and I'm like wait a minute what are you talking about so she explained
I'm like oh okay I didn't I didn't know it got there so she proceeded to tell me about some
strangeness at her house her dog started bringing bones of all different animals to the house
there's just on a other she owns several acres her and her husband and they're acquiring some
more there. And I'll get the twist here at the end. So she went over the fence and found a,
I think of the shed or something that had a lot of bones in it. And so, you know,
that could be anything about coyotes, whatever. And she'd been hearing sounds. She had a
cow that was killed strangely. I asked her several questions about that kill in certain parts of the
and what they look like and she answered the crick you know she didn't know what she was
answering but it was very strange um and so the next day um i got an email from somebody i don't know
he explained about some sounds he's been hearing uh strange smells but you know whatever and
and just want me to come out and uh kind of look around well here's the kicker
The story that you guys heard me tell, I believe I told it on yours about the guy that almost hit the Bigfoot in the Jeep in 2008.
It's the same area, exact same area.
Both houses, hers and the guy that emailed me.
Yes. And so we have a confirmed sighting from somebody I trust.
You know, when I told her who it was that saw it in 2008, she knew into.
She said, oh my God. I'm like, yes. And that's right there where you live.
So they're like neighbors, you're saying.
Well, these two people that contact me are neighbors, yes.
And they almost can throw a rock at each other at house and hit, you know, hit each other.
Now, when I asked her where she lives and she told me, I was like, oh, my God.
And then when I asked him, you know, where are you at?
That's exactly where the big male was crossing in 2008.
So apparently, either, you know, that's close to us where we do our, you know, little investigations in the north end.
You know, maybe there's some that move in that area or whatever, but, you know, when this was totally unexpected, and because of your show, I mean, they, and somebody posting it, now I have an opportunity to go look and investigate and maybe put some of this to,
together and maybe find a travel way, whether it's the river and or train tracks or whatever
and see, you know, because I've been invited by both people.
Really?
To come and kind of, yeah, like look around and the man, he's an older gentleman.
He has access to the big farm there.
And he said he can take me on to the big farm.
And I told him about, you know, the 2008 deal and about,
about the farmer that it you know had seen the thing twice also and it's just you know these shows i mean
y'all calling in you you never i've said this before you never know who you're going to influence
to come forward you know yeah um now we've got a cluster right so and i hear that's a good thing
but it's it's it's more people stepping forward um and it just blew me away uh i i
you know, it's, it's, um, so now I'm wondering how many people in the area have had strange happenings, because the cow, the cow didn't trip and break its leg.
It didn't, um, it was, it was hung, the way she explained it, it was hung up in the fence, not like it jumped from the other property to her property and got hung up.
it was hung up in the fence like it was being dragged from her property to the other property.
Does that make sense?
Oh, yeah.
That's a whole other level, you know, and it was being dragged by the tail.
We know that and a leg and apparently it got, they got hung.
And I don't know, Jeremiah.
It's just, you know, and I know I had my experience.
And it's been a little crazy.
I have had to take a little bit of time away from this.
And two, this time of year, what we found.
here with the high humidity and that's heat.
We don't have a lot of action,
you know,
even in light a lot of times.
So I don't know whether they,
you know,
it's sounding like in talking in,
like we know for sure,
but for those of you that are listening
that hadn't heard my story,
I actually saw one when I was 14.
So I'm not trying to figure out if they exist.
I'm way past that.
And I'm not trying to prove they exist,
you know.
But when you get,
I don't care.
how much you do this, when you get a witness or when you get evidence, it's still shocking.
And I don't know if it ever will not be, but it's exciting, you know, to have these people step forward.
And none of them have anything to gain.
That's what you need, that you look at that.
She didn't, you know, she didn't come to me and say, hey, I want to be on your show.
She was like, hey, I heard you talking.
And I'm like, well, what got you into this?
Well, we've had some strange things happen.
And, you know, I started looking and I found, you know, it's just like everybody else.
You start looking on the Internet.
And I think the first time I ever did it, it was like Google Bigfoot in Tennessee, you know,
and then things start popping up.
People Google their area.
And so now that, you know, I did your show last year.
And, you know, you have Marshall County, Tennessee.
and there's been a lot of people that have contacted me or come forward to other shows because of me finally stepping forward and going out on the limb and talking about what happened to me.
There's countless of people.
So you guys, when you, I was listening earlier, when you call in and saw, well, now this is what happened to me.
And it wasn't that big of a deal.
You know, I saw this.
I saw that.
Well, it may be a big deal to somebody close to you in your area.
to hear that. So keep telling your stories, keep coming out. And it just, it just builds, it
snowballs. And the year and a half ago, I was nervous talking on your show 100 miles an hour.
And then that and now it's like people are contacting me and I'm like, look, I'm not an expert, but I know a little bit.
You know, Mike can get you help, but it's amazing. And people are not a friend.
anymore it's just no they're not at all right and with this new job I'm like you know I'm
not I'm like hey I'm go look for Bigfoot and I've seen one and I kind of approached I'm like
oh but but no it's been a positive thing some people one one lady overheard the
conversation a while later she came to me it wasn't anything about Bigfoot but it was
about ghost and some strange things she's had happened.
And I think we all need people to talk to, you know, little listen.
So anyway, it's a good thing you're doing, man.
I just, I appreciate it.
I'll always, you know, appreciate what you did for me.
And it was, it's, it's grown.
And, you know, like, so from last year, and I'm not, you know, I'm not going to make a living at it or whatever.
I enjoy learning.
I enjoy the stories.
And I got invited.
I think it's August, I think it's August 10th.
Hold on.
And if any of you guys are in the gals are in the eastern Tennessee, North Georgia.
Yeah, that one.
I think Tennessee Wildman and CryptiCon in McNamble, Tennessee.
I think it's Saturday, August 10th.
I'll be there.
I'm not going to be selling anything.
I'll have, you know, table set up.
I just want to meet people.
you know and you know you share your stories um if you want to keep it confidential that
i'm all about that too um but stop by and say hey i mean that's and if you have questions i
might can point you in the direction you know to talk to somebody or whatever but it's just been a
wild ride and i really appreciate you and you know bigfoot society and i don't think you
real i think you do realize in a way but i don't think you really get it of how you're influencing
people to talk to each other you know so but i appreciate that roger and guys and people i'm sure
a lot of people will be listening to this so if you have stuff that you've experienced in marshall
county like you can reach out to me but you really need to reach out to roger because it's important
that a person that's in the area and that is collecting all the
the reports has all the reports so roger can you share if there's a way for people listening to
contact you yeah just um you know it's the same as my little youtube channel it's squatchenholler
at gmail.com um and you send me an email um and i also have a p o box uh you've seen me an email
if you we can correspond through that or whatever also i've got that set up um and because i
I know some people are older folks like I'm getting to be and in their snail mail type folks.
That's cool.
I mean, I've received some awesome letters and notes.
Have you really?
You've received big for sightings.
Oh, dude, I have a PO box.
I need to throw that out there too.
Put it, throw it out there because you have right now, you have older people that do not, they've got a jitterbook phone.
They've got whatever.
They're listening to it on their grandkids tablet.
They don't know how to email.
Put your P.O. box out there, and they will handwrite you letters, I promise.
Oh, my goodness.
That's such a good idea.
And it's amazing.
It's amazing to open it up and just somebody that took the time to, you know, write out, you know, whatever.
And it's just, I never expected it.
I didn't get into this.
I got into this to get it off of my back.
And then when I got it off my back, I wanted to learn as much as I could.
And when I wanted to, and I started that.
I started meeting people, talking to people.
And I'm like, you know what?
I can do this little show thing if I can figure out the internet.
And it's been a blast.
We've had so much fun with it.
And we've been scared out of our, there's been things happen that sometimes I'm like, man,
should I keep going down this road?
Because I may be pushing it a little bit.
Keep going.
I'm not.
Yes.
But it's, it's, no, and I know I sound like I'm gushing, but I, you know, I don't take up a lot of your time, but I just want to encourage everybody to share, you know, and, you know, with me, I do, I have a show.
I do a few lives. I've taken a break because of the new job. And, but Jeremiah's going to be there. He's there. He's the hardest working guy in, in this, in the podcast, business and big footage, especially.
and reach out to them.
I mean, you never know who's listening
and who you're going to inspire
to get that off their back.
And it's a great feeling.
I told my story probably a dozen times.
And not that I'm bored of telling my story,
but I will tell it to anybody
that wants to listen because I know,
I know what you've been through.
And we, so the only thing I know about Bigfoot
that I actually know is what I've experienced.
So I, you know, I want to learn from everybody and what I can.
So maybe if another opportunity arises, I'm ready for it, you know.
And that's what, that's just the nature of this because, you know, we speculate all the time.
We'll sit around and talk and I wonder about this.
And I wonder why this is.
And I'm going to tell you, and I've said it before, you have different people.
around the country that you have, I have an experience of some kind that somebody else does.
Well, this is what they do.
Well, and people choose sides.
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They say everything happens for a reason,
but I suspect everything happens for a Reese's.
Like this commercial break,
did you need 15 seconds away from music?
Or 15 seconds to eat or Reese's?
Perhaps it's true.
everything happens for Reese's thinking is maybe what if everybody's a little bit right if you
don't talk to each other then you're not going to solve anything right so um you know have your
opinions I'm fluid with mine you know if I talk if Jeremiah goes out if you go out and you and
Tate and uh you'll go do a documentary or whatever tater I don't meet him one day but uh you will
but he's um but if you go out you guys go out and have an experience and and then you know
you relay it to everybody through the through youtube and whatever documentary um that's that's as
good as goal to me because i know you guys the way you think things through you know what i mean
you're not going to like oh everything's a big foot everything's this for that so uh guys just
just keep doing what you're doing man i i mean 30 000 is amazing
I know I can see 100,000 coming and maybe a visit on Joe Rogan or something.
You all I'm not nervous about that, do you?
Roger.
Stop it.
Did I have this conversation with you?
A little bit.
Where I like, I wake up in the, I wake up at night with a panic attack that it's going to happen.
Like, I literally.
It's going to blow up, right?
No, that I, I, I, it.
It's a panic attack for me.
So don't say that into reality.
Hey, just a quick editor's note here.
What I'm referring to is that I wake up in the middle of the night
freaking out about the possibility of going on the Joe Rogan show in the future.
It's just a weird thing that I freak out about.
Not to say I've ever been contacted, but I just have a feeling.
And it would be weird.
anyways it's weird that
Roger
brought that up
weird synchronicity
anyways let's get back to it
you bring in it yeah you bring it in
look y'all
yeah I love
I take this subject seriously
but man I loved how fun too
and it's the people that I've met
here down from all over really
you know I've met a lot of people
and most of them
There are some people that, you know, in all walks alive, take themselves a little too seriously.
But some of those people, I kind of put it there.
I said it one time where I heard a guy that had a Ph.D.
And he was, well, I'm not going to talk to the redneck.
It lives amongst them and blah, blah, blah.
And they say this and they say that.
Well, you know, they're burning bridges to this thing they're seeking.
Yeah.
You know, because I know some people like that.
that I've had some crazy experience.
I found some of my best evidence with those people.
I mean, they're, and they're hard to break into their circle.
They have to trust you.
And me, you know, I'm just, I never meet a stranger.
And if somebody tells me, Roger, I'm going to tell you something, do not tell this.
It stays between us.
Absolutely.
You've got to earn that trust.
Absolutely.
So anyway.
Half the stuff I get told never.
gets on the podcast man it's crazy it's crazy right it is like some stuff you know you got
i've seen some pictures y'all oh my god oh jeez yeah i'm not going to say i'm not going to mention
anything i'm not going to but jeremiah knows something happened close to me yeah in the past
week and um i was a little bit involved with it and but what it taught me was i posted something for somebody
for a friend to help out his business
And it blew up on TikTok.
It got about 130.
It was getting about 5,000 views every 5, 10 minutes.
Really bad.
And I shut it down because people, I had a legit picture.
It's not Bigfoot.
I had a legit picture.
And half the people are saying, that's a Photoshop.
Yeah, right.
I mean, this guy I've known all my life, you know, and it's Photoshopped,
and that's not this person.
And I'm like, what in the world's going on?
And then I realized.
It's, you know, y'all, I'm not saying go out and hunt a big foot and kill it.
But it's going to take a scientist with a body.
Absolutely.
Right?
Yep.
And then when that happens, you're going to have people that don't believe that.
So that kind of taught me a lesson.
If I do find more footprints or whatever, I will share it.
But I don't expect anything out of it.
I had a discussion with a longtime researcher a couple weeks ago.
And he said, Roger.
He said, I found this evidence and I found that evidence.
and I put it out there.
He said, and I was expecting a lot of people to be, and I've seen it, and it's pretty
amazing.
And he said, it's crickets.
Nobody cares.
Yep.
He said, people are so distrusting nowadays because of AI and all these, you know, things they
see in movies.
He said, this is legit.
I had five people with me.
And I've watched the video, and it's pretty amazing.
And, no, it's not that they don't.
care they don't trust it so i don't know what it's going to take so just go out have fun you guys
talk to each other and you know it's real um but don't don't expect um i don't know i don't know
if somebody drove up on the courthouse square with a with a body i mean wouldn't people believe it
then i don't know well look my buddy you know in 2008 almost hit one you know you
Yeah, if Eric would have just swerved at that thing?
Wow.
This conversation wouldn't be happening.
Uh-huh.
No, but, but, I don't know.
Thank you.
Just appreciate everything you do, tape, and the gentleman on earlier, and everybody,
everybody that's shared their stories, keep doing it.
Thank you, Roger.
Don't let, don't let the naysairs.
Here's where I'm at right now.
Exactly.
When I'm talking about something that somebody asked me about,
and I'm trying to help them with what I know and what I've heard and what I've learned and what I think might be true with an open mind and then somebody that's not in a conversation, they'll laugh or they'll say something.
I'll just kind of look at them like, you know, I'm in a different situation now.
I'm more confident and that person is the one that's uneducated about it, right?
So when people have, when you tell somebody something that scares them, whatever it is,
usually the first reaction is to kind of laugh it off.
And so I don't even get upset anymore.
You know, I'm like, you know, okay, I mean, you know, my son, y'all, he's so funny.
I can't get him to do many podcasts.
I found a hat today that was, it looked like crocodile.
Dundee kind of sort of made in Australia at a thrift store.
I bought it, had it on there, and everybody's like, oh, that's cool, that's cool.
My son posts under it's like, he said, crocrow dot, sats, dumb, D.
You know, you got to laugh at that, right?
That's funny.
Roger, thank you for chat.
All right, I want to take up all your time.
Oh, you're good.
Amen.
I appreciate you.
Yes, sir.
Any time, y'all, have a great weekend.
and, you know, come see me in August at that, in Tullahama.
And, you know, stop by, squads and holler.
There's plenty of videos, and there's a lot of evidence hidden there.
And just check everybody out.
You know, some of these small shows are some really good shows.
But anyway, thanks, sir.
Talk to you later, Roger.
Thank you.
All right.
Bye-bye.
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Frank says P.O. Box.
Yeah, I will have to post that later, Frank.
I do not have it.
I will start putting that in future shows, though.
Thank you.
Let's see.
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Her and I can get on here.
We can tell our stories.
Maybe there's somebody else out there listening.
It's too afraid to tell their story.
Maybe this will give them the courage to come out
And now it feels so bad about it
Who cares what anybody thinks?
I know what I saw.
I know what's out there.
That's all I care about.
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Please let them know if you ever see one of these things.
You need to tell.
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Take noise-canceling headphones.
Do they block hearing to heighten taste?
Hmm.
That sound seems to show.
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