Bigfoot Society - Bigfoot Springs of East Texas

Episode Date: January 5, 2024

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, I talk to Chris from East Texas, about his property he has dubbed "Bigfoot Springs". Many interesting and "Squatchy" things have happened and are happening on this ...property to Chris. I'm still puzzled by what he's found on his property and I think you will be too after you hear this episode.Share your Bigfoot encounter here: bigfootsociety@gmail.com🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:02:24 How's it going tonight, Chris? Pretty good. How are you doing? Oh, I'm doing great, Chris. I can't even talk about stuff that's coming up for 2024, man. It's going to be awesome. I got stuff going on, but I am beyond excited. to talk to you tonight. We've been trying to, I think, get this set up for a little bit of time,
Starting point is 00:02:41 and it does sound very interesting. Without any further ado, I'm just going to pass it right over to you, Chris, and feel free to share what you are experiencing in your area. Awesome. I bought this piece of property outside of Avenger about. It's gone on four years ago. It's got a little spring fed creek through the middle of it with some pretty good size spring pools. Obviously, all the wildlife, the deer, the big cats, everything else we've got out there. These are old creeks, so they've been coming here for years and years. A whole bunch of wildlife out there. And, of course, I'm from East Texas, so I've lived here in East Texas.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I've hunted these woods my entire life. I'm 53 now. So I know all the everything we have out here. But since I've gotten this piece of property, I've never seen it, but I have heard so many different things. I can't tell you what they are. For example, one thing about this piece of property that I wanted to do, I wanted to, when I got out there to build the cabins,
Starting point is 00:03:37 I wanted to do everything by hand old school so that it's what I tell people. I want to flip like a Norman Rockwell picture when they come down there. So with that being said, I set me a tent up out there and everything else. So while I'm working, I've got a place to be. So a few nights of the week, I would stay out there while I'm clearing brush and things like this. And that's when I started noticing something not normal. And what would happen would be the first thing I would hear was being out there in East Texas. like that is so quiet. You can drop a
Starting point is 00:04:09 cue tip on the floor and hear it. It's so quiet at night out there. And I would hear a tree knock. And I've never heard these anywhere in my life, and it was three knocks. You can tell it's wood on the side of a tree. It's unmistakable. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And for the first night, I heard it. And I heard it. I thought, well, did I just hear. And then a few hours later, I heard it again. I didn't thank too much of it, to be honest. and a few nights went by and then I stayed out there again. And sure enough, every night that I would stay out there, I would hear that. And I never could pinpoint what it would be.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I would try to shine the light out. I'd try to go out there the next day and look at it, things like this. I cannot figure out what it was. This rocks along for, I don't know, a month or two. And one night I'm out there, and I hear a house. Now, when I first bought this property, there was only another house at the end. end of this county road. And we're in the thick woods out there now. And they're off the grid. I'm not really off the grid, but they're way up by themselves and stuff. So there's nothing else around.
Starting point is 00:05:15 But it's really good hunting land still. I have tons of deer and everything else coming through there, big cats, bobcats, you name it, all coming up in there for that spring pool. And so this one particular night, I heard how. And I know we have all the coyotes, obviously. I know we have the small red wolves. And we, even have some gray loafers that a lot of people don't think we have down here, which is wolves. But I know for a fact to do, because I've seen them. And I know what they sound like.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I know what the big cats sound like when they screen. I know what the bobcat sounds like. I know what the screechows, all that, everything sounds like. This was a very deep, long, very vocal and loud howl with almost a growl sound in it. and I've never heard that in my life. I listened to it, and I just, when it started, I sat straight up, and then I listen, I'm listening until it quit. Then I listen for anything else. I don't hear anything else.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Well, that was new. So this rocked on about five months while I'm building the cabin. Different times I'd be out there at night, I'd hear these things. And I've heard that how probably four times now. Now, over the period of almost four years that I live in, out here, we used to have a very large hog population out there. But the county of the state, one of the two, had spent some money to try to get the population down.
Starting point is 00:06:44 So they hired some hunters to come in and take the hogs out. And they're down, they took about 80% of them out, I would say, of that general area. So since the hog population dropped, I've noticed two things. I've not heard the howl anymore. I've not heard the tree knock anymore. and I've not been seeing the big cats anymore either. Obviously they were coming up using that as a food source, whatever this is. Now, during all this time, you could hear, at times,
Starting point is 00:07:15 we could be four or five of sitting out on the porch of the cabin, after we've got it built. We can be sitting out there just having a good time talking, listen to music or whatever, and you can hear something walking close to time. And we'll turn everything off and listen. You can definitely hear it, and it's a large bipedal, like a human walking.
Starting point is 00:07:33 And then when we all try to get real quiet, it would get quiet and we'd talk a little bit and still listen, and you can hear it walk around with it. You can shine the light all you want all that long. I don't care what kind of light you, you just never can see anything. And this happens on a pre-record basis. I'm out about working in different areas of the country all the time. My son and his friends or stuff will go up to the cabin and things like that,
Starting point is 00:07:58 and everybody that's ever been there has heard this. As a matter of fact, I've got people that refuse to go back to the cabin now because they hear that walking around out there and they can't figure out what it is. My son is in there one night and he's got the little fire going and he's sitting in the little living room there talking on the phone to his girlfriend and actually has her on speaker phone. And then all of a sudden you hear something really loud. He said something really loud slapped the back corner of the cabin real loud. and it's so loud that when his girlfriend heard it, she said, what was that? He said, I don't know. Something hit the cabin.
Starting point is 00:08:34 So then he thinks, wait a minute, dad's here trying to pull a trick on me or something. So he calls me, hey, where are you at? I was in, I think, Wisconsin at the time, or Minnesota at the time. And he says, definitely wasn't used. Something hits the back corner of the house. He goes out there with the gun, a lot, and everything. He never can see anything. He can hear a bipedal walk after a little while,
Starting point is 00:08:56 but not right away he didn't hear it. So he never could pinpoint what it was. So then we got to thinking, okay, we've got somebody sneaking down here because it's a new place. Somebody's coming down here. Probably didn't know you were here. Maybe they're going to try to break him and steal gun
Starting point is 00:09:10 or whatever. So we started really watching for that kind of thing. And a human, I don't know how to say this politely, but they're not real smart if they're a crook to begin with it. So they're going to walk through sand, dirt, mud, something.
Starting point is 00:09:23 They're going to leave tracks. They're going to leave a trace of someone. kind. We never got a trace of any kind. And to get into that property the way it is, because I left it very wooded except for just to rot the near area around it, just enough of a firebreak around it and things like that, you would have to go, if you're going to try to come in there at night, there's no way you're going to walk through these woods without just getting tangled up and vines and briers and everything else. You're going to have a lot of you're going to get tore up and hurt. There is no evidence of anybody coming through brush or anything around the
Starting point is 00:09:55 surroundings of it. And then every other way you have to come in, there's area you will cross sand or mud or something. We have no footprints or anything out there. So it's not a person coming down there messing with us. We rule that out pretty quick. And besides that, nothing was ever locked up and nothing ever stolen. We've got steel chainsaws and things like that sitting out unlocked.
Starting point is 00:10:19 And if somebody would have been coming down there, then they would have picked that up and run off with it. nothing come up missing. So it's not a person coming down there. And then at times you can be sitting out there. And this happened once the last time about, I'd say about three months ago. My son and I were sitting on the porch talking. We both came up there about the same time. We're sitting out there just talking.
Starting point is 00:10:39 It just got good and dark. And the god-offilist, almost a rotten egg, wet dog smell he's ever smelled, all of a sudden drifts through there. And I'm looking at my son, what in the world is this? And then within a minute, that smell just drifts on off. There's no wind blowing, so it wasn't like there's people near me now that have bought property near me now. And it's not like that there was their septic system or something. You've got a little smell of that or something because there's no wind at all.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Now, this has happened several times. And one other thing I will say, since the people bought the 60 acres across the road from you, They cleared out a lot of the timber and made a lot of pasture out there. He's got a few cows and a horse and stuff like that. And he keeps out there. And since that has happened and the hog population down, I've not been here in the how. But I tell you one thing that was very interesting that happened. My grandson comes out there and stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I really keep an eye on that creek, make sure there's no snakes and things like that. If I know he's coming out there, I'll check it all out and things like that real good. And this particular day I found a pretty good size, probably about a three and a half foot water moxing. And so I shot it and killed it. And I was working, so I just took a rake and tossed it up on the far bank for right now while I was finishing the work I was doing. And I got done with it and went back over there. And, of course, it's dead. Shot it with 12 gauge.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Has no head on it. Can't crawl around this five or six hours later. And the reason I'm telling you that is because so later when I tell you what's going to happen, you'll know that snake didn't move on its own just from its mouth. muscles. But I went back over there and I took the rake and I pick it up and I carried to the back of the property and there's a place back there where the hogs would get down and wallowing the mud in the summertime and things like that to get it wet to cool them off and things like that. And then they would scrape on the tree to get that stuff cleaned off of them. So I tossed that
Starting point is 00:12:40 snake down in there close to where that mud pit was, but since they hadn't been in there in a little bit, it was dry. So I tossed it over in there. Now that thing landed upside. down in a muddy area, just like a little one foot by one foot, a little muddy patch and then pretty much the leaves that all falling around here there and everywhere. The next day, my son and I said, let's go back there and see if the hogs came back and ate that snake. So we come back there and the snake is not there, so we thought the hogs got it. And we get to look around, but there's no evidence of hogs anywhere.
Starting point is 00:13:14 And then we see the snake. It's three feet from where we dropped it. and you can still see the indention in the mud where it laid upside down in the mud. Now it's about three feet away. It's sitting right side up on a little ledge, almost like it crawled there. But I shot it with a 12 gauge with buckshot, and it laid in one spot for about six hours before I took it back there and threw it down. So it wasn't muscle contraction or anything caused a snake to me. The interesting thing was in that mud close to where that snake lay.
Starting point is 00:13:45 you can still see the scales on the top side of the snake goes upside down. You can see it looked like a barefoot print. In other words, like you didn't have your shoes on, you step in the mud, your heel, and part of the left side or the right side of your foot, either whether it's left foot or right foot, you can see that in benching in the mud. Of course, the toe area was over the leaf, so you couldn't see any of the toe marks or anything. And I asked my son, and we're going to do that. I said, did you come back here earlier or something with that shoes on?
Starting point is 00:14:15 No, I ain't been out here without my shoes on for no reason. We got a hill print in there, and it's not really large, but it's definitely a hill print in half of a foot. And so we got pictures of that and everything, because we tell what in the world. I don't even know what to think. But I guess over the entire period of time, we've probably had a total of 20 run-ins with whatever's making these sounds
Starting point is 00:14:42 as far as hearing the footsteps, the walking, the smells, say the howl I've heard four times, and each time I hear it, I stopped dead still and I listened long and hard at that howl. And because the first time I heard it, I thought, let me try to figure out where it came from. And then after I realized this is something I don't know what it is, then I started really trying to listen to it, so I know it if I hear it again. And so anyway, it just, this, I've never seen at all whatever's making this sound.
Starting point is 00:15:12 But we definitely have something in those woods that's different. That's not, I was fixing to say not native East Texas, but it could very well be native D's Texas. I don't know, but, and this is one thing here. That's most people, have you ever seen a wolf in the wild? And most everybody you ask will tell you, yeah, I know wolves exist, but no, I've never seen one. I never got a wolf on a trail can even.
Starting point is 00:15:35 You get coyotes on a trail can all the time, but you never get a wolf on a trail cam, hardly ever, because they're very keen and very smart. So my thing is that there's a wolf out there that I know. for a factor there, and you can talk to Texas Park from Wildlife Division, and they'll tell you for a fact they're there as well, and you've never seen them, doesn't mean they're not there. They're still there. So we have something that's here that's very familiar with the woods, and I know, I don't know what to say. I don't know what to call it.
Starting point is 00:16:10 As a thing, my little property is called Bigfoot Springs, because we've got all them springs out there. My grandson, when he comes out there, he tells me, I'm going to set bigfoot traps. Wellness, longevity, health as a lifestyle. Every week, a new trend explodes across the media landscape. And depending on who's talking, it's either a miracle breakthrough or just expensive hype dressed up as science.
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Starting point is 00:18:38 somewhere that he's made. But there's something out there. And here's the thing about it. I've been up in Colorado before, and I've encountered a grizzly bear up there, or brown bear rather, at a pretty close distance. And before I ever saw it, my senses knew it was there. Now, hair on the back of my neck stood up.
Starting point is 00:18:58 My adrenaline starts pumping. And I've never seen it, never heard it, but I knew it was there, and I knew I was in trouble. I knew I needed to get out there. My dad spent the last 23 years of his life in Lincoln, Maine, up on mountaintop. So I got up there one time, and I encountered the bull moose. And the same thing before I ever saw that bull moose and knew he was there, same thing. My senses knew he was there.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I knew I was in trouble. But whatever this is, I don't feel threatened in any kind of way. There's no worry of my hair on back of the neck, don't stand up. There's no worry, I'm not going to be attacked or anything. I've got a bigger fear of the hogs than whatever this is. I don't know. It's pretty interesting. I'd like to know what it is.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I put out game cans, and I've caught everything under the sun on my game cans and everything else except whatever this is. I walked out the back door that cabin going to the smoker, which is 15 feet away from the back door, 20 feet away from the back door, and just on the other side of the smoker stands one of them, tamvers. and she's standing there looking straight at me, broadside, twitching her tail. And I knew not to get near her. I knew there would be danger with her if I got me in her, but I wasn't too worried about her. But whatever this is, it's definitely different. I don't see it to be harmful to me in any kind of way.
Starting point is 00:20:22 I'm like everybody else. I'd like to know what it is. Absolutely. I'd like to see it some time to figure it out. That is, you're really having some interesting things going on on that property. You had sent me a write-up of what you're experiencing earlier, and I just want to make sure, are there any other things that you've been hearing that are out of the ordinary besides howls? I've heard the howls. I've heard the treenox.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And you know how when a deer bleats, that little sound it makes. I've heard something like that. And I do have several those that bring their farms down every year. and so I know what they sound like when they're communicating back and forth doing what they do and the buck even when he makes the sound he makes but there is another sound that I heard one day that I put off as probably squirrels
Starting point is 00:21:16 because I didn't hear it long enough to be able to get a good enough you know lock on it to really tell what it is but it's almost like a I don't even know how to describe it have you ever heard chipmunks chatter and their squirrel chattering and stuff and the sounds that they make,
Starting point is 00:21:33 it's almost like that. But it was at nighttime, and that was pretty odd as well. Like chipmug chatter. I'm sure it sounds like you're familiar a little bit with things in the Bigfoot community, or maybe you're not, I guess I could be assuming that.
Starting point is 00:21:50 But have you ever heard the Sierra sounds at all? The what sounds? I don't guess so. Now, we do have Jefferson not far away from us, It's probably a 20-mile drive from where I live, that they have some kind of big foot. I don't know. I'm trying to think of what they call it. Some kind of big foot gathering where they talk about it, trade research, things like that.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I would be really interested if you were to look up the recording of the Sierra Sounds. And just so that I'm curious if it's similar to what you heard. So the Sierra Sounds were a recording made by Ron Moorhead in the 1970s out in Kavanaugh. California, and allegedly is recording of Bigfoot talking back and forth with each other. And it almost sounds, another name for it is Samurai Chatter. Once you hear it, you'll be like, this is probably the weirdest thing I've ever heard in my life. If you could, after this, I would be really curious what your thoughts are when you hear that. Yeah, I'll definitely look it up and listen to it.
Starting point is 00:22:54 How loud is that when you would hear that weird noise? Is it really loud or the sound of a normal chipmunk? The chatter or the howl? That chatter. The only one time I heard it, it was, I would say it was within 50 feet of me. So it wasn't like it was a screech loud. It was more of just a low, normal kind of a tone that whatever's making it, a normal tone it would make, not like it was distressed or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:23:23 But since I've heard that, I've not heard it all since. But now the howl, the first time I heard the howl, now that was before both the people had one, one neighbor that bought property across the road and one neighbor that bought property on the same side of my road that backs up to my fence line. Now, before they got there, excuse me, I'd say the first two howls were, I would say, within a hundred yards or less, extremely loud. close enough that I went out the next day both times and looked around to see if I could find any kind of evidence many times and see what it was and I found nothing. Now the sack had two times I've heard it, it's been further down in the river bottom, the creek bottoms down there because like I say, they cleared a lot of property. Both of them did and put homes there and stuff like that. Whatever it is has moved further back down in the creek bottoms. And since the hog population has dwindled down like since they've hunted them down, I haven't heard it since.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I bet once you clear out that food source, when you heard the howls, sometimes people can describe when they hear something like a howl. They'll say, I could almost tell what the size of the creature was that was making the sound. Did you get a feel as to how big this creature may have been that was making the howl sound? Or was it hard to gauge that? Oh, no, you could gauge that pretty good. Because if you ever been in the woods and heard a bear growl or how, not how, but growl or basically roar, in the woods.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Have you ever heard that? No. Okay. If you've ever heard that, anybody that's ever heard that, you can tell, or if you've ever heard a panther or a big cat of any kind, a scream at you, you can tell the difference in the size of the panther and size of the bear just by it. And I would say whatever's making this howl would probably be bigger than a good size
Starting point is 00:25:14 brown or grizzly bear. That would just be a guess. I don't know, but I just listen to it. It's got a lot of force behind it. It's pretty serious, whatever it is. Sure. It's probably similar to, like, when you're at the zoo and you hear the lion roar, and you're like, okay, that's, that creature's a little bigger than an otter.
Starting point is 00:25:34 It's a pretty big guy over there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can, I know what that's like. Oh, that's wild. So you've mentioned that your neighbors were clearing some property, clearing some wood out. Have you ever talked to your neighbors to,
Starting point is 00:25:50 asked them if they've ever experienced anything weird or noticed anything out of the ordinary? They've both at different times come to me and ask me what it was. The last two howls that I've heard, and I'm in and out all the time. It could be going on some more that I don't know. Right now I'm down south of Houston right now, so I'm not up at the cabin. It could be happening more often than I know. But at both times, they've both at different times come to me and ask me, have you ever heard something sound strange?
Starting point is 00:26:18 And I know what they're getting at. And I'd be like, oh, what are you talking about? And they said, man, we heard this how. What is that? Is that like a big wolf or something? They've heard it. And they can't figure out what it is either. Matter of fact, Anthony, he has a lot of guns and stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:31 He likes to hunt and things like that. And it disturbed him pretty good one night. Everybody around there has heard it. But like me, and nobody knows what it is and what's making it. Going back to the footprint that you saw in the hog area with the snake, if you were to remember, do you remember any dimensions of how long the footprint probably was? Yeah, we had laid a dollar bill on the ground by it, and the dollar bill was about the length of the hill, was the dollar bill. So it was at least the length of two, maybe two and a half dollars bills placed in the end, just based off of how the hill looks and based off how my hill looks, that would be a pretty good guess of how big it was.
Starting point is 00:27:15 But if you look at where the hill was and the way it was, if you walked up and you squatted down to pick something up and put it somewhere, it really looks like something squatted down right there and picked it up and set it up on the ledge where it was. Like it looked at it and set it up there. But I don't know. That's just guess. I couldn't tell you because I didn't have my cameras out for the gang cams up at night. So I don't know. And I do know we have honey bears in that area because just north of me, oh, what is about 50 miles. miles up around the Clarksville area, things like that up in northeast Texas there.
Starting point is 00:27:49 You have a very large population of little small black bears and honey bears there. And we do have them migrating down. Matter of fact, over on Lake of the Pines, one of the stores out there had an issue with trash being torn out of their dumpster. So they put a camera to figure out what's getting trash out of the dumpster. And they've got some really good video, one of them little black bears going in there, pulling a bag out, carrying it open, trying to find something to eat in it. So I know we have them through my area because where he's at, where that was taken was south of where my property is, and then they're from a little bit further north of me.
Starting point is 00:28:23 So I know they're coming through there. And then my son and I talked about that, you know, thought, oh, you'd think it was the back foot of a black bear. But you look at one of the largest black bears that we have in Texas, engaged that, the largest back foot based on that dollar bill laying by the hill that we took the picture of. his whole back foot is the size of the hill of whatever this was, of the black bear. So we ruled out pretty quickly it wasn't a black bear. And that's some kind of way a Kodiag bear got down here or something, which I don't think that's the case. We'd have a lot of cattle coming up missing or something like that. I combine that with the knocks you've been hearing and the howls, I would say it's probably not a bear that you're experiencing on your property for sure.
Starting point is 00:29:07 have you ever put out any audio recorders around your property? No, I haven't. But I've thought about several times, you know, talking to people in the area and seeing if I could, you know, go back on the properties and follow the river creek bottoms, down to the river and stuff like that and just, you know, see what I can come up with and things like that. I just, you know, work and everything else. I haven't done it yet. But I will tell you something that's pretty interesting. Now, this is just me assuming, so I don't know for a fact that, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:37 I bought me an Enduro motorcycle just to ride the backroads up there when I'm at the cabin. It's just real nice. You take off out in the evening and everything. You're so beautiful up there. And three single time I go out, I see a guy he's on his four-wheeler riding along. He's got cameras now all over his handlebars. And it goes out. Sometimes I go down through there in my truck or something going somewhere every evening.
Starting point is 00:29:59 You see that man riding with the cameras on there. And I've wondered several times if he's seen or heard something. and he's riding around looking to see if he can see or hear something again. Because I've never seen anybody. People that are like the jackass me, you know, they're doing their flips and racing and they're doing all this kind of crazy stuff and they got GoPro's on. But this guy's got six of them mounted across his handlebar, she aimed in every direction.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And I wanted to stop him and talk to him and see what's going on. But I just left it alone. And I just always thought, I bet he's trying to figure out what's making that noise. That's a lot to have hooked up to your bike. you're saying six cameras. Exactly. Unless he's like a YouTube guy, but either way, I'm not going to tell you what to do. It might be a fun conversation if you run into him again.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Exactly. Oh, man. It's wild. Have you heard anything going on recently from the Jefferson area? No, I've not heard anything there. We go out to Caddo Lake all the time because we like Caddo so much. And Jefferson's such a neat little older town with all the antique shops and stuff. Tony likes to go to antique shops when we're.
Starting point is 00:31:06 up there and stuff, but we walked on the little walkway that goes out to the river back there. And there's a woman that's lived down there with her children, raised her children down there for years and years. And we're talking to her one day back there about her little cabin and stuff. And she's never said nothing. I think a lot of people up there like the fact that they're known as a bigfoot area or whatever. Matter of fact, they got some bigfoot statues they'll put out and stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:30 And that's just the theme of the little town, what is it, the fall festival, or whatever it is. they have up there. I've not been to it yet, but they talk about it. And you'll hear some of them old-timers talking when they're like, hey, now, listen, this is, I don't know what they've seen, and I'm not saying they have or have not seen anything, but you can tell some of them have definitely seen something.
Starting point is 00:31:52 They know something's there, but I'd be interested to know. I would really like to take about a month or so to where I could, because I like to hunt and camp and fish and everything else, and it would be really nice to take about a month or so and just get out in the woods and just. get out there and stay out there and figure out what's going on. Oh, I agree. And can you remind me how recent ago was the most, or how long ago did anything happen
Starting point is 00:32:22 that you think may be related to Bigfoot on your property? About three months ago would have been the got off of rotten egg smell and things like that was about the last thing. And see, that happens a lot of time out there. And but like everything else, you can't see nothing. You just, and of course, it's very thick woods. And if you've ever been out in the woods hunting anywhere, you can have a mule deer 20 yards from you,
Starting point is 00:32:49 and he knows you're looking at him. He's standing a certain way. You'd be looking at him and not seeing. If there's thick woods, any animal that's in the woods on a record basis, knows that hide. And I just can't see it. And matter of fact, let's see, it was probably, let's see, what is this? is January. So it was probably back in maybe August, I think. Late August, first of September,
Starting point is 00:33:15 my son and his girlfriend were out there. And they heard the walking up close to the house. And I was out in the pool shed. And she hollered out at me out there and said, hey, where are you at? And I said, I'm in the pool shed. You're standing there looking out of the window waving at her. and she said, somebody's behind the cabin. So I go up there, and my son is in the back back there, and he's got the lie down. Of course, he's got the gun, and you can hear it walking through the woods. Wellness, longevity, health is a lifestyle.
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Starting point is 00:35:59 And then he said, hey, let's head out there and let's go ahead out there. Whatever it is, it's heading away from us. Let's just let a head away from us. Leave it alone. Yeah, probably a wise choice. But it's scared. Yeah, it's scared her about enough. And every single person that's ever been out there has heard something.
Starting point is 00:36:18 And I've had two people swear they'll never come back out there ever again. Just from here is something more. walking around and scared them so bad. Have you ever heard any weird, I'm just going to throw some weird stuff out, whistling or the noises that sound like a baby crying? Now, down in, not a whistle, but like the baby crying down in the bottom before my neighbor cleared all that property and put his cows out there and stuff. I've heard that sound a couple times.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Almost sounds like a woman screaming like she's deathly afraid or something. But what that is our big cats. Right. Those cats will sound that way. And I heard that one night, that scream out there one night, and then just about a minute later you heard a pig squalling as hard as it could, so you know those cats. And then you heard one of the cats yell pretty loud.
Starting point is 00:37:09 So the cats were down there hunting. Matter of fact, my neighbor that's right on my fence row, they had a chicken pin and put in, and they had chickens coming up and missing their hands and put your roof over the top of it, at least wire, because we have eagles in the air. We have hawks in the area and coyotes, wolves, everything else to get in there. And we do have big cats.
Starting point is 00:37:28 So they put the wire over. And they spent a lot of time and money and done it really nicely. She put out a game cam aimed straight at her chicken pin and put a light with a sensor on it, motion sensor on it. And when it went off, she's got very good pictures of that big cougar. And I'm thinking it's the male because you can't see well enough to see if it's a male with a female. But you can see how big there on this big cougar. He's standing up on top of the pin Looking down through there
Starting point is 00:37:56 Like how am I going to get through here And just behind it You can see the mama with the two cubs Standing there All four of them are just as clear as can be On that picture So we have very large cats down there But the howl
Starting point is 00:38:09 Is definitely not those cats Because I've been in East Texas My whole life And fished on a lot of these different creeks running like Big Sandy Creek for one And if anybody knows East Texas Knows that one very well And you hear them cats down there all the time
Starting point is 00:38:21 And it is definitely not a cat. Just to just maybe ask you a different way, nothing that sounds like a, like an actual, like a human baby cry. Nothing weird like that, right? No. Now, you will hear something that sounds kind of like that. But then again, those big cats will make sounds like that.
Starting point is 00:38:45 And I think that when they make those sounds, it's when they're hunting, trying to draw something closer to them. Like coyotes will yelp and stuff. One will yelp like it's hurt or something, try to draw a pet, a dog or something out to it, and the others attack it when they have to enter. And so those cats will do that. And here's another interesting thing. You said out there, of course, I don't stay there all the time.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I'm just there here and there at time. And one time I stayed out there for three months straight. And you always know when the large predators are in the area because I have tons of squirrels out there, birds out the wazoo, you have rabbits and everything else, all of the small game animals. And when the large predators are in the area, those things are gone. You won't see a bird, you won't see a squirrel, you won't see a rabbit, you won't see nothing. And it's just as quiet in the mornings when you wake up, there's no birds chirping, there's nothing making a sound. When the large predators are not in the area, and I'm just assuming the big cats, all the world's, all.
Starting point is 00:39:48 whatever this is making it sound. When they're in the area, you hear nothing. When they're not in the area, I have a tin roof on top of that cabin, and it sounds like they're running a relay race up there, the squirrels. And I have a potham, ever once in a while, he'll get on top of that roof in the daylight, and he'll bask himself in the sun. And raccoons galore.
Starting point is 00:40:08 In fact, we had 11 baby raccoons this year that grew up out there, and they're all over the porch, all over the top of the house, everything else. They're just everywhere out there. But when the large predators in the area, then things are combed. Oh, that absolutely makes sense. Speaking of weird noises, have you ever heard anything that sounds like a whoop, any whooping type noise in your area? No.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Okay. Now we have several large owls out there, and I hear the owls, but they're unmistakably owls, and it's nothing like that. And of course, you hear the hogs that they make, which is, was unmistakable. No, nothing like that. Any situations where it's like a really large rock is thrown towards the cabin or anywhere in your property? Like all of a sudden a huge rock just gets thrown? Not a rock.
Starting point is 00:40:58 I thought a stick hit the side of the house one night. But then again, I have large trees all around the cabin. And so I thought that had a fallen out of the tree and hit it. Didn't know for sure. But no rocks. And I've got large iron or rock all around up there. Obviously small too, but never even going to. like that.
Starting point is 00:41:17 What type of trees do you have on your property? Every one of them. Pine trees, sweet gum, oak, pin oak, red oak, white oaks. You damn it, we've got them all dogwood. I've got every tree out there. Okay, gotcha. So you do have oak and like acorns and stuff like that? Oh, gosh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Tons of it. And see, that's another thing. You hear them fall and hit the roof or the side of the house all the cabin all the time or the side of the pool shit. Yeah. Any lot of different berries on your property? to? No, not berries. Like blackberries, nothing like that. I don't. Now, I do have muskidine. We have a lot of mustodine out there. They're very sweet when they are out. And that's something I haven't thought about. I used to as a kid, I remember all the musketine vines we had around the old home place, which was right
Starting point is 00:42:04 there in Wood County, in East Texas, not far from where I am now. They would be laying all over the ground as they started rip and they'd fall off the tree and stuff. I don't ever find, and until we're just talking about this, I'll never find anything on the ground. Now, that could be the raccoons, the ponds, the squirrels. I mean, there's a million things could be eating at, but I just don't. I mean, I've never found anything on the ground. And something maybe to keep an eye out for, and in there could on your property keep an eye out for anything that maybe looks like a shelter that's been made or any weird trees that are broken a certain way or anything that looks like it's broken? It's like, how did that get broken by itself?
Starting point is 00:42:45 That's crazy. It's huge. All right. Here you go. Along the spring. Of course, the creek goes up, high creek will meander and ass around and stuff like that. And it's got one part where it will split off and it makes a little island back there and goes to the back corner of the property. Now, in the back corner of the property, just across on the farmer's side where there's a lot of trees and a whole lot of thick brush is where we have a pack of coyotes that live in that general area. They stay out there all the time.
Starting point is 00:43:13 but I had a point I was fixing to make and I forgot what I was saying I swear what did you say Tony? Oh, the shelters and stuff like that what are you talking about? No, there's no shelters but to say you can tell you something about that. Oh, you said you're talking about the broken. Yeah, like broken stuff. Along the edge of that creek. Have you ever seen the way the Indians in this country used to go, obviously,
Starting point is 00:43:37 they would break a tree over and break it back up straight? Actually, not break it, just more bend it. everything and kind of hold it there where it makes like an S almost. Absolutely. And then it will grow that way and that will mark their way through the territory. I have four of them trees along that creek that can't be more than about six inches around. So they're not old enough to be from back in that area. If it would have been looked like a hundred, two hundred year old tree or something,
Starting point is 00:44:06 I could think, okay, maybe somebody did that years ago. But these aren't that old. I would say maximum some of these trees. that couldn't be more than 20 years old that are broke like that and some of them the break is still down low where it was broke
Starting point is 00:44:21 not too terribly long ago some of it's 15 foot in the air where the tree's already grown and it's still broke but it's that high up now and it's definitely come straight up it'll come straight over one way or the other
Starting point is 00:44:32 and then broke and go straight back up how many have we got probably five four six yeah we've probably got four or six of them out there that's really interesting very interesting everybody comes out there. This is a very interesting place out there.
Starting point is 00:44:47 A while back you had mentioned where you had the slap on the outside of the cabin. Did anyone ever go after that happened? Did they go to the back of the cabin and look at the wall where they thought it may have been hit to see if you could see like the handprint or how high or anything like that? My son went out there and he had a lot and the gun, obviously, and he looked over. He never found nothing. And I can track a nat across the desert and a sandstorm, and I've not found anything out there that I can see. For example, when I was first building the thing, I had the cabin to where the walls were up, the windows weren't put in yet, the roof wasn't on it, it was just rafters, but I had some plywood on the exterior of the walls.
Starting point is 00:45:31 And so I was staying down in the tent that night, we had about 17 or 19 at the time, pretty large fogs that roamed around there in their herd, and they were, coming through the property. And I went and got inside the cabin because it's up on stilts. They can't get penny. And I had put my cot and I laid it in there. I thought, I'm just going to stay the night in here. I'll be just fine. And earlier that next morning, I heard the most got off a racket on the back porch.
Starting point is 00:45:59 I thought, what in the world? I didn't even have the doors on the cabin yet. So I just had some plywood leaning across the bottom of it where you could step over to go in and out because I didn't want something just walk in there. And on the back porch was a little. pig. It couldn't have been two months old, maybe, very small. And the coyotes had chased it down and were trying to get it. And you know how they'll hunt in different packs? The ones that were chasing it into an area, well, the other ones were coming back at it. And they were trying to get
Starting point is 00:46:28 up on the tall part of the porch on the front side, but there were no stairs built yet, so they couldn't get up there. So to this date, I still got the claw marks on there where they were trying to claw their way up to get up there. And that's been there for almost four. years now. But whatever hit the back of the cabin left, no claw mark, it left, no invention of any kind. It didn't leave the muddy of its hand or foot or anything on the side of the cabin. You just didn't see nothing. But then the interesting thing was there was no, because I keep everything cleared away, so, you know, if we could get a fire or something, it doesn't get right up against the edge. So there was no sticks or limbs or anything
Starting point is 00:47:05 laying there. Like we limped out of a tree, hit the side of the house or the side of the cabin there. So there was nothing back there. But there's so many leaves on the ground, too. There was no chance for a footprint to be left. Man, that says some weird stuff. Sure, Chris, man. I would say continue to keep an ear out, keep an eye out. Man, you could probably get some cool recordings.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Maybe from an audio recorder. I know you haven't heard a lot lately. But I just, I appreciate you coming on, Chris, and chatting about what's going on over at Bigfoot Springs. It sounds like a cool place. Please keep me up to date with, if anything else, weird, happens there, which I'm pretty sure you will continue to experience stuff for sure. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Whatever's there is, it's there permanently, and I don't see it going anywhere, whatever it is. But like I say, I don't think it's out to hurt anything other than survive, whatever species, or whatever it is. Yeah, absolutely. Chris, thank you for chatting tonight. Hey, no problem. I appreciate you having me on here. Here at Bigfoot Society, our goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter in a safe environment.
Starting point is 00:48:25 But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. Then we can start the conversation. and I know a lot of you have not shared your encounter at all. It's been 20 years, and it's time that you get this off your chest, and then you can get some well-deserved for rest, because I know you haven't been sleeping. I understand what you're going through,
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