Bigfoot Society - Braving the Wilds of Bluff Creek with the BC19 Expedition Team

Episode Date: June 21, 2023

In this episode I chat with Tate Hieronymus, Jonathan Easley and Ron Read about the upcoming BC19 expedition up treacherous Bluff Creek to the Patterson-Gimlin film site. This episode relies heavily on an onscreen map so you may also want to check out the video version of the interview here: https://youtube.com/live/g4lj6wsrejo?feature=shareAlso, this is the audio version of a Sunday night livestream so audience questions are involved as well. Episode Resources:Tate's Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/user/tatehieronymusBluff Creek Project Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt_mKhNSETUPU1nu_N55nwARon Mann Read:Trailing Giants Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/Trailing-Giants-188267931208363Check out Jonathan Easley's Western Bigfoot Exploration Youtube channel for more Bigfoot documentaries - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLKVc5Id8l1sC_rOWw8Kl7QSupport the BC19 expedition by sending a donation to their Cash App. https://cash.app/$BC19x~ If you want even more exclusive content, become a Patreon member and gain access to extra audio, a Patron-only Discord and much more over at https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyDo you have a personal Bigfoot encounter you would like to submit for me to share on the podcast?Please head over to www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com and fill out the "Share your Bigfoot Encounter" form. Use as much detail as you can and please specify if you would prefer to remain anonymous or what specific name you would like used with your encounter if it is chosen to be shared.Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_link Tune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more. Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action!--Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.-- MY GEAR-- My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYMy Podcast Mic: https://amzn.to/3AlYwb9My Computer: https://amzn.to/40CCjQyMy Headphones: https://amzn.to/40A8gcrMy Webcam: https://amzn.to/3NqfddhThe best Bigfoot book: https://amzn.to/41x8IcNLose the weight along with me on Noom. Get 20% off your subscription with link below. (Consult your doctor first) https://noom.com/r/GdkaWNddL?1251Join Whatnot and pick up some sweet video games and vintage shirts. Use my link below and we both get $10 credit after you place your first order. https://whatnot.com/invite/bigfootsociety

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Good about you, Jeremiah. Oh, doing so good. I'm just happy to spend some time with you guys, hang out. and but we are here tonight to talk about the BC 19 expedition to Bluff Creek that's coming up pretty rapidly. How far away is the BC19 expedition now? About a month and a half from now. So that's coming up pretty fast. It is.

It's coming up really fast. When you guys start making your respective, respective journeys, out to the site? I'm not sure when Jonathan's planning on going, like when he's planning on leaving, but I think Ron and I were going to... I'm leaving on the 20th of July, so we should be meeting up in Lincoln, Nebraska,

I think on like the 21st or 22nd, something like that. And caravan from there. Yeah. These guys are coming from Florida, Wisconsin. I'm coming from Idaho, so I have like a 10-hour drive. It's not that bad for me.

I make it in a day. But you guys got quite the commute from, you're literally going from one coast to the other, right, Tate? Yeah, it's funny because I think, no, I was talking to Ian Carton about this, but no, I think I have a little further drive than Ron does. Like, if you were to stretch Florida out towards the east more, my drive would be longer because you wouldn't think it because I'm going up.

the dynamic is weird of it but it might have a longer drive than rontas for sure for sure for sure we've got a few people i want to shout out uh as we've got people rolling on in we're up to 16 now we've got the illustrious mike casey hanging out with us how's it going sir hope you're not driving the truck while you're watching this uh we got mr brown dorf of course from the great state of California. How's it going, dude? We've got hides and lawn grass. He's a cool, cool dude as well. He's got some great stories. And, oh, we've got Kevin Morrison here. Good to see you, sir. Kevin, Kevin, Kevin. Now that we've got a few people hanging out with us, does anyone want to,

first, give me a little summary of what the BC-19 expedition is. Like, why even, why are we doing this crazy journey. I don't know. Who wants to take that one first? All right. I'll say it simply. So you have this giant area and you have this string of sightings and encounters.

And they stretch from the Patterson Gimlin film site all along, this kind of long corridor. And they lead all the way out to Laoskamp and then layered meadow. And, I mean, you just keep following that down, down the map. but everything stops at one point. And past that point, no one has been, no one has,

we haven't heard of anybody crossing that point. There's, from the Klamath to the, to Laos camp, there's this giant, just gigantic section that's been, for the most part,

unexplored. We, Tate's been asking around and people like resources like Robert Leiderman and a few others that are well connected in the area. They haven't heard of anybody making that trek. We might be the first people

in decades to make this trek from the mouth of the Klamath all the way up to the Patterson Giblin film site. And I'd say about 80% of that is untravelled, unseen, for the most part, undocumented. So it's exciting. Who knows what we'll find. You know, this is a place where nobody goes. But yet at the point that at the point that this area kind of where wherever one's gone, there's been sightings and activity. So who knows what'll be a, what'll lie ahead of us there. That's why it's exciting to me. Oh, exactly. It really is a historic journey. If you think about it, I would even dare to say full of danger. Ron, can you talk a little bit about, are you, are you following a trail up here? Or what is it that you'll be walking alongside,

or how is that going to go down? So I think we're going to be following the creek itself, and we're going to be trying to navigate along that waterway. And in areas where it's particularly treacherous, if there's too many rapids or the water gets too high, then we'll utilize what we can in the area, like game trails or any type of embankment to kind of navigate across. It's old school.

I mean, it's, it's, we're doing a version of kind of bushwhacking, but without having to, to, um, actually hack down vegetation because of course the creek is established a natural pathway. Um, but it's, uh, it'll be interesting. It's, it's, um, I'm learning about, um, how to conduct wildlife surveys as an environmental field technician. And when you follow either a waterway like this, or you follow, um, an established path like a road. or hiking trail. That's what you would call a non-linear survey for wildlife. And it's kind of like

you're using an established natural pathway to come into contact with other wildlife and survey it. And that's just one of the things that we're going to be doing when we explore that area.

It is so cool. The other thing that I'm really excited about, so it's not just that you guys are walking up the creek. which viewers want to be aware at the beginning of this, there's actual rapids in this creek.

It's not just going to be a walk in the park. But at the same time, I believe all three of you are going to be filming a documentary on this BC-19 expedition. Tate, do you mind talking a little bit about how you guys are going to film this expedition? So I know like I'm going to

be filming for the Saabay series. Then Jonathan's going to be filming for Western Bigfoot Exploration. And then Ron's going to be filming for trailing giants. And, you know, what's cool about it is outside of the filmmaking aspect, but inside of research, we, you know, we collaborate really good together. You know, we kind of are already thinking something before somebody else says it. So I think in that aspect, it's going to be. be good, but at the same time, you're going to see that we work well, but when it comes to the

filmmaking aspect, it's going to be the same journey, but through different ways, like editing styles and filming styles and stuff like that. It's going to be the same journey, but a completely different experience through three different points of view, which is a really cool aspect. And that's something we did a few years back with Small Town Monsters, Alex and Eli, doing it would be on the trail. So that's going to be a really, you know, unique aspect and this journey that we're doing this summer. That's very cool. And I love the stuff you guys have put out so far.

I'm a big fan of it. Of course, if people want to see the episode that I've been in Tate's series, Sasquatch Search for Saba, you can watch the Iowa episode, which is, it's weirdly enough, the most popular episode. I don't know why. But I know why, wink, wink. Wink, I'll never tell. The cool thing about this expedition is that it's not just you three guys going on it.

Jonathan, do you mind talking a little bit about what's the rest of the crew that's going on this trip? And anyone that wants to help with that as well. But we'll start with Jonathan. Well, we'll take kind of organize this. But the people that are going along, one of them is Robert Laterman, retired Forest Ranger from the Humboldt area, from the Redwoods. And anybody who's met him knows he's like the most knowledgeable guy and really safe. And he just has like a story for everything you tell him.

And it's always like, it's always an entertaining story. He's such a cool guy. And I'm really looking forward to, you know, backpacking this with him. Other people, Ian Carton, it's coming out from Virginia. He's been a member of the Bluff Creek Project a long time. And if you talk to him, he's, I mean, he's way into like the Patterson Gimlin era. historical stuff. He's really fun to talk to as well. So the people that are going along are really heavily invested. There's a few other people. Tate, you want to fill that in?

Yeah. So like, I'll kind of explain because for this hike, this is what, three months in the making or more guys. And there's a lot of moving part. I mean, sure, you could do this hike solo without anything, but I think there's a big risk factor in that. So to do this safely, so nobody gets hurt and it's taking a village you could use that term so but we have like a base camp group and that's going to be Damon Irons who we've worked with before Terry Lindsay and Stephen Lindsay they're going to be in the base group area at the cell site and then I think we're we're going to have a friend of mine I don't want to say his name publicly but he's going to be up there. He's going to come be our safety checkpoint guy. He's going to go to each

checkpoint that we're going to be at. There's two of them. And then as far as the hiking group, it's going to be, oh, I forgot. Somebody else is going to be at the base camp. I think Kit Morrill is going as far as I know. That should be fun. And then as far as the hiking group, it's going to be myself, Ron Reed, Jonathan Easley, Jesus Pyon, Jr., a brown dwarf in the chat. I know, he's planning on going up there with us on the hike, Robert Leiderman, Ian Carton. So that's just, I don't think I'm missing anybody. So that's going to be the hiking group.

So there's a lot of, there's a lot of moving parts to this. And you can see on the map here, there's, I think there's five different areas where we're doing. There's one, two, three, four, five. And those are going to be our, you know, stopping points for each day and how far we're going to hike. And you can kind of see how far we're going to hike. And you can kind of see how far.

far each places from each other because of the very top corner of the picture, I made like a little legend or whatever you want to call it. Tate, should we just kind of follow the trail up and talk about it as I scroll up here? Yeah, let's do it. All right. I got it. Okay, so we start out first here, hike start at the Klamath River.

Let's have you start out there, Tate. I think that is going to be the most tricky part. I think most of us, when we've been talking about it, you were in the Zoom meeting when we first had our Zoom meeting, and you heard our concerns about that. We're like, we're thinking that's going to be probably the hardest portion of the hike because for anybody that's driven through Bluff Creek, that's Highway 96 right there.

And that's where Bluff Creek drains into the Klamath. Yeah, there is rapids there. But I've never hiked down there to see how, big those are because you're always seeing it for the bridge when you drive over the creek. So it looks pretty gnarly. I'd imagine it won't be very easy, but it's not going to be too hard, I suspect. But the winter up there has been pretty bad and there's been a lot of snow. So the water level could actually be a lot higher than it's usually been up there.

So that adds another factor of level. It adds another level of difficulty to what we're doing. So what's the backup? Let's say you get to Bluff Creek, you get to the Klamath hike in area. And what happens if it's just a raging river, we're just going to be bushwhacking on the side of the creek? Or what are we thinking?

I say we pucker up and pray and keep going. All right. All right, fair enough. Well, let's just follow this on update here. So we're literally just following this creek here, Bluff Creek. What do we got going on right here? So that is the first safety checkpoint. I've been talking to Steven Strouffer and a few others about it.

So for our purposes that gentleman, I'm not going to name his name. we're just going to call him Harvey. That's where Harvey's supposed to meet us with the car and supplies. And that's where we're going to evaluate how we're feeling, you know, to if it's like, okay, this creaks really, really bad. We shouldn't continue it just because we don't want to get hurt. That's what we're going to stop. But if we're liking how everything's feeling, if it feels good, we're going to keep going.

But that's right place. So depending on the roads, condition if you can get to us, that's going to say a lot. But that's our first base camp for the night. It's about four miles up Bluff Creek from the start, 900 feet in elevation. So which four miles, I mean, I've done four miles from the Bluff Creek Bridge near last camp to the film site. I think to and from there is about four miles.

So it's very doable. It's not that hard by any stretch of the imagination distance-wise. the hardest part is just going to be the obstacles that we have to traverse. Oh, absolutely. I mean, and I'm guessing the other time that you did those four miles, you were not in the creek doing that? No, we were. Oh, you were?

Oh, okay. Okay, cool. It was me, a buddy of mine, Austin, Robert Leiderman and Roddy Kelly, we hiked in the creek up to the film site and then back down to where we parked the car, which is about four miles, give or take. which that was in the creek. And none of us fell down once. The only time I fell down was on land

when we were like 100 yards from the car. It always happens right before the whistle. There's a little voice that says, what if I mess up? What if I'm not ready? I see a whole highlight reel of everything I don't want to happen. Missed shots, turnovers, letting my team down.

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l-o-l for rainfall say there you never know right mike there you go uh let's continue up the creek here without a paddle what do we got going on up here let's see bigfoot creek huh Bigfoot Creek. So that, you can actually read about that in the Bluff Creek project book that Robert did. There's been talks about like, I mean, it obviously is named Bigfoot Creek for a reason. Because apparently I think some of the older, older loggers backed up there in the day, they were saying they had some interesting encounters and stuff during like the late 60s and maybe early 50s. So we're going to, that's our second base camp.

That's the other, that's the last place. where our buddy Harvey can get to us with supplies. And then after that, there's no other way in, except for Laos camp, which is, was it eight miles from there, up the creek? So that's the last place we're going to have civilization. And in between Bigfoot Creek and Laos camp, which is, you can see the very top circle is Laos camp,

and then the very bottom circle is Bigfoot Creek. it's going to be an interesting hike beyond that we don't know what we're going to find really because I think from Bigfoot Creek down to Wright's Place has been explored to some degree

but other than from Bigfoot Creek to Laos camp I don't know so it should be very interesting I want to take a little detour for a second before we continue on to want to know from Ron

is Bandit going with you on this? Yeah, the plan is to take Bandit. He's my long-time travel companion. I plan on bringing a lot of his supplies, not making him carry his pack like he used to. He's now going to be 13 years old. He's that Australian Cattle Dog or Blue Healer mixed breed. And you know what?

He still gets up and he goes on seven-mile hikes with me. just like on a moment's notice he's getting he was pacing around the house trying to get me up earlier to get out and about so he's still very very active i think he'll be great and in some of the creek and some of the calmer waters you know that's a great opportunity for for some good water therapy for his old joints so so i think it'll be a good trip for him i think he's going to have challenges like everyone else but he's still full of surprises and he keeps up with everybody, you know. So,

this might be one of the last great adventures that we take him on because he's starting to enjoy the comfort of home a little bit more than he used to. But, but yeah, I think he's gung-ho. He's still ready for something. And, yeah,

I don't want to deny him of that if he's still willing and able. I like what Mark Paul is saying in the chat. Yes. It's a good thing. Yeah. It's true, though. it's smart you know I know

well there's been times before where bandit has sensed something correct Ron yeah and um they were uh Alex and Eli from Bigfoot Beyond the trail

they were able to kind of capture a lot of that and um yeah there was something going on we were hearing Knox later in camp we thought that we caught a whoop on camera and amidst all of that band it was very

high alert, very nervous. That also goes back to 2018 when we were hiking along a section of the Bigfoot Trail in Mendocino National Forest. And I had heard some knocks, thought I had heard some, seen something in low light. And when I was trying to put it all together and make sense of it, bandits instincts were kind of going off in the following day. He was very high tuned to something behind us on the trail that never revealed itself. So, I don't know, like Bandit seemed. to be aware of the presence of things right before strange things start happening. And yeah, he's been so valuable to me and the people that I work with for kind of letting us know what's going on out there.

The way that this creek is set up, guys, is it you're going to be walking up the creek, and are there pretty steep sides on either side? There's something could be watching you from the top of the ridge or how is this setup geographically for this for this creek? Well, if you've, if you're a fan of the Patterson-Gimmon film, then you might have seen that, was it 71 or 72 overview shot of the film site? that I think, was it, was it Renee DeHendon that took that one? Like, it's a valley.

It's a creet. It's really, it's a really steep on both sides of the film site. And that's what it's going to be like the whole way through the hike. It's going to be, you're in a valley. There's no quick way out if there was an emergency. It's not like you're going to run up a hill and be out. You have to climb up a really steep mountain. Maybe it could be 60 to 70 degrees, you know, the angle-wise.

That's pretty steep. So the only way out, the only way out is back down or back up. Yeah, I was going to point out that, like, looking at the map itself, you can see that there's these contour lines that go up and up and up and up and up from the creek. The closer they are together, that signifies like a more, gain and elevation. So if there were wide gaps, then that would mean that, okay, it's a little bit of a shelf or a gradual climb.

But since these contour lines are on top of each other, on top of each other, top of each other, topographic maps, use that style to kind of demonstrate that, yeah, we're in the valley and we're going to be looking up at a steep ridge as we kind of cut through this area. So the creek has been pretty much the only geographical feature. to dig into that earth and that rock. And so it's been consistent. The water has flown there for thousands of years,

but that's the only prominent feature that's digging it. And so it's in deep. It's deeply rooted. And we're going to be deep in the earth, like walking through like these steep mountain areas. You know, Mark brings up an interesting point. Mark is a very cool guy from Tennessee. We'll leave it there.

So is there a leader for this mission? Or how are the team dynamics going to play out for this? Is that something we've thought about? One man for himself. And I am my own team leader. And, no, I'm kidding. I think, Tate, you've been, you've been pretty in charge of putting this whole thing together. But, yeah, I wouldn't say I am a team leader, but like, I'm definitely manning everything.

Like the, like, I think a lot of the logistics and aspects of it, trying to get everybody wrangled together. You know, and I think, I think if there's a team leader that I think you're going to have. have a lot of, I don't want to say riff. I think you know what I'm trying to get at. I think there's a lot of us here very experienced in the woods, especially in this area. We've been there so many times. I mean, Ron's done the Hall Appalachian Trail. Jonathan's done a lot of backpacking and camping.

Robert Leiderman is, you know, retired Forest Service Park Ranger, law enforcement. Ian Carton, you know, he knows that it. area really well. So I think there's going to be a lot of us who are very experienced who can help each other out. And then as far as like safety aspect, we do have Kit Morrill, who is a, you know, his retired firefighter, but nonetheless, he's very experienced. And then we do have a GPS monitor that we're going to be using for any emergencies in case that happens.

And this is something I was talking to Ron about, I think, like a few weeks ago. I don't really think we're really worried about breaking a leg. You'd really have to mess up to break your leg. I think more than anything that's going to happen, you could easily break your ankle or roll your ankle. Oh, yeah. Or besides that, you might break your arm if you fall down and you catch yourself and you land wrong. But you'd really have to do something to break your leg.

But even with a broken ankle or a roll-up. weight, rolled ankle, I think you can make it out fairly easier on that than you would like a spiral fracture in a leg or something, or even a broken arm for that matter. It would not be fun or pleasant, but you can do it. I'm curious about, you know,

spending that much time hiking in the water up the creek. How are you guys going to be prepared gear-wise for spending that much time in the creek hiking? Man, that's a tough one. There's so many, precautions you have to take. I mean, that water is pretty cold, right? And when you walk through it with

shoes and socks on for just a little bit, you start to kind of lose circulation. It's pretty cold. I think I hiked like, I think it was like two miles, well, four miles in total up a place called, it was just past a Patterson Gimlin film site up a place called the Scorpion Creek. And out of the three people in my group, all of us fell one time. And it hurts because you're falling on like rock bed in the creek, you know? And so I got to learn a little bit there. But the thing is, so I got these like rubber shoes from Walmart. I plan on using those as like water shoes. We'll see how those fare. I'll also take a pair of boots with me, you know, just in case and roll, roll from there. But yeah, hiking in the creek kind of sucks no matter what. It's slow going. It's cold.

so yeah man and the other thing about like preparation especially for food wise that's going to determine a lot if the road conditions for Harvey to get to if he can't get to those spots then we have to bring our food in on our packs

because at least to the second checkpoint a lot of our food could be in his car and then from there he would take it which would save us a lot of, you know, a lot of energy carrying that stuff. So if we can't, if you can't get to those spots, then we have to take it on our, on our packs and just deal with it at that point.

Oh, absolutely. I want to take, oh, go ahead. Sorry. Yeah, just real quickly. But as far as like fresh water goes, you know, if you get a couple of live straws and then you have a, you know, some bottles to fill up in, that creek is fairly clean. and I talked to Rowdy. He's like, oh, I drank it from that creek with no nothing and no problem. So water were pretty good on. So that's the nice thing. There you go. I wanted to take a quick minute to shout out a few things. We've got almost 50 people in the chat. It's great to see all you here hanging out with us on Sunday night before Memorial Day.

I've got these gentlemen's YouTube channels, I believe, in the show notes for this. If I don't, I'll have that in later. But if you're not subscribed to these guys, please make sure that you subscribe to their channels. They've got great content. And of course, if you're not subscribed to this one, make sure that you are subscribed, hit the bell. So you get notified. I have new episodes every Monday. Friday. But if you have any questions for these guys about the BC-19 expedition, you're welcome to put

those in the chat and we will work those into the live stream. Just make sure that they are all in all caps so that I can see them easily. So Tate, I remember, you know, you allowed me to be in the team planning Zoom call, which was really cool. And one thing that I noticed, or that made things get really serious for me was there was an area of the of the expedition where you know you don't have cell service you're kind of it's like a point of no return right right that's uh that's after uh bigfoot creek okay right after that because if you go so like zoom in a little bit of germ yeah yep uh so you can see bigfoot creek that's the last like place or a car could get to provide

that the roads are fine. Then if you just go up the creek, it kind of goes to the left and up. That's Fish Creek. There's, we camp there. There's no road or cell service. There's no cell service anywhere up there at all, except for the cell site. Then if you keep going up a little bit more, that's last camp. Now, if you go up to the very top of the picture here, There you go. You see that where it says there you go. So from the start of the creek, I think scroll up a little more, is that all the way up? There it is. Yeah, from the hike start to Wright's place, which is the first base camp that's four miles. From Wright's place to Bigfoot Creek, that's 3.3. Now from Bigfoot Creek to Fish Creek, that's five miles. And then from there, from Fish Creek to last camp, that's three. So, you know, that's a good way.

It's eight miles from Bigfoot Creek to Laos camp. It always happens right before the whistle. There's a little voice that says, what if I mess up? What if I'm not ready? I see a whole highlight reel of everything I don't want to happen. Missed shots, turnovers, letting my team down. And for a second, there's doubt. But then I realize I've done enough to be where I'm at.

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and leave their gear there and then hike somebody out. It's going to be an ordeal. But, again, I don't really think that's going to happen. I think the worst that's going to happen is somebody will twist an ankle. That's worst case scenario, in my opinion. That's what I foresee. hopefully hopefully hopefully yes yeah I want to share fingers crossed

we have a friend in the chat we have a few of them but we see Alex Petikoff is here who the heck are these bozos good to see you buddy who the heck are these city slickers yeah right tell me a little bit about how at these campsites how are you going to be how is your camp going to be set up are you doing

hammocks or tents or what do you guys packing in? Well, I mean, we're going to bring our bride lights. So we'll have that, Alex. And then, yeah, I'm bringing in a tent just because I don't want to deal with mosquitoes there. I remember one time I got bit up by mosquitoes really bad. It was not fun. So that's for me.

Yeah, just tent and roll up sleeping mat that you can blow up air, tiny. fits in a good pack. Those are handy. Go ahead, Jonathan. I'm going to take my, I got this sweet little tent. It's called a Six Moons Designs Lunar Solo. And it weighs like just a tick over a pound, pokes up with your trekking pole.

And it's just this awesome, awesome backpacking tent. I've had it in the wind, the rain. And it's just such a little tiny fortress. And, you know, this is all primitive. There's going to be no flat spot, no designated flat spot like Laos camp to set your stuff up at, no way. So we're going to have to kind of find our own ways to flatten out spots and set up that way. So I can even tell you what our camp is going to look like until we're there. But as far as gear goes, yeah, man, that's going to be a sweet setup that my lunar solo hasn't let me down and packs up to about, I'd say about a foot.

It's a tiny little thing. And it does get cold by the creek. I'm taking a like a marmot 15 sleeping bag um Bluff Creek is a weird place it'll be like 100 degrees in the day

and you can get into the 40s it's got in the 30s at night when I've been there. So like you have these drastic like temperature changes so you'll be in like a tank top and shorts and at night you'll be all bundled up in gloves in a jacket. It's weird. Ron I'd love to hear from you

to hear what your idea for what you're packing in to for your overnights. Um, so, so because we're going in an area that is so saturated with Bigfoot reports, like an, and if we get an opportunity later, I would love to take a really quick tour of just scrolling up the map and, and realize that every checkpoint that we have has sightings and significant Bigfoot historical events happening. Yes. Right.

Let's, that's a great idea. Let's do that later. But definitely, because of that, like I'm very like research heavy on it. and like one of the things, it's going to be a nightmare to pack for me because I want to bring in different gear to like test the quality of the water, look at like soil mixtures and start doing what I just learned as a field technician to kind of understand Bigfoot habitat and what makes it unique and are there other places in the U.S. that are like it? But beyond that, the tent or my sleeping structure, I'm planning on bringing in

a ground blind used by hunters as kind of an experimental research technique for big footing. And they make these blinds now that are see-through fabric that are camouflaged from the outside and whoever's in the inside can see out. And basically I'll pop up this blind and I'll have 180-degree view of the forest. And the idea is if something comes creeping into our can,

thinking everybody's snoring and as asleep, somebody's a century posted in the blind and they might see something under the moonlight. And we'll also plan on having a thermal unit displayed just to get a wide field of vision. And I was telling Tate, I was playing with it. And I got it on another device that I can actually rotate and get a 360-degree view from outside the tent. And then again, be inside, be in the dark, and be concealed from something looking towards our camp. Oh, yeah, me and Ron have probably spent a few hours talking about, like, I did it. Because, like, we want to film inside the blind. But if you're filling with night vision, you can actually see light.

And, like, if you're looking from the outside end to the blind, you can see light. So I was, like, thinking, Ron and I were like, I was like, dude, what if you get, like, the, you know, like, the one-way, like, sheet of paper or whatever you put on. a window so it's like a one-way mirror. It's like, what if you get that and you put that over the IR so the eye can still see out but nothing can see in? And I think Ron messed with that and he got something to work with that. And then so we've been coming up with like different ideas of how we can stay invisible inside the blind but still look out without being seen or just different ideas like that.

So we've literally been on the phone for several hours talking to just coming up with Yeah. And the other thing about it, too, is like what we're realizing is a lot of the hunting technology in this field is designed to be concealed by so that it can be applied for various different animal species. So if you're looking around long enough, you'll find hunting equipment that would be really beneficial in the right context for Bigfoot research. And one of the things I like about these blinds is there's no zippers. How many times do we zip something when we hear something? thing in the camp and we try to unzip and get out and but we never get past the tech door before we hear something scurry off. There's these silent sliders that are lined on these so that hunters can see the animal, lower the window, line up a shot and get their game. And we're going

to be doing that with cameras. And so whatever walks into our camp won't even know that the window's being opened and we're filming them. I love that. This was something cool that Kip suggested to me. So I think maybe it might be Is that Fish Creek? Is that the second? That's Base Camp 3. So I think at Base Camp 3

I think we're going to spend two nights instead of one. That way we can take an extra day to explore. You'd be like, okay, give us a break from hiking. At least one day of, you know, from break of hiking. And it gives us time to explore, maybe do some extra drone shots

and, you know, B-roll shots and interviews and stuff like that to kind of just take a break. And then we finish the hike off going to Laos Camp. And, you know, Laos Camp's going to be nice. Like when we get to Laos Camp, I think when we get to Fish Creek, we're going to be like, dude, we're almost done. We've made it. Then when we get to Laos Camp, it's going to be like very, very nice. And it's just very, it's a very easy hike from there to the film site. So it's going to be really exciting.

Are you bringing any, oh my goodness, I'm blanking, pheromone chips. You're bringing any pheromone chips with you? Nope. No? Why not? No. All right. Tate's natural musk is going to be.

That's true. You guys are going to have to, we'll leave with that. We got the creek right there. We're good. We've all decided that. we're all going to like jar our underwear in one one thing hanging on like some rope somewhere away from camp there you go wow you'll be in legend made science too for sure tape yeah good stuff oh my goodness we're going to get kicked off youtube all right uh viewers if you've got any

questions feel free to throw those in the chat but uh ron i liked your idea earlier uh where if we could go up this expedition route and kind of talk about maybe places that Bigfoot has been seen previously or maybe places you might think there could be some action. Well, real quickly before that, can you scroll up to, what is it, a rights place, to the right a little bit? No, no, no, go down. To the right, to the right. To the right of rights place. See? Oh, yeah, yeah.

Now go to the right a little bit. Okay. It's either rice place or Bigfoot Creek. Go up to Bigfoot Creek, sorry. Okay, I'm going. Now, scroll to the right a little bit. There it is. So right there, can you circle those two little lakes right here?

Okay. That's Twin Lakes. Now, that's actually where we're going to be headed after the Bluff Creek hike. Really? And Bigfoot Creek, there's Cliff has researched that area. There's been supposed Bigfoot activity in Bigfoot Creek. And it's literally, well, I say a stone's throw away from Twin Lakes. But Twin Lakes also is known to have really good Bigfoot activity.

So I just wanted to throw that out there real quickly. Sorry, Ron. Go ahead. So the one thing that I was looking at is we got the hike start right here. And, you know, there are reports right there at the mouth of the Klamath River. I plan on reaching out to some of the little local businesses, the campgrounds, and seeing if they have any good stories. But I have no development on that at this point. But then up there to the left, you'll see Fish Lake.

And there are several reports from that Fish Lake area. And you can see Bluff Creek goes right behind it. And I went out there in 2018, kind of check it out, and it was closed. And, I mean, it's just a really cool spot. But tons of people go there. It's a developed campground with a, it's pretty cheap to stay the night there. I think maybe 10 bucks or something. But they stock the fish.

And so it's a good like fish in camp experience, very popular area. Lots of Bigfoot reports. And, you know, you can maybe look and see that, hey, maybe something walking along Bluff Creek, dipped into Serpentine Creek, heard some noises and came out to investigate the human commotion at Fish Lake. I heard a report of somebody that was. out there with her parents, I think her dad and maybe one of their siblings, and they were sleeping in the back of his truck while he was doing some fishing at night. And then they were woken up by like this screaming. And they all were kind of woke up, stirred around. The next

person over at the other campsite was like saying Bigfoot, it's Bigfoot, man, I'm getting out of here. And then the father wasn't like intimidated. at that point. But then he says, I just go back to sleep. I'm still, I'm, I'm still going to go fishing here, you know. I'll wake you up if we need to. And then they wake up to the truck, like speeding out of the campground, like 50 miles an hour on like gravel roads.

And or maybe it might be paved at certain points there. But like they remember seeing the fishing pole. Their dad's like prized fishing pole fall out the back of the truck. And they're trying to scream like, stop, stop, stop. you lost your poll. He didn't stop. Never went back for it. And she seems to think that maybe like after the initial screams, he heard something else or saw something and never spoke of it.

That's funny, Alex. One, Ron, that's an awesome story. I was also distracted by Alex's hilarious reference to previous expeditions. Bravo, good sir. All right. Ron, let's continue. This is great. Do you guys have anything else?

I know we're covering a lot of ground, but you guys might know more stuff, so you should chime in, too, if you're aware of anything. The only thing I can add to that is that Fish Lake, this gentleman, Tate, you know, Dick Levine? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He told me that I, this is what he said, that Jerry Crew found tracks near Fish Lake. He was even telling me you go into it, and there's a little turnoff. He goes, now it's all overgrown, but it used to be a turnoff. and that he had found tracks there initially.

So I don't know. That's what he told me. And every time I think of fish lake, reminds me of that story. Legit. All right. Let's continue up the trail, guys. Love Creek.

They're bluffing. I mean, this seems... We're scrolling as fast as we're going to be hiking this. That's true. We'll probably be walking a little faster. Yeah. So Bigfoot Creek, we talked about Bigfoot Creek. Was it Bigfoot Creek or the next spot up? Can you zoom out a little bit?

Yep. It was Bigfoot Creek is where Robert has mentioned in the book and where Cliff is researched. I know Cliff. Okay. From what Robert told me, I don't know if Cliff has hiked from Laos camp to Bigfoot Creek or if he just drove to Bigfoot Creek. Because like I said, Bigfoot Creek, there's a road that takes you down to that spot. So I don't know. When trying to find the Patterson Gimlin film site, Cliff said,

Cliff Brackman said that's where he began because he was like, oh, Bigfoot Creek. So he went there somehow. So he either drove or walked it. So that's the issue, you know, the elephant in the room we can talk about later. But go back to that. So I was going to say up there by Fish Creek, you have. Onion Mountain and in that vicinity, I mean, like Laird Meadows near Onion Mountain, you've got Onion Mountain, Onion Lake, like tracks have been found out there for,

for years. And so that's another spot that's on Blue Creek Mountain. Usually between Onion Mountain and Blue Creek Mountain, there's so much, so much history of finding tracks. And I know Bob Titmus pulled a lot out of those areas, found some things. So that's a three tracks that, uh, Patterson, Robert, and Bob. Roger and Bob came down to investigate where in between there and June Blue Creek and Onion Mountain.

Yep. Wow. I mean, this place has a lot of history. Just everything we're going to pass by has been known for some bigfoot activity to some degree. And the fact that we're hiking in a place that nobody ever frequents, I think we might have a good chance of spotting something. And there's more that I'll say to that later,

I'd continue with what Ron's wanting to do. Also, just to make it super clear for everyone in the chat. Yeah. Go ahead. This is, yeah, the expedition is Northern California, Bluff Creek. All right. New the Redwoods. Fish Creek.

Good old Laos camp, which in itself has, you know, a knowledge and history of different sightings. And, you know, it's where also times, like, held the night. 58 Pacific Northwest expedition too. So just Laoskamp alone has a lot going for it. You've heard a lot of people. There's a lot of stories about Laos camp. We have stories about Laos camp, stuff we've recorded. It's been sightings.

Bobo saw one there. But south of Laos camp, no one knows what's out there. So that's the thing is you guys really, laid that out in an awesome way how much history is in this area and then you're you're literally hiking through it and almost an unexplored part of it and man i think there's a chance there's a there's a huge chance you guys are going to get some crazy action on this and i'm just super excited for you what's cool what's living there right right yeah yeah well here's what i was thinking i was asking robert and stephen i was like have you do you guys know of anybody that's ever found tracks

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ones and I don't know how many years I've actually found Bigfoot prints on the creek of Bluff Creek, which would be historic in a way. You know, because the last time creeks were pulled was 67 on the creek itself. Will you have plaster supplies with you or something similar in order to get? track casting. Wow. I'll be watching. I don't want that happen. I mean, with any backpacking trip, especially

over this many days, you're constantly watching like every ounce you put into your backpack because everything adds up very, very quickly. If anyone's gone backpacking on a multi-day, you know, every little thing counts. And so yeah, we're going to have to account for,

you know, plaster cast, all of our equipment. And, you know, like I have friends that do backpacking. videos of their long journeys, but we're kind of loaded up even more than them because we have night cameras. I have like three or four cameras that I constantly rotate through. You know, just, but if I was just going on a hike or backpacking trip, no Bigfoot involved, no night stuff involved. My pack weight decreases about, you know, five or six pounds, maybe more. So we really have to watch it. I think we're all going to carry a little bit of plaster cast. We don't want to be those people that find tracks and, you know, just have a cool

story about it. Did Alex say something about, yeah, Alex, I will have the lighter on my phone, but you know what? Nothing beats, nothing beats a physical track. You know, it's like, why do people buy CDs still or tapes or records? It's not about listening to it on your phone. It's about the physical. It's like there's something cool about that.

But it's a great backup, though. I mean, to have that as a backup, that 3D app, right? I'll give you an example. There was a cast out in the Olympic Peninsula recently. They made a cast of this track, and it didn't look very amazing, but they made a 3D scan. And I swear, I mean, this is what I think. I think that scan was better and more telling than the cast itself. So I don't know.

I think it should be like a new thing that people kind of use to double proof their find. To Tate's credit, though, a photo opportunity like this is way better than this. Yeah. That's really funny, Ron. That's true. Yeah, totally, man. That's, that was, I love the, the prop in there. That was so good. Did you have that ready just for that moment the whole time?

Yeah, I texted Ron before we started. I was like, Ron, I was like, wrong. I was going to say this. Be ready with this for this particular sarcastic joke. That was good. Ron, you're muted, buddy. Oh. Okay, so I just had it from the last interview that I didn't even use it.

And then I just had them at my feet conveniently. No pun intended. Tate, you had mentioned there was an elephant in the room. Do you want to bring up that, whatever that is, and hopefully it's... So the elephant in the room, you could call it an elephant if you want. but Cliff said he was Cliff or Robert said Cliff has done that hike. I don't know

if he did because when he was looking for the film site, I don't know if he's hiked from last camp to Bigfoot Creek looking for it. It's very well he could have. I don't really know. But if he did, I don't see any pictures that he posted anywhere

from it. This is the first time you'll see it on camera. Yeah, this is like, And clear crystal 4K. Exactly. This is going to be the first time anybody is actually documented it publicly and released that footage. So that's going to be pretty cool.

And that's why it's a historical journey because as far as I know, where the first big floor is to hike the whole thing and film it and publish it publicly. So that's what makes it historical. And plus the other thing, too, is, you know, when you look at like the 50 expedition and Bluff Creek or when Roger and Bob went there, you know, yeah, sure, Roger and Bob did hike or walk in the creek a lot while they're there, but I don't think anybody's done like what we're going to do in the area because everybody's sticking to the roads, you know, because it's the easiest way to travel in there. No one's going to take their packs and hike through up the creek. And then back then to do, you know, several days. a hike like that just on a pack,

what Roger and Bao would have to bring would be ridiculous, like the amount of food and gear, and it would be a lot heavier. It would be just a lot harder to do. So, you know, as technology has gotten better, gear's gotten lighter and easier to use and smaller, it makes something like this more doable. And then to go along with what Jonathan's saying,

yeah, if we weren't filming anything, this would be a lot easier, and our packs would be a lot lighter, but like I'm bringing a couple cameras and a GoPro and then a drone to get drone shots of it. So it's like... Wow.

You have to, if you're, especially if you're doing a documentary, so you got to film it. You can't film it without cameras, but you also need to live. You need to have food and water to, you know, be comfortable on this hike and do it safely.

So that's where it gets tricky, I think, on this hike is the, you know, filming aspect. If we were just doing big foot, stuff, one little thermal would be totally fine. And, you know, we weren't worried about filming, but the fact that we're filming is going to make it a lot more challenging. When do we, uh, the actual date is not public.

Roundabouts. Roundabout July, August, somewhere in there. Yeah. Fantastic. It's coming up very soon. Tate, is this a, is this an expedition where people can, can, well, a few things. Can they support the expedition financially?

And also, is there any way they can follow along as you guys go on this expedition? So, yeah, I talked to Ron and Jonathan. We've been talking about this. So anybody can support the high, we made a special cash app for it. So anybody can support. I think you have it in the notes, the show notes, Jeremiah. So I think it's BC19. X for Expedition at

Cash App. So you can support their, you know, that's going to go towards any medical supplies or any gas and anything we would possibly need if something goes wrong and stuff like that. But they're like, if

there's people that want to be a sponsor and get like their logo from their YouTube or their name and the credits or something of what we're doing, there's a sponsor. sponsorship fee, which is about $65 to do that. And then we'll put your logos and, like, your name in the credits of our films and stuff like that.

And on, like a, probably going to make a poster or a sure or something that will put everything on to send that out to people, too. So I'm kind of working on that end. But, and then the other thing, what was the other thing? Yeah, I forgot. Oh, it can, is there a way that people can follow along? with you as the expedition is going on? So I'm working with Scott from the Bigfoot mapping project on this idea. So we're going to have a GPS tracker.

Depending on the tracker itself, we're going to try and do a live tracking so people can monitor our progress live as we're hiking this creek. So whether or not that works, if it does, then there should be a link where you can click on and watch our progress live. That's awesome. And then hopefully the tracker doesn't like, you know, go out. And you're like, oh, my goodness, what happened to take? You know, that would be wild.

But whatever. And we're hoping somebody does die because it makes her great footage. We get so many views. Obviously, everyone's coming back alive. That's priority number one. Well, maybe alive, but not in one piece. But I'm curious for a question for each of you. You know, what is your number one goal personally for this expedition?

I want to see the unseen. You know what I mean? Like that's so cool to me. Like, I mean, you take Bigfoot out of the equation. It's still cool. You're just walking up some place that hasn't been seen by anyone in a very, very, very long time, if at all. And, you know, when you're just hiking up somewhere, it always happens right before the whistle.

There's a little voice that says, what if I mess up? What if I'm not ready? I see a whole highlight reel of everything I don't want to happen. Missed shots, turnovers, letting my team down. And for a second, there's doubt. But then I realize I've done enough to be where I'm at. The early mornings, the extra reps, the days I wanted to quit and didn't.

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the heightened level of observation that we're taken into there. So I'm just excited to see a new place. Who knows? We'll just see some awesome waterfall or, you know, ideally it'd be nice to find a nice set of tracks leading out of the canyon right but we'll see who knows what'll who knows what it'll bring who knows that's what i'm looking forward to who knows what i'm looking forward to i think i think for me it's um finding out what makes bluff creek special because it's it's it's taken us a while and it's it's unusual because it's been there right

in front of us right in our faces all this time to say that that, okay, Blue Creek Mountain, Onion Mountain, Fish Lake, Scorpion Creek, Bigfoot Creek, all these places have something in common, and it's Bigfoot and Bluff Creek. And I really want to understand why Bluff Creek is one of the best places to go if you're looking for Bigfoot. And I think by exploring it and getting past that barrier of our, our here, human dwelling and getting out there right in the middle of the creek literally, we might start making observations and have a better understanding of what Bigfoot habitat is.

And that knowledge goes beyond Six Rivers National Forest. Any of you go in the United States or the world looking for undiscovered hominids, you'll have that understanding of what they might need to be alive. and you can get right down to the effective research that every big footer wants to conduct. I love that. Tate, go ahead, man. I'd have to pick a little bit of both from Jonathan and Iran on that one. I would agree.

And then, I don't know, long term, it'd be nice to be in the history books for, you know, Bluff Creek, you know, Patterson Gainwin film site research and be in the history books with these guys because obviously this hike is not doable without a group of people. And I want to do this hike with people I trust and work really well with and what better group of people than Ron and Jonathan and everybody else I mentioned. So, and I think I look at it as like, you know, I've done, you know, this is how far I've come. it's a milestone in my big footing big footing career you could say

so it's pretty cool that it's like all that I've done has accumulated to this one moment who knows this could be the only last big thing I do to be known for and then I become a mediocre researcher like you know don't say names That's hilarious. We love Kep.

That's funny. That's funny. I love lives with tape. Wait. Did you hear? I said Kit Moral. Yeah, I know. Kit Moral is the man.

No, I just wanted to make sure that you heard. He's a big footer of the year for many years in a row now. I don't think anymore. Guys, this has been an awesome interview. I want to make sure that. We don't, you know, before we start wrapping things up, that if there's anything else that you wanted to make sure you talked about regarding this expedition, I want to make sure you have the chance to do it now. If not, I would love to give you the chance to tell people that are watching, and also this will be on the podcast, how they can keep up to date with your Bigfoot research besides this expedition. Kim Morrell.

So I'll take that one. So one thing I was going to say about the expedition, and this kind of ties in together, is even though we won't be able to really share while we're out in the creek, we won't have cell reception or anything like that. I plan on doing a couple of small writings and stuff about observations along the way. And for a long time, I've posted a lot of my initial observations and photographs on my Trailing Giants' Facebook page. So that might be some of the earliest forms of content from after our hike. So it might be beneficial for somebody to follow my Facebook page. That's also where I'm going to end up sharing a lot of my content. I'm coming back from a hiatus.

I had to get some gear updates and line up some best. better work-life balance and stuff. But I plan on pushing some content through YouTube and other media platforms. And a lot of that's going to be shared on that Trailing Giants Facebook page. So that's the best way to stay up to date with my stuff. And as of tonight or tomorrow morning, I'm going to be heading out for a couple of weeks in Colorado. Oh, wow.

We've done some Rocky Mountain Bigfoot. And so I'm like, I'm here and I'm here in Bandit Wine downstairs. and I want to get that gear in the car and get ready to go. It's going to be exciting because I'm doing some interesting stuff out there, Bigfoot-wise, and then also doing a dinosaur dig. That's just a personal interest there. Nice. But yeah, I think Trailing Giants is the best and really only thing that I would plug out there

because everything else is it branches into it. Awesome. Jonathan, go ahead, man. Yeah, no. If you follow Western Bigfoot Exploration on YouTube, I got a couple cool videos coming out before this hike. We're good to do that hike. And, you know, I love telling it just as it is.

I add some cinematic stuff to it, but no fluff, just as it is. And, you know, so it'll be like going on along the hike with us as far as my video. And I just want to... Yeah, man, I just, I'm so excited to, like, do this and show, show this area that hasn't been seen, you know? Awesome. I really can't wait to show how much whiskey I could throw down on this hike. So that's going to be cool. Oh, absolutely.

Oh, we're still, we're, wait, we're still live. You're still live in recording. Yeah. Yeah. You can find me at Tate Hieronymus as spelled right here. on YouTube. I do the series Sasquatcha Search for Sabine.

If you like all of our channels, you know, we all work together, so you'll probably see us in each other's videos a lot. So no matter if you subscribe to any one of us, you'll get all of us. Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's like all these crossovers

happen all the time. Also, you want to make sure that you're subscribed to this channel because they are going to be coming back on, after the expedition to share what happened, all the stories. If anyone didn't make it back, no, I'm just kidding. Everyone's going to make it back. I was going to say, yeah, I can't guarantee you it's all of us.

Well, we'll be able to be the first ones to confirm if somebody didn't make it back. Right. I'm seriously considering maybe not dying, but fading soically into the woods and never returning. Oh, there you go. Yeah, perfect. Perfect. Homer Simpson, right back into the bushes, into the forest. We don't know what happened to Ronnie.

He just disappeared. Well, there we go. It's been a real fun interview. Thanks to all you guys for coming on. And thanks to all in the chat. Make sure that you're subscribed and we'll see you back in a few months for the follow-up interview.

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