Bigfoot Society - Bigfoot Stalks Fishermen Near Ponca City — ‘Something Forced Us To Leave’

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, a father and son from Ponca City, Oklahoma share a chilling series of Bigfoot encounters that span nearly a decade. What began near Highway 60 and Charlie Creek esc...alated into multiple close-range Sasquatch sightings around Kaw Dam and the river, including one terrifying moment where a teenager finds himself just three feet away from a massive, grunting figure in the dark. As cows panic, coyotes scatter, and something unseen moves through the trees, the family realizes this is no ordinary wildlife encounter.The story includes face-to-face Bigfoot encounters, nighttime fishing incidents, reports of possible infrasound effects, and unsettling behavior that suggests intelligence and intent. With activity reported by locals, hunters, and even law enforcement sources, this episode explores why so many encounters go unreported — and what happens when Sasquatch refuses to stay hidden. If you’re interested in real Bigfoot sightings, Sasquatch encounters in Oklahoma, Kaw Dam stories, and firsthand cryptid experiences, this is an episode you won’t forget.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072

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Starting point is 00:01:33 In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first-hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways, the stories come from everywhere. And each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you. you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Big for Society.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Welcome back for another episode. I've got the privilege of having Jack and Jason with me today. Father and son from Oklahoma, they've got some really interesting things that have happened over the years down there that they've experienced. But welcome to the show, guys. How's it going? Oh, going great. It's going real good. How are you?
Starting point is 00:02:24 Doing good. We're starting to get into these video interviews. and it's a little bit different than talking to people on the phone, but I like it. So I am happy and thankful that you guys are willing to do this. But yeah, let's take it back to maybe the first thing chronologically that was experienced. That might be a good place to start there if that's all right. Okay. It all started, let's see, it all started back in September 28th of 2014.
Starting point is 00:02:58 2015. My mother-in-law was dying and we live in Ponca City, Oklahoma. And so she and father-in-law live about 10 miles east of Ponca City. And it's near the river out there. So we got there probably about, oh, 1130, 12 o'clock at night. And the family had just started gathering. And we went in to pay our final respects. But when my wife, Becky and I got out of the car, across the highway, Highway 60, across Highway 60, there is a creek called Charlie Creek. And in that field out there, our cattle and everything, well, it was like 12, 30, 1 o'clock in the morning. And those cows were going nuts, man. They were going crazy. They were bellowing and whining. And I thought, man, that is just, that's weird. And then the coyotes were just going berserk out there. And so we go in, we pay our respects to our mother-in-law and her mom. And then we all gather out on the porch to talk while we're waiting for the funeral home to come and pick up her body.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Well, the house that they set at has an L-shaped front porch. It kind of goes down the east side and then down the, you see, it goes down the, you see, it goes down the east or no down the, yeah, down the I'm turned around, hang on. It goes down the east side a little bit and then back toward the west side.
Starting point is 00:04:39 And so when you're sitting out there we could hear in the night, we could hear these whoops start out. And it's just like whoop, whoop, whoop, like that. And it was over by the creek. and everything, and we could hear it.
Starting point is 00:04:56 And the little kids were getting freaked out by it, and her dad says, oh, it's just that old Bigfoot, said he does that every once in the wall, you know. And so that really added to the fear of the little kids. And after a while, they got the kids calm down, and then the kids all went, you know, back into a bedroom or something to play. Well, the father-in-law sits there, and we're all adults talking.
Starting point is 00:05:25 And he said, I've lived out here 70-some, 80 years. He said, I've never heard that before. He said, I have camped all up and down that river and all up and down Charlie Creek and said, I've never heard anything like that. And he had watched shows and stuff, so he figured it was a Bigfoot. And so we go back out, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:48 and it starts with whooping again. So we go back out. My wife and I decide that we wanted, walk toward Charlie Creek. So we start walking out in the yard. And as we're going out in the yard behind me, above me, I can hear this breathing like you would breathe in your throat, you know. And so I thought, I'm not going to ask my wife this until we get ready to leave. You know, and so we're walking. And we get out almost to the fence area. And my wife says, I think we need to turn around and go back. I said, okay, hon. So we turned around and went back. Well, when we turned around,
Starting point is 00:06:27 I noticed that the breathing just quit. And I thought, I don't hear any footsteps. I didn't hear any footsteps for it to come up there. And I don't hear any footsteps now. And I don't see anything, even though it was like super dark out there and everything. I thought that's just weird. And so we go on back. And we get ready to go home. And I tell my wife, I said, huh? I said, out there said, did you hear anything out there where we were hearing walking out there? I said, why'd you decide to turn back? And she said, I just had this thought coming to my mind. You need to go back and you need to go back now. And so I just felt worried. And so I figured we we better go back. And she said, and I did hear something. I said, what did you hear? And she
Starting point is 00:07:11 said, I heard breathing. He said, it was like somebody breathing in their throat. And I said, where was it? And she said, it was above me. He said it was tall. And it said, it was on my right hand side. which was the site I heard it on. And we were facing this direction, so we heard it up here. And it was just freaky. Pretty soon the weapon stopped. You know, everybody went home, and I would go back out to the father-in-laws every once in a while and say, hey, did you have any other things happen?
Starting point is 00:07:41 And he said, oh, yeah. He said, I kept hearing that whooping every few nights and said, I just figured I'm not going to go out there and see what it is. I know, I pretty much know what it is. And so he said, one night the coyotes were going crazy. And he said, the coyotes always went crazy. And then the weapon would start. And said, I went to church.
Starting point is 00:08:05 And it was kind of foggy and stuff one day. And I looked out there and somebody had hit a big buck, a big eight point buck, and said the thing had walked across the highway. And in the field next to his house, it had died behind this old. little eight by 10 building, a shell of a building, and it had died there. And so he told himself, he said, I need to pull that thing out of here and get it out in the field or something away from the house, you know, tomorrow. And he said, that night, the coyotes started again and said, it was right outside the window and said, I could hear them and they were fighting
Starting point is 00:08:44 something. And he said, when they were fighting, said, every once in a more you could hear them Yelp and like one of them was getting hit and stuff, said the next day, I said, did you look outside and see what it was? And he goes, no, I didn't look outside. And I thought, well, I would have. But he, he said, I got up and he's a hunter and a fisherman and everything. And he said, I went out there to pull that big old buck out into the field and it was gone. And he said, there was hair around it and stuff. He said, so I started doing semi-circles. trying to find drag marks or trying to find something. And he said it wasn't broke off. He said, whatever had it, picked it up and carried it out. Said there's no way that it could have
Starting point is 00:09:31 you know, coyotes aren't going to drag that giant deer and stuff and said, whatever it was had to have picked the deer up and left with it. And you know, that was our first encounter and that was back in 2015. And then we didn't have
Starting point is 00:09:47 really any more encounter and, well, he had some encounters. He had not only that, but he had a guy that lived down the road north of him, said that when the whooping would go on and stuff, said, one night he had a big thud. He looked in a mobile home and said, a trailer house and said, it hit the trailer house and said it actually pushed the trailer house about an inch. He said, whatever hit it, just hit it so hard it pushed the trailer house about an inch.
Starting point is 00:10:17 and he said I went out and didn't see anything and looked out my window, didn't see anything. And all that stopped and we didn't hear anything else until about 2024, 2025, when Jason and I and his girlfriend would do a lot of fishing because we lived to fish down around the river there, which is just, my goodness, maybe a half a mile from his house, a mile from his house. something like that. And then Jason had an encounter. Before Jason gets into that, let's talk a bit about the Pankas city there. So I don't think that has ever come up.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I've had a lot of Oklahoma interviews, but I don't know if that particular area has come up yet. Is it known down there for a lot of Bigfoot activity or is this pretty rare? Well, it's For For For Because of where we are
Starting point is 00:11:23 We're surrounded by a whole bunch of water Creeks and systems So we have like The Arkansas River we have Because we're like 15 minutes away 30 minutes away from Arkansas City Kansas So we got the Arkansas City River
Starting point is 00:11:37 And we have the We have Call City Which has the Cal Dam and all that So we have a bunch of waterways So typically from Ponca and call area, that's really big for a bunch of Bigfoot and a bunch of animal sightings. There's things that happen, but people don't really report it or talk about it.
Starting point is 00:12:02 There has been a siding here in town down at Standing Bear. There was this guy that had that didn't like a postage. He had gotten out of jail. He does not like police. And he remembers he was with his daughter. And he remembers calling the police and saying, you need to bring like everybody out here. There is a Sasquatch. I can you bring everybody out here. You need to bring like heavy guns, everything. You need to bring everything out here. And he never, he never went back again. Like he had, yeah, no. No. No. I actually heard that 911 call. I actually heard that call. Really? Yes. Uh-huh. Oh, so how are you able to hear that? I worked maintenance up at the Punk City Police Department. I've been there 31 years, and I'm a pastor here in town, and so, you know, I'm privy to a lot of stuff. I'll tell you, there's other police that have saw things, but they refuse to talk because they'll think that they, the other people will think that they're crazy.
Starting point is 00:13:07 No, I do not doubt it. So they've had sightings like out on patrol or going to different calls, etc. Some of them, some of them hunt. Some of them hunt. He went hunting one night with, not infrared. He went with night vision and he got a glimpse of them. No, honey. He was it?
Starting point is 00:13:29 He worked with a Bigfoot group. Oh, yeah. But I did get to see his night vision. And that was pretty cool because it was whistling. And all of a sudden the guy looks down and he's looking and the thing stands up and just walks into the trees. And it was huge, you know, but, but yeah, let's see, where were we? But yeah, there's some big foot sightings and everything, every once in a wall. But hardly anyone says anything about any of that.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yeah, absolutely. So it would be interesting when this episode comes out. Sometimes people will send emails off to the side, kind of stay out of the comments and we'll see what happens there. But did at this place, this relative's house that you were at, were they ever finding footprints around the house or anything I thought? You know, I don't think so. He never mentioned footprints or anything. I wish we would have looked. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Right. And I guess that's the thing because it's like you're not there to look for Bigfoot. You're there for like a pretty, you know, that's not a fun experience. I mean, you're paying last respects. So and it's just, it's so weird because to have to deal with something Bigfoot related during that, it makes me wonder if there's any correlation. And I don't know because sometimes, you know, well, actually a lot of times in this field, you get reports where there's been a person that's had an experience and it's related to a very almost traumatic time in their life was like divorce or they have lost someone or or et cetera. And I don't know if that happened because of that or it's just they're in the area and it just happened to happen, you know. I honestly think that that actually has correlation to my grandma passing away. Because at the same time, I haven't been to my grandpa's house in a really long time. But whenever I did go down there as a kid, whenever I went down there, I heard them,
Starting point is 00:15:52 I heard the coyotes going sometimes. I heard the cows going sometimes. But like the way that they're describing this night, I mean, everything was at the same time, going crazy. And that's never happened out there. I've never heard the cows and the coyotes and Bigfoot go at the same time. Yeah. I mean, it sounded like Noah's Ark had every single animal right there and everything was going off at the same time.
Starting point is 00:16:16 And there's no way that would just happen randomly. And it just, the fact that I knew that Bigfoot was a thing, I've never seen him before my grandma died. And as soon as she died, now I'm getting to see this dude like three feet of... Do you think that they may have showed up because it was... such a late hour at night and they saw lights and a bunch of cars. I've wondered about there. I would say that could probably be a good idea too because, you know, at the end of the day, you hear a lot of reports where it's like they're curious about stuff. I mean, I'm thinking right now a lot of times a good way to get them in is to play a musical instrument that's not normally heard in the area where you're at.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Like I've heard guys bringing them in with bagpipes. I think didgeridoo just came up on another interview I did. So I found that's a pattern where you do something that makes them really curious or like you're having a good time or maybe just making a lot of noise and a lot of lights, as you said. That could definitely bring them in. There's been a lot of reports where the person will be watching TV and they'll feel something kind of behind them. they'll look back and there's one in the window, not watching them, but watching the TV through the window with so.
Starting point is 00:17:37 I think you might be on to something there as well. So, and the 911 call, I love Bigfoot 911 calls because they are so hard to hear. And I know this guy and he does not like cops. He's not going to call cops, just to call cops. Right. 911 calls are tricky.
Starting point is 00:18:02 This is per my friend Eric Palacios. He says they're tricky. This is more or less because you got to get them quick. They don't stick around forever, you know. If you're going to try to listen to them and you don't have a connection like you have, it's almost impossible unless you are extremely quick to try to get them. So we had that interesting, interesting account and also a little bit of information about that there's other stuff going on in the Ponca City area too.
Starting point is 00:18:40 But what would you say would be then the next thing that either of you have experienced regarding Bigfoot? The next thing would be my first encounter. My first ever encounter with him. This was whenever I was a little bit younger. I was two years ago. Yeah, two years ago. So 16. So we were out there,
Starting point is 00:19:09 we're out there at the dam at Cal Dam. And we were fishing because that's where we go to fish because they have some really nice catfish out there, really nice big catfish. So we're out there and, you know, You know, I like, whenever I fish, I like to fish for a long time. So my dad will be telling me, come on, let's go. And I'd be like, just one more, just one more.
Starting point is 00:19:35 And I'll throw it out there. And then it'll be like four hours later. And I'm saying one more. So I probably said it about four times, and I got it to push to about maybe one o'clock. It was probably one o'clock by the time we started backing up. Probably about one. And so we were, head back up to the car. And I remember my former girlfriend, my girlfriend at the time had called me.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And so I answered her and said, Dad, give me one second. And so I started Pace and I've ADHD, so I like to walk around while I talk and pace. So I remember I walked over to where this type of hill is. It's kind of like a hill up to a bridge. And before then, so it's like a place for you to park pavement and then it's just like a little square.
Starting point is 00:20:23 And then it cuts off into grass. And there's some tall grass and then a hill. And then water. So no matter where anything goes, it can't leave my sight. You know what I mean? It's in the open anywhere it goes. If it goes in that tall grass and it leaves, it's in the open. So I remember hearing a noise while I was on the phone.
Starting point is 00:20:43 And so I told her, hey, hold on. And it was coming from the tall grass. Well, the noise that I was making was like a wrestling noise, but it's kind of sounded like, I don't know if you ever as a kid or something chased a raccoon or something and it went into grass or whatever. But that sound, that little wrestling sound where you can tell it something small. that's what I heard. So I was like, okay, what's over here?
Starting point is 00:21:03 And I thought maybe it was like a little cat, because I find cats over there all the time. So I was like, give me a second. So I walk over there, and then while I was walking over there, the noise got like louder. Not because I was walking towards it type louder, but like more of an aggressive type of movement.
Starting point is 00:21:20 And so I remember going in there, and all the tall grass was, it was like wheat colored, so it was bright. So any other coloration I'll see easily through it. So I was sitting down and I was looking and I told her, hold on. So I had to put myself on mute and stuff so I can turn on my flashlight. So I remember turn on my flashlight and I looked and I saw something brown in there. And I was like, okay, I don't know what this is, but, you know, okay.
Starting point is 00:21:44 So then I remember taking myself off mute. I was like, hey, I'm going to look at what this is. It's down the phone with me. I don't know what it is. So I remember like putting my hand in there and like moving it around and opening it. And man, I was probably. two, three foot away and I remember opening it
Starting point is 00:22:02 and I just remember just looking straight and I thought I was looking at a wall. Like, I mean like I thought I was looking at a wall. I remember looking up and I saw I don't know, chain mail. Chain mail, the knights that were chain mail that went from their head and down to their shoulders
Starting point is 00:22:18 were kind of made it look like this. That's what he looked like. Look at he had no neck. Like he was just stalking. And I remember looking up, dude, and I'm six foot right now. And that, he was taller than me. And you were looking at what probably his chest. I was looking like right here at his chest when I looked at him.
Starting point is 00:22:38 And I'm six foot. So imagine that and his chest is like right here. So he still had about all this to go. Dude, I mean, his shoulders were like this size of my head. Like you took my head and made her shoulder. Like this thing was massive. And whenever I mean, I thought I was looking at a wall. I thought it was literally a wall.
Starting point is 00:22:56 I thought somebody had a wall there and the tall grasses grew around it. I didn't know what it was. I remember immediately, like, I freaked out. And some odd thing happened. In my head, I was like, I'm going to run now. I'm not going to run now. I'm going to leave. It grunted at me.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Not an aggressive grunt, but more of like a, you know what I mean? Not like, I'm not, I can't do that deep voice, but like more of like a, a, like kind of a grunt at me and I started running and I was yelling at him to start the car like leave like I'm terrified and I mean like I'm somebody that's not scared of much
Starting point is 00:23:40 yeah he's not scared of much and he was running it's a monster bro like I'm not I'm not scared of much like I anything have been in roll over car wrecks and stuff like that like I'm not scared of much and I remember like saying like this is a monster like run like I don't know
Starting point is 00:23:55 what to do I can't do nothing And I remember he was trying to get me to talk about it for a while. I wouldn't. I wouldn't because what I saw that day was inhuman. Like I, it's nothing that we was meant to see, you know what I mean? And it was there in front of me. And the fact that I've heard about him and everybody was like, oh, we can't get good sightings on him. We can, like people don't get good pictures and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:24:22 And I'm three foot away from this thing. that everybody says it's not friendly if you make it mad that people can't get put good pictures because they don't like people and I'm standing in front of it wow three feet is so close uh did you smell anything when you were in that area I can't remember whether I smelled anything or not I know that if I smelled anything it was probably fear coming from myself if I'm going to be on like I felt like it grunting at me I kind of felt like it was more of like a like a get out of here like leave because he wasn't aggressively. So I feel like he was just being like, hey, don't get any closer type of grunt like,
Starting point is 00:25:10 okay, you found me. I'm here. Now leave before this gets worse. Exactly. And I just like I just remember this like this thing was just I don't I don't know how to explain. I don't, I doesn't, I don't know how to explain it. The grunt that it was making, is that sounds similar to anything else that you've ever heard? Yes. Yes. It's kind of weird. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:51 It kind of, whenever you listen to movies and you're looking at like a bull or something, it kind of sounded like whenever it's getting around to charge and it grunts. Okay. Wow. Like, like, you know that Bigfoot, it's, it's voice, it can make it ten times deeper than a bulls. Because, I mean, it's just, it's big foot. I mean, come on. But I mean, the way, how deep bull's voices are whenever they grunt, that's the deepness that it was.
Starting point is 00:26:19 And I knew that he wasn't threatening me. He was just saying, okay, you call me. I'm here. But you need to go now. Do not get any closer. Okay. Have you been back to that area since then? Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Okay. And how long did it take for you to get back there? I didn't start going back there until this year. Yeah, it probably took. There was a time with his girlfriend and me, and then we brought him back, so it was probably probably three-quarters of a year, maybe a year. Okay. And Jack, you're also there, correct, during this time?
Starting point is 00:27:11 Yes. Did you notice anything out of the ordinary from where you were at that area? No, because he had went up another route more near the water, and I went up just this little path. And when I got here, he was coming around here, and he just was booking it to the car, just, I mean, screaming. And he was saying, I mean, it was literal fear. And he was saying, it's a monster dead.
Starting point is 00:27:42 It's a monster. Get out of here. Let's go. Let's go. Start the car. And he was like, claw on the wall. Yeah. I didn't see it or anything.
Starting point is 00:27:52 And the only reason why I mentioned earlier was because whenever I said that there's no place for it to go is because I told my dad, like, come here. Like, you know what I mean? Because he's asking what? And I'm not going to explain nothing. Let me just show you. Let me just show you. It can't go nowhere because if it goes this way, it's going straight in the water. And I know that thing is not about to hold his breath all the way across the dam.
Starting point is 00:28:21 It can't go straight that way because it's going to go up a hill. I'm going to see it. It can't go over this way because that's an open field and it's not tall grass. And you can't come forward because it's pavement and I can see him. I told him, come over there and he's gone. We can't find him. I didn't hear nothing either. And I thought about this, and I wondered, I wondered how that could happen.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And I kind of got an idea, what if he went down on all fours, you know, like they do that spider crawl thing? Absolutely. It's what I'm thinking. Because we didn't hang around there very long. Jason was very adamant that we needed to leave. Right, yeah, which makes sense. Absolutely. But, yeah, I mean, that's a solid, solid idea and actually just talk to a gentleman who,
Starting point is 00:29:05 that's his thing as he's studying the whole spider crawl thing. So you left pretty quickly. You did not stick around to look at the area where it had disappeared or it went somewhere else. Have there ever been any stories of people having sightings in that same area as well? Not that we know of just the father-in-law thing, but now. I think, oh, somebody, Bigfoot research or something like that said that there were some, I forgot who it was, said that there was some activity over in Tonkawa along that river and everything, which is about, what's about 15 miles west of us. Okay. And so there's activity along the rivers.
Starting point is 00:30:05 And I think that they told my sister-in-law that they'd had a call or two about whooping and stuff out in that area before. But as far as me personally, no, you know, this is, it started in 2015, and it's just kind of increased with me and him. You know, in the last couple of years. years, which is fascinating, you know, because I'm really interested in them now. It is a thing where with, I would say, it's either going to freak you out and you'll never do anything else with it again, or you'll get really interested in it and you just really get into it. Jason, what would you say? How did it affect you after you had this sighting of something right in front of you? For a while, I didn't talk about it. I didn't want to talk about it. Didn't want to
Starting point is 00:31:03 relive the moment in my head. Like we said, it took about three quarters of a year or a year for me to come back. And, you know, I'm 18 now. So I think I've gained a little bit of, a little bit of okayness with going back and dealing with whatever it was. I've kind of faced the fact that he's there, but I'm also there. And whether he likes it or not, whether I like it or not, we're going to be around each other. And I kind of got to get used to the fact that that's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:31:58 And something might happen, and that is okay. I think that's a good way to look at it. Are you at this point ever actively trying to go into areas, and see if you can figure stuff out or having other things happen? Yes, actually. I really want to go back where I saw him and go set up like a trail cam or something. And I don't know, put some food or something out there and see if he, if I could one capture him or two, not capture him, like grab him. I'm not going to grab my capture him on camera.
Starting point is 00:32:44 I'm not going to jump on his bag. Nope. No, you're not. I wouldn't recommend it. But one, see if I can capture him on camera or two, see if he'll leave me like a rock or something, like a gift or something back. You know, because if I can see,
Starting point is 00:32:58 if I can see something that he's given a gift back, I know the camera will at least pick it up with most incensing that he rolled something over there or something. Hmm. You know, because I know he's smart. I know he's smart. Another person told me that, you know, he lives in those woods so he knows every tree he's going to see that tree he's going to see that
Starting point is 00:33:16 trail camp he's not dumb right so he's not going to want to be seen seen if he doesn't want to be so is that anything that you ever ever hear about in this area about people i say that they have you know a family of bigfoot or big foot living on their property and and leaving gifts is that ever anything that comes up or it's just one of those things where people really don't talk about it. It's it's really one of those things that people don't really talk about it. I mean, I haven't heard many other people talk about Bigfoot and them seeing him, but I really guarantee with how many people that I've met while fishing and doing things that say, hey, I've been out here 70 plus years fishing this water. I can show you how to catch one of those big gar right now.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I guarantee you that dude also has seen Bigfoot. He just doesn't want to talk about it because like my dad said about somebody that he knows, they're just going to think they're crazy. And, you know, I understand that because I wouldn't want someone to think I'm crazy whenever this thing's terrifying. And I'm trying to warn you that it's there. But, you know, people just don't like to talk about stuff like that. Jason, I want to double check something about your encounter just from the way I understood it. So you were not able to see the face, correct? No, it was too dark for that.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Right. But I do know that if I did see its face, it probably would have been worse. No, absolutely. I would be right there with you. Thinking back on your counter, what would you say is the one detail that you experienced where you're like, okay, 100% what is in front of me is absolutely a big foot because of this one thing? The grunt. Okay. The grunt.
Starting point is 00:35:07 that's all it was i and this this is an opinion that i have and i said this every time somebody talks me about bigfoot i personally think bigfoot is a type of orangutan i mean if you've seen king kong versus godzilla if you've seen scarface the orangutan i mean look at it look at him and think about a big foot he has long arms long legs he walks on his own legs he gets down the all fours he can do things a type of orangutan that's immediately what i go for i mean come on now orangutan that can think, that can do things. But I just, man, I don't even know how to... When I ask you to describe him, he couldn't, he wouldn't talk for a long time.
Starting point is 00:35:55 And then we get talking. And I said, well, sudden, what did he look like? And eventually I started thinking, well, maybe he'll look at pictures. So I said, did he look like this? and the closest thing that he said is skarkin off of the King Kong Godzilla movie he said he reminded me of skarkin because of the way he was built and stuff
Starting point is 00:36:19 interesting yeah I'll need to look that up to refresh my memory about that I also noticed by looking on the map that you guys are pretty close to a Osage reservation is that right yes have you ever heard any related things
Starting point is 00:36:38 happening over in that area regarding Bigfoot? Yes, I have a number of native friends and they wholeheartedly, for the most part, you know, believe in him and everything. You know, some of them have said they've seen things and stuff like that, but they definitely, it's Indian people have no problem, you know, and saying they believe you. exist. 100%, yeah. It's the ones I know.
Starting point is 00:37:14 I agree with you. I talk to a lot of people down in southeast Oklahoma, like around, well, anywhere down there, Hoh and I be all those places. And a lot of the accounts that I hear are like very aggressive. Have you found that that's the case for what you guys are hearing around this area or does it seem to be a whole different ballgame from what you're hearing? The ones that I've heard of and the ones that were with us, they weren't aggressive, but they were very dominant. You know, like, we feel like that when they showed their self to us, it was like, you know, now you see me.
Starting point is 00:37:57 There's an encounter with his girlfriend and I where we came up on one and it was balled up like a little, like a big rock. you know it was weird I could say mine is probably a little bit aggressive yours was a little bit aggressive yeah the other one I had was a little bit aggressive but I do think they stand the potential to be pretty aggressive if you push you oh sure yeah
Starting point is 00:38:24 are they going on there or something so Jack you were saying that you also yeah because I remember this in the in our correspondence to. So you and Jason's former girlfriend then? Uh-huh. Yeah, so you actually both had a sighting together. Jason wasn't with us, but we decided that we'd go riding around. So we went back out to
Starting point is 00:38:54 the river. We were driving around, horsing around stuff. And I said, hey, let's go back where Jason saw that big foot. And she is like on edge, you know, and, and, uh, we get down there and I'm horsing around trying to scare and I'm going, come on Bigfoot, show yourself. Show us. Show us who you are. And Stefan, we get down there and you go down this road down to the river and there's a parking lot there. And to go down this road, you make a left into that parking lot. Okay, along this road right here, right here's the river, right here's the river.
Starting point is 00:39:35 And here's the road that comes down and makes it right to the parking lot. Right here is a guard rail, what stands probably about four foot tall and somewhere in there. And there's a slope on the other side of that guardrail. Just filled with rocks. Yeah, just filled with rocks. And so anyway, I'm mouthing the big foot, and I'm going down there, you know, and we get down there. We make a ride, we're not even looking to our left. We make a ride into that parking lot.
Starting point is 00:40:04 We decided to turn around. She's going, Dad, this is a pretty sketchy road. And I said, oh, it's fine. It's just an old fishing road. So we make a right turn our car to the left. And then on our right is that guardrail. And I said, what is that? And she looked at it.
Starting point is 00:40:22 And she said, what is that, Dad? And I said, I have no idea. I said, but that's huge. And I, for some reason, I said, is that a wolf? you know, and she goes, is it a wolf? I don't, that's huge. And I said, I don't know. And I thought, well, maybe it's two wolves.
Starting point is 00:40:40 And I thought, woes, we don't have wolves around here, you know. And this thing was, it was taller than the guardrails, probably eight to ten inches taller than the guardrails. Well, I slow the car down purposely. Now, I've went back out there and purposely redone that so I could see and tell you about how slow we were going. we were going about two to three miles an hour and the reason we were doing that is because it was being very very still and it was crouched down and it had its it had its arms on its on its thighs and it had its head buried and it looked like it was trying to make a little rock out of itself but it you know the thing was
Starting point is 00:41:25 huge but so I slowed down and my camera was right there I thought Lord my camera and didn't think a thing about it, but I was trying to capture everything I could with my eyes, because I can remember things really well. And I looked at that thing, and I thought, jeanitly, that thing is a monster. I could see its hands. I could see its shoulders and back, and its back was probably, I figured it probably about four foot across on the back. and if it would have stood up, it would have probably stood eight foot tall, eight to nine foot tall. And the thing, I couldn't see its face, but I could see its arms, its hands, its feet.
Starting point is 00:42:15 And it looked like if you could take a gorilla and the Incredible Hulk and a man and just mix it. Because it had gigantic hands, but they had fingers like human fingers. which was interesting and they were huge. I mean those fingers were probably three of mine, two to three of my fingers. And its hands were bigger than it should have been in proportion to its body. Its feet were huge and it had like human-type feet. It had hair that was on its on its sides and on its arms. And then on the back it had more slick down hair like a gorilla, or a dog and it was kind of a black it was black and grayish with some
Starting point is 00:43:07 amber in there amber color in there and it looked like that they had took two bowling balls literally bowling balls and just stuck it where the shoulders would be didn't have a neck it had a clone a cone type head like a gorilla and it was just being super super like you don't see me you know, type thing. But I remember, and Pierce was just like on edge, you know, and she was looking at it. And a second we get out of there, we make that turn and we look up at the road and we're going back and then we look back and it's gone. It is gone. But that thing was monstrous. And we get on the phone, she's calling Mom. She's going, Mom, we saw it, Bigfoot. She's screaming
Starting point is 00:43:55 and stuff. But it was cool. And I mean, I wasn't scared. I don't, you know, the thing, if it decided to flip the car, it could have flipped the car easy. But for some reason, I wasn't scared. And I think it was because it was being secretive. And as long as it's not trying to be aggressive, that means it's not going to hurt me. And I'm in a car, you know.
Starting point is 00:44:22 And so we just kind of inch by it. real, real calm and peaceful, kind of like we don't see it, but we're looking at it. We're just taking everything we can take in, you know. And that was what we saw that night. Wow. What was the year on that again? That would have been 2024, 25. See, this is maybe 25, maybe the first part of 25. Yeah, it'd been the first part of 25. Okay, and you said this is a pretty close, similar area where Jason had his sighting to. Yeah, it was the exact same area. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:05 How far away would you say? He was, it was the same parking lot just on the other side. Yeah, just on the parking lot. So you probably have a literally, you probably have about 50 feet worth of distance right there. Yeah. What color was it again, Jack? He looked black with gray in him, and he had some umber-looking hair. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:35 So very interesting. So different color than what Jason saw. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. So, I mean, then that makes you ask a few questions. Are there more than one there? Are there different colors?
Starting point is 00:45:51 Do their colors change throughout the year? Yeah, just a lot of questions we don't have answers for. Have you been back to that area since then? We had one more encounter there. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, we had one more. You know, we, because that's our favorite fishing place. Right, you're not going to give it up.
Starting point is 00:46:14 If you go down, there's the first, there's the first parking lot, and then you can go on down the river to the second parking lot, and then there is a sandbar out there. And on the back of that sandbar, about 80 feet, is the trees begin. And that river is out in front of you. And so this would be probably maybe 200 yards from the first place. So you go there's the first parking lot and go to the second parking lot, and then go down on the sandbar and go down probably
Starting point is 00:46:52 hundred or two feet onto the sandbar. And anyway, yeah, we had, that was our final and probably the wildest of them. We went out there and we were fishing late, man. And it was me and his girlfriend and Jason. We were fishing late. And Jason does these things where he doesn't like to carry any equipment. So me and her get to be the pack mules, you know. And so we're down there fishing, and we fished for hours,
Starting point is 00:47:29 and we are catching big catfish, and we're just cutting the heads off and filleting them there and putting them in an ice chest and stuff. And we're throwing the guts and stuff at the edge of the water because the birds will come and eat them and scavengers will come. And so anyway, it is like, probably two o'clock in the morning because I remember it being around two o'clock. And I said, man, we've got to go, guys.
Starting point is 00:47:56 And so Jason says, oh, I don't want to go. I said, come on. He said, go ahead and start. And I'll be there in a minute. And I thought, yeah, when we get everything carried up there. And so, you know, I start taking the first load up there. When you're going back toward the car on your right hand side now is all this bush and I start hearing this crunching in the bush. Well, I know what it is, you know, by this time.
Starting point is 00:48:30 And I can hear him. And I'd take a step and he'd take a step. And I'd take a step and he'd take a step. And I'm just, I just keep on going because I'm thinking, I don't want to find out if you'll hurt me or anything. So he's not doing anything right now except pacing me. And so he's, he's, keeping pace with me and I can hear him grunting like like like that and I just go on up and I'm thinking come on guys let's go well I see Pearson she's she's got the flashlight and she's coming up the same way I did well when I get up there I said is he coming and and she said I don't know said I'll go down and get him and I said well I'll go and says no you stay here
Starting point is 00:49:22 I'll go get him so she takes the flashlight and goes down and gets him. And I'll let Jason tell about what was going on. Okay, so whenever she came down there to get me, she kind of just found me just, like, dying, basically. I felt like I was dying. So I will, I will recap on that. So whenever he had first gone up there, like he said, my former girlfriend had went up there too to take up another load. She took the flashlight with her. So I was down there no flashlight, no nothing.
Starting point is 00:49:55 I was literally relying on the moon to light everything else. I could see. And I could see a little bit in some places. And some places were too dark where I couldn't see. So I remember I was, this time I was genuinely going to grab some of my stuff and take it up there and help. But then I remember I just, I started feeling really sick. I of nowhere started feeling really, really sick. Very weak to the, very weak, sick, stomach hurt, headache, like dizzy, nauseous, everything,
Starting point is 00:50:28 like all under the sun. I just felt, I felt like I was dying. I was having a heart attack, a stroke, something, I was dying. And I remember just saying, you know, I'm outside, it's 2 o'clock in the morning, it's cold. if I just take my shirt off or something or I do something I just lay down on my back I'll feel better because it's cold
Starting point is 00:50:52 so I remember laying down on my back on the sand I have a hat on so I'm sitting here laying down like this and I remember I remember just something I don't know I don't know what it was but something just told me to look up and I'm like I said I'm laying out of my back so I look up like this so I'm like looking behind me and I remember just seeing something just
Starting point is 00:51:11 tall dude I mean this is we measured it. It would have been about eight foot. About eight and a half foot. And how far away was it? It was about 80 to 100 foot. 80 to 100 foot away. It was sitting there standing there staring at me. I look up and it was staring at me.
Starting point is 00:51:33 And so I remember in my head immediately thinking, I'm going to die either way right now. Like either this thing is going to come get me, or I'm gonna die to whatever's going on with my body right now. And so I remember immediately, I got a little bit of adrenaline in my body. I didn't get much, I got a little bit, and I managed to get myself up and grab what was left.
Starting point is 00:52:03 I mean, there was a cooler and a chair and couple fish and post. I managed to, like, bear hug and grab it, and I moved, like, two feet and, like, collapsed and fell. Like, and, I mean, like, I felt like I was dying. I don't know what was going on. I was perfectly fine the whole night. I felt like I was dying. I remember after that, whenever I saw Pierce coming back down with the flashlight. I remember I remember looking back over there and glancing and nothing was there. Like it was gone. But then whenever she was like, what's going on? Like, why are you sent down? Like, are you good or are you okay? I was like, yeah, we can talk about it up here in a minute. So I remember walking up there and I was sitting there and I was thinking.
Starting point is 00:52:43 at like aftermath. I was in there thinking and I was like, it doesn't make sense to me why he would just stand there and stare. It doesn't make sense to me on why he would willingly open himself up in the moonlight where I can see and openly stand there and stare.
Starting point is 00:53:04 And I sat there and thought about it and it was, I cut up fishheads and gutted fish and fillet them and threw him out in the water. Like right there on the bank where the birds and stuff could still get it. And I was laying down, and Pierce was taking the flashlight. Well, like he said, he was pacing him, walking him up to the car.
Starting point is 00:53:30 And so when he was pacing him walking him up to the car, then he came down there to see who was down there because they saw him go up to the car, and he saw Pierce go up to the car with a flashlight. And Pierce said that she heard pacing too. Yeah, Pierce said that she was walking and she faked a step and he stepped whenever she didn't. And that's what really got her nervous. And that's what really got her nervous. So the thing was is what he was doing was he walked him up to the car and then walked her up to the car whenever she walked up to the car.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Whenever she walked up there and then came back down there I waited for me. Wow. So what I'm thinking in my head was Was either one of two things Either he was just trying to see where everybody was at and what they were doing Or he was like Okay, you just filleted up some fish Over there
Starting point is 00:54:26 You left some guts and heads and stuff I'm hungry They're leaving I'm gonna walk you up here now So you can leave So I remember getting told something about What is it called? Infrasound or whatever
Starting point is 00:54:41 And so I was sitting there and I was sitting there thinking about it and they told me that big foots can do that and They can make me feel sick. They can make me feel Worried scared all the above and so I'm just confused as of why And to everybody else there he singled me out and I'm feeling the only reason why he also showed himself like that was because I also don't think he knew I was there because like I said, She had taken the flashlight, and I was laying down, and I was wearing dark clothes. I wear dark clothes whenever I fished. And I was wearing dark clothes, and I was laying down.
Starting point is 00:55:20 So I think he didn't see me until I started looking until I looked up and moved. And then all that happened. Maybe I might have startled him a little bit, and then he was like, you've got to go now or something. And that's why he made me feel like that. But it was just the level of, I was more scared of that situation. in my head, I didn't put it off that way because if I really needed to have time that I can try to run, I'm not going to get much, I'm not going to get very far, but at least I got a little bit of a history. Right. But I was more scared of that situation than I was the other one because this dude, I made me feel like I was dying.
Starting point is 00:55:58 And I couldn't move. And it was like aggressive, like an aggressive, he was just staring at me. How long did it take for that feeling to leave from you? Oh, it took, it took about 15, 20 minutes after we left. Okay. When he started off, he started immediately feeling better, though. Which was interesting. Yeah, which makes total sense based off of other reports that I get.
Starting point is 00:56:37 So this one was really recent then. Yeah. This was probably A couple months ago No, this would have been Let's see, this is November Yeah This was probably June
Starting point is 00:56:52 July Man incredible Still your fishing spot though Yeah Yeah I can show pictures of 8, 9 10 pound catfish
Starting point is 00:57:05 3 pound carp I can show you some big fish Man Yeah And you know I think that If he was gonna hurt us any of those times he could have
Starting point is 00:57:15 he could have killed us and nobody would have known it you know oh yeah it would have been game over for sure I think that I'm on the same page with you where you guys are putting tons of food out there and you're not leaving fast enough
Starting point is 00:57:31 you know it's like you know I'm just kind of I'm just kind of scared for you know for people to really get to get real real close with him. I mean, like he said, he could have killed us and nobody would have known.
Starting point is 00:57:48 I mean, if someone you can get real close with this thing, it'd be bad. Right, right. And this is a public area, public fishing spots. So there could be all sorts of people there at different times. Children, anything. And, like, I know the fact that, dude, I know that Bigfoot could pick up a car and throw that thing in the water and make it look like nobody was ever there. And I know he's smart, so I know he will. And kids and stuff are out there all the time.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Dogs and stuff are out there all the time. So it's... And I think that, I think he may show up like super late at night because these encounters we've had have been like one, mainly one or two in the morning. We're hardly anybody. Usually we're the only ones out there around that time. And I'm just wondering if maybe he goes and he scavenges
Starting point is 00:58:39 and knows that people aren't there. you know and that's maybe he's not really wanting to be seen and and stuff i don't know yeah the the things you're hearing at the the police station jack where it's from other individuals you know we're not going to name uh are they having their their encounters late at night too or is it all all throughout the day pretty much no they're having late at night and uh and Like the people I know, they'll go, you know, they'll be on patrol or something. Like one of them was, before we got him down here, he was with some other people. And he drove over a bridge and he looked over and he saw it, you know, out there at the edge of the water.
Starting point is 00:59:29 And he wouldn't talk about it. There was one pretty close to in town where something was looking over a wall and that wall was about seven foot tall. But it was looking over the wall. And, you know, they don't seem to come in town and bother people or anything like that. They're not, as far as I know, they're not looking into windows and stuff like that. They're pretty much staying away from people as much as they can, it seems like. Yeah. Do we know?
Starting point is 01:00:06 Do we know is Bigfoot nocturnal? Well, I mean, there. There are a lot of activity or interactions that happen at night, but I mean, they can be seen all throughout, all through the day. I've had reports where, you know, everything from early morning to mid-afternoon, but a lot of stuff is at night, though. Yeah, because I was sitting there thinking, I wonder if he's like, if he, like, is a type of, I don't know how he's spending it. He's, like, nocturnal, but at the same time, he, like, doesn't just stay in one place all day. during the morning. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Yeah. It's interesting to think about. Well, guys, this is such an interesting group of encounters because it's not one where it's like, this happened 20 years ago. Like, this happened a few months ago and will probably continue to happen because at the end of the day, it's your fishing spot. Yeah, it's my vision. You guys love it and you're going to keep going.
Starting point is 01:01:09 I'm going. Yeah. love to hear if things continue to happen, please let us know if you'd be willing to share if things continue to happen. I think that, honestly, I'm going to go and buy a GoPro and wear it whenever I go fishing. He's going to capture.
Starting point is 01:01:31 I'm going to tell you it's going to happen. I'm going to capture him on camera or I'm going to capture him by tackling him, and I don't care. Either way, it's going to happen. Oh, Jason, I might recommend the GoPro. Okay. Yeah, my recommend. Well, the GoPro, don't worry.
Starting point is 01:01:47 We want to try. There's little ball things that you throw and they wrap around people's ankles. Oh, yeah, yeah. Man, what are those? South American things, right? Yeah, use those, yeah. I don't know about the GoPro, but the last time you had any kind of it was a less go. Let's go now.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Let's go now. Nice one. Good work, good work. Well, guys, I appreciate you. I appreciate you. out with me today. Were you able to share everything that you'd want to share on the show today? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Yeah. Thanks. Awesome. Great. Well, I appreciate you being able to come forward to share not just audio, but also yourselves on camera, which is a really big step for someone to be able to do that. And we'll definitely keep in touch if things continue to happen. but thank you so much for coming on the show today.
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