Bigfoot Society - Bigfoot was at Cultus Lake!

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

Josh from Oregon is back and he shares remarkable Sasquatch encounters from the Pacific Northwest that you won’t want to miss. Dive into detailed stories ranging from mysterious sightings at Oakridg...e’s Sasquatch Summer Fest to mind-blowing interactions in Westland and Cultis Lake. Josh vividly recounts eerie experiences with red light beams, intense sensations of heat, and a massive male Bigfoot taking down a coyote pack. Discover firsthand accounts of Bigfoot communication, peculiar sounds, and encounters with juvenile Bigfoots. This episode is packed with captivating tales that will keep Bigfoot enthusiasts on the edge of their seats.Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: bigfootsociety@gmail.comWant to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:01:51 And now let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society, you've got the privilege of talking to a good friend Josh again. You may recognize Josh's voice. he's been on a few episodes and actually it'll be a total of three after it comes out so he's been on there's the hatcher pass Alaska episode I believe Westland Oregon and Josh was in attendance at the Sasquatch Summer Festival in Oak Ridge, Oregon this summer so we were able to hang out at the booth there and was able to do a mini interview with him that was in a compilation episode that came out on August 29th of this year. So, Josh, it's a pleasure to talk to you again. How's it going up there?
Starting point is 00:02:43 Oh, it's great. It's great. It's like a lot of, just a lot of activity going on. It's been like, you know, ups and downs and all that stuff. But it's been pretty good. Everything's really mellow here. Yeah. So far, so good.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Absolutely. You're out in Oregon still, right? Yeah, I'm still in Oregon. Out in West Lynn. Lots of, I mean, there's just, there's a lot of activity just in general. And I got so much to cover. I've made a bullet list. Before you get into it, did I tell you about the person who came up to my booth when you weren't around?
Starting point is 00:03:31 I don't know if I got to tell you this. So this one lady came up and she was like talking about your West Lynn episode. And she's like, you know, it's the weirdest thing because I've actually had stuff happen to me up in, I think it was North Portland where she's like, it's an area people wouldn't think. But, you know, I had stuff happen in that area. So I get what he's talking about, you know, places where you might not think it's still going on. So I thought that was kind of cool, but you weren't around at the time. So, oh, yeah, but yeah, but yeah, that's the thing. It's like the whole, this whole area, it's like an interlocking, like,
Starting point is 00:04:13 corridors of, like, forested areas and, like, you know, it seems like they're highly, like, just adaptable to, like, whatever environment. And they just, they'll still be able to find food, uh, where they need to. and some of the young would grow up, and they only know that kind of food. And what I've learned is, like, I've been leaving nuts out for them recently just to sort of smooth things over and all that.
Starting point is 00:04:43 But I put out a fish, and they were like, they didn't want to eat it, and I buried it in the garden, and after it rotted for a few days, and that's when they dug it up and started eating down it. But they didn't want to touch fish, But I know in Alaska, they eat fish.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And there's, there's, there's videos out there where they're like in the creeks looking for fish or whatever. But it's, it's interesting that, like, you talk to people like, what's the name of that orchard? It's, uh, um, woodburn, but um, Sherwood. Uh, there's an orchard and it's Sherwood. just a you pick orchard and like I went out there and they had clearly had like a family of Sasquatch on the property and you just chat them up and you find out that like a lot of a lot of the ranchers and a lot of like the people around here there are encounters and um it it's it's interesting it's like like some people know a lot of people don't still but it's the only way to
Starting point is 00:05:58 sort of get the conversation rolling is just you got to talk about it got to bang the drum so josh so you're saying that you went to that area and um you you were talking to the people that owned that orchard and they were like yeah we got them around here or yeah they they had uh a family of satchquatch moved on to their property and like they alluded to like they they would just come and eat the apples and whatnot every night and they just do their thing. They'd learn to like sort of live with them. And it, they had one, the orchard was well manicured, well taken care of. You could tell it's clean.
Starting point is 00:06:42 They wanted it to look good for customers. But then there was this patch where it was like weedy. And like they like took a couple of passes with the lawnmower and they didn't want to do any more. And all the trees were scraggly and like the bark was. healed and like you could hear the whoops coming from them like the rocks clacking and like like the activity going on that you would hear with like big foot and like this is just me hanging out just looking at the apples we just picked in the in just their little parking area and I'm like looking over and I just I just like chatted them up like made a joke about keeping the big foot
Starting point is 00:07:21 off my apple tree and then like it just snowballed from there and like you just sort of segue into it but like according to her people in the know say that they've been like coming in for like the past like 20 years like into the closer encroaching
Starting point is 00:07:40 in on the cities more but you know who knows maybe they've just noticed it but maybe they've always just been I assume they've always just been here and like the all the developments that have happened have like encroached on their territory
Starting point is 00:07:56 because it just seems like they they're just sort of comfortable where they're at and I'm like you couldn't you wouldn't think they need that much but all they really need is like a good bush and some water and some like bugs or nuts or something and they're set
Starting point is 00:08:13 and yeah they just come out do the big hunting at night but like all they really need is water water in like a spot to hide and there's a lot of it you know, so it is interesting. Is that pretty close to West Lynn, the same area? Same general area.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I would say it's like headed more towards the coast, but it's like 30 minutes away, like a 30-minute drive or so. Like it's still part of the same sort of sprawl, like interlocking sprawl. So it's like it's just on the other side of like, Tigered, I think just South of Tigered. So not too far at all. Like I can pick side streets and get there. But they've had them on the property, according to them for like 11.
Starting point is 00:09:14 At the time, it was like 11 years. So probably like 13, 14 years now of them dealing with the, just the, the Sasquatchewatchewatchewatchew. sort of coexisting with them. That is really, really interesting, Josh. I might have to look into that. Hmm. It's just crazy.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I mean, it would be worthwhile. Yeah. It would be worthwhile to go pick some apples and, like, as like your cover, but then, like, check out the big foot right there. Hey, I'm just going to go take a leak or something. And it's kind of like, you know, like two birds with one stone. You get a great, great bunch of apples to make a pie or whatever. And then you get some bigfoot interaction as well, which is, I mean, that's, that's solid.
Starting point is 00:10:07 That's a solid day out for me. I mean, that would be a good thing. You know, the Oregon Sasquatch tour, you get like the best, like, this orchard and that orchard and like this place and that park, you know. be a tour guide. After spending some time out in Oak Ridge, it's stories like this, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:31 it's like, yeah, no question. I mean, after experiencing stuff in that, in Oak Ridge, whereas, like, there's stuff going on so close to the town.
Starting point is 00:10:43 It's like, yeah, the Pacific Northwest is crazy. I mean, like, any big foot person knows that, but once you start experiencing it for yourself,
Starting point is 00:10:52 out there. It's like, it's a whole different, whole different story. And you, you had, um, you had some, some other stuff, uh, happen out there in Oakridge that you didn't get to share, uh, on the, uh, the episode that, that came out about, uh, maybe about a month or so ago. Oh, yeah. I, I should just, you know, jump into that. The, um, the, uh, essentially, I had talked to Dwayne. He was on previous episodes with the Oak Ridge stuff and like he was at the festival
Starting point is 00:11:30 and I got to chat him up and like just listening to his stories and like him describing like he was looking at Oak Ridge like the ridge line that was facing across the river from the park like I was looking at it. Like it was like he
Starting point is 00:11:48 he could hear hear them like swinging through the trees and like moving around and like just like I could and as the sun was setting you could you could really like see the twinkling eyes and the juveniles and like the adults trying to just sort of like heard them in as like the as like the wildfires are just raging and what Dwayne said is like they're they're going to be really geeked up because of the all the smoke and the fire so they're going to be really. active and really aggravated, so be careful and all that stuff. And I was like, yeah, yeah, sure,
Starting point is 00:12:24 sure. But, like, you could see it. Like, it's, and like, it was, like, so apparent to most of the people there, they're, oh, oh, yeah, Bigfoot. Like, it became, like, super casual, like, instead of, like, this was an incredible moment where you
Starting point is 00:12:40 should be just, like, taking it in and everybody's like, yeah, Bigfoot. You know, just, like, super, almost taking it for granted, like, what we were experiencing. But, What Dwayne had told me, he was like at that park, he had had a lot of run-ins just at the little campground there. And he says there was a male on one side. So I go and where my, actually where my tent was like essentially set up.
Starting point is 00:13:16 But I go down there and I decide to just, there's like a little bridge. I crossed the bridge. And I was like, once I enter the woods, my ears are like on. I'm like listening and I'm like, I got my feathers out. I got my peripheral vision. It's like heightened awareness. So I just like slowly, quietly like walk up to, to the forest, the park and just start walking in. I didn't get more than like 20 feet before I heard like about three juveniles starting to like.
Starting point is 00:13:51 follow me in like maybe like 30 feet off of the trail so i knew that this that was the spot so then i saw that there was a rock outcropping that was like just next to the bridge so i backtracked to the outcroping i just stood out there on that rock outcropping and i just stood there and looked in their general direction and then i heard another one come up it was like swinging the trees up on the tree line it was knocking rock down the cliff and i looked up that at it. I could just, I could hear the sound. I couldn't see them, but I could hear them, and they were moving in close.
Starting point is 00:14:27 And just let them see me. And then I gave a little, you know, a turn just so they could see who I was and let them know that I know about them. And then I was letting them just see me. And I think it's like a courtesy that they, they like to do. You just let them see you. And they'll, they'll do the same for you. They might be from, like, a distance where, like, next to a tree and a shadow,
Starting point is 00:14:49 but they'll let you see that. them like the Vikings would do, you know. It's probably related. You never know. But I did that. And it was, it was fine, you know. And that night, I like passed out and all that jazz. Or I was about to go to bed and I was in the tent. And I'm like sitting in the tent and I hear like the big male come out. just, just, but, that, that, thud. And he snips me, snips my tent. I can hear him. I'm so, like, close.
Starting point is 00:15:26 And, like, it's just, like, uncomfortable. I was like, oh, I don't like this. And, like, then I hear him, like, after he's done sniffing at my tent, he starts, like, mowing around in the grass, looking for bugs or whatever. And then finally he starts hucking rocks into the, into the creek looking,
Starting point is 00:15:43 I'm assuming for cry dads or something. And, like, I was like, okay, I unzip the tent. and I just walked to the truck. I sit in the truck. And like, as soon as I sit down, I'm facing the ridge line. And you get the, I got that feeling like somebody was watching me. And so I just like instinctively look, as we all would do in that situation.
Starting point is 00:16:09 You do it at the grocery store or whatever. You just look over at somebody and they, like, they instinctively look at you. I did the same thing, except this time it was a female and she was up in the tree. and her eyes lit up and there was about three little juveniles like hugging this tree and so suddenly I had the guy that knew who they were and I knew where they were even though they were cloaked I suddenly became a threat and it was like like I was trying to cut stir up anything else I was just trying to like go to sleep in my truck you know and just have a little like cut it off for the night I'm not causing any trouble and like
Starting point is 00:16:50 like I stepped in it. So I immediately like maybe like a couple seconds, like right then and there, she lights up her eyes and then she apes swings through the tree line. Just like her eyes are just like like an orb just like flickering through the tree line, like a straight line. She goes or maybe 100 feet stops. And then like a couple of seconds later, the male is like his eyes. are lit up and he is like darting back towards towards the tent and then I lose side of them.
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Starting point is 00:21:16 from the other parking lot, much bigger one, more open. like parking area, uh, and it's like not just like a couple of things. I'm talking like, a clean like 75 to 100 like sets of eyes and they were like cloaking in and out. You could see the light as like they, they went gray and like had a flash of light and then just little arms would like swing in and like climb up into the trees and they're getting with the hippie tops of these, these, uh, dug furs and, uh, I'm guessing there's some of them or Ponderoses or something, but, uh, just like a hundred, a hundred little sets of eyes. And they're all like clustered up. So all of a sudden, and they're like,
Starting point is 00:22:07 stop and like looking at me, right? So I'm just like on the side of the parking lot next to, like the venue. Everybody else is inside, watching. like one of the new documentaries that one of the researchers had coming out. And it's just sort of me, just like, was looking up at this, just experiencing this. You got a blood red sun as it's setting, smokes in the air, like bright flashing eyes, like twinkling. And like I pull out like a military, you know, those military flashlights,
Starting point is 00:22:46 those big, crazy bright ones. I flash them right at the top of the tree line just to give them a couple of blinks just to see what would happen. And they all go black. They all shut their eyes and they stop. And then at that moment, I see like a smoky, like figure, like come out of cloak, jump from one tree that was directly behind the stage overlooking the venue. apparently the big male had been up the tree like casing me like keeping an eye on me I'm guessing probably through the whole event
Starting point is 00:23:25 just like he was like my chaperone if you will but like he hopped to the next tree this little maple and scaled down it and I could see him just like his arms and stuff just like coming in and out of cloak and then at the very top of the fence I got to see his eyes and they were like big black eyes
Starting point is 00:23:48 but I could still see into the pupils of his eyes because he's discoloration of some of the the his iris and stuff and like it had like a silvery little ring just at the inner part of the pupil but he was just like looking at me directly and we're both locked eyes and it was it was just like just like an intense moment where I knew I'd like messed up and so I was like don't freak out just let him see you just look at him he's letting me know not to do that again without like causing a seat so I'm like okay understood
Starting point is 00:24:42 And then he like hops down. I can see his like the figure as he slides down into like the river bank and starts moving towards like his side of the river over by my camp. So I'm like, I'm thinking, great. Now I got to deal with this guy. So towards the end of the evening after everybody was like kind of like bedding down, I hit towards my camp. It's super dark. and like I decided I got to pack up all my food and just get it out of the camp and put it in my truck and so I did that and on my way back I could I could tell that he was like right on me just right on me at the embankment it was super pitch I couldn't see the river it was sort of blacked out and you could just feel you know you could just feel when they're there and they're watching And it was that moment.
Starting point is 00:25:41 And so I just decided to like make a peace offering, make sure I don't just disappear in the middle of this festival. So I just pull out pecans and like a couple of apples. And I just like just take a big old wad of pecans and I throw it down the little trail that where in the black sort of shadowy spot, I like throw like let the apples roll down. You hear them roll down. heard them like hit the dirt and I can hear him like just start like snacking on those pecanes and it was guess he liked them because at that point I ended up um you know saying goodnight all right and I go to the truck and instead of facing it towards the towards the uh but where I was parked before I parked in the opposite direction so I wasn't facing the female with
Starting point is 00:26:37 the little kids I was just going to be like facing away facing the highway essentially the parking lot and like just sort of like cut it off and not get in too much trouble and like because I gave him those nuts I guess he he decided to just show himself to me and so like about one one in one 30 in the morning I like sort of wake up and I see him he just like or actually I don't see him I hear him first at first I hear it like what I think is him it's just a cat. It's like a stray cat wandering around. Like a few people saw it.
Starting point is 00:27:19 But this cat was wandering around the area. And I was like, okay, I guess he's gone. So I ended up I ended up listening and I could still hear him
Starting point is 00:27:40 sneaking up behind each tree. So he was opposite side over by Duane. Actually by Duane's like little camp. I'm like moving from tree to tree. And then he slinked up to the bush right in front of my truck. And then he peeks his head out, comes out of cloak just for a second, long enough for me to see him like squinting at me. And he goes back behind the bush. And then he peeks back. He did about three times. And I actually got to see his face. And it was like, it pretty clear. I could, I could make out his face. But the thing is, it's like, They look just like you and me.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Like they're like, they look like normal people, but then they have like features that are like, you know, just the eye sockets are huge, right? His eyes were like, all the other Bigfoot I'd seen, like the eyes were like kind of protruding a little bit because they're so big. His were set back in his head, like recessed in his head. And like, like, oh, his features like a typical.
Starting point is 00:28:49 like a, you know, like a, I want to say like an Irish-looking guy, but his eyes were huge and, like, really just black, but they weren't like slanted in any sort of way. They're just sort of like straight across. Like the normally when you see like human eye, there's like an upturn or a downturn and then there's some people that are just like right across the middle. His eyes were like that. But like, huge. And there was like a slight wrinkle at the, at the bridge of the nose. And other than that, it was just like, like, just a, just like a regular looking guy with like big, like flat lip or like, like, like, thin lips and all that. But like he had like, I noticed he had like, his, his hair was really short. And I literally confirmed my theories about them, the shedding. And, um, like, get into that more, but like that's what I saw. That was like the big thing from Oak Ridge. That's incredible. Were other people, well, I guess it sounded like most everyone was over by where the documentary is playing, but do you think other people may have experienced anything
Starting point is 00:30:09 like that over there as well? Or the, okay, so the ladies that were camping next to me, A couple of special ed teachers, they got to hear, like, the rocks being thrown into the river because it was making such a funny sound. It was because, like, the bubbles were, like, reverberating and it was making, like, a, like, a real funny sound because the way the water was going, the speed of the water,
Starting point is 00:30:38 and then, like, I'm guessing the size of the rocks were just, like, creating such a cavity when they hit the water that you could just, here like a dooo like all the way to the bottom and like they were hearing that and then some other ladies like in the other camp on the other side I mean had heard like they told me like the next morning that something something got the cat that had been wandering around the stray cat oh wow yeah so my guess is after he's done with me he went and ate a cat but but it's interesting when you see this stuff and then like have like the little the little details like get confirmed like the how the rock sounded and like the the stray cat is like flanking around I think I was the only one had noticed it like other than one when it was like in the actual like area where they're showing the videos but that was like I was like I was like it.
Starting point is 00:31:45 It was nice because, like, it wasn't like me just having, like, you know, waking up from heavy sleep or something and, like, just, like, hallucinating or something. But, yeah, it's interesting, but, like, no, no, not to me, visuals. Some of the documentary people from, what's that? Flash of Beauty team. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Yeah. A couple of them, they asked me, like, what was going on on where I was when I, when I had the encounter the first night? And I, like, you just told them it's like, I was, I was told them where the truck was facing and I, like, pointed to, like, the general area. And I told them, just look for the flashing eyes. You'll see it. And then they just stood there for a second. We all stood there by the bench looking across the river. and there it was, like the three little juveniles,
Starting point is 00:32:50 and then like a flash of the female, then she was gone, and then there was like, there was like actually like five or six more littler ones, like real tiny ones just farther back in, but they're all kind of in the same area, and there was just like a lot of little babies just all over that hillside, and they were like finally getting to see something,
Starting point is 00:33:13 like think of the flashing eyes. I'm like, well, they're like, oh my gosh, that too. And they were getting excited. And it was like, it was nice to like have somebody like acknowledge. And then like let me like show them and then like something happened, you know. It's like one thing when you tell somebody, but it's another thing when you can bring them to the spot. And like it just like the magic can happen for you just enough for them to like get excited. It felt really good.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Yeah. That is one of the cool things about about that festival where, you know, you can go to like a Bigfoot Conference or festival, but, or let's say a Bigfoot conference, but it might be like downtown in the middle of the city. But like this one is very unique because it's in a park on the side of a river and across the bridge of that river. I know I've said this before, but is a literal, like it's a literal wilderness of Oak Ridge and it's where most of the town. people when I was talking to people before I got there like that's where a lot of their sightings actually take place in Oak Ridge is
Starting point is 00:34:22 across that bridge on the other side so it all lines up man but it's very it's a very unique thing where you can experience that festival but you also are so close to potential area for for experiencing some things as well it's very cool
Starting point is 00:34:39 yeah it's like it's that it's that line between like being a like believing and knowing and like you you know
Starting point is 00:34:51 like you like I heard I got to listen to your little experience with the with the scream yeah like you
Starting point is 00:34:58 you interviewed enough people and you believed and like you had a couple of little experiences but when you had that scream there's that knowing yeah
Starting point is 00:35:10 it uh it I came back from Oregon, a totally different person. It's very weird. It's hard to explain, but I think that might be part of it. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Ashlyn Harris from Wide Open with Ashland Harris. All right, quick switch, because I want to tell you about one of our favorite sponsors, vital proteins. But I can't really talk about vital proteins without talking about collagen first. So, did you, know that collagen makes up one-third of all the protein in your body. That's a lot of collagen.
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Starting point is 00:40:04 Yeah, yeah, the doctors still have no idea, but it's, it's out of there no matter what it was. So, who knows? Wow, yeah, it's a, man, some very interesting things that happened around that festival. And I'm actually, I want to say tomorrow, I am interviewing another gentleman who, I guess, so here's the thing about this festival. There were like all these groups of people that were doing things around the area at the same time and having these like weird things happen related to Bigfoot. So there's really, yeah, there's, man, it's coming out.
Starting point is 00:40:47 There's multiple storylines. Well, I guess you could call them storylines that were happening around the same time during this festival. I'm going to talk to Bill tomorrow, and his will probably be coming out pretty quick after this episode gets released in the future. But are you planning on coming back in 2025, you think? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, that's cool. I am definitely going to be there. if next year if something is going down over there hopefully i can i can be aware enough that i'll i'll
Starting point is 00:41:36 check it out next year as well oh yeah that'd be pretty cool but um yeah so you mentioned you had some some other things uh that you you had uh going on as as well josh oh man yeah the um Yeah, I need to talk about Coltis Lake. I need to get that out there. Absolutely, absolutely. This summer, we ended up going on a camping trip out to, in approximately the same kind of area. It's like, it's like in that mountain range we're at where Oak Ridge was, but a little farther down the road and like more inland. So it's like kind of halfway to do.
Starting point is 00:42:26 to bend. But it's a little lake called Coltis Lake. And, you know, beautiful little, like, campground, real spacious, like a lot of Elbaugh room between each campground. I highly recommend it. If you're a big footer, I totally recommend it. But if you just like a good, like, experience with the family in terms of like having a nice big spacious like lot to camp on it's totally it's it's right on the money they have boat rentals and all that stuff and like it it's it's kind of amazing in a certain way um but when i got there it was like fourth of july it was like the weekend before fourth of july and um so everybody was like just rip-r-rarned just going crazy and like they were like laughing and drinking and like there
Starting point is 00:43:28 was multiple parties multiple languages like people it was like it was fourth of july season you know and like you know it's it's rowdy like my my wife and daughter like starting to bed down and storing time and all that stuff and like i decide i'm just going to stay up a little bit and just like, so I would like see, see what's going on. Like, I, like, I'd like to, if I'm going to go to sleep, I'd like to see what, what's out there and, like, what's
Starting point is 00:44:02 like, like, sneak it around. Because that's when, like, when the critters come out is at night, mostly. And I just wanted to, you know, make sure there wasn't too much, like, Bigfoot activity, and there's plenty of distractions, so I didn't want to be, like,
Starting point is 00:44:20 advertising that I knew about them. But, you know, every time I do that, I end up making it worse, but that's exactly what happened here. Because, you know, I had just got that flashlight that I mentioned in like the previously, just a few minutes ago. And so I wanted to just like feel how I could make it beam up into the sky. I was just, you know, just like playing with it for a second, like turning it on for the first time,
Starting point is 00:44:51 really just like cutting loose. and then like, shine to see how far across the lake I could shine it. But what that did was like, it, uh, I think I probably looked like a big foot or something, like shining my eyes,
Starting point is 00:45:05 demon my eyeballs. And then one of them came to, like, check me out, like immediately. It was like, I could hear the crackle in the branches. And there was like a couple in the camp next to me.
Starting point is 00:45:16 And like they're like an old, like an outdoorsman type. and I think he knew what was going on, but I think he was just trying to have a good time with his wife and they were, he wasn't about to like just point it out, but I could, I could tell he was tracking it too, but that thing was like crackling through the dry branches. It starts to get really dry when you get over the mountains and get closer to bend. It starts turning into high desert. And so we're in that like transition down. zone and like all the branches are super dry and so when they when they run around or they're moving around through the trees it's it's super obvious and like and like they can't really hide themselves very well but people are are people and they got their own lives and they don't pay attention to anything even when they're out in the woods and like i uh caught a like i actually got off the flashlight and I was just standing there in the dark for a second just waiting to see what
Starting point is 00:46:32 what was around and um all of a sudden I just see like a quarter like an arm a chest and like half of like the the midsection and like the head like come out of cloak hanging from like the tree that was in my campground right above the fire pit maybe like 15 20 feet from me, come out of cloak and like go up into the tree like he moved into the tree. I saw him and then I could
Starting point is 00:47:08 I was trying the flashlight up there just to sort of like spook him off maybe. I was hoping that would work but that doesn't work. Just for the record that doesn't work. But he just stayed up there and then he moved to the other tree
Starting point is 00:47:27 and he had crackling as he moved up And he just sort of hung up there. And you could hear the timber just sort of like waning a little bit and crackling in the core. Like, just like, you know. And like just the little twigs and branches as he's like moving up, trying to get into the comfortable position and just wait for me to go back inside. And the whole time. So I just decided, you know what?
Starting point is 00:47:53 I'm just going to go inside. And my daughter was already asleep. for uh because it was a big day and like story time was done and she was out cold it was just my wife and i get in there and i listen and i told her what i just saw and she's she's she was still on the fence at that time about all this stuff and she didn't want to sort of address it but i was like forcing forcing her to like deal with it because i wasn't about to just like uh no go back in the big foot closet with you.
Starting point is 00:48:27 I just was like telling her point blank. Like I just saw something out there and she says well then you just need to stop staying up so late and you need to go sleep. And I said
Starting point is 00:48:42 okay, I will. But then as as I'm laying there, you can hear, I got to hear but you can still hear the people's still rowdy and over them you got to hear like just like identical to the Sierra sounds
Starting point is 00:48:59 so like two of them were two Bigfoot were arguing in the background and I could like it was like the and then it was like that samurai talk but over over the people like
Starting point is 00:49:13 screaming and yelling and so you couldn't if you don't know what it is you probably wouldn't have caught it but it was like super loud and I told my wife so did you hear that and she's i go that's that's big for talk and she like listens she's her eyes get big she goes uh
Starting point is 00:49:33 uh you know it's not a drug people i was like nobody speaks that language i said and um yeah and like you just hear it like them like go bantering back and forth and like either they were talking to each other or talking the guy the one big foot that was in my camp looking at me
Starting point is 00:49:56 I'm like sort of messing around they probably saw me beam the light and like they're already like geeked up from like all the people being rowdy and loud but I beamed the light and he was checking it out and they're probably like what is it who is you know like just trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:50:13 what's going on because it was like campers and humans and it's going to be the same story over and over again that's nothing new but when it's something out of the ordinary, they're going to get curious and they're going to investigate. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:50:28 they, in some ways, like you don't know what they're saying, but you know what, basically what's, what's going on. They're just certain, like, idiosacratic,
Starting point is 00:50:38 like things that they do, that we do. You just sort of get the gist of what's going on, like, without, like, projecting too much, you know, but, uh, you just sort of,
Starting point is 00:50:50 get the vibe of like them just wanting to know and like arguing back and forth and then there was that so my wife got to hear this essentially the Sierra sounds she cared less she wanted to go to sleep
Starting point is 00:51:08 but I was like I was just like sitting there on my knees and just lit in the tank going oh my gosh and I finally I finally laid down and like tried to sleep and all that. And the next night, we bed down.
Starting point is 00:51:31 This time I go straight to bed. I don't want to mess with anything. And like once everybody was like down, it was a lot quieter. Everybody was down. I had to go to the bathroom. And a few people left. and so there was like a bunch of empty campgrounds. And I had to go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:51:54 I had to walk through with my little lantern. And I could hear him crackling in the trees, watching this, he's coming. But I'm looking straight at him. And I'm just like, I stop, just to acknowledge them. And then I go into the bathroom. I come back. I do the same way.
Starting point is 00:52:11 And I can hear him like following me a little more, but looking at me. And so then I go back to my tent. And it's like nothing else happens. But I think it was the following night is when like the action happened. Some new people come in on either side of us and they're talking a lot and they're making noise. And like after most people have bedded down and the camp girl got pretty quiet, I could hear the crackling and then the sound of them like clumping down, clumping down out.
Starting point is 00:52:52 out of the trees. Like they landed there in camp and they all made a bee line for the tent. And there was like, I think three or four of them just on. It was like at least like three of them like in in the camp. The female like I heard them and I heard like the communication, the female like gives like a like a tonal like hum sound so. So you're like, like, and he was like, he gave like a long, like, with like three like rattily clicks in there like click, click, click, click with a snap pop at the end. And then all of a sudden, I just hear a stomps, stomps, stomped,
Starting point is 00:53:48 like a crinkly stomp as he's like on my tarp just like stomping it. And then then all of a sudden it sounds like a little like mouse or something. It's by my tent. I'll get confused for a second. I'm like, oh man, what's, wait, what's going on? Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Ashland Harris from Wide Open with Ashland Harris. All right, quick switch.
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Starting point is 00:58:19 And then he starts filling up the corner of my tent. And then all of a sudden he starts, like, reaching and grabbing and snatching at the, at the bugs at the top of the tent. We had left the lamp on for my daughter. She's still afraid of the dark. And so we just, he had, like, attracted all the bugs under a rainfly. And so, like, you just hear, like, the sound of, like, you know, someone, like, rubbing the tent and, like, you,
Starting point is 00:58:49 you know, that wippy, rippy sound that like the tents make when they're like rubbing together. But it was just like, just me, my wife's passed out, the daughter's passed out. And like, just me and my pounding heart as I'm listening to all this stuff because I knew they'd just made a bee line. It was, I heard one of them like lifting up and like pushing stuff around on the on the table and like messing with the totes. and it was a little intense because like as soon as he started like taking stuff I could hear him like chomping like his huge teeth and like his massive jaw and like the fangs inside his mouth and everything was clacking around but like it was like ch ch ch chump chomp chomp chomp like just intense like horse teeth like just just chomping down and he's just like
Starting point is 00:59:48 eating all the bugs out of the rainfly and I'm like sit up I'm like oh my gosh and then like when I sat up the female like flashed her eye like one of her eyes at me deemed it through the tent kind of like flashlight just to let me let me know that they were there and not to come out and I was like oh my gosh my heart's pounding so i laying back and i'm just listening to like these like chattering like monster teeth just like clacking around the fangs are clapping against each other and it was so intense it's so terrifying and like i i wasn't sure where this was headed
Starting point is 01:00:30 you know it was like is he after he runs out of bugs is he gonna work on us like like like because like it's clearly they know i know and i'm interesting to that them in some sort of way, but I don't know their temperament, if they're like crazy or not, or if they're super aggressive, but what they were doing was super aggressive because normally they'll keep their distance and like they like to have a tree or something between them, but they, they were like just like made the bee line. As soon as I went inside, they made the B line. And, uh, yeah, that was, that was enough for me. I was like, I didn't want to like push it any farther and I sort of convinced my wife that we need to just pack up and go.
Starting point is 01:01:16 We still had another night left on our reservation. I wasn't about to hang out for the rest of it and she was sort of bummed about it. But we packed up and finally left and like that was cultus lake. Coltis Lake. Did you look around, notice anything weird or out of the ordinary the next morning? like any broken sticks or footprints or anything weird like that around your tent site?
Starting point is 01:01:53 No, there was no prints. I couldn't see any prints, but I did see chewed branches like the when they chew the bark, the chew the inner bark, you can see that usually the fain marks. I could see the fang marks
Starting point is 01:02:08 of them chewing the stripped branches. everywhere and I saw this weird stump in the middle of the in the middle of the camp and it looked like it had a rock in it and I actually found a rock that was down on the beach. It looked like it was
Starting point is 01:02:27 like a grinding stone or something or hammerstone somebody's doing it to like grind stuff with and I think it was probably their their cracking stone that they used and they probably used it in that spot But, like, I put it in there, and it fit like a glove. Like, it had been pounded into that stump, like, over a long period of time. Like, this was an old dead stump.
Starting point is 01:02:51 But, like, it was clearly that had been worked, and it was, like, chisel marks, and it was, like, smooth in some parts. But, like, it had been, like, cracked with a rock, like, hundreds of times. And in this one spot on this stump. And it was so weird. Like, because, like, I was like, oh, I could just put it here. but then I put it there just to like fill my daughter, like, and tell her about
Starting point is 01:03:16 like Native Americans and like all that stuff and like how they would grind like things like seeds and stuff and give her a history lesson and just like make them aware of nature and like how to use things and stuff. But then like, but as I placed it in that stump, it just like fits so perfectly and it was the shape of the rock. and I think it was just their their little hammerstone that they used to
Starting point is 01:03:44 like crack the nuts, whatever nuts they found out there. But I did notice that like the surrounding vegetation had been trampled pretty well. Like there's still like underbrush in a lot of the forests in that area. But like this section, like you could see that the trees were pushed over. And like there was a lot of like trees that were stripped of their
Starting point is 01:04:09 park and then like you would see like where there should be like underbrush it's like all like like trampled vegetation like branches stripped of their leaves and like clearly they'd been like feeding in there but like some these kids found what was a little fort made out of like giant logs and they said some guys were working on it like what guys were working on it but they didn't want to hang out and talk to me about this little fort, but I was looking at it. It was lined with like cedar fons and like, like, it looked like a big foot nest. And like, like, what I've noticed about like in here and like just in the West Lynn in general, like if the kids see one of these little structures, they think it's just a regular fort and they start
Starting point is 01:05:05 like building on top of it and playing in them and stuff. and like but you can always tell when kids do it and like it's stuff's out of place and it's just like sort of sort of like halfway finished but when a big foot's doing it it's complete and there's like a bed in there to sleep on and you could definitely like live in there or like get out of the rain uh and that's what this little this little fort had it was like it had a bed inside it was right next to the water it was underneath a clump of trees. The logs were massive. There was like, a little big for a camping trip for somebody to say,
Starting point is 01:05:53 hey, let's build a fort out of these gigantic logs for no reason. Instead of like just some bathing on the beach and kayaking, you know. It was like maybe some guy, like maybe I'm thinking like these kids found a, a little, little hut. And, uh, I'm like, they just saw these guys like putting it together because they, they also found it and thought it was neat and they were just in there, dinking around,
Starting point is 01:06:23 probably thought someone else did it. It's always like somebody else, like, too big of them, but nobody's like, no, you never like meet the original. Oh, yeah, no, that was me. I did that. It's always like a second, second, oh, yeah, I know some, some other guy. someone else and it's never so i had a little yeah there was that little fort there was at the very edge of the lake in our campground at the little stump the i went and checked the table to see if they
Starting point is 01:06:55 had messed with anything and everything was like slid back into place but i could hear them like mess with it like trying to lift open totes and stuff but then they stopped and i couldn't find a single footprint like but i did be I did hear, what I did find was, at first thing in the morning when I came out, I found, like, some of the bug carcasses as they were, like, sliced and a half, looked like somebody cut it up with scissors. So it was, like, razor sharp cuts.
Starting point is 01:07:30 So, like, the teeth are razor sharp meant for, like, I'm guessing, like, just, like, cutting, tearing, like, meat, you know? and like it meant for like eating deer or whatnot you know just like meat eaters
Starting point is 01:07:47 but like the the cuts on the wings were like like angular and just it was crazy it was like super like like something hit it with like
Starting point is 01:07:57 a little like um exacto knife or something like just clean cuts not smush too much just like clean sharp cuts on some yellow jackets and
Starting point is 01:08:07 and mom and stuff. It was kind of crazy. But that's about all I saw for like, like anything left behind. That's, that's really interesting. So you're saying multiple kinds, multiple different types of bugs were, were found cut apart, not just like cicadas or all one kind. No, no. There's all sorts of difference.
Starting point is 01:08:32 So what, because like the, it's high desert, there's a lot less water. and what's been what I noticed was like along the shoreline there's a point where the water lapped up but it didn't go any farther and that's you'd see like just a line of bugs all the bugs in the area
Starting point is 01:08:51 were just like like thousands of bugs at the water point just coming and get a drink of water it would be bees and hornets and wasps and like moths and butterflies and ants and like beetles and just all sorts of beetles like species i've never seen before you know um steam
Starting point is 01:09:15 bugs all the just everything just ants too just all along this one waterline so i'm thinking they just for the most part probably just live off of uh the bugs and nuts or something and like like tree bark get their water i mean the food sources there, the water's there, the shelter's there, the shelter is there. It's just interesting because each, each biome has this own, like, you know, niche, like, food sources. Oh, absolutely, yeah. Yeah, that is a good point. There's a thought I had. I want to make sure I don't forget it. You've mentioned a few times where you've seen Bigfoot coming in and out of cloak or cloaking.
Starting point is 01:10:15 When you have them, let's say they're in full cloak, what are the main things that you notice to let you know that, hey, there's something there. It's just in cloaked mode. What are the things that tip you off? normally you you hear them coming stepping around they aren't they aren't breathing too heavy like they'll hold your breath but like if they want to move or anything like that
Starting point is 01:10:47 usually you might see just the slightest parallax like just a little bit of like just a little distortion but not a lot like no it's like pretty much crystal clear but when they move there's just the slightest little razor thin sharp line
Starting point is 01:11:08 and you can usually make out their sunlight if they move just a little bit the front end will will be like either white or you'll see like a black shadowy line but one or the other like I think it's
Starting point is 01:11:28 I want to say it's the front side, in the direction of movement, it'll become like gray, almost like a white light. And then on the back side, it'll be like a shadow. It'll be a really like razor, like a little, somebody took a Sharpie. But it looks like a bubble, like a blow bubble. And it just looks like just like a super like glassy silhouette. But it's like super crystal clear. But like sometimes when they're moving fast, that's when like that white light.
Starting point is 01:12:07 I don't think they can like keep up with it. And like it just looks like a glow and then like my head, you might have a little flash of light off of it. But like you'll see like some of that arm and like maybe some of the face or like you'll get a torso. And like you'll just have like maybe a flash or like a couple of like a couple of of frames near as they come out they'll like move and then like just as quick as you're seeing the silhouette it's they go back in the cloak and you can't see them anymore so what what i see is like either they're like it's like a gray smoky look or it's um like they'll put out like a like a black shadow in front of them and you can't see
Starting point is 01:13:01 see anything in the general area or or it's like crystal crystal clear like a bubble with just the slightest hint of like a distortion um but like one of the one of the the speakers there was talking about infrasound and all that stuff and how that effects yeah and i was i was super fascinated by that because i had looked out for it or like didn't really aware of it until like after he said it and then I like started like it was on my radar and then I and like yeah they I uh I actually got this was like this was like night before last or it was like three nights ago um they were my daughter was like well wound up and I was just trying to get her to bed and like, to anybody listening, I have like a family of Bigfoot living behind my house and
Starting point is 01:14:07 like they, we have a routine where I, we go to bed and go upstairs and turn out the lights and there they come spilling out of the woods. So they don't want to interact with us too much and they just want to like sort of stay in their lane. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Ashlyn Harris from Wide Open with Ashton. Ashland Harris. All right, quick switch, because I want to tell you about one of our favorite sponsors, vital proteins. But I can't really talk about vital proteins without talking about collagen first. So, did you know that collagen makes up one-third of all the protein in your body? That's a lot of collagen. But our natural collagen production starts to dip at the age of 30,
Starting point is 01:15:00 give or take a few years. So adding collagen peptides daily feels like a really simple way to support what your body already does. Now, I know you've seen vital proteins, collagen peptides, iconic blue tub around before. It's literally everywhere. I mean, it is one of the most recognized collagen supplements out there. And there's a real reason it's so popular. It supports healthy hair, skin, nails, bones, and joints. Vital proteins has become a part of my daily routine. I mix it into my morning coffee or my smoothie. It's really easy. You can't even taste it, and it fits right into my day so I can feel my best. For me, it's about staying strong and showing up fully every single day. It just fits into my life. I'm betting it will fit into yours too. You can add a
Starting point is 01:15:54 serving to your morning coffee, your tea, smoothies, or oatmeal into whatever you're already having. and it dissolves easily with the neutral taste and no extra steps. Like I said, it fits right into your life. People use it for different reasons, some for beauty benefits, some for joint support, but for me, it's all about building a daily habit I can actually stick to. And that's the key with collagen peptides, consistency. One serving every day to support your hair, skin, nails, bones, and joints. And right now, you can get 20%
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Starting point is 01:17:18 Thanks to Miracle Grow. Join us next time on plant killers. All right, quick quiz for the hiring managers out there. What's worse? Being understaffed or being poorly staffed? Well, that's a trick question, because both are recipes for chaos. Either way, just say to yourself, this is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs.
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Starting point is 01:18:34 And like, before I, they start feeding and I put out nuts for them and all that stuff and it's everything is cool and smooth and like but uh with this infrasound stuff like uh she was she was wound up and she was just taking away too long i think it was like almost like almost 10 30 almost 11 o'clock and she was just going bonkers and i was just trying to get her upstairs and like i could i heard like uh this was what i heard was like uh oh And, like, I felt, I felt them, like, sort of like, and then, like, a second one, and they both, like, I felt it, like, vibrate my, my heart and my chest, like, two, like, sticks sort of stabbing through my chest, like, one, and then from the side, two, just sort of, like, nudge me as, like, get the show on the road, and, like, they just both sort of nudged me, and then that was it. I'm like that low, deep, like, vibrational sound,
Starting point is 01:19:41 but it was like super sharp and focused in one little area. And like my chest was just like rumbling. It was so crazy. And like it's funny. Like I think a lot of their communication revolves around like this humming. They do. I'm going to make sure I'm staying on track. but um oh yeah i can talk about this this is one more points um uh but there's like a low-toned
Starting point is 01:20:17 like hum that the female does uh let me let me let me backtrack a little bit there's what i've what i've noticed like since uh uh in the recently out here is like here in westland is like i was out in the front driveway and i was listening see what's going on And I heard like distinctly like a raspy little babies cry coming from the woods, maybe like 30 feet out. And I don't know if it was being born or if it was like a newborn. But like, it was like a, I know the sound of a crying baby. It's like it's instinctive. You know, you just know it.
Starting point is 01:21:04 And so it was coming from the woods. So I think like the female had another baby. and so the following day I got to hear her I went outside the check on my little garden as I stepped out I was real quiet
Starting point is 01:21:18 and I heard her like just in the bushes on the side of the fence and she's just humming soothing the baby and it was like a like a
Starting point is 01:21:28 like a like just like that and I was like oh my God and I even felt a little sweet good. I was like, oh, baby. But that hum
Starting point is 01:21:49 that they do, it's really interesting and like a tone and like, if they do communicate, it's very rare, like, they don't do it all the time, but when they do, it seems like it's like a and like each
Starting point is 01:22:06 hum has like a meaning for something, right? And they're communicating all sorts of stuff inside of like a date what we would call just like one one like a con like a like a like a vowel sound or something or you know just like one part of a word it's like a whole sentence is being said inside of one home and uh i uh i uh i just it was like it's like there's like the there's like the side of it it's like the terror and like the the carnage and like the the absolute brutality of being a wild man,
Starting point is 01:22:46 but then they have this totally, like, human side to it. It's just, like, magic. And I've learned to just sort of, like, take it as it comes and not get too wrapped up in the fear of, like, what they're doing. Because, like, maybe, like, a lot of stuff when you hear, like, people talking about, they're screaming at each other. it sounded ferocious and maybe it wasn't ferocious and it was just casual conversation and they were just having talking to their cousins across the across the valley and it just sounded intense to us because we just
Starting point is 01:23:29 have very like soft and middle-toned like conversations and like but uh I had a juvenile reveal itself to me and like what was going on and I was I had walked a lot of my activity happens like around my garden and so because it's like right up against the forest there
Starting point is 01:23:54 and I had walked up to check on my garden and it was like 11 o'clock or something in the middle of the day and I just catch a whiff of like fermented pee I'm like oh my gosh what is that
Starting point is 01:24:09 and I'm like I thought maybe I'd like like, you know, I was making some, you know, plant fertilizer with like the weeds, you know. I thought maybe it was my stuff, but it wasn't like when the breeze was coming towards me and I'm blowing that smell away. So it wasn't my stuff. And it was, I stood in the garden. I didn't smell it. And then all of something here, like, a little twig break.
Starting point is 01:24:35 And then, like, I could hear and move a little bit. and like it smell like just rotten pee. I was like, I go, it smells like rotten pee over here. And I just, I just said it out loud to the bushes. And then he just decides to just go, he gets like a long H sound. So like a, and then he goes, and it just sounds like a bear or something.
Starting point is 01:25:07 But like this was long for like, like tone and uh josh have you talked to them uh verbally a lot or is that a thing where that only happens uh rarely it it only happens rarely i like a couple of times like when i first met the the the female when i had stuck my head out to see what was like scooching up to my window because at that point I was still like in sort of like a weird denial state of like
Starting point is 01:25:52 the stuff I experienced in Alaska was just in Alaska and it was fine here but hold on pardon me sorry I verbally said to the female like okay I'm going to sleep
Starting point is 01:26:16 then and she like waddled her head and like she like sat down and like I went to bed. But for the most part, most of the communication is like through like an eye blink or like they just use their eyes or something like that to sort of signal to me. Um, but uh usually it's on it's like an unspoken communication. So you just, you got to sort of go with your gut and what your gut's telling you about what the situation is and try not to like project too much into it because like there is that fear factor of like the big giant like Harry Man is like looking at me and it's like it might not be anything might just be friendly you know and um I made the mistake initially with it with these guys as like assuming the worst and just like eyeballing and just like eyeballing and them and just doing all this aggressive activity just to sort of assert my
Starting point is 01:27:25 dominates and it like sort of snowballed and like created like a situation but it's it's all like stuff down now but for the most part in terms of like communication wise usually I mean the whistle at me and stuff like that
Starting point is 01:27:43 but nothing it's usually just like acknowledging like light up one eye or something and just let me see them. And then, like, they'll just sort of go about their business. Just sort of like, and I was, I'm, I'm right here.
Starting point is 01:28:01 And sort of like, you know, just to be respectful, I guess. And, but like, in terms of communication, you can sometimes hear them. They'll argue with each other. But they'll never, like, communicate directly with me. And that was the first time I, since, like, I saw her where I just,
Starting point is 01:28:21 said something to one of them. And so, but getting back to the bush, like he gave out the tone and then he walked, there's a there's a log along my fence. He walked out onto the log where there was no branches like growing out of it.
Starting point is 01:28:39 And I got to see him and like I was standing six or seven feet from him and he was just like looked at me. And then it was, what was surprising was like he was all black. He was one of the juveniles and I'm pretty sure he's been living off of my my nuts like my handouts for this entire time and like I think I try to leave them stuff and so they'll go get nuts and they'll come out on the roof and I'll watch YouTube videos or something and they'll come up and just like get in the window they'll cloak but uh
Starting point is 01:29:23 yeah there's like there's probably six of them that I've seen and I can get into that part too um but like the communication stuff uh has been mostly just like like i gestures like if they're mad at me it's like a broken twig they'll throw it but for the most part they uh if they're upset they'll push over a tree or something just let me know without like verbally saying anything but we haven't like communicated directly like that was the first time I like just said something it's really interesting
Starting point is 01:30:02 yeah um but after that after he stepped out it was like suddenly they weren't clooked they were like maybe they'll have a little shade on them like a little have that shadow to them and they'll like slink around more
Starting point is 01:30:22 to walk around more, but there's like, like the, the cloaking is pretty much stopped now. And like, I think they're, they're just focused on, like, packing calories for winter now. But last winter, oh, I got to describe this guy. I can't just leave you hanging with that. So the thing about, like, the other Sasquotas I've seen and, like, right about now is, like, they shed their fur. and they start growing the new fur and it's usually probably like an inch inch and a half long by now.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Some of them are still like bald. You know, it's got nothing on them. It's slower growing. But this guy, he had the winter fur and it had kept growing. And so he had like this crazy mop top looking like
Starting point is 01:31:17 Tina Turner. Just crazy long, like wiry hair. chimpanzee, but like sticking out straight. It wasn't laying down. It was like sticking out straight, like, sideways. But just like flared out all around and like black skin, black eyes.
Starting point is 01:31:36 Like all, everything, just totally black like a little black, bigfoot. He looked at me, I looked at him and then he walked into the woods. But after that I started seeing him all over the place because they weren't like cloaked around me during the day. And so when I was putting out nuts, I saw what across the through across the way looking at me. And like he was just trying to hide in plain sight and just sort of
Starting point is 01:32:10 see what I was putting out for the night. You know, it's just kids. It was a juvenile, but like he had already knocked off his favorite branch in the neighbor's like driveway. He knocked it clean off. It was a big branch. And I'm sure they don't know what it is or what knocked down that branch. But like he was in like the one behind the fence like just past that neighbor's driveway. And he was just watching me. And at first I thought it was my neighbor. I was like, why is the neighbor watching me throw out nuts? Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Ashland Harris from Wide Open with Ashland Harris. All right, quick switch. Because I to tell you about one of our favorite sponsors, vital proteins. But I can't really talk about
Starting point is 01:33:06 vital proteins without talking about collagen first. So did you know that collagen makes up one-third of all the protein in your body? That's a lot of collagen. But our natural collagen production starts to dip at the age of 30, give or take a few years. So adding collagen peptides daily feels like a really simple way to support what your body already does. Now, I know you've seen vital proteins, collagen peptides, iconic blue tub around before. It's literally everywhere. I mean, it is one of the most recognized collagen supplements out there. And there's a real reason it's so popular.
Starting point is 01:33:47 It supports healthy hair, skin, nails, bones, and joints. Vital proteins has become a part of my daily routine. I mix it into my morning coffee or my smoothie. It's really easy. you can't even taste it, and it fits right into my day so I can feel my best. For me, it's about staying strong and showing up fully every single day. It just fits into my life. I'm betting it will fit into yours too. You can add a serving to your morning coffee, your tea, smoothies, or oatmeal, into whatever you're already having. And it dissolves easily with the neutral taste and no extra
Starting point is 01:34:27 steps. Like I said, it fits right into your life. People use it for different reasons, some for beauty benefits, some for joint support, but for me, it's all about building a daily habit I can actually stick to. And that's the key with collagen peptides, consistency. One serving every day to support your hair, skin, nails, bones, and joints. And right now, you can get 20% off your next order by going to vital proteins.com and using promo code wide open 20 at checkout. Huge thanks again to our sponsor, Vital Proteins. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
Starting point is 01:35:13 On this episode of plant killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt. What makes bad dirt so bad? The answer? The ingredients. But fear not true crime enthusiasts. This story has a happy ending. Miracle Grow organic raised bed and garden soil.
Starting point is 01:35:30 It's made with quality organic ingredients from upcycled green waste like compost and aged bark. Unlike the other guys who can't say the same, looks like bad dirt's murdering days are over. Thanks to Miracle Grow. Join us next time on plant killers. All right, quick quiz for the hiring managers out there. What's worse? Being understaffed or being poorly staffed? Well, that's a trick question, because both are recipes.
Starting point is 01:35:52 for chaos. Either way, just say to yourself, this is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs. You'll get matched with candidates that meet the skills, certifications, and everything else you're looking for, or go a different way and get no traction. Seriously, sponsored jobs posted directly on Indeed are 95% more likely to report a hire than non-sponsored jobs. It really is a no-brainer. Spend less time searching and more time actually interviewing candidates who check all your boxes. Less stress, less time, more results. When you need the right person to cut through the chaos, this is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs. And listeners of this show will get a $75 sponsored job credit to help your job get the
Starting point is 01:36:32 premium status it deserves at Indeed.com slash podcast. Just go to Indeed.com slash podcast right now. Indeed.com slash podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? This is a job for Indeed sponsored jobs. Do I have to explain what's going on? Hope not. and I realized it was one of them and then like just like a gust it just like slides to the out of sight along the fence line
Starting point is 01:37:08 and then it tries to get away but the problem is it knocked over a bunch of recycling cans so it was super loud and knocked over like the neighbors like recycling and he used here the can roll and all over the side driveway and it was just
Starting point is 01:37:24 a little comical because like he was like trying to be smooth then he just totally biffed it. But, and then, like, my wife had, uh, I finally were, like, at the table. We had just finished, I think we had lunch. And it was like midday. And like, right before she came in, um, into a little dining room, I had the window open. I heard like, like, uh, I think it was two.
Starting point is 01:38:01 solid wraps with like a little switch, a branch on on my fence, like just the fence post. It was like whack, wap. And then I heard like the big female start to move and then like nothing. So then my wife comes in. She sits down. We're chatting and like reading her lunch. And then I like a minute later there's like a juvenile. I got a full shot side view. of a juvenile and like it looks like any other 10 year old kid except for the little bump and I think that might be I might have seen the satchel ridge finally but like the way the neck uh rested on the on the on the skull
Starting point is 01:38:49 it just looked like um like Neanderthal or like a sort of like a had like a big back uh part of the skull most like Europeans, they'll have like a much flatter back part of their skulls, much less pronounced, except for like the Hungarians. But this, it had a really long, like, backside of the skull. Like, just like, just like Neanderthal. It was like a long skull, you know, the heavy brow line. but then the nose was like modern looking
Starting point is 01:39:31 and like the cheeks were full and it just looked like a like a 10 year old kid but he was just going to see what mama was doing but like his skin was like bald there was no hair on him at all it was just just a little bit of a cone on the head
Starting point is 01:39:46 and like maybe like an inch and a half off the base of the head not very big but like just just a little bit poking off the top and like nice said to my wife okay look look look and she's like looking around
Starting point is 01:40:02 she's not seeing anything on a sudden like he just passes by and then she finally catches the backside of him as he's moving through the woods and she finally got to see a little big foot like slinking through the woods going to see what mom wants and like it was like
Starting point is 01:40:20 you know you're just like it's like vindication it just felt so good to just finally have that moment where she was always just like sort of blowing me off about the whole thing and being on the fence
Starting point is 01:40:33 and now she had to be she had to acknowledge it because that was the first time she's she's seen one correct yeah actually seeing one and like and like even still I think I think pride is like
Starting point is 01:40:53 you know he kicks him you know she doesn't want and it's like are you still talking about that I'm just like I can't get over how do I got you to see a big foot? Oh, whatever, mah. But it just felt so good. Like, but just a lot of that stuff has just been like crazy. Like the mood's changed.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Beforehand, I mean, I can get into the other stuff that I need to talk about. I know beforehand the mother had, I kept making eye contact. Like when that night she would go at the beginning of the summer, she would go out, get up into one of the trees and start looking for deer. And like I would be looking out the window and I would like see a light here and there and like try not to look at it and stuff. but they get so mad because they're trying so hard to focus on what they're doing and they got to scan when they're when they're looking for animals they got to scan and we got a methodical and they it's not like us where we're like peripheral and like we just like there it is and just like
Starting point is 01:42:11 we're just like we shoot arrows and throw spears and stuff so we like pinpoint peripherally, like, they have to, like, like, meticulously, like, scan left or right and, like, like, like, like, like, like, it's radar or something, like, just they'll do it real slow and they'll just do it the same way, back and forth until they see something. And, uh, but it's, they get so mad because, like, I, I pop out and I just like immediately pinflink on them.
Starting point is 01:42:47 and look at them and I just sort of break their concentration and like when they get mad they they sort of like give like a little and then like they just shake their head and rage and like like just like like big big head shakes and the rock back and they're shaking their heads and then like the climb down or whatever and then just get mad but this time I did it I didn't know I was doing it, I sort of like fell asleep in the guest bedroom, and it was facing the backside of the house, and I had woke up at about like two in the morning. I just woke up, sat up for a second. The blinds are open, and I'm just like looking, I see, you know, I'm just looking around. I'm sort of tired. I'm like, look over. I see like this glowing light, and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:43:42 it's flickering. I'm like, oh, my gosh. I'm like, I hope something's not on fire. I thought, I thought it was a fire. And so I look over and I'm looking at it harder. And I see the two. The two. This is Ashlyn Harris from Wide Open with Ashland Harris. All right, quick switch, because I want to tell you about one of our favorite sponsors, vital proteins. But I can't really talk about vital proteins without talking about collagen first. So, did you know that collagen makes up one-third of all the protein in your body? That's a lot of collagen. but our natural collagen production starts to dip at the age of 30, give or take a few years. So adding collagen peptides daily feels like a really simple way to support what your body already does. Now I know you've seen vital proteins, collagen peptides, iconic blue tub around before.
Starting point is 01:44:37 It's literally everywhere. I mean, it is one of the most recognized collagen supplements out there. And there's a real reason it's so popular. It supports healthy hair, skin, nails, bones, and joints. Vital Proteins has become a part of my daily routine. I mix it into my morning coffee or my smoothie. It's really easy. You can't even taste it.
Starting point is 01:45:01 And it fits right into my day so I can feel my best. For me, it's about staying strong and showing up fully every single day. It just fits into my life. I'm betting it will fit into yours too. You can add a serving to your morning coffee, your tea, smoothies, or oatmeal into whatever you're already having. And it dissolves easily with the neutral taste and no extra steps. Like I said, it fits right into your life. People use it for different reasons, some for beauty benefits, some for joint support.
Starting point is 01:45:36 But for me, it's all about building a daily habit I can actually stick to. And that's the key with collagen peptides, consistency. one serving every day to support your hair, skin, nails, bones, and joints. And right now, you can get 20% off your next order by going to vitalproteens.com and using promo code wide open 20 at checkout. Huge thanks again to our sponsor, Vital Proteins. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
Starting point is 01:46:13 On this episode of Plant Killers, we'll explain. explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer. Bad dirt. What makes bad dirt so bad? The answer? The ingredients. But fear not, true crime enthusiasts. This story has a happy ending. Miracle Grow organic raised bed and garden soil. It's made with quality organic ingredients from upcycled green waste like compost and aged bark. Unlike the other guys who can't say the same. Looks like bad dirt's murdering days are over. Thanks to Miracle Grow. Join us next time on plant killers. All right, quick quiz for the hiring managers out there.
Starting point is 01:46:46 What's worse? Being understaffed or being poorly staffed? Well, that's a trick question, because both are recipes for chaos. Either way, just say to yourself, this is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs. You'll get matched with candidates that meet the skills, certifications, and everything else you're looking for. Or go a different way and get no traction. Seriously, sponsored jobs posted directly on Indeed are 95% more likely to report a hire than non-scenters. sponsored jobs. It really is a no-brainer. Spend less time searching and more time actually interviewing
Starting point is 01:47:18 candidates who check all your boxes. Less stress, less time, more results. When you need the right person to cut through the chaos, this is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs. And listeners of this show will get a $75 sponsored job credit to help your job get the premium status it deserves at Indeed.com slash podcast. Just go to Indeed.com slash podcast right now. Indeed.com slash podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? This is a job for indeed sponsored jobs. Well, it looks like it starts to like flicker and it looked like it was on a tree. I was like, oh my gosh. I thought it was one of the schools. We're on fire or something. And I was like, oh, am I supposed to, do I need to call 911? I'm looking at it. And then all of a sudden, like I don't see it anymore.
Starting point is 01:48:05 And then I see it again. And it looks like headlights. I'm like, oh, oh, it was just a car, I guess. Car up a tree? No, that doesn't make sense. Oh. it's the female. I better not. I just stop looking. But she was crossing fields, swinging between trees, jumping on roof lines,
Starting point is 01:48:28 making a B-line straight for me. She was so mad. And like, I'm lying down and looking up, and, like, there's, like, red light just, like, flickering on the wall and, like, all the brush between me and her. She was probably,
Starting point is 01:48:44 like a mile out and she was covering ground it was just like you just see it like bobbing as she was like moving straight for me and I look again and it's her and like she she beams me and like my eyes just fill up with like this red red light and like I like I'm starting to feel like the energy like just like bouncing around inside my like eye eyeball like like it felt I felt the heat on my skin like it was different it was different than they're like normal light passive light or you just feel maybe it's reflected this was like they were emitting a light and it was like warm and I could feel the heat in my eyeball and I was starting to see red around everything and it was starting to get intense and it was starting to I was starting to I was starting to only see red so I looked away as much as I
Starting point is 01:49:44 could and I just decided like I need to disengage and just close my eyes and just go lay down just lay down and like not like escalate this any further and like I heard her finally like get to the to the floors behind the house and she's like moving through and I just hear her like creeping I was looking waiting for me to like pop my eyes open or just look at her and like I knew just to just go to sleep and it would be fine. And it was, but like she, anytime I would like, like, look around, I would just see her like just get really aggressive
Starting point is 01:50:29 and like just like follow me in the brush. If I sat down, she'd like look and I could see her eyes without the light on, but like she'd look at me and make sure I'm not doing anything funny. And like, like, the eyes. S-R-on was on me for like a good while. So finally now, after she had that baby, it's been like super mellow. I think she's just in a good mood, but like I haven't had any problems.
Starting point is 01:50:56 We're just, everything's just smooth and like smooth as butter. And I've learned to just not like see that. Like, like, if I see it in my peripheral, don't look at it. Just focus on what I'm doing. I'll look at the light. Like I'll glance over for a second. if I don't look back, you know, I just let her do her thing and just sort of like try to stay in my lane. But they get really frustrated when you're like looking at them when they're trying to do their thing.
Starting point is 01:51:30 The, I mean, I could speculate. Maybe it's like an ADD thing or something. Like they just, they're wired for that. And like, that's what works for them. And like that might explain why like some people have ADD these days. It's just like some throwback mindset that actually worked in like the wild that kept us alive. But it's been like just a matter of like really just like trying to like respect their boundaries while they try to respect mine. And like another time previous to that was like, well, this is this.
Starting point is 01:52:19 was, I think this was, I can get into the coyote story. That's a good one. Um, but um, I think it was just after New Year's, I think, uh, there had just been like a really hard, like, ice storm that, like, I'd blown through, uh, Westland and, like, there was, like, patches of snow on the ground, but, like, there was just, like, a biting, like, a cold wind, like, blowing through constantly. And, like, most of the snow had melted off from like that ice storm but they were still like patches so I could see like parts of the forest and when they're the juveniles were running through I could see them a little better because they were backlit by the snow and uh it was I think it was a might have been a full moon because a pack of coyotes had been like howling that that night and like suddenly got quiet and I'm like I'm hearing I can sort of I'm like hearing stuff and I'm like
Starting point is 01:53:25 sitting on a beanbag I'm just in the in my back room just like listening I fell asleep for a second and I woke up and I heard the yowls of like
Starting point is 01:53:37 a whole pack of like coyotes and they were like right over the fence and like right in the bushes and I like get up I'm like oh my gosh like a rabid pack of coyotes just like just thrashing around and like what had happened was the big male had gotten all the coyotes to get on him and like you could hear him like running through the woods and just grabbing him and like he's just thrashing around back and forth
Starting point is 01:54:10 and like he's got he's got like that that black like shade up so I can't see anything But I got the window open. I'm just listening to this whole thing. I'm like, nose against the window, just like, oh my gosh. And like,
Starting point is 01:54:27 I'm listening to this, all this, like, like, as each coyote is like getting crushed. And then like, you hear the yalps like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:54:34 yeah, and they're just like melting off one by one. And then like the rest of the group would like, like, like get them and like bring them back. And then like just like one by one, just like, This is Ashlyn Harris from wide open with Ashlyn Harris, and now a vital break from our sponsor's Vital Proteins.
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Starting point is 01:57:44 Indeed.com slash podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? This is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs. Like they would melt off and then like you'd hear another one just like catch them and like snap their neck or whatever. And then they could have I don't know how many coyotes were there. But there was a lot. There hasn't been more than a baker's dozen.
Starting point is 01:58:05 I mean, it could have been like 20 of them. it was a lot and like they were just within like 45 seconds the entire like pack was was dead was done and wiped out and I haven't seen any coyotes since uh no sign no poop nothing like that and um but you could I could hear like I was just like looking and just trying to like see what's going on as I go to the other window see if I can get a better angle at what's going on and like the snow's back lit and the juveniles start noticing I'm watching and so then they come come out and like they're gesturing back to dad or whatever and I can hear him just like smack it on coyote you just hear him like hit chewing the meat and it's just like just really
Starting point is 01:59:05 getting down and like midwinter probably i bet that was a welcome meal for them but uh wow that's really just listening yeah and i'm just listening to it and all of a sudden uh there's about six juveniles and they're all like like the puffed out the hair is about three inches long or something but they look like little poof balls got little cones maybe like um three four inches long not very big, but their eyes are glowing and they're backlit by the snow. And they're all just like, like looking back at, um, the dad and like, and like, they're looking at me and then like, they're all dancing around. Just like, I could just see all of like right there. And they're like just maybe like 10 feet. And they're all looking and I got the window open and I'm like
Starting point is 02:00:02 sort of pressed against like the window screen and like, trying to like see if I can see something and all of a sudden I just hear the the smacking stop because you notice like the kids aren't eating the food and so then all of a sudden I hear a stomp and then like a stomp stomp stomp stomp stomp stomps dump and he starts to run
Starting point is 02:00:24 like he's starting to book it at me I'm like okay so I turn around and I uh I just just disengage but like ever since then like that's like that's what happened so like
Starting point is 02:00:40 by time you get to the story with the female and the eyes and all that stuff it's just like it's been a little like touch and go for the most part but those those six little like juveniles they'll come right up to the window
Starting point is 02:00:55 and they'll be cloaked but I don't know they're there because like their eyes will catch the shine but they've been entertained by me this entire time and so all I've been trying to do is like I know like if there's some animosity towards me uh oh wow we got an eye shine from one who's watching me that's cool um yeah I know that like they're gonna get bigger and I'd rather have like six of them in my quarter instead of like all of them pissed at me
Starting point is 02:01:36 so oh yeah I've been just like thrown nuts out of like you guys like pecons, you know, and so they, they'll come up and they'll watch, they'll watch YouTube. They'll be smacking on nuts and like, you could hear them like cracking the shells and like the almonds, you can hear them like split them in half as they're like, true an on them. They'll just get their back right against the wall. And there's like a little roof line that it's like cuts down right below the window. And so they'll just be hanging out right there.
Starting point is 02:02:07 And just the other day they were, um, sort of, I caught an eye flash and I realized there was like, all four of them were like pressed against the glass watching me, hang out on the computer and like, sometimes when they when they want, I think when they want a little more or they don't know what I'm, what
Starting point is 02:02:24 I'm doing, they'll, one or two from the back will be like, we'll give like a, oh, who and like, we give a little who sounds of like hearing what I'm doing or like, or just they want to know what's going on and that tells me,
Starting point is 02:02:40 like someone else is watching me right now. So I just learn to just like roll with it and just accept that they're just curious. And so. Wow. Yeah. A lot of things, oh, like this will lead into another part. I had put out one of those like, you know, you get those rotissory chickens from the store. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:02 I like pulled off all the parts and I took the carcass and I just threw it out there with all the peanuts. And like, I guess they got into that. and like this was like three four days to go but like then all of a sudden I just hear all of them giving pigeon calls like I think there was about
Starting point is 02:03:21 four or five of them trying to call in a flock of pigeons because they were like they got a taste of that bird meat and they wanted more and so they were just trying to like call in a bird but it's like like I said it's just like it's a carnage and then it's magic
Starting point is 02:03:37 I'm like I just I don't know man Like, I don't know how I feel, but if you ever wanted to come... I was just going to... I was just going to mention it. It's really interesting to look at your entire story and see where you've come from, which what happened in Alaska was very traumatic for you. And then at what's happening current day,
Starting point is 02:04:04 like there's some really cool stuff happening. And you're definitely able to, you know, slowly, you know, move into a different type of relationship, it seems, with them down in your area, which is really cool. Yeah, I think a lot of people, when you hear the stories and then talk about it, they'll have only a handful of experiences, but they don't get, you know, a second chance to just really, like, interact again. And, like, they'll have, like, this, because it's so traumatic, they'll have, like, this dark look on it when it
Starting point is 02:04:46 maybe it wasn't as dark as they thought you know and like it's like to ask like you know peeking in somebody's window that's being a creep but to them they're just curious they don't know those boundaries because if they if they didn't like you you just like you wouldn't be around to like really like say oh that was a bad experience that you just get you you know and if you're still alive after that experience it just like take it as is you know um
Starting point is 02:05:18 sometimes it's a warning but sometimes it's it's more positive than you realize and um but yeah it's like you got like i got remind myself that like it's it's like it's just it's just business you know a lot of it's just business that's that's very interesting josh it's been it's been uh really insightful to hear from you again and to talk to you again and hear about what is currently going on uh over there with you on the on the coast but uh thank you so much for for coming back on the show and and for hanging out again we'll be seeing you uh next summer back in oak oak ridge uh if goes right for both of us should be seeing you there.
Starting point is 02:06:11 For sure. Thanks again, man. Yep. And just remember, just keep banging the drum. A lot of skeptics are just skeptics, and they're always going to be skeptics, but there's a lot of people, most people aren't going to be persuaded by facts or knowledge. They're going to be persuaded by the crowd. You just got to get enough people on board, and those people flip over, and suddenly the
Starting point is 02:06:36 skeptics just go away. And it's about being, a lot of it's about banging the drum more so than like how much evidence you can bring to the table. I mean, you look at like the colossal squid or gorillas for that matter. It took a hundred years for them to like acknowledge gorillas. But here we are, you know. So just just keep doing what you're doing. You're doing good work and I appreciate the show.
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Starting point is 02:09:02 We can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage to come out. And now I feel so bad about it. Who cares what anybody thinks? I know what I saw. I know what's out there.
Starting point is 02:09:17 that's all I care about. Please let people know. Please let them know if you ever see one of these things. You need you tell. Because if you don't, then shame on you. You know, shame on you. This is Ashlyn Harris from Wide Open with Ashton Harris. All right, quick switch, because I want to tell you about one of our favorite sponsors,
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